In short
The episode is a BBC NewsHour roundup focused mainly on Ukraine’s war and its spillover effects. Topic 1: Ukraine’s air defence is running out. Guests/voices: Dan Johnson (BBC Ukraine correspondent) reports from a Kiev suburb hit by Russian missiles; Antonia Longford (Daily Telegraph journalist in Kiev) explains the scale of the interceptor shortage; Sarah Rainsford (BBC) reports on Russian POWs, including Ukrainians fighting for Russia.
Key claims
Ukraine is rapidly running out of Patriot/other ballistic interceptors; Russia’s ballistic barrages are increasingly not being shot down; civilian morale and logistics are being undermined; winter could bring power/heating outages.
Notable examples
Solomansky suburb devastation; Ukraine stopping publication of missile-tally data; empty Patriot launcher reportedly for ~6 weeks; Zelensky saying Kiev has 2.5 times fewer interceptors than in 2025. Topic 2: POW recruitment and conditions. Examples: Donbass men like Anton describe SMS “dead” messages; POW camp workshops making wooden coffins.
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Chapters
Tap a time to open that second in VOUpdate from Ukraine: Escalating Attacks
0:40 to 3:54
Reports on recent Russian strikes in Ukraine, civilian casualties, and the urgent appeal for defense support.
“Hello, welcome to NewsHour from the World Service, coming to you live from London.”
Shortage of Missile Defenses
3:54 to 7:54
Discussion on Ukraine's missile defense shortages and the impact of ongoing attacks.
“As Moscow ups its weapons production, many Ukrainians fear they could be facing an extremely difficult winter of danger and of power and water outages.”
Captured Soldiers and Their Stories
7:54 to 13:18
Insights from captured soldiers discussing their motivations and the current situation on the battlefield.
“to join its military and be sent to fight in Ukraine, but as the war escalates with no end in sight, There are increasing signs that Moscow is finding it harder to recruit the numbers it needs.”
Scientific Discovery: Fastest Star
13:18 to 14:01
A report on the discovery of the fastest star in the Milky Way and its implications for astronomy.
“You're with the BBC World Service live from London.”
Exploring Black Holes with Dr. Megan Argo
14:01 to 17:41
Learn about black holes, their mass, and how we observe them.
“Dr Megan Argo is an astrophysicist at the University of Lancashire here in England.”
The Gold Rush in Western Kenya
17:42 to 22:08
Discover the impact of a gold rush on a small community in Kenya.
“Now, a reported discovery of gold in a remote part of western Kenya has triggered a rush of fortune seekers from across the region, including from neighbouring Uganda.”
Piracy and Maritime Security in Somalia
22:09 to 26:19
Understand the recent surge in piracy off the coast of Somalia and its implications.
“Is the West Bank reaching a tipping point?”
Imran Khan's Health Update
26:20 to 28:00
Get the latest on Imran Khan's health and his recent hospital transfer.
“The BBC's Barbara Plett Usher reporting.”
Imran Khan's Health and Hospital Move
28:00 to 30:00
Discussion on Imran Khan's health status and the implications of his hospital transfer.
“to be assessed by a panel of doctors and Imran Khan's party wants him to be also assessed by his own personal physician to check on his health condition.”
Ebola Outbreak in the Democratic Republic of Congo
30:00 to 32:45
An update on the Ebola outbreak in the DRC, focusing on vaccination efforts and humanitarian challenges.
“A new batch of 70 ,000 doses of vaccine is being sent to the Democratic Republic of Congo to try to contain the fastest spreading outbreak of Ebola on record.”
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Challenges of Fighting Ebola
32:45 to 38:27
Discussion on the public health response to the Ebola outbreak and the difficulties faced by healthcare workers.
“one of the problems in tackling the outbreak of Ebola in the DRC is the relative invisibility of the crisis.”
Art's Role in Understanding War in Ukraine
38:27 to 42:00
Exploration of how art is used to convey the experiences of war in Ukraine, featuring insights from artists.
“She's a professor of global public health at Edinburgh University.”
The Importance of Art in Wartime
42:00 to 44:30
Discover how art, especially poetry, offers solace and meaning during war.
“I'm just in my mind, I'm just thinking of a young artist called Dasha Chechuskova.”
Voices of Resilience: Ukrainian Artists
44:30 to 46:25
Learn about the role of Ukrainian artists in expressing resilience amid conflict.
“because it interlaces just the normalcy of everyday life with just the utter extremity of war and the trauma that is just laced through presumably everything that you do, every breath that you take.”
Global Story Podcast Introduction
46:41 to 47:09
Introduction to the Global Story podcast discussing settler violence in the West Bank.
“Is the West Bank reaching a tipping point?”
Transcript
Automatic transcript. May contain errors.0:00This BBC podcast is supported by ads outside the UK. Is President Trump snubbing South Korea to reignite his friendly relationship with Kim Jong-un? I'm Asma Khaled, and I host the Global Story podcast from the BBC. The U.S. and South Korea have been close allies since the 1950s. But this week, Trump announced that the U.S. will substantially reduce joint military exercises with South Korea. He cited his very good relationship with North Korea's Kim Jong-un. For more, check out The Global Story on BBC.com or wherever you get your podcasts.
0:40Hello, welcome to NewsHour from the World Service, coming to you live from London. I'm Paul Henley. President Zelensky says that more than 600 emergency workers have been dealing with the aftermath of the latest Russian strikes on Ukraine today. In what has been a significant escalation in hostilities, 15 people were killed in the capital, Kiev, alone. The government's made a renewed appeal for more international help with defence. More on that soon. First, our Ukraine correspondent Dan Johnson reports from Kiev.
1:14This is Solomansky, a suburb in Kiev that was hit last night, and this neighbourhood has been almost entirely devastated. There are residential apartment blocks here reaching up eight or nine storeys. They've been hit by missiles, but somehow they're still standing. It looks like, from the pictures the emergency services were showing me, the missiles hit the roof, embedded in the building, then destroyed the flats essentially from the inside out. So all the windows are gone. Most of the flats look totally ruined, but the blocks are still standing. There's glass and debris right across the road.
1:49A huge number of emergency service workers here. And the residents, those who survived, are milling around trying to work out what's left. Valeria told me she's been living here for four years after moving from Mykolaiv when her house there was bombed. Welcome to my home. Is everybody safe? Yep. Right now, yep. That seems to be a miracle. Yep. just around the corner we found what looks like the focus of this strike and here the devastation is total an entire building has gone there are a number of cars here absolutely wrecked overturned scattered far and wide there's debris right across the ground over into the neighboring school covering the playing fields the school building has been damaged too it looks like this was the heating centre that provided heat to all these surrounding residential blocks.
2:46So even if people were able to move back into these homes, they're likely to be without power or heating for the foreseeable future. The mayor of Kiev, Vitaly Klitschko, turned up here this morning. I managed to grab a quick word with him. It's very important to be strong. It's very important to have support from our partners because together we are times stronger. In a way, there is a reason to destroy critical infrastructure, especially in last winter. Let people are freezing, living without heating, electricity, water. It's just one goal. Break the resistance of Ukrainians and the dream of Putin.
3:23We have to give up. It's never happened. We're ready to fight. The air defences of this country are overstretched, aren't they? You're running out of the Patriot missile interceptors. How desperate is that situation? We need ammunition, we need anti-missile systems, we need support from our partners, because it's protection for our civilians, it's the life of our citizens. Dan Johnson reporting, and as he said, Ukraine is rapidly running out of missiles capable of intercepting Russian ballistic strikes. As Moscow ups its weapons production, many Ukrainians fear they could be facing an extremely difficult winter of danger and of power and water outages.
4:04Antonia Longford's a journalist in Kiev who reports on Ukraine for the UK's Daily Telegraph newspaper. Earlier I asked her how obvious it was that Kiev was increasingly lacking the weapons to defend itself. Yeah, I would say it's extremely noticeable. So Russia is attacking currently at a rate of about once every three or four days, normally with these huge ballistic barrages, which come with little to no notice and cause quite widespread damage across the city. And we're seeing time and time again that none of those ballistic missiles are being shot down. I think a good illustration of how dire the situation has been is that Ukraine's air force, which usually posts kind of a tally of each attack in terms of the missiles launched and the missiles that they've managed to take down, stop publishing this data for fear that it could damage public morale.
4:49That's actually now being restored after a great deal of public backlash, but I think it gives a sense of how much fear there is. How bad is the shortage of missile interceptors and how come? So in terms of actual figures, that's quite a closely guarded secret, but it seems to be quite sort of about as bad as it could get. So Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy told CNN last week that Kiev has two and a half times fewer interceptors than it had in 2025. And Ukrainian officials also showed CNN an empty Patriot launcher system just outside Kiev, which they said had been empty for around six weeks.
5:21in terms of obviously how this is playing out for civilians. We've seen civilian deaths rising month on month to levels not seen since the early days of the full-scale invasion. And that's largely driven by kind of the destructiveness of these long-range aerial attacks. And in terms of reasons for it, there's kind of myriad reasons. Obviously, there are kind of global shortages of these weapons. And there's this obviously ongoing dispute between Kiev and Washington over whether Kiev should be granted the licenses to produce patriots itself. Right, so that partly rules out the supply of alternatives, or at least manufacturing alternatives.
5:56How much is down to increased demand because of the Iran war? I think the Iran war has certainly been a huge factor in that. Stockpiles have really been pushed down because of the somewhat sort of gluttonous use of these interceptors in the conflict with Iran. There were reports earlier this month, for example, that the US military had burned through half of its Patriot interceptors in that war since February. And it's also consumed four fifths of its terminal high altitude area defense missile inventory, which is another anti-ballistic system. These interceptors have an extremely long production cycle and only around 600 are produced per year.
6:29So that kind of exacerbates this quite serious scarcity. And beyond begging for more, what options does Ukraine have? Well, I think there are options being posited. So for example, there's the pan-European anti-ballistic system, which is being called Freya, but it's still not realistic to assume this could come anytime soon. Ukraine's also making quite a concerted effort to fight back against these shortages it has on the defence side by hitting Russian missile launches on Russian soil. And we've seen a kind of quiet campaign aiming to achieve that. And what's worse potentially for Ukraine, that the shortages of these weapons could make them lose the war potentially or that they undermine civilian morale to a point that Russia would presumably celebrate?
7:17Well, I think they certainly undermine civilian morale. We've seen that in Kyiv. Again, these high levels of civilian casualties. We've also seen them affecting kind of logistics. I've noticed myself in Kyiv, supermarket shelves increasingly empty. We've also seen them striking energy infrastructure that's in preparation for their winter campaign, and that will certainly make winter the hardest it's been for Ukraine since the start of the full-scale war. But obviously, of course, any intensive missile campaigns targeting rail hubs and supply depots complicates kind of fuel, ammunition and reserves, which go to troops on the front line as well.
7:52Antonia Longford. Russia offers men the equivalent of tens of thousands of pounds to join its military and be sent to fight in Ukraine, but as the war escalates with no end in sight, There are increasing signs that Moscow is finding it harder to recruit the numbers it needs. Russian soldiers recently captured in Ukraine have confirmed that, and they've talked of a high casualty rate. The BBC visited a prisoner of war camp to see the conditions there and to meet some of the men waiting to be sent home in the next exchange of soldiers. But not all of them were Russian, as Sarah Rainsford reports.
8:28In western Ukraine, behind layers of locked gates, There's a camp full of soldiers captured fighting for Russia. But I went there to meet the Ukrainians who went to war against their own country. So just come into the prison yard, coils of barbed wire and cameras everywhere. There are a few dozen prisoners of war in navy blue uniforms and with caps. They've just all headed for the shadows because it's baking hot here. Speaking to men in captivity is complicated. But when there's no access to soldiers in Russia itself, it does help reveal the dynamics of this war, and it helps explain what drives the people fighting it.
9:18But anyone who agreed to speak, I interviewed far from any guards and without a camera.
9:26Anton was born in eastern Ukraine. a part of the Donbass that's been controlled by Moscow since 2014. The year that Vladimir Putin escalated to a full-scale invasion, Anton turned 18 and he signed up to fight immediately for Russia. I don't regret my choice. I went to defend my land. So did all his friends. They all went to different units. Then you get the SMS messages. Dead, dead, dead. Other prisoners tell me the same, that everyone they went to fight with has been killed and that fewer men are now volunteering to replace them. When Ukrainian-born soldiers like Anton are captured, they're tried for treason.
10:15But Anton doesn't see himself as a traitor. An entire generation has now grown up in occupied areas with Russian schooling and with media controlled by the Kremlin. Anton has absorbed all of it, and like Russia, he calls the government in Kiev Nazis. He also thinks Vladimir Putin should keep pushing to control the whole Donbass, even though hundreds of thousands have already been killed trying. Of course I think it could have cost a lot less, but war is war. It could have been ended, but no one wanted to do that.
10:56In the prison hospital, there was another man from the Donbass, wrapped in bandages. Artem signed up to fight on the promise of a big cash bonus, but he never got it. And now he has a body full of shrapnel.
11:16I've got inside a workshop here in the prison camp. And I've just seen what these men are making. These Russian prisoners of war are mass-producing wooden coffins.
11:33In the next workshop, I met a drug dealer making artificial Christmas trees. Konstantin said he had one reason only for going to fight. It got him out of jail. For me, 15 years in prison was too much. I know it probably doesn't excuse me, but it's a fact. But he would be killing Ukrainians, I said, fighting the country he was born in. I see nothing good in any war, and in a war like this, there can be nothing good, by definition. But he still thinks he was right to fight, although he says everyone he knows has now had enough.
12:20The prisoners are fighting into the dining hall now with their heads bowed and their hands behind their backs. As they eat, there's a film playing on a loop which describes itself as the truth about Crimea, basically an attempt to counter Russia's claim that the peninsula has always been Russian, although I can't say anyone's paying it much attention.
12:47Ukraine's real focus is on these men's practical value, because potentially they can be swapped to bring Ukraine's own soldiers home. Only when it comes to the negotiations, it turns out that the men from the Donbass who risked everything for Russia are way down Moscow's priority list. Konstantin says only a handful of them have been swapped so far, and he thinks they'll be the very last to leave here. Sarah Rainsford reporting from Ukraine. You're with the BBC World Service live from London. This is NewsHour.
13:30Astronomers in Germany have discovered the fastest star in the Milky Way. The star, named S301, travels at 25 ,000 kilometres a second around the supermassive black hole that sits at the centre of our galaxy. Scientists at the Max Planck Institute for Extraterrestrial Physics say it orbits so dangerously close to the black hole that it could help to explain the properties of that black hole and to test Albert Einstein's theory of relativity. Dr Megan Argo is an astrophysicist at the University of Lancashire here in England. She specialises in supernovas and black holes, and I asked her first to put this finding into context.
14:12A black hole, this is a supermassive black hole, so it's one of the largest black holes that we know of. It's certainly the biggest black hole by far in our galaxy, and it weighs about four million times the mass of our sun. So this is, by our local standards, this is a very, very massive object. And what massive objects do is they actually distort the fabric of space-time that's around them. So the sun distorts the fabric of space-time in the solar system, and we can measure that on our local scales. But this being, you know, four million times heavier distorts space-time in a much more significant way.
14:49And the closer you are to something that's this massive, the faster you are moving. How do we know that it's moving that fast? How do we track it? We track it using sensitive telescopes. So these observations were carried out by the very large telescope, which is actually multiple telescopes on a mountaintop in Chile. And what the VLT does is it actually combines the light from four separate telescopes to effectively synthesize a much bigger telescope. So it's equivalent to having an optical telescope that's 120 meters in diameter. And the size of that telescope not only gives you good sensitivity, but it also gives you very, very good resolution.
15:26So effectively very, very tiny pixels that lets you see lots and lots of detail at the distance of this object. And the importance of this star, I understand, is in what it tells us about the black hole. Explain, if you can. Yeah, that's right. So we've been watching stars orbit the black hole in the centre of our galaxy, called Sagittarius A star. We've been watching this for many, many years now. And this one is exciting because it's the fastest one we've observed, but it's also the one that passes the closest to the black hole. And the reason that's really important is because we can use the orbits of these stars that go around the black hole to measure the mass of the black hole.
16:05That's how we know it's 4 million times the mass of the sun. But one of the really tricky parameters about black holes that we don't have a good handle on because it's so hard to measure is how fast they spin and in what direction they're spinning. And if you have a star that passes close enough, and we think this one is passing close enough, you can actually take a measurement of how that black hole is spinning. And that gives us, apart from anything else, gives us another way to test Einstein's general theory of relativity. It's been tested loads of times in loads of different ways, but lots of experiments to test it make it more robust as a theory.
16:40So the fact that this pass is so close to that black hole is going to allow us to measure the spin of the black hole over the next sort of 10, 20 years and do another high precision test of general relativity. And for those who aren't closely acquainted with Einstein's theory of general relativity what exactly is being tested here general relativity describes essentially gravity and how things behave in gravitational fields and it's how we understand the details of the motions of our planets in our solar system there are ways you can measure them involving older simpler bits of physics but they don't explain fully the motions of the planets in the solar system only the corrections that you apply from general relativity actually allow you to measure them in detail.
17:28So it's a really, it's one of the most detailed ways we have of understanding the gravity and the forces that gravity plays on objects in the universe. That was Dr Megan Argo, who's an astrophysicist from the University of Lancashire. She specialises in supernovas and black holes.
17:54Now, a reported discovery of gold in a remote part of western Kenya has triggered a rush of fortune seekers from across the region, including from neighbouring Uganda. Hundreds have arrived in a village called Cheporor in West Pokot County, hoping to strike gold and enrich themselves. But the sudden influx is putting pressure on a community that has little infrastructure and it's raising concerns about security and safety, as the BBC's Akisa Wanderer reports. Before sunrise, the digging begins in this remote village in western Kenya. Hundreds of people are searching for something they hope will change their lives, gold.
18:40Some hack at the rocky ground with holes and shovels, others sift mud and sand along a nearby riverbank, watching closely for even the smallest speck of gold. Just a few weeks ago, Cheporor was a quiet, sparsely populated community. Today, it is the centre of a gold rush. Residents say the rush began earlier this month after reports emerged that gold had been discovered here. Manase Lomachar says he was among the first residents to get the gold. I was looking for a goat that had gone missing. We thought it had given birth somewhere in the bushes. That's when I came across some women who were paning for gold in the water.
19:26I joined them in the search and that's how we discovered there was gold in this area. News of the discovery spread quickly. Within days, thousands of prospectors had arrived. West Pokot's Deputy County Commissioner Samuel Kiari told the BBC social media helped fuel the influx. We had approximately 10 ,000 people from all over the area, from neighboring counties and even from the neighboring country of Uganda. And the number has drastically reduced to average 2 ,500 people because, you know, the expectations were so high. The village has been transformed almost overnight. But was there really gold to be found?
20:13I can confirm because when we went there, traders in gold. They told us every day they are getting an average of 100 people who are selling gold to them. But unfortunately, the amount of gold might not be so huge. Among those drawn here is Ugandan artisanal miner Mugisha Godfrey. We sleep under the trees and when morning comes, we continue working. Sometimes we work both day and night. As for going back home, we can't return unless we find something. The rush has also created opportunities for traders who've travelled hundreds of kilometres to sell food, water and basic supplies to the growing population.
21:02One of them is Irene Ameja, who came from a neighboring county hoping to earn enough money to expand her business. By the sudden, population boom is exposing the area's lack of infrastructure. There is limited access to clean water, few sanitation facilities and growing concerns about safety, particularly for women. This is a forest and we're in the middle of the mountains. We don't have clean water to drink or even bathe. For women, the biggest challenge comes in the evening or at night. You'll have to find somewhere safe to go and stay because most of the people sleeping here are men. Local authorities say security has been reinforced while health and sanitation measures are being expanded.
21:48And although many prospectors have already left after finding little or no gold, others remain undeterred. For those still digging in Cheporor, the possibility of a life-changing discovery is reason enough to keep searching. The BBC's Akisa Wanda are reporting there from Western Kenya. This is the BBC World Service and NewsHour, live from London.
22:22I'm Paul Henley and this is NewsHour.
22:28Is the West Bank reaching a tipping point? I'm Asma Khaled, and I host the Global Story podcast from the BBC. For more than a week, homes in the village of Qusrat have been under siege, including one of a Palestinian-American man from Ohio. It's just the latest to draw attention to the rise of settler violence in the West Bank, which the UN says is higher than at any point in the last 20 years. For more, listen to The Global Story on BBC.com or wherever you get your podcasts.
22:59Welcome back to NewsHour. A tanker off the coast of Yemen has been seized by armed men who've diverted it towards Somalia. The vessel was in the Gulf of Aden when it was approached by an unauthorised boat and sent out a distress call. It also coincides with Iran's threats to get its Houthi allies in Yemen to block shipping in the Red Sea. The BBC's Barbara Plett Usher in Nairobi told me first what had happened to that ship. So according to maritime security agencies, a ship was boarded by six armed men in the Gulf of Aden off the coast of Yemen, and then they redirected it toward the coast of Somalia.
23:42and what we understand is that this is a Comoros-flagged oil tanker. So that's what we know so far about what has happened. But it should be said that this suggests action by Somali pirates, especially if it's heading towards Somalia. And in that case, it would be the second hijacking of a ship already this week. Another one was taken over on Monday. So that's the information we have and it is against the backdrop of an uptick in Somali pirate activities since about April. What should we make of that uptick? Should we read anything into it? There's lots of different elements to the reason why Somalis might have gone back to piracy.
24:26One is local conditions. There's been illegal foreign trawlers overfishing off the coast of Somalia. So you have quite a large number of foot soldiers prepared to do this kind of thing again because their livelihoods are at stake. I think another possibility might be opportunity. I think there's been increased traffic along the coast of Somalia in the western Indian Ocean, into which the Gulf of Aden empties, and that's because the Strait of Hormuz has been blocked. So there isn't a direct connection to the Strait of Hormuz crisis that we can see, but I think there's been a broader deterioration of regional maritime security, as the focus has mostly shifted towards that area.
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25:02And then you also have the question of Yemen. So there have been reports on at least one recent occasion of Yemenis coordinating with the Somali pirates, which is unusual. It's not confirmed. The reason was not clear. But we do know that Iran has threatened to get its Yemen Houthi allies to disrupt shipping. So that is something that defense analysts are watching. And we do know there is a firm link between the Houthi rebels in Yemen and Iran. They're seen as a proxy of the Iranian government. So that would be an intriguing link that defence analysts are looking into, wouldn't it? It suggests a possible coordination relevant to Iran and the situation in the Strait of Hormuz.
25:41It does suggest a possible coordination relevant to Iran. I would be cautious about that because there are so many other factors that would probably take priority over that. But because the Iranians have threatened to disrupt shipping in the Red Sea, which flows into the Gulf of Aden, and because they have essentially indicated that they had alerted their Houthi allies to be ready to take action if they wanted to do that, then those kinds of connections are looked at quite closely. I think that you have a general deterioration in maritime security in the region, which is probably more directly affecting the opportunities that the Somali pirates have.
26:20The BBC's Barbara Plett Usher reporting.
26:28You're listening to NewsHour from the BBC. I'm Paul Henley. In the past hour or so, we've heard that the former Pakistani Prime Minister Imran Khan has been moved out of the prison where he was being held and has been taken to a private hospital for medical check-ups. It comes after the country's Supreme Court ruled that he should be moved to hospital. The BBC's Caroline Davis is outside the medical facility, which is in Islamabad. Caroline, it's the middle of the night where you are. Tell us what's happened. It is. And so we were hearing from Imran Khan's political party, the PTI. They have said that Imran Khan has been shifted here to the hospital, that he's already arrived here at the hospital.
27:11However, we have not had official confirmation yet from any of the authorities and the police from the hospital itself. So at the moment, we're just hearing that from his political party. But of course, there's been a lot of anticipation about this over the course of the last few days since the Supreme Court judgment was made on Tuesday. The decision was made after there had been a health report about Mr Khan. And it mentioned various things in that report, including fluctuating blood pressure, anxiety, palpitations as well. and as a recommendation that was made as well as sort of medicines and a suggestion that Mr Khan should be allowed to see his family who for the vast majority of his outside family he's not been able to see for months and months on end as well.
27:58The recommendation was also that he was shifted here to Shifa Hospital in Islamabad to be assessed by a panel of doctors and Imran Khan's party wants him to be also assessed by his own personal physician to check on his health condition. They have said that this is particularly important given that so few people have been able to see Mr Khan in the course of the last few months. And it is being seen as quite a significant development because Mr Khan has obviously been in prison for just over three years now. And despite there being regular court hearings during that time, he's had very little relief from the court.
28:35So the fact that this has been announced, the fact that he is meant to be moved to the hospital and is only a relatively short stay. The expectation is that this will be until the next court hearing, which is in the middle of September. But even that small move and the suggestion that he should be allowed to meet family members is being seen as a significant shift here for Mr Khan. And it has led to speculation about what might be going on potentially behind the scenes. But in terms of that, we really don't know. At the moment, we are all waiting to see whether or not Mr Khan is confirmed to have arrived here in the hospital.
29:12There's a big security presence, I hear, there. Why? Yes, I mean, I'm currently standing, as I say, just outside, and this entire area has been completely sealed off. There are police barricades, there are police, there is armoured vehicles, police cars, so any of the emergency vehicles that might normally be coming to the hospital have been stopped. And I think that is in anticipation of potentially Mr Khan's supporters coming here. we know that the court said that they did not want to have major press conferences being held outside and turned into a big political event. So perhaps that might be it, or it could just be a matter of Mr Khan's security, but certainly there is a big police presence here.
29:53The BBC's Caroline Davis, thank you, reporting live from Islamabad. This is the World Service and NewsHour. A new batch of 70 ,000 doses of vaccine is being sent to the Democratic Republic of Congo to try to contain the fastest spreading outbreak of Ebola on record. The vaccines were developed in response to a previous strain of the disease and most of them are being administered to frontline health workers in the hope that they might be effective. 20 ,000 doses will be allocated for a clinical trial in the country. Meanwhile, vaccine trials for the current strain of the disease have been authorised here in the UK and in Canada, but results are probably still months away.
30:35Trish Newport is a Canadian emergency and medical coordinator for the aid agency Médecins Sans Frontières in Bunia, the city in the northeast of the DRC, which is worst affected by the outbreak. She describes here how they're trying to treat people in this update sent specially to the BBC. Today was a very busy day. We have a project that was there even before Ebola in a place called Fataki. And we work in a displacement camp for about 80 ,000 people. It's horrible. It is the most horrific humanitarian situation I have seen in a very, very long time. 80 ,000 people living in very cramped, horrible conditions.
31:17And then Ebola started. And so we built this eight bed Ebola treatment center about an hour away from the camp. And in the last few weeks, the numbers have just exploded. So we just scaled up to 20 beds. And it's easy to say scale up, but it's difficult to actually do. Because then you have to find all of those staff and then we need to be training them, making sure that they can work in a safe environment. And then making sure that everything that needs to be happening around an Ebola treatment center is also happening. Because an Ebola treatment center doesn't just work on its own. You actually need to have surveillance.
31:53You need to have contact tracing. You need to be able to decontaminate the homes that people are coming from, have ambulance referrals. And today, these things just are not happening. There's just not enough organizations to be doing it. So with all of these new Ebola cases, we've been having to scale up every single one of these activities and not forget the absolute humanitarian disaster in the Planned Seville camp. And then something a bit more joyous is we have an Ebola treatment centre in Mongulu. Mongulu is where the outbreak actually started. And right now we have 95 people that have survived Ebola from Mongulu.
32:31And so we spent time thinking about how to celebrate the day that we actually have 100 survivors and how to celebrate with the community because this is really big news for them. Trish Newport from Médecins Sans Frontières. one of the problems in tackling the outbreak of Ebola in the DRC is the relative invisibility of the crisis. Devi Sridhar is Professor of Global Public Health at the University of Edinburgh. She has written extensively about what is happening and I asked her why she thought this outbreak of Ebola was getting so much less international attention than a previous one in West Africa in 2014.
33:09Yeah, it's really puzzling because actually, like, I think back to working on the 2014 outbreak and the number of media articles. Ebola was, I think, the most Googled news term in the world that year. And, you know, it was almost every day, newspaper headlines, magazine covers. And, you know, this outbreak is, you know, on track to be possibly, you know, the second worst or the worst on par with that. And, yeah, I think it's because everyone's just tired of disease, possibly after the pandemic, maybe COVID-19 fatigue, where people got day after day about infectious disease news. and mortality rates and community transmission.
33:47And so possibly now no one really wants to hear about infectious diseases. And that maybe drives also the various media producers to think, actually, should we cover this or should we maybe cover something else? And yet when you look at the bald facts, nearly 5 ,000 confirmed cases and near 50 % death rate, it's pretty shocking, isn't it? Yeah, it's bad. The situation is bad. It's also because this is a particular species a new one to the area where we do not have a vaccine, we don't have approved antivirals. But also it's happening in the Entori province in the DRC, which is, you know, a province that has been plagued by conflict.
34:27Already even regular health care services think, you know, routine childhood immunizations or child survival campaigns have struggled to reach people. And so it's both the actual virus, but adding on top where it's happening and how difficult that is for, you know, a public health effort to take place in that kind of current political and economic environment. The public health effort isn't the coordinated international one that it was in 2014, though, is it? Yeah, so if I think back to 2014, you know, you had real leadership from the United States, from the UK, the French governments, they came together with the World Health Organization to say, like, how do we stop this?
35:05And they brought, you know, military-like coordination, the resources, trained personnel to basically say, we need to stop this and actually get on top of it. And if I look at what's happening today, you have, you know, a United States, which is no longer part of the WHO, or working multilaterally, doing a go-it-alone response, where they are making efforts on Ebola, but very much in the context of defunding foreign aid, the closure of USAID, you know, a real focus on domestic health issues, which are largely chronic issues. And so you have that. The UK is facing its own challenges since Brexit and, you know, with domestic issues and the war in Ukraine.
35:41I mean, we're in a completely different political environment right now, which makes it very hard to get that collective action globally to make this a priority and try to get the necessary resources in. There is a ray of hope, isn't there, that vaccine and antiviral work is underway, delivering a vaccine that might help people on the ground and trialling a vaccine that is more suited to this particular strain of Ebola. But it all hinges on the work of frontline workers, doesn't it? Completely, because a vaccine is only as good if actually people take it, right? There's no point having vaccines that are approved sitting around when actually people are not willing to take a vaccine and believe that it will help them.
36:23So it's in a really tricky situation right now because we don't have an approved one. So the two options are either to try to use early trials of a Bundy Bugio vaccine for the species that Oxford has developed. But of course, we don't yet know the effectiveness of that. It's very new. Or using the vaccine we have for the Zaire strain or some kind of mix of the Zaire and Sudan vaccine. vaccine, the problem that you're facing is that you don't want people to feel like they're guinea pigs and that they're being used to test something externally, because that has been, unfortunately, the experience of people, you know, in this part of the world over the past 40, 50 years.
36:58And so I think there is a real skepticism about external help of actually, what are you trying to trial and who is that for? And so this is what makes careful when you go in that actually you have to go in with trust that what you're doing, you actually feel is going to be a benefit to those patients, that the communities will trust it. And that comes down to frontline workers. And you have to be quite brave, to say the least, to be a frontline health worker in the Democratic Republic of Congo. Not only are you putting yourself at risk from a deadly virus, you're also facing extreme public distrust and sometimes violence.
37:29Completely. I mean, you're facing violence from actually the loved ones of Ebola patients because they want to protect the body. They don't want, you know, they don't trust if you're coming to try to remove the body. And we do know burials are one way where Ebola does spread, given it's through bodily fluids. You're also facing roaming militias and general kind of devastation in that region. But on top of that, we've seen recently that payments to health care workers have been, you know, delayed, which means you're not even getting paid at a local rate for the work that you're doing. So it's a really difficult situation.
37:58And it's why also we're seeing that quite a few of the deaths are of people who are not even making it to hospital. They're out in the community. and that's why I think we're seeing such a high death rate but also what's really worrying because if they're happening in the community that means where there might be more cases out there that we're not picking up and that the spread is wider and we're not having that line of sight of actually where are these cases where at least if people come to health clinic or hospital you have some kind of way to track it. Devi Sridhar there on the outbreak of Ebola in the Democratic Republic of Congo.
38:27She's a professor of global public health at Edinburgh University.
38:39I'm Paul Henley and this is NewsHour. We're going to talk finally on the programme about the role of art in bringing home awareness of a distant crisis, such as the one happening in Ukraine. After four and a half years of war, even today's news of 15 killed in Kiev can seem unrelatable, which is where our next two guests come in. Charlotte Higgins is the chief culture writer for The Guardian newspaper. Her book Ukrainian Lessons, Art in a Time of War, is published today. One of the Ukrainian artists she features in it is called Irina Tzilik and she's a poet and filmmaker. My colleague Tim Franks began by asking Charlotte what an arts journalist was doing in a war zone.
39:21I just know from history that the way wars tend to be remembered actually is not so much through historiography or even news reports, but actually through art, through poetry, through painting. And I think that's very, very clear in the way the British particularly remember the First World War. So I just knew in my bones that Ukrainian artists would be responding to and reacting to the war in really interesting ways that would go beyond what journalists can do and certainly what the sort of official political reports would do. And the second reason was that it was very clear to me that culture was completely bound up in this war in a very clear way.
40:02I mean, literally, Vladimir Putin wrote an essay the summer before the full-scale invasion of Ukraine in which he set out these false ideas, really, that Ukraine and Russia were one culture, were one history, were one identity. and that clearly is rejected by Ukraine. But language, history, culture and identity are completely bound up in the war. So it felt to me that to leave that aspect of the war unreported would be to leave a whole kind of area of possible understanding of what was going on a blank. Irina, tell me how you define yourself as an artist and your relationship with Charlotte as well.
40:45Well, I'm a Ukrainian filmmaker. First of all, I make documentary fiction, but also animated films. At the same time, I write because I'm a poet, I'm an essayist. And I don't remember, to be honest, how we met with Charlotte for the first time. Probably she did the interview with me. And then we became almost good friends. So we are in contact. I want to come back to some of your work and particularly a poem of yours, Irina. But Charlotte, in terms of the relationships that you struck up with Ukrainian artists, what was it that you learned about war, seeing it in the field and seeing it through the prism of art?
41:32that's a hard question to answer Tim I thought that being an arts journalist in the frame of war I would somehow be insulated from the most brutal aspects of warfare which of course that's absolutely true I I'm not doing military journalism but actually what I hadn't understood is that art good art like arena's poems and films um like so much of the extraordinary visual art I'm just in my mind, I'm just thinking of a young artist called Dasha Chechuskova. I'm thinking now of a young artist who was killed in the line of duty called Maharita Polovinco. Those artists bring you so close to the emotional world of living under a war.
42:20And that's kind of very tender and fragile and difficult, often material. I suppose the overwhelming lesson is something that I knew already in a sense, but have understood in a much more visceral way, which is that art is unbelievably important. And that although poetry may not be the first thing you turn to when your family is in danger, it's absolutely not the last thing. And there's been an extraordinary outpouring of poetry in Ukraine because there's a sense in which poetry can try and grasp hold of the collapsing fragments of the world and make some kind of temporary sense out of them. And that's one of the things that Irina does so beautifully in her poems.
43:06And Irina, on that point, it seems like a perfect moment to ask you to read your poem that's in the book by Charlotte, My Day. Yes, I'd love to. And this is a short poem, which is actually quite simple. But at the same time, it somehow conveys about how we live today in Kiev. My day. How was your day? How are you doing? You ask, and I'm thinking. At four in the morning, I was walking up by a nair-raid siren. I lay down in the corridor with my son, listening to missiles fly overhead. You can't mistake this sound for anything else. But the Russian roulette didn't go as planned. I slept for another hour, read the news about the number of people killed, Cooked pancakes for my son.
43:57Went to a hero's funeral. Saw a woman feeding birds from her hand. Cried in the park. Received a romantic message from the front line. Had doubts in the supermarket. Pinot Noir or Zinfandel. Made dinner. Wrote to a girlfriend who is recovering from a battle wound. Watched a TV show. Wept in the shower. A typical day overall. I'm fine. I'm fine. I'm fine. Thank you. It's an incredibly affecting poem because it interlaces just the normalcy of everyday life with just the utter extremity of war and the trauma that is just laced through presumably everything that you do, every breath that you take.
44:48Yeah, this is what happens to people which live in the country which is at war for 12 years already. So, you know, we somehow adapted and we live normal lives, but at the same time, it's not normal at all. Charlotte, one of the challenges, I guess, for you is that war is such a strange and brutal business. It can feel very, very distant. One of the things, and we just heard it in that poem, is that art has a way of cutting through that. Yes, completely. And I try to use myself as a kind of maker of connections between our own history, thinking about literatures of other times and places and connecting that to the literature that's being produced in Ukraine now.
45:40Ukrainian artists are doing such an extraordinary job of opening up this vulnerability and the sense of what it is to live under these conditions. And, you know, hoping to introduce readers in Britain to that. And I hope to go further and then read poetry by Irina, by poets like Oksana Maximchuk, Irina Shavalova and Arthur Dron. There's wonderful literature and there's extraordinary art out there, which is often devastating. And yet the very act of creating it and the very fact of its existence, I think, is hopeful. It is Ukrainians sort of asserting themselves, insisting on their existence and demanding that their experience be heard and taken seriously.
46:25British arts journalist Charlotte Higgins and Ukrainian documentary maker Irina Tzilik bringing to a close this edition of NewsHour for a Thursday night UK time. Thank you for listening.
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From the publisher
15 people were killed in a Russian strike on Kyiv today, and the Ukrainian government has made an urgent request for more interceptor missiles. We hear from the BBC’s correspondent on the ground in the capital.
Also on the programme: a new batch of 70,000 vaccines is being sent to the Democratic Republic of Congo to try to contain the fastest-spreading outbreak of Ebola on record.
And the 26-year-old car salesman who has been recognised as Belgian royalty after a DNA test proved he was the son of Prince Laurent.
(Image: Smoke rises in Kyiv during a Russian drone strike, August 20, 2026 Credit: REUTERS/Oleksandr Ratushniak)
