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Podcast Episode Summary: New Heights with Jason & Travis Kelce - Episode 119
Episode Title
Will Ferrell on Down Bad Buddy the Elf, Iconic SNL Audition & Ron Burgundy's Dating Advice
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Hosts
- Travis Kelce (Kansas City Chiefs)
- Jason Kelce (Philadelphia Eagles)
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Guest
Will Ferrell, renowned comedian and actor, known for iconic characters such as Ron Burgundy, Buddy the Elf, and Ricky Bobby.
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Episode Overview
In this episode of *New Heights*, the Kelce brothers engage in an entertaining and insightful conversation with Will Ferrell. They discuss a variety of topics spanning Ferrell’s career, personal anecdotes, and even some relationship advice. The episode encapsulates the humor and camaraderie between the hosts and their guest, making for an engaging listen.
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Key Themes and Discussions
- Will Ferrell's Recent Antics
- Ferrell shares a humorous incident where he dressed as Buddy the Elf at an LA Kings hockey game.
- Discusses his experiences with public stunts and how they generate reactions.
- Athletic Background
- Ferrell reminisces about his brief stint as a walk-on kicker at USC, showcasing his early love for sports.
- Jason and Travis share their own athletic backgrounds, including their love for hockey.
- SNL Audition Process
- Ferrell recounts his legendary "Cat Audition" for *Saturday Night Live (SNL)* and the pressure of performing in front of an empty audience.
- Discusses his iconic characters and the impact of his SNL tenure on his career.
- Character-Based Football Draft
- The hosts engage Ferrell in a playful segment where they draft a fictional football team using his various movie characters (e.g., Ron Burgundy as quarterback, Frank the Tank as running back).
- This segment highlights Ferrell's characters' unique traits and how they would translate into the world of football.
- Relationship Advice
- Ferrell humorously provides relationship advice through the lens of his comedic characters, including Ron Burgundy and Ricky Bobby.
- They tackle voicemail questions from fans about dating scenarios, blending humor with genuine advice.
- Behind the Scenes of Comedy
- Ferrell discusses the collaborative nature of comedy and the importance of commitment to the performance.
- Insights into the pressure of live performances and the unpredictability of audience reactions.
- Sports and Comedy Intersection
- The conversation touches on the relationship between sports and comedy, with both Kelce brothers expressing their admiration for Ferrell's ability to merge the two worlds.
- Ferrell reveals his passion for attending live sports events and how it has shaped his life.
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Key Takeaways
- Will Ferrell's comedic genius shines through in both conversation and character, illustrating the lasting impact of his roles in pop culture.
- The camaraderie between the Kelce brothers and Ferrell creates a lighthearted and engaging atmosphere.
- The episode serves as a testimony to the interwoven nature of sports and entertainment, showcasing how both can bring people together through laughter and shared experiences.
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Conclusion
This episode of *New Heights* not only entertains with jokes and stories from Ferrell's illustrious career but also provides a heartfelt glimpse into the lives of these well-known personalities. With insights into sports, comedy, and friendship, it encapsulates the essence of what makes this podcast a unique platform in the world of sports and entertainment.
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Listen
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Transcript
Automatic transcript. May contain errors.0:00Who doesn't want to hear relationship advice from a couple of knuckleheads. Would you like to help us on these? Oh, sure. For a first date, when you should know those red flags and when to look for the green flag. I don't know anything about red flag or green flag. Get yourself into position to look for the checkered flag.
0:25Welcome back to New Heights, ladies and gentlemen. A Wondry show produced by Wave Sports and Entertainment. And brought to you by American Express. We're your hosts. I'm Travis Kelsey. My big brother, Jason Kelsey out of Cleveland Heights, Ohio, Cincinnati Bearcat alums. Get the UC Bearcats basketball team back on the winning streak here. All right now, boys. Subscribe on YouTube, One Drink Plus or wherever you get your podcasts and follow the show on all social media at New Heights Show with one S. Jason, we got a good one. You and Eve, we got to tell them. I'll tell them we got a good one coming up.
0:57But tell them what we got coming up. That we do. We've got a great guest before the playoffs get started. Why don't we take a look right here? Our guest today from the University of Southern California, winner of six Primetime Emmy Awards, two ESPYs, an MTV Award, Movie Award, Best Kiss winner, and the winner of the Mark Twain Prize for Comedy. You can see him in his critically acclaimed documentary, Will and Harper, on Netflix. Yes, sir. As well as his up-and-coming comedy with Reese Witherspoon, your cordially invited, releasing January 30th. Oh, can't wait. 92 % is it's Buddy the Elf. Bugatsu, Ashley Schaefer, Ricky Bobby, Ron Burgundy, Chance Michael Michaels, 92 % of strength to take himself.
1:40Will Ferrell is here. Oh, my God.
1:47So epic. Best intro. Best intro ever. Best intro ever. I apologize if I just blew your ears out, Will. No, no. That was soothing. I'm going to play that on a loop to fall asleep to. it's gonna be like a sleep machine for me yeah we are uh if you can't tell we are jazzed to have you but i gotta be right away we saw this post on twitter from the la kings buddy the elf is officially in hockey wood look at can we pull this up brandon this is so good going this is not the buddy elf i remember this is just over the weekend buddy elf has been through some shit what's buddy the elf got laid off i think no from no from the north pole
2:37he's having a pull from his beer smoking a smoking a cig yeah just having him time that was just i get these weird ideas every now and then they're golden man i told my wife because we were season tickets holders to the LA Kings. We have the seats right on the glass, which were amazing. I said, gosh, over the break, you know, it'd be funny if I just got like a Buddy the Elf costume and didn't shave for like a week. And I'm just sitting there with like a candy cigarette. It's just a candy cigarette. And I'm just going to like sit there for a period and see how people react. And that was it. but so reaction was insane we're like what is he doing is he promoting something is but occasionally i just like to do weird things like that just to stir it up dude it's the best yeah it's the best or have you always been a hockey fan i knew i know you've been following the kings for a while now but yeah i kind of i was uh i i i remember there was i grew up in southern california and there was uh there was a kid who moved into my neighborhood from connecticut who played hockey and we would play street hockey we would play this is sad one-on-one one-on-one street hockey does that even are you kidding me this is this is all me and jason used to do oh okay of course this is legit we'd have ice so we're just with the little ball and it's running around a parking lot oh yeah and then i yeah i was i i followed the kings way back way back when they had like the triple crown line of Marcel Dion, Dave Taylor, Charlie Simmer.
4:17Anyway. So you've been in it for a while. Hell yeah. I've been watching. Yeah. I've been the, and then they, then of course they won a couple of cups and that helped build the audience. And now, now they, now they draw really. Oh, look at that. I got a little Wayne great ski. Jason, Jason got me this for a Christmas, but did you guys, did you guys play hockey as well with everything else you did? Oh yeah. We did. That was probably the first one that we both fell in love with, at least for me, for sure. Yeah. No, same. It's a wonderful sport. It's fun. We both started it. Travis finished in high school playing basketball.
4:52I played hockey in high school. We used to play street hockey with that same ball you're talking about. Yeah. And one of the elementary schools, Roxbury Elementary, had cut down the basketball hoops. Okay. And you would think this would be a safety issue, but they left the posts. They just cut the hoops down. and if you hit the post it was a goal so we played pickup hockey all the time just trying to hit the post and that's like how we played yeah yeah it kind of kind of an amazing sport and uh i'm not gonna lie to you there's some beautiful men out there who play hockey gorgeous gorgeous as long as they have their teeth in yeah as long they have their teeth in you know don't take the dentures out but uh yeah that was my that was my latest kind of public stunt.
5:35While we're on the public stunts, we got to pull up the shack at the Staples. We got to pull that one up. That was classic. Oh my gosh. Look at that mustache. Yeah, that was another one. I had friends who gave me a Staples security guard outfit. And I snuck it into the building and then just pretended to be one of the security guys. so wait that was not wait the staples so staples was not a part of that one either they had no idea and i was afraid i stuck it in because i was afraid they would stop me and go where'd you get that uniform that's contraband come with us this is the vet look dude that's amazing i just stood on the set yeah it turns out the other security guys they were like dude i love it Just don't stand on the court.
6:27You're good with us. You're good with us. And then I look down and Shaq happens to be at the game. Unbeknownst, I just pick a random game. And I look down and there's Shaq in the corner. He's rolling. He's laughing. So I stand up a couple times in between the breaks. And then I'm like, what else do I do with this? I don't know. and then someone taps me on the shoulder and says you know during the next break shack's ready to leave the game do you want to throw him out you want to throw him out of the game so he he gave me the idea he goes yeah just come over and then that i escorted him out that is brilliant the diesel and then we had the biggest laugh and uh that is so good i was like I go Shaq do you know how extraordinary that is that you're allowing me to throw you out of an NBA basketball game he was like are you kidding me that is so and then it was so funny all the I found out from one of the heads of the security that he goes hey I have to tell you everyone appreciated the shout out all the security people appreciate the shout out I was like oh that's what I was yeah actually I was kind of making fun of you guys you know it was a shout out it was a shout out for sure that is so fucking gold man you've done a lot of these so i gotta know i've been i've been just so curious about this when did you become a dj the video of you djing at the frat party might be one of my favorite you've it you've now inspired me to want to become a dj and do exactly what you made that shit look so fucking fun i don't know i don't know if you want to i don't know if you want a real peek behind the curtain or not but uh i don't know how to dj i was just all set up by my son and he was like dad can you come it's parents weekend can you come by the fraternity house and i'll just set it up and you just have to twist knobs and pretend like to push buttons yeah so i just acted the part uh but i do not know look at that's insane that's insane i i i still i still forget that people have uh cameras attached to their phones i don't know if you guys ever feel that way but i'm like i still sometimes i'm like so good the fact that you could just turn that switch off though man not not care about it that's the best that's the best part that was that made i sent that to everybody that i knew i showed up for 15 minutes and then i went to the football game i didn't think twice about it and then monday it like blows up and i'm thinking what wait what oh right all these kids were filming it anyway so good it's just it's fun to just kind of i just love kind of doing those kind of out of the box things just to just to mingle with people and and uh well we love when you do it too big dog yeah for sure yeah thank you let's get into your athletic career jason why don't you hit them with it you were an athlete growing up kicker oh yes yes oh yes so were you you were a kicker in high school did you ever try to play any other position or were you always like i'm going for the kicker well let's just say freshman year at university high school in irvine california i dominated okay yeah baby starting free safety and wide receiver two-way player two-way player football guy right here Co-MVP of the football team.
10:04Oh, my gosh. Basketball, freshman player of the year, freshman basketball. Then I played baseball. And it was downhill. Downhill from there. I was 6 '1 1⁄2 as like a freshman. So you had some height advantage. And then I think by the time I graduated, I was 6 '3". So I only grew an inch and a half more over the next couple years. But, yeah, I'd never played football. and I played a lot of soccer and I also was, I also was doing, you know, the kicking. And then I got called up to, I made varsity as a sophomore, as a kicker. Okay. They wanted me to play safety too, but I was like, you guys, I weigh 145 pounds.
10:50I pay 150 and I'm not. Oh my gosh. Something about, I never come. Let's just say no one was looking at me for the, for proper tackling form yeah sure yeah something about getting your head in there i'd end up like my approach looked really good and then i'd roll to the side and face mask you i played i played defense one fucking time and it was safety and i saw a guy running at me looking like freaking eddie george and i made a business decision that's what i did i made a business decision to not go in with the the head the hands the the proper technique just going i would i went slide tackle i would set up the right way you're like oh he's gonna ferrell's gonna jack someone and then i would go no that's okay so yeah i made i was like you know what i'll just kick and uh i was really hoping actually to be a college uh kicker we were a horrible football program um i think we were one eight and one my senior year i can relate but i but i was getting those you know i was getting those little form letters from you know university of oregon new mexico state new mexico state what was your longest uh field goal do you remember 45 45 in a game in high school that's big time 50 50 in practice uh you can boot it and then i tried walking on at USC.
12:23I saw, I was, I was my freshman year at USC. I saw in the athletic department that they were having a tryouts walk on tryouts. Right. But it was, it was, it was, it was in the fall. So obviously the team is already set. So I'm like, why not? I, I showed up and they, we weren't allowed to kick on the field that actually had the field goals. It was just a big open. And I was like, I was like really accurate, but I wouldn't say I was, you know, could boom it. So we just, i think we did i think he did like five kickoffs and then the guy just blew the whistle was like okay bring it in we're good and uh he's like okay huddle up uh i'm the special teams coach we're pretty we're pretty good we're pretty good with our kicking situation right now but you guys want to play scout team you know running back or scout and i was like no i've heard about scout team oh no yeah no not in college in college that's yeah that's when it's no fun so that that was the extent of my uh my college athletic career it sounds like you you kind of wanted to be an announcer while in college yeah i went to usd had like uh had this sports information program i was uh it's funny i i i always wanted to get into comedy but uh i kind of grew up in the entertainment uh industry my dad's a musician okay and had played at you know in in the best of places and in the worst of places he's a piano player and super talented and i just saw how uh unstable the entertainment business is sure he would have a job at a you know at a at a nightclub for for six months to a year and then and they'd be like well that's over i'm like what happened it's like nothing they just said we're done yeah and you have to go back out and search and man do all this stuff um and so i thought well i'm never gonna do that you know i want to i want like a real job i didn't know what that meant even though i loved comedy i loved making my friends laugh i loved watching comedy i loved you know everything about it but i also love sports and i i played sports all throughout high school and sc had this program that was uh was was like sports journalism so i thought oh that's a that's a blending of both and you know sports center had probably just started uh let's see i was in i graduated in 90 so that was kind of the beginning of espn and starting to boom yeah i want to be one of those guys you know yeah and so i graduated and then was trying to get a job uh with local cable stations and you know you have to like build a tape and send it out to these small markets to get hired as the you know the sportscaster in yuma arizona those tapes gotta be gold they have i don't know where i should have held on to them uh but at the same time i thought you know what this itch is not going away i better scratch it about the comedy thing so at the same time i started doing uh classes at this, uh, improv theater in Los Angeles called the groundlings, where I had seen tons of people had gone on to sitcoms, to Saturday night live, to, uh, film and television performers, writers, directors, everything.
15:50I thought, Oh, this is, they had a school I could, I could kind of take all these classes at. And, uh, so I kind of was doing both at the same time. And I kind of found my you know you gotta as you guys probably know you gotta find your community you gotta find your support group and that that place in LA the groundling cedar was where I felt safe enough to to kind of go for it and I was there for three years and uh and then that spring of uh spring of 95 was when SNL was doing like a nationwide search for a brand new cast because they knew they were going to let go uh it was gonna be the last year for like farley and sandler and dana carvey and and that whole group man so yeah happened to be at the right place at the right time when they came and watched one of our shows and went through the audition process and then yeah the audition process dude we've all seen the audition video it is the most brilliant the cat cat toy on the ground how how does that even how do you how do you know that that's going to be the one that gets you the job like what the fuck well here's the thing because travis it doesn't make any sense in my mind you've hosted the show right you've stood you've stood on that spot where you deliver the monologue yeah and your heart is pounding in your chest right yes and yes but you're in front of a full audience that's supportive and there and they want to see you have fun yeah i'm on the ground in that studio playing around like a cat no one no one's in like war michael's purposely had no one in the studio to like create the tension of late night like he wanted to create the pressure of what it's like to be on saturday night like live tv so i'm in a void rolling around going oh my god i'm going back to la this is not like because because there's no one there's no one in the there's no one in the studio there's just a camera operator and a sound guy oh my gosh so good this is so this is my one of my favorites so it was almost like a prisoner torture technique i just had to like fight through it and were there were there any other audition like like bits that you had or were you like kind of juggling a few at the time or they basically had to do an audition that was anywhere from five to eight minutes long of any of the characters of your choice oh nice okay so So that was one of the, I did another sketch.
18:33I did Harry Carey doing a play reading. So I did my Harry Carey impersonation. And I did this sketch that I think really got me the job, which was this dad at a barbecue yelling at his kids to get off the shed. And that piece I auditioned with later became the sketch that was in, i did in my very first show oh that's cool as a cast member so that's cool so they brought that one to life nice yeah yeah that's awesome man but it was it was awful i was like uh i had no idea if i did well or not and you just left going oh well i guess they'll call me i'll tell you what lauren is he could be a stone cold dude he can give you absolutely nothing yeah and i'm sure that that left you confused as all get out man but um he uh yeah he can he can uh it's funny he's like he can walk right by you or he can or he can or he can pump you up but yeah it sometimes sometimes you don't know where you stand with that guy yeah oh man the snl years were were definitely the beginning of uh of our fandom for you big guy who do you remember as like some of your favorite characters on SNL?
19:53Like the ones that you really got excited to, to go out there and like perform. I never imagined that I would get to play the president because I wasn't, I wasn't known for doing political impressions or anything like that. So to get to do Bush for that lot, like that was, and, and like, you know, you're going to be a go-to guy every week. Uh, yeah that was pretty heady that was pretty that was really fun uh i loved you know i i think about like doing the cheerleaders with sherry o'terry uh sketches i got to do with uh with molly shannon on a gas tire we used to do this uh bobby and marty's uh sketch where we were like middle school music teachers who would perform and the kids would hate them and uh the Robert Goulet sketches were really fun man Neil Diamond uh Neil Diamond and Harry Carey I got to do I got to do Harry Carey to an audience that maybe didn't know it was fun because people who knew Harry Carey from the Cubs as an announcer obviously knew who he was but then other people would go I love that mad scientist character you do with the crazy white hair and I was like well no he's a real person they're like oh okay well whatever it doesn't matter I think it's so funny i had a great seven years on the show and i just uh there you know i i'm i'm so lucky to look back and and there's probably i i you know i i had fun like every single week doing that show man yeah seven years is a crazy run man you uh obviously seven years on the show as a as a cast member but you're you remember the snl five timers club as well what's the difference between hosting it and and being a cast member or what's the biggest difference yeah i think honestly uh i preferred being a cast member because when you when you host you all of a sudden it was much easier to be a cast member and have your your sketch get cut and be kind of shake your fist you know like ah but when you're on the other side and you're having a hand in like oh i don't want to choose between that's tough right i mean you've been in that room yeah and you probably had some choices where you had two or three funny things that could only go in the one slot um because there is there is a lot of thinking that goes into that show and it it's hard like you probably everybody was awesome on the cast so you're sitting there like i don't want to take her off stage i don't want to take him off stage i don't want to take that bit that bitch they they're killing that bit and i'm just and that you're thinking oh but i'm i really love doing the one thing and so i was like oh i hated i hated like determining the fates of who was going to be in the show and who was not um also too you realize like the times i've come back to host that thing is that thing is like a track meet you forget it is a machine it is a well-oiled machine physical shape you're in comedy shape you're in and i all of a sudden felt like i was in an nba basketball game and i i the ball just kept hitting me in the face when i like the last time i came to to host and uh i remember in fact i remember sitting with lauren at the after uh party and i was like god man lauren i can't believe i used to do the show like not even think twice about doing the show every week and he was like i i thought he was gonna give me the you know attaboy like like you know you were no you were great you were wonderful he was like no it's a young man's game
23:41he didn't he didn't give me anything i'm like was i that bad no no no but no it's a young man's game
23:51it all rolls fast though man it happens so fast and man i was i was the luckiest guy in the world to even get a chance to do it knowing how big of a of a fan i was of it and how big of a you know opportunity it is jason you're next oh jason jason he's been he's been on my own thing i've listened i was up there able to watch travis host and that was it's and we've talked about it before But it's just so impressive, the amount of people that are involved in that thing and how it all happens. And I couldn't imagine the hosting itself, like in watching because I think I got there maybe Thursday, Trav.
24:30So I got to watch a little bit of that process of learning it every day. And I was just blown away, absolutely blown away. It's a real piece of living history in terms of television and in terms of American comedy because when you're sitting at home and you just DVR it or turn it on at 1130, you have no idea during those commercial breaks that there's 100 people running around moving those sets. Right. Absolutely. It is such a, I mean, I hope they never cancel that show because I don't think they'll ever do that type of show ever again. No. It's just, it's an art form the way they put on that show.
25:16And it's surprisingly, it is surprisingly funny with how many things that can go wrong and the fact that they only, they write it in a week. Yeah. It's crazy. it it's it's hit or miss for sure but it but it lands on its feet more often than than not and uh it's it's pretty impressive the whole week you're seeing the the construction workers putting together sets and you're just your your mind is just blown away and you're just like what and then some sets get canceled because they just don't fit in the time frame you're just like what how do you do this week in week out it just blows my mind and you really have to have to be a part of it you have to have thick skin as a cast member because uh uh i remember uh when i was my first year on the show kevin nealon uh who i was a big fan of kevin nealon uh came back to to kind of see a show and say hi to us and uh he it was towards the end of that my first year on the show and he was like you're really funny like great job and i was like i was like thanks man and he was like let me give you some advice like you don't have to score every week just keep that in It's like if you can look back on a season and count on – like if you've done 10 funny things, then you've had a good year.
26:36Interesting. Wow. So it took the pressure off of like having to have a great show every week. It's like hitting 300 in baseball. If you hit 300, you're going to be in the Hall of Fame. And if you could hit – well, 30 % might be a little low. But if you could be funny 50 % of the time, that's a good batting average. Yeah. So I took that to heart. But yeah. Let me ask you this because we are doing – I'm doing this late night thing on ESPN. I just started it. And we're trying to incorporate some scripted bits and some funny – like I guess what do you think is the biggest thing to performing a sketch or comedy live that you would tell anybody who's just starting out?
27:21into that world because quite frankly, I've never done anything like this where there's like a live audience and you're trying to do this while it's being recorded. Yeah. Forgive me if this is a loaded question, but I'm remiss if I didn't ask you pointedly if there's anything that you can like fast track my ability to be funny on. No, you're screwed, man. Sounds like you got to figure it out. Yeah. Yeah. No, you know, I, the thing that I always lived by is because, you know, I, I was like, look, I'm going to meet, I'm going to, I'm going to watch people perform who I think I'm funnier than. I'm also going to watch people who are way funnier than me.
28:08Yeah. And I'm going to have to be okay with that. But, but the one thing no one will ever beat me at, beat me at is how hard I commit to something. Sure. you've got to commit sketch wise to whatever the premise is yeah and and just go for it and if you lock in that way all all the apprehension will just melt away and yeah and then the audience will be on your side too because you're they'll just be like he's going for it this makes exactly hopefully it's a funny premise to begin with but even if it's not they'll just be like god Jason is going for it. I'm on his side. And that's all you need to worry about.
28:51That's brilliant. And to not, because I've seen people, you can't have one foot in and one foot out. Because then the audience doesn't believe your intention. Absolutely. And so that's just the main thing. Dude, you send it better than anybody, man. Before we get out of this SNL bit, we asked Bill Murray this question. And he said, Ray Charles. but who is the one SNL host that just blew your socks off? Like, man, I did not expect this person to be this damn good or this funny or this awesome that you, maybe when you were a cast member. Just so you know, we asked Bill Murray this, and he said it was Ray Charles because he just really, he was amazed at how well he remembered all of his lines.
29:34Oh, my God. And didn't have to use any cue cards. Yeah. We had a similar, we had, uh i remember jackie chan posted with us what he didn't he didn't read english yeah we couldn't use the cue card so we had to do the whole thing yeah yeah and he was on fire but there i i think there are um they're like varying degrees uh like we i remember um one of our best hosts was uh Derek Jeter yeah he's just committed to everything regardless of how stupid we put him and also that's how i got to know that's how i met Shaq for the first time he came on and did i think it was Kelsey Grammer was the host, but they said, hey, Shaq's in town.
30:28He wants to do some sketches. He destroyed. He was so funny and natural to the point where one of his sketches got cut because he had a funnier show than the host. He had to reel it back. He had to reel it back because we wrote this sketch where all the cast members were picking on me and making me cry. And Shaq came up. He's like, what's going on? And I'm like, Shaq, everyone's making fun of me and he's like come with me will and we walked to home base there and he picked me up in his arms and we proceeded to sing a duet called no one's gonna hurt my little man and uh he was shack cradling me oh we did this whole but that got cut and it like destroyed oh my gosh but then i swear there was like it was a lot of times it was uh actors that you like steve beshemi oh you're nice insanely good i remember a lot of times dramatic actors who were so excited to you didn't always see him in the comedy world exactly and and they that thing of like they would just commit to the premise they weren't even trying to be funny and it they subsequently got twice as many laughs yeah i love it but yeah it's amazing well you just remember you just referenced billy bob thornton and made me think of that bad elf at the top of the show maybe there's a bad elf bad santa remake coming down the line yeah yeah maybe yeah a lot of people will be be distraught by that combination but maybe that's why we need to do it yeah by the way speaking of football i gotta bring something up all right i happen to be watching during the holiday break travis you guys the pittsburgh game yeah yeah and when you scored when you scored did you just have one touchdown or did you have yeah i just had one i just had the one and you went to go dunk the football you missed the dunk i'm just gonna tell you yeah you missed it you hit the rim and i i i remember i remember thinking oh i want to bring that out i know i'm gonna be talking to you guys i'm like god travis he doesn't have the same hops he missed I don't have the ups anymore.
32:45I used to. The football just kind of hit the bar and just spilled over. But you still try to celebrate. Like, I just dunked it. I was like, no, no, no. I gave him my best Tony Gonzalez. He was known for dunking. And I had just eclipsed his touchdown record. Yeah, maybe finger roll next time. I should have. What I did was, you remember when you first started trying to dunk and you would just go up and smack the backboard? that's kind of what i was doing right there it really it wasn't a full dunk uh maybe if i get the if i get it earlier in the game i might be able to the explosive i have been thinking about that since that moment i've literally been stewing on that nice well i've been i've been thinking people might have forgot about it so perfect before we move on i gotta ask this have you ever dunked will can you dunk i dunked uh i remember having like a breakaway and i was like i'm I'm going to dunk this.
33:43The ball slipped out of my hand. I got right here. I got like rim. Yeah. And then the ball just fired off the backboard. And coach was like, what was that? I was like, you told me try to dunk it. If I'm right. He's like, okay. I could dunk a tennis ball, but now. Yeah. My Travis has seen me. No joke. Over an hour in a gym. At least. just at least trying just trying repeatedly thinking i'm getting closer and repeatedly failing if i just get the technique right i can do it i'm there i'm right there it's gonna happen i know 300 you're 310 pounds you're not going to dunk the ball gravity is working against you exactly all right let's uh let's get to this segment we're going to try this out This is the Will Ferrell character football draft.
34:38All right? Okay. So we're going to try and attempt to draft a football team with your characters. We're going to have you do this. We got round one, we're going to do quarterback. So if we're picking a Will Ferrell character, what character would be the quarterback of this football team? I think the quarterback, not that he would necessarily, he'd be good but he'd be very commanding would be Ron Burgundy you know it he's commanding he'd get the plays wrong he'd call the wrong cadences yeah he'd mess up constantly but he'd blame someone else it'd be a fun ride we got double right Dorothy Mantooth on two Dorothy Mantooth on two Exactly.
35:32Baxter left. So good. Go right. Swordfish. Ron, that's not a play. Yes, it is. Let's run it. It is now. It is now. Second round, we're going running back. Who you got for running back? Running back would probably, I'm going to say Frank the Tank from old school. The Tank. I mean, dude. He's breaking some tackles. because he's got that name, the tank. He's going to break some time. He's also going to be inebriated enough to where he won't feel any pain. That was my next question. Is he inebriated in this? Yeah, he's definitely... He's definitely... He's drinking all night if you give him some beers.
36:13Well, yeah, he may try to take a couple plays fully naked. Yeah, yeah. Then nobody wants to tackle him. Right. Man, he just... Great strategy, Frank. he's untouched into the end zone. So good. Round three, wide receiver. Maybe because he's, he's kind of, I think he's, he's, he's, I would say very flexible and live the word live buddy. I'd say buddy, the elf, buddy, the elf. Nice. I got a swore. you were going to go Chaz Michael Michaels, like jumping up. Oh, okay. Leaping over the middle beautifully. Very graceful. Yeah, Chaz Michael Michaels. Very graceful. That's a better – I like Buddy the Elf.
37:06I'm not – That's a better call. That's a better call. Buddy the Elf, just the happiest disposition ever. Why do you see us eat a lot of candy too? Yeah, they do. Skittles. Yeah. I'm telling you. Round four, who's a coach? Coach would, you know, because I think he probably did. I'd say Jackie Moon from SemiPro. Oh, yeah. He was a coach. Because he was a player coach. Oh, yeah. Yeah, that's a good one. He had to run it all. And he knows how to manage people.
37:41Owner. Where are we thinking? Round five, owner. Who's the owner of this football team? I don't know if he's the right owner, but I just haven't – I forgot to throw him in. but let's just say Ricky Bobby's the owner. Dude. It's an electric one. You already know. He's running the show, dude. That'd be the best Hail Mary. Our baby who art in heaven. Yes. He would lead the team in the baby Jesus prayer before every game, whether they wanted to or not. Sweet. Baby Jesus. Yeah, yeah. No, Ricky Bobby, he'd be a good owner. He's got like kind of a little Jerry Jones in him. I can see that. Yeah. I can see that.
38:22For sure. Some of my pals. They're definitely friends. Yeah. How about, have you seen the clip of Jerry Jones with the chops? He's acting now. He's in a TV show. No. Yeah. Jerry Jones is really. I was actually pretty surprised. I was like, man, he's speaking kind of better than he has in the interviews he gets. Wait, what show is he in? This is a good question. I don't know. I've only, I only came across it. Uh, Landman with Billy Bob Thornton. Oh, Landman. Yeah. So you're definitely one of those, uh, Paramount plus shows, you know, I actually watch, uh, some soccer on Paramount plus the old football, huh?
39:02What you got, you got a, you got a premier team that you root for. I don't really, but I, I'm part of the, uh, a small part of the ownership group of, uh, uh, Leeds United, which is the second division. nice very uh and so i've been out to him to one of their matches which was awesome and uh so i'll i'll keep tabs on them okay i see i see you at a lot of sporting events is that is that like you're you're kind of like your hobby you just you just love you love to get some live action sports no pathetic right i'm like living through you when i see you at the i'm like dude i want to do what will's doing i've got way too many tickets let alone the baseball the baseball bit you did where you played all the at all the teams and everything yeah um no we have because we're part of the uh lafc soccer team out here in la which is mls we're part of that ownership group too so we go to those games nice i have tickets to the lakers every now and then uh the kings usc football and somehow in the year that they won the world series i went to zero dodger games no way i should have gone yeah no i went to one i went to one no way i know we we we go to a lot of sports but i mean i i sports is a huge part of my life it was it was kind of the way um and i'm sure i know you guys can relate to this it was the way i was able to make friends it was the way um it just i loved playing team sports yeah i mean maybe it's something where athletes just want to do comedy and comedians just want to go to sports because i went to a ucb out in la i went to operate citizens brigade uh yeah it was so much fun it is amazing watching people in improv just take something from nothing and make something funny instantaneously it is so impressive they're an incredible group ucb's is is one of the best right on we have an idea here for this next bit trav do you want to explain it yeah we got relationship uh advice voicemail so So something we do on the show is answer voicemails from our fans, and we've asked them to call in asking for relationship advice because who doesn't want to hear relationship advice from a couple of knuckleheads?
41:13Would you like to help us on these? Oh, sure. You want to jump in? Let's do it, man. Here's the thing. You could answer some of these questions as one of your characters, maybe? Okay. Nice. Yes. Oh, I'm so excited. Brandon. Brandon. Uh-oh, Brandon. Hey, Travis. Hey, Jason. Big Chief fan, three feet coming. Just wanted to know your advice for a first date, when you should know those red flags and when to look for the green flags. Go Chiefs. Red flags, green flags. When to look for the red flags, when to look for the green flags.
41:53Let's see. Ricky Bobby would say, look I I don't know anything about red flag or green flag you just gotta get yourself into position to look for the checkered flag because I mean there's only one thing you need to worry about if you ain't first you're last so I would just tell that young lady look for the checkered flag you gotta you gotta find your way to the finish line guys i don't know if that's good advice or bad it sounds like bad advice i think it's kind of metaphorically it makes sense you gotta find your way to the finish line yeah you know i loved it man that shit was fucking gold that was so good so good that could have gone any better all right here we go next one what we got all right jason and Travis.
42:52So what do I do whenever I bought this girl tickets to a concert for Christmas and she dumped me the week before and now her best friend wants to go with me. Do I take her or no? Do you take the best friend after the tickets you bought for your girlfriend? She dumped you. Wait, I want to make sure I understand. Do you take the best friend of the girl after? Yes. So the girlfriend dumped him, and now the best friend wants to go with him. Well, Ron Burgundy would say, of course you take the best friend. Because you teach that young lady a lesson. You're not going to be some horse's ass. You've spent$1 ,200 going to, I don't know, whatever concert, whatever music you listen to nowadays.
43:46I don't know if it's Kajah Gugu or Duran Duran or whatever. is but you you send a you send a signal to that young lady that you're not messing around and then you more around you take photos of you and the best friend making out and send it back to the old girlfriend and say that's how i do it that's how you roll right there baby that was fucking gold man so good that's why you're the greatest of all time oh my goodness oh man do we got one more in us you want you want to do one more we can move on too will that was gold that was so good i think i think we're good to roll man let's let's get this thing going we end all the conversations with we got to ask you don't have to answer we got a bunch of questions we're just going to rattle off at you ready to go okay ready lightning round lightning around baby that's right you could be feel free to tell us to fuck off all right here we go okay before you made it what was your worst job uh definitely a bank teller i was a bank teller oh that's what donna kelsey that's our mom was she started off with the bank telling worked her way up to some some some higher up positions but yeah she started off as a teller customers would actually complain as to how bad i was so i'd break out and flop sweat your mom can relate to it when you're starting out you're handling people's money it was awful that's too funny as long as your register wasn't short you're good man i was short like my first two days out i wasn't even pocketing the money that's crazy excuse me manager manager i'm trying to deposit money in your teller it's like playing with a ball of yarn and he won't respond to me what's wrong with this guy in fact i remember i was putting up flyers in the break room to try to get people to come to my stand-up comedy show oh and i was so quiet as a bank teller because i was so nervous all the time and i had this manager go i saw your flyer you do stand-up comedy and i go yeah she's like i'd like to see that
46:04You're a father of three. What is the secret to being a cool dad? The secret to being a cool dad. I think constantly lovingly make fun of them. Nice. Yeah. Humiliation. It's the best. Humiliation. Why don't they make R-rated comedies anymore? I think they do. Actually, I have one coming out. here we go this month here we go generally invited on amazon perfect uh which is a which is like an old school r-rated fantastic movie reese witherspoon and i are we have two competing weddings booked at a destination uh location and we have to kind of duke it out to see who's going to be the wedding that gets to take place but um yeah i i it's an interesting time i think people are making it i just i don't know why they're not kind of going to the theaters to see them and i think we have i think we kind of have so many options now that a lot of people would you know would rather go oh i'll just i'll just catch that at home yeah there's nothing like going to the theater though man i know it's when you sit and watch a comedy with an audience you're reminded as to how much more fun it is right i'm trying to trying to get that back i'll happily see see this new one in theaters for you bud even though it's not in theaters it's on amazon we'll go rent a movie theater out and we're gonna play yes okay i'm calling everyone in the neighborhood they're coming over we're gonna you're cordially invited to watch cordially invited at the movie theater with us is there one idea for a movie that uh you haven't gotten to make get oh because you want to steal it yeah i you know what i'm gonna i'm gonna pass on that because i'm afraid you guys will steal it no no no we want to do something like that no i don't trust you guys i don't trust you no i don't know i don't i i am uh i'm trying to think uh uh if there's anything uh i i it's funny ideas usually pop into my head in the most random way uh but uh But no, I don't have an exciting answer to that.
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48:21Sorry. Let me ask you this. When do you know an idea is ready to be made a movie? Because I would imagine you think about stuff constantly. Yeah. Like, how do you know when it's like, okay, I'm going to make this movie about an anchorman named Rod? Like, where does that even, like, at what point are you like, yeah, this could become a full motion picture? Yeah, I think it's, I think you just get a sense of something that, you know, if it's an idea that you can kind of spit out in a sentence, then it's got a good chance. You know, it's like, you know, I remember when we were, we were pitching Anchorman, which at the time we got rejected.
49:04I think we got like rejected 20 different times from various studios and publishers and everything like that. Wow, it just blows my mind. fascinating like no one could kind of wrap their hand around a head around an ensemble comedy that took place in a newsroom they they kept hearing the news part and we're like no no it's going to be you know austin powers wasn't about us wasn't about the spy game it's about a really funny character right our characters gonna be funny and then i remember i remember thinking gosh this is so hard to get off the ground we should maybe pick a topic that everyone's talking about and at that time nascar was at its height and i was like for instance gosh what if i'm just me as a nascar driver and yeah and we pitched we sold that in like two seconds that's crazy yeah i don't know i don't know if there's an exact formula for it but it's just something that that i think grabs the people who have to pay for it there you go there we go yeah all right what's your uh what's your welcome to hollywood moment we all have a welcome to nfl moments that just, I don't know, it's usually a big hit or somebody that we're extremely, you know, fond of or we're big fans of growing up that we're finally going up against.
50:14What was your what was your welcome to Hollywood moment? I mean, one of one of my welcome to Hollywood moments was getting to be the first the first member of a brand new cast on Saturday Night Live. And I got to say the first the first lines of our our opening show. and i'm sitting there and they're counting down the show and i'm looking out that's crazy my folks are in the audience and friends and family and i'm like i can't believe i'm here and i'm about to i'm about to say whatever line uh which uh a little trivia here i mess up my line the first time i speak on camera on the show i flub it no way of course because i felt and you know travis you know how you do the full dress rehearsal and then by the time you do the live show you're like piece of cake i got it i got it yeah but all and so i did the dress rehearsal i was like this is gonna be great but i'm sitting there in the chair and the enormity of the moment hits me and i start to get a little bit emotional thinking about wow this is the thing i've always dreamed about and then it was like five seconds and then i had to do my line i was like and i was like oh and lauren came back he's like are you okay i'm like i'm fine i'm fine i just i don't know what happened so just a stroke yeah exactly it was it was incredibly uplifting and incredibly grounding all at the same time it was like don't ever take anything for granted and yet I can't believe I'm here.
51:55There you go. That's awesome. Hypothetically, you see two guys that look like us coming at you on the sidewalk. What movie do you think we're going to quote at you? You guys are going to say you're my boy, Blue. Yeah! Old school. You're going to go old school, I think. Or you might say Milk is a bad choice. I don't know. If it's a hot day, I'm definitely going to go.
52:26I was in Wisconsin and I had a whole wheel of cheese. I'm like, whole wheel of cheese. I'm not even upset. Milk was a bad choice. By the way, I improvised that because I was literally trying to tell the director in that moment, like, why did you give me a carton of milk as we're shooting in LA on like a 98 degree day? And I literally was like, milk was a bad choice. because I'm like, I'm having to drink hot milk in this scene. That's the worst. The fucking worst. You were spot on with that one. This isn't on this, but do you ever get tired of people quoting your movies? Like, are you like, yeah, I get it.
53:05It's got to happen just constantly. I wouldn't say, yeah. I mean, sometimes there are moments where, oh, I'm getting this weird kick here. Sorry. Got a nice guy. light yeah look at that light it's coming in real nice wow that's nice i don't know how to fix this
53:30well whatever here we go rolling with it like this we're rolling um i get yeah sometimes sometimes someone yeah something and you're just like good you're like oh yeah yeah yeah thank you yeah i did yeah i said that and uh most of the time it's it's fantastic but then there's about 20 of the time where i don't pick it pick up the cue oh wow i mean it's a lot of fucking classics that you've been in so i get it someone yelled at me uh why are you so sweaty and i go oh because i was just on a bike ride no some stepbrothers after the drum set why are you so sweaty you're supposed to say because i was watching cops yeah like oh right sorry and she got so pissed and walked away yeah that's fucking ruined it for me i've ruined it so i do ruin it for a lot of people because i don't i don't pick up my cue that's funny as shit yeah what um what's your uh comedy mount rushmore throughout your life?
54:39Who's your top four you're throwing on your Mount Rushmore? I'm going to put Steve Martin. Nice. I'm going to put – I'm probably going to put Bill Murray up there. Yep. Legend. I'm going to put Eddie Murphy. So good. And let's just say the original cast of Saturday Night Live. Nice, yeah. Throw them all up there. That last one. That counts. Hell yeah. Yeah, that's great. That's awesome, man. Awesome list. I love that list. Do you have an actor you've wanted to work with that you haven't yet? Steven Seagal. Shut up. No, no, no. That would be the funniest goddamn thing. I don't know why. You talk about doing something totally unexpected.
55:26No, that would be, yeah, exactly. I don't know why I just pictured you dressed up with the slick back as Steven Seagal. I don't know why that's what popped in my head. I don't even think we could track him down. I don't even know where he is on planet Earth these days. But I mean, I'd love to do something weird with like, like an actor like Daniel Day Lewis. Yeah. Yeah. Just gets really enthralled and into it. Exactly. Try to get him to do like a, like something weird. Yeah. That's fun. What about the best sporting event you've ever been to? Oh, my gosh. I'm going to say two. I'm going to say the Women's World Cup final at the Rose Bowl for women's soccer.
56:15Nice. Where they beat China. They finally won the Women's World. It's the famous Brandi Chastain taking the top off. Yeah. Fuck yeah. That was incredible. And then I'll say, even though my team lost the game, the national championship game, Again, at the Rose Bowl, USC, Texas. 2005. Yeah. Yeah. That was an amazing back and forth. It's a great game. You just made. Whoever had the ball last was going to win that game, and the time just ran out. You have no idea how his microphone is muted, but our head producer, our intern Brandon, our head producer, is the biggest Longhorns fan you've ever met in your life.
56:59Okay, I'm glad Brandon. He's screaming like a child off camera right now. He's going to lay into me right now. Sure. It's the reason he went to Texas, I believe, is because they won that game. And I sat in the same row with Matthew McConaughey and his buddy, and they wanted to talk shit the whole game. Like every time Texas, you know. Of course. It was like Texas guys love to be like, okay, here we go. And they cast him and score right away. I'd be like, what? What happened? What happened? What happened? What was that? What was that? And it was so back and forth. But I have to say, at the end of that game, everyone just shook hands.
57:37Oh, it was one of the best ever. We just watched one of the – yeah. So anyway, but I've been lucky. I've been to a bunch of fun stuff, but those two pop into my head. Yeah, that game, Vince Young's performance towards the end of it, especially – he was just – it was like – Crazy. Yeah, it was like somebody just caught fire and could not be stopped. and there is a classic photo of Vince Young scoring that last touchdown. Yeah. And one of the SC cheerleaders jumping up in the air thinking it was SC that had scored. No. It's so bizarre. Really? Yeah. Oh, I need to look at this. I have not seen that.
58:16That's amazing. You got to know who's got the ball. No, she. She was not the sharpest tool in the shed. yeah becky i'll tell you i've been to the rose bowl one time since he played uh ucla out there when i tell you it is one of the coolest atmospheres like i can only imagine that place packed to the t for that game and seeing highlight after highlight after highlight for the biggest game of the year man i can only imagine what that felt like man both those teams with guys who went on to the league like on both sides of the ball and uh And yeah, it was an insane environment. Yeah. So cool. Well, shout out to my former teammate, Vince Young.
58:58Awesome game. And shout out to you, Will. I mean, listen, before we end this, we always give our guests, do you have any questions for us? Or do you just want to go and go about your day? That's fine, too. I don't want to put you on the spot. Let's see. What time is it?
59:15You got the sun hunting you down over there. I know I'm trying to, I'm trying to help your producers out here by not getting blasted. But I do have a question for you guys. How much, how do you compare doing, getting to do things like this? Like, obviously you, you, you live, you're living out. You got to be pro athletes. This thing you dreamed about your whole life. Oh yeah. Now getting to do this other side of stuff. Is it as much fun? Is it more fun? Is it a different kind of fun? Yeah. I'll take a hack at this. So me and Jason, we started this thing because we just wanted to show our brotherhood and have fun catching up once a week.
59:56And it was a magical year where we both went to the Super Bowl and got to talk about both of our seasons throughout it. And in retrospect, after about three years, the coolest part is getting to interview guys like you and just getting to shoot the shit with you over the course of an hour and get to pick your brain on the profession that you're in and what got you there and things like that. Like that's all been so fascinating to me. And it kind of hit me like a blind side because I just got on here to have fun with my brother. And now I get to do cool shit like this. So that's definitely the ups for me.
1:00:30That's awesome. I would say, like Travis said, being able to just talk to Trav once a week, we have a dedicated time. And before we did this, there'd be like months sometimes in the middle of a season, especially where you like fall by the wayside. So that combined with interviewing really successful, interesting people or friends is awesome. But I would say the other thing that's it's very similar, you know, when you get ready to play a sport, you practice and you work and you prepare. And then the game day happens and you, you know, get to express yourself as a player. and that's something very unique as an entertainer as well where you know you work at it and you try to like you know think about how can i do things or what can i do that'll be interesting or take a creative idea from scratch yep and i don't know bring it to life and it all is like just really rewarding when that happens yeah that um i think that's similar in terms of like getting out there and he worked all off season we've put in all these new plays let's go out there and see what it looks like yeah and then you get blown out by 40 points you're like fuck we're out of the boys back to the drawing board but that's i think there's a lot of parallels between team sport and getting to do a lot of things entertainment because the same thing can happen like i think That's why I love working on films.
1:02:01It's a, it's a team of people. It's a crew of people. I love Saturday night live because of the ensemble, because it was like, we all like if, if, if, you know, if we all pull for each other, the whole show does well. And we all do well. And same sort of thing. You can, you work hard, you're working on something, you, you, you film something for 50 days. It takes a year to come out and you lay a big fat turd. and uh and you're like oh audience didn't think it was funny at all oh well we thought it was hilarious um there you go but and then you're like well i'm still glad we went for it you know what oh yeah exactly yeah so i'm taking your advice and i'm full sending everything i ever do in the entertainment world man full send i appreciate that advice man yeah well thank you so much brother you're unbelievable guys cannot wait to see everything you got coming up and uh Appreciate the time, man.
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