Travis on Crucial Drop, Jason's Tired of Talkin' Tush & Fightin' Grandma with Jimmy Fallon | Ep 154

0:00So you never played growing up? did you play at all wow okay my friends had like every thanksgiving they would have this kind of like uh thanksgiving bowl the different families would play yeah and i remember i joined that once my dad was not uh sporty so stickball stickball yeah and he would talk about fistfights yeah i don't know that's not a fun sport yeah that's an electric thanksgiving hey what are we gonna do today Come on, Grandma! Come on, Grandma! Come on! My Grandma can take a punch, man.

0:38Welcome back to New Heights, ladies and gentlemen, boys and girls. A Wondery Show brought to you by Reese's Oreo Cups. That's right, that delicious peanut butter cup with the Oreo cookie inside. I love this! We are your hosts. I'm Travis Kelsey. This is my big brother, Jason Kelsey, out of Cleveland Heights, Ohio. Shout out to the Tigers. Shout out to the Bearcats. Steam rolling Northwestern State. Shout out to the boot. No, I ain't hating on nobody. Shout out to Northwestern State down there in the boot. But the Bearcats were rolling, baby. We put up a bunch of points. So let's go, Cats. Keep this thing rolling.

1:12I think we got Kansas in two weeks, man. They come out here to play the Jayhawks, man. That'll be a fun one to talk to everybody in the surrounding areas. Subscribe on YouTube, 1-3 +, wherever you get your podcasts. and follow the show on all social media at New Heights Show with one S for fun clips throughout the week. And Jason, as we always do, please tell everyone what we have coming up in this episode of New Heights. Well, 92 %ers, we're going to talk a little bit of a Chiefs-Eagles game at Arrowhead. We're also going to get into the rest of week two and check in on the Heights Hotline and answer some of your no-dumb questions.

1:46But first, let's get to a special edition of New. No news. Here to help us with this special edition from the College of St. Rose. You know him from his six years on Saturday Night Live as the Emmy Award-winning host of The Tonight Show or as the guy who threw Travis's putter into a lake in Las Vegas. Please welcome Mr. Jimmy Fallon. Oh, my goodness. I am so happy to be here. Honored. this is gonna be a good one this is gonna be a good nice and long one let's go yeah let's crush it thanks for having me this is incredible i'm such a big fan of the show first time caller i'm just so excited to be here dude i love it and jimmy thank you for throwing that thing away i i haven't missed as many putts i'm still missing putts but that putter is that you throwing that in the lake made my life so much better on the golf course thank you can i just tell the story just so anyone who hasn't heard it.

2:52I would love to hear it because I've heard Travis's version of this, but I would love to hear Jimmy's version of this. So I think this is the first time we ever met Travis, right? Yes. Yes. At 8 a.m. We didn't know each other yet. We're at a golf tournament. Justin Timberlake does this golf tournament in Vegas. We're playing this, this course and, and we're it's, it's Travis and Patrick Mahomes versus me and Justin Timberlake. And it's, and it's great. And gosh, you guys are really good. And I think you ended up winning. You won the whole tournament, but you didn't like your putts you were putting terribly it was horrendous it was bad pat did all the putting that day yes yeah and you were like dude but we were having fun uh i i got that i was like dude we're totally hitting it off it was great do you remember i had a crazy chip in shot out of the bunker the devil's butthole dude i haven't called a bunker anything but that bunker so i sank it it was unbelievable uh right from the bunker into the hole it's great so we're on the 17th hole i want to say and there's it's a hole surrounded by water and then uh you missed the putt and it was kind of and you go darn it i missed the putt again like it's just been terrible today and so i looked at you and i said like hand it over give it to me yeah give it i'm thinking that he's going to give me the ball and i was going to take his ball and throw the throw the ball in the lake yes yeah so i go give it to me and he we don't really know each other so he just gives me his putter like oh he's gonna show me how to do this there's a crowd of people watching jason so i my brain had to make a quick decision like yeah do what do i give it back and explain that i wanted or just throw the putter just roll with it like i just roll with them like and i whipped the putter into the lake and he looked at me like dude what what are you thinking what is wrong with me at that point though i was like oh i'm free yeah i mean honestly it sounds like you did you a favor get rid of that fucking thing that putter was not whatever it was the worst thing ever dude but it was you're like dude what and i go and even timberlake was like why would you do that bro like that's so rude i go yeah because i'm like i didn't even know you but you were worried about it and laughed about it and uh i think that putter is still at the bottom of the lake never made it out nope the wind ended up naming it after me saying you gotta to know when to fold them and you gotta you gotta know when to hold them yeah yeah is it travis lake or is it like yeah lake travis over there to win anybody you can go over to the way if you end up playing the wind golf course it's right there on between 17 and 18.

5:24they should put they should remember forever man they should put and install a gopro camera underwater like a live stream of just fish swimming past your putter yeah why not i mean next time jimmy just do us all of and just throw Travis into the league. That's how you elevate this. Yes, yes. I'm going to be checking my six every single time. Hey! Let's go! Let's go! 15.87 Prime. Dude, if you ever find yourself in Kansas City, dude. I got a nice football that was sent to me from Travis for the new steakhouse. It's officially happening. Just launched. It's officially happening, yeah. Actually, as this airs, the day this airs on Wednesday, it'll be up and running.

6:05It'll be the first day open to the public. Are you working on planning the wedding? Are you doing this now? Is that the next move? Yeah, that's the next step. That's the next step in it all. Don't stress about it. I remember thinking about it with my wife. That one's going to be easy. I just got to figure out when a football game first. Yeah, you got to do one of that. It would be easy compared to trying to figure out how to fucking catch a goddamn football. Yeah. Are you going to do DJ or band? Are you thinking about all this stuff? Yeah, I think we're live music kind of people, you know? I've seen you perform.

6:37You have to. Oh, that's right. 8 a.m. 8 a.m. You did ACDC live with the band. It was one of the best things I've ever heard. Jason, you must have seen Travis. I've seen all of them. You've seen all the moves. I've seen these all growing up. He's always had this in his bag. He's been a man of entertainment since the beginning. So this is not surprising. I just go up there and I send it. I'm no Mustang Sally when Jimmy gets up there. You know what I'm saying? That one, I really, ooh, yeah, I really. You looked at him and told him what chord to be in and everything, and which, like, I was just like, oh, I don't know.

7:13You look so much more professional up there. I was just like, you said something to the band. All right, A minor. Can you see it? No more fun. No more fun. Can you see? And I better look good right now. Yeah. And you know who never sings? Timberlake. JT, dude. He gets out of it every year, and I go, dude, this is, you are a singer. everyone is here to see you potentially sing yes i will say this he asked me this past year to do a duet did i go up there with him what you didn't do it dude i was so shit-faced i was so hammered i was like no no no i can't go up there i can't do it you know i won't be able i won't sound good i can't even see the words from the stage so jt i got you next year though i'll i'll sober up by the time karaoke comes around and i'll follow that we're open for you guys i i i know uh we're gonna talk about some some some football stuff but i also when we get to it i brought some questions for you guys as well oh perfect well over prepared let's get to it right now let's jump into it so first of all can you give us a new news we have a new news call we would love to have a jimmy fallon version of our new news call so typically we'll say new news whatever artistic this is your freedom to lead us into this segment new news new news new news perfect with the delay it's nailed it it sounds very hard it sounds like three white people clapping we'll mirror it up my new news is I have a brand new show called On Brand It's on NBC.

8:58It's a business reality competition show. If you like Shark Tank meets The Apprentice meets Project Runway. You dig this. Tuesday, September 30th, after The Voice. And it's super fun. It's like marketing. This is really interesting. This is the best new news we got today, baby. Let's go. This is sweet. Hell yeah. Yeah, it turned out great. It's like all these people from around the country, and they come up with ideas for, like, say, Duncan. like what what is your uh what is your uh new campaign new marketing campaign blah blah we have therabody uh we have southwest airline we just went all through all these different brands and some of these ideas are fantastic oh i can't wait some are terrible but that's what makes the show that's when you come up with good ideas you have to have the terrible ideas along the way to come up with that dude i was hoping for bad ideas because i go sometimes when i watch like american idol i don't even make it to the end of the show i want to watch the bloopers or the bad auditions at the beginning.

9:53And I'm like, that's the best part. Let's go, baby. It's still good branding. So this - William Hung. William Hung. She bangs. William Hung is what I wanted. I'm like, please, someone. So I got one the first episode. This woman who was a real estate agent. You got your William Hung. I got my William Hung. She's pitching an idea for Duncan. And she's like, y 'all, I know y 'all have munchkins. But what I think you should have is a munchbox.

10:23you're munching on your munch box and you're munching on your box and you're munching and she keeps saying innocently by the way and i'm crying dude i'm like a kid in the playground i'm like oh my and she keeps saying like it's like what's in your munch box what's in your box well i'm just munching away and i and i go stop saying this is insanity and the guy and the guy from Duncan looked at me like, is this show for real? Are we going to get all bad ideas like this? It was like, I don't know, dude. It was the funniest thing ever, and you'll see it in the first ep, but it was like, turned out great.

10:59I cannot wait to watch that. That sounds epic. Yeah, so that's happening, but then we're also doing Sunday night tonight shows after football on NBC, which is a big deal for us. The first one is September 21st. It's the Chiefs versus the Giants. Yeah, coming up this weekend, baby. Coming up this weekend. Let's go, baby. Now, what if you get your first win, then right into Jimmy on Fallon? Let's go. Come on now. So we're doing four of these special post-Sunday Night Football shows, right? Yeah. And what is the, I guess, what is that going to entail? Is it like interviews and like you guys just talking ball?

11:38What is it? No, it's going to be kind of like the normal Tonight Show. We got big guests. Like this weekend, we have Matthew McConaughey and Eric Church. Okay, nice. But we're going to talk about – Matthew, big football guy. I'm sure church is – University of Texas, I think. Yep. Is that McConaughey? But we'll talk about – we'll have some football jokes in the monologue up top, maybe some sports-themed something in there just so that football fans have something to watch after the game. Because sometimes you watch the game, even if sometimes it's Super Bowl, they go, and stay tuned for America's favorite dog.

12:12And you go, what? that's the worst interesting segue yeah what is it's like yeah i'm still all jacked up from that finish in the football game i'm trying to see some more about this game that just happened yeah yeah so let's see exactly i'm in the party mood yeah i want to hear church i want to keep the party going i don't want to yeah yeah like america's next best uh tap shoe and we're gonna invent a tap shoe you go wait why are you airing this after football this is odd so anyway so it's gonna be fun we have four shots at it uh this this weekend's the first big one and i'm uh i'm excited i mean it's new york which is where i'm from but you know i i got it my my heart's with the kelseys so we want them over well i guess is there any way we can either help you prepare for talking ball or how how ready do you feel to discuss football after sunday night so not ready at all the worst i'm so bad to mike tariko uh let me uh be a commentator during the closing ceremony of the olympics on nbc and i realized how hard that job is oh well mike makes it seem really easy he is so fucking good at it yeah i kept talking like i was i didn't want any dead air at all and i was sweating flop sweating i was like yeah these olympians are great mike they're swimming in the swimming pool.

13:37And the water, water. And he was looking at me like, stop talking. At one point, he just grabbed my hand and he squeezed my hand like, stop. It's going to be all right. Just stop talking and let these athletes speak for themselves. Dude, it was the hardest gig ever. So, yes, I need some help. Give me some lingo or what do I talk about? There's going to be no talk about tush pushing. So what else? It's a hot topic right now in the NFL. Hot topic, hot topic. But the Giants and the Chiefs, You guys are not pushers. We're not pushers. No, we're not pushers of the tush. No, you're not pushers of the tush.

14:11The Giants, is this going to be a running game? Is this going to be a passing? Well, the Giants just threw for like 450 yards this past week against Dallas. Russell Wilson went off. Russell Wilson, my man. I love that, dude. Two big time quarterbacks. So I think we're going to be airing it out this weekend. Okay. Okay. All right. Now, what did you do? Like a 7-10 coverage? Is that what we're talking about? 7-10 coverage. Coverages typically don't go higher than 4. Everything I learned about football I know from John Madden. Nice. That's a good start. Dude, that is a great start. That's how I learned everything.

14:49Who was your team in Madden? Houston Oilers. Warren Moon. Warren Moon. Warren Moon. Let's go, man. I love his last name is Moon. He had number one on the jersey. I'm like, what's cooler than that? That was very cool. All my friends are like, why? Dope colors. Yes, it was the best. But my dad didn't know anything about football. And so he was from Brooklyn. And so he knew about like, you know, stickball and like fist fighting. And fist fighting. No, so I really knew nothing about football. I had a Nerf football. We used to play, you know, in high school. I think I tried out for the team. But it was one of those small towns that if your dad didn't work for the team, you weren't going to get picked yeah and so i didn't get picked and also i'm not that athletic but i remember i had a nerf football and i bought a helmet and shoulder pads at a garage sale oh yeah what and i had a chain link fence and i would wear this shoulder pads and a helmet with a nerf football and this is by myself i would i love it i had no one to pass to i had no one to i was by myself throwing the ball in the air and catching it and then running so you never played growing up no my friends had like every thanksgiving they would have this kind of like uh tournament almost like a uh thanksgiving bowl they called it they were on cherry lane so they called the cherry bowl and all the dads would come out and play against the other dads and the different families would play yeah and i remember i joined that once my dad was not uh sporty so stickball stickball yeah and he would talk about fistfights yeah i don't know that's not a fun sport that's an electric thanksgiving hey what are we gonna do today.

16:31Come on, grandma! Come on, grandma! Come on! My grandma could take a punch, man. The best. My neighbor would be fighting my grandma. Yeah, why not? What a great Thanksgiving. It's fun. What a great Thanksgiving. Everyone's got a black eye cutting into the turkeys. I have some questions for you guys. Oh, come on. Shoot. Without naming the coach, What is the worst halftime speech you've ever heard? Oh, man. So in college, Jason, remember this. Oh, yes. This is a great poll. This is one of our favorite ones. You want to do the honors? I don't know if I can. We're playing like crap against. We're supposed to be kicking the crap out of like this lower division school or whatever.

17:20And we're not playing well through the first half. And we come in for halftime and we're just getting motherfucked left and right. And he's like, it's like zero motivation. There's no motivation. It is just ripping ass. I don't know who the fuck you guys think you are going out there and performing like it. It's just like an ass-chewing. Deservedly so. And then at some point, he was so mad. There was like recruits. So at college games, a lot of times there's recruits that are there like, hey, this is how we do it at Cincinnati. Come and check us out. This is what the halftime. Come to our school.

17:53You'll love it. And in the middle of this rant, this coach goes, He sees this kid in the back and the kids wearing his high school jersey and his jersey is number 53. There were two kids, though. There were two kids. One kid looked like he should already be in the NFL. The kid that he saw looked like he shouldn't even be playing high school football. Like it was kind of like, oh, yeah, bring your buddy in. And like kind of like they're wearing their jersey, their high school jerseys in the locker room and everything. And in the middle of this entire rant, he's crushing us. He makes somehow he makes eye contact with this poor kid in the back of the room.

18:25and he says, who the fuck is 53?

18:32And the kid goes pale. He's like, he just saw a ghost. All eyes from around the room turned right to him. And he's got 50. He looked at his jersey like he didn't know what number he was anymore. You guys told me to come here. What do you think?

18:54that's so funny man that was wild that was a great one yeah oh i have a a question i think would be very out of the big four sports uh football baseball basketball and hockey but which athletes are the biggest partiers take your time in this i'm going to write down my guess oh i i think i already have the answer what kind of partying like drinkers or like yeah probably everything you didn't after it the most getting after who gets after yeah so football baseball basketball hockey what do you think jason i think it's hockey by far baseball maybe yeah yeah yeah i wrote down hockey there's there's some baseball guys i can get after it football there's football guys that can get after it but there's a whole nother side of football that like doesn't do it at all hockey pretty routinely yes i agree like those dudes are out and about in a great way and scary almost to a certain point where you go i'm gonna they played stickball and fist fought when they grew up yeah exactly your grandma i mean thanksgiving yeah come here grandma yeah any sport where it's like a badge of honor to be missing teeth and those guys get after it typically get after it i used to live down the street from my man claude jeroux and i would hang out with a bunch of the flyers when uh they were all there and scott hartnall and those guys and dude um jeroux every time we were out he just wanted to arm wrestle me i'm like dude can we just like drink and have fun i don't want to arm wrestle right now this is like a lose lose for me if i lose to you you're like twice i'm twice your size i look like i suck and if i beat you i'm just like this meat head arm wrestling another guy in the bar i just no i just i was friends with one ranger and he i came to a game he goes let me know where you are because i'm going to punch someone or get in a fight with someone the first period and look at you because for you i'm going to punch him but i go don't do that for me i don't what are you talking about dude i'm just here to watch and he did he grabbed some dude as soon as they started just started and then found me in the garage that's epic i didn't ask for this of course not you think you had to feel pretty honored when it happened though i was right i felt pretty tough yeah i looked at a couple of grandmas i was about to say it was like when grandma knocked out your neighbor like jimmy That's for you.

21:14I'm thankful for you. It's so good. Travis, for the next touchdown you score, would you be willing to do a special celebration to let me know you're thinking of me? Almost like that hockey dude. I mean, I feel like it's got to be the same thing. We got to go fist fight in New York. I'm fighting somebody. I was thinking this. I'm going to take my gloves off and just jump into the crowd. Sit down in the end zone with your legs crossed. pretend that you're holding a saucer and sit from a teacup with your pinky out. Okay. Deal. That is, are you kidding me? The Zen I will feel in that moment is going to be so perfect.

21:53I like you firing in the nearest grandma and just cold cocking her. That's what I like. You, Grady. You. Jimmy! That's for you, Jimmy! There's going to be people who dress up as grandmas. You know it. Everyone is going to be wearing a wig and dressed like grandmas and wearing the sweaters and all that stuff. I'm going to get a fine and it's going to be worth every penny. Jimmy, is there anything else as far as football is concerned that you feel like you want to discuss? You feel pretty revved up about this? I'm excited about this. I just don't want to get too into it that it seems like I'm fake because I only know my knowledge is only from really watching the games and playing John Madden football.

22:33I'll tell you this. I think there's enough people trying to get really in the weeds or acting like they know football. We need people that know they don't really know football and just enjoy talking about it. That's what we need. Just enjoy watching the game, watching guys get their fucking head taken. It's a different perspective. I can't wait to watch this. This is going to be so much fun. It's going to be good. It's going to be fun. It's a party. Keep the party going after the game. That's what it's about. And Travis, this is the win. This is the first one. Come on, baby. This is what I'm talking about, dude.

23:02This is what we've been waiting for, okay? People are watching. Enough is enough. Hide your grammars in New York, motherfuckers. Don't be a 53. Don't be a 53. Travis Kelsey has gotten in for his third score. He's already knocked out two older ladies. Let's see if he goes for a third. Hat trick, baby. I'm going for the hat trick. Jimmy, thank you so much, brother. Check out Jimmy this Sunday after the game, after the Chiefs-New York Giants game. Can't wait to watch it, man. I'll be on a plane watching it, enjoying every minute of it, man. You guys are the best. Keep up the good work. And any time, I'd love to come back, and you can come on the show and whatever.

23:43Keep up the good work. You guys are the best. Bye, Jay. You're the best. Appreciate it. Thank you, guys. Thank you to Jimmy Fallon for hopping on. That was fucking incredible. You're the man. I love that guy. And then the last bit of new news, We have a very special guest episode dropping Monday, September 22nd. Oh, yeah. Should we reveal who it is? I don't know. Should we leave a surprise? Tell the people who we got, baby. It's fucking Deion Sanders. Let's go. Prime time. Prime time, baby. Must be the money. Yeah, baby. So very excited to get Prime on. Let's go. But before that, we're going to get some bold topics to wrap up week two around the NFL.

24:26Let's do it, man. My day was going great. I forgot about this game. Put it in the past. Let's fucking talk about it, Jason. Yeah, let's bring it back up to the forefront and give the people what they want. What they want. Chiefs 17. Well, they want to hear some perspective. Chiefs 17, Eagles 20. Trav, initial thoughts from this game. Got to catch the ball. Got to catch the ball. We give ourselves a chance. Right now, we're just not executing to the degree that we hold ourselves accountable to. And that's just – it starts up top of Coach Reed and how he holds us accountable. And then, you know, us players got to hold each other accountable.

25:02I got to be there for my guys, man, knowing that they put a lot on my plate to, you know, be a good player for this team. And I need to fucking answer that bell, man. And 0-2 start is not how you envision the year starting. Played two solid teams. I mean, the Chargers looked great again last night against the Raiders. But yeah, Philly is Philly's still got a lot, a lot of great players on that team. Obviously, I love all the coaches and everybody over there. And we just got to get this thing fucking get the get the train rolling on the right tracks, man. For sure. And we're a play here and a play there away from, you know, being 2-0.

25:41And that's what we see when we watch the film. And, you know, it's it's all about just keep coming to work every single day and getting right. You brought up the drop passer up front. So I think maybe we go straight to that. Yeah, that's fine. You know, I think Pat Mahomes after the game, of course, like everybody else is going to put it on him. He said, you know, throw a tad early. But the ball was where it needed to be when it needed to be there. I just got to get my head around out of the break. And I shot you that text telling you that. It's one of those plays where it happens bang, bang. And I know that that's the window that it needs to be in.

26:14I know it's coming out of armpits and ear holes of the offense and defensive line getting their hands up. And I just got to be able to get my head around right now so that I don't put myself in a position to let the ball surprise me like that. Gotcha. And it's just – it's frustrating, man. I've scored on that play a million times in my life and obviously exaggerated. But it's just – it's something that should have never happened. And then, yeah, it cost us. It cost us big time. And that shit hurts. But we'll get it fixed. I hear you. Well, I have no doubt you guys are going to get it fixed. Let's go right into this.

26:47one of the highlights of the freaking play was my man Josh Simmons hitting 18 miles an hour I know we don't want to talk about that but a fucking great hustle play by an offensive tackle obviously the beginning portion of it was uh was rough but I could not help but be kind of awed at this big man rumbling and bumbling down the field unbelievable athlete showed tremendous effort on that play to save a touchdown and give our give our defense a chance to at least hold them And I love him for it, man. It's effort like that that's going to have us in a good position moving on here. And I think as long as we keep that kind of effort, that kind of focus throughout the year, throughout the work week and everything, we're going to get this execution thing figured out, man.

27:35And Josh, man, we already knew he was a specimen. But that might have been my first time seeing him really taking it. Open it up. Open the gate up, yeah. You know what that reminds me of? Have you ever seen the clip of Larry Allen? It's one of my favorite O-line clips. It's one of the most impressive things I've ever seen. I had to have. Do you feel that – do you think that you guys are – the expectation that you guys hold yourself to and the way it's unfolded the first two weeks, do you feel like you're so pressing to get that first win that like there's is it like pressing too hard i don't know if that makes sense a bit of like yeah because you try and you you know how good you could be and you know when things aren't going smooth and the plays aren't being made to try and turn into superman and you try and do too much and that's what you mean by pressing is that you try and do more than what is asked of you on a certain play of a certain moment and of a certain decision it's like oh do i just do the routine thing or i do something spectacular and try and make it all work yes and i think there's there's a little bit of that at least from me yeah i definitely felt that uh i felt that in the first game not as much on this game um but yes at the same time it's like those instincts will come you know those instincts will come and uh and i think just running this this andy reed offense which is you know hasn't failed us yet uh i think running that offense to a tease and and just doing what what our coaches ask us to do, our teammates ask us to do.

29:13I think keeping that focus going forward with it, keeping the energy up and keeping the focus up and the attention to detail up, I think that'll, it'll all iron itself out. One of the more things that I think is difficult as a leader and being a guy that people look to on game day is knowing like, when am I encouraging? When am I, and it takes a sense. And I know that you, Chris Jones, Pat, Andy is the best at it, in my opinion. It's like, when is it like, come on, let's go. We got this. We got this. And then when is it like enough is enough or like you're not seeing a response and you need to create a scene to elicit the response from your teammates and everybody else.

29:58And sometimes it's even trying to elicit a response from yourself. But it's like there's like this fine line that is difficult to navigate that I think, especially when. You know it needs to get corrected. You've been around, and you can't waste more time where it's like, I don't know, is any of this making sense? I always felt like this. I know exactly what you're saying. I think you kind of got to be in the heat of the battle and on the sidelines and amongst a team to feel when you need that and how to navigate that for sure. But like you said, Coach Reed does it the best, man. I follow his lead in a lot of that kind of stuff.

30:34And when he asked me to, you know, pick the juice up or, you know, start playing with some piss and vinegar or, you know, however you want to say it. Start showing some emotion. Like, God damn. Take the fucking tuxedo off and put the blue jeans on, baby. Let's get this thing rolling. Here we go. You know, I think Coach Reed does it best, man. I just follow his lead in that department. Well, let's get to what everyone is mad about, which is the tush push. Well, I don't know that everybody's mad about it. It's definitely being made up to be a big thing online, which I get. I mean, listen, the one on the goal line, and I do think this play, people love to point out the false start thing.

31:14I think it is very difficult when you see these things in real time. I think people don't realize how fraction of a second we're talking about here. The one on the goal line. Yeah, I hear you. You know, either you get caught or you don't. Either way, you got to stop the play. And, you know, things like this happen. refs missed calls all the fucking time keep it moving i'll say because there's been alleging that like this is an on-purpose thing that guys are going offsides as the offensive line it's imperative that you get off on the snap so you're doing the best you can to get off on it before the defender gets off on it and exactly when that verbiage comes out of the quarterback's mouth you're trying to time it up perfectly yeah and sometimes you're a little bit early and i'll tell you this as an offensive lineman you'd rather be early than late because if you're late it is a very hard play to execute but i think the eagles and i mean this they're going to be under a microscope moving forward everybody is going to be looking at this because of what happened not just against you guys but this first week too they're everybody's taking pictures of it they're saying they're in the neutral zone they're saying they're false starting because they slow it down to like a thousand frames per second yeah so they need to be very very cautious because the the Calls are going to be starting to come, and they should be.

32:29Once it's out there and there's video evidence, rightfully so, the officials are going to be all. That's what happens, yeah. For those of you that don't understand how the NFL and these kind of plays work, whether it's a guy that tugs in routes, a guy or wide receiver that uses his hands and uses his arms as levers, if guys are doing something that's playing that line of legal or illegal on the field. It's like those tapes get sent into the NFL to review. Yes. So those tapes get eyeballs from the NFL, from these refs, and they get notes. And then the refs the next week go into the game like, hey, 8-7, make sure you're not using your arms at the top of your breaks.