In short
A special frontline report from Yemen as fighting resumes after a 2022 ceasefire. Houthis, backed by Iran, have seized the Red Sea port of Mocha (near Bab al-Mandab), pushing the battle inland toward Taiz. The report describes shelling, drone threats, and the displacement of civilians, including families sheltering in the El Muni camp near the front line. It also covers the wider regional stakes (shipping routes and oil prices) and the humanitarian risks of a growing crisis.
Guests (in this episode segment)
Nawal al-Maghafi (BBC senior international correspondent; embedded with Yemeni government forces; based in Aden). Jasmine Dyer and Liam Weir (her team, traveling with government forces). Ali (a civilian in a deserted village near the front line). Miriam (IDP in El Muni camp).
Key claims
Taiz is “critical” because mountainous terrain could make Houthi gains hard to reverse; morale among Saudi-backed forces is low after Mocha’s fall; UN says 130,000 displaced since early September; children have “only ever known war.”
Notable examples
Ali refusing to leave despite shelling; Miriam weaving straw hats after fleeing Mocha; children playing in the IDP camp; reports of airstrikes and fighter jets supporting Saudi forces.
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Chapters
Tap a time to open that second in VOYemen's Ongoing Civil War
1:19 to 2:14
Overview of the civil war in Yemen and its recent escalations.
“But first, we begin this programme with a special report from the front lines in Yemen.”
Frontline Experiences
2:14 to 3:18
A report from the frontline in Yemen, highlighting the dangers faced.
“We're driving through the valleys of Thais with the Yemeni forces.”
Displaced Families Narratives
3:18 to 5:54
Personal stories of families displaced by conflict in Yemen.
“They refuse to leave their animals, their livelihood.”
Military Situation Overview
5:54 to 7:40
Analysis of the current military situation and territorial control in Yemen.
“We entered Taiz from Aden, which is in the far south.”
International Involvement and Humanitarian Crisis
7:40 to 11:40
Discussion on international involvement and the humanitarian impact in Yemen.
“A lot of the soldiers we spoke to have lost a lot of confidence because of the gains that the Houthis made in Moqa.”
Saudi Arabia's Response
11:40 to 13:30
Insights into Saudi Arabia's diplomatic efforts regarding the conflict.
“And in the south, the fighting is escalating and that's having a huge impact on the humanitarian situation too.”
News Headlines Overview
14:01 to 14:39
A brief overview of significant news headlines including events in Ukraine and Iran.
“and things here in town that are either named after Route 66 or sell Route 66 souvenirs, it is a huge part of it.”
Deniz Goktas: Comedian in Trouble
14:40 to 18:08
A Turkish comedian's arrest sparks discussions about freedom of expression in Turkey.
“Denis Goktas is a 32-year-old Turkish stand-up comedian.”
Political Climate in Turkey
18:09 to 19:20
Discussion on the changing political landscape in Turkey and its impact on expression.
“So for journalists in Turkey, it's very common for us to go to court, you know, quite a few times during the year.”
Advancements in mRNA Vaccine Storage
19:21 to 23:24
Insights into research improving mRNA vaccine stability and its implications for global health.
“Back then, I followed a group of healthcare workers as they trekked for the best part of a day through the jungle in rural India to deliver vaccines to people in the most remote of areas.”
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Protests Over Women's Safety in India
24:09 to 28:01
Coverage of protests in India regarding women's safety sparked by recent allegations.
“What's it like to see an El Nino on the horizon?”
Terror Charges Near Military Base
28:11 to 29:04
Discussion on the arrests made near RAF Fairford and the witness account.
“You're listening to NewsHour from the BBC World Service.”
Witness Account of Suspicious Activity
29:04 to 30:13
A detailed account from a farmer who reported suspicious activity leading to arrests.
“On reaching our farm I found both the driveway and the road blocked by three white vans.”
Government and Presidential Reactions
30:13 to 31:36
Reactions from President Trump and UK Home Secretary regarding the arrests and the situation.
“Well, after that call to the police, and of course, those arrests later on Sunday, President Trump claimed that the US and UK authorities had in fact been working together to monitor a potential plot on the base.”
Security Concerns and Speculation
31:36 to 36:11
Analysis of the suspects, their background, and the speculation surrounding their motives.
“That's the UK Home Secretary, Wes Streeting there.”
Daphne Caruana Galizia's Legacy
36:11 to 40:49
Examination of the ongoing impact of Daphne Caruana Galizia's assassination in Malta.
“And of course, more will hopefully be revealed.”
North Korean Soldiers in Ukraine
40:49 to 42:00
Discussion on North Korean soldiers fighting for Russia in Ukraine and the implications of a recent diplomatic spat.
“Perhaps the BBC's Anna Holligan reporting there from Malta.”
South Korea and Ukraine's Diplomatic Tensions
42:00 to 45:18
Understand the complex diplomatic situation between South Korea and Ukraine and its implications.
“South Korea's been a supporter of Ukraine, pledging$100 million worth of assistance.”
The Legacy and Impact of Route 66
45:18 to 50:03
Explore the historical significance and modern-day relevance of America's Route 66.
“And in a few months from now, America's Route 66 celebrates its 100th birthday.”
Transcript
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0:42Hello and welcome to NewsHour from the BBC World Service. Coming to you live from London, I'm Rajini Vaidyanathan. Coming up, we'll hear about the continuing calls for justice in Malta, nearly a decade after the assassination of the investigative journalist Daphne Caruana Galizia. When Daphne died, that was the biggest shock, and since then it's just been shock after shock after shock. And I'm here because it's the only option at this point. If we don't stand up and fight and shout and scream, then nothing's going to change. We'll have more on that story in about 40 minutes. But first, we begin this programme with a special report from the front lines in Yemen.
1:25The country shares a land border with Oman to the east and Saudi Arabia to the north, and for years it was gripped by civil war, until a ceasefire in 2022. But in recent weeks, all of that's unravelled as fighting between Saudi-backed government forces and the Iran-backed Houthis has resumed. It's after the Houthis seized the strategic Red Sea port of Mokka, which is close to the Bab al-Mandab Strait, a key shipping route. While the Houthis are making advances, getting closer to the key city of Thais. Our senior international correspondent, Nawal al-Maghafi, and her team, Jasmine Dyer and Liam Weir, have spent the past week travelling with government forces to Al-Qadaha, the front line closest to Moqa.
2:14We're driving through the valleys of Thais with the Yemeni forces. heading towards the front line. The sound of artillery echoes from afar, but the threat is very close. The Houthis are based just behind this mountain, and the drone, whose drone is it? Is this a Houthi drone or a government drone? Should we come down? Spread out, spread out. Go, go, go. M'shi, m'shi, m'shi. We can hear a drone above, and we've been told that it's a Houthi drone, so we're just taking cover. Go up the pathway there and come straight down to the road to the cars. OK. Go, go, go.
3:00Go, go, go, go.
3:06As we were leaving, we came across Ali. In this deserted village, he's chosen to stay. He sits outside the small concrete house he shares with his family. They're the only people left in their village. They refuse to leave their animals, their livelihood. I started by asking him, what's it like living here? Terrifying, but we can't afford to leave our home. Have they ever bombed close to your home? Yes, the shells fell here down the valley behind the school. Aren't you afraid that the Houthis might take this area whilst you're still here? It's in God's hands. What can you hear? This sounds like a machine gun.
3:49It's coming from down there. Do you know the difference between them now? Yeah. The Houthi's recent capture of Mokka and the strategic Baab al-Mendeb Strait has transformed the battle here. Now the fighting is pushing inland towards Taz. If they manage to take this city, their recent gains on the western coast will be virtually irreversible. Hundreds of families have fled to the El Muni camp, which is just a few kilometres from the front line. Dozens of children are playing on a red and blue slide and swing set. They're just a few of the 130 ,000 people displaced in Yemen since the beginning of September, according to the UN.
4:36In one of the stark white tents, I find Miriam. She fled from Mocha a week ago with her husband and six children. She sits weaving straw together by hand to make hats to sell, hoping to make enough to feed her family for the day. We left our cattle, our cows, the sheep. We didn't look back. We didn't lock our houses. We just left. Did you see the Houthis when they entered? Yes, I saw them when they came in. There were so many on the mountain, we didn't know where they came from. If you try and talk, they say shut up or we will shoot you. There's story after story of horror. These people have witnessed the unimaginable as they made their way here.
5:26And many of them have been displaced multiple times over. They're now waiting here anxiously because the Houthis are not far away from here. and they're terrified that they'll make it here next. Nawal al-Maghaffi reporting there. Well, Nawal is still in Yemen. She's in the de facto capital of the internationally recognised government, Aden. She spoke to me from there earlier. I asked her more about how she got access to spend time with the military there. We entered Taiz from Aden, which is in the far south. And Taiz sits in that southwestern part of Yemen. and it was about a nine-hour drive to Taz.
6:07And just to give you some context, there are three roads that lead to Taz. Two of them have already been taken over by the Houthis. There's only one that remains. And that one that remains, there were clashes that took place on it whilst we were in Taz. And the Houthis are circling in on that entire city because once they took Mokka two weeks ago, which is the city that sits on the Bab el-Mendeb Strait, It means they now have full control of almost all the sides around Taz, except that of Aden. And so once we were there, you could hear the shelling, the artillery, the fighting constantly throughout the day.
6:47And every day they were edging closer and closer into the city. Now, we embedded with the Yemeni army and they took us to the Al-Kadha front, which is the closest front to Mokka. and at the moment those gains that the Houthis made they can be reversed because that is coastal land it is flat and with the support of the Saudi-led coalition they can use air power and they can retake it but if the Houthis take control of tyres which is very mountainous terrain and that kind of terrain is the terrain that they do best in then it will be very hard to reverse the gains that they made in the last two weeks.
7:29And that's why this fight for Taiz is very, very critical. And it also means that it takes the war in Yemen far beyond its borders. And Noelle, you talk about spending time with the Saudi-backed Yemeni army. What's the morale and mood like? A lot of the soldiers we spoke to have lost a lot of confidence because of the gains that the Houthis made in Moqa. It took them by surprise. They weren't expecting it. It also means that now the Houthis have a lot of territory in Yemen. They control the most populated parts of the country. They now are in control of the coastline. And so morale is low. And they're also losing a lot of men.
8:18One of the soldiers I spoke to told me about how the night before they lost 18 men on the front line and they couldn't even get close enough to pull the bodies out. But with that said, in the last couple of days, they have been sent reinforcements. They have received backing by the Saudi-led coalition. We heard of about 40 airstrikes in Taz just yesterday and of a lot of losses within the Houthi side. We've also heard about four fighter jets from Pakistan landing in Aden today to support the Saudi forces. And so all of this build up is giving them a bit more momentum and it's encouraging for them.
8:57But only time will tell what will happen in Taz. But I think we'll see significant shifts in the next couple of days. Is there a feeling that there should be international support then stepping in? Last week, we heard of the Yemeni government and also the Saudi government putting pressure on the Americans to get involved. You know, it's a huge risk. Now that they have control, now that the Houthis have control of Mokka and that Bab al-Mandeb Strait and the Iranians have control of the Strait of Hormuz, you know, the impact that that will have on the global economy and on the price of oil will be felt everywhere.
9:38But the Houthis did something quite interesting. I think they announced that they won't, even though they have control of Bab al-Mandeb, They won't be attacking any ships other than Saudi ships. And therefore, the Americans said, we're not going to get involved right now. We don't want to embroil ourselves in another war. But that has left the Saudis and the Yemeni government quite disheartened. They felt that the Americans would come in and support them. But clearly, they're now finding support from elsewhere. And that's why they have, you know, they're in discussions with Pakistan and Turkey.
10:17Over the years on NewsHour, Nawal, we have played many of your reports covering civil war in Yemen. And you've always told the story about the human cost and displaced people. I know you've spoken to some people who are displaced by this recent flare up as well. I just wondered if you could talk more about fears of a growing humanitarian crisis. It's devastating. You know, like you said, I've been reporting on it for 12 years now. It seems like the humanitarian situation only gets worse every time I visit. When we went to this IDP camp that's about 20 kilometers from the front line, the IDPs, the internally displaced people that are in it, have been displaced multiple times over.
10:59This isn't the first time. This isn't the first time that they've been faced by conflict. And to them, they kept telling me it feels like nowhere is safe. No matter where they go, they don't seem to be escaping the fighting. And I think what also struck me this time is meeting children that have only ever known war. You know, in my previous trips, I met people who, you know, the war was kind of new to them. But now I'm meeting 12-year-olds, 13-year-olds who have only ever known war in their lifetime. And it's devastating. We've also been hearing about how the Houthis in the northern part of the country have been cracking down on NGOs.
11:35And so there are very few operating in that region. The humanitarian situation there is catastrophic. And in the south, the fighting is escalating and that's having a huge impact on the humanitarian situation too. Nawal al-Maghafi there. Well, as we were hearing from Nawal, this conflict brings in many other countries from the region, most crucially, as we've been discussing, Saudi Arabia, which backs the Yemeni government in their fight against the Houthis. Well, over the weekend, the Saudi Foreign Minister, Prince Faisal bin Farhan, addressed the United Nations General Assembly, condemning the Houthis' actions.
12:16The kingdom emphasises the importance of ensuring the protection of freedom of navigation in all international waterways, primarily the Strait of Hormuz, Bab al-Mandeb, the Red Sea and the Gulf of Aden. It calls for the return of conditions in the Strait of Hormuz to what they were before February the 18th, without imposing any fees or restrictions. The kingdom rejects the use of these vital passages by any party as a tool for pressure, threat or harm to the interests of countries, in accordance with international law and relevant UN resolutions.
12:57Well, Prince Faisal there is in Washington. He's going to be meeting his U.S. counterpart, the Secretary of State Marco Rubio, today. The Saudi state news agency says they'll be discussing bilateral ties as well as key regional and international developments. And of course, the Saudi leader, Mohammed bin Salman, has been requesting support from the U.S. military, something that so far President Trump has ruled out, but it's likely that will, of course, come up in those talks. We will bring you more throughout our coverage on the BBC World Service as those talks develop. You're listening to NewsHour.
13:39Coming up on the programme, as Route 66 prepares to celebrate its 100th birthday, we take a pit stop on the iconic American highway that winds its way from Chicago to LA. Post-war, that open road represented freedom and Route 66, it just kept reinventing itself. If you look at the amount of restaurants and gift shops and things here in town that are either named after Route 66 or sell Route 66 souvenirs, it is a huge part of it. A reminder of some of the other headlines we're watching in the newsroom this hour as well. Ukraine's National Academy of Science in the heart of Kiev has been hit by a drone strike as Russia increasingly focuses its attacks on the capital.
14:23And Iran says it categorically rejects suggestions that it was involved in a plot to attack an air base in Britain that's used by the US Air Force. We'll have more on that coming up.
14:38This is Rajini Vaidyanathan with NewsHour coming to you live from London. Denis Goktas is a 32-year-old Turkish stand-up comedian. He's popular. And earlier this year, he performed in an open-air theatre in Istanbul.
14:56Well,
15:00thousands watched him in person. And within a week, that clip, which was posted on YouTube, gained around 10 million views. And it's at the 15 million mark the last time I checked. Well, not long after, he was arrested by police over that video and put in high security pre-trial detention. Today, he appeared in court on charges of insulting Turkey's President Erdogan, incitement to public hatred and praising crime and criminals as part of that stand-up routine. Well, dozens of protesters gathered under umbrellas in the rain outside the courthouse in Istanbul to support him.
15:43Deniz Göktas, serbest bırakılsın. Charts there of free Deniz Göktas. And that is what the judge did, despite somewhat counterintuitively convicting him and sentencing him to 18 months in prison. Now, although the comedian is released on bail, the fact that he was charged and held in detention in the first place has prompted campaigners to say that his case tells a wider story of crackdowns on any criticism of Turkey's conservative government, whether that's politicians, artists, journalists or LGBTQ activists. Well, that's something I put to Nevşin Mengü. She's a Turkish journalist who was previously a primetime anchor for CNN Turk, based in Istanbul.
16:27So how it goes in Turkey these days, because it's a vast country, big country, and there's a lively middle class. We have this big metropolitan city, Istanbul, and Turkey has been urbanizing really fast. Why am I saying this? Because we have a really vibrant social life. We have comedy clubs. We have gazillion YouTube channels where people talk about politics. Some of them joke about politics. Some of them talk seriously about politics. People are on Twitter commenting because Turkey has been coming from a somewhat democratic political tradition. But now since Turkey has been changed, the landscape, the political landscape in Turkey has been changing dramatically after 2023.
17:12How the government is reacting to Turkish political culture is basically dazzling people. I think our problem is people haven't been able to adapt to this new landscape. So yes, there are people trying to criticize the government, trying to joke about maybe sometimes Mr. Erdogan. So the thing in Turkey is if your joke goes viral, so you tweet something, if it doesn't go viral, you're fine. But if it accidentally goes viral, then there's a high possibility that you might end up in jail at least for like a few months. And so that's interesting, isn't it? Because in this case, it was the YouTube recording of that performance earlier this year, which just blew up on social media and it got millions of views within weeks.
18:02Yes, yes, yes, true. And I wonder if you're able to share some of what happened in your case then. So for journalists in Turkey, it's very common for us to go to court, you know, quite a few times during the year. But a lot of my colleagues are arrested. So there's this new law called misinformation. And now the government is using this, or rather the judiciary is using this misinformation law quite generously, I'd say. So it's very, very, very tricky and risky. Basically, you cannot make one misstep, let me put it this way. So you're talking about journalism. We've discussed comedy and the arts.
18:42Are people essentially now self-censoring so that they don't get arrested or come under fire from the government? Yes. And where does that leave the state of discussion and debate in your country now? Well, I guess people find different ways of expressing themselves. You know, maybe you don't put it bluntly. I know in British culture, you guys are very blunt. Here, I think people have learned to be less blunt in times, but still be able to express themselves. So yeah, people find ways, you know, that's how it is. Now, I'm going to take you back to the COVID pandemic when I was a reporter based in India.
19:26Back then, I followed a group of healthcare workers as they trekked for the best part of a day through the jungle in rural India to deliver vaccines to people in the most remote of areas. And one of the most striking things was that they carried those vaccines in cool boxes slung over their shoulders as we walked for miles. Well, those vaccines weren't the mRNA kind. And one reason India didn't buy them at the time was because those can only be stored long term in ultra cold conditions. But all that could change as a team of researchers at MIT in the US have found a way to make mRNA vaccines a lot more heat stable.
20:03Professor James Thavanthiran is a clinical immunologist at Cambridge University. He wasn't involved in the research, but he told me more. mRNA technology is incredible because it allows the production of diverse drugs to treat many, many different diseases because mRNA isn't actually the biologically active molecule. It's not the drug. It's a code that harnesses the body's own machinery to actually make a biologically active molecule the drug. One of the big holdups for this and the big holdups in its use in vaccines is that it currently needs to be stored cold up to minus 80. So needing specialised freezers for long-term storage.
20:48and then even when we start delivering it to patients we can only hold it in the fridge for a month perhaps. And this new technology is part of a growing research programme around the world by many groups but this is quite a breakthrough. So what did these researchers at MIT do? mRNA vaccines are fragile. They're wrapped in tiny droplets of fat. The MIT team found a recipe of common approved additives that lets the vaccine be dried into a solid and stay active without freezing. So what they've done is they've been able to harness machine learning methods to actually develop a formulation that allows it effectively to be stored at room temperature.
21:35You say machine learning, so artificial intelligence has played a part? Yes. So it's not the type of AI that most people are aware of. It's not chat GPT. It's actually a refinement of a statistical method that learns from a small number of experiments. Now, they use that machine learning approach to find that recipe in weeks rather than months. What sort of diseases are mRNA vaccines used for? So at the moment, they've got really good safety and efficacy data for their use in vaccines, particularly the COVID-19 vaccines and most recently flu vaccines. But we've got encouraging data about their uses in the personalised cancer vaccine programme spearheaded by Moderna.
22:21On the more basic science side, we are working, a number of groups are working, targeting diverse diseases ranging from dementia, rare inherited diseases, almost every disease you can think of, there could be an mRNA use. So I'm guessing that this could also help getting to really remote parts of the world I don't think this research alone is what's going to take us there but that's what this is aimed at addressing the fact that at the moment in resource poor settings mRNA hasn't found much use because of the need for the freezers and the delay in transportation and the fact that the product needs to actually still be the same quality when you've had that transport time So this could really help developing emerging economies in particular.
23:08Yeah. And, you know, we're all struck by the news in terms of the Ebola epidemic. And we can all remember the speed at which the mRNA vaccines were developed against COVID. And this is part of the research that is necessary for us to be able to deal with these outbreaks in the future. That's Professor James Thavan Theron from Cambridge University.
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24:18And on today's show, we speak to a climate scientist who's worked for the U.S. government predicting extreme weather events like this year's El Nino. Of course I'm worried because I know these extremes impact people and you can't not be worried about that. What does he see coming? Search for The Global Story on BBC.com or wherever you get your podcasts.
24:41Welcome back to NewsHour. A university in the North Indian state of Punjab has suspended classes for 10 days after violent protests on campus. Some exams have also been postponed. It's over an alleged rape at a student hostel. Lovely professional university in Fogwara has denied the allegations, calling them completely false rumours. Well, our South Asia correspondent Azadeh Mishiri is in Delhi for us and is monitoring the story. So first of all, Azadeh, I wonder if you could tell us more about the background to all of this. Well, all of the allegations, Rajini, started surfacing about a week ago on social media.
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25:21And while a lot of the claims are unproven, students were angered by the fact that the university didn't take any action. Now, as you mentioned, the university says that these are misleading rumors, that in fact, they're claiming these are false allegations to tarnish the university's reputation. But even so, students, angered by the fact there was no action by the university at all, ended up protesting both on Saturday and Sunday. They lit fires, they stormed university property. They clashed with police. They even blocked a major highway. That's why classes were suspended for 10 days. When I spoke to police earlier today, they said the situation is very calm now.
26:01None of their officers are deployed because of the fact that a lot of students have gone back given that 10-day suspension. But whether the claims are true or not, and according to police right now, they haven't been able to verify the identity of the alleged victim, nor have they found any evidence after examining CCTV footage near the hostel. Whether these allegations are true or not, it's tapped into real anger amongst students across India about the fact that many women don't feel safe on their campuses or in their cities. And even earlier today, I attended a protest, one of multiple protests in the capital here in Delhi, about women's safety on university campuses because there have been a string of sexual assaults and alleged rapes that have made national headlines here.
26:50And so people say despite years of reforms and different initiatives, they haven't made a difference in women's own experiences out on the streets. Yeah, I mean, Azadeh, it's some 15 years since I covered the protests after that gang rape of Nirabaya. And of course, again, as you say, these allegations have been denied, but it does tap into this wider issue about the strength of feeling on issues now. You've covered those recent cockroach protests as well. It does, though the cockroach protests were about the government as well as exam leaks. The case that you're talking about was a watershed moment in 2012, the gang rape and murder of a 23-year-old woman on a bus in Delhi.
27:32And there have been reforms since then. and there have been harsher punishments for those who are convicted of rape crimes. But it's more than a decade later and there are still horrific cases that make headlines. Tens of thousands of rapes and sexual assaults are still reported every year and the conviction rates are less than 30%. That's why people are still protesting. And certainly right now that anger is being voiced by students across India. Azadeh Mishiri, great to have you on News Hour. Thank you for that update.
28:11You're listening to NewsHour from the BBC World Service. I'm Rajini Vaidyanathan. Here in the UK, police are continuing to question five men arrested on terror charges close to a military base in the west of England. RAF Fairford in Gloucestershire is also used by the US Air Force to launch attacks on Iran. Well, Tehran has categorically rejected any involvement over what is described as malicious speculation. We'll get into that in a moment, but first let's go over what we know. Well, on Sunday morning, a major police operation was launched close to the site. It appears the arrests were made after a tip-off from a member of the public, a farmer, who called police after she saw suspicious activity.
28:55Well, the BBC has spoken to her about what she witnessed. she wanted to remain anonymous so her words had been revoiced by a producer. I was coming home late from a party. On reaching our farm I found both the driveway and the road blocked by three white vans. We were aware that RAF Fairford was operating at a high security level and that civilian staff had been evacuated. We had noticed some activity from what I assumed were plain clothed police officers for the previous few days so initially I thought perhaps this was more of the same. I had no choice but to turn my vehicle around and return back the way I came.
29:33On driving a short distance from the vans, I saw a large group of hooded and masked men. When they saw me, they ran ahead of me, some into the field and some towards the neighbouring village of Kempsford. I then realised that something highly unusual was taking place. At 1.36am, I called 999 to report what I'd seen. Within 10 minutes, the village was full of armed police. And I believe that my 999 call foiled whatever plans they had. My impression was that they were fit and young. They were all wearing similar dark clothes. I'm just really keen to highlight that it appears someone really dropped the ball on this.
30:13Well, after that call to the police, and of course, those arrests later on Sunday, President Trump claimed that the US and UK authorities had in fact been working together to monitor a potential plot on the base. Working with Britain, it was an amazing job. We had them under investigation. They were looking to do big damage to our fort. And working with the British worked out great. It may have been Scotland Yard. I don't know. We worked with a lot of them. We had them under view for a long time and we got them. Let's hear from the British that he mentions there because this morning the UK Home Secretary, Wes Streeting, spoke to the BBC.
30:52I can this morning confidently say two things. Firstly, to that member of the public, thank you, because she did in an extraordinary situation what we ask members of the public to do, which is if you see something suspicious, to act quickly. And she did. And we thank her for that. Secondly, and respectfully to her, I would say that she had a partial picture. And I also want to say this morning in that spirit, an enormous thank you to our police, to our counter-terrorism police, to our security services, for the work they did in this situation to contain this. As we heard from the President of the United States, extraordinary people with extraordinary capability.
31:33And that's all I want to say this morning on that. That's the UK Home Secretary, Wes Streeting there. Well, I'm joined now in the studio by our security correspondent, Frank Gardner. Frank, we'll come to what we heard from the witness and the president in a moment. But first of all, we have had a bit more of an update on these five suspects. What more do we know? Yeah, so in the last couple of hours, there's been a statement put out by what's called Counterterrorism Policing, CTP, which is obviously an arm of British law enforcement. And they have said that all five of those arrested are from London.
32:07They are all UK nationals and they are all aged between 23 and 25. They're from different parts of London, from North London and Northwest London. They're not giving out any more than that. Now, inevitably, the speculation in this country is turning to who could have been behind this, who sent them, what plot was this, a Russian plot, was it an Iranian one, was it jihadists? The Iranian embassy has responded to all of this speculation, even though the UK government has not formally accused them, or at least if they have, they haven't done it publicly. they've responded by taking to X the platform formerly known as Twitter to say we are nothing to do with these people and we want to remind you that we will take an illegal action against anybody who accuses us of having anything to do with them.
33:00And Frank there seems to be a bit of a contradiction in what we played earlier because you have this farmer saying that she raised the alarm and that she saw all of this then you have the US president saying no we knew about this we've been working together. What do you make of all of that? Well, I know who I believe. It's the farmer. I mean, her account is utterly credible. And that woman deserves a medal. And I should say that the MOD police should, that's the Ministry of Defence Police, should hang their heads in shame for not answering that phone call. It's only, I mean, plenty of other people at one o 'clock in the morning would have thought, oh, well, I'll leave it to the morning.
33:36But she persevered and she did the right thing and called the emergency number 999, equivalent to 911 in the States. The only way I can see that sort of you could square this circle is that there was clearly some kind of raised security alert for that base, RAF Fairford in Gloucestershire, where US personnel are based, that had been in place for some days, for three or four days. So there was a heightened alert there. Now, clearly, maybe it was an exercise, maybe some bit of intelligence, some bit of snippet had been picked up by US intelligence. But the idea that these five men who were arrested had been under surveillance for a long time is not true.
34:24This was not an intelligence led operation. What is an intelligence led operation? That is where MI5, Britain's equivalent to the FBI, would be aware of a number of individuals. It would tap their phones, their cars. It would have them under surveillance. It'd have rotating teams of trackers, of watchers. Nothing like that applies in this case. This appears to be pure luck that this woman was able to spot them and did the very good citizenship thing she did. all praise to the police response who pounced really quickly. And that was good. They caught them, they arrested them, and they are being investigated now.
35:13They can be held for another 13, 12 or 13 days. Just very briefly, Frank, we know that there are five people being questioned. Is there a sense there could be a wider network? Well, one of the other inconsistencies in all of this, Ruchini, is that the same farmer that we just heard from said she is convinced that she saw eight to 10 men, not five. Now, the government is saying, no, no, we've got this lockdown. We've got everybody. It's contained. So unless there are three to five more people somewhere being held that we don't know about, which I think is unlikely that we don't really do that kind of thing in this country, then there is a discrepancy here, for sure.
35:59And, you know, I just, I'm not sure that the sort of, I think I trust sort of local eyewitnesses almost more than I do the authorities at the moment on this one. Okay, lots of contradictions, aren't there, Frank? And of course, more will hopefully be revealed. That's our security correspondent, Frank Gardner, joining me in the studio. Now, nearly a decade after the assassination of investigative journalist Daphne Caruana Galizia, Malta is still grappling with the questions her murders raised. In the wake of a landmark verdict in the high-profile case in which a wealthy businessman, Jorgen Fenwick, was acquitted of conspiracy and complicity in her killing, charges which he denied.
36:40Our correspondent, Anna Holligan, visited the island to examine the reaction it's triggered and the question that still divides the EU's smallest nation.
36:54Outside the court where the trial was held, hundreds of protesters have gathered.
37:03When Daphne died, that was the biggest shock and since then it's just been shock after shock after shock. If we don't stand up and fight and shout and scream, then nothing's going to change.
37:17Daphne lived at home with her husband and three sons here behind me in the rural hamlet of Bidnia. It was just before 3pm on the 16th of October 2017. She was driving down this road and less than a minute into the journey a powerful car bomb was detonated. Although five people were convicted for their roles in her murder, no one has been found guilty of commissioning her assassination. her family are still in the pursuit of justice. My mum would have just loved a garden like this. It must be your pride and joy now. One of her three sons, Matthew, still lives in the family home. Part of our fight is to get the Maltese government to develop more tools so that it is not as helpless as it has always been in the face of organised crime.
38:09Do you fear for your safety? Yes, I do. I live with that fear. Not far from the heart of the capital, Valletta, down at the marina, a reminder that this Mediterranean island enjoys a wealth of visitors. Super yachts jostle with small wooden taxi boats for space in the dock. Over the past decade, Malta has experienced extraordinary economic growth. International companies have been drawn here by access to the EU market, a favourable tax regime and a business-friendly environment. In her reporting, Daphne Caruana Galizia argued this same system created vulnerabilities that enabled corruption. When Daphne Caruana Galizia was killed, she was pursuing four major corruption investigations linked to money, power and influence in Malta.
39:06Daphne was a very divisive figure. Herman Gretsch is the editor of the Malta Times. You either loved Daphne or you hated Daphne. And I've rarely seen a writer cause so much entrenchment in society. There was no filter. What's at stake for Malta if the mastermind is never brought to justice? I fear this country will never rest. A new European fact-finding mission is preparing to meet the Maltese government. Shami Chakrabarti is the Council of Europe's special rapporteur, overseeing the Daphne Caruana Galizia case. There are concerns really about the strength and health of the rule of law itself in Malta.
39:45Malta's attorney general has appealed against the acquittal of Jürgen Fennec, claiming the verdict represents a miscarriage of justice. Jason Azapardi is one of the Caruana Galizia family lawyers. A journalist was assassinated because of her work. And when the state finally put somebody on trial for alleged complicity in that assassination, the integrity of the trial must be beyond question. Nothing less will do. Jürgen Fennec has denied the charges. We reached out to the Maltese government, but they declined to comment. The Prime Minister has said that Malta has made continued and improving progress in meeting the Council of Europe's recommendations.
40:26Daphne famously warned that the country was trapped in an inescapable culture clash between those who tolerated the status quo and those who fought to dismantle it. Nearly a decade after her assassination, the division she documented remains as palpable as ever. Perhaps the BBC's Anna Holligan reporting there from Malta. You're listening to the BBC World Service and this is NewsHour.
41:10This is Rajini Vaidynarvan with NewsHour, coming to you live from the BBC in London. It's estimated that around 8 ,500 North Korean soldiers are fighting in Ukraine in support of Russia's military. Early last year, two of them were captured by Ukrainian forces and recently sent to South Korea. But the transfer was kept secret until Ukraine's President Vladimir Zelensky went public at the UN last week. These guys are not easy to capture alive. One of them, when he realised he was going to be taken prisoner, tried to kill himself. And he was shocked that fate didn't let him die. Well, now South Korea's calling on President Zelensky to apologise for going public, accusing Ukraine of violating a non-disclosure agreement.
42:02South Korea's been a supporter of Ukraine, pledging$100 million worth of assistance. So what are the consequences of this diplomatic spat? Rafael Rashid's a Seoul-based freelance journalist. He began by telling me more about the reaction from South Korea. From South Korea's point of view, they might have wanted to keep this quiet because these men must have families back in North Korea who could be punished if the regime knows that they were sent to South Korea. And also Pyongyang has turned its soldiers in Russia into heroes, and they kind of expect the North Korean prisoners to kill themselves if they're captured.
42:43But if two of them are sent to Seoul, then that kind of undercuts the narrative. And at the moment, the president of South Korea is trying to restart talks with North Korea. So maybe Seoul didn't want to make a show of this and keep it quiet for the time being. And this has now created tensions between Ukraine and South Korea at the very highest level. You've got the president calling for Mr. Zelensky to apologise. How would you characterise the relationship between the two countries and how much damage could this latest episode do? I think the language that the two sides have been using is, I mean, at least from the South Korean side, is highly unusual.
43:24And South Korea and Ukraine maintain friendly relations. And I think they're meant to be on the same side in all of this. Seoul has condemned Russia's illegal invasion of Ukraine, has joined sanctions and has also recently pledged a$100 million support package to Kiev. In less than a week, we see President Li saying that he was very disappointed, accusing Ukraine of falsehoods because Ukraine said there was no arrangement and demanding an official apology. And now just in the last few hours, we've had the foreign ministry here in Seoul. They've gone further and they've summoned Ukraine's top diplomat in Seoul.
44:07So I think it's very rare for South Korea to publicly accuse a friendly government of lying. And I think part of the reason for all of this is politics at home. This comes at a time when his approval ratings are already extremely very low. Where does this go next? I mean, I think because South Korea is determined to retrieve an apology from Ukraine, I think Ukraine will have no choice but to give them what they want. Because at the end of the day, Kiev is keen on getting certain kind of weapons and interceptors and whatnot from South Korea, which is known for being a top exporter of weapons around the world.
44:50It has not provided any lethal weapons to Ukraine because it is trying to balance its relations with all sides. But I'm pretty sure that Kiev will want to maintain a good relation. So I'm guessing we will have some form of apology and hopefully this episode will disappear soon enough. That's Rafael Rashid there, a Seoul-based freelance journalist. Now, it's one of the world's most iconic highways, a bucket list journey for many. And in a few months from now, America's Route 66 celebrates its 100th birthday. But a century after it first captured America's imagination, does the highway known as the Mother Road still have the same draw?
45:37Victoria Craig has been heading west across the United States to discover with a nostalgia still drawing tourists and their dollars to towns along the route. Route 66 is a 2 ,500-mile stretch of concrete and pavement that runs from the bustling metropolis of Chicago, Illinois, all the way to the sandy west coast shores of Santa Monica, California. Our first stop is in Cuba, Missouri and the Wagon Wheel Hotel. Hi, welcome to the Wagon Wheel. It's been operating here for more than 90 years. It's where we meet Roman Rich Dinkola, a lifelong Route 66 enthusiast. He bought this historic Mother Road property, which is his second in April this year.
46:22This place represents so much. You've got the Ozark stone cottages, and people can come here. They can get a glimpse of what it was like in the 30s and 40s. Do you worry if there isn't more awareness raised, particularly for younger generations, who will eventually be the ones staying in this motel and others? I've been extremely worried about the Centennial, that we're going to see a lot of bad decisions, and we have. Several hours west in Clinton, Oklahoma, there's been a boom in visitors to the city's Route 66 museum. The Centennial gives us an opportunity to put our story back into a national conversation.
47:04That's museum director Corey Cart. It allows us to have a platform to talk about, just like we're doing now, the economic impact on communities. For instance, sales in our gift shop are up over 300 percent. We're also celebrating America's 250th. That's actually playing more into a lot of our visitors. And that is giving us a chance to tell the story to audiences that before have never considered Route 66. Indeed, Oklahoma's relationship to the Mother Road runs deep. Texas, Kansas, and other states look like moonscape after huge dark clouds of dust swept across fields and towns. During the depths of the Great Depression in the 1930s, an environmental disaster known as the Dust Bowl swept through America's southern plains.
47:54Tenant farmers pushed deep into poverty by severe drought and rapid agricultural modernization were forced off their land. Many of them went west along Route 66, searching for a better life in California. But they faced bitter class prejudice and hostility every step of the way. The early days of Route 66 are not a fun story. Where people really want to talk about it is that post-war, that open road represented freedom. And Route 66, it just kept reinventing itself. So how important now is Route 66 to Clinton's economy, would you say? If you look at the amount of restaurants and gift shops and things here in town that are either named after Route 66 or sell Route 66 souvenirs, it is a huge part of it.
48:41Lightning McQueen, the famous race car. We love you, Lightning! Pixar's 2006 animated hit Cars captured the nostalgia of the 1950s-era road trip culture for a new generation. Radiator Springs, where most of the Cars movie is set, is a fictional city, but it's based on many Route 66 towns like Seligman, Arizona. The reason there's even a town for her to visit is all thanks to one man, 99-year-old Angel Delgadillo, who is widely credited with saving the town from being quite literally wiped off the map after the interstate's introduction in the 80s. At about 2.30 in the afternoon, the town died.
49:25For 10 long years, you don't know what it is to be forgotten. It got difficult to put beans on the table. I had an idea of how to get the economy back, and that was to ask the state leaders just simply to make Route 66 historic from the 17 miles east of Seligman, exit 139, to the Arizona-California border. I discussed it with all my customers that would come in. I'd talk about it. It won't work. Nobody believed in it. No one believed me. It won't work. Why? We had to fight the government, and you're not going to win. Research from the National Travel Center organization shows the power of heritage tourism.
50:14It found that secondary roads like Route 66, if promoted, can drive up to$450 ,000 in visitor spending per mile each year. That's around$280 ,000 per kilometre. Though for remote stretches of road, capturing even a fraction of that is still a constant battle. That's Victoria Craig there on her route along Route 66. That ends this edition of NewsHour. Thanks to all of you for listening.
50:48What's it like to see an El Nino on the horizon? I'm Tristan Redmond, one of the hosts of the Global Story podcast from the BBC. And on today's show, we speak to a climate scientist who's worked for the US government predicting extreme weather events, like this year's El Nino. Of course I'm worried, because I know these extremes impact people, and you can't not be worried about that. What does he see coming? Search for The Global Story on bbc.com or wherever you get your podcasts.
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