Israel announces counter-measures to UK sanctions

8 Sep 2026 · 47 min · 24 chapters

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In short

The episode is a BBC NewsHour roundup focused mainly on Israel/UK sanctions and related diplomacy. Topic: The UK (with 11 other countries) announces counter-measures against Israeli settlement activity in the occupied West Bank, including an import ban on goods from illegal settlements and targeted sanctions against companies/individuals providing services (construction, infrastructure, financing, real estate) for settlement expansion.

Key claims

UK Foreign Secretary Ed Miliband says the occupation is unlawful per a 2024 ICJ ruling and that settler violence amounts to ethnic cleansing; Israel’s Foreign Minister Gideon Saar calls the UK move election interference and “outrageous lies.”

Notable examples

Israel closes the British consulate in Jerusalem; removes UK from a Gaza support center; ends UK training of Palestinian Authority forces; denies entry to 12 UK officials.

Guest backgrounds

Tom Keating (director, Centre for Finance and Security, RUSI); Alex Ballinger (Labour MP, Foreign Affairs Select Committee); David Mensah (Israeli PM office spokesman).

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Chapters

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Israel's Changing Diplomatic Landscape

0:00 to 0:53

Explore how Israel's actions in the West Bank have prompted UK sanctions.

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Israel's Changing Diplomatic Landscape

1:57 to 4:04

Explore how Israel's actions in the West Bank have prompted UK sanctions.

“It's coming to you live from the BBC World Service studios in central London.”

UK's Sanctions Announcement

4:04 to 6:41

Details on the UK's decision to impose sanctions on Israeli settlements.

“Our position is not just an overdue statement of reality.”

Israeli Response to Sanctions

6:41 to 8:00

Learn about Israel's retaliation against the UK's sanctions and measures.

“Just be clear about that first measure, the closure of the British consulate in East Jerusalem.”

Analysis of Sanction Impact

8:00 to 10:11

Experts discuss the potential implications and challenges of the UK sanctions.

“There was also the promise of a ban on services, on those who were involved in any way in financing or supporting the settlement enterprise.”

Political Reactions in the UK

10:11 to 14:01

Listen to UK MPs discuss the moral implications and political motivations behind the sanctions.

“The actions of Israel in the West Bank, in Gaza, in Lebanon, they're clear breaches of international law.”

UK Stance on Israeli Government Actions

14:01 to 14:41

Discussion on the UK's actions regarding Israeli government sanctions and the rationale behind them.

“There is a problem across the world of hatred and attacks against Jewish people, and the UK will always fight against that and always stand up for them both in the UK and globally.”

Upcoming Segments on NewsHour

14:42 to 15:24

Preview of segments including views from Israeli officials and a science fiction celebration.

“We'll be hearing the views from a senior member of the Israeli Prime Minister's office.”

Language Politics in Odessa

15:26 to 20:20

Report on the proposed ban of Russian language content in Odessa and the implications for local culture.

“And Iran has reported a series of explosions at its oil facilities after warning the US against targeting its ships.”

US Open Tennis Championship Highlights

20:21 to 24:22

Analysis of a remarkable tennis match where Zhang Qinwen came back from a 5-0 deficit.

“Now, sports reporting does sometimes lend itself to overheated language, but something really quite remarkable did happen at the US Open Tennis Championships.”
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US Open Tennis Championship Highlights

24:53 to 25:40

Analysis of a remarkable tennis match where Zhang Qinwen came back from a 5-0 deficit.

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US Open Tennis Championship Highlights

25:44 to 25:54

Analysis of a remarkable tennis match where Zhang Qinwen came back from a 5-0 deficit.

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Innovative Brain Tumor Detection

26:54 to 28:00

Discussion on a new screening test developed at the University of Manchester for detecting brain tumors.

“Before that, scientists at the University of Manchester in northern England are developing a screening test which they say can show if a patient has a brain tumour by analysing their tears.”

Innovative Eye Test for Brain Tumors

28:00 to 30:09

Learn about a non-invasive eye test being developed to detect brain tumors with high accuracy.

“So is this something that could be done by you know regular physicians close to people in their hometown doesn't have to be a specialist doing it?”

Israeli Government's Response to UK Sanctions

30:37 to 36:25

Discussion with David Mensah about Israel's stance on UK sanctions and historical claims to land.

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Haiti's Struggle with Gang Violence

36:55 to 39:42

An overview of the challenges faced by the gang suppression force in Haiti amidst ongoing violence.

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Assessing the Gang Suppression Force's Effectiveness

39:50 to 42:00

Discussion on the effectiveness and challenges of the gang suppression force in Haiti.

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Haiti's Ongoing Crisis

42:00 to 43:16

Explore the current challenges facing Haiti amid violence and displacement.

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Introduction to Star Trek Segment

43:16 to 43:31

Transitioning from Haiti's situation to a cultural reflection on Star Trek.

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Celebrating Star Trek's Legacy

43:31 to 44:27

Reflecting on the 60th anniversary of Star Trek and its impact on pop culture.

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The Appeal of Star Trek

44:27 to 45:22

Discussing what makes Star Trek resonate with diverse audiences.

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Character Depth and Representation in Star Trek

45:22 to 46:45

Exploring how characters in Star Trek serve as mentors and reflect humanity.

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Gene Roddenberry's Vision

46:45 to 48:31

Delving into Gene Roddenberry's background and motivations for creating Star Trek.

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The Diversity of Star Trek Fans

48:31 to 51:05

Insights into the wide-ranging demographics of Star Trek fans and their stories.

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0:00This BBC podcast is supported by ads outside the UK. This message is for all of you who take your barbecuing seriously. Yes, I'm talking to 99.9 % of all Aussies. Apologies to the 0.1 % of you who might find this a bit boring. But if you want to take your barbecuing to the next level, you need to know about outdoor grilling equipment from Made In, the company that supplies many of the world's most famous chefs. Their carbon steel griddle, for example, is a professional-grade griddle that turns an ordinary barbecue into a large restaurant-style flat top. It's perfect for snags, steaks, veggies, fish, and breakfast foods like pancakes and eggs and bacon.

0:41Pair it with the Made In grill press and it can even make mouth-watering smash burgers just like you'll find in your favourite restaurants. So if you want to up your barbecuing game, and who doesn't, do what the pros do, barbecue with Made In. Go to madeincookware.com.au for 10 % off your first order of$149 or more. That's M-A-D-E-I-N cookware.com.au. This is Matt Rogers from Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang. This is Bowen Yang from Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang. You know when people try a new food and suddenly it's like, okay, hold on, I got a new favorite food.

1:18That's the reaction a lot of people are having when they first try Kewpie mayo. Yeah, it's the one with the red cap and the little baby on the bottle. You've probably seen it at the grocery store. And this mayo is different. Most mayonnaise uses whole eggs. Kewpie only uses egg yolks, which gives it this rich umami flavor. It's smoother, deeper, almost buttery. Once people try it, they start putting it on everything. Egg sandwiches, fries, burgers. Chefs use it. Restaurants use it. People who really care about flavor use it. Put it on just about anything. Then you'll understand. Kewpie, the original Japanese mayonnaise.

1:55Hello and welcome to NewsHour. It's coming to you live from the BBC World Service studios in central London. I'm Tim Franks. And we're beginning with a story where a physically changing landscape has led today to a markedly different diplomatic landscape. The physical changes have been taking place ever since Israel, in the wake of the war of 1967 with its Arab neighbours, captured swathes of territory beyond what had been the existing armistice line. That included land which some religious Jews see as part of their biblical patrimony, the area most of the world refers to as the West Bank. And what's been happening since 1967, but hugely accelerating over the last few years, has been the presence of Israelis, many of them hardline nationalists in settlements.

2:41It's thought there are about half a million in the West Bank, a further quarter of a million in East Jerusalem. And under this increase in the number of settlements and settlers, the most right-wing Israeli government in the country's history, there's been a huge upsurge in settler violence against Palestinians in the West Bank, which is why the British government, followed by 11 other countries today, announced that there had to be a change in language and approach to this settlement enterprise. The British Foreign Secretary, Ed Miliband, used some strong language in Parliament. Ethnic cleansing is defined by the UN as a purposeful policy designed by one ethnic or religious group to remove by violent and terror-inspiring means the civilian population of another ethnic or religious group from certain geographic areas.

3:29The British government agrees that there is ethnic cleansing of Palestinians in areas of the West Bank, perpetrated by settler terrorists. And all too often, the Israeli government has turned a blind eye to this, and worse, members of it have made statements and taken actions to support the forced displacement of Palestinians. Now, Madam Deputy Speaker, I recognise the gravity of saying this, but the truth is, it is the least the people who face such suffering deserve, and it should be the prelude to justice. Mr Miliband also said that the UK government was today willing to follow the ruling in 2024 from the UN's top court, the International Court of Justice, that the entire occupation by Israel was unlawful.

4:16lawful. Our position is not just an overdue statement of reality. The government believes the unlawfulness of the occupation should be reflected in the economic relationships we choose to have with the occupied territories. I do not believe the British people want us supporting the occupation by accepting products from settlements in our shops and supermarkets. So I can announce today that we will introduce an import ban on goods from illegal settlements in the occupied territories. To do so, we will introduce a new comprehensive sanctions regime, working with my right honourable friend, the Business Secretary, with appropriate religious exemptions.

4:53And as part of this regime, we will go further. We will take action against specific companies and individuals who provide services, such as construction, infrastructure, financing or real estate, for settlement expansion. So to those who finance or facilitate illegal settlements, let me say this. you will face the full force of UK sanctions. Ed Miliband was still speaking to members of Parliament in the House of Commons when his counterpart, the Israeli Foreign Minister Gideon Saar, appeared before elected in Jerusalem and hit back. Describing the British government's move to sanction settlements as a blatant interference in Israel's forthcoming general election, he said it was all based on outrageous lies.

5:36And so Mr Saar announced a series of retaliatory measures. the closure of the British consulate in Jerusalem. United Jerusalem is the capital of Israel, will always remain the capital of Israel, and is under its full sovereignty. Any activity by a foreign state within it must be carried out with the consent of the state of Israel. Second, the removal of British representatives from the International Gaza Support Center in Kiryat Ghat. Third, the termination of British activities to train Palestinian authority forces in Judea and Samaria under the British support team in Ramallah. Fourth, the denial of entry to Israel to 12 British elected officials, elected representatives, and other British nationals involved in anti-Semitic and anti-Israel activity, as well as those who deny the very existence of the state of Israel.

6:43Gideon Saar speaking in Jerusalem. Just be clear about that first measure, the closure of the British consulate in East Jerusalem. That acts as an embassy for British nationals in Gaza, the West Bank and Jerusalem. As far as we know, no Israeli government has ever tried to close a consulate. So it is a pretty dramatic move. Let's go back to the sanctions, though. How are they likely to work? Tom Keating is the director of the Centre for Finance and Security at the London-based Royal United Services Institute think tank. When it comes to British trade with Israeli settlements in particular, how big a deal is that?

7:19Well, to be honest, I don't think it's a particularly big deal in terms of numbers. I mean, UK trade with Israel, of course, is important in certain areas like medicines. but it's I think less than half of a percent of UK trade overall. I think to be honest the bigger issue is the messaging. I mean you look at the way the Israelis have reacted, you look at the way the UK seems to have got a pretty large consortium of other countries alongside it to announce these decisions. This is a kind of a demonstration of the Burnham government's resolve on this issue. And in terms of, I mean, I guess a ban with physical goods is one thing.

8:02As you say, it's relatively small beer. There was also the promise of a ban on services, on those who were involved in any way in financing or supporting the settlement enterprise. That is going to be more difficult to police, isn't it? Well, it is. And I noticed, actually, something which people have overlooked is that the Foreign Office also announced under its global human rights sanctions regime today the sanctioning of five Israeli individuals, including a gentleman who I think is the director of a construction company working in the settlement. So that kind of already that is biting. And so, yes, I mean, this is the big challenge.

8:45And those who have tried to enforce sanctions against Russia will be familiar with this because sanctions on goods and services coming into and out of Crimea was a big headache for the private sector for a good many years after 2014. And so I think at the end of the day, this is a demonstration of UK resolve. Now, of course, the private sector have to figure out how on earth to implement these sanctions once the details are made clear. And very briefly, Tom, there was also a warning from the US ambassador to Israel that there could be blowback for British companies who want to trade with some US states.

9:26How likely do you think that is? Well, I mean, never say never with the United States in this day and age. Obviously, President Trump has used trade in general as the big stick to beat people around the world with whom he doesn't agree. So I think that is a concern. And again, the private sector will be parsing the statements of people like Ambassador Huckabee to figure out where the mallet might fall. So there are challenges ahead for the private sector. And we'll need to see more details as the Foreign Office actually reveals what's behind Ed Miliband's statements to the House today. Tom Keating from the RUCI think tank in London.

10:04Alex Ballinger is an MP with the governing Labour Party and sits on the Foreign Affairs Select Committee. What's his assessment? I think it's a really important move by the government. The actions of Israel in the West Bank, in Gaza, in Lebanon, they're clear breaches of international law. War crimes are happening. I agree with the Foreign Secretary that what we're seeing in parts of the West Bank does amount to ethnic cleansing. And I'm glad the government is using the language that's appropriate. I'm disappointed and sad that Israel has responded in the way they have responded, particularly having visited the consulate in Jerusalem only last year.

10:41I know the good work they were doing to promote peace between Israelis and Palestinians. But I think even with that response, it's the right thing to do. It's the moral thing to do. And it's something that I think the public in the UK have been asking for for a long time. The Foreign Secretary was very clear to say our argument is with the settlement enterprises, not with Israeli people as a whole, with whom, as he said, we have unshakable bonds. Israel has a single banking system. I mean, are you going to be expecting British banks to do due diligence on every single banking transaction that goes to an Israeli bank in order to determine where it might possibly end up?

11:22because that is going to either be a vast amount of work for those British banks or it's basically going to mean that actually British banks are going to avoid doing any business with Israel. Those details weren't in the statement today. What was there was a six to nine month transition period while these sanctions will be thought through and the regime set up. Everyone appreciates it's complicated. But it's very difficult to see how that is going to work in a way that doesn't mean that it is going to bleed into essentially, effectively, sanctions much more broadly on Israel. The alternative is to allow British companies and others to facilitate, finance, construct illegal settlements in the West Bank, things that the UK recognises now as illegal, the international community, the UN has for a long time.

12:12And I think even though it's complicated, these things will have to be worked through. I'm sure there will be exemptions for good reasons, different things. we are going to take all the steps necessary to support the two-state solution. There's an open question on feasibility. There is also a question on unintended consequences. And, you know, lots of people are making the argument today that this announcement coming just weeks before a very tightly fought general election in Israel could well mean a boost for Bini Minnet Nyahob. It could have those unintended consequences, couldn't it? I think the urgency of the situation merits action right now.

12:52I mean, there are settlers in the West Bank just last month that have organised attacks on settlements. Two Palestinians killed only a few days ago. There would always be an argument to wait, no matter what it is. There's elections coming. There's been elections in Israel coming for the past two years, I can remember. Well, yeah, I know, but we really do know that they're going to be held before the end of the next month. I mean, it's up to the Israeli people to decide who they vote for. This is in no way intended to influence that. There are those who say, though, that there is a special motive at play here, and it would be naive to discount, in a sense, the local politics, the national politics, that there is a reading whereby the Labour government is concerned about being outflanked from the left by the Green Party, and that this is, to an extent, gesture politics.

13:39The downside of that, and it's an argument made by the chief rabbi, who speaks for quite a number of British Jews, that gesture politics of this kind feeds into an increasingly hostile discourse about Israel, the cumulative effect of which is to further embolden those at home and abroad who use hatred as a weapon against Jews. What do you say to that? I reject the link there. There is a problem across the world of hatred and attacks against Jewish people, and the UK will always fight against that and always stand up for them both in the UK and globally. That is a separate issue to the action we're taking today which is targeted at the Israeli government.

14:21There are many people in the UK across the political spectrum, it doesn't matter whether you're left or right, that have been watching this over the last few years, have seen the deterioration and they are calling for the government to take action and I think it is reasonable, appropriate and morally right for us to take action based on those circumstances. And that was the Labour MP Alex Ballinger in about 15 minutes. We'll be hearing the views from a senior member of the Israeli Prime Minister's office. Also coming up on News Out, we'll be hearing about a science fiction titan celebrating its 60th birthday.

15:00People use our characters and use the ideas of Star Trek is virtual mentors. They chose characters. And if they felt like an outsider, if they felt like an alien in their life, they could understand that there was validity to what they were feeling by looking at my character. The enduring appeal of Star Trek. That's coming up in 30 minutes. Our headlines this hour, as we've been hearing, the leaders of Britain, France and Canada say sanctions against Israeli settlers announced in concert with nine other states are a turning point In the protection of a two-state solution in the Israeli-Palestinian conflict, Israel has closed a British consulate in response.

15:39And Iran has reported a series of explosions at its oil facilities after warning the US against targeting its ships.

15:52You're with NewsHour, live from the BBC. Councillors in Odessa, Ukraine's third-largest city, are due to vote tomorrow, Wednesday, on a proposal to ban all Russian language content from the public sphere. Russian is the first language of the overwhelming majority of people in the city and of millions throughout Ukraine, including many of the troops defending the country in its war with Russia. But it's viewed by some Ukrainian speakers as the language of the enemy and its use has been increasingly restricted by law. How do Odessans feel about that? Tim Hewell has this report.

16:31It's a muggy summer night in Odessa. Russia is launching missiles at the city every few hours, but the mask theatre is packed. Veteran comic actor Boris Barsky, with his trademark wax moustache, keeps the audience rolling in the aisles with classic Odessa humour in the main language of its streets, Russian. He's allowed to use it on stage because this is a private theatre, but he's been fined for writing coffee in Russian on the cafe menu. Signs in the language are banned, part of a complex web of restrictions he thinks are absurd.

17:09This isn't even like Orwell or Kafka. It's just total madness. Now he's worried that a proposed moratorium on Russian language content in the public sphere may even extend to songs.

17:30More songs have been written about Odessa than any other city. How can you cut them out of our lives? But lawyer Artem Kartashov, who's helped the council to decolonise Odessa, changing Soviet and Tsarist-era memorials and street names, says there's a problem with Russian songs in wartime. By the Russian-speaking music or something else, Russians tried to deconstruct Ukrainian identity or tried to influence especially on the young people. Language was instrumentalised by the Russian Federation as a weapon. Photographer Natalia Mikhalenko agrees. She grew up speaking Russian, but switched to Ukrainian when she learnt about Russia's centuries-long repression of Ukrainian culture.

18:17Now, when everyday people are killed, it's very hard to hear Russian language. I think it's because of trauma. The most radical people are the people who are lost relatives.

18:39Ukrainians already used for most purposes, except private conversation in Odessa. Guides, advertising excursions have switched to it, for example, as the law says everyone must use it at work. Ukrainian and Russian are closely related, and most Odessans understand both. But Anastasia Pilyavsky, an anthropologist who's founded a group campaigning for more open discussion of language issues, says that's not the point. The question is not really one of language, but it's one of liberty, right? Because Ukraine has been fighting for freedom. For most Ukrainians, diversity is not a frill. This is what they're fighting for.

19:17This is the reason for this war, right? If you put it on hold, there's nothing to fight for. It's not clear yet whether the council will approve a moratorium on Russian in the public sphere, or what exactly that would mean in practice for Boris Barsky's theatre. At the end of his performances, he salutes jesters, his fellow actors, who defend the country by keeping it laughing. and then its ultimate defenders, its armed forces. He wants Ukraine to win, but he thinks his country can fight Russia without needing to fight Russian too. I don't understand what they're fighting against. Russian isn't the language of Putin, it's the language of writers like Dostoevsky and Bulgakov.

20:04Who gains from this? from setting people against other people who love Ukraine just as deeply, only love it in a different language. Only Putin gains from this.

20:20And that report from Odessa by Tim Huell.

20:27Now, sports reporting does sometimes lend itself to overheated language, but something really quite remarkable did happen at the US Open Tennis Championships. An unfancied player, in this case Zhang Qinwen from China, won a set from 5-0 down in her latest victory, which takes her to the quarterfinals. And not only that, she had done this for the second match in succession. She'd been 5-0 down in the deciding set against her previous opponent before winning seven successive games. Ava Wallace is senior tennis writer with the Athletic Sports News website. What does she make of it all? This is something you do not see every day, every week, even every year in tennis.

21:10I mean, first of all, it takes kind of two parties to make this happen. Usually when someone's up 5-0, they're playing well enough. They can kind of just get one more game to close things out. So it was really on both sides. It's remarkable from Jane's perspective. And it's also remarkable to lose twice in a row two different players, of course, for different reasons. but kind of letting go a 5-0 lead. But absolutely, it's James. It's incredible. Yeah, well, it must have been a nightmare for those opponents of hers who felt it slipping away. But also, am I right in saying that she's been a bit out of form?

21:48Yes, so she's been managing a chronic elbow injury since July of 2025. That's when she had surgery. And it's been really tough for her to get back. Obviously, you can imagine how important something like elbow health is to tennis. But she's had lots and lots of setbacks, has come back multiple different times and try to rebuild her ranking. And she actually had to come through the qualifying tournament just to get to this stage at the U.S. Open. So she's also played three extra matches than everybody else here. Oh, my goodness. How, I mean, you know, tennis crowds, they love an underdog. So I just wonder how they responded to what they were witnessing.

22:27I mean, was there a sense of the crowd really getting behind her? Absolutely. Tennis crowds definitely love an underdog, especially when you've paid a lot of money for a ticket like everybody has at the U.S. Open. You want to see more tennis. But also Zhang comes in with one of probably the biggest followings on the tennis tour. She's a Chinese star, which always kind of gives players an extra boost when they're representing part of the Asian diaspora and the Asian market. So she has a lot of fans, a lot of fans here in New York. And she has this big personality. You might not see it when she's making these comebacks.

23:01She's actually pretty low key on court. But as soon as you put a microphone in front of her face, she just comes alive. And people really love her for it. It's really interesting what you were saying, because I was just wondering and I confess I haven't been following it. But I was just wondering whether actually that, you know, that entirely unjustified, I'm sure. But there may have been a bit of antipathy on the grounds that, you know, the U.S. at a geopolitical level, it has has tensions. with China. So I didn't know whether that might play at all in terms of the fans' response in New York, but you're saying not at all?

23:35No, in fact, there's a huge population and members of Asian Americans or Asian tennis diaspora. That's kind of the really cool thing about the US Open is you're in New York City, you have a lot of people who do live here, who maybe are children of immigrants or have family ties elsewhere outside of the US. It's actually quite common And you see players representing populations who don't have a huge history in tennis, who find a ton of support here in New York. And just very briefly, Ava, she's now in the quarterfinals. I mean, people started to take her seriously. Yes, it's been a while, but she she was a top five player just last year.

24:13And so I don't know if people have been underestimating her or if it's just the end of the year and everyone's tired. But nobody wants to play Zhang Kinwen right now. over wallace uh senior tennis writer with the athletic on uh the person who really no one wants to play or frankly go five nil up against um jung chin one from china she's done it twice in a row who to say she won't do it again you're listening to news hour

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25:28Pair it with the Made In grill press and it can even make mouth-watering smash burgers just like you'll find in your favourite restaurants. So if you want to up your barbecuing game, and who doesn't, do what the pros do, barbecue with Made In. Go to madeincookware.com.au for 10 % off your first order of$149 or more. That's M-A-D-E-I-N cookware.com.au. This is Matt Rogers from Las Culture East. That's with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang. This is Bowen Yang from Las Culture East. That's with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang. You know when people try a new food and suddenly it's like, wait. That's the reaction a lot of people are having when they first try Kewpie Mayo.

26:08It's the one with the red cap and the little baby on the bottle. You've probably seen it in the grocery store before. And if you've ever just walked past it, some people would say that's a huge mistake. Because this mayo is different. Most mayonnaise uses whole eggs. Kewpie only uses egg yolks, which gives it this rich umami flavor. It's smoother, deeper, and almost buttery. Once people try it, they start putting it on everything. Egg sandwiches, fries, burgers. Some fans even swear by dipping pizza crust in it. And once you notice it, you start seeing it everywhere. Chefs use it. Restaurants use it.

26:40People who really care about flavor use it. Never tried it? Grab the bottle with the red cap next time you're at the store. Put it on just about anything. Then you'll understand. QP, the original Japanese mayonnaise.

26:54Welcome back to News Hour. Coming up in a few minutes, we'll be hearing from a close aide of the Israeli Prime Minister about those measures announced by 12 countries to ban the import of goods produced in Israeli settlements in the occupied West Bank. Before that, scientists at the University of Manchester in northern England are developing a screening test which they say can show if a patient has a brain tumour by analysing their tears. This test, or a study of this test, is about to be published worldwide, having proved successful in initial trials. A little earlier, my colleague Gary O'Donoghue spoke to Petra Hamelik.

27:33She's Professor of Neuro-Oncology at the University of Manchester and she's the lead researcher. She told Gary how she'd come up with the idea. It was a scientific discussion with colleagues where we were speculating what is the best way to detect something which is hidden inside of our skull behind so-called blood-brain barrier. We had a colleague who was looking into ocular diseases and then we speculated that maybe there is a connection between our eye and brain and therefore we could see the brain tumours as some kind of image in a mirror in the tear fluid. i read that you just had this uh sort of discovery whilst chatting in a bar which i suppose is a good place as any but those were early early years well good ideas come in all sorts of places and yes how how reliable is the test so the test is still in development we we haven't uh published it and we are finalizing the data that we have received from about 500 participants across different sites so i think maybe by the end of this year we will know how well it works but the preliminary data indicates that we are reaching near 90 accuracy being able to tell whether you do or don't have a brain tumor but this is yet to be validated okay still pretty impressive i mean i was also reading that um i mean you obviously don't try and make people cry in order to harvest their tears but you do stick something in their eye don't you yes so we collect something that is called like the baseline so it's like the normal fluid that is making sure your eye is moist and it doesn't dry up so you can see properly so what we do is we take a small piece of paper it's a paper strip which is inserted in the lower eyelet for five minutes you gently close your eyes it's a little bit itchy for some people but it's very non-invasive and then after those five minutes we can process this trip and get the answer.

29:28So is this something that could be done by you know regular physicians close to people in their hometown doesn't have to be a specialist doing it? So this is the vision that we are working towards as you can imagine this type of research and especially if you want to build something that is translationally viable in the clinic will take years but yes ultimately what we would like to make sure is basically point of care clinicians or emergency department which see patients with all kinds of symptoms which could be a brain tumour but are more likely not so it's some kind of a triage test that will accelerate access to scans and that was professor petra hamelik from manchester university speaking to gary o'donoghue

30:24This is NewsHour, live from the BBC with me, Tim Franks, and let's head back to our top story, Britain, France and 10 other countries banning goods produced in Israeli settlements in the occupied West Bank. I've been speaking to David Mensah. He's a government spokesman in the Israeli Prime Minister's office. I asked him first about the language used by Israel's Foreign Minister, Gideon Saar, today. If the British government objects to West Bank settlements, Why should that, as Gideon Sarr claims, be tantamount to interference in a sovereign state? Because the British government doesn't get to tell Jews where they can live anymore.

31:01Those days are gone. And I think that's quite difficult for the British Foreign Secretary, this Labour British Foreign Secretary, to come to terms with. It seems that old habits die hard. We're talking about Judea and Samaria. These are very much the heartlands of the Jewish people. We feel they are disputed territories. countries, but the idea that we have no link to this land, we have an absolutely umbilical link to Judea and Samaria. It also includes the old city of Jerusalem. I mean, you know, Jerusalem was the capital of the Jewish people when London was still a bend in the River Thames. Jerusalem had a system of weights and measures and air purity regulations thousands of years ago.

31:41So we are absolutely linked to this land. And any idea that this is, we are somehow illegal in this and is absolutely offensive to, I think, most Jewish people in Israel and certainly around the world. You're saying that the British government doesn't get to tell Jews where they can live. But he is pointing out, Ed Miliband, the British Foreign Secretary, that he is following two years on from a very clear ruling from the International Court of Justice, the UN's top court, which said that the Israeli occupation of the West Bank and other occupied areas was unlawful. And therefore, it's not just about a sort of something that this British government has decided.

32:17You're saying that you're not particularly interested in the adjudication of the UN's top court. Look, the UN's top court is unfortunately thoroughly disgraced. Its chief prosecutor, Kareem Khan, has been accused. I'm not talking about the International Criminal Court. I'm talking about the International Court of Justice, which is the UN's top body. Any international body that seeks to separate the Jewish people from Judea and Samaria is thoroughly wrong. I think we should look at facts and truth rather than some of these blatantly anti-Israel. You can acknowledge some Jewish people's attachment to that bit of historical and biblical and religiously important land.

32:58And indeed, there is some Jews who do see it as important, but nonetheless still regarded as occupied territory. But I'm just talking about Israel's place in the concert of nations. Israel prides itself that it's a law-abiding democracy. This is the UN's top court that has ruled that it's illegal, the settlement enterprise and indeed the whole occupation. So the British government is the one that is acting in accordance with that. The Israeli government is the one that's acting out of that. Well, we believe that court is irrelevant. We don't think that their judgments are applicable to us. We think that the UN Secretary General just made this point.

33:38The UN is obsessed with Israel. The overwhelming majority of resolutions which come out of the UN affect Israel more than China, more than against Russia, more than against Sudan, and more than against anyone else. There is an obsession with this tiny, sole Jewish state in the entire world. And we know when there's obsession with Jews, we know precisely what it means. Now, before there was Israel, Jewish people put their faith in international institutions, and we saw precisely what happened when there wasn't an Israel. Ed Miliband also used very strong language about the violence that has been seen in recent times in the West Bank.

34:21He said that it amounted to ethnic cleansing. Some of the violence in some of the areas that settlers have been operating in, their attempts to push violently Palestinians off the land. I mean, there has been, and I assume you won't deny this fact, there has been a huge upsurge in settler attacks as more and more settlements have been approved and this government has emboldened some of the hardest, most violent settlers to try and extend their grip on parts of the West Bank. What do you make of that language, ethnic cleansing? I mean, it is extremely strong language. Well, the Prime Minister has been extremely clear in his condemnation of what we feel are about 150 disaffected youth who you call violent settlers.

35:16He's instructed the army to really... The US ambassador has called Jewish terrorists. Yeah. Carry on. That's not language which I'd use, but the Prime Minister has sent the army in to get a grips with this problem. It's 150 kids. So why haven't they got a grips with the problems? And they have. And it is very much a, listen to me, Tim, they have got to grips with it. And it is very much a declining phenomenon. Now, I hope you conclude this in the interview. The BBC simply does not report the overwhelming majority of violence and terrorism in the West Bank and Judea and Samaria, which is Palestinian authority endorsed violence against Jews.

35:55That is what you guys never report. There are daily stabbings, there are car ramings, there are pipe bombs, there are rocks thrown at cars driving by. 750 ,000 of the most peaceful Israelis live in those Jewish heartlands. Unfortunately, the BBC simply does not report the violence which is carried out against those people and simply chooses to focus on what I've already condemned, what you call settler violence. And that was the Israeli government spokesman David Mensah.

36:55to help the Haitian police beat back these ultra-violent, hugely powerful criminals who control so much of the country and have killed, abused and ruined so many lives. The mandate for that gang suppression force is due to run out at the end of this month. The question is, has it done enough to warrant continued backing? Igor Ruguisa is the spokesman, based in the Haitian capital Port-au-Prince, for the gang suppression force. We can only hope, but the decision to extend the mandate of the gang suppression force solely lies with the UN Security Council. And we cannot guess what's going to be the decision.

37:33We can only hope that the mandate is renewed. So far, we were still in a fourth generation building up the force. OK, so you say that you're still in the position of trying to build the force up. The mandate has the expectation that the force will be 5 ,500 strong. Can you tell me what it numbers right now? Currently, we have over 1 ,000 troops already deployed on the ground, but we cannot give proper or correct figures. Yes, it's 5 ,500 that are authorized. And are you able to point to anything in particular? So you can say, we carried out this particular operation and we can say that X number of gang members were captured or neutralized, but we managed to break up this, we've managed to wrest this neighborhood from the control of gangs in Port -au-Prince.

38:29Is there anything in particular that you can say has been achieved? At the very beginning of our operations in June, we carried out one of our first main targeted operations where we seized one gang point where we destroyed a couple of hundreds of cocktail molotovs they were using to prevent national police and armed forces. We destroyed them. We arrested a dozen suspected gang members that were later on handed over to the national authorities. We also, during one of our patrols, we encountered a checkpoint run by gang members that engaged our forces. And following our rules of engagement, we retaliated and three of the gang members were neutralized.

39:13We have deployed again in downtown Port-au-Prince in support to the national police to free resources so they can increase their numbers in the operation regarding the Kenskopf events. We do conduct regular patrols and we do also conduct arrests, but it also secure the population. And we can see slowly in some of the areas where we are already deployed, we see life coming back slowly but surely. That was Igor Rugewiza, the spokesman in Port-au-Prince for the gang suppression force. Well, listening to that was Jacqueline Charles. She's Haiti correspondent for the Miami Herald, one of the most astute observers of what's going on in the country.

39:58What's her assessment of how successful the gang suppression force have been? Well, the biggest challenge with them is getting their troops on the ground. As you heard, what he said was just barely a thousand. And that truly has not been enough in order to wrestle this problem or to even try to control it. I mean, we've seen this massacre in Kinscloth. And just yesterday, there was another massacre in the lower Artibonite. So they really need to be able to get those troops there in Haiti. And that is moving very slowly. Do you think in that case that they will be given more time to try and get up to speed?

40:35I mean, are there any other ideas out there for, you know, how the gangs can be beaten up, beaten back? There really aren't any other ideas. And the U.S. late Friday started to circulate a resolution which is asking for a six-month technical rollover of the GSF with an evaluation after six months. The GSF and Haiti wanted two years. And so we have to see whether or not you're going to get support on a Security Council. But it's really right now very difficult to say or even impossible to say whether or not this force has been effective when really it hasn't been able to show what it can do. Yeah.

41:12I mean, there is a pretty tight timeframe in this. I mean, apart from the fact that Haiti's so long been in an appalling mess. But we've got these elections that are scheduled for December. I mean, presumably, at the moment, the security environment is going to make holding of those elections extremely difficult, isn't it? Exactly. I mean, we're not seeing people register. They want people to register to vote beforehand. So in order for you to vote, you will have had to register. That process itself is going very slowly while we're seeing continuing attacks by armed gangs. I mean, what we've heard from the GSF is that they expect to have everyone on the ground by October.

41:52But with this war that's going on, that's also having an impact in terms of the ability for those troops to arrive with their equipment. unlike the Kenyan-led force. All of these forces, they have to come with their equipment. That means the vehicles that they're going to be driving, the guns that they're going to be using. And so while that has been great in terms of the cost analysis, it poses a challenge in terms of being able to put them on boats and get them to Haiti. Jacqueline, you've been watching and following Haiti for a very long time. I mean, can you see any glimmers there for the country?

42:29I mean, is it really still mired in the most appalling violence and dysfunction and deprivation, really, for so many people? I mean, things are very difficult because on top of this violence that between what June and today has already displaced over 10 ,000 people, we're at almost 1.5 million, which is the same amount of people who were displaced by the 2010 earthquake. And now you have deportations, as you mentioned. I mean, as I'm speaking to you right now, we've seen an increase in boats that are trying to get into the Turks and Caicos, which is a British overseas territory less than 100 miles from Haiti.

43:05At the same time, the U.S. is sending weekly deportation flights after cancelling this humanitarian programme for over 300 ,000 Haitians. So it's very difficult to see glimmers of hope. And that was Jacqueline Charles, Haiti correspondent for the Miami Herald. You're listening to News App and the BBC. This is NewsHour live from the BBC with me, Tim Franks and we're going to end this edition of the programme with a birthday salute It was 60 years ago today, so September 8th 1966 that the first episode of Star Trek aired on US television It became a science fiction reference point and nothing short of an international pop culture phenomenon as viewers followed the crew of the USS Enterprise as it boldly went journeying through the universe under the guidance of Captain Kirk and his mixed-gender, multi-racial, even multi-species crew.

43:57Success was not always guaranteed. The show was cancelled for a while. But when it was recommissioned, ratings went, well, stratospheric. And then there were movie spin-offs, franchise spin-offs, and it still inspires a huge following. We brought together two very well-qualified Trekkies. Nana Visitor, an actor on Star Trek's spin-off show, Deuce Face 9, where for seven years she played Major Kira Nerys. And first, Larry Nemechek, a writer, broadcaster and host of the Trek Files podcast. What is the enduring appeal of Star Trek? That's the million-dollar question. I think it's a combination of just how it's the respect for rationality, as well as social justice, as well as inclusion.

44:43It was just an explosion at the time it hit. young people, but also older people, all ages, no stereotypes here, but a combination of curiosity and excitement to embrace the future, but also to realize that we cannot get to a future in which we are all still divided among ourselves. And why do we even have these divisions? That makes sense. And then along the way, a lot of geeky fun, a lot of plaudits for just rationality and science and what would science look like in the future, our technologies, and then how do we relate to that as humans? Yeah, so it was a potent combination. I mean, is that how you've seen it?

45:28Do you recognise elements of that in the character that you played for all those years on Deep Space Nine? I absolutely do. And I also see it as the weaving together and the understanding how there's a balance between creativity and storytelling and science. Each needs the other. And they really do go more hand in hand than sometimes they're given credit for. And my character being, you know, she was an alien, but it was the most human character I have ever played. I was allowed the full spectrum of human emotions. I was allowed to make mistakes and learn from them. What I found when I did a massive number of interviews for the book that I wrote, Open a Channel, about the Star Trek experience, particularly the women's, I found that people use our characters and use the ideas of Star Trek as virtual mentors.

46:34They chose characters. And if they felt like an outsider, if they felt like an alien in their life, they could understand that there was validity to what they were feeling by looking at my character. And Larry, I guess that will go in part to explain why it had such wide appeal and such long lasting appeal as well. I mean, when I say wide appeal, or wide beyond the United States. But tell me a bit more about the sort of the techie side of things as well, because, you know, looking back on those early shows, I mean, there were some sort of slightly unconvincing cardboard sets, but they actually took the technological side of things really seriously, didn't they?

47:17They did. Well, here's the thing. Gene Roddenberry, we should mention Gene here, the creator of Star Trek, was an up-and-coming writer. He was a bomber pilot, a civilian pilot. He was a policeman in L.A. after his father became a speechwriter, became a police consultant for early pioneering TV. That's his biography. He wanted to be he wanted to support his family and be a showrunner, not just a journeyman writer. And his first series was a Marine Corps series. And one of the inciting incidents behind Star Trek is that he did a show about he wanted to do adult themes. And he had the cooperation of the government filming.

47:54But he did a show about racism. There was an issue about race and a black Marine and a white Marine get into the scrap and it's attention all the way. And it was censored. And he was so incensed about that. He wanted to tell those stories. He'd been a childhood fan of H.G. Wells, the Pulps. And he said, OK, by God, if you won't let me put on a straight through adult situation here in the world of 60s TV, then I'll dress it up with purple and green aliens and spaceships and ray guns and we'll sneak it through. and the audience is so smart. You don't think the audience is intelligent, but I know they are.

48:30I met an old friend at one of these functions that we do, an old friend of Gene's who said, actually, he was on a bombing mission over Japan when it suddenly hit him. What are we doing? And that a lot of it came from that. Is that a true story? Yes, yes. And then as a civilian, he survived a crash in the military. He also survived a crash as an airline you know the old the prop planes he had a long distance and they had a crash in the syrian desert and he got people out and yeah that mortality that he kept facing over and over again is why are we doing this it's because he had he came from a policeman's family was born in el passo texas came to la it's like what is the mix of this life story that led us to the man that created Star Trek.

49:18Nana, in your long experience of playing a character, a Star Trek character, and as you say, writing about the Star Trek experience as well, can you give me a sense, is it unfair to ask you sort of what your feeling of the sort of the average Trekkie is? What sort Oh, my God. Is it too wide a range? What is the average? Oh, my God. It is. It's the range is huge. But I think what a lot of people miss is how extraordinary. I'll tell you a quick story. I was signing autographs somewhere near Washington, D.C. I don't remember where exactly. And there was a young man holding his computer coming up to me.

50:07And I immediately twigged to, he wants to show me something. He's done a little video or something. And in fact, when he got up to me, he opened his computer and showed me this little thing landing on a planet. And he goes, that's Mars. I did that. And I was like, that is amazing. That looks so. And he said, no, no, I'm with NASA. I did that. So and then proceeded to get my autograph, which felt very backwards. The people, astronauts, politicians, colonels, retired colonel, I just met her a couple of weeks ago. They are extraordinary people and a whole spectrum all the way through society of people who got Gene Roddenberry's message of humanism.

51:02And it's given them hope. You heard from Nana, visitor there, actor on Deep Space Nine and also the podcast host, Larry Nemechek, as Star Trek turns 60. From all of us on NewsHour, thank you very much for your company.

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From the publisher

Britain is leading a group of twelve countries in banning trade with Israeli settlements in the occupied West Bank.

The Israeli foreign minister swiftly hits back - with a series of measures including the closure of the British consulate in Jerusalem

We'll hear the arguments and ask what effect the new sanctions may have.

Also - has Haiti's international gang suppression force actually suppressed any gangs?

And we meet the Ukrainian actor, campaigning against the proposed ban of the Russian language in Ukraine's third largest city.

And it's Star Trek's 60th birthday - Newshour speaks to Nana Visitor, actor on Deep Space Nine, and podcast host Larry Nemecek.

IMAGE: Israeli minister of foreign affairs Gideon Saar speaks during a press statement at the Ministry of Foreign Affairs in Jerusalem, Israel. CREDIT: Abir Sultan

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