Pin Up Jason, Donna Joins The Traitors and Fatherly "Ed-Vice" with Ed Kelce | EP 144

0:00I never got any advice on sex from dad. We never had the birds and the bees talk. No, we didn't. No, we didn't. I did not know how to talk to the girls. You were awkward. You were uncomfortable. Jesus Christ. I wasn't going to say that. I was uncomfortable. You were a little uncomfortable. Yeah. It was AOL Messenger. Who was it? What about it was awkward? Jason, I used to eavesdrop in on your conversations on the phone. You remember when you told me to... No, it's... We got to take that out. We can't do this.

0:35Welcome back to New Heights, ladies and gentlemen, boys and girls. A Wondry show produced by Wave Sports and Entertainment and brought to you by Zillow. Everyone's favorite real estate app. Download the app today. We're your hosts. I'm Travis Kelsey, my big brother, Jason Kelsey. Out of Cleveland Heights, Ohio. Cincinnati Bearcat alumni. Shout out to the Cincinnati Bearcats opening up a new indoor. Subscribe on YouTube, Wondry Plus, wherever you get your podcasts. and follow the show on all social media at New Heights Show with one S. Jason, tell the lovely 92 %ers what we got coming up. We got another great episode for you guys.

1:09First, we're going to try to decide the next movie for New Heights Film Club. We're also going to look at some wild fan mentions as well and get some fatherly advice. Ed-vice. From the one and only Ed Kelsey. That's right, Ed Kelsey's joining us for a little Father's Day special. Yeah, let's get right to it. Let's start with some of that new news. New news. New news is brought to you by Nickelodeon's Kid Choice Awards. What? The party of summer slime. Tune in this Saturday, June 21st at 8, 7 central, live on Nickelodeon. All right, man. How about that? I'm tuned in. You better have the girls watching.

1:50I'm sure they're going to be pumped to see who the next male athlete of the year is. All righty. you can still vote for new heights for favorite podcasts and Travis for a favorite male athlete of the year uh we need that blimp guys I don't know if you're aware I do not have a blimp Travis has many blimps but I would love a blimp blimps are awesome especially when they have the word Nickelodeon tattooed across them in their orange they're gonna be tattooed last new news item weird recording schedule this month Travis will be a mini camp and tight on you I'm gonna be doing stuff down the shore. We got Beer Bowl.

2:25I have a golf inning coming up. We got a bunch of things happening. We got shit going on. It's going to be hard to get together. We do have some recorded guests that we think you guys will really look forward to. Oh, you guys are going to love these guys. That's right. Looking forward to dropping those here in the next coming weeks. And that's it for new news. New news is brought to you by Nickelodeon's Kids Choice Award. The party of summer slime. Tune in this Saturday, June 21st at 8, 7 central, live on Nickelodeon. Yes, sir. Let's move along to some fan mentions. We had some wild, wild mentions this week.

3:02But my favorite mention came with this beautiful tattoo of Jason's bald eagle.

3:11This is wild. I don't really. This is wild. This is, I mean, this is fucking art right here. How does somebody come up with this? the socks the socks and cleats into the elbow pads and gloves what's even do you wear this for kylie at home is there a picture of you like this because this is i mean if they're it if you're ever in this stance i would imagine this is what you look like just so confused on how this is a thing what do you mean okay let's click this link for the backstory because i don't know how one ends up with a tattoo like this here's the backstory uh from ericasmith.educates okay we have an educator here meanwhile i want to know what incredible person got this tattoo hello um and then my little man 07 funny story i'm a giants fan my husband is an eagles fan we made a bet i lost welcome to pin up jason we're not gonna go to joe for this oh my gosh this story makes it even better oh my god from the educator herself erica this is absolutely hilarious so this is pin up jason so a woman lost a bet yep because she's a giants fan that's amazing yeah and she's a woman of her word.

4:40I guess, do we know that it's a woman? How do we know? I thought Kylie told me it was a woman and her name was Lauren. Kylie's got... Kylie's all over this. She was like, what in the fuck is this? Yeah, she wants to see pin up Jason herself. You should just... She does not want to see pin up Jason. One night, you should just... Should I roll into the bedroom like this? Throw on my game socks, my elbow pads, go to the facilities and get my hands and wrist wrist tape put the gloves on oh you know what this is probably a reference to is your uh your espn body mag oh nice i mean i didn't look like this there but you did have the bald eagle over your i did have a bald eagle in that espn body mag i forgot about that yeah how could you forget How could anybody forget the entire starting five?

5:34Yeah, the whole line. Sometimes you block things out that you're not interested in thinking about. Oh, I know. Oh, I know. I mean, listen, I love a good bet. That is a hell of a payoff. Like she has to walk around with that for the rest of her life. Yeah, I mean, I think it's great. I guess it's not that bad. Would you ever get the stat, dude? I mean, if I lost a bet, I would have to. What would be the Travis Kelsey version of this? What? What do you mean? Like if somebody was going to make a provocative Travis Kelsey, you obviously wouldn't have a bird. What would you have? I don't know. Let's leave it to the 92 % because I don't want to talk about that.

6:15Pin up Travis? God damn it, Jason. Why'd you throw me under the bus? I don't know. This is yours. This is your world. If I'm having pictures made of this, if I'm having pictures of me made like this, You need to have a puppy like this. It's not fair. Hey! There we go. There we go. I wish I had shoulders like that. All right. What's his appendage? Is it a dream catcher? Is it a bald eagle? Arrowhead? Sharp and pointy? Do you hear my kids just losing their mind? Of course not. Why would I hear that? I think Elliot needs help. Can I go help Elliot real quick before she loses her mind? Do your thing, man.

7:04Yeah. All right. Now that about does it for the fan mentions of the week. Yeah. Nice pecker, Jason. Moving on to some New Heights Film Club. Hey. Back into the film club. New Heights Film Club is brought to you by Reese's and their new PB &J Cups. Yeah. We're going to have one last installment of the New Heights Film Club before we wrap up this season. And we will have you guys vote on which of these four films we will be reviewing. But first, we need to pick a genre. That's right. We need to figure out what genre we're going to go for. Do we want to do summer blockbusters? Maybe just one of our favorites, Adam Sandler.

7:48Do some Sandler films in honor of Happy Gilmore coming out in July. We can do some summer scaries. You guys want to do some scary movies? Get into some horror films or just some movies that give you fucking nightmares? Like Jaws? Scary movies are fun to revisit because they're absurd. Oh, yeah, especially the older ones? Yeah, like they don't make any sense. Like why? Like just half of them are not even relevant anymore because of technology. Like they'd be so easily solved in like today's age with phones and whatnot. I forget what movie this was, man, but it was about a giant, like, flock of giant mosquitoes.

8:29I know exactly. I forget the name of the movie. Well, the giant mosquitoes was just Jumanji. No, no, no. But there was a movie. This goes way back before Jumanji. Before Jumanji? You're talking about birds? The Alfred Hitchcock movie? It might be. I don't know. because the only other giant insects movie there's another one but it was like a giant spider there was skeeter that's a movie dude that's a mosquito it might be it dude yeah it was literally the biggest fucking mosquitoes ever it used to scare the living shit out of me this is it dude dude that but that's the thing these movies are so fucking ridiculous this shit used to give me fucking nightmares dude i'm kind of in on an obscure film that a lot of people haven't seen i like indie films and like stuff that's just like kind of like off the you ever seen bird box bird box is good yeah sandra completely ridiculous i there was so good like there were two my dog kills is in there man there were two like movies where like the people couldn't seen couldn't see and i just could not bring myself like bird box which was it was a fun watch but Like, it's so ridiculous.

9:43Like, you can't see anything, and you're going to get all this, like, get the fuck out of here. I'm not buying it. And then the one that was even worse, I think it was C. I think it was an Apple TV. Oh, it was still a good watch. It can't be bad. It was horrendous. They're running through the woods, Travis. I challenge you right now. Blindfold yourself and run through the fucking woods. You will not make it further than about 20 feet, all right? No, I'll figure it out. You are going to hit something. No. Somebody thought of this idea like it was good, and I thought it was the worst fucking thing on the planet.

10:10It was the stupid. It was – I couldn't do it. I don't know why. It was awful. It was an awful show. It was really, really bad. I don't even know which one you're talking about. I'm talking about C. Yeah, I don't think that's what I'm talking about. But they couldn't see, but they somehow could still run through the forest. All right, so what do you want to do? Do you want to go down scaries? Do you want to do Sandler films? Do we want to just leave it up to the 92 percenters? This is what I think. Our most successful and fan-appreciated versions of these, just going to put it out there, have been either movies that females typically watch or movies that need to be reimagined in like a grown-up capacity.

10:48Like Sandlot was okay, but we didn't really – it didn't have like a lot of like changes from the last time we've seen it. I think we need to watch something that we haven't – we both have not seen potentially ever in a movie that is really popular that a lot of other people have seen. But we need to watch it where most people saw it as a child and we are now seeing it as fully developed adults. So as long as the movie meets that criteria, I'm in on it. Yeah. Well, good luck meeting all that criteria. Does that make sense, Brandon? No, it makes all the sense in the world. What you're saying definitely makes sense, but I just don't know.

11:23Yeah, I don't have that movie off the top of my head. We're going to have to somehow create a genre. Well, let's look at movies that were big in the 90s. Okay. That Travis and I just haven't seen. 90s rated R blockbusters is like kind of the search here. There you go. That's a start. It's a start. It's a start. Animal House is one. I think that was more 80s, though. I mean, they're throwing us Terminator 2, Matrix, Pretty Woman, The Rock. It's so fucking good. I mean, I don't think I've seen Pretty Woman. Oh, that could be it. I think that one would be big. Pretty Woman would be big for us. People would appreciate that review, I think.

11:59Pretty Woman would be big for us. Pretty Woman. I think I actually saw this not too long ago. I think I have seen it, but I can't remember it. It's been a minute. Goodfellas is a great one. Goodfellas would be a great recap, especially living on the East Coast now. Jerry Maguire, that's kind of interesting as a professional athlete. The Bodyguard, eh. Speed is so good. Speed is ridiculous. Speed is so good. Dude, honestly, we should review Tremors if we're going to go with a movie that's like a horror, but I've already seen them. But Total Recall, great movie. Fantastic movie. Yeah, yeah. But we've seen it.

12:36Doesn't meet the criteria. year. I'm kind of in on Pretty Woman being one of the choices. Alright, so Pretty Woman's one. Pretty Woman's one. Dude, 90s teenage movies. 90s teenage movies. Clueless. Oh, no thank you. I mean, I've seen it. 10 Things I Hate About You. American Pie would be fucking hilarious. American Pie would be funny to go back. Now getting half of the references. Okay. Pretty Woman. She's All That is... I'd go back to that one. I fucking love that movie. Wild Things. Remember sneaking into that one. I need pictures with these. I don't... I'm the worst. God damn it. I don't remember any of these.

13:14Faculty's good. All right, we've got one so far. What about Wild Wild West? Ugh. I mean... I don't... I don't like that people don't like that movie. I fucking love that movie. I think it's secretly a great movie that people have just decided to shit on. But you got to admit it's like such a dud after I think like the two previous Will Smiths were Men in Black and Independence Day. You got to admit that's like a little bit of a drop. Of course. But it's here's my thing. I think you don't shit on Jim Carrey for making the mask and fucking Ace Venturas. This is my only argument. If you remade Wild Wild West.

13:52And then go. If you're going cable guy. If Quentin Tarantino remade Wild Wild West, it'd be a fucking banger of a movie. Quentin Tarantino's Wild Wild West would be so funny. this like it's a bad plot like robots fucking like i i think the whole thing is fucking like it's ridiculous i i know there's a guy with no legs there's a giant spider i i vaguely recall there's like a uh chase in a cornfield and that's i mean it's what i like about movies it's completely ridiculous and i feel like wild wild west to the list i mean i'm kind of feeling there's two it does not meet the criteria i laid out oh my your criteria nobody knows what criteria yeah we're gonna be here for the rest of the night thread this needle i kind of like throwing a bunch of just like randoms in there and like letting the 92 percenters dictate it should we just put the tweet out let's just put the tweet out okay the criteria is travis and i can never have seen it.

14:55How would they know this? They don't. We're going to get replies, though, and there's going to be some that we haven't seen. All right. Jake, are you taking notes? It's got to be a movie that we haven't seen. Haven't seen. It's got to be... What was the other criteria? It had to be, like, from your childhood, so people haven't seen it in a very long time was the other criteria. Yes. It's got to be, like, a movie that is child-centric, that a lot of people have not seen since they were children okay but all right or do you not like that criteria we can throw that criteria out not everybody was a child when we were a child most people don't count those people don't count we don't count them there's movies like brink that were watched by exclusively children at the time like grown-ups were not watching brink brink would probably be a tough watch brink's a great movie it's one of the only disney movies that's held up brink is fantastic okay that's up and such are you kidding me all right should we just do brink no it sounds like you should we just do disney made-for-TV movies from the 90s.

15:57Could do that. That's going to get a lot of people going. Where are we netting out here? I don't know. I don't know. I kind of like the idea of just asking the 92 %ers to submit movies, and the rule is we can't have seen it. That leaves it vague enough. Just give us movies that you think would be funny to have us review. Give us movies. We will decide on this end, and we will let you know which one we pick. Do you like that idea, Travis, or do you not like that idea? Yeah, let's do it. We got Travis in. All right. You guys send us ideas. we'll go through them we'll pick one and we'll let you guys know what the pick is for july film club jason is there any more criteria you want i don't think so i think that makes sense i think the idea of reviewing a movie that was mostly seen as people as kids as adults sounds interesting to me because you watch it under a different lens and most people are going to remember it from their time as children yeah could also just do brink i don't know i kind of like that idea Yeah, Puppin Suds.

16:51Could do Brink. We mentioned Pretty Woman. That's been on me and Tay's movie list for a while. I'm down to watch that. A movie I think is very underrated, Wild Wild West. I fucking love Wild Wild West and Wild Wild West 2. There's Wild Wild West 2? Yeah. There's not a second Wild Wild West. Fuck yeah. Is this real? You kidding me? I think the second one's got Owen Wilson in it or something. I forget which one is which. Are you thinking of the movie with Jackie Chan where him and Owen Wilson are... Shanghai Nights. Shanghai Nights? I might have been. God damn it. I thought there were two Wild Wild Wests.

17:31Oh, shit, there is. Oh, wait, no. I think that's just Wild Wild Wests. Yeah, you're right. Top question on Reddit. Wasn't there a Wild Wild West 2? Was there not? the literal answer is realized we were thinking of shanghai noon oh gosh oh my gosh that is fucking how many people think shanghai noon is just a sequel to wild wild west dude shanghai noon also a good-ass movie that one i wouldn't mind reviewing shanghai noon i don't remember it as well as i think i remember he pees on his shirt to bend the bars fuck oh man there might have been two shanghai noons you said this shirt you said this shirt doesn't break not piss shirt bend bars how do you remember this i'm a big jackie chan fan dude we could even just do like uh some jackie chan movies if you ever what's the one that's fucking not escape from new york there's another one.

18:36Rush Hour? What do you mean? No, no, no. There's so many good Jackie Chan movies. That is rookie, rookie Jackie Chan. You got Drunken Master. You got, oh my gosh, what is the movie where they're running around New York and it's fucking insane. Oh, it's so ridiculous of a movie. Gosh, you're making me want to, all right, here, let's just get out of this. Big Trouble in Little China? Is that it? Most absurd Jackie Chan movie. That's what you're typing in. I do love Drunken Master Drunken Master is a great one Rumble in the Bronx Alright so basically 92 % There's really no criteria We don't necessarily know exactly What you guys want us to review So we just want a little bit of a reference So we can start to narrow this thing down Send in all your requests We'll peek over them And get back to you guys with which movie The New Heights Film Club will review And that does it for New Heights Film Club Brought to you by Reese's and their new PB and J cups.

19:37All right. Before we get to Papa Kelsey, there's something we need to disclose. He's from a different time and era. People viewer discretion is advised. We don't know what this fucking guy's about to say. I mean, I just got to be honest with you. He's a wild card. He is one of the nicest, most genuine people on the planet. Not a negative bone in his body. It's just. You know what? Anybody with a grandpa knows something. All right, here we go. We're going to get Kelsey out here. Hope you guys enjoy this. All right. Father's Day was this past Sunday. So we're bringing the only man who can help us out with some Heights hotline.

20:16Father's Day. Edvice. Shout out to Twitter user Eva G for coming up with the name Edvice. Eva G on Twitter. Will this be on a regular episode or just a Wondery Plus episode? I would love some Edvice. Nice. advice from ed kelsey live from not gonna lie studios we have ed kelsey joining us dad how we doing we're doing great we're doing great good shirt choice appreciate your studio shout out to kai for getting this nice and set up dad you look great good you got the wings going i should take my hat off and put get my wings showing a little bit jason you just got the You talking about the longer hair?

20:57These are like the wings from the Flying Nun. The Flying Nun. I don't know that reference. That must have been an 80s or 70s reference right there. What's the Flying Nun? More like 65, 64. Sally Field was a nun, and she wore one of those hats with the wings, and the wind would come by and lift her in the air. Oh, wow. Oh! Whoa! The Flying Nun. Now we get it. Wow. There you go. Did she invent the cookies? Is that Sally Fields? What's the cookie I'm thinking of? Famous Amos? No, Mrs. Fields, no. She did not make Mrs. Fields cookies. Okay. All right. Sorry. All right. We've gone down a rabbit hole already.

21:36All right. I guess, where do we start? Dad, what do you think of Father's Day? Let's start off with there. What do I think of it? Yeah. What are your thoughts on Father's Day? My thoughts on Father's Day is a celebration of your kids. Yeah. Oh, all right. All right. And how happy you are. Nice. I'll celebrate to that. And what a great job you did as a dad. Yeah. Or doing, right? There's still this. Do you ever stop being a dad? Do you consider yourself dad still? Oh, yeah. Yeah. How? 100%. Jason, he was just fathering you two seconds ago into getting your ass in there to see a doctor about your sleep apnea.

22:13Yeah, I'm not going to do a doctor. They don't know what they're talking about. How is being a dad different at this stage as opposed to being a dad? You don't know what they're talking about. When we were like Wyatt Bennett's and Elliot's age. And Finn. Sorry, Finn. A lot more relaxing. At this stage, everything's just a lot of fun. Less work. You're not fretting about how they're doing in school, how they're treating teammates, how things are going in the neighborhood with them, how much trouble they got into that can be directly tracked back to you. What do you fret about these days between Travis and I?

22:51Between Travis and you, or not much. Not much? I think you're doing great. Okay. Yes. So you do think that Father's Day is a real holiday. Jason, do you think Father's Day is a real holiday? I think Father's Day is, I think, yes, first of all, it's a real holiday. Anything that celebrates parents and family and raising children in this world should absolutely be celebrated. Okay. I think that Father's Day and Mother's Day is celebrated across every nationality in some way. Actually, there's a really good way that the Germans celebrate. We mentioned this last year on the podcast. I would love to do this with dad one day.

23:30You know how Germans celebrate Father's Day, Pop? No. Tell me. The family drops them off at like a woods, and they have a wagon that is filled with beer and different types of meats and sausages. and the dads just wander up into the mountains with a bunch of beer and sausages and they hang out together for a day. And then they come back to meet their families afterwards. I'll tell you what. That sounds pretty fun. We can wander back to the pool and do the same thing. There we go. Perfect. There we go. We've got to go to the way. We'll just get a wagon and ceremony and walk out backyard. Dad, mom's in traders.

24:06What? No, we can't say this. Oh, it's already. It's public. It's public. Rumored. Rumored. Rumored. What? It's public now? It's public. Allegedly. I was lectured by your mother not to talk about it. Okay. Well, can we record something for when we can say this? What do you think are mom's chances? Chances of what? Of winning. Winning what? Do you understand? I have no idea what she's doing. So this is the premise of this. It's a game show. It takes place in Scotland. Basically, there's a group of people, and there's two people in that group, or a select amount of people are traders, which are people that can eliminate other people week by week.

24:45And the group of individuals that aren't the traders need to try and devise who the traders are before the traders eliminate all of the non-trader contestants. What? I'm sorry. All right. Perfect. So what do you think mom's chances are of winning such game show? Haven't got a fucking clue. Don't know? Okay. I don't know. I'm not a reality TV show type person. That's not true. You used to love, what's that? What were the history ones? What was the one where they used to bid on the freaking - Oh, Storage Wars. Storage Wars? You were big Storage Wars. Never saw that in my life. I never saw, I mean, I've seen it on TV, but I haven't sat down and watched it.

25:33Storage Wars. I used to sit there and watch, what's the - No, we watched the two guys. We watched the two guys that went around hunting for junk. Yep, the American Pickers. Then you used to watch the Vegas one with the Chumlee. What's the – Oh, the Vegas. Oh, yeah, yeah. Yeah. So don't give me this. Don't give me this. You're not a reality TV guy. Pawn stars. Don't act like you're above reality TV. You used to sit down and watch Jackass with us. Yeah. What? As I recall, I was pretty much adamantly opposed to jackass. Yeah, no, I think that's accurate. I'm pretty sure. Oh, man. But you were missing out.

26:14Yeah. Oh, yeah. Your loss. I want to get Ed Caisley's reaction to this photo. All right. Brandon, you know exactly what photo I'm talking about. I have no idea what photo, so you're going to get my reaction, too.

26:34did somebody actually do that this is this is tattooed on a woman i think her name is lauren's arm uh yeah no this is a bet that somebody lost and they have this tattooed permanently under there permanently that's not a henna i mean i think you could take take them off these days But no, I think that's an actual tattoo. Oh, what do you think? Immediate reactions. Immediate reaction? Yeah. Fucking loony. You know, what else can I say? This is provocative. I saw that on social media, and that's a cringeworthy. Cringe? Even without it being on somebody's arm, just the picture itself. I've never heard the word, you use the word cringe.

27:19So this is a new territory. I think it's pretty accurate. I've never seen anything that. It's made you feel like that, huh? Yeah, that's right. I don't think I look half bad, if I'm being honest. I think it's a pretty, they did me a solid. This might be the best you've ever looked. You can take that off the screen now. Fair enough. I have to ask Kai that one, though. All right, let's get to some Heights Hotline, man. Let's get to the fun stuff, baby. We're going to listen to some voicemails, Dad, that our viewers and listeners have sent us asking for parent advice. And normally Travis and I answer them, but we always wish you were here to do this because we know you would answer them far better than we can.

28:03Yeah. This one is titled Unwritten Rules with Dad. Hey, Jason. Hey, Travis. Huge fan of the show. So my question, my no-dumb question is, what was, like, an unwritten rule you had with your dad growing up? One of my unwritten rules I had always with my dad was when I'd be in the car with him, it would be nothing but his music he loved, 70s, 80s rock, 90s rock. Sounds like a good dad. And we always watched football games together. And that was like our big, like two big unwritten rules was that. I hope you have a good day. Go Steelers. Oh, there we go. Go Steelers. The Yins are action. We didn't have any written rules.