Trey Smith on Chiefs New Faces, Being Pat Mahomes' Enforcer, and His Wild Path to the NFL | Ep 145

24:32Look at that. Yeah. There it is, bro. There it is. Check him out. That's great. That's iconic. Going to class. You see all that, you college athletes? Going to class. But he's there for work. He's got his lunch pail and his sledgehammer with him. He's ready to go. All right. Going into your fifth season with the Chiefs. All right. We got 2025 Chiefs coming up. Yes, sir. Come on. Anything different going into this season for you guys up front or as a team? I would say up front, you know, just have a couple of new pieces coming in. And, you know, some guys are definitely excited about it, excited to work with.

25:12And, you know, I think our mission and try to agree with this, man, like it's going to stay the same, man. We want another Lombardi. We want another trophy, man. We know we came up a little bit short last year. Man, we're just motivated. You know what I'm saying? That feeling we have, at least I know it's been driving me. I want to get back there. I want to win it again. Man. Yeah. We'll be absolutely fine. but a couple new faces to bring in the fold for offensive line. But Coach Heck and Coach Mate, they do a great job making sure we're well coached up and prepared. So, like I said, I'm just looking forward to it, man.

25:37Like, hey, set the ball down. Let's play. Let's go. Let's play, man. Let's go. You're firing me up right now, man. Come on, man. Come on, Tra. Let's get it. God, God. I do got to say this, though. You mentioned a few new faces, man. Our guy, Big Tooney, man. Joe isn't – he's not in the building anymore, but you got to show some love, man. Got to. He was there when you came in, right? He was in KC when you came in. I couldn't remember when exactly Joe came in. Was that his first year? Yeah, it was his first year because it was when Orlando came in, too, at the same time. So it was like all four of us, yeah.

26:07That's crazy. As a young offensive lineman in the league and your mentality and a guy like that who has been proven, won Super Bowls and been a pro bowler, Tooney, what was he in terms of your development and how he helped you out early on in your career? Yeah, I always start this while talking about Joe from around now, but I think Joe's going to be a future Hall of Famer. Oh, yeah. And just for me, man, as a young cat, stepping into the lead, wide-eyed, freaked out, like in terms of reassurance in your abilities, helping you out, picking Joe's brain for different things. Like Joe and I play the game way differently.

26:47Like Joe is super technical. He's certainly cool. He's not the biggest guy, but he knows how to manipulate people's body. Like he's nice to it, bro, like on a different level. I didn't even know it was possible. and for me man just having to lean on him especially when i was younger hey joe what would you do in this situation how would you attack this like how would you sort of set this block up and having that resource there was invaluable and you know just having a genuine friend too you know a guy you can depend on a brother like man that's it's priceless bro so for me i have a ton of gratitude uh being able to work with joe having joe you know some guys So, like, me and Creed, you know, being able to work, at least as an interior unit as well, like, I mean, that was special, bro.

27:27Like, it's heartbreaking. Like, it's just not coming back, you know. You already know. But he's got a ball in Chicago. He knows I love him, wishing nothing but success. But, man, having him around at the mentoring spot to just help me, help teach me the game and teach me the nuances, man, that was incredible. Oh, yeah. Look, that interior three was my favorite to watch over the last four years, man. And between you, Creed, and Joe, and all three of you being different players and, like, having similarities, but then also – and Andy's a great coach, and he finds ways to utilize everything and maximize it.

28:00I love watching the way you guys work inside. It was heroic what Joe tried to do this year by sliding out to tackle. And, I mean, I don't know many guards that can even give that a go in the NFL. Like, that is a completely different position. So hats off to him. very unselfish move to do that for the team. But with him gone, you're sliding in last year's rookie, Sua Matias. Am I saying that right? Yeah, Kingsley. Yeah, Kingsley. Kingsley sliding in to guard. And then who do we got to tackle now? Mike Caliendo. Is he? Caliendo still there? Perfect. Yep. So there'll be some open competition, some back and forth a little bit for figuring out who's going in there with you guys.

28:40Yeah, there definitely will be. And I mean, hell, man, you know, been part of the league. It's competition between us all, so we all got to go. Always. You're right. 100%. I know both of them will work their tails off. The best man's going to win. I have to earn my job against them as well. I'm excited about both of them. I love Mike. Mike's a great dude. Mike's extremely intelligent as well and a great ball player. And then Kingsley, just a young cat. He's got those young legs, a healthy body. His ability is incredible in some of the things that he can do on the field as well. Like I said, the moving pieces were awesome.

29:12Mine are great. We're going to be in a good position, though, Matt. Oh, yeah. The one I'm looking forward to, I just got to be honest, that left tackle position was something that was somewhat of a revolving door all season long for you last year. Have you seen this kid yet, Josh? To me, watching the tape in college, it was absurd. Like the athletic ability and size. Trav knows because I've been watching this. Yeah, I've been preaching it. I've laid my eyes on him. You already know. I've seen it. I've seen it. He was playing defensive end as just like a scout team defensive end. And he was just playing this gap.

29:47But he was being a pro. He was being locked in and being a pro. And I felt that man's hands grab me. Boo! And I was like, all right, all right. I got to come with it even when he's just giving the looks. I got to make sure I got my feet planted, man. I've watched a lot of these linemen coming out the last few years. This kid, I mean, he is the closest thing I've seen to like a Trent Williams or like a Jason, like that next level, like strength and athleticism. Yeah. The only reason he fell to you guys is because of that quad, is it quad tendon or patella tendon? Patella injury. Yeah. What do you look like so far?

30:29Yeah. Man, I haven't seen him in action, but I mean, I just heard that he is so strong, like unbelievably strong is one thing. So, like, Trav, you saying about his hands, like, that's the perfect spot on what I keep hearing. But, obviously, like, the talent is there, man. I've seen some of his film as well. And, you know, obviously got a chance to win a 90 last year. Shout out to him. But, you know, I think he's going to be a great asset to the team. And I'm looking forward to it, bro. Oh, yeah, baby. Get him in there. Get him nice and ingrained in the culture we got over there, man. Have some fun while we go and whip some ass.

30:59Yeah. You know, we'll get him, right? Would you rather play in Tampa Bay Miami Heat early season or like Green Bay in the middle of the playoffs. Like, would you rather play in cold weather or hot weather? I'll play in frigid temperatures, negative degree weather. I love it. All day. I love it. I love the best. Once he gets below 50. What was that one game in KC where – I guess Miami. Was that the one where I was like watching the field and it was like frozen in certain parts of it. Coach Reed had icicles coming from his mustache. Yeah. Yeah, it was like fourth-coldest game in NFL history, man.

31:38Yes. How did you feel you'd rather play in that than Miami 95? Yeah, all day long, man. All day long. Because, one, in the heat and the humidity, you're going to tire out a little bit easier, man. Everything is a little bit tougher. It's a different mental space, right? Where in the cold, as a big guy, like I said, I'm always sweating. Yeah, right? Always. It's already there. Like, I'll be nice and cool. I can recover faster. you know the winter coat jason you know you get a little bit heavier at the end of the year so oh yeah baby i'm good man i'm solid how do those trap blocks feel though when it's negative four oh you felt it yeah oh you felt it woke you up now but like the thing about it is great is like the demons alive and don't necessarily want to rush last year as well too for sure because you're talking about a team that came from miami they just left 80 degree weather now it's negative 11 degrees you're like what the hell's going on where do they drop us off at you know so It makes our job easier.

32:34It is a little different, you know, being in 15 to 20 degree weather for a couple weeks, for like a month, staying in between that 20 to 40 degree weather in Kansas City when it's in the winter. And then it dropping down. Yeah. I feel like the initial, the first day in it is always the coldest, like, you know what I mean? Like, if you're kind of acclimated to some of the cold, like that first day it drops below 50 in Kansas City. I'm like, oh, even I'm like, god damn, it's got a cold outside. You know what I mean? But then once I get used to it, I'm outside in shorts and a t-shirt. But it's coming from Miami and it being 75 to playing in negative 5 degrees.

33:18It's hell. I was probably like, what the fuck is this? Yeah, that's tough, bro. That's tough. Was that the coldest game you ever played in? By far. Because the coldest weather I would ever play out of Tennessee would be Kentucky or Missouri. So that was the coldest it got. And it would probably be around December or maybe late November. Let's get into some draft stories, man. Drafted by the Chiefs, six overall. I mean, six-round pick. Six-round. Definitely not six overall. But definitely worthy of six overall. Can you talk to everybody on the reason why you kind of slid in the draft and what draft day was like for you?

33:56Yeah, man. So those of y 'all who don't know, right after my freshman year entering my sophomore season, in that offseason, we had a coaching change. Entire coaching staff was fired. And we'll send Jeremy Pruitt from University of Alabama. And that whole offseason, they're just trying to break this. And as you guys know, if you get a new coaching staff, they're trying to weed out the bad guys, figure out what the team's going to be built around. So that identify me. Break the culture, man. Yeah, yeah. We were going to set the culture up around. They looked at me. I had a lot of success in my first year as a freshman.

34:23and they're like, all right, we can build around this young player. So they just started pushing us every single day during mad drills, and I was eating it, bro. Like, it was nothing to me. I'm laughing at them. It's on the shit. I'm like, this is all y 'all got. And, like, one week, man, in condition, we were doing happy asses, and I passed out. And I never passed out. I couldn't breathe well. I lost 13 pounds in a day. I remember talking to our team doctor, like, hey, you guys got to run more tests on me. Like, I feel terrible. And he's like, we're going to do a blood draw. Just go ahead and go to class.

34:51I remember leaving my dorm room. having to walk like 400 yards to the library to write a paper and having to stop like seven times just to catch my breath and as soon as I got out doctors calling me frantic like hey Trey where are you at where are you at I'm like I just got finished my paper guy what is everything okay he's like don't worry about it we're sending someone over the car that can scoop you up they rushed me to the hospital and uh figure out that I have blood clots in both sides of my lungs so that was sort of one of those moments where it's like man can I still play football like what does this mean and pretty much working with the doctors like for five months you're ready to go on blood thinners my thing is blood thinners is you take a shot to the head or if you get cut you run the risk of internal bleeding or just bleeding out in general so it's generally dangerous for a contact sport uh which was tough what they ended up doing is blood blood thinners for about five to six months was able to play in my sophomore year got about the halfway point of my season had the same sort of things going can't breathe well coughing mucus etc and they rushed me to the hospital again just to be safe.

35:50They're like, Hey, you have blood clots again. And at that point, my career was completely over in my mind. Like the doctors had told me if you have blood clots two times, you'll never play football again. It's not safe. Like we won't allow it. And you know, through the grace of God, I had some people in my corner, University of Tennessee, that just blew me across the country. And we went to the Cleveland clinic where I met with some doctors that looked at my scans, looked at all of our tests. It was just like, you don't have blood clots again man it looks like you have residual scar tissue in your lives from the first case so that was like oh wow yeah so that's how close it was like i didn't i almost didn't take that trip so i was pretty much done i was like i'll get the coaching player engagement but when i got that news and sort of opened everything up to where i ended up going to a blood clotting specialist in north carolina where he created a health plan that never done this word football before where i took blood thinner every single day of the week except for friday morning and i I would just wake up and play on Saturdays.

36:45So that means no practice, no contact, no training camp. I would literally just be vibing out, doing cardio, watching film, as much as I can, but just go playing on Saturdays. So it was a crazy experience. But, you know, my junior year, I was able to play the entire season, decided to stay at Tennessee because I made a promise to my deceased mom, Gorsetta Smith, that I would get my degree and I'd play in the NFL one day. So I kept my promise to mom since my senior season. and finished it out and then the draft is here. I'm like, hell yeah. Let's get paid. Man, what a roller coaster that had to be, bro.

37:23That is wild. So is there like a condition that causes your blood to clot in certain ways or is this just like a unfortunate, like unlucky one-off thing? Yeah, so you got either provoked or unprovoked blood clots. Mine was unprovoked. They tried looking at all parts of my body to figure out like where it's originating. A lot of times you have a surgery, you get hit a certain way, et cetera. Like, yeah. Nothing happened to me that would cost it. And genetic testing didn't show up anything definitively as well. Wow, man. Yeah, man. Because I remember hearing about this when you were coming out. Like, even in the Eagles building, I remember guys talking about, yeah, he's got this thing with like, I thought it was your heart.

38:00I didn't know it was blood clots. I knew there was something going on. But I remember that was something that all the teams were thinking about. How, if you didn't have that, where do you think you would have been drafted? Oh, six overall. No.

38:16I don't think, like, I'd like to think first round, but, you know, second round, third, probably worst case scenario. Sorry about that. That is wild. And now no issues. Like, you haven't had anything in the NFL. Nothing at all, brother. You know? Gosh, that is amazing. Nothing at all, man. Yeah, that is outstanding. Back to draft day, though. So, still, you went back, had your junior year at Tennessee. where were you on draft day and and and who was it that gave you the call yeah man so i was in jackson and i talked to my agents and they're pretty much saying you know we don't think you'll be a first round with the medical history but you're gonna go second round like third round is like worst case scenario but you'll get drafted so day one pretty good amount of families there i'm like i appreciate y 'all i'm playing the game tonight like i'm not getting So I'm playing Rocket League.

39:08Dude, that game is Rocket League with the boys. I don't want to sidestep it, but this is what I love about Rocket League. It's only like four buttons. I can't do all these games with all these buttons now. Just give me like two buttons to screw around and try and score a goal. All right, go ahead. Sorry. Yeah, man. No, you're good. So I'm on Rocket League with the homies, man. We're chilling. Just doing our thing. And pretty much first round goal was all right, cool. Day two, I'm sitting in the bedroom. All right, this is the day. I'm about to get drafted. and, you know, I was like, I'll pay attention to it.

39:37And this year was COVID year, so they had, like, a little – if you're considered, like, a top guy, they sent you a whole camera equipment and, like, thing for your house. So I had mine set up in my living room. I'm sitting on the couch with my family, and pig after pig after pig after pig after pig, second round goes, third round, I'm just like, okay, I'm going to go back to the hockey league. I'm just going to play it again. I'm just going to take my mind off of it. And, you know, that third round came and it went. And I remember just being like, damn, like, you know, what happened, you know, and being a little upset and talking to my dad.

40:07And he just sort of reassures me and calls me down a little bit. So day three goes, I wake up a little bit late, you know, no phone call or anything. I get a call from a former head coach that I knew from recruiting. And he's pretty much saying, Hey, I can't believe you're here, man. I remember you in high school, you were number one, blah, blah. He's like, Hey, we're going to take you in this next draft pick. It's like in the fifth round. So I'm thinking, okay, I'm going to watch this one. I'm about to get picked. And he picks somebody else and he calls me right back. but the minute after is just like, hey, sorry, I had to do this political blah, blah.

40:36Look, what we're going to do is we're going to fly you in as an undrafted free agent. We'll get you signed. We'll get all this stuff taking care of you and Pops. Like, don't worry about it. And so I'm not really, I'm not pissed. I'm just like, hey, man, like, it didn't go the way I thought. Like, I saved another year for this and, you know, all the stuff I went through, like, I thought I was going to get drafted, but I got an opportunity. I just wanted an opportunity, man. You just give me a shot, man. Give me a foot in the door, basically. So it was funny enough, like five minutes later, I literally was on the game again.

41:05So Rocket League is like the theme of the story. You can't pop back on Rocket League. We should really be thanking all the coaches because you got to play more Rocket League. Like if you could draft in the first round, you'd miss out on two days playing Rocket League. Right. So basically, man, like five minutes later, I get a call at the ID. He says, Kansas City. I said, you know, it's a doctor on the phone. I believe it was Dr. Matt Monaco. I believe it was. And he had interviewed me prior about the medical info. And Doc is on the phone and just like, hey, man, I told you I'd call you. Like, I'll happy you.

41:36I'm just like, the hell do you want? In my mind, right? Yeah, like, what's this about? And I'm like, another. So I just answered him. It's like, yo, what up? He's just like, oh, well, we're going to make you a newest member of the Kansas City Chiefs. And I was just like, what's this dude talking about? And so then when Mr. Hunt answered the phone, he's like, hey, Trey, this is Clark Hunt. How are you doing? And I'm like, oh, this is real. I was like, oh, let me sign up. You guys bumping me with the team, Doc? I can't wait to be down there. And then, you know, Brent Beach, Coach Reed, Andy Heck, you know, talked to all of them.

42:09And then it was just like, whoa, whoa, I just got drafted, man. My sister was in the living room. She was the only one left in the house. So I'm running, hugging her in the living room. We're both freaking out together, like crying. And then I call my dad. I'm like, dad, you won't believe this. Kansas City just drafted me. He's like, son, I love you. I'm so proud of you. And I'll be home in 10 minutes. I'll bring you chicken tenders for lunch. Yeah! that's a hell of a celebration yeah man so my dry story was a perfect perfection but I love it man I have so much gratitude the way it went down man to tell me who I am today yeah shout out to Ashley for being in the room still there with I was about to say a lot of people don't know this Ashley welcomed me to broadcasting in the NFL I met your sis out there she was awesome at the broadcast boot camp yeah I mean just eat some chicken turns and go back to playing Rocket League right you just got drafted in the NFL exactly I remember because we had that was I mean, you look back on it.

43:02That was a great draft for us. I mean, obviously, we got Big Creed, who you learn to, you know, create the beast with in the interior with and everything. But that was a hell of a draft. And I remember everyone kept mentioning, hey, man, we got to steal. We got to steal. They got to get the guy. We don't know how we dropped the six. I don't know how we dropped. We got him. And everyone's saying he's I mean, the dogs are giving him the thumbs up. Everybody said, and bro, when you walked in the building and I saw how big of a human being you are, I was like, what? This is the, no way. Little did I know how much you would grow as a player your first year and just be the enforcer that you are.

43:47But man, when I heard everybody talking about, we got to steal, we got to steal. And Veach was over here like, I think we got a guy. I think we got it. He was just over there getting, being, Brett. I can't believe this. Having a blast talking about. Yeah, exactly. Our plan worked. Our plan worked. And we found a way to get you in the building, man. That shit was fun. Yeah, no, I was fired up, man. What was your first impression of Big Andy Reid, man? Oh, dude, it was. So I played the Madden. It was the Madden 06, where he's in the front. And I was like, it's like that one red foot you know what I'm talking about.

44:16As a kid, that was the very first Madden game I ever had. What? The first football game ever. huge end of the game, Super Bowl situation, whatever it is. And Coach Reed's on the sideline and stopped reading his call sheet. So that was my first taste of Andy Reed in my life. So getting to the Chiefs, I remember it was COVID once again, so everything was sort of different setup. We were in the indoor facility, and he was on, I guess, Zoom, Microsoft Teams, whatever we use, that he's just breaking down a play. And I was like, damn, that's Andy Reed, bro. And talking to him, Coach Reed has a way of making you comfortable like messing with you bro it it was dope dude like i was sitting in disbelief really like man i'm really i'm here because like part of it is i watched you guys win a super bowl in miami i was with dustin colquitt and his buddies in miami oh yeah yeah through it through you were in miami yeah through the university of tennessee they sent me down there so i worked the event was like ushering people around colquitt and his buddies like found me they're like uh-uh, come with us.

45:21Hey. So I watched the game. Yeah, so I watched the game. So like for me, it was surreal where it's like, what, 2019, I'm watching y 'all win it. And then 2021, here I am, walk through the doors. I remember being at that game saying, man, how cool would it be to go play for them one day? Oh, yeah. And that's like the funny thing, how God worked. Like, here I am, so you just laid it. That's awesome, man. Absolutely. That is awesome, man. What were your first impressions of Trav like? Ah, shit. Everybody remembers the first time they meet Trav. That's a hard one to forget usually. Just crazy energy, bro.

45:57I was like, oh, he's awesome. I love this guy. You know what I mean? I was like, just saying stuff. But like, bro, I was like, one thing that I love, it was like early. It might have been against the Browns, bro. Like my first game, you scored a touchdown. I like tackled you and like slapping your helmet in the end zone because you're just psycho, bro. Oh, I remember that. They go fucking nuts. You know what I mean? Like, I love it. So anytime Trav's getting the guys going, I'm just saying, like, mm. I'm feeling it, bro. Let's get this thing rolling. So for me, my dog Trav, I mean, I think the one thing that I can speak about, especially as, like, a six-year-old Trav big young guy, was just how kind you were, bro.

46:38And you don't have to be that way. How you really care for people. You're not afraid to give out your heart, right? So I think that's the part that stood out to me where it's like, man, You look at your career as a trajectory you're on, you are as a human being, but like, you still make the time for people. You still care for people. To me, that's what he's following to the person. And that, to me, that was really the biggest thing. Like, man, you never mistreated me or just sort of wrote me off or anything. It was always just like I've known for years, man. I appreciate it, dog. It means the most coming for me, brother.

47:07Yeah, the best is yet to come, though, baby. Let's go. Fire me up, man. Alright, let's talk Patty Mahomes. Let's go into that. Yeah, bro. Yeah, let's talk some Patty Mahomes, man. What is it like blocking for old Patrick LeVon Mahomes II? Man, it was a tough transition out of college, boy. I wasn't used to someone extending the plays like that, making something on nothing. For me, I struggled so much with just sustaining the block, man. Full check, you suck. Get on me every day about not letting the egg timer in your head go off. He's one of the best they send a play is ever do it like you're gonna have to just drive and drive so for me man it was difficult at the beginning but then like i think the best part about it is just watching this greatness and it's not like the big moments per se it's like little stuff he does in practice like how the hell he throw that ball how'd he throw that what play was it where he did it around the back yeah yeah like that's the greatness where it's like who the hell is gonna be able to do this other than him he made me look so good on that play knowing damn well that i was the one that fucked up the play to where he had to do something spectacular to make it look good and yeah no you already know yeah that's one of a kind in that regard man it's uh do you just do you just in your mind do you have this like i don't know i i feel like i have like a time like a like a timing mechanism of like the first play like all right the ball should be out by now It's almost like, all right, there could be two forms of this play.

48:45So it's like the initial play and then, all right, I got to – as soon as those like three to four seconds are up, now I need to refocus, regear, do something else. Do you have the like secondary like play, like the possibilities of it? Is it always in your mind during like pass plays? Yeah, I definitely think so. It depends. A lot of times I play action games, such as all like that. gap schemes like pass or anything like that like for me it's just like i know i'm gonna have a double team i'm looking to help right a lot of times with pat man he's just gonna keep extending and extending and extending and a lot of times if you really just hold on bro he's gonna make something huge happen so for me i agree what you're saying where it's like on paper it might be like it should be doom boom but sometimes it might be do do do do do do just touchdown you know what i mean yeah that's the greatness that's all this magic so like you just gotta adjust with it broke you just gotta adjust and pat's even more like there's all sorts of quarterbacks that are mobile that'll extend plays pat does it up the middle more than any quarterback i've ever seen like most quarterbacks will either go if they're right-handed to the right if they're left-handed they'll have a tendency to go to the left pat will see like a split front like a two three technique front and if it's third and medium he almost is like predetermined in his head that he's going to take off and go get the first down right up the gut i've seen him do it multiple times yeah Are you at the point now where you kind of anticipate stuff like that, or is it still like who knows what's about to happen?

50:12I think I'm still at that point sometimes where it's hard to feel it. I think like during the season, especially when he gets to this tendency box a little bit, I'm like, okay, I know last week he did it this way. I got a hole a little bit stronger to the inside because I know he's going to be right here if so-and-so happens, if he gets flushed a certain way. Based on their rush games too, sometimes we know they're trying to flush in a certain direction, so I got to be a little bit firmer. For sure. I would say it's just adapting to him. But I think the main thing is always knowing that, like, Pat's just going to do something crazy back there.

50:42You know what I mean? Like, you just got to figure it out on the fly, bro. But I will say last year I really tried to adjust it a little bit more, get a little bit stronger on that inside. That's cool. And I feel like sometimes it's even just like a feel. Like, you don't know why you let go at a specific time. Yeah. As an offensive lineman, my biggest concern is getting a holding call. You're blocking a dude. You got a great block on him. And all of a sudden the quarterback scoots out. He reaches to grab him. and you think you're doing your job great and all of a sudden there's a yellow flag by your feet.

51:08Yeah, or whatever. But then you play with guys like that for a while and then you almost feel the D-lineman doing that and you learn to kind of just let go. Not that it works every time like that, but there's a feel for it for sure. I don't know. Yeah, it's an art, bro. It's tough. Like you said, there is a little feel to that. A little nuance to it where you know it's time. Has Pat ever made a play to where you got so excited you wanted to like fucking just like trap block and just like just got you so excited or like you want to just fuck like you remember the replacements how the how like the linebacker would always do just like too much he would always like want to headbutt the fuck out of somebody has Pat ever made you like go into that excitement and just like yeah yeah I got a couple plays in mind one of them growing was uh we played Tampa Bay in Tampa when he spun off about he didn't white for that type bro i'm just doing the climb yeah i'm like this guy's an animal it's like tiptoeing on the sideline and they just threw it to Clyde in the back of the

52:16i'm sorry bro that was one uh yeah let me flip past i've been like year two or something i guess uh timber i want to say it was a jet or something jet might take it for to the house but it was like just a little flick like i remember wiley wiley used to get jt and wiley though because JT gets fired up too. Juwan is like the most chilling cat I've ever met in my life. Once we get rolling. Oh yeah, he's the next one. Wiley, there are a couple times when we score or anything like that, I'm like, Pat, this one. Wiley would just attack me. It just beat the hell out of me on the side. Let's go, Wiley.

52:54But yeah, there have been a couple times where I'm like, Pat, you're that dude. But it's hard to even grab it because if he takes off the old son, Brandon's like, slow down. Oh, it's great. You want to talk some wrestling? Yeah, let's talk a little wrestling, brother. A little wrestling? A little wrestling, brother. Big WWE fan. You were at WrestleMania last year in Philly. Mm-hmm. When Jason got in the ring. Oh, really? Yep. You were in the ring? You were at? Okay. With Jason coming out in the Timbs and the jeans. The Luchador? The Luchador, yeah. The Rey Mysterio. Dude, who were your guys growing up in WWE?

53:30Yeah, I love Randy Orton. John Cena was a big one, Triple H. Weird one, but Kofi Kaysen. I used to love Kofi Kaysen. Kofi Kaysen? Yeah, okay. Probably like Undertaker. So a little generic, but like, man, all those are my guys. But, you know, I love John Cena. I had the little wristband. Walking. Legend, man. You were that era right after us. I remember when we were growing up, it was the Attitude Era. Is that still the Attitude Era with John Cena in them, or is that a different era? I always get the eras mixed up. It's like the tail end of it, I think. Yeah, for us, it was Stone Cold. Because he still had that personality.

54:11Mankind. It was still called the WWF when we were really growing up. And then it had just transitioned to WWE. If you were going to build an NFL roster out of WWE, let's just say wrestling superstars, Anybody from any era, what is your ultimate NFL roster looking like? Let's start with the quarterback. Who are we going with? Damn, this is tough. Go ahead. Let's hear it. For QB, go ahead and give me, it's going to surprise, give me CM Punk. Ooh. Great CM Punk. So you want somebody good at promos. You want somebody good at delivering promos. Okay, there we go. CM Punk. He's going to die. All right.

54:48Let's start out with linemen, bro. All right. Mark Henry. and one of the games. Hey!

54:56Give me the big show, even tackle, give me the great colleague at either tackle. We're going to program a little bit of power in Logastia. What about Andre the Giant? Where's he fitting in? All the time. Give me Andre the Giant and one of the tackles. We're talking this big six, seven footers. Yeah, exactly. We got the reach. The world's strongest man at center now. There you go. Oh, okay. There we go. There we go. Running back. Oh, my goodness. Give me Ray Mysterio. Ray Mysterio running back. That's what I'm talking about. We're not going for a lot of crazy. So we just need them to get in the gaps.

55:36There's going to be a lot of big guys up front. Just squeeze in and just find. Yeah. He's going to be like Darren Sproles. He's going to be like Darren Sproles. He's going to hide behind the line and then just peek on Zach. Zach, we're getting balled by the great colleague. There you go. Spin it off. wide receiver wise that's where i'm going to struggle what about tight end what do you think tight end because that's a definite like wwe position i think every tight end is a wrestling fan it feels like i'm just trying to think of somebody man i'm blanking right now do you think john cena's fast i don't think he's fast to be fair though i don't i don't think many wrestlers are fast i don't think that's what they go to wrestling for they the ring is only so big yeah I think John Cena will figure it out at tight end.

56:19I think that's a good one. If that's your lineman size, it would be proportionate for John to be at tight end. Give me John. Who are we going for Robert Cena? John Cena! Robert Cena will probably give me a Kofi Kayser. Okay. Give me R-Truth. Give me R-Truth. R-Truth? Man, you're taking it. I don't even know these guys. I was thinking like a Jeff Hardy or like one of the Hardy brothers flying off the top ropes with the hair. Like a Triple H or... This team is running the fuck out of the ball. Triple H is the wide receiver. Yeah, I was going to say, we're going to run this block. We're going to run that block, y 'all.

57:00What about The Rock? Who's The Rock? The Rock could play tight end and receiver or... Yeah, I mean, you can put The Rock at tight end. I mean, honestly, bro, it's going to be crazy. Put more swat than wide receiver. Put in that slot. There we go. Yeah, we'll figure it out. There we go. All right. I think that's a pretty good roster. That's what the XFL should have just done. They should have tried to get football players. They should have just done this. Send these guys out there and see how they go. That's right. Who would be your tag team partner if you ever were to join the WWE? Without a doubt, without fault, without question, Creed Hoffery.

57:39He's your tag team in the NFL. Why wouldn't he be the tag team in the NFL? sir you guys got it what would your tag team name be you guys got a team name ebony and ivory

57:55put it on a t-shirt put it on a t-shirt put it on a t-shirt oh that is that's good oh my gosh that's good that's great how did it come to you so quick man that was gold so lucky man god damn ebony and ivory man that is electric all right big dog uh let's uh let's get to this last segment man no top in that that's gonna be the best thing oh man ebony and ivory forever man This is our last segment. We always close out the interviews with, we got to ask, but you don't have to answer. You can tell us to fuck off on any of these questions, or you can just give us a quick answer, man. Let's start it off with, what is your ideal KC barbecue plate?

58:48Ooh, okay. Ideal plate is going to come from Jack's sack. I'm not getting lamb ribs, man. I don't know why, but they have the best lamb ribs. You say lamb ribs? Lamb ribs. I'm about to get in on these. Is that different than like lamb chops? They just don't cut them up? or what? Yeah, it's just the rib part of the lamb. So, like, they do a dry rub season on it, but, like, super tender, mad, decent mommy of the balls. I'm telling you right now. I do like lamb. Lamb is great. Okay. All right. All right. I did not expect that. From a Tennessee guy, I did not expect lamb ribs. I did not. Let me do the full regional.

59:20So, I'm going to do lamb from KC and Burden. So, two from there, right? I'm also going to show a ton of love to Texas. I want half a pound of brisket at least. At least. and I'll eat a little beef rib. A little piece of beef rib, right? Beef rib is the best. That's my favorite. Oh, I love beef rib. And then finally closing it out for Memphis, that's where I would do my pork. So pork ribs, pulled pork, even like a barbecue chicken. Like that's my, that's my seeds down there. So everything.

59:51What about sides? Where are we going sides? Oh, I got to have mac and cheese, baked beans. Give me slaw. Slaw. Dessert? I think I know where you're going with dessert. I think the proper dessert is always going to be like a peach cobbler or banana pudding. I thought you were going banana pudding. That's smart all day. I got to ask you this because we talked about this last week. When you think of barbecue, do you think of the Midwest or do you think of down south? I think down south. Bam! Bam! But to be fair, Tennessee is the Midwest, to be fair. Oh, it's not. Tennessee is the Midwest. Take it back.

1:00:27No, I'm not sure. No, it's just south, brother. It's still down south. To the original 13 colonies, I'll give you that. Yeah. Today's day and age, I mean, it's right next to us. It is. It is close. If Ohio is the Midwest. It really makes no sense that Ohio is in the Midwest, right? Like, I don't know. It's on the eastern side of the country. It's never made sense to me. Either way. And then Tennessee is in the middle of the country. It's not down south. It's like smack dab in the middle. Yeah. It's pretty good. It doesn't make sense. talking more about food you won the kelsey jam wing eating contest by a landslide it wasn't even fucking close so time out what is this because i've i've dabbled in a wing contest what was this how many wings what was the time i think it was like a minute i don't even remember it wasn't that long it wasn't long the dude you guys put me up against was a scrub man yeah he didn't have i don't know how i think he won a contest to get into it i don't even think he just won like a raffle like he got pulled out of the I don't even know if he like eight wings like that uh but it was still it was still what was the competition how what was the do you remember winging content yeah I know it was a winging competition of Travis Trey what was the what was the what was the deal it was a wing stop deal they had probably like 20 wings in a container and just as many as you could eat and then like fill it up in the sink so I think the time was a minute though it wasn't very long.

1:01:58How many did you get down in a minute? Well, I could have gotten more but based on his tempo, I was just like... You were just looking over like... This is getting crazy. How many things I put down, Tray? Seven, five or something? Easy. It was easy. It was... Yeah. So have you ever heard of Wing Bowl, Trey? So Wing Bowl was a Philadelphia contest they used to have and the local radio station put it on because the Eagles were never in the Super Bowl. So the Wing Bowl was always the same time as the Super Bowl. they did it at wells fargo it was shenanigans it was at seven in the morning people would be drinking the night before on a friday they would tailgate all it was legendary there was all sorts you wouldn't be able to do it again because there was like all sorts of strip clubs and other things involved in it but there was there were like local like there were local superstars that developed into these large and left characters anyways i competed one year in it and the way the contest worked it was 14 minutes 14 one round of 14 minutes then there was elimination a second round of 14 minutes in elimination and then a speed round of two minutes so 30 minutes overall you have to eat wings whoa what i ate 65 wings in the first 14 minutes i'm thinking i'm killing five i think it i'm like i just fucking smoked i was out in the first round not even close the woman who holds the record at wing bowl get take a guess at how many wings the winner of wing bowl won with this is insane this is a 30 minute time frame keep in mind 30 minutes how many wings do you think she got down in 30 minutes if you ain't 65 and got you look i mean it's got to be like touch like 100 right bro keep going well I'm not talking about the first round this is all three rounds like she had over 200 in the first round I'll give you that in the first round he got fucking smoked by Brandon look up the record for wing bowl look up wing bowl record Molly Skyler picture of this legend too she's a beast she's a beast she's a she's I think she's from Omaha or something like that she's just this tiny woman Molly Skyler in the ringer they flew in a ringer She qualified.

1:04:11She qualified. She ate like 10 pounds of steak to qualify to get into the deal. No, this is like a big prize. It was a big event. Brandon, what was the – can you look this up, Brandon? They deleted all information from the wing bowl because of what they were doing inside that stadium. She ate 455 in the first 28 minutes. That's unbelievable. I can't be real. 501. 30 minutes. It's 501 set by Miley Schuyler at Wing Bowl 2016. that was how many how crazy is that though 501 wings i mean that's so blue that's it doesn't even seem humanly possible listen i've seen i've seen trey smith fill up a few to-go boxes every thursday night dude thursday nights this is what the pro bowl is missing the pro bowl shouldn't be playing flag it should have an offensive lineman wing eating competition i want to see which office line in the nfl can eat the most wings i'm with it yeah i'd buy that ticket yeah I'd fucking buy that ticket.

1:05:06Kinsley and I have a challenge because Kinsley said he's eating 80 in one sitting. What? Kinsley's doing what? That's a good guard. I like him sliding into guard then.

1:05:19Thursday nights are always my favorite after meetings because it's wing night in the facility. You can go in there and everybody, they, listen, the Kansas City chefs. Let's give it to them. Let's give it to them, yes. They put together a spread of like five to six different flavors, and they just keep bringing them out. They just keep bringing them out. And when I tell you everybody's just sitting there cracking jokes, having a good old fucking time, just smashing them, and then you see Trey walking out with fucking three boxes. Dude, good times, baby. Good times, man. The worst part is getting the peanut on the way back home.

1:06:01Oh. Jason, I'm telling you, you got to stop through the peanut at least one time before, like, next time you're in KC, man. It's like three minutes from the crib, man. I'll walk to them. I'm in. You go to the one downtown or you go to the one around Plaza? Downtown location. Oh, yeah. It's classy, man. It got so bad that every time I stop in there on Thursday, like, oh, the usual, or I'll call, they'll be like, hey, is this Trey? I'm like, yeah, we'll see you in about 10 minutes. We got you, dog. Yeah, we got you. We'll make them fresh for you, big guy. Next question. O-line Mount Rushmore. Who are you putting on it?

1:06:36Ooh. Ooh. Whoa. Top four O-linemen in NFL history. Golly. We're putting me on the spot. Dude, I got to put Larry Allen in there. Rest in peace, Larry Allen. For me. Larry Allen, baby. Everyone wants to be as strong as Larry, but no one's as strong as Larry. No one has the same as Larry. And deceptively athletic. That one play of him hawking down the interception. Oh, my gosh. Yeah, I thought I was going to be moving. Yeah. on. No, I'm not Larian. Okay.

1:07:07Dude, I want to put in Jackie Slater. Yeah. Okay. Nice, man. He's so big man for like 20 plus years. Coach has always talked about him and just look at his story. He's awesome. This is a personal one of mine. I want to put Joe Thomas in there. Joe T. You say personal. Why is that a personal one for you? Just like that was a dude I used to watch a ton in high school. I didn't have a guy like LaTrales Bentley at the time tell me, hey, you're not Joe Thomas. Why the fuck are you watching Joe Thomas? So good. Early in, so he set me straight pretty fast. I put Will Shields in there. That's a great name.

1:07:51That's a damn good Mount Rushmore right there. That is damn good. That's a good legend right there, baby. Yeah, Joe, dude, I love that you put Joe in there. I mean, one of the most underrated, if that's possible, like the guy didn't miss a snap for like 10 years. Can you think about, I mean, how outrageous that is on top of him. He didn't just not miss a snap. He was out there balling the entire time. And didn't miss a snap when they were like 0 and 15 in one year. And he's like, yeah, I'm still going to go out here and do my job because that's what I get paid to do. That's what Mason's so great, man.

1:08:21That's what Mason's so great. He's a legend, man. Hall of Fame beef. He's got a farm. Dude, think about how crazy it is. he didn't miss a snap and not one of those snaps was a playoff snap. Could you imagine? I don't even know why I'm making that connection, but it's just outlandish to me. All right, whatever. I'm sure he loves hearing that. Yeah, I know. I'm an idiot. I should have said that. All right, whatever. Who's the toughest guy you've ever had to block one-on-one? Aaron Donald. Yeah. AD. What about somebody unheralded? Maybe somebody the media wouldn't expect. I would say Malik Collins, who was just recently with the 49ers.

1:08:55Dude, I played him when he was young in Dallas and got to watch him get a lot better over his tenure there. And I agree. There's something about the – like you can tell he's smart. And he's ahead of what he wants to do. And I love that answer. Malik is a great player. Where's he at now? You said where? He's 49ers, but I don't know if he's there again this upcoming year. Yeah, he started in Dallas, I think. He's with the Texans the first time I played him. Then he went to Houston, then the 49ers probably. Great answer. Love that answer. Why do you – is there a reason? I just think for his size, his ability to move the way he does.

1:09:33And like you said, you can tell that he's anticipating what he's going to do for his moves. You know what I mean? He's sort of setting something up every time. And generally, guys that size are going to have the ability to move the way he does. And just like he's very proficient with his hands as well. So I always felt like he was a guy that he doesn't have the quote-unquote namesake and accolades, but he's one of those dudes where you go to sleep on him, man. You're going to have a long-ass day. He embarrasses you fast. I just respected him, man. I really respect him. That's awesome. Love that answer.

1:10:01Man, I got to ask you, this just made me think of our guy. Friend of the family, friend of the show. We got to actually get him on the show soon, but Colin Saunders. How was it? Going up against Sir Bank on Monday night this past year, man. Yeah, it was cool playing. He probably wasn't talking, right? He didn't talk to us, right? Kyle was locked in. He was. He was locked in. He was locked in. No, it was cool to say, base man. Kyle was probably one. He's got to go down. He was one of my favorite teammates I've ever had. Of all time. Just great dude, man. Funny. Unbelievably funny, man. It's always going to be a good time around Bank, man.

1:10:42But that shit's funny as hell. Was it? I was going to say, I can see him being locked in whenever I came across him on the field but you already know he is such a funny guy and such like uh i want to say a class cloud but he's here to have a good time while we get business done you know what i mean and uh he's got that championship work ethic and everything but it it's it's just i don't know why it's hard for me to see some guys take it that serious and for whatever reason i mean i saw it but it i just had to feel different for you going up against uh him as a saint instead of just in practice and stuff yeah it definitely was a weird feeling those first couple plays but i think the biggest thing is it's like for me learning that like man if your buddy makes a play on you it makes you look bad it's gonna be even worse so like you can never you know you know too much you know you know you gotta be on your p's and q's man speaking to go up against guys in practice what's it like to go up against chris jones what was that first one-on-one like yeah he gave me my welcome to the NFL moment.

1:11:46Put it like that. That was going to be our next question. You got to tell him about it. Yeah, man, going against Chris, like, obviously, you know the caliber of player he is. You know, as a rookie, coming into it, and I just remember, like, just being overwhelmed a little bit with, like, St. Joe's. It's your volume of plays you got to learn. It's hot as hell. Like, they're riding you every day, and then here you are blocking this all-pro to, like, best teams to tackle in the NFL. So, like, good luck, Rook, like, figuring all this out. You know, and, you know, for me, it was just getting whooped repetitively towards, like, okay, I'm learning, okay, this works against them.

1:12:21Where I can't play them like this, but, like, I feel like the supermine to it all was I understand that as I go through the season, I'm not going to play Chris Jones. Yeah. Every single week. Every single week. Like, I might face, like, maybe one, but there's only one Chris Jones. You know what I mean? Exactly. So, like, for me, it's, like, understanding how to block them, but then also Les is like I'm over here you know grinding it's like a long drive drill we're like play 13 he got something out he's back in and I throw a right hand he slaps it down beats me he's like at Pat's hips and he just comes back it's like hey look here Rook you gotta get that hand to the outside you know he gonna come over and sweet talk you man and he just gonna laugh I'm just like what's going on bro Trey I've been trying to tell you you can't be doing that that Mississippi accent it man yeah i love i love him though man like i really um i'm so happy i get to go against that type of player every time because i know once again it just prepares me bro i'm not gonna see that all the time and you know just like that iron sharpens iron right i want to be able to go against the best so like oh yeah it's goal time and the bullets start flying i already see something like that but actually you're not as good as him so let me show that guy yeah you ain't gonna find too many people as good as him in the actual game it's a good thing he's in practice you like that we saw him before he really started to develop a name the year we actually won the super bowl i think it was one of his first games like start and start yep bro we didn't really prepare for it we just like we're like oh like we're just playing like a three technique and like half we're doing it like who in the fuck is this guy

1:14:01this is so like i was like god dang this guy and then we watch the rest of the season he's killing everybody. It's like, thank God it's not just us. Let's do just really good. Nine-five, man. That's fun. Trey, I think we're good, dog. I appreciate you coming on, giving us your time, your stories, man. Yes, sir. Wish you the best. You already know, going into minicamp, man, we're going to fucking turn this thing up. Get right back after it, baby. Yes, sir. I'll see you next week, man, but appreciate you taking the time and jumping on and telling us all these fun-ass stories, man. Yeah, man. Appreciate y 'all having me on Monday.

1:14:35Pleasure. You already know. God, back at it. You just said it. All right, that wraps up another episode of New Heights. Thank you to Trey Smith. Man. My dog. What a legend. Such a cool story, too, man. And he's only adding on to it, man. I don't know what hits harder, the way he plays football or his personality. God, he's level more. You ain't lying. That's my guy right there. All righty. Make sure you're subscribed on YouTube to our New Heights channel. Follow New Heights on the Wondery app or wherever you get your podcasts. You can listen to new episodes of New Heights early and ad-free right now by joining Wondery Plus in the Wondery app or on Apple Podcasts.

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