Julie & Zach Ertz on World Cup and real football & Johnny Knoxville on his Jackass' legacy | EP 196

21:46So it's like, yeah, I'm stoked. Like my heart's pounding out of his excitement.

21:50Jason Kelce:How do you feel about that, Zach? Are we, are you okay with, I mean, they're both fall sports, right? They are fall sports. What's going to happen here? I mean, as you both know, there's so many sports that translate to football. I don't know if football is a transferable skill besides the mindset aspect. So I'm all for trying all these soccer, basketball, baseball, because football will always be there if he wants it. But I'm not pushing him on anything. If you ask him, if you ask him right now, what he wants to play, he's going to say football. And unfortunately he wants to play tight end. So for us, it's just, it's a fun season of life.

22:26Jason Kelce:You can always do club sports and club teams and whatnot. There's ways you can do both these days. And I agree. I feel like peewee football, you don't gain much from doing that. I think you gain more playing a sport like soccer where you develop footwork and coordination and endurance. You do baseball, hand-eye coordination and gymnastics even. My kids do gymnastics. I couldn't do any of that stuff. Definitely not now. All the team sports, you're going to get that camaraderie aspect of it. So, I mean, it's kind of pick your poison. But I hear you guys. At that young age, it's kind of, I don't know, if football is the favorite, it's almost like, yeah, maybe just try some other sports to make football easier.

23:06You know, especially in the tight end world, you're going to get asked to do everything. What does he play in soccer? Chase. He's only like, he'll be four in August. So they just chase. Like, honestly, like the craziest part now is like, oh, this is a new position that we just created for him. I'm just like, I'm an idiot. That's so good. It is funny, though, because he talks about doing like multi-sport, but it's like, it's kind of confusing him because for his like first game, when they go to line up for kickoff, Madden was in a three-point stance to start the kickoff for soccer. Let's go. It's like the funniest video.

23:47You want to talk about intimidation. Yeah, exactly. He was like staring him down. It's the funniest video. We were like, I'm laughing, honestly, the entire like time of the game and, you know, keeping my mouth shut. I cheer really loud, but I'm just like zipped. He's four. So it's pretty funny.

24:01Jason Kelce:Well, this leads in really well to our first kind of topic here. We have a little section called football versus football. We're going to ask you soccer and football questions as the resident experts in our lives at Bull Sports. So let's go first question. Which one is the real football? Ooh, you can go first. Well, I'm obviously going to say soccer. What a gentleman. He just knows he's about to get destroyed. Soccer for sure, because I'm pretty sure soccer was developed way before y 'all started catching the ball. And then you barely use your feet. And sometimes you can go with a game without a kick.

24:44I mean, really, I guess punt counts. But you could go technically without having a kick the entire game. I would agree there. Unfortunately, I would agree because I feel like their game has been around a lot longer than ours. And why did we call it football in the first place? I would love an explanation of why it was called football from the start. But of course I'm going to defend our American football to the death.

25:08Jason Kelce:But at the end of the day, if we go, if we go over to Europe, it's a, I mean, it is a tough argument. We run on our feet, Zach. We, everything starts from the ground up. You know that. Yes, you're right. Thank you. That is what I mean. That's how I need to end the argument and walk away just with that. And it's soccer. They, they wear the long socks over the shin guard. So it looks like they have socks. What? Don't you guys wear socks? You guys wear socks? Okay, Julie, good point. Fair enough. Good point. We have long socks. Julie, have you ever tried to kick a field goal? So my dad actually kicked at LSU.

25:43He was a kicker. So I grew up kind of like he would go and train kids to kick and punt. So I have an awareness of how to do it. But, yeah, I mean, it's very similar mechanics. It's a little different, but, yeah. So what's our farthest field goal? I got to know this. We got to know. We got to, people need to know this. Have we done distance? I think she could probably hit 30 yards. 30 yards. When we were in college, we would do like a PK shootout. And I was in goalie and she was the PK taker. And it was really, it was really hard to play goalie. And dude, it blows my mind how close that PK is, dude.

26:24I know. It is literally, it feels like 10 feet away. You've got a fucking insane that goalies actually stop those at times, man. No doubt.

26:34Jason Kelce:Yeah, they say if you can stop two of them in a PK shootout, you're, like, going to win, usually. Fucking one. One is still good, but two is, like, you're almost guaranteed to win it. And then one in five of the World Cup elimination rounds usually are decided by PKs. It's not even playing the sport. it comes down to like this very niche thing and i don't know i love i selfishly i love it's so electric yeah it's so fucking electric it's so fun do you remember there was a german goalkeeper and he was like the first one that pulled the little note card out of his sock and he was reading it while the guys were coming up and he had his like little scouting report and now they like put it on the water bottle and all that stuff but i and he guessed right every time and I was it still stands out to me no it is crazy like the stat world of sports and how it's like intertwined is like pretty insane like the stuff we looked at before World Cup was insane is it as simple as like hey you if you this goalie if you kick it right you're more likely to score x percent of time or is it more what you do well or is it like hey if the person before you kicked left then if you kick right then if you kick high then kick low i'm probably way that seems more like a mental game that i'm not ready for i'd rather just kick it in that way i'm confusing myself now no i would say it's more the opposite it's more the goalkeeper stats and understanding like players like they go back in the archives and like look at stuff and i mean they have it for for the kickers i think for that like making it way less like crazy um like where you should kick it like in the goals, like where the corners, what the pace is, is better for the keepers, like certain keepers.

28:17But yeah, I feel like it's more goalkeeper look at stats than the actual kicker. How many PKs did you take in your career? Very little. That's a great question. Yeah. They always, they always gave me like, like number eight in the lineup. That just means when it matters most, if it goes into extra PKs, when we need it most. Yeah. I was waiting. I was waiting for my moment so it wasn't that i wasn't ready i just called up what was your side your left side right side right side push it push it nice jason what did you guys have both you you are literally the only couple that has both which trophy is better the world cup or the lombardi

28:56Jason Kelce:this feels ridiculous this is a ridiculous question i don't even like the lombardi it's a terrible trophy i can tell you the looks they're like the world cup look is like very simple and Like, but if you're talking about like, you know, every four years is this opportunity. Like, I don't think there's really a, you know. I'm surprised you didn't go to her world conversation about how we don't play a world. There's no world champion in football because you only play the Americans. We're implied. There's nobody. I mean, we're so good. We're just better than the rest of the world. That's how it works, right?

29:31How does that American mentality face it?

29:36You guys are ridiculous.

29:38Jason Kelce:Who was more excited for the other when the Eagles won the Super Bowl or when the U.S. Women's National Team got the World Cup? Who was more excited, Zach for Julie or Julie for Zach? There's only one right answer here, Zach. Of course. There's only one. There's only one. There's only one for Julie. We were in France for a really long time. Wait, can I have a story for that? Well, can I tell them the story? I mean, we're here at this point. Okay. I would say Zach was I would say Zach was more excited only because of this story so after you win so in the 2019 we were in France it's really hot like super hot and there's no AC there you just need to like know that and I was there forever mind you because I was such a supportive husband continue so we get to sit like they get to sit so close and you get to see your family after you know how in the Super Bowl your family gets to run out you're going to celebrate with them they don't get to go on the field you like walk over to the side by the bleachers and I have this like beautiful photo and I'm like hyperventilating because I'm like laughing but he goes he's like congratulations like i'm so proud of you like like wow what an accomplishment like can we go home now it's so hot can we get back to that american ac he was great and so supportive so i don't say that we were like laughing just because the poor man was just like sweating you guys are big guys like not having ac for two months i mean you're there for like two months if not longer like with training before that's awesome though it was also like record highs in france one of those weeks we were out there record highs i was dying out there i'm a cold room sleeper guys i'm cold room sleeper dude we're all in the same boat there dude i get furious when i get to the room and it won't let me put it below 65 i get i go down and i confront the front desk i paid for this room i need this ac no i'm right there with you i i feel like that's one of the reasons America is such an obese country is because of AC.

31:31Jason Kelce:It makes you comfortable being fat. I'm just being honest. You don't have to deal with the ramifications of it. Oh, man, it's too convenient to sit in the house. If I wanted to be fat anywhere, it's give me the America and all the AC. France, that's a tough one. That's a tough one. That's a tough one. That's why they're thin. They're thin out there in France. This one's very simple. What sport is more physically demanding? I want to say football, but the running is crazy in soccer. I would rather block Haloti Nada than run the amount of miles soccer players are running. I'll take that one hit for two seconds.

32:09Jason Kelce:I don't give a shit. Yeah, but over and over and over. I can't run two miles right now. I mean, it's miserable. You'd be like 150 pounds if you play soccer. You're losing 140. You're losing half your body to go play soccer. I will say though one time I tried to do one of her runnings and it was I tapped out after like rep two it was horrible even now you gotta tell us what it was I think it was just like you run the length of the field and then you walk 18 yards and then you have to run the whole length of the other field and you just like continue to do that for until you pass out essentially pass out or throw up and i passed out after two of them no i i agree i think if you're going to like physicality of like getting tackled by these ginormous man like that would be the only thing that like is so different but i think if you're talking about like taxing i mean you guys like after 20 seconds you're like let's come on in together and like let's talk about some things and then like we'll go again that's too good all right julie question specifically for you why historically has the u.s women's national team been so much more competitive than the men's u.s national team in soccer well i think the investment of like the women's national team i think we started in 85 was our first league And I think before that was before any other country kind of really put money into their federation.

33:45And so that I think the commitment to the players that were before, right, like Michelle Akers, B. Ham, like all these players that really like invested their time and effort to make it what it is today. But yeah, I think the biggest thing is really probably just the investment in the federation to kind of allow a spot for the players to, you know, make it is what it is now. Right. Like we wouldn't have been as successful without those players, like getting paid nothing, Like doing it strictly because they believed in the game and to make it like, you know, a dream for us. Right. To be able to pay and do that for a job.

34:17Also, for the from the men's side, most of the high athlete men in the U.S.

34:21Jason Kelce:play either football or basketball. Would you guys agree with that? Like, I feel like we're not getting as much of our high caliber athletes playing soccer that somebody's not true. Me and Jason say this all the time. The best ticket in American sports is on the court at an NBA game. If we got some basketball guys, like if LeBron James is a goalie, could you imagine those big feet trying to dribble the ball though? That's the only thing. Yeah. I don't know how many, like, even if you were putting goat, like who's the best players to ever play soccer. Like, I don't think they're averaging the size of six, seven, but I, I'm not sure.

35:03I do think people are starting to play it a lot earlier and like committed to it now. And they're making some, you know, there's some really top players out there. But yeah, I mean, I will say like when it comes to American youth sports, you kind of just do one sport a season. Like growing up, it was baseball in the spring. It was football in the fall. It was basketball in the winter. And you watch some of these documentaries from these other countries, some of these soccer greats. It's like they're playing soccer in the fall. They're playing indoor soccer in the winter. They're playing beach soccer in the summer and spring.

35:38And that's all they're doing. Like if you played baseball your whole life, none of your skills are translating to soccer. And so I feel like in America, we're just like we're creating this like good at a lot of different things. And you're developing the athlete, whereas in other countries you're developing soccer specific athletes, because that is the pinnacle in pretty much every other country. As you can tell, we have this conversation all the time. We talk about it all the time. Seriously, though.

36:05Jason Kelce:All right, what's harder, playoff football or World Cup soccer? What's a horrible comparison. Both are really hard. I know, I know. Listen, I don't like the question any more than you do. I don't like it. But I had to ask. I should have just skipped it. I think playoff football is harder at the beginning of the World Cup when it's like the round robin, best of four teams, and the top two advance. Ooh, that's a good one. And then from there, it's probably pretty similar. yeah that's good that's a very good answer yeah you played in a world cup in canada and france what makes a city a good host gosh those were both incredible hosts but i will say um i liked france a little bit better because you're only in one country the size of canada is so big like we would fly we were in like vancouver and we'd go all the way to like ottawa to I'm going to act like I know where everything is like to Toronto like but it's just such a big travel for just sometimes you have a shorter time to recover a bigger time so the thing with France is like we could bus to like the next place or train and so that part was just nice because it just felt like you didn't have to that recovery piece wasn't as big as when we were playing kind of all over um so that's what's interesting because this World Cup for the men's is you know it's attached to Canada attached to Mexico so there's a lot of travel kind of going around so great host cities for sure like just because the cities are incredible and they'll make it that way but as a player I like loved like having it so close because we would bus and it's like you know the the way they decorated the city it was like incredible wouldn't you say like we would go and like you'd go into a bakery and it was like on the window so it like really felt like so like filtered of like this is women's soccer world cup and it's like right here like that's what i love that part well this one is a much easier one i think what is the better chant the eagles e-a-g-l-e-s chant or the i believe that we can win we will win chant for the u.s soccer are you gonna answer that one no you got you started off on the fear okay well the eagles one is a better chance i think because it's so yes what it is and like personal to that i i think i do love it because it's so bad like i love the fan group that like started it um like the american not laws i'm sure started that whole thing so i love it i think we just like kind of threw it out there and we were like yes we have one let's go and so i think 100 we're We're so on board with this, by the way.

38:41Yeah. Yeah, we're trying to find new chants for American soccer team, 100%. But it is fun when you win to cheer. When you go like this and you're singing the song, when you win, it's incredible. It rocks. Yeah.

38:55Jason Kelce:The USA chant is awesome. Trav, do you have any that maybe you or someone you know really well has for USA soccer? Ooh, now we're thinking, Zach, I didn't even go there. we got to get the creative juices going over there i'll ask tay see what she has yeah there you go there we go yeah i just i believe that we will win feels so like yeah why the fuck would you not believe i don't know what it feels very i i get it we're the underdog a lot of times we're trying to exude confidence but i don't know i was over in brazil and uh the brazilians were doing a chant for the men's U.S. World Cup down there.

39:36Jason Kelce:And I was like, ooh, what are they saying? It was Brazil versus Chile. And they're like, Chile, Chile. And I'm like, man, what are they saying? And I asked one of the Brazilians next to me, and they said, we just said we came here to fuck Chile. And I'm like, that's what I'm talking about. I like that one. That's a chant. That's a confident chant. That just exudes confidence. Yeah. And the ramifications, if you lose, are just as strong. ah yeah it's one thing if you're saying that when you got namar doing like cartwheels and backups over people it's like you know we gotta get one of those guys before we start to say we're about to fuck you up i guess we'll ask both of you as we ask all of our guests what is your welcome to football moment i don't know if you remember but my rookie year i missed like the whole off season and so I wasn't able to come till mini camp or till training camp excuse me and seeing Michael Vick like in the first row in team meeting was insane as a guy that grew up watching him and playing with him on video games and then but but on the practice field you the whole line wasn't there but Chip Kelly used to have us do this like five yards apart tackling drill and I was is working.

40:52I didn't really know any better. And Trent Cole and Connor Barwin are on the other side, and it's a five-yard box. And if you had to avoid them, you're kind of viewed in a different light. So it was like 10 minutes of just getting picked up and driven into the ground. And my shoulder hurt. I'm pretty sure I had like a grade two or three AC sprain after that. I missed like a week of practice. Because it was just Trent Cole and Connor just picking me up and throw me to the ground. Cincinnati Bearcats finest, baby. There you go. Getting after you, man. Fuck. That sounds absolutely miserable. I remember my rookie year, we had this special teams drill called the star drill.

41:37And it's essentially the same thing. You would get put between like a five yard box or they set up some cones and you had to, it was like basically simulating the original kickoff where one guy would be like back to you, turn around and have to like try and block a guy and and if you stopped them or like you pushed them out of the the lane you won and vice versa if you got past them you won and i remember i i felt like i was fucking dominating i was like fucking giving them the hezi i was giving like i was running routes i was doing a whole bunch of just nonsense like shit you wouldn't do if you had to go and tackle somebody on kickoff.

42:16And I actually did a spin move on a guy one time and the coach came up to be coach Tome. I love still special teams coach to this day. Came up and he said, hey Kelsey, don't ever fucking do that again. You're never going to do it. You're going to get killed if you do that in the game. Don't ever do that again. And that was your last rep in special teams altogether. Exactly. It's alright. You don't fucking get it. Get out of here, kid. Julie what do you got for us I mean probably I mean not as as similar to that but probably as close as you could get um I play defense so obviously I had to go up against Abby Wambach who's just like known for being in the air so probably just getting like blasted in the face and just like like trying to like suck it up and you're just like they're like oh yeah you good and like I'm some of it I'm like was it it seemed a little excessive like was it just like welcome to the like welcome as being a rookie or like and you're like yeah i'm good and it like hurt for like the rest of my pride i was like i just want to go home but no probably something like that i can't think of anyone where i'm like or like you know unfortunately late for a meeting i know that was a hard one for me when i i fell asleep because we're doing double days and i'm like this young buck fell asleep through a meeting showed in late and i was like not good yeah gotta get that cup of Joe.

43:34Yeah, this is before my coffee obsession happened. That's probably what's what the trauma started my coffee obsession. 100 % it got for me. I was doing the same thing dozing off. I got big red yelling at me to stay up and meetings. I feel like I just fucked like got cut. The way he yelled at me. I was just like, I'm fucking out of here tomorrow. One of the vets came up to me and said, slap me on the arm and say, go get a cup of coffee. No matter how, how much you hate the taste, you're going to appreciate what it does for you. I'm like, all right. And I can't go into a meeting without a cup so you know do you feel julie like center defensive midfield is the equivalent of

44:08Jason Kelce:tight end on a soccer pitch like it feels like you're you kind of got to be good at everything a little bit i'm making this up i'm grasping the source i was like i didn't know that was i didn't know that was like i would say i see it i see it for sure you think you think so i was gonna say more the six more than you think i feel like depending how you play i was gonna say more like quarterback style because that's how they want to start now like they want this six to kind of be but like the quarterback doesn't play defense so i guess that's kind of useless point either but i guess so a little bit of everything you do need to know a little bit so that's probably a better comparison i don't know where that came from but we're gonna get to our next session we gotta ask all right is it true zach is the reason jason showed up to training camp with blonde hair Oh, yeah.

44:53Yes, it is true. What was the bet again? Are we allowed to talk about it? Oh, we're allowed to talk about it.

44:59Jason Kelce:I'm trying to remember right now. I remember. What was it? It was the offseason where it was like looking that I was getting traded well before training camp. That's what it was. Yes. And I essentially hadn't been there all offseason. I had ankle surgery, so I was missing OTAs anyway. And I showed up for training camp with blonde hair. I don't regret much about my time in Philly or this career, But the one thing I do regret is kind of that face is showing up to trade him with blonde hair. I liked it. That's really all that matters, honestly. It definitely looks smooth. It definitely looks smooth.

45:34It definitely looks smooth. I was fucking with it. But it was like so obvious, unfortunately, that my time was probably coming to an end that Jason was like, bro, when are you getting traded? You're going to get traded any day now. If you're still on the team week one, then I'll dye my hair. I don't, I had nothing to lose in this. I don't think I had anything like, oh, if I'm on the team. it was just seeing him every day

45:53Jason Kelce:I just wanted Zach to have something to look forward to if he was still on the team like at least Jason dyed his hair in a match and I will say Jason aka Guy Fieri after that looks phenomenal the Guy Fieri street fighter combo oh look at this guy that has to be our intern Brandon just found the worst possible photo of me. It's imaginal. It looks like you're enjoying the haircut. You look like you're enjoying it. It looks like he hates his life right there. That had to be the third day of pads. That had to be the morning of the third day of pads. Week six padded practice after you just lose on Monday night.

46:37I don't think Kylie liked your hair as much as I like Zach's hair.

46:44Jason Kelce:Well, now that we've talked about Philadelphia, Zach, do you now that you've gone other places Arizona obviously Washington last year like do you have a favorite stop is it Philadelphia please tell me it's Philadelphia make sure it's Philadelphia I mean when you spend nine years somewhere you're gonna have always have a natural affinity for the place um and the time we were there got drafted at 22 spent the first nine years of my career there essentially and yeah I mean when you're there for so long you're always gonna be have this special spot in your heart um unfortunately unlike you two, I wasn't able to play my whole career there, but it's been a blessing to play for Arizona and Washington the past couple years.

47:26But yeah, Philly will always be special. When you talk about the fight song, even when you're on the other sideline, when I was in Washington the past few years, it's still like subtly in the back of my mind, go singing it as I'm over there watching it. So yeah, it will always have a special place in our heart for sure.

47:43Jason Kelce:Zach, you have the most receptions of any Philadelphia Eagle ever to play. You have multiple fourth down conversions that led to the first Super Bowl ever in Eagles history. My only claim to fame is that I had a lot of stars. And they were just like, hey, he's out there. He's out there again. He keeps doing it. He's doing the thing again. Right? You're forever an Eagle. Like, dude, it was. Yeah. Anyways, I still. It was such a fun time having you in Philadelphia. I know you're still doing your thing. So we can't reminisce too much. You're still going to be someplace this year. But anyways. Yeah.

48:16Jason Kelce:Just wanted to go down memory lane there for a second. What's your favorite memory from being a Philadelphia Eagle? Besides the Super Bowl. I mean, this is, yeah, the parade was obviously special. I think the thing I look back on fondest is like our core group of guys that we had together for a long period of time with you, Lane, BG, Fletch, myself. Like it wasn't easy all the time for any of us. Like there were times where like we would get killed in the media or whatever it was. And it's like, I always knew you four always had my back regardless of what we were going to. And I hope you guys felt the same about me.

48:54Jason Kelce:Yep. And it is a little emotional talking about it. I don't know why. But just like going through that, I would say just being around the guys, you know, no one, no one's going to remember about how many yards or catches or starts we had. But I do remember the day-to-day grinding in the stories of you kicking over trash cans because you didn't like the way a coach was treating someone else or laying hiding your helmet. Those are the things I remember about the day-to-day. I don't remember in week 11 how many catches or yards or if we won or not. But I do remember those sorts of things the most.

49:26Those are my favorite stories to hear because Jason, that was Jason all day and every day growing up as a kid. and some of the teams we got to play on, I get to cherish some of those memories too. But a good Jason blow up always does the team well somehow. Somehow it's just like, all right, he's getting fired up. Let's fucking get this thing going, baby.

49:47Jason Kelce:I still owe the Cleveland Heights hockey program a foosball table. That wasn't anybody's fault but yours. Yeah, I know. If we really want to go down memory lane, And that story of kicking over a trash can is like level one out of a hundred stories. That is the lowest on the totem pole. But we're not going to do that. This is a family friendly program. He'll give it for a roast. If there's ever a day to roast Jason, just bring him alive. That's right. Oh man. A lot of, a lot of material for my teammates. So Zach was just talking about what it was like being a former Philadelphia Eagle, thinking about the teammates and you know, the, the, the memories there.

50:29Jason Kelce:Is the same thing with you and the women's national team? Oh, yeah. I think when you're just, when you step away from something, you don't realize how special it is just because, yeah, like when you're in, you're so soul focused, right? Like whatever the task is at hand of like, you know, I have to be the best player to do this. I have to, so you're on all the time that you kind of forget to just like really understand, right? Like how cool this is. And I think stepping away from it and being retired for a couple of years, you're like, whoa, like what a special time. And every time now I see somebody or like see a teammate from the past, it's like instant connection because just nobody else understands but that locker room.

51:03And I think that's the coolest part is like, regardless of everything, it's like, wow, those like you've gone through something. And I think that's why I also just love sports so much is like the people that come in your life and, you know, that support you, love you, teach you everything. So, yeah, I feel the same way. And I think even when you, my favorite thing is like, when you get back together, like when you guys all got back together, like recently and like all the Eagles guys together, it's like, you can see the joy. Yes. And like, it exudes, like you see it because it's just like an instant connection.

51:36You go back right where it was before, like you left. And it's the same thing. I got to see a couple of teammates this past week. And I'm just like, man, like, so, and it's just funny, right? You have those stories and like, nobody else can really like understand that. And it's like the only time you're like you, right? Like the full you. Now I like, you know, have to mingle with other people like Zach's or not Zach's Madden's like classmates and stuff. But it's like nobody knows those stories, right? Like with like their. So I love it. That's so cool. That's awesome. Zach, when you got drafted to Philly, did any part of you feel bad that it was over me?

52:12There's no chance. They stole an opportunity for me to play with my brother. I think the better question is how long did it take you to get over me? He's still not over it.

52:24Jason Kelce:He's never to this day. He plays a Pat Mahomes. He's still not over. Absolutely ridiculous. Absolutely ridiculous. Chip Kelly. I get it. I get it. He smoked you in the pack 12 for years. I didn't know at the time, like Jason was on the team already. I didn't really know the dynamic of that. But over the years, there's definitely been like, Jason, you know, Zach, Travis was doing this. Maybe you should try that. And Jason trying to just let me know how amazing you were doing every game, even though obviously I already knew as well. Stop it. Stop it. Oh, yeah. I wouldn't say I apologize, but it's not too late, Jason.

53:08You could come out of retirement. I know Creed Humphrey still got it. Maybe you could go and create some water or something.

53:16Jason Kelce:that's right that's right too funny zach do you have a mount rushmore tight ends that's a great question obviously um for me i think jason witten is on there just because he was the guy that like i always watch and someone i modeled my game after i would say trav would be on there um obviously as a 2013 class member phenomenal player um i would say gronk obviously um probably the most dominant complete time.

53:46You can't put yourself on.

53:48Jason Kelce:Travis put himself on. You are very welcome to put yourself on. He loves telling everybody that, doesn't he? And I'm sure I'm going to forget someone, but I mean, Tony Gonzalez has like every tight end record ever. So I don't know how you could say that he's not on there as well. TG. So I would say those four are probably my personal favorites. Julie, you got to give us yours. Mount Rushmore women's soccer. U.S. women's soccer. Let's just say Mount Rushmore of women's soccer outside of the greatest era of women's soccer. I'm terrible at this. So pre-2012. Pre-2012. Okay. Pre-2012. Okay, so you have Michelle Akers, Mia Hamm.

54:30You have, I mean, Julie Fowdy is one of my absolute favorite. Who am I missing? Put her on then. She's on there. Christine Lilly, that's four. Okay, there you go. that was just my first one that came to my mind so there it is boom that i didn't play with so now people are going to be like how dare you not say this person very clear yes all right well it's all right at least you didn't put yourself up there yeah that's great well congratulations

54:58Jason Kelce:to you guys awesome thanks for coming on we really appreciate it it's awesome talking to you guys yeah appreciate the stories appreciate the time zach you already know how much love i got for your brother there's been so much respect throughout the years um and you already know still still doing it for the class of 2013 um not not a lot of us still doing it julie being able to see you and your career from afar you're literally one of the best ever do it appreciate you guys jumping on having some fun with us and uh listening to us make up some kind of nonsense true like we're bringing it back home bringing it back home at the end of the day no no we We appreciate you guys, man.

55:36Jason Kelce:Yeah, this is funny. This is a great time. All right. Thank you to Zach and Julie Erd so much for coming on the pod. They're the best, man. They really are. I mean, I loved them when they were in Philadelphia. So happy to see that they're both still killing it. You know, brand new twins out there. They're so down to earth. You know, they're going to be just the absolute best parents. And those kids are going to be awesome. But they're also going to be fucking hell ass. They're going to be really good at whatever sport they end up picking. It sounds like Zach is really hoping for football and Julie is really hoping for soccer.

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58:02All right, now we get to get to a little bit of this jackassness. That's right. This conversation is brought to you by Mentos Gum. Say yes to fresh and you're going to enjoy this Johnny Knoxville interview.

58:16Jason Kelce:Our guest today is a writer, actor, and bull enthusiast from Knoxville, Tennessee. You know him from Walking Tall, Dukes of Hazzard, The Ringer, Mad Grandpa, and the new host of Fear Factor, but you also know him and best as one of the creators and stars of the hit show movie series, Jackass. 92 % is please welcome Johnny Knoxville. Johnny. Let's go. Jason coming in hot. That's right. That's right. I had to do it right. Johnny, do you have any idea how much you shaped our entire childhood and like the entire ethos of the 2000s? Dude, it's unbelievable. What is it like looking back for you? Please apologize to your mom for me.

59:03Who was great on Traders, by the way. She was. Oh, nice. Thank you. Yes. Thank you. Yeah, she didn't last long, but she was a fan favorite. Yes. She was into it. She was into it, though.

59:13Jason Kelce:What is it like, Johnny, like talking to people about how much the show inspired them, like what it meant to them? Like you had people glued to MTV, like ready for the next. It was a fucking lifestyle. It still is. but it's i promise you i remember immediately going to the grocery store and jumping in a shopping cart and getting tossed out of that thing yeah it's wild because we didn't even think the show was going to get on television and nor did we think anyone was going to watch so we were constantly surprised along the way and that it means something to people is just it blows us away because it's something we created with our friends you know it's very it's very odd it's it's a very intimate thing to us but it's kind of everyone's now was the original like pitch to mtv like how did it how did how if you didn't think it was going to get on tv how did you like get it uh up and running like how did that uh kind of unfold um i was writing for different magazines and i was trying to pitch this idea to test self-defense equipment on myself like stun gun taser gun pepper spray and then i was going to shoot myself well i did shoot myself with the in the yes you did with the bulletproof vest and a lot of people wanted the article but they didn't want they wanted to treat it as a negative pickup like okay give it send it to us when you're done but i need i was broke i needed someone to help me buy the uh taser gun stun gun pepper spray uh so jeff tremaine who became the director of jackass he was the editor of a skateboarding magazine he goes i'll give you the money and also why don't you film it while you when you do it and uh that's kind of how it all began it started in skateboard videos yeah this is epic man and then we just took some of the things i did in skateboard videos along with some of the stuff bam was doing on the east coast and made like a 10 minute tape and gave it to uh different agents because jeff and i jeff tremaine the director went to high school with spike jones so spike was like a big video director and directing his first film so you took two guys who knew nothing but they knew spike jones so everyone thought Suddenly we knew something.

1:01:41We knew shit. You know, we just knew Spike. So that's kind of how we got an agent and an attorney and people to pay attention because we knew Spike.

1:01:51Jason Kelce:Gotcha. Gotcha. Well, Jackass, best and last. How do you feel about it? We loved it. We both saw it. Thank you for giving us the little premiere to check it out before this. Some of the best skits. I mean, is that the gist of it? It's like you guys are compiling all of your favorite ones. How did you get to the, I don't even know if skits is the right word, but the best versions. Skits, bits, whatever you want to call them. It's like half new footage and half of our favorite bits that we've ever filmed. And Spike Jonze directed a new open and a new close. And we just wanted to do it one more time for us and for the fans.

1:02:34And so that's how it all came together, really. it's brilliant the the opening is one of my favorite opens of all time man you get and there's and there's a bit of a new cast right yeah we have uh our newest and and oddly enough last cast member ever is a humanoid robot named 1w larry and let me tell you he's not the smartest

1:02:56Jason Kelce:robot you ever met surprisingly good dexterity for a robot i was very surprised i'm not he has two different sets of hands right he has two different sets of hands the first set a hand or tiny little bitty fingers tiny but for the ones we did a little bit called the robot rectal exam he puts on these big steel rectangular fingers with a lot of right angles and steve-o really took one for the team how does that work how does how does steve-o he's got to bend over but does he raise his hand for that like how does it go to steve or do you guys just know are you picking out of a hat like who's choosing steve-o jeff and i will sometimes people will raise their hands for things sometimes the people will be written specifically for them but for that when we we just kind of landed on steve-o and jeff went and talked to him he's like yeah dude because steve-o from the first movie refused to put the toy car up his butt because his dad was upset over it.

1:04:03And I think that really got under his skin. So now he's putting everything up his butt.

1:04:08Jason Kelce:So, I mean, I'm serious. Just to really stick it to him. Yeah, it's crazy. Yeah, that was fun. And Adam Ray, the comedian, does the voice of the robot. And he's so funny. Shut up, Adam, baby. Yeah. Adam's super talented. He kills it. Yeah, no, you guys did a great job with the robot. And like Trav said, the intro, very jackass intro, like on another level. I mean, I don't want to give away too much. I don't know what we can't give away. But if you love the jackass intros, you're going to love the intro for this movie. I will say being older now and watching it, I don't know how you feel, Johnny.

1:04:43Jason Kelce:I feel more of like a sense of when I was younger, just laugh out loud. No care in the world for what's happening to this guy. Now that I'm older, I'm kind of like, oh, man, why is he doing that? I feel a sense of like there's ramifications for these decisions. When I was drunk, I didn't think about that one bit. Well, the culture has changed so much, you know, just there's so much more information on like concussions and this and that. And it does make you think like, oh, man, I should have went to college, but I didn't. So I did what I had to do to support my family. But I mean, I would honestly, I would still be doing all the stuff I did before had it not been for the last concussion at the end of Jackass forever.

1:05:34It kind of sent me offline for six months. And after that, the doctor said, you're done. And I talked to my kids and wife and I said, look, I'm I'm I'm done. So but had that not happened, I probably still would have been doing it. And I think ultimately it worked out for the best because, you know, you only got you only get so many chances, I believe.

1:05:59Jason Kelce:No doubt. No doubt. But I'm good now. And now we're talking about robot rectal exams. That's right. That's right. We can move on from that. It is just sorry. I don't want to. It is just crazy how sometimes those things like did you have a lot of concussions? Oh, I know. Travis had a couple of documented. I've been knocked out of a few games. yeah right because you're like running that you're like in the in the heat of it on the line i can get blind i can get blindsided a little bit uh different than jason can um yeah and having the having the ball could put you in some awkward positions but i've been fortunate that uh that i've only had a few and um yeah you ever blindside jason when he gets out of his truck god damn it i wish man i wish hi my name's travis kelsey and this is the blind side well you do have one of the best football uh jackass moments of all time with jared allen what was that like oh man he can hit yeah he can and he's a nice guy but so before he was really having trouble like he was feeling bad about what he was about to do and tremaine good man yeah and Tremaine, who's very sympathetic, goes, your job is to murder Knoxville's face.

1:07:15And then he saw that we wanted him to go full speed, and then he got into it, thank goodness. It's like when I fought Butterbean in the swap meet. He showed up that morning. I'm like, Butterbean, I need you to go full speed today. He goes, Johnny, I cannot do that. I'm like, I need you to go full speed. He goes, you don't gotta beg me. I said, oh, shit.

1:07:39but it's not funny unless you go full speed you know oh no you gotta go full send you can tell if it's not full speed and it's not really it's not real do you have a which sport was the

1:07:49Jason Kelce:the hardest hitter the one that was the most brutal of all the like sports specific ones you've done well i think my career as a bullfighter has taken the most punishment jason is this is this where your like love for like running with the bulls started yeah no i don't know i i i don't know i just i i think when we we had a farm that we would go to in west virginia and you see animals for the first time and you see a horse and you see a cow and it's like jarring for how large those creatures are yeah and uh and bull riding watching it is just one of the most insane things you can watch so obviously seeing you go and do things that no sane human being would decide to go do like how do you get that in the back of your head like i would watch the cowboy poker stuff on youtube and think that is insane yeah you would just be out there by yourself like right taking full-on shots so what where did where did your affinity of bulls come from i love bulls they absolutely hate you and really and they hate movement they don't care about colors or anything like that if something's moving they want to make it stop and that's all we needed you know it's like the perfect perfect thing animal to shoot with because you're going going to get footage and i think a lot of my love for them comes from like all the great footage we've gotten i know and like what was going to happen to me was kind of uh

1:09:29inconsequential really i was just wanting the footage so uh yeah they're wonderful animals they're so smart too you can't like fake the same way twice with the bull because if you go left that second time he's going to be sitting there waiting on you oh no yeah oh yeah oh my gosh man he had to learn the hard way i know a lot about bulls and i kind of learned on the job they're amazing so you're going to run with the bulls is that what is that

1:10:00Jason Kelce:the idea it's that is a life ambition of mine there's been a bunch of guys tweeting at me drinking beers they won't stop drinking beers until i agree to run the bulls with them i see guys i just want to let you know i see your tweets i really want to go it's just trying to figure out the time that works out um it looks like a just so much fucking fun i think you'll get some footage you got to be careful though because those spanish bulls they don't blunt their horns they got swords sticking out of their head oh yeah you so i have to go some kevlar yeah The major arteries and stuff. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

1:10:41You got to protect that gym dog too. That's the main thing to protect.

1:10:47Jason Kelce:Oh, man. He's already got four girls. He's good. Yeah. Save you on a vasectomy. That's right. We'll save me a procedure. So out of all the movies, do you have like a favorite one that you guys have done? or like is it uh is it always just the the the one coming out is is the focus and is the favorite but um wow each of them are different to me you know the first one is like uh it's almost innocent uh compared to what it became uh the number two was our most unhinged one um it was everyone was just on their worst behavior at that time. And I got super obsessed and wouldn't stop shooting. Even I was on weekends.

1:11:36I was, I had a cameraman following me around. I was running into street signs and trying to jump a parking meter, just whatever. I was literally running into stop signs and they had an intervention to get me to stop shooting because I wouldn't quit. And, um, and yeah i don't know each of them special and uh but i think maybe number two is possibly the cast's favorite um of course uh we we love the one we have coming out but um it was just a lot of and it was the the behavior got worse when the cameras were off just a rowdy bunch did you always feel like you had to one-up each other was that kind of like the the running bit uh amongst everyone so i didn't want to do uh uh yeah the answer is yes but it it comes out of a place of competition i didn't want to do a second movie because i thought how would we top the first and that got in my head to the point where I was like, we're done.

1:12:51But Tremaine, the director, goes, we don't have to top it. We just have to be funny. That made me relax. And then I felt like I got past the block. But yeah, if someone gets a great bit, the other guys are like, I need a better bit, which is great for me because I produced this turkey too.

1:13:18Jason Kelce:how much stuff ends up making it inverse not me like how many bits are you guys doing how do you decide what makes it into the movie is that all is it strictly your decision or is this you and tremaine's is this well tremaine spike and i will make those decisions and we always overshoot because you never know what's going to work you'll take a high concept idea which you think this is going to be gold and it doesn't turn out at all then you'll take another idea a non-idea somebody go get a tube of super glue and bring it back to set and you'll get an amazing bit just with that because it just it just depends um so and sometimes you'll have bits that are similar in the same movie and you're like well we can't use both of those or we'll have too much gross stuff or too much blunt force trauma or too much of this so we kind of spread it all out i gotta talk to you about one of your most iconic bits uh did you think that bad grandpa would turn into what it is oh my god talking about anxiety i uh we we we pitched two movies to the uh studio that day one bad grandpa and another it's a karate film with willie nelson and we wanted them to not pick bad grandpa it was with uh the broken lizard guys and willie nelson we wanted to do that film and then they picked bad grandpa and you've never seen three guys walk out of a studio who just got a movie greenlit more depressed because it's going to be hard right because the whole movie's predicated on reactions and it's like what if we get nothing i'm gonna have we'll have to turn this into a jackass film and then it had a story but we figured it out and um uh you know i had to sit through makeup like three hours each day and i was bummed about that but after the first day of shooting we got good stuff didn't make the film but we got good stuff and i used the time in the makeup chair to prepare for the day and and again all my anxiety went away after that and i was like we got this so bad grandpa oh man that was that was uh that was fun my it was my dad's favorite thing we ever did you know yeah yeah yeah my old man loved bad grandpa irving's a real uh he's a dirty old man did you get any inspiration maybe from your dad oh yeah my dad was kind of like there's a reason i became what i did um because my dad would uh he would prank his friends all the time you know with uh got it making he had a tire company and he would make his employees x-lax milkshakes or he would send them letters from the health department saying they contracted a venereal disease and it would be on rubber stamped vd clinic on the letter signed dr harlan c titmore and people would go to the health department with this letter or the wives would meet the husband the wives and the wife's mom would meet the husband when he got home from work that day It was a joke letter, right?

1:16:56But the wives would be upset. One guy pulled a gun on him for it. And he would also stage gun fights at his Christmas party. At a Christmas party. Yeah, he would have two guys get in a fight. He's like, okay, now you guys are going to get in a fight. And then you're going to start pull out your guns and start shooting. And then everyone runs out into the street. so the next year there's two new guys he goes hey guys so you guys are going to start fighting and you're going to pull out your guns and start firing at each other and it'll scare everyone you know out of the party so they did what dad told them to do and they pulled out their blank guns obviously and start firing each other but dad had given everyone else in the party blank guns so they fired at those two dudes and those two dudes ran off oh my god yeah oh

1:17:47Jason Kelce:This all adds up. This all adds up. Does your dad have a, if bad grandpa was his favorite bit, what was your dad's least favorite? He didn't like when I did stunts. My family didn't like to watch me do stunts because of the, you know, because, you know.

1:18:09I go night-night sometimes.

1:18:11Jason Kelce:We're going to do a quick round of jackass superlatives. Oh, shit. Yeah. that will be quick because there's probably two all right all right worst idea worst idea oh the for a special we owe to mtv we owed three specials usually when we're promoting and i had an idea to do uh for the first movie a town hall where everyone could ask all the guys questions because we were in the news a lot for copycats and everything and not only did all the guys show up wasted me too everyone like i supplied the booze most of the pills and it was just a shit show like the guys were answering the worst questions possible to whatever they the town asked Kurt Loder moderated it and at one point Dave England who's wasted keeps jumping off the stage and we're like Dave we stopped three times Dave you got to stop jumping off the stage because you're getting close to people you cannot do that okay okay 30 seconds later he jumps off the stage bumps the podium and the podium bumps into a lady and she falls back on her butt.

1:19:34She was fine, but it was horrible. What did we tell you? Anyway, long story short, our first movie cost$6 million. That lady sued MTV for$7 million and got her money.

1:19:51Jason Kelce:Oh my gosh. Yeah. So that was a pretty bad idea. Yeah, yeah. It was like more of a series of bad ideas.

1:20:03How can I make this worse? Who wants some pain pills? What do you think your proudest moment on Jackass was? That I did this with my friends. I created something with my friends. And we've been through so much together. And that's that's my I think that's my most proud moment that in making history with the robot rectal exam. You know, yeah, yes. Get us for everybody. Jason, I'm just spitball in here. I have the robot from the movie. And what do you think? Hello, my name is Jason Kelsey. And this is the robot rectal exam. Part do.

1:20:51Jason Kelce:what do you think jay i still haven't had a human rectal exam i need to go oh my goodness well i mean then it's a no-brainer right travis yeah you don't know what you don't know all righty moving on do you have a skit that didn't hurt as bad as you think you thought going into it uh you know i'm kind of somewhere else when all that's happening um yeah usually afterwards uh it'll hurt um you know what hurts like because sometimes you just like a bull runs you over or butterbean knocks you out you're just you're snoozing so but i tell you what sucks is pepper spray it just oh yeah it's the ad for 20 minutes it's you it's the worst feeling and then you get home later that night you shower and it just starts up again re-ups yeah yeah so yeah I've had a little taste of that.

1:21:50Yeah, it sucks. I didn't sign up for it, though. What about a skit that you couldn't believe they let you do? I think when Dunn stuck the little toy car up his ass in the first movie. We're all real proud of that one. Getting those x-rays back? Oh, my God. that lady who first looks at the x-ray, that look on her face, and that doctor was, you couldn't cast a doctor that was better than that dude.

1:22:30I don't remember eating this. Oh, I don't think you ate that. Well, how do you think it got that? Maybe you stuck it up your ass.

1:22:42Oh, my God. That guy was amazing.

1:22:49Oh my gosh. Is there a stunt you just, you never got to do that you always wanted to? Well, there's a, we have a list of like a few hundred pages long of unshot ideas, but I think the two of the ones at the top, I always wanted to get a jackass flag on the moon. I'm still trying. and and dave england who uh the aforementioned dave england who cost uh viacom seven million dollars only has one nut and we always wanted to get him like a new nut and we decided we want to

1:23:31Jason Kelce:get him a new nut that lights up and and we did and for 15 years we've been trying to do it and the last second the lawyers always kill it and i can show you i can maybe show you oh it's off but my our special effects makeup guy who does the makeup for bad grandpa he can build anything and he made a nut that for dave and because we were that close this time and put like a battery in that thing or what yeah let me see if i can turn my phone on just so you can see how fucking bright dave was going to be on fire that one i'm still upset over oh that's that would have been one of my favorites i already know yeah yeah yeah do you have a knoxville quote you hear all the time which which one is the one that you get thrown at you the most um probably is is uh it's either get out of my bar or is butterbean okay

1:24:43Jason Kelce:yeah my personal favorite i've got bursitis is one of my favorites that is that that fucking golf i didn't even know what that was and now i have it i actually have it so i got i got what i deserve it comes full circle yeah i didn't say i got chlamydia you know but because it circle in your mind what's the greatest stunt of all time oh um like you mean stunt or prank yes yeah my bad yeah yeah i think uh the the high five was pretty great the silence of the slams from jackass forever when we turned out the lights and started tormenting the guys and another bit from the end of jackass number two which didn't age so well was the terror taxi bit when aaron puts on the uh dynamite vest and you know um yeah we didn't put that one in because it's like maybe I didn't eat so well.

1:25:49Yeah. I don't know if you can see but can you see? Yes. This is going to be the nut. Wait, he's going to put it under. This is what it would look like in someone's nut. He's getting ready to turn it on. Stick with me. Okay, that's

1:26:12Jason Kelce:the nut sack. Oh!

1:26:20Dave would have freaked the fuck out yeah it's tough like we couldn't do it and I still it bugs me so bad the fact Dave would have been down with that is hilarious I mean it's not over yet

1:26:42Jason Kelce:I mean it's still there You know what? Who knows? I may need three nuts myself. All right. We're going to do this. We got to ask section. Jackass is officially 25 years old. What advice do you have for parents who might have been taking their kids to see this for the first time? Well, I guess they'll be 18, 17. Well, you know what? I guess I hope they like butthole because there's a lot of butthole in this movie. In the last movie, it was all about penis. This one's more butthole. So just have a good conversation with your kids that it's okay. We just be accepting of the human body. All shapes and sizes.

1:27:33Who cares? What's almost as iconic as your intro and the sound is just the warning page. Did you have to like have a legal team do this or was this kind of just like, yeah, the warning sign has to be there. So I'll just go ahead and mock this thing up myself. Yeah. The network did say we got to do something because we were, you know, really kind of going for it. And so so, yeah, but yeah, it's become such a part of the show. And I think it's become a part of a lot of other shows too. And today or tomorrow, I'm taking a crack. I'm like, you know, we do the jackass comes out in different countries.

1:28:16I'm going to try to do the warning in different languages. And just my dumb hillbilly ass trying to do the warning in French is, you know, you know how good that accent's going to be.

1:28:30Jason Kelce:Yeah. I'm notorious for failing French, man. That language is rough. Yeah. How many pairs of testicles has Jackass franchise ruined? Oh, my God. Testicles, marriages. We've ruined about everything. Would you ever not laugh at someone getting hit in the nuts? It's reflexive. You have no control. I have no control over it. Or someone falling down. you know i just like if they're close to me i'll laugh and then help them up it's just i can't help it it's the best i mean do you guys can you guys handle it if can you guys not laugh if someone gets hit if your friend gets hit in the nuts we we went up so i'll give you this johnny i i climbed mount kilimanjaro and we're coming down the mountain and my one buddy bo allen is just sitting in the rocks like pouting his sherpa has left him and he's just like really it's taking its toll the altitude at this point i'm laughing my ass off at that i get to the bottom of the hill bo finally gets to the bottom of this like part of the mountain and he proceeds to vomit everywhere and i proceed to laugh uncontrollably at my friend vomiting and somebody else looks at me This is when I knew I was an asshole.

1:29:56Jason Kelce:Somebody looks at me like he could be like, he could be really messed up. And I'm like, yeah. Oh, I didn't even think about that. I just thought this was hilarious. You're right. Let me help him up. Yeah. No, it is reflexive for sure. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, you can't, you can't help. I just, what happened between Bo and his Sherpa? Why did it end so badly? He just sat down and the Sherpa kept telling him like, Hey, come on, let's go. Like, he's like, basically like, why are you taking so long? You need to get your fat ass down this mountain. And Bo's just sitting in the rocks pouting like a, I mean, it's a 300 pound nose guard.

1:30:32Jason Kelce:Who's just sitting in the rocks, like a toddler. Bo is being a drama queen. Yes. Essentially is what happened. Yeah. Yep. Yep. So yeah, no, that is, I think you're right. I think it's completely hilarious. Anytime somebody gets to it in the balls, you, you spawned an entire generation of just men ball tapping each other. Like that was just the thing to do. we'd be running out to practice go for a high five and when the guy put his hand up you'd slap him on the balls and that was just a thing to do yeah you go high do the high low it's just well i was programmed to do that by my father and i had older sisters who were eight and ten years older so from like the age of three and four i was programmed to just just nail people in the nuts i was like their little robot so it's their fault do you have a welcome to hollywood moment welcome to hollywood moment um well i i remember auditioning for this thing when i got to hollywood for i was like 21 and after the audition you know they give you feedback and the casting director is like you ever think about going into construction and I was like oh shit that's not what you want to hear and then so about six months later I'm looking for a job and I do in fact apply for a construction job and got denied because I had no experience so i'm like now what am i going to do i can't act i can't do construction

1:32:20holy cow that's great welcome to hollywood baby that's right welcome to hollywood hard to hard

1:32:26Jason Kelce:to make it you gotta find your niche you gotta find it all right well with this last film coming out have you thought and reflected at all on you know what jackass has meant culturally and like how things have shifted since i mean you guys have been doing it for 25 years how much has changed like how much has changed over those 25 years the internet social media like all these things and i don't know it just feels like that was kind of a launching off moment where a lot of things shifted people started recording themselves more things started going on the internet yeah i honestly i don't like i appreciate obviously for a man with my limited education how this is all worked out um but as far as what and and that it means something to people means the world to me but what it means culturally i i don't spend a lot of time on that because I have no control over that.

1:33:28You know, it's out there. So I can only focus on what I do. I'm glad that it means so much, but I can't spend too much time thinking about the other part of it.

1:33:41Jason Kelce:Makes complete sense to me. Makes complete sense. Makes something really fun with a bunch of buddies. Do it for 25 years. Other people like it and that's enough. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And you know, you get paid. And that's good. Of course. You make a good, honest, hard-working living. There you go. Better than construction? Yeah. Well, I'm unqualified, so I can't answer.

1:34:12You would never. You'd be hard-pressed to meet a man who's less mechanically inclined than I am.

1:34:20well jackass has meant so much to not only our childhood and our like group friend group growing up man we can't fucking thank you enough for the memories the the all the fucking countless laughs that are still fucking going on today as i thank you as i watch this new movie best and last jackass best and last ladies and gentlemen in theaters june 26 you're not gonna want to miss this one Johnny Knoxville, man. Thank you so much for coming on the show, dog. Thank you, fellas. I really appreciate it.

1:34:51Jason Kelce:Johnny, you're the man, brother. Thank you. All righty. Thank you to Johnny Knoxville. Dude, what a fucking legend. What an absolute legend. It's just so fucking cool. We get to actually have conversations and ask him about the beginning of it and how it all came about and where it's at now. And I bet you it just keeps going. I mean, I understand that it might be the last one that Johnny does, and it might change the name or whatever, but they got some new faces and some people that could really carry the torch, man. Yeah, I'm sure they do. I do think that Johnny is a unique figure. It's too good.

1:35:27It's too good.

1:35:28Jason Kelce:Yeah, but I think Johnny's a unique figure. Where do you find a guy? I hear you. I mean, he was just born to do this. Yeah, you're right. Right from the opening scene of the movie when he shoots himself in the fucking chest with a loaded gun. i mean he's a he's a maniac but he's like lovable and like gregarious and just the best you can tell like everybody has brought so much to that universe and that world but you know knoxville is just such a freaking unique figure that really kept that thing together for so long oh yeah he is shout Shout out to these guys and shout out to Johnny for perhaps their last jackass, the best and last.

1:36:13Jason Kelce:Make sure you check that out. Once again, that conversation was brought to you by Mentos Gum. All right, that wraps up another episode of New Heights. Thank you to Zach and Julie Ertz and Johnny Knoxville. Make sure you check out Julie's new pod with Kaylia Watt, style of play, wherever you get your podcasts. And go see Jackass, best and last, in theaters June 26th. I promise you, you won't be disappointed. Once again, New Heights, a wonder show brought to you by Enterprise. Nothing parties like a rental. Follow the show on all social media at New Heights Show with 1S for fun clips throughout the week.

1:36:46And thanks to this New Heights production team for being so amazing. But more so, thank you, 92 %ers, for tuning in every single week.

1:37:03Wow, you really shot the moon on that shirt today, Jason.

1:37:06Jason Kelce:Jesus Christ I knew it I'm giving you a compliment Jeez Louise God damn it This guy's so insecure about his shirt

1:37:19You look great Jason

1:37:21Jason Kelce:The seasons are changing The seasons are getting brighter The whorehouse called They want their drapes back Jason Just kidding