Matt & Brady Tkachuk on 4 Nations Face-Off, Partying with The Cup & Art of Hockey Fights | Ep 126

25:36So, yeah, but usually the mindset is how can I knock this guy out? I love it. I love it. No better feeling. If somebody gets like cheeky and like kind of like dodges and like moves, is it frowned upon if a guy like kind of like flanks or if he like tries to like. Are there any rules or any unwritten rules? Is there any other finesse kind of move that you make that's like. i've seen i've seen guys do like the superman punch and like that's always like in a square up that's the only thing i'm thinking about is like i do not want to get superman punch but guys would like kind of like throw head fakes like get in there and it's like and you don't want to like overextend to go grab him because then he like back up and can throw but yes um i mean unwritten rules like usually when the guy's down you don't hit him right there's no unwritten rule unless you don't like the guy which we usually don't then we're still throwing at the bottom so but yeah there's it's it's a free-for-all when it comes to us too that doesn't matter until the refs come in it's until we're going to the box and still try to throw yeah i love it man how was like moms and grandmas how do they feel about uh you guys throwing them or dropping gloves well nobody knew and honestly it didn't even cross our minds that like we didn't tell anybody in our family and then i guess we're just debriefing after the game with with the fam And of course, everybody was so excited.

27:01But I guess my dad saw right off the draw, like Matthew going back with like his one glove off. And he's like, tap my mom's like, you don't really know what's coming, but it's happened. She's like, what are you talking about? Then whistle. And then the gloves came off. And I guess she was just my mom doesn't really handle it too well. I think, I mean, she's accepted like that's kind of who we are as players. But I think on that stage, and she was pretty nervous. And then same thing happened the next draw. My dad was like, hey, Brady's going. Just watch. He's like, no, he's not. No way. There's no way he's letting his brother in.

27:43I guess for like 15 minutes, she just couldn't believe what was going on. And our grandma, it's the same thing. I think it's a little nervous, but I think she knows how he grew up. and how we were roughhousing each other growing up and how we've kind of built that toughness with the both of us that we can kind of handle our own. But it's funny. I know Matthew's fiance, my wife, I don't think – they're not like that. They're like almost – it's like that's who we are. So it's funny to see the – Not even surprised. And our sister Taryn, she loves it. Yeah! She was probably giving so many fist pumps and high five at everybody.

28:25And so it's pretty funny to see the different people in our life with the different reactions that they have for it. That shit's awesome, man. My favorite reaction was when they cut to Matthew in the penalty box after you started fucking brawling. Dude, you were fucking banging on the glass. Dude, I can only imagine how that feels to watch your brother just be on his team fighting for your country. It's like the one time you get to represent your country. and you guys know you guys did it the most badass way, man. That's just so cool. Watching Brady was legit like the most proud I've ever been.

28:57It was just so surreal. It was awesome. Yeah, that's another thing. You guys shared a penalty box together. What was that like? What did you guys talk about in there? It was a highlight. It was a highlight. We were just talking about the fight, how awesome it was. It was five minutes ever spent. And then Millsy came in and just the same thing. We were just like, oh, my God. that just happened. This is awesome. Now let's go win the game. Let's go make it meaningful and win the game. But it was unbelievable. It was just like those little things that like I know I was mic'd up for that game and I'm excited to see like the full clip.

29:34And there was a little clip of our conversation right when we came in and it was pretty funny because I'm excited to see the whole clip of just what we were even talking about. It's like two kids talking. It's like, how was my fight? Oh, it was great.

29:49It's just like, I don't know. You guys know what it's like. We're just, we're more with each other. It's like we're two little kids again, just having fun. So that's what it felt like in the box. It was the best. Fuck. Yeah, man. Well, there was a lot of momentum built up and now I think the NHL is going to benefit from this. People are all in on hockey right now. It's an awesome time to be in the United States as a hockey fan. What do you think the USA can continue to do to build on this momentum and and continue to push the sport as a country? Well, I think it's exciting because you've got people across the country that might have never heard about hockey before or watched a game that are now fans.

30:28And that's something that, you know, I think Brady and I and the rest of our team should be proud of and that we grew the game in this country. And the game's in a better place now than it was two weeks ago. So I think that first and foremost is very exciting. I just think we have to keep building momentum, like with these international events too, because like I said, how much pride our team showed in representing our country. And there was nothing like wearing that jersey. It doesn't matter what team you're on. Like there is just nothing like it. So I just think next year when it comes to the Olympics, we have to do a job and compete our asses off and ultimately come out with exactly what we want to accomplish.

31:04So I think that's very important. But the game's in a better place right now. And this tournament was a great idea for whoever came up with it. And it was a huge success. So hockey keeps growing in this country. And I think, too, like, you know, our team in Florida, you know, a nontraditional hockey market. It's seen so much youth hockey grow. Tampa's had a lot of success, so you're seeing it there. And then our captain, Austin Matthews, is from Scottsdale. You know, like there's guys from all over the country that maybe, you know, when my dad played, it was Minnesota and Boston and Michigan. So it's growing a lot right now.

31:40We just got to keep it going and keep putting together good performances. Yep. Fuck yeah, man. Well, growing up in a hockey house, man, your dad played 19 seasons in the NHL, which is, god damn, that's impressive, man. So you guys grew up in St. Louis. Were you guys big blues fans? Or who were you guys cheering on in terms of, like, who you guys were attracted to growing up in the NHL world? Was it, like, Brett Hall and the boys or what? My dad came a little bit later than Holly. My dad came, we were both born in Arizona when he played for the Coyotes. and then I think I was four, Brady was two maybe.

32:15I don't know the exact. When we moved to St. Louis, instantly got hooked on the Blues and the players on that team. But it's funny, like, as we got older, because my dad played until he was 39, so we were more than old enough to remember and watch and love the game and love some of the teammates and other guys across the league. At one point later on in his career, our dad's just our dad. He's not an NHL player. He's not cool. The cool guys are Sidney Crosby and Patrick Kane. So as much as we were blues fans, you know, we are idols and guys we want to be like, we're, we're Sidney Crosby, Patrick Kane, some of those young, you know, studs at the time that now we get to play against.

32:56So it's, it's so surreal. But our, our dad is, is, you know, is the best. And looking back, you know, what he did for us is he kind of ingrained the love for hockey, like organically but him bringing us to the rink all the time like there were no rules from the coach or the gm like my boys are coming to the rink they're gonna skate before they're gonna hang out in the room and luckily they're you know everybody was really cool with it and allowed it but that's awesome man that's so cool so i think and brie and i both played in the nhl when we were 18 and i think what a lot of guys have trouble with maybe out of the gates is what it's like coming into a room full of, you know, NHL guys at that age.

33:35And maybe the lights might be too bright, but, you know, we grew up in the rink, you know, with my dad bringing us and being around the guys, being around the trainers, you know, treating them, you know, as good as you can. And, you know, just being around older guys. And, and so I think that him doing that really allowed us to have success right away and allowed us to make the NHL at that age. So a lot of credit goes to that but growing up i don't know brady like some of the best memories for us is just being around the room with the guys and shooting the shit and skating with them before practice i mean it's it's memories that i've always thought about and i can't believe that we were lucky enough to be able to do that heck we were just talking about uh your family watching you guys brawl did you guys ever see dad throw the uh throw the hands on the ice oh yeah what was that like a couple of times oh it was it was we were just oh dad you got you got beat up last night like come on uh no i mean i remember like just watching because we were so close to the action and it was just like just so fired up that we'd probably try to emulate it in the like the room after like oh this is how like he did it we just start going and i remember it's so like there's guys just egging us on and we were just going toe-to-toe in the locker room i remember i remember once we were in the room we were playing like we were just like you know play fight somebody would be like all right you guys should fight we drop the gloves you know fight whatever but i remember one time it was after the game uh we're in the family lounge and we're playing mini sticks with a bunch of kids and i and i just run brady and the numbers you know right from right cross check the back or right to the couch so as the uh the blues doctors and training staff had an you know an easy night nobody got hurt so they're leaving the rink and my dad calls back and the team doctor comes grabs was Brady and Brady had to get stitches.

35:26Those are some of the shenanigans that we were up to at the rink. It was a blast. Dude, mini sticks is such a freak. And that's all we used to do. When Travis was playing, like all the brothers, we'd be playing mini sticks where they used to store the nets. Right? The nets would go out on the ice and then we'd go into that cage and we'd play mini sticks with each other. Our dad actually set up a mini stick arena in our basement. He put plywood all along. This wasn't anything special. He just puts – No, at the time it was special. It was epic. It would be full contact with mini sticks down there.

35:58It was epic. You already know. Mini sticks is a classic. How much advice did Pop give you guys as far – and is he still giving you advice as far as like being a hockey player and navigating your careers? Yeah, he talks to us after every game. And the thing that he said, honestly, since we can remember Matthew and even to this day is there's two things. Just be a good teammate and just work your ass off. And those are the only two things that you can control. And just if you do that every single day, that goes to the next guy, and that goes to the next guy. And that's how you become a winning team.

36:38And for Matthew, a Stanley Cup team. And, of course, Matthew's been so new to Florida, but I think just that mindset and that advice that he's brought in just was a breath of fresh air for that team. And the reason why they're successful in Stanley Cup champs is because of Matthew in that mindset. So I think it's just, you know, big Walt, he's got a lot of advice, but those two, he's always said right from a young age. That's awesome. He sounds like a fucking man. You guys are making your dad sound like a fucking OG. I love it. How was it? How cool was it to get him to drink out of the Stanley Cup, man?

37:12Was that like, well, that had to be one of the most proud moments ever. We got some stories. I know he's got way more stories. It was so special. He worked his ass off for 19 years and came close, but ultimately didn't get to finish the job. So to me, one of the coolest parts of that day, I'm sure Brady might remember it a little bit, but I remember it vividly exactly what was going on. So we're obviously up 3-0. We blow a 3-0 lead. We're going to game seven. And for some reason, like this day was just, it was just a calmer day. Like it was just, I don't know why it probably shouldn't have been, but it just felt better.

37:51And I'm going to my car, uh, to drive to the rink and Brady and my dad walk me out. Don't say anything, just walk me to the car. And I thought that was just like, uh, all right, they got my back, you know, no matter what happens, but you know, this is, this is important. And as I'm driving out, I just like, you know, I just clues in with me. I'm like, I'm not only playing for, you know, myself and my teammates, but like I'm playing for my family that have sacrificed absolutely everything for me. My dad has come so close. You know, Brady has put in so much work and we'll get there one day. But like I'm playing for my whole family and everybody that's got me to this point.

38:31So that was like a super cool moment. And then the next coolest was after that game when we're on the ice when I finally got to hug them all. And I don't know how, but the cup got into my hands, like when all the families were out there and just me handing it to my dad. That first time was a feeling that I'll never be able to really explain how unbelievable it was. And then all the shenanigans and the locker room after it was just, you know, the cherry on top. But that was such an incredible day and one of the most amazing days of my life. And I was so happy I got to share it with, you know, my brother, you know my sister my parents all the family um it was really cool that's so hell yeah hell yeah we uh we talk about how the stanley cup is the coolest of all the trophies man it's not even tradition where each player gets a chance to you know have a day with them and i just think it's what the fuck did this guy just go

39:30yeah so did you take it back home with you or what was the did you did you get a day with it or a couple of days? How did it work with you after you won it? Yeah, so it was all like so fast. I remember we won. I had like went to the Cape Cod to party for 4th of July, then went out in Tahoe, saw you guys there. Then right after Tahoe, like I had to race back to St. Louis because I got it like a couple of days later. So it all happened so fast, but I was the lucky one. I got it for a day and a half. So I got to hit up everything I wanted to in St. Louis. I had, you know, an unreal party, people flying in from all over the country, family from everywhere, friends came back in town.

40:12It was it was so cool. But the two things that I really, really wanted to do when I had Day with the Cup is one, I really wanted to bring it to the Children's Hospital. It's been such a big, you know, important charity in our family's life, going back to my dad, giving back and working with them throughout his career and then Brie and I doing stuff in our respective cities. So that was like number one, wanted to take it there. That's awesome, man. Love that. Love that. And then too, like, I just really wanted like a few hours at some point in the day where it was just my family and I, and just staring at the cup and just, just hanging out and like hearing the cup stories from the, you know, from the cupkeeper, uh, you know, hearing, you know, what was the craziest year, craziest party?

40:58What'd this guy do with it? you know where did this guy take it and just hearing all the incredible things that this big silver trophy has been through and now it's in my house and I get to hold it and lift it whenever I want like it was so surreal and and I know it was just so special for me to have the support of of all my family throughout the whole year but like that day in the middle of summer when it started to you know die down a little bit was a truly an incredible day and and yeah I can't wait to try to compete for it again. Well, you got into some trouble at the start with the cupkeeper.

41:32Oh, yeah. They weren't happening. I didn't know you could get in trouble with the cupkeeper. What are you going to do to get in trouble with that guy? Yeah, I didn't know he could either. But I guess after we won zero hours of sleep about 40 beers later, I took it into the ocean and I guess it doesn't deal well with salt water which it makes sense now but i didn't know the rules i mean we just won we just won the thing 12 hours earlier like i don't think about any rules uh yeah but they weren't too thrilled with me but uh yeah it's all good we're good now yeah that thing was actually in this basement that i'm in right now i got to see it firsthand i couldn't can't drink out of it unless you want it or with somebody who's won it so but i did get to look at it, which it's even more of a spectacle in person.

42:28This fucking jabroni. So congratulations for winning that. We did have another, speaking of cups, we did have another cup situation this offseason. You brought up Tahoe. We got to see Travis's flip cup skills. Were you impressed with Travis's flip cup skills? Or, he's a little bit of a, he's a flanker. You gotta be careful with him. I remember, it was the first time I played the drinking game baseball.

42:58I've told the story because I don't know one of the guys that we were playing with. I know it was four on four. I know our team was Travis, Miles Teller, Chase Crawford, and myself. It was BG, Blake Griffin, The Miz, Osh, and Baker. Yeah, so it was kind of an iconic game. Yeah, and somebody's family member, I don't know who, but took a picture of it or something. I just remember, I mean, Trav was like Shohei. He was hitting home runs and stealing bases. He was the MVP. I was in that way. You were just hitting singles, hey? I was in singles. Camaraderie. On base. On base percentage. That's what it's all about.

43:54On base percentage. Yeah, that was really fun. I mean, you guys know how fun that week was, and I'm looking forward to this year again. Brady, are you going to make it out to Tyo this year? I'll take a caddy job at this point. I don't have to have the stress of shanking it, hitting people, just have some beers and hang out. It happens. If you make it out this year, Brady, we got us four. We got to get a mini sticks drinking game figured out. We got to figure out some game revolving mini sticks and beer. I'm in on that. Oh, absolutely. I remember Osh, man. Osh, once we went to Flip Cup, I started, like, kind of getting a little, like, bending the rules a little bit.

44:30Dude, he was not having it, man. I was like, I'm one more, like, cheating, like, one more time cheating away from just getting fucking socked by my guy right here, man. we're about to have a good old-fashioned hockey fight right here and uh yeah no that was a fun fun night for sure we got to wrap up we're gonna ask a few we got to ask you don't have to answer that's the name of this segment so we're gonna ask questions you don't have to answer them you can tell us to fuck off whatever you want but we are gonna ask these questions all right you ready perfect we gotta ask is brought to you by metos go yeah right now Brady, you can just answer first each time.

45:08Boom. There we go. All right. Who was the favorite growing up? Matthew. Matthew? Oldest? I don't think so. I think – no, let's say Taryn. Let's go with the easy answer. There you go. That's easy. She's the only girl in the family, so she's the favorite. All right. Do you guys have a welcome to the NHL moment? We talk about this with football guys, any moment that is like, oh, wow. So I'm in the league now. Yeah. I know for me, I was standing next to Alex Ovechkin. I was like, oh, my God. What is going on right now? I think he had like two goals that night. I'm like, I was dashed to. I'm like, all right, that's why I welcome to you.

45:52I'm going to go work on some stuff. That's a good one. I think mine was just first NHL game was in the new Edmonton rink. and they did like a passing of the torch moment right before we went on the ice where Gretzky and Messier were on the ice just like with the puck and they left it and then McDavid came flying off the bench and like took the puck and scored and the building erupted I'm like holy I can't be here right now I'm like there's no way I'm in the right place and I just said that was so that was that was mine but also I played Ovechkin uh a few weeks after and same story as Brady he's like welcome to the NHL kid and I'm like how does he and he's he's a big man too so that was that was cool yeah yeah Ovechkin's a man if you uh if you guys drop gloves on the ice between you two or maybe even you and your dad who's winning out of you three Brady I'll save you a trouble I'll answer this for both I don't need you to stuff me in a lock with your answer I would go I would go Brady my dad and me 1, 2, 3 alright Brady who's taking it you or your dad I don't know that would be I feel like there's a mental advantage that dad has in that one he definitely he has me on that aspect he'll probably walk i'll go with him no chance brady i got you i got you you don't have to be nice i got you in that hey thanks bro all right what's the more physical sport hockey or football i mean football because you get hit every single play like hockey there's shifts where you might not get hit you might just be skating around but football it's every single play i will say though the hardest I still have ever been hit is on the ice and multiple times.

47:55Like when you get a hospital pass and you're just going across the middle and you get it open ice, not ready for it. There is nothing that hurts. And I didn't play receiver. Trav has been hit going over the middle. It's gotta be similar to that. Yeah. Like a slant route for me. I'm like, yeah, I don't know if I want to get hit.

48:15That ice is hard. I mean, it's like concrete. That is. I don't know. What do you think, Trav? You've had both. You've had a hospital pass and been hit on a route like that. I didn't play. The hardest I've ever been hit on the ice is, like, against you in practice. It was just – I never – I was like 6 '1", 6 '2 on skates in eighth grade. Like, I was always the biggest kid, so there was nobody really, like, throwing me around yet. Yeah. But, yeah, I've had my fair share of knockout blows coming over the middle for sure. Yeah, I wouldn't know. If the Kelsey's and the Kachucks switch sports, who's better at the other sport?

48:56Dude. For sure, you guys at hockey. There's no chance. You need to watch me try and skate. It's been a long time. You guys have the size. You guys have the size and the intimidation. Brady and I would just be like very. You guys are 6 '2 and 6 '4. What do you mean? You guys are big dudes. Yeah. We'd be very slow compared to everybody. I don't know. What position would you guys play? Let me ask you that. What position do you guys think you would play? Brady's probably built for – you've got a little tight end in you, Brady, I think. Tight end, D end, maybe. I can see that. And then I think I'm linebacker.

49:35Throw that in. Just let him know. Probably middle linebacker. All heart, baby. All heart. A middle linebacker that wants some goal line offensive plays for a touchdown. Here we go. Give me a vocal. Little Mikey Braves in there, man. Who talks the best shit on the ice, man? I mean, Matthew. I know he's tripped me in a game before. I'm like, oh, my God. I have your brother. You just rattled me. So I'm giving him. And like in Calgary, when you chirp, you like go hop on the bike, like in between periods. I'm like, am I conditioning that bad? I just was like, I guess I am really struggling out here.

50:21I just know Brady. I actually do remember. I just know that that would actually affect him. And I can't believe it did. This is great. Yeah. There's, it's surprising. Like there's not much chirping in the NHL anymore. it's just it's kind of like a lost art i mean people just don't really do it that much i think the intimidation factor is is is more of the the chirp itself than the actual words so uh i think i think brady's pretty good at that as well is there a hockey slang that people should use more i feel like if you're around uh hockey players enough you kind of hear like the natural like i don't know like slang and just like lingo that you guys use on the ice and it's like I don't know it's so fun to be around especially when you guys are competing I don't know I just I feel like there's definitely something like that I didn't know if you guys had any uh fun shit for us no I mean the only thing I could think of is like I feel like we always say is like beauty and fella and like oh yeah like that like just what a beauty you're such a beauty and uh that's really all I can like it's so funny though like I feel like when you say that to people though sometimes it could be a chirp it's like oh brady you're a beauty like you're yeah like it's used both ways that's probably that's probably our favorite one because it can mean so many different different ways i guess it doesn't make sense for sure you're such a uh you're last one last one yeah you're a fucking beaut i'll tell you what um the uh we uh we have a stat here for uh through the first 400 games you guys uh lined up with your dad um and the penalty minutes are fucking off the charts through 400 games brady you're at 588 which is fucking ridiculous matthew you're at 395 but your dad is at a staggering 1000 2 ,000.

52:19I mean, he played for 19 seasons. This is through 400 games. How many 10-minute misconducts did he get? That's what I'm saying. I thought I had a lot at the end of the game. I'm telling refs, all right, give me a 10. I'm out of here. But he must have done it every other game. Beat the traffic home. Do you guys think you'll ever catch dad by the end of your careers? I mean, he's got 2 ,000, I think, in total. I mean, he'd get into 1 ,000 to win. but uh but 2 000 is a tough one to beat that's crazy oh man i think i think my dad's most impressive stat is he scored 50 goals which is insane uh he scored it twice in a season but one of the years he had 200 penalty minutes with it so it's like it's like damn dad like you put that number at 100 like you might have scored 60 you would have stayed on the fucking ice day he's gonna be scorn or in the box there's no other option that you he's like fuck i wasn't thinking of that that's my kind of player right there that's my kind of player that's jason uh notoriously leads you know he still has the record for ohio state hockey for uh penalty minutes for cleveland high school no can't tell me any different jason can't tell me until you prove that stat wrong you led the state all right fair enough what's the greatest hockey movie of all time miracle yeah dude it's hard to top one we watched it before the canada game till the in in the first one we had like six of us in like a it was almost like we're back to like youth hockey yeah six guys in my room just watching miracle and it was so awesome dude we fucking loved that movie growing up man my one of my favorites also a sneaky i know i Well, you're right, but one of my sneaky favorites is Mystery Alaska.

54:10Oh, yeah. That one, that one's a sneaky, like, dude, I got to watch that. I haven't seen that one in forever, but that was one of my favorites. That was a great one. I'm still a slap shot. I'm a slap shot guy. You guys are so funny. Hanson Brothers, dude. Did you guys, like, grow up, skate on the outdoor rink ever? Like, did you guys? Never. Never skate on the outdoor. Yeah, so, like, Mystery Alaska is like, it's like a myth to us. It was like a wonder world. Yeah, but yeah, no, it's that's a funny one. Everyone was calling Brady and I, you know, comparing us to that. They had some brothers. They're putting our faces on their bodies.

54:49I thought it was hilarious. I don't know if we were that crazy, but maybe we were a little bit. Dude, those dudes were batshit crazy, man. So fucking good, man. The best is when the ref comes up to them during the anthem and basically saying no antics. They already have bloody noses. all screwed up already. Once again, we got to ask is brought to you by Mentos gum. Well, boys, that does it for us, man. We got nothing for you guys. We got nothing else for you guys. I mean, man, can't thank you enough representing the USA, representing the good brothers of America. Yep. In sports, man, you guys make us, you know, it's, it was so fun watching you guys and still watching you guys, you know, chase after the cup this year, man.

55:34But it's so cool seeing, you know, the family dynamic before the championship of the Four Nations game with your dad, your mom, and you two sitting down. It just, it was so cool for me to relate, knowing that I had something similar with Jason going into the Super Bowl, which was, you know, as close as we ever got on the field. So it was, it's just awesome. You guys do it the right way. You can tell you guys' family is amazing and so happy for you guys, man. Good luck chasing the cup this year and appreciate you guys coming on, man. Thanks a lot, boys. Yeah, thank you for having us. Thanks for having us.

56:05Two beauties. Two beauties right here. Two here, baby. You guys are beauties in the good way, not the bad way. Let's go. We'll see you guys this summer, all right? All right. Sounds good. What a pair of good brothers right there. Absolutely. Dude, I might actually put on a plaque, you know, just be a good teammate and work hard. Dude, seriously. I mean, that's what it's about. And that's what I love about hockey, man. I love the mentality of those guys. Every single one of them is so selfless, man. They represent a league and a sport that just has a great spirit to it. So couldn't be more proud of Team USA.

56:41Even though they didn't pull it out, they fought hard. I mean, listen, they worked hard, and they represented the country well, and they were great teammates. There we go. Bam. I'm fucking with that. You already know, man. And I don't know why, man. I just want to fucking have a few more beers with my guy, Matthew, man. Get Brady down there to Tahoe. That shit would fucking be so cool. What's a good game with mini sticks? You remember how we used to play hockey where you would slap shot the quarter into the can? Dude, yeah. We should just play that game with mini sticks. Mini sticks, get some mini sticks.

57:10That shit would get so dangerous. And then get quarters, and then you just slap the quarter at the can. If you hit the can, you got to drink. Yeah. I think that's an awesome game. I'm with it. We can make it up. I don't give a shit. I got time. I'll tell you, there's something about the world of hockey that I just feel like it's a hidden gem, man. We got to get some more of the greats on here, man. What if we get Wayne Gretzky? you get the great one on here yeah i mean obviously we'll take the best yeah uh man some absolute legends that was one thing i was like so always so jealous of you being in philly of what the flyers to just having being able to go and watch the flyers even going down to xfinity the the year we did uh and watching the game down there that was so much fucking fun man i mean that was one of the few years unfortunately that they made the playoffs they i mean and i love Claude Giroux and I was actually just talking with Scott Hartnell who's back in the area about getting out on the ice because it's been a long time I want to start getting the girls out on the ice but yeah I am all in on interviewing hockey guys yeah and Gretzky he is hockey he's the great one alright perfect well thank you to Matthew and Brady Kachuk you guys are awesome best of luck the rest of the year should we bring a hockey team to Kansas City?

58:28Dude what Fuck yes. I've been fucking on that train for a while. I don't know if Kansas City loves it as much as I do. We got a minor league team. Dude, you said you and Pat Mahomes be a part of the team. I mean, Pat's already doing the women's soccer team, so you guys can just do a hockey team as well. People will show up. We have a minor league hockey team, the KC Mavericks. No, no, no, no, no, no. We need an NHL team. I hear you, dude. What are we calling it? Kansas City. What's a good Kansas City? So what's the minor league team called? Mavericks. The Mavericks? Yeah. It's not bad. It's pretty good.

59:03I know a basketball team, though. Kansas City. What's a really specific Kansas City? I mean, there's obviously barbecue, but there's got to be something else. What is Kansas City? Kansas City cattle? Dude. And you just got the Kansas City Bulls. Dude. Kansas City Beavs? Steers? Oh, steer. here i got the beef is dope that's a great one kansas city beef kansas city beef that's actually fucking great do you know let me ask you this what do you guys refer to when there's like a football slang for offensive linemen out in space do you know what that's called like you see a big fat guy out there in space can't really run very well it's like oh man that guy looks like a cow on ice you've never heard that phrase never in my life have i ever heard that dude that's maybe that's something specific to the o-line room but yeah cows on ice is like on screen you see a bunch of big guys out there they can't really move around kind of look like they're sliding around a little bit cows on ice is what we call them god damn now i want to see what a cow on ice looks like cows on ice dude i'm not gonna lie if you need a minority investor I'll invest in the KC beef.

1:00:22That's actually fucking gold. You think Pat, just Pat like hockey? Pat's here for any competitive sport. Yeah? Yeah, he's here for it all. I don't know if he's ever been to a game, but he definitely got fired up for the Four Nations. That's for sure. I mean, who didn't? He was watching that one, yeah. All right, now. Let's get some No Dumb Questions. No Dumb Questions is brought to you by Intuit TurboTax. Now, this is taxes. All right, from at clode underscore TV. No Dumb Question from down under here. does jay scalesley think that this be a mascot for an insurance company has any resemblance to him this is a very important matter we would love to see trav trav get some love trav get some love um yeah i think the thing looks just like me i mean you're not much of a chucks guy but yeah you that mean that's that's pretty spot on to you same kind of like little like uh little button nose and the where it really makes sense look at the eyebrows yeah the eyebrows are everything that's a dead giveaway this thing eyebrows and the wrinkles on the forehead are a dead giveaway they um they saw you and saw marketing i'm telling you there's something about me that people like to take my likeness with mask gritty i i will take this to my grave gritty was started the year after the parade that thing looks fucking just like me if you were to maskify jason kelsey you make the fuck is gritty it's the it's the flyers mascot and now this thing Look at the hair.

1:01:43That's Ed Kelsey hair right there. Yeah. That's Jason Kelsey, Ed Kelsey hair. That's what your stomach looks like, too. I know. I mean, as of right now, Bo Allen and I are thinking about doing a little fitness challenge. A little Olympic? Well, I might do that. Tell me that thing is not my likeness. Shut the fuck up. They stole it. Look at those eyebrows. It looks nothing like you, dude. You mean to tell me after the parade, the Flyers come out, just so happen to come out with a mascot that looks like that? It looks nothing like you. Your beard isn't like that. Your eyebrows are aggressive, but they're not that.

1:02:18They'll never admit it. This thing is, they fucking modeled this thing after me. You're ridiculous. Shout out to Trev, though. Trev the B. Hopefully his insurance company is fucking killing it. All right. Next up question from at J-Dubs, 83-97. answer this question uh when making a peanut butter and jelly sandwich do you put them on separate pieces or spread them together i am not a psychopath i put uh the jelly on one side and the peanut butter on the other side and then put them together um nobody in their right fucking mind spreads peanut butter and jelly on one slice and then puts a that's just not real nobody fucking does that is that real nobody does that there's no way anybody does that why would you put the the jelly on the peanut do you put so do you put the peanut butter on the jelly you'd have to go jelly on peanut butter right no yeah you have to go you have to do a layer of peanut butter than the jelly if you were to do that but that doesn't make any sense you don't understand you wouldn't get a smooth like easy spread it would be making your job harder it It feels like there's more control and it's easier to determine how much is going on if it's done on different pieces of bread.

1:03:33Yeah, there's something that sounds really off about putting the peanut butter and the jelly on the same side. I mean, I guess that's how I build a sandwich. Like if I'm building like ham, lettuce, tomato, cheese, like all that would be piled on top of the same thing. But then I put the mayonnaise on the bread. But you have to spread. Yeah, you have to, whatever you have to spread, it has to go on like a hard, even surface. Yeah, I think that's right. Yeah, because it's just easier to spread it. You're not like contaminating the layers. Yeah, you're not fucking up your masterpiece. I hate a sloppy sandwich, man.

1:04:11I like my shit nice and fucking perfect. I don't know. I like a sloppy, nice little sloppy cheese steak. You get cheese all over your face. God, that's good. You like that shit with whiz? I like it with American, but I will eat it with whiz. It's actually not bad if you try it. Nacho cheese and bread is ridiculous. I'm not a big whiz, cheese whiz person, but whiz on a cheesesteak isn't bad. I've had it before. Definitely prefer American. Dude, this is another thing. I want to figure out how to make the best burger. There's something about cheeseburgers that I just love. Come on over. I'll teach you.

1:04:45I want Andy to teach me, so I want to teach me. I want Andy Reid to show me the spread. He's got to know the best cheeseburger he's ever had. Yeah, I'm with you. any type of spread goes right on top of the bread on the on bread only yeah yeah anytime you got to spread something you put it on the bread yeah if you're gonna spread put it on the bread there we go it's a simple rule and easy to follow and that does it for no dumb questions brought to you by into a turbo tax you want to get into a little bit of the uh new heights off season tell the 92 percent is what we got coming up or like uh maybe some of the things that uh we have in store or thinking about doing do we have anything in store no we don't so let's just uh let's create it right here just speak things into existence what would be fun is uh going up to green bay going up to green bay for the draft maybe that'd be fun that might be a good time get a few of the uh draftees maybe that are uh um see who's see who's up there um i'm sure there'll be a few familiar faces from the uh the legendary green bay packers that we could finally find a way to get a hold of I'd be in on that.

1:05:52Outside of that, I mean, we said the great one. It would be great to get the great one on here. Maybe even... How about all the great ones? I mean, Jordan. I mean, dude. Oh, Tom Brady maybe? Gosh, that'd be fun to talk to Tom. Yes, I will talk to all these people. Talk to Tom about how he dealt with not winning Super Bowls. Ha! Fuck. Multiple Super Bowls. Yeah, we'll also get some more brothers. We've talked about the Watt brothers before i still think we need to get out on the ice with the watt brothers especially after talking to the kachucks we need to get on the ice with jj and tj and then do a podcast on the ice yeah i'm with that electric i think they'd be in too uh i know i know t uh i know jj would be in yeah he's been skating a bunch yeah no we need to we need to kind of get get our bearings before we go out there we can't go out there looking like a bunch of fucking jimokes what about some golf stuff.

1:06:46We did Tahoe last year. We both like golf. Maybe get Tiger. I mean, Tiger's obviously the funnest name that we could think of. Give my guy Bryson. Give my guy old Brooksy Kepka. There we go. There we go. I know you and John Rob are close ever since you destroyed his range finder. I don't even want to. I love John. John's a great guy. I just, I can't look him in the eyes. I feel like ashamed every time I look at him. Hey, John. You didn't tell anybody about that, this year. Here's the events that I want to do with you. I want to do, draft would be great to do with you if we're up for it. I want to do the derby with Travis Kelsey this year.

1:07:24Now that you're officially a horse owner, I want to do the derby with Travis Kelsey. Come on. I'll show you the reins. All right. Perfect. Don't pun it then. I learned from the best. The Zoldans. The Zoldans are the best. What other events? Stanley Cup? I mean, I'm in on doing the Cup. You know, the Larry O 'Brien intro. We can go to NBA, NHL. We can do all this. We can do all this. So let's just, are we just going to do every event? We can't do every, everybody always tells me I'm overexposed. I can't do everything. Well, what else are you doing right now? I'm kind of like leaving it wide open because everybody keeps telling me to go away.

1:08:01So I'm just going away for a little bit. Yeah. I feel the same way. No, we, we will not go away and we will continue to do this. We will force you to like us. How about this? What about obscure sports? Because you and I both love obscure things. All right. What's obscure, though? Do you want to go hit the Horseshoe Championship in Topeka, Kansas? I've been there, done that. That's a good time. First of all, yes. I do want to do that. Second of all, we've talked about curling. I ran to Jared Allen down in New Orleans after he just got inducted into the Hall of Fame. Nice. He has a curling establishment in Nashville that'd be fun to go visit.

1:08:40I'd fuck around with that. Try your hand curling, then maybe talk to one of the best defensive ends of all time. I'm down to do some interactive stuff, like going – Cornhole. Hobby horsing? We got to comment a hobby horsing tournament. I'm not doing that. That's where I draw the line. Come on, Trev. That's where I draw the line. I'm not going to sit here and make fun of kids, Jason. How else do you comment hobby horsing? How about this? Darts tournament. 180! Come on now. I am so down. I'm so down. You want to go catch some soccer or some international football? Some of the old... I'll go watch some soccer.

1:09:23Catch a premiere game or like Wrexham or Burnley? Burnley, check out JJ Watts. From everything I've seen and heard on Wrexham, I am in. Burnley, I'm in. I'm in on all this. Yes. The key is finding the time. Sounds like we're in on everything. 92 %ers, why don't you guys? Help us narrow this down. What do you think we would be good at? Yeah, we want to do stuff for you guys and what interests you guys over the summer. So out of everything we said or even some stuff that we haven't mentioned yet that you think would be fun for us to go and see or check out or give the inside scoop for you guys, just let us know.

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1:10:36And thanks to our production and crew always. And thank you to the 92 %ers for tuning in. We'll see you guys next week. Fun episode again.

1:10:54Do you listen to sad music when you're depressed or do you listen to happy music? Jason, the only way you can find yourself in the light is to find yourself in the dark first. right i listen to music that is very uh telling of my mood yes i go to like sad country songs yeah i just listen to taylor's music she has something for everything that's fair that's a good point you no matter what mood you can find some taylor music yeah and how the eagles broke my heart no matter how bad i'm feeling there's a country guy that's singing about it and feeling way worse than me and that gives me joy a lot of the times

1:11:39Way to bring it full circle. All right.