Heights Hotline | Ohio’s Worst Drivers, College Advice, and Beard Maintenance

27 Mar 2026 · 20 min · 8 chapters

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A “Heights Hotline” bonus episode of New Heights where Travis and Jason Kelsey answer off-topic questions: which Ohio city has the worst drivers, college visit recommendations for University of Cincinnati, and what products they use to maintain their beards.

Guest backgrounds

No guests appear on mic; callers include “Brandon” (driving question), “Sarah” (UC visitor), and “Leo” (beard products). Hosts are Travis and Jason Kelsey.

Key claims

Dayton has the worst driving in Ohio (28.8 incidents per 1,000 drivers), with Cleveland and Columbus next. Worst drivers are linked to youth, alcohol, congestion, and road conditions. Beard maintenance is mostly trimming and washing with shampoo; beard oil is typically applied by others for TV.

Notable examples

Adriatico’s pizza (on campus), Woody’s dive bar, Steak and Lemonade, Martino’s (sparky wings/steak salad), Kroger on campus, Clifton/Ludlow skyline, and Skyline late-night food.

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Heights Hotline Introduction

1:20 to 1:56

The Kelsey brothers introduce the Heights Hotline segment and its focus.

“I thought you were like hiding your face.”

Ohio's Worst Drivers Discussion

1:56 to 5:00

The brothers discuss the reputation of drivers in Ohio cities.

“Welcome back to this bonus episode of New Heights.”

Analyzing Driving Statistics

5:00 to 7:08

Travis and Jason review statistics on driving incidents in Ohio cities.

“Can we look up where or how many accidents?”

Cleveland Driving Insights

7:08 to 8:11

The Kelsey brothers share personal insights and experiences driving in Cleveland.

“Cleveland is a bigger like metropolitan population.”

College Advice for Cincinnati

8:11 to 10:12

Listeners ask for advice on visiting the University of Cincinnati.

“They're following rules out there, yeah.”

Food Recommendations in Cincinnati

10:12 to 14:01

Travis and Jason recommend popular food spots for college students in Cincinnati.

“I would say if you're going there in the summer or you're going, that means you're probably not 21.”

Campus Food Recommendations

14:01 to 16:53

Discover the best dining spots around the campus and their iconic offerings.

“Martino's, Steak and Lemon, Adriatico's, all three bangers.”

Beard Maintenance Tips

16:54 to 20:02

Learn about the beard care routines of Jason and Travis, including trimming and products.

“Just wondering if y 'all use anything special.”
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0:01Hey, what's up, New Heights listeners? It's Thomas Rhett here. Country music fans and sports fans have so much in common, bringing everybody together for a big night. And that's what my Soundtrack to Life tour is all about. We're going to be playing the hits you know and love, plus brand new songs you hadn't even heard yet. So get your family and friends and come on out for a night to remember how good life is. Tickets are on sale now at LiveNation.com.

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1:09Jason Kelce:Quick and easy so you can focus on what matters, like football. Yeah, how about that? Take the stress out of taxes and look to the experts. Into a TurboTax, now this is taxes. The reason I have a beard is to do less maintenance. I thought you were like hiding your face. Well, that's another perk. Is steak and lemonade still there? Oh my God. That is a deep cut right there, dude. ATVs going all the way through the city and sh**. Youths are not the best drivers. Am I like stereotyping this? You are, but I think you might be right here. That's a joke. We're just having fun here, right? I'm going to go ahead and put Jason's phone number in the comments of this episode.

1:49You can call him directly about all those.

1:56Welcome back to this bonus episode of New Heights. Ladies and gentlemen, it's a wondery show. If you didn't know, we're your hosts. I'm Travis Kelsey. This is my brother, Jason Kelsey. And we want to make sure you guys know, subscribe on YouTube or wherever you get your podcasts. Follow the show on social media at New Heights Show with one S. Jason, tell the people what's coming up on this bonus episode of New Heights.

2:20Jason Kelce:On today's bonus episode, we are going to be checking the Heights Hotline to answer your off-topic, off-season questions. Let's get right into it right now. All righty, Hotline Suggestions. Hey, guys. Ooh, hey. Who do you think has the worst drivers here in Ohio? Do you think it's Cincinnati, Columbus, or Cleveland? And feel free to share any experiences you've had driving. All right. Have a good day. Okay, Brandon, let's do a quick census check on which city has the highest percentage of females. And that... That was just... You're sick. The old Ed Kelsey.

3:07Jason Kelce:Just hammering home stereotypes. All right, we're just kidding, folks. I'm going to go ahead and put Jason's phone number in the comments of this episode. You can call him directly about all those. that's a joke we're just having fun here right i'll be completely honest kylie is a much better driver than me that was a hundred percent just a joke don't be getting your panties in a bunch all right here we go where are we gonna go with heights hotline okay so cleveland columbus or cincinnati um i feel like cleveland's good cleveland's a very good driving town they got you're good you're used to very extreme weather conditions you're used to terrible roads so you You got to be on your piece.

3:46Jason Kelce:Like there's potholes everywhere. They don't even fix the roads in Cleveland. I came to Philly. I'm like, why is there so much construction? That's like, oh, I went back to Cleveland. I'm like, they actually just fixed the roads in Philadelphia. And even in Philly, it's terrible compared to both cities. Cleveland, I mean, I love Cleveland to death. It is. So you got, you kind of like have to be a good driver in Cleveland. Columbus, a lot of youth, a lot of youths. And typically, youths are not the best drivers. They're taking chances. Yeah, the majority of my accidents and dumbass driving happened when I was really younger.

4:25Jason Kelce:Yes, yes. Especially in my college years. And then Cincinnati, you got a bunch of, you're getting closer to that Mason-Dixon line where you're getting these guys.

4:38Jason Kelce:Which tends to be, you're going to have your souped up trucks. They got moonshine in the back. You're going to have your ATVs going all the way through the city and shit. Like, so I'm kind of. That's hilarious. I think it's definitely between Columbus and Cincinnati, but I'm going to say Columbus just because there's just more young people. Yeah, I would say Columbus, yeah. You got young people. You got alcohol all over the place. You got, you know, it's congestion. Yeah, there it is. Two bad combinations right there. Yeah. So I'll go Columbus. Can we look up where or how many accidents? Yeah, is this?

5:19Jason Kelce:Yeah, can we? Let's look this up. Let's look this up. Let's see how close we were. So what I've got in front of me is the actual city in Ohio for worst drivers is Dayton. Yeah, I mean, we got to limit it to Cleveland, Columbus, Cincinnati. Yeah, you guys got limited, but Dayton is number one, followed by Cleveland and Columbus. Dayton is actually the second worst city in the country. pretty sure hang the banner they also invented the traffic light in cleveland ohio that's a random bit of factoid that i do know for some reason what um what are they using to determine the uh worst drives is it percentage per capita is it just overall accidents it's tickets it's duis and uh insurance claims i believe are the three factors put in there yeah but it's like There's a lot of people in the Cleveland metropolitan area.

6:13Jason Kelce:Whatever. So people are just filing for insurance claims? I mean, come on. Let's not go crazy. Some of those are probably legit. And listen, I don't know if you've ever been to Dayton. I have not been to Dayton. Is it nice? A lot of drinking. You're going to do a lot of drinking if you live in Dayton. You know what I mean? There's not much happening. Yeah, just trying to have a good time here. So wait, which one is the worst? Shout out the Flyers, baby. Statistically, Cleveland is the worst? That's what we're saying? amongst those three cleveland out of yeah cleveland what is what is the metric the biggest city it's the biggest city so most of the most people i think it's volume is actually this cleveland's a volume shooter well this is why you need to know the match cleveland's actually the smallest of the three major cities in ohio if you are just factoring in the city limits cleveland has a smaller geographic limit than columbus and cincinnati but if you factor in the metropolitan area of Cleveland.

7:08Jason Kelce:Cleveland is a bigger like metropolitan population. At least it used to be. Columbus is the biggest city in Ohio. It has been for some time. If you are only including the city limits of Columbus. In Cincinnati, Cleveland's third. There's no north side. That's why. Actually... Oh wait, I got you some math here, Jason. I got you some math. Here's according to Fox8.com. Beaver Creek, located east of Dayton was the city with the worst drivers in the state with 28.8 incidents per 1 ,000 drivers. Shout out to Derek Wolf. That is a no-brainer.

7:49The city with the second worst was Delaware per 1 ,000 drivers and then Lakewood, Hamilton, and Dublin.

7:55Jason Kelce:Lakewood. Okay. Hamilton and Dublin. I mean, we're really just looking for Cleveland, and Cincinnati and Columbus. Okay, and the city with the best drivers in Ohio was Mentor, located east of Cleveland. Makes a lot of sense. They're following rules out there, yeah. So the losers here are Dayton. Yeah. All righty. Disciplined football team right there. They're following the rules. The most reported car was Suzuki's. I don't know. What the fuck are y 'all doing in Ohio? They haven't made those in like 20 years. What are you doing? Ohio's a bit behind the times for the most part. I mean, I wouldn't say it's just, you know.

8:36Sounds like an affordable car. And Ram drivers had the worst incident rates among vehicle makes on Ohio roads. Yeah, that's Cincinnati for sure. The more you know, the more you know.

8:48Jason Kelce:I don't know that I saw many Rams in Cleveland growing up. No. Dodge caravans, not Dodge Rams. All righty. Are we doing another one? I don't know. That was... Yeah, let's do a couple more since we got to cut the one that was... Guys, if you're watching this, there was a phone call that was cut that was too dark for the show. And I'll let you guys just play around your mind with what that was. Didn't like it. Sorry. Let's do some UC recommendations. UC recommendations. Let me find that real quick. Hi, guys. My name is Sarah, and I will be attending University of Cincinnati in the fall. Go Cats!

9:24Jason Kelce:I am heading there with my best friend for a college visit. for a few days, and I was wondering what spots recommend I go to while I'm there. Thanks a lot, guys. Go Chiefs. Man, it's so hard because it's changed so much. Yeah, but one thing hasn't changed, and that's Adriatico's. Great point. I thought you were going to say Uncle Woody's, which has. Well, yeah, it kind of has changed. It's changed from the original Adriatico's, but it is now. Still the same pizza. It's delicious. In a nicer establishment, but it's still the same pizza, man. God damn, that shit's good. So you can always go to Adriatico's.

10:00It's on campus. Get some pizza. Get a good feel of the campus. You get to see Clifton, which has a ridiculous amount of shit on it compared to when we were there. And, yeah, get some good food. I would say if you're going there in the summer or you're going, that means you're probably not 21. Not going to recommend any bars. but Woody's is probably the best dive bar that you could hit up there. What do you think, Jason?

10:29Jason Kelce:Did she say how old she was? I missed the front end of that. Did she say? No, I just assumed. I just assumed. She said she's going there in the fall. She sounded like it was like a grad school. She sounded older, right? She didn't sound like an 18-year-old. Am I, like, stereotyping this? No, you are, but I think you might be right here. She definitely, she sounded older, but what she said was, so I just assumed that she was younger. Undergrad? fair enough either way if you're going bars um we were big uncle woody's people it's now owned by a different group like i don't know who owns it now um it's not um lori anymore um lori and john uh i don't is steak and lemonade still there i i kind of would love to go get some steak That was a deep cut right there, dude.

11:17Jason Kelce:Oh, my God. Oh, please, Steak and Lemonade. Please be there. If it's still there. I'm looking it up right now. It has to, bro. That place fucking crushed. Short Vine has changed so much, but like Martino's, Steak and Lemonade. Oh, Martino's. Go get you some sparky wings at Martino's. It's one of the best steak salads, dude. Pittsburgh Steak Salad. They put French fries on it. Very, very good establishment. Good family. good family that owns it too um i i don't for some reason i feel like steak and lemonade isn't there anymore i think dude they've all got pushed out because there's been so much development no it hasn't it is still up and running baby listen we're definitely we're over hyping it we're over hyping it i know we're not but it's delicious everybody's gonna go over there and be like what the fuck did they just said just do but you are going to take one bite out of that chicken fucking board regular steak oh man everything it's got it's got all fried chicken cheese steaks the uh the you they have but the real treat the reason everybody went there is for that they call them lemonades but it's it's basically like kool-aid basically like they have like the traditional lemonade but they have all these different flavors oh dude so good i fucking love this damn place they have these milkshakes where they mix these like flavors of the lemonades in with like the milkshake.

12:44Jason Kelce:Do you remember this, Travis? I mean, it's fucking unreal. It'd be like a swirl going down this milkshake. Of course I remember this shit, dude. I would go and get this shit every goddamn day. It's like a straight up fast track to diabetes, but it is so fucking weird. It's not what a college athlete should be eating, but it is exactly what a college athlete should be eating. It's like, it's just the perfect mixture of fucking deliciousness. Viral fruit cow? That's new fruitcakes i don't remember that do they not have the milkshakes anymore i've never seen those no they i don't know if they yeah there they are dude i used to get the strawberry like they had all these flavors but it wasn't like a standard like strawberry milkshake it like had like a swirl in it it was i don't know whatever the lemonades though oh the slushies crack still crack um can't beat it man so staking lemonade for making it through This is Hidden Gem.

13:43Jason Kelce:There's also a lot of other very good. Kroger's. Kroger's like a goddamn. It's like super center now, dude. The Kroger over there is crazy. Make sure you hit up the Kroger right there on campus. It's real nice now. It's real nice now. Kroger has stepped up their game. You can also get some garage beers while you're at it. Anyways, what's. Martino's, Steak and Lemon, Adriatico's, all three bangers. the Buffalo Wild Wings we would always go to. They had the B-dubs. I'm trying to relate the specific spots. Go ahead, sorry. No, I can't remember what the hall was, the dining hall. Oh, you're talking about Stadium View.

14:20Jason Kelce:Stadium View Dining Hall. No, the one that was up the hill with the Chick-fil-A in it. They had a Chick-fil-A in a dining hall? Yeah. I don't remember that. I mean, it's like the main dining hall for everybody in campus. Oh, you're talking about that was like a food court. That wasn't a dining hall. It wasn't like a cafeteria. Yeah. Where the fuck was that? Oh, it was right there in the middle of the campus. It wasn't in the building that the subway was in. I can't remember the hall. There was another spot that I was thinking of, too. Yeah, you can hit that subway right there in the middle of the campus across the walkways, the cafeteria where you can get Chick-fil-A and stuff.

14:58You just get a good feel of the campus right there in the middle of it by the stadium.

15:02Jason Kelce:I would recommend going down. um what's that skyline called right there i'm trying to remember right on campus it's like right you go down clifton oh my gosh the cliff started with an m started talking about the street but there was like a specific name for that skyline it was the first one ever it's an iconic thing in cincinnati you'll probably hate it to be honest with you like i mean i love skyline but most people not from cincinnati do not like skyline i would say is it the ludlow the ludlow skyline? No, it's what is this little area? It's still Clifton. For sure. Jefferson Ave. It is. I mean, Ludlow is Ludlow.

15:46Jason Kelce:It's Ludlow. That's what it is. The Ludlow skyline, for sure. That's like the first, I believe the first skyline ever. It's like, kind of feels like you're in a diner, like very old school vibe. If you are 21 and you're at the bars, it's a great late hours. It'll definitely taste good at that point. If you're 21. That's right. That's right. That's right. That's right. There's another good spot right down there in that Clifton area, and I'm trying to think of it. What was the – oh, man. We're really being put to the test on our – there's also so many other spots that have popped up now that we're just not even hip to.

16:26Yeah, we're not hip. We're not hip to. This is all pre-2013.

16:32Jason Kelce:We're on the one side of campus forever, so it was always like, hey, it's either McDonald's, Domino's, Martino's, Steak and Lemonade. That was kind of what we subsisted on for three years. And then I got food stamps. That's right. Well, there's our recommendations. Hope you enjoy. Can't go wrong. just make sure you keep your whereabouts well no it's good now it's good now it's completely yeah all right good call all right where are we at here last one i know it's quick i know i know this one's quick we get this one all the time though hi this is leo and i was just wondering what kind of products you guys use for your beards they are so spectacular wow they always It seems so nicely groomed, and you guys look very nice all the time.

17:31Jason Kelce:Just wondering if y 'all use anything special. Jojoba oil, shea butter, the works. What's going on? Did Leo say hubba oil? Something oil. Hobba oil? I've never heard of that. All right. Well, Trav, do you want to go? I don't. I mean, the one thing I do to my beard consistently is I trim. I use the trimmer to like catch all the like the pieces that are like sticking out. Yeah, the loose ends. I do that to kind of keep it a little bit more shaped. And then to make sure I get the mustache line down on top. Love it. Love it. Yeah, I mean. but in terms of like washing it and stuff i'll just wash it with the shampoo i don't i the reason i have a beard is to do less maintenance like i don't have a beard like i didn't you know what i mean i didn't get a beard to be like hey let me tack on more shit to do to my face like the reason i have is just because i'm too lazy to fucking shave every day like i'm not then gonna go do all this other fucking shit like i thought you were like hiding your face you said one time you well that's another perk that's another perk for sure I don't have to see my chin but I think it's more because I don't want to have to do anything like the thought of having to shave every day would drive me fucking crazy yeah dude I'm right there with you I think one of the bets that we do should end up being you have to shave okay well we can do that at a later let me lose a little bit more weight before we do that but I will condone that we gotta wait on Jason to lose weight let me get a little bit more tan well it's not gonna be that much I can do that in like two weeks.

19:19Okay.

19:20Jason Kelce:I will say though, it does look better when I do do stuff to it. And by me, I mean, when there are wonderful hair and makeup people on set or like at the games that will put like beard oil. Oh, do you know? Oh, while you use beard oil, I was wondering why you look so nice on this. I don't. No, you do. If, if they're putting it on you, you use it. No, they use it. I'm a vehicle for them. using it i don't use it i've never i've never put it in but they will and sometimes i mean some of them don't have it but when some of them do have it i'm like it actually looks pretty good that's too funny well there you go we gotta we gotta get that beard oil because your your beard is shining on tv there we go well the problem is i will not put it in because i'm not going to take the time to do it but the people want to know what you're using not using anything on the podcast for that's for damn sure.

20:20Jason Kelce:I'm assuming they're talking about this. And that wraps up another edition of the Heights Hotline. We have some more bonus content for you all in April, so stay tuned to what that might be. Once again, New Heights is a wondery show, if you didn't know. Follow the show on all social media, add New Heights Show with one of us for fun clips throughout the week. I'm sure we'll have just a few from this week's episode. Thanks to our production and crew for always looking out for us and making our job easier. And thank you to the 92 %ers for always tuning in, even on a special edition of Heights Hotline.

20:54See you guys.

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