LeBron James on Playing in the NFL, Jordan's Pick-Up Games and Favorite Career Milestone | Ep 120

26:32You're like, hey, we didn't lose that fight. We here. We stand here. Yeah. We didn't lose. That's how I felt. I had to stand up. I had to stand up for the NBA. Hell yeah. Hell yeah. You've had a couple of huge milestones recently. Recently passed Kareem Abdul-Jabbar for most points in your career. That's crazy stuff right there. And obviously you and Bronny became the first father-son duo ever to play in the game. I mean, what career achievement means the most to you? Besides the titles. We already talked about the titles. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Like this type of stuff, like which one is the biggest deal to you?

27:07I think besides the titles, you know, obviously the titles ring right up there. There's something that you, you know, when you get into it, that's all you play for. When you're able to get with a franchise and y 'all all believe in the same thing, it's like. Special, man. Yeah, we are competing for championships in every year without a question. And when you're able to accomplish that, it's like that's exactly what the hard work and dedication for. But for me, you know, obviously when it comes to the titles, that's one separate thing. But to be able to be in this league and play in this league and also being able to do it alongside Brownie right now, that's like one of the biggest accomplishments and probably the number one accomplishment I've ever been able to do.

27:40Like to work with your son. That's so crazy. I've heard it from a lot of people and like not only sports, you know, but I've heard it in business and walks of life. And it's just the greatest thing you could ever, ever have. And, you know, to see him every day, you know, grinding and going through the process of trying to become who he wants to become while I am, you know, sitting there and just watching him and doing the things that he wants to do and being able to just take it all in. It helps me get some of the minutes and hours and years back that I did not have with him because I was playing so much and on the road and doing my own things and traveling.

28:18Exactly. So to be able to get some of this time back now, man, it's pretty special. he's handled the hype and the scrutiny and everything so perfect and so well yeah you had the hype coming out but it there wasn't the expectations of being of being as great as you and and yeah and and i didn't have to deal you know we go back to the social media i didn't have to deal with the social media trolls either growing up oh that's interesting you know and i didn't have to deal with my father being this fucking guy that's on the pedestal i have to deal with that. Bronny has to deal with all of that. And if you ever meet Bronny, then you'll realize, you'll be like, I'm such an idiot to look down on him or not want him to do great.

29:00He is the most chill, easy, fun kid in the world. He goes to work. He goes home. He takes care of his body. He plays his video games. He reads a little bit. And then he comes back and does the same thing. And he's like the best big brother that his little brother and little sister could ever have. So, you know, But he's dealing with all that too. But that's going to make him – I think it's going to make him even greater because having to deal with all of the things that he's dealing with and still being able to come back from a life-threatening situation and still have the motivation, still have the motivation.

29:36He didn't have to. Bronny doesn't have to play basketball at all. It's not like he needs the money. Yeah. And he's a smart individual. He can do whatever he wants to do. do whatever he wants to do. Like if he wants to be the CEO of my company, he could be that. I'll give that to start teaching him right now to be that if you want to. But he's like, this is my career. This is my goals. And this is my aspirations. And I want to play ball. This is something that I love. And I love that kid. He's awesome. He's awesome. Can't wait to see him. Keep going, man. Man, appreciate it. At what point do you even realize that that's something that can happen?

30:12Like, I look at my kids. I'm like, bro, that's insane. You're playing with your son in The NBA. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You also had your first daughter when you were like 30. That's fair. But either way, I just think it's amazing. And I don't know. It's got to be like, at what point do you like, I might be able to actually play in the NBA with my, like, was there a moment or like. It was, you know what? It's a video clip of me. I was, that somebody sent to me not too long ago. I think it was about seven years ago. And it's so weird. It's either seven or five years ago or whatever. I think Ronnie was either in the seventh or eighth grade.

30:47And it was my 15th year in the NBA. And I felt incredible. I think that was the year I played all 82 games. I played every playoff game. I think I played like 105 games total that year. And I came out of that season, I felt so damn good. And I think somebody caught me like, you know, do you ever think there was a possibility that you may stick around and possibly play with one of your kids? I was like, the way I feel right now, there is a possibility. Yeah. It just hit you right there. It hit me right then and there. And God willing and damn bat crazy shit to me, it happened. Yes, absolutely. It absolutely happened.

31:26But yeah, it's pretty cool, man. Dude. Yeah, that's awesome. All right. Well, we're going to get to this. We got to ask, but you don't have to answer section. We're going to rattle off a bunch of questions. Feel free. Love it. Tell us to fuck off. Yeah, just tell us to fuck off, man. But we got to know the answers to these ones. Yeah, we usually end all of our conversations with this. So we got a list of questions. Again, you do not have to answer, but we do have to ask them. There's a story about you playing in an infamous pickup game with Michael Jordan when you were 16 years old. What was it like?

31:59Is that true? Like, can you tell us how you played? Yeah. So when I finally was able to get on the court, first of all, MJ, Antoine Walker, and the rest of those guys did not let young guys get on the court at all. And I was 16 years old. I was a sophomore in high school, and it takes a while to get on the court. It's usually when the older guys, they get tired, and they don't want to play no more. They're like, whatever. But I did, and I was able to get on the court alongside. I was on the court with Michael Jordan, Antoine Walker, Penny Hardaway. Legend. Ron Artest. Michael Finley, all these guys.

32:35Who guarded you? Nobody. I was unguardable. Oh! Yeah! Listen, I was 16. I was 16. I'm fine with this baby. There's a, you know. Was 16 the baby fro? Yep, that was the baby fro. I was in Chicago at MJ's court. It was called Hoops. There's a clip right now of actually Metal World Peace talking about that moment as well. Oh, man, I got to check it out. When I finally got out there, I was like, I'm busting ass, man. It's time to show up. I was nervous as hell, like being out there with MJ and the rest of those guys. Are you kidding me? I was like, oh, I'm about to go crazy. And I did. I did, man. That's awesome, man.

33:16I did. That's awesome. Man, I wish I was in that gym that day. That's crazy stuff, man. Well, you see all these shoes behind me, man. You already know I'm a sneakerhead. Oh, I know. I've collected them over the years, man. Was it always Nike? You used to wear the T-Max at St. Vincent St. Mary. I think I've seen you wear the old Iversons. Was it always Nike? Trav, no, it was not. It was not always Nike. It was Nike when I was a young kid, when I was a young lad. That obviously, you know, you, you know, I've been in love with Michael Jordan my whole life. So, you know, I saw him, Penny Hardaway, you know, King Griffey Jr., Bo Jackson.

33:51I watched all these unbelievable sports figures. So as a kid growing up, it was Nike. Once I got into the AAU program, started playing basketball, Adidas took us over, you know, and it became Adidas. It was Adidas like from seventh, eighth grade to pretty much my junior, senior year. They sponsored us every year. We played in all the Adidas tournaments, big time tournament in Vegas and all over the United States of America. So it was it was Adidas. And then my senior year, the process began. The recruitments, the Nikes came in and the Adidas was still there. Reebok came in and won. You know, all these companies came in and I took on three pitches.

34:37I did a Adidas pitch. I did a Reebok pitch. I did a Nike pitch. The best pitch that I got where I thought I was going to end up was actually Reebok at one point. Reebok. I went to their meeting. I went to their meeting, and I sat down across from their CEO and the guys that was running basketball. At the time, I don't know if you guys remember this, but Reebok had the NFL as well. Yes. That's what it was when I first got in the league. Yeah, they had the NFL as well. So they knew my love for football as well. So they had all the NFL jerseys, all the Pro Bowl-looking jerseys. That was going to be the next year.

35:16And I'm sitting across from the table. I'm a senior in high school. I actually have to have – I actually go to – I'm going back to class the next day. They flew me in. I'm going back to St. Vincent St. Mary the next day my senior year. And the guy slides over a check to me at the end of the table. It was me and my mom and Maverick Carter. at the end of the table, and he says, if you don't go talk to any other companies, this is yours. And I look at it. Woo-hoo! I look at it.

35:50$10 million fucking dollars. Oh! $10 million. Just right there, as an 18-year-old, I was still stealing change out of my dad's fucking piggy bank. I was a high school senior, man. They gave me a check for$10 million, if I promise not to go see anybody else. I told them I need a break. They stepped out. I need to fucking break the time out. I can't believe it. I need a time out. My mom looked at it. Me and my mom were living in an apartment in Section 8 housing in Akron. I'm going back. I don't have shit, whatever. My mom looked at me. She said, son, trust your gut. If they're offering you this, then who knows what the other companies may offer you okay mom yeah ma she's composed yeah she's super composed she's like we ain't got shit already so it's not like you know it changes our life at this moment yes maybe in the future but i want you to trust your gut and do what you think is right that's awesome advice man so they came back in boom i said uh thank you i will you You know, I would definitely like to continue our conversation, but I would be remiss if I did not take those other pitches from the other companies.

37:09I may have cried on the way home because I had to leave it to me. Your question, man, I hope I just made the right decision. I was like, I could have bought the building that me and my mom was living in for that goddamn money. What? Easily. You already know. I got a similar, my rookie year, or my rookie contract. I'm coming up, I'm redoing my rookie contract. and I decide I potentially I'm like okay I think I might do this myself I might forego and just be my own agent negotiate my own contract and thankfully my agents were like they talked me into like no no no we need to you're going to want an agent trust me they sent over the first offer and I was like alright where do we sign they're like no no no no we can get it we can go high we can go high oh man that's funny as shit yeah that first time you get get a check like that thrown in front of you.

37:57Oh, for sure. You never forget. You never forget. You never seen that many zeros in your life. Never, never, never. Yes, yes. Man, that's too funny. Have you seen this tweet from 2015? LeBron is 30. This fuckery won't go on for much longer. Thank God. By the way, yes, I saw that tweet throughout all of my 30s. All of my 30s. And I laughed at it so hard. You put it up in the locker and you just put it right there. And you know what? I know what's funny. When I turn 40, the same fucking guy said LeBron turned 40. This fuckery won't go on much longer. That's fucking gold, man. So good. So good. Look at that.

38:42That's so good. Oh, my goodness. Oh, my goodness. He's going to be really upset when I turn 50. No doubt. No doubt. That shit was fucking classic, man. Brian, did you ever hoop in a Heights gym? I don't think I hooped in a Heights gym, man. I don't think so. You know what? I was actually thinking about that. And if I don't, I know it was never a game. I never played Cleveland Heights, in Cleveland Heights, but I might have been there for maybe a summer league game or just for a run or something. Man. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Either way, man. It's Northeast Ohio forever. I want to ask one more question, and I know you've talked about this before.

39:21How did you do this? from the expectations that were on your feet. Trav, you touched on this. Like, I just never seen anybody, and I don't know that I ever will, handle every step of the way with such just, like, class and grace. Like, I don't know, man. It's just been remarkable to watch the whole journey and to see the whole thing happen. And I know it's not over yet and keep on going. I appreciate it, man. What is the wisdom? What's the wisdom to anybody else? Listen, Jay, Trav, man. And one, knowing where I came from, you know, you come from Hacker, you come from Cleveland, you come from Northeast Ohio.

39:57You know that you are one or two and three in a billion. And if you get that opportunity, man, you one, you can't you can't fuck it up. You just can't. Yeah. Got to lock in, man. You know, being from a, you know, single parent household and, you know, and just me and my mom have no siblings, you know, seeing the struggle that my mom went through and things of that nature. That was another thing that I was like, OK, you can't fuck her up. Like, you just can't, you know, because now you're given this opportunity. Yeah. Then I started thinking about my career. I was like, what do you want to be? And how do you want to be remembered?

40:32Like, do you want to just go out and play ball or do you actually want to be remembered when you're not playing ball? So, like, I took that into consideration. I took that into serious account. I was like, I want to be the greatest that anyone has ever seen in the sport ever. ever. And then I was like, okay, but in order for that to happen, not only do I got to put the work in on the court, I have to make sure that I take care of the business off the court as well. You can't be a shit show. You can't be a piece of shit. You can't be doing things that affects anything that has anything to do with your profession and being available to your teammates, being available to the franchise, being available every time you get out there, that caused a distraction.

41:11I felt that. And when I started to start my family, that was another part. I knew Savannah was the one. I started having kids. I was like, I didn't have that male influence. My dad wasn't around. I was like, okay, I can't fuck that up. So like, all of this is like piling on, piling on and piling on. And yes, with the weight of the world on my shoulders. I remember I did an interview. I wasn't even in the NBA yet. I think I had just got drafted. I did an interview with like Bob Costas or something. I think it was him. And he said, like, how does it feel to know that if you're not a first round ballot Hall of Famer, people will look at you, look at you as a failure.

41:46I was like, I said first ballot Hall of Famer. I'm like 18 years old. I haven't even played the game yet. Like people look at me as a failure. I was like that. I was like, oh, shit. This is thought about that. I haven't even thought about that. Oh, my God. There's people out here that really want me to fail. Oh, my goodness. And I use that as motivation. I was like, I got something for y 'all. I got something for y 'all. So, man, it's a lot, but it's also just like to the young guys out there that feel the pressure, that, you know, feel like it's maybe too much. Like if you just put the work in, don't be an asshole.

42:21Be a good person, you know, and dedicate yourself to the craft. The game will always be kind to you. That's always. Take care of your body. Eat well. You know, give your faith, you know, to the higher above because we're nothing without them. obviously and just be a good person man it's not hard it's not hard to saying thank you you're welcome how you doing have a good day all that type of good shit like oh yeah it's nothing wrong nothing wrong leading your life in the right direction baby there it is there it is rewarded yeah you get rewarded every time it's been inspirational the whole way uh not just as a player but i mean off the field what you've done from a business side like like trab i know you know this, but the impact you've had on players, not just in basketball, but other sports who have seen the success you've had all walks of life.

43:10The empire you've created around yourself, the trust you've been able to have with the people around you. I mean, all that stuff. You know, I've taken notes since the jump, man. I keep a lot of people very similar to me, close to me and around me in the business profession. And I took notes from you on it. So I appreciate you doing the right things always and forever. And I appreciate you coming on tonight. Yeah, baby. Thank you for taking the time. This is an all-timer for us. That's up, man. All-timer. Yes, sir. New heights went to a new height today, baby. Let's go, baby. Let's go. Got the king, man.

43:43Let's go. Thank you very much, dog. Hell yeah. I love you, boys, man. Tell the family we said hello, man. Absolutely. So much love for you. Best of luck to you in the next game, man. I'll be watching. You know we get after it. Yes, I already know. I already know. All right, my guys, love. This new year, healthy habits don't only apply to humans. Give your dog a fresh start, too. The Farmer's Dog makes feeding real healthy dog food easy and convenient, and your dog will absolutely love it. The pre-portioned meals are personalized for your dog's needs, which makes it simple to help your dog reach and maintain a healthy weight.

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46:11Holy shit. Man, it's just never enough time with my guy, man. I mean, that flew by. I just want to just grill him. I just want to go and I never want to grill them. And whenever I'm hanging out with them, like I never want to just bring up. It's not bringing up. So it was Nike always, you know what I mean? Just like put them on the spot. If you had any advice for someone getting into business venture. Perfect. Perfect. That's what I was going to do. Yeah. Just keep grilling him. Man, he's the best though, man. What a good dude, man. That was the Cleveland kid in me. Whenever we talk to just some Northeast Ohio guys or girls, it just comes out of me.

46:53I feel like I'm like 15 all over again. It's fun stuff right there. There is flower everywhere. Hilarious. Absolutely hilarious. You're like George Washington. Oh, look, it's George. Quick divisional round. Look ahead. Let's talk a little football. Even though we just talked the previous week with LeBron and DraftKings, any surprises from you specifically? on last week's matchups and the outcomes? Nothing that's – I mean, in the playoffs, anybody can win. That's why it's the playoffs, right? So nothing that surprising. Playoffs! You know, Tampa was one of my sleeper teams. I really thought Baker Mayfield, the only part of the season where they dipped down a little bit was when Evans and Godwin got hurt.

47:39And they weathered that storm pretty well. I keep thinking Washington doesn't have the roster this year, and they keep proving me wrong. So I'm going to stop thinking that. You know what I mean? I keep thinking they're just a year away from having the guys to really get it done. But, man, Dan Quinn, Jaden Daniels has been playing out of his mind all year. He's taking care of the ball, man. And they're stopping the run. I thought Bucky Irvin was going to have a hell of a day. And he played well. But I don't know. I keep thinking that somebody's going to have a game where they just kind of dominate the trenches on both sides of the ball.

48:11And it's just not happening. Tampa Bay didn't play bad. It was a good game. They had a couple mistakes at the end that really hurt them. But Washington also was, I mean, they had a couple fourth down calls that kept Tampa in it. You know what I mean? I think did Washington punt? They punted like what, none? No times. No punts. No turnovers. They were moving the ball. They were putting together sustained drives. I've been impressed with Washington all year, but I didn't think that this would be their year to compete with the big dogs. And I've been proven wrong, clearly. Jaden Daniels has had a tremendous season.

48:48Their whole defense has been galvanized on an organization and team that I think has lacked a lot of hope and leadership a little bit with the whole Dan Snyder thing. And I think Rivera is a phenomenal coach. It felt like that organization was missing something. And for this to turn around this quickly has been remarkable. Shout out to all those guys, man. And Bobby Wagner still playing lights out. It's been awesome to watch. Zach Ertz is out there balling. Ertzie. Man, I love seeing him get after still in his career, man. For sure. You know, shout out to Baker on a great year. I know it's not the way those guys wanted it.

49:25I'm just happy that he's found a home down there in Tampa playing well. I mean, I'm right there with you. I thought that was the one upset that I didn't see coming. And they got to really – I mean, I think they're the ones playing the Lions, right? They're playing the Lions this week. This will be a big one. Yeah. I mean, if you can stop the run. Bro, well, this is the one, like, I don't know, man. I just, they play so well. Like, they're so well coached on offense and defense, Washington and Detroit. But, like, every time I think they're going to get run on, Dan Quinn and this defensive line shows up.

49:59Bobby Wagner starts making plays. Like, the Eagles had a couple big counter runs on them early the last time they played Washington. Saquon had a big run. He was, like, over 100 yards in the first, like, quarter damn near. And then right after that, you see Bobby start scraping over the top of the tight end and ruining that play. It's a vet, man. To put it in – Jonathan Gannon used to use this word all the time. They're salty, man. They find a way to get it done. They're a resilient group. And now they find themselves playing in the divisional round. And it's been an incredible year for Washington.

50:32I mean, I would be beyond shocked if they get it done against Detroit this week too. but I mean at some point it's just they're having a great year the quarterback is playing really well they're well coached and it seems like they're a great group together so kudos to Washington for getting it done shout out to the commanders baby let's uh let's speak in the next week let's go ahead and talk some uh some divisional around uh football baby okay okay well we got Chiefs Texans um how do you feel 25 days since you last played on Christmas how about that you gotta feel pretty fresh well i mean i've been getting after it i've been getting after it never never too fresh you gotta keep the wear and tear on the body you can't let your body get out of the zone you know i mean you gotta stay in the zone you gotta that's why we were in pads this week we had one or one practice in pads and uh we got after it ones on ones a little bit and that keeps you in the groove right that keeps you feeling football um it keeps you um kind of having that endurance that muscle memory that you need to to come out and and play fast man but The Texans, I mean, you want to talk about playing fast, that D-line, that defense, it's a real deal right there.

51:44And they showed it this past weekend against the Chargers on what they can do, and they can create turnovers. They're a tough team. They're a tough team, man. And I'm excited for the challenge, man. Their secondary is very good. They can match up with pretty much any team in the league. Their defensive line plays very aggressive. They're well-coached with D 'Amico Ryans. um i you know matt burke dude it's crazy how many staff members i know for the texans tomico ryan's i played with burke the dc was with me in philly with jim schwartz uh cory unland was with me in philly billy davis was the dc with chip nate ollie's the defensive line coach like dude i know the entire fucking defensive staff i was doing one of the games they just kept walking by i'm like god damn you old motherfuckers are over here they're well coach they play physical they play fast they got a great group really do so it's going to be a challenge for you guys shout out to houston and uh good luck this week you got any what's what's what's the keys to victory the keys to victory man i haven't heard about that i play physical um just give the don't turn the ball over don't turn the ball over get out to a fast start it's like the head coach for the keys of victory just has like a a running like seven list of like what it could possibly be and it's just how do i rearrange into three keys turnovers is always there take care of the football which i mean playoff football control the line of scrimmage You got to control the line of scrimmage.

53:18There you go. Big boys up front. You guys control this thing. That's going to indicate the outcome right there. Yeah. No, man. Got to play complementary all three phases. Got to play together. Like, it's football. It's not that hard, ladies and gentlemen. Everybody knows that those are the things that you got to do. Okay, so the same thing that works every week for victories. Got it. Okay, do those. That's the one, Jason. That's the one. No, obviously this team plays very, very well together, man. And it's going to take all 11 on the field. Yeah. I just said another one of them right there. You can't stop.

53:50It always comes down to that. It's just the same thing every single time. Got to punch him in the mouth. Got to punch him right in the mouth. Well, let's talk a little Eagles. Rams. Yeah. Rams coming into town. You think Saquon scores instead of slides this week? Dude, I was like, just go score, baby. He's like, I didn't want to put the defense back out on the field. Is that what the – I mean, yeah. You never know what happens. It's very unselfish. I remember a similar play happening where we ended up scoring a touchdown. The defense goes back out there and somebody gets banged up and misses the next week.

54:25So it's like, yeah, I mean, I get it. I mean, that was the thing. I'm going down at the one, though. Yeah. Get all of my yards I can. But then, I don't know. Man, that's why he's where he's at. I'm here. Anyways. Selfless. Selfless. Absolutely selfless, man. And he's been like that the whole year. So he's just the ultimate team player. I expect nothing less. Definitely would have scored if it was me, but that's why I don't play running back in the NFL and get 2 ,000 yards. There you go. You did average nine yards of carry, though, in high school. Oh, yeah. I ran all over that turf over in Lakewood.

55:00I was flying on that AstroTurf. These kids nowadays don't know what turf is. Yes. You ever heard of AstroTurf? It's carpet over a parking lot. People don't even know. It's carpet over a parking lot. People call, well, we play on NowTurf, in AstroTurf. I'm like, no, this is different. This is field turf. No, this is completely different, all right? This isn't carpet. You don't have to put strips of tape so that your skin doesn't get scrubbed off. We bring extra bottles. When the trainers bring extra bottles of, what is it, peroxide? Yes. All right, because we're fucking all day just fucking dumping it on wounds.

55:38Everybody leaves with a raspberry. If you didn't leave with a raspberry, I don't want you playing. But I'll tell you what, when you're young and it doesn't hurt your joints, it's fun because you're fast. You are flying on that stuff. Yeah. Everyone brings tennis shoes instead of cleats. It's like a reminder to everybody the day before. And don't come with your cleats tomorrow, guys. I had those little nubs. I had like actual AstroTurf cleats. Dude, yeah. Those are the best. Yeah. Well, that's impressive. Yeah. I just had basketball shoes. It works too. There you go. But yeah, no, I'm excited about this game.

56:12I mean, the Rams, obviously, I was just there this Monday. They played a phenomenal game against the Vikings, Matthew Stafford. They're clicking on all cylinders right now in L.A., so it's going to be a great game. It's in the link. The Eagles got the better of the Rams last time they played, but the Rams have been getting better. They played so fast this past week, and I don't know if it was having the week off the week before where they rested some of their starters, but they look like a very, very good football team right now. Oh, yeah. Matthew's still slinging that ball as good as he ever has.

56:47Slinging it around out there. So, yeah, it's going to be a tough game for the Eagles, but, yeah, it'll be a fun one. Let's keep this thing moving, man. Hopefully we can get this dubbed this weekend, man, and keep our playoff hopes alive, baby. Hey, yo. Our Super Bowl hopes alive. Finally, last week, we promised we would do a blind ranking of Will Ferrell movies this episode. Oh, yeah. Yeah, let's get it going, baby. That's right. So, intern Brandon, please do the honors. I'm trying to remember all of Will's movies. He's got so many. So, pulled these off of his top 10 on IMDb. So. Is this in order?

57:22Are we seeing one? No, no. You're seeing them. These are just numbers. These are just numbers don't mean anything right now. You sure? Just the first movie. Please. I kind of feel like you would have gone in order. You don't. I'm sneakier than that. Give me some fucking credit. Movie number one. Step Brothers. fuck this is the top this is definitely a top if not one it's top three i'm trying to think what's better than stepbrothers dude it's so fucking good like i could watch it right the fuck now which is damn near every movie wills in but i know i'm going fuck it feels weird to put the first movie we see at number one that's a risk we wouldn't be wrong that's no it's definitely not wrong i mean this is a lot of people's number ones it might be my number one i'm trying to like i love old school i really do love old school stepbrothers but that i feel like that wasn't as much gets better and better every time and anchorman i'm also if this is will if this is will ferrell a movie like old school he wasn't the lead that's fair that's fair to say you know what i mean like although he did he did he made probably the most impression on me as a kid as Frank the Tank.

58:35Does he get considered his Wedding Crashers a Will Ferrell movie, even though he's not the main guy? Wedding Crashers. Mom, the meatloaf! Oh, yeah. No, you can't put him in there. He's in a lot of one. When I think of Wedding Crashers, I don't think of Will. Yeah, you think of Vince Vaughn. Think of God dang, what's the other guy with the crooked nose? Wilson. Owen. Wilson. The crooked nose. Jesus, Jason. I'm going to put it at two or three, just because I think Anchorman's my favorite movie. Anchorman's my favorite. I love it. Let's go two. All right, two. Second movie up. We're going to forget about one.

59:10Talladega. You're in my wheelhouse right now, Brandon. You are in my fucking wheelhouse. I mean, it's got to be three. If we're going Anchorman's one, it's just got to be three. It's so good. And it's one of those that every time you see it, it just gets better. Fuck, you're right. God, it's so good. I mean, it's got to be three. It can't be one. I'm just curious what else is on this list. He's had so many movies. It's hard to remember all of them. all like off the top of your head. I got, I think it's either three or four. I can't go lower than that. Yeah, it's three. I'm going three. It's two if it's not one.

59:42It's so fun. It's so fantastic. So it's got to be three. I love The Ballad of Ricky Bobby. Next movie. Oh, so good. The Other Guys. Great movie. Great movie. God damn it. Does this go four? Fuck. I mean, this one's more of an underrated one. and I don't exactly know why because it's absolutely incredible. Dude, it is so good. I'm going to say it's below Elf and Anchorman for me. I also think it's probably below old school, even though he's not the main in old school. It's just more of an iconic movie. This one never got the level of notoriety that all the other ones did for whatever reason. I don't really know why.

1:00:21I don't really look at movie reviews or ratings. I just watched the movies, and this is up there for me. So I'm going six. I'm going six. No, that's gotta be five. All right. I'll go five. I'll go five. I'm missing so much. I'll concede. His movies are so good that I can't even imagine putting anything at 10. This is where we're going to have to start putting some of these movies down there. Travis. We have to. All right. Next one. Next movie. Old school. This. See, just I'm just because it's. God, he's Frank. Frank. center it's Frank the Tank. He goes streaking to the quad. You're fucking crazy, man.

1:01:01Do you think KFC's still open? You're fucking crazy. I love you. We're going streaking! But you're fucking crazy. Yeah, Frank, the whole town knows you had a good time last night. I think Elf and Anchorman are one and four. Those are the two that we gotta leave. No way, not four. No. No, I'm saying Elf and Anchorman are one and four. I'm saying seven. I'm saying this is seven. Old school is seven? Yeah, I'm saying seven. Just because he's not the main? Yeah. If I'm just rating the movie, I'd put it up higher. Can we go six? No, dude. There's so many good Will Ferrell movies we're missing. But this movie is fantastic.

1:01:34It is. It's Vince. The cast is incredible. The movie is great. Are we rating this on a Will Ferrell scale or just like the best movies that Will Ferrell has been in? I've been going off of a Will Ferrell scale. Come on now. Give me a number. Just go seven, dude. Seven. I will reluctantly. I just disagree. Then go six. Fine. Six. I kind of want to go four. Then go four. Fuck it. Just get me through this. Jesus. All right. We'll lock it in at four. Next movie. A Night at the Roxbury. That's what I'm talking about. Well, this is a guilty pleasure for us. This one is. I'm so pissed that we didn't talk this.

1:02:18Because it started off on SNL and it fucking became a fucking. full-on movie. And then I used to work out at Jake Glazer's gym, Unbreakable, on Roxbury Road. There we go. Shout out to Jake Glazer and Unbreakable. Okay, Larry Legend. Shout out to Larry Legend. I love this movie. It is an all-time favorite of mine. It is so fucking good. I feel like Night at the Roxbury, even though it's one of our favorites, objectively not one of his better films. I think you got to go seven or eight. I'll go eight. Eight? All right, eight. locking in at eight next movie elf this is where we've ran into triples we have to leave one open for anchorman i got you a little bit no i front loaded it i got you so i say six cool kicking and scream this is what i'm saying this is what i'm fucking saying man it's a good movie but i feel very confident this is outside of that top six we have right now all right seven then because i'm it's up there for me you're putting this in seven i love kicking and screaming is it better than Blades of Glory?

1:03:23I don't know. Is it better than Semi-Pro? No. I think this one's 10 for me. All right. I think it's a good movie. I mean, listen, there's not a bad Will Ferrell movie. Night of the Roxbury should have been 10. Wait, where did you put that? 10. 10. This is 10. Interesting. I love that. Fuck. Next movie. So good. Semi-Pro. I'll go 9, Semi-Pro. 9. This is, yeah, we're on the same page. I fucking love Jackie Moon, though, man. Jackie Moon is electric. All of these movies are fantastic. Next up, we have Blades of Glory. Seven. Dude, if you do not have Anchorman with this last film. He's such an asshole if he doesn't have Anchorman.

1:04:01He did IMDb top 10, so it has to be Anchorman. I don't even need to see it. All right. Last movie, Anchorman. Yeah! I feel good about this list. Do you remember Anchorman 2? Yes. Oh, yeah. Dude. It's actually really good. It's so you want to talk about a movie that gets better as you get older. That movie is so fucking funny. Oh, my God. That shit is fucking gold. Look at that cast. Oh, man. I got to fucking grill my guy Paul Rudd about that movie, man. I need to know more. I feel pretty good about this list. It's a solid list. This is a pretty solid list. Would we change anything with it not being blind?

1:04:45I'd probably switch Night at the Roxbury and either Kicking and Screaming or Semi-Pro. I think that one was kind of just a silly one where these ones actually like the character was like, I don't know. I just felt like those characters were better. Night at the Roxbury is a guilty pleasure of ours, though. People are going to want Elf higher. Elf's going to get some tweets. Well, initially I was already Elf for four, but he's got so many great movies. I don't think Elf is better than... I mean, I might put it above other guys. Probably other guys in old school for me. I'm not putting it above old school.

1:05:21Old school is too iconic to me. God damn it. I love Talladega Nights with a passion. It's so... I feel very confident Anchorman and Step Brothers are one and two, though. Yeah. I think we killed the first... The top three. Any issues with the list, please tweet at jchat85. I think that was Jake's. Please let him know. Tell us how you feel. Tell him specifically how you feel. Tell him he fucked up. Get him. That wraps up another episode of New Heights. That's it. Thank you to LeBron James for showing up and coming out. Yeah, that was incredible. The best. Still kind of crazy that that even happened.

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