Khamenei’s six-day funeral expected to draw millions

3 Jul 2026 · 48 min · 14 chapters

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In short

The episode covers multiple global news stories, led by Iran’s state funeral for Ayatollah Ali Khamenei after his assassination in early Israeli-US strikes against Iran. Topic: Tehran funeral processions and regional ceasefire uncertainty; plus other headlines (Sudan atrocity warnings, Meta/Instagram child sexual abuse ads, Pakistan placenta smuggling, Monaco bombing suspect, NASA Swift telescope rescue, and a Taylor Swift/Travis Kelce wedding rumor).

Guests

Fahnaz Fasehi (New York Times UN bureau chief; reported on Iran for ~30 years) and Nawal al-Maghafi (BBC correspondent in Tehran and later Bandar Abbas).

Key claims

Khamenei led Iran’s military, nuclear and missile programs and proxy alliances; legacy is mixed (supporters cite strength, opponents cite brutal crackdowns). Iran’s week-long funeral is framed as regime resilience; his successor son Mochtaba is reportedly in hiding and may not appear due to security fears.

Notable examples

funeral route includes prayers in Najaf and Karbala, then Qom and burial in Mashhad; Bandar Abbas residents fear a strait closure if the ceasefire breaks.

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The Funeral of Khamenei Begins

0:45 to 3:30

Discussion about the funeral processions for Ayatollah Ali Khamenei in Tehran.

“Four months after his assassination in one of the first strikes of the Israeli-US war with Iran, the funeral processions of the former Supreme Leader of Iran, Ayatollah Ali Khamenei, have begun in Tehran.”

Legacy of Khamenei Discussed

3:30 to 7:19

Fahnaz Fasehi discusses Khamenei's impact and leadership in Iran.

“First though, let's hear from Fahnaz Fasehi.”

Life in Bandar Abbas Amid War

7:19 to 13:19

Nawal al-Maghafi reports from Bandar Abbas, sharing local perspectives on the war.

“And very briefly, I mean, some people think he may not actually be alive and it could just be the idea of him that's actually being used as a figurehead at the moment.”

Headlines Overview

14:01 to 14:55

Learn about recent global news highlights, including US funding cuts in Somalia and arrests in the UK.

“weeks with ideas on how to prevent atrocity crimes in El Abed and in other places in Kordofan.”

Human Placenta Smuggling Investigation

14:55 to 17:42

Discover the disturbing case of human placenta smuggling for anti-aging treatments in Pakistan.

“A number of people have already been arrested in this case.”

Monaco Bombing Investigation

17:43 to 23:21

Get insights into the bombing in Monaco, the suspect's identity, and the impact on the community.

“Now, an Interpol red notice has been issued for a Ukrainian woman who police have named as the main suspect in a bomb attack on an apartment building in Monaco on Monday evening.”

NASA's Swift Observatory Mission

23:21 to 24:13

Learn about NASA's mission to save the Swift Observatory telescope from re-entry.

“in China, because it actually wasn't inevitable.”

Warnings of Violence in Sudan

24:13 to 28:00

Hear about the urgent warnings of violence in Sudan and the call to action from the UN Human Rights Chief.

“NASA has launched a robotic mission to prevent one of its telescopes from burning up in the atmosphere.”

UN Human Rights Warnings on Sudan

28:00 to 32:44

Learn about the dire warnings from the UN about impending atrocities in Sudan.

“we heard from Amnesty International, which has put together a detailed report on war crimes perpetrated by the Rapid Support Forces in El Fasha in Western Sudan last year.”

Conditions for Civilians in El Abed

32:44 to 35:45

Hear firsthand accounts of the dire situation faced by civilians in El Abed.

“it's clearly a terrifying time for the civilians of El Abed.”
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Meta's Controversial Ads Investigation

35:45 to 40:34

Explore the alarming findings about Meta's advertisement practices involving child exploitation.

“Now, a BBC Eye investigation has discovered that the tech giant Meta is running paid advertisements on Instagram in India, which promote child sexual abuse material.”

Landmark Discovery at National Archives

42:04 to 42:50

Learn about a significant find at the National Archives related to the Declaration of Independence.

“Graham Moore, who's the curator of the National Archives' Revolution 250 exhibition, spoke to the BBC about the find.”

Rumors of Taylor Swift's Wedding

42:51 to 48:07

Explore the buzz surrounding Taylor Swift's rumored wedding to Travis Kelsey.

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New York Wedding Coverage

48:08 to 48:22

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0:39Hello and welcome to NewsHour live from the BBC World Service in London. I'm Rebecca Kesby. Four months after his assassination in one of the first strikes of the Israeli-US war with Iran, the funeral processions of the former Supreme Leader of Iran, Ayatollah Ali Khamenei, have begun in Tehran. Well, the former Supreme Leader's body will lie in state in Tehran's Grand Masala before being moved to his hometown next week. His coffin is flanked by those of four other members of his family who were killed in that strike, including his one-year-old granddaughter. Thousands of people have gathered in Tehran today to pay their respects to the man who led their country for more than three decades.

1:40The leaders of Pakistan and several Central Asian states attended and senior dignitaries from several states, including Russia, India and China, were also present. The main funeral prayers will be tomorrow, with tens of thousands expected to attend. The BBC's Nawal al-Maghafi is also there and described the mood in the city. I mean, it's quite an extraordinary event. We were on the train today from the south. We came into Tehran and the train was full of mourners that have come from all over the country to Tehran to come to this funeral. And then as soon as you come out, the mood in the city has completely changed.

2:18There are billboards all over the city with his photo on them. And there's music playing across the city. Anasheed, I don't know if you can hear it now in the background, which is Islamic funeral music and Quran. And as you walk around the city, everyone's wearing black, preparing for tomorrow. And we're set to see quite a, you know, a big schedule ahead of us in the next couple of days. Tomorrow, they are taking his body across the city. And there are two prayers that are happening. And that will also happen on the Sunday. And then on Monday, they're actually moving him to Iraq. They're taking him for prayers in Najaf and Karbala, which are two of Shia Islam's holiest sites.

2:59And then after that, they bring him back to Iran, where they'll take him to Qom, which is also a very famous Shia holy site. And from there to Mashhad, where they'll finally bury him. I mean, he was killed in February. and so they have been waiting for the right moment to hold this huge event. They brought in journalists from all over the world and it's a show of power and a show of strength to the world. It's the regime's way of saying we're here to stay and we're still firmly in power. That's the BBC's Nawal El-Maghaffi in Tehran. More from her in a moment. First though, let's hear from Fahnaz Fasehi.

3:33She's the New York Times UN bureau chief and has reported on Iran from inside and outside the country for 30 years or so. Ali Khamenei was not the first supreme leader, but I asked her if he ended up being the most consequential leader of Iran since the revolution in 1979. Yes, Khomeini, you know, led a state. If the founder of the revolution, Ayatollah Khomeini, led a revolution on top of the monarchy, the state of the Islamic Republic really has been defined by Ayatollah Khomeini's rule because he reigned for, ruled for over 30 years. He was instrumental in developing Iran's military program, nuclear program, missiles program, the alliances of the proxy militia that are around the region.

4:32And also, we have to say that part of his legacy for his opponents and for dissidents is that he really ruled with an iron fist. Under his rule, we had waves of protests against the government, brutal crackdowns. Just in this past January, a massacre killing, he writes organizations say, at least 7 ,000 protesters. So his legacy is mixed. His supporters see him as this symbol of the Islamic Republic's strength. and his opponents see him as a brutal dictator. Yes, as you say, he really did expand Iran's influence abroad across the region, didn't he? How is the country now after his death in terms of its influence?

5:21Well, the country, you know, the Iranian government in this funeral that it is staging, a week-long funeral, is really trying to portray a regime that survived a war with two superpowers, the United States and Israel, and a regime that has endured and it wants to project strength. But we know that the war is far from over. Negotiations are fragile with the United States and Mr. Khamenei's son who succeeded him, Mochtaba Khamenei, has been in hiding for months and it remains unclear whether he's going to show up or not. Well, I wanted to ask you about that because we've not seen him or heard his voice since this assassination.

6:10We've only had text messages from him which have been voiced by others. His wife was killed in that attack at the beginning of the war. Do we think we're going to see him? I don't think so. I think that from, you know, the signs are that, you know, that Iran's security forces are nervous about Mr. Khamenei making an appearance. You know, these funerals are going to be estimated attended by millions of people. So, you know, protecting him is going to be challenging. He didn't show up for his wife's memorial service on Wednesday. His teenage son was also killed in the attack. And also his father, you know, who he has succeeded.

6:57So in normal times, Mr. Khamenei would be leading these funerals. He would be reciting the prayer of the dead over his father's body. And he would sort of, you know, make a public appearance to his followers to say that this is really the start of my reign. but where he's just, he has been and remains to be a leader in absentia. And very briefly, I mean, some people think he may not actually be alive and it could just be the idea of him that's actually being used as a figurehead at the moment. We don't have any evidence that he's not alive. In fact, you know, my reporting and sources in the Iranian government and also American officials that we talked to say that Mr.

7:43Khamenei is alive, although he's been gravely injured. Part of the reason we heard he hasn't made a public appearance and you haven't heard his voice is because he sustained severe burns to his face, his vocal cords have been damaged, and, you know, he's had multiple surgeries on his legs. So he was waiting to recover before he shows up. But, you know, now you have to think, like, you know, when is that moment going to come? When is, you know, Iran security services going to feel like the situation is stable enough and that the threat of an assassination has been removed for him to show his face?

8:22That's Farnas Fasihi there from the New York Times. Well, we can hear more from our correspondent in Tehran now, Nawal al-Maghafi. And obviously, this funeral was delayed by the war that's been going on between the US, Israel and Iran over the past four months. The fragile ceasefire currently in place has allowed the funeral to take place and it's also given Nawal the chance to get out of the capital, to travel to the south of the country. She's been to the southern Iranian port of Banda Abbas to check up on the current situation in the Strait of Hormuz, which has obviously proven to be Iran's key bargaining chip in all of this.

8:58So how are Iranians at the heart of this conflict viewing this uncertain peace? We're on a fishing boat off the southern coast of Iran, heading out into the Strait of Hormuz. It's early in the morning and already the stifling heat is overwhelming. As we sail further out to sea, we find dozens of boats anchored, waiting for permission to move. We are right at the heart of the Strait of Hormuz and behind me is an international ship that's been captured by the Iranians. It's easy to forget how vital these ships are for day-to-day life. They're carrying fuel, they're carrying fertilizer. And when they're stopped, prices go up for all of us.

9:40In the last few months, this waterway has become a bottleneck and a crucial weapon for Iran. We're in the car driving across Bandar Abbas City on our way to the mayor's office. I want to speak to him about what he thinks about this war and about the ceasefire and its fragility. We arrive at a government complex and meet Mehdi Nobani in his office. He's been the city's mayor since 2021. There are many in Israel and in Washington who say this war has been a success. They've killed your supreme leader. They've killed multiple military commanders. They've attacked military sites, weapons depots, radar sites.

10:20What would you say to that? Not at all. Iran has been successful because Israel and the U.S. haven't reached their goals. If the ceasefire breaks down, Iran will close the strait for sure. As that fragile ceasefire continues to hold, life carries on as normal. We're heading out to a local market. The alleyways are lined with produce and motorbikes weave through the crowd. I'm just walking around the market in the heart of Bander Abbas and it is bustling with people. It's quite late in the evening, around 8pm, and it's packed. People are buying fruits, they're buying cherries and grapes, which are quite popular here.

11:07There are shops that are selling sunglasses, selling toys, and each one of them is quite busy. Because the weather here is scorching hot, and so the day really starts at night. And it's made me think that Bandar Abbas is always seen through the lens of its strategic importance, through the lens of the Strait of Hormuz and the impact it has on the global economy. But we very rarely see it through the eyes of its people. They've had no say in this war, and yet they're the ones that have had to endure it. And so it's very interesting just walking around and speaking to people about the impact it's had on them and how it's affected their lives.

11:48We meet two women, Fatima and Mesoume, who are selling fruit from their stalls. Most are still too afraid to speak, scared of the repercussions. Fatima has begun selling peaches once again. Her son lost his job during the war. Her family now relies on what she alone can bring home.

12:11We didn't want a war. Trump wanted a war. He attacked us unexpectedly. We didn't want this.

12:27The rhythm of the market has returned, but war is still the topic of conversation. Nearby, 40-year-old Masumi is listening and wants to join in.

12:42Everywhere is a problem. It causes a lot of economic issues, but that's war. Everyone needs to get used to it. We need to be patient.

13:00Standing amongst the people of Bandar Abbas, it becomes clear that this city's story can't be told through the lens of geopolitics. Behind every calculation about global trade is a family whose life hangs in the balance. The BBC's Nawal El-Maghafi reporting from Bandar Abbas and on condition that none of her material is used on the BBC's Persian service. And that's a restriction applied to all international media organisations operating in Iran.

13:36Coming up later on the programme, the UN Human Rights Chief Volga Turk tells us that a catastrophe is unfolding in Sudan and the world must act now to prevent it. This is not a drill. It is a red alert that needs to land on the desks of heads of state and government around the world. Their phones should be running hot in the coming days and weeks with ideas on how to prevent atrocity crimes in El Abed and in other places in Kordofan. More on that to come in about 15 minutes. Our other headlines this hour. The African Union has called for an emergency meeting after the United States said it would stop funding the UN military mission against al-Shabaab militants in Somalia, and two Romanian men have been jailed here in Britain for stabbing a journalist on behalf of the Iranian government.

14:37This is Rebecca Kesby with NewsHour live from the BBC. Next to a rather disturbing story from Pakistan, authorities there are saying they're investigating a group of people suspected of smuggling human placenta from hospitals to make anti-aging injections. Just to clarify, placenta is an organ that develops during pregnancy to feed the growing foetus with nutrients and oxygen. A number of people have already been arrested in this case. And Barisan Itharajan is our South Asia expert. So what do we know so far? Police in Islamabad, they carried out a raid a few days ago and arrested five people, including three Chinese nationals, on the suspicion of that they were allegedly trying to smuggle the human placenta.

15:25And when they raided the house, they found more than 200 kilograms of this placenta. They were drying them up. And when the police asked them what it was for, then they claimed it was a sheep's placenta. But later on following up an investigation, they found out that it was a human placenta. And now they're investigating further whether it was all procured only in hospitals in Islamabad or in Rawalpindi or is there any wider operation. And according to the Federal Investigation Agency of Pakistan, these people, the suspects were trying to export it to Southeast Asia for these anti-aging injections.

16:06and these pleasantries were bought only for about$3 when it is processed, according to police, that it can even, the anti-aging injections can go up to$2 ,500. Of course, there is no scientific evidence, there is no proper study whether it can be used for these anti-aging injections. Yeah, and surely this is illegal, isn't it, to take any kind of medical waste or parts from hospitals and I guess the assumption is the women delivering the babies were totally unaware of this. It's possible because according to the rules, they should be disposed of. The semen placenta should be properly disposed of by the hospital.

16:43And there are agencies which do this work. And that is why the Pakistani authorities are trying to find out whether other hospitals were also involved. And it cannot be only five people or the five suspects. So there is the disposal companies or hospital authorities or even customs people possibly involved. That is the angle they're looking at how they were able to do this for all these months. And also one of these federal investigative officials told the BBC Woodhous service in Islamabad. This was the first time they were coming across this smuggling of these human organs like a placenta, because previously they had dealt with issues like liver and kidney.

17:25So even they themselves were surprised that this was happening. So it could not have happened without the authorities or hospital authorities knowing because it is coming out of the hospitals. And that carries a jail term of up to 10 years. That's our South Asia expert, Ambarasan Ethirajan. Now, an Interpol red notice has been issued for a Ukrainian woman who police have named as the main suspect in a bomb attack on an apartment building in Monaco on Monday evening. Anastasia Berezovska is 39 and the authorities say she may be on her way to Germany as it's thought she speaks the language. Police say that the perpetrator was disguised as a man when leaving a package in the hallway of a building which then exploded, injuring three people.

18:12Well, to get more details, I've been speaking to Cassandra Tanti. She's editor-in-chief of Monaco Life, a digital news service there, and she began with more details on that crime. Today we had the press conference and it was the first time that we'd actually seen an image of the suspect. The Monaco authorities were able to identify this woman who they actually thought was a man. The investigation changed when they spoke to a member of the public who told them that it actually was a woman, not a man. And we do know that she did some reconnaissance stakeouts of the area in the days leading up to the attack.

18:51For two of those visits, she was dressed as a man in the bucket hat in the visuals that we've all seen. But there was one day that she actually was dressed as a woman. And that is how police were able to put the two together and to identify her. She apparently has quite an identifying tattoo on her arm as a snake. And from there, they were able to pinpoint what happened. and basically she had staked out the place and then she watched them go to dinner. She was waiting for them when they returned. She watched them approach the residence building. She took the explosive out of her bag. She placed it in the residence entranceway and then left.

19:30And then you can see, as the police say, her turning around watching the victims enter the residence building and then she detonated the bomb remotely. Right. So that's the suspect. What do we know of the victims? I mean, luckily, nobody was killed, but they were injured, including a child. Is it understood that they were the targets of this? Yeah, look, the Monaco police are really reluctant to name the victims. I'm not particularly sure why, because it is known internationally. So we know that it was Vadim, who is the Ukrainian businessman. It was his long term partner, and it was his 13 year old son.

20:09And this was confirmed to me personally by the lawyer of the family who is based here in Monaco. So I do believe those details to be correct. Right. So this is Vadim Yemoleev, who's 58, I think, a very wealthy real estate developer, I think originally from Ukraine as well, but he relinquished his Ukrainian citizenship a few years ago. Do we know any details on that? Yeah, he relinquished his Ukrainian citizenship and actually obtained a Cypriot citizenship and then obtained a Monaco residency in 2021. So he's been a resident here for a few years. Right. So, I mean, I guess the big mystery is the motive to all of this, because obviously two people involved, it seems, are from a Ukrainian background.

20:55And obviously people will be sensitive to the fact that the war is on. And And so maybe leaping to conclusions about whether that was a reason. But I guess we don't really know, do we, at this point? It's remarkable. Everybody's jumping to conclusions. There's also speculation that it was his son who was involved in some cryptocurrency scam here in Europe. Maybe it was related to him. But the lawyer of the family made it very clear to me that there is no clear motive at this stage. We don't know what happened. What's all this doing to the local mood, though? because Monaco's got a reputation of being a really safe location.

21:33This must have shocked local people. Look, it did. And it just goes to show that Monaco is not immune from isolated incidences like this. It is completely unprecedented. We've never had a bombing attack like this. But life goes on. I mean, we have the Monaco jumping here at the moment. I don't think anybody necessarily feels unsafe. It wasn't an attack on the people. It wasn't a terrorist attack. It was an attack on an individual. So I think everybody is able to put it in context, but the authorities have responded immediately. There was press conferences held to keep the public informed. And just in terms of those that were injured, Vadim Yomaleev and his family, do we know about their injuries or whether they can make a full recovery?

22:19Any details on that? Again, the police are reluctant to confirm exactly what situation each family member is in, but we do know one is still in a critical condition. We do think that is Vadim. Again, it's speculation at this stage because no one is willing to actually confirm any of this. And the other two are in stable conditions, but from people I've spoken to, we do believe that people have lost limbs and there's a 13-year-old child involved, which is just absolutely shocking. Yeah, and the deputy prosecutor of Monaco is saying that investigations are still going on because there could be possible accomplices to this.

22:58Yeah, well, they were adamant in the press conference that they don't think this was a one-person job, but they do believe that this was a coordinated attack and that there was more than this lady Anastasia involved. So that is their next line of questioning. And obviously police here are pursuing the investigation as to who actually coordinated this attack. That's Cassandra Tandy, the editor-in-chief of Monaco Life on that Interpol Red Notice put out on the chief suspect in that bombing in Monaco.

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24:13Welcome back to NewsHour. NASA has launched a robotic mission to prevent one of its telescopes from burning up in the atmosphere. Gravity is gradually pulling the Swift Observatory telescope towards Earth. But in a mission lasting several months, a rescue spacecraft will be released from a jet rather than launched from the ground. But how difficult is it to correct the direction of a falling telescope? Regine Caputo is the project scientist from the Swift Observatory. She's been speaking to NewsHour's Paul Henley. This is one of the big challenges, is approaching a spacecraft that's traveling at thousands of miles per hour in orbit with another spacecraft and trying to gently attach to it and then raise it up to a higher orbit.

25:00How will it work? What are the nuts and bolts? Well, so the spacecraft is called Link, and it was built by Catalyst Space, an American company. and it's basically a propulsion system and it has on it three arms which will grab the back of the Swift Observatory, attach itself and then lift it up in a manoeuvre that's really never been performed before. This observatory must really be worth saving. It's 20 years old, isn't it? Yes, yes. But we all know that things, you know, get better with age. As we have been doing more science with the Swift Observatory, we've been uncovering some really tremendous, amazing science.

25:51And it's a very important and unique part of the NASA fleet. Tell us why. So it observes the most explosive objects in the universe. And these are very transient, they're very fast events. They're called gamma ray bursts. And when it detects them, it can also autonomously slew to point the two other telescopes to be able to characterize and follow up what happened. And so they're really a great diagnostic for these really, really cool astronomical events. Do all such objects in space have a shelf life because they're gradually pulled in towards the Earth? So all things, well, everything does have a shelf life, but in particular, satellites in low Earth orbit are particularly, this is part of their lifespan, is that they will re-enter orbit eventually.

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26:47But over the long term, I mean, how long are we talking? So Swift was originally put into an orbit of about 600 kilometers. And so after 20 years, depending a little bit on the solar cycle, it's about to reenter. So that was a particularly high orbit for other satellites that aren't telescopes or doing astronomical observations. Their lifespan is much shorter. And this whole operation, when will it be over? How can you tell if it's all going well? Overall, by the fall, we expect to know if things were successful. That's Regina Caputo. They're scientists from the Swift Observatory. And we'll be heading to the Swift wedding later this hour.

27:43You're listening to NewsHour live from the BBC. I'm Rebecca Kesby. More now on one of our main headlines today. The increasingly urgent warnings of impending violence in the Sudanese city of El Abade. You may remember that earlier this week here on NewsHour, we heard from Amnesty International, which has put together a detailed report on war crimes perpetrated by the Rapid Support Forces in El Fasha in Western Sudan last year. They even named leading figures in the militia that they say should face trial. They also warned that a similar massacre is being planned imminently by the RSF in the central southern city of Al-Abaid, a strategically important city currently encircled by RSF fighters which have massed on the outskirts.

28:31Well, today, the UN Human Rights Chief Volker Turk amplified those warnings, speaking at a press conference in Geneva. He says a catastrophe is unfolding in El Abade and the world must now act to prevent it. This is not a drill. It is a red alert that needs to land on the desks of heads of state and government around the world. Their phones should be running hot in the coming days and weeks with ideas on how to prevent atrocity crimes in El Abed and in other places in Kordofan. Well, our Geneva correspondent Imogen Foulkes was at that press conference and managed to catch up with Volker Turk afterwards.

29:14She asked him to expand on those stark warnings. We have seen that pattern before. We saw it last year. I remember when I went out very strongly in September before Al-Fashar, warning that we would have a catastrophe happening. And that's exactly what happened a month later in October. In three days, 6 ,000 people got killed at least. We have seen kidnappings, abductions, mass rape, people disappeared. And that's what I feel will happen now in L.O.V.A.D. What can you do about it, though? I mean, we have the Human Rights Council here. They're discussing it. They can't prevent it. We can make the cost higher.

29:59And I think the good thing about the Human Rights Council session today is that nobody, Nobody can say that they didn't hear about our warnings, and not just about the warnings of the High Commissioner, but also about the warnings that a special session of the Human Rights Council sends out to the world. So, as I said in my speech, I hope that what this warning will end up on the desks of heads of government, heads of state. They can prevent this from happening. If they pick up the phone and call and see what they can do to prevent this from happening, that's what's needed. Some of these governments are actually actively involved in this conflict, supporting one side or the other, or selling weapons.

30:44Could there be consequences for that? I think we need to look very seriously at who is providing weapons. I asked, for example, that the arms embargo be extended to the whole of the country and not just Afur, that those who sell weapons are put on notice. Obviously, we always know that this takes much longer time to identify and to attribute, but I think we need to give, again, also a warning to all those who benefit from this war. At some stage, we will have the evidence, we will be able to point out what's happening, and then accountability questions indeed will be asked, and they need to be done.

31:28You talked about seeing a pattern that you'd already seen in El Fasher. In fact, this is a pattern we've seen in many places. The spreading of hate speech online, it used to be on the radio, I'm thinking of Rwanda. The besiegement and the denial of the support to life, I'm thinking of Srebrenica. Here we are again. Yes, and I was in Paris this week and I had a very interesting conversation with the foreign minister and he actually reminded me that there was an initiative by Mexico and France 10 years ago that he has now revitalized about no longer using the veto in the Security Council when it comes to the prevention of atrocity crimes and I fully support this because the Security Council has teeth, the Security Council can do something about it.

32:30And when it comes to the prevention of atrocity crimes, I hope that the Security Council lives up to its responsibilities of prevention. That's the UN Human Rights Chief Volker Turk speaking to the BBC's Imogen folks. Well, it's clearly a terrifying time for the civilians of El Abed. It's home to around half a million people in normal times. But so many people have been displaced by the civil war and fled to the city, that the true number living there is thought to be much higher. Before we came on air, we managed to get through to one man who we're not going to name to protect his identity. But he's a Sudanese aid worker in Al-Abaid and he told me how the people were feeling in the city.

33:26here. That's why here in North Kordofan state there is more than 800 ,000 displaced people that are living in North Kordofan at the moment and they are living in a miserable situation and there's no fish and life supplies, there's no electricity, there's no clean state water. All of the people that were fishing water from very remote areas that can be also the girls can be subject to abuse. So there's lots of extra people staying in the city at the moment because they fled from other places. And then you mentioned that the girls, the women are particularly frightened. Can you tell us a little bit more about that?

34:08The drones attack the fuel station, drones attack the water supply station. And that's why the girls are moving very far. The place where the displaced people are living is very crowded. So that crowded is a little tools for the abuse, tools for the violence against the girls. It's available in the camp. There's no light. Understood. So the girls and women are having to travel further afield to try to get things like food and water, and then that brings them into harm's way. I mean, we understand that there are fighters from the RSF around the city in quite large numbers. And then you mentioned that there have already been drone strikes on the city in recent days, taking out some of the infrastructure.

34:56So, I mean, do you already feel like the city is under attack from the RSF? They're the only one open road that can go to White Nile State. All directions, it is under siege. And so do civilians then feel that they can't leave, they can't escape, even though we're hearing that there are concerns that there could be an imminent attack. Some of them, they don't have another clue because people are poor. The people are really tired. They are really tired. They are really exhausted. The rain season is approaching. And, you know, there is a fine of cholera outbreak in the displaced camp. There is a fine of cholera outbreak now.

35:36But if there is a beef, people can return back to their homes. One aid worker speaking to us a short time ago from El Abaid. And as he said there, there's cholera already in some of those camps and the rains are due as well, which could cause problems. Now, a BBC Eye investigation has discovered that the tech giant Meta is running paid advertisements on Instagram in India, which promote child sexual abuse material. The ads use terms including rape and child video and link to content on other platforms. Well, Divya Aira has this report now, and I must warn you, it does contain descriptions you might find distressing.

36:20It began with a video on my Instagram feed, a clip of an Indian influencer. Her style is flirtatious, even provocative, but it's not pornographic. Watching that video led to more. Instagram's algorithm quickly began serving up similar content, and my feed soon filled with accounts I'd never searched for. Increasingly, sexual and explicit videos featuring scantily clad women. Everybody knows I'm a good girl. Using a new phone and an alias account, I followed the trail laid out by Instagram's algorithm to see where it would take me. Within days, and in violation of Instagram's own policy, I was shown an advertisement featuring naked men and women having sex.

37:07Then it took a darker turn. The ad started promoting material involving exploitation of children. They linked out to apps where users could buy videos of child sex abuse. One ad showed what appeared to be a 7 or 8-year-old girl crying, with text indicating she had been sexually assaulted. I reported it to Meta. They replied, saying the ad did not violate their guidelines. While Meta does have safeguards in place to remove and report material showing the sexual exploitation of children, it appears that illegal content can still slip through the net, not just as user posts, but as paid advertising.

37:48I worked at Facebook for 11 years in a variety of leadership roles, helping to shape product and market strategies. Brian Boland is a former vice president at Meta. He helped build the company's ad strategy, but later left Meta and publicly raised concerns about user safety on its platforms. When an advertisement hits, is uploaded into the system, it goes through an automated review process. So there's been an increased reliance on technical solutions. And then some they may put into a human review process. And then people have to review and manually approve those ads. And how high do these decisions go about how much the algorithm, how strictly it should be monitoring or how loosely it should be monitoring?

38:33For those decisions, it's hard to say exactly who's responsible, but you don't get major decisions without the most senior people and knowing about it. Meta, which owns Instagram, later told us it doesn't knowingly target ads featuring children to users identified as having an inappropriate interest in such material. but acknowledged its ad review process may not detect all policy violations. At the Mumbai Tech Week, Meta's innovations are being celebrated.

39:07Arun Srinivas is the head of Meta in India. I took my chance to confront him with our findings and to ask for answers.

39:33answers. Mr Srinivas disappeared backstage and his security guards prevented me from following him. In a statement, Meta told us, they fight child exploitation on their platforms, block links to third-party websites hosting this material, remove ads and accounts found to violate their policies and report such content to the authorities. They said they had removed content flagged by the BBC and denied prioritising revenue over user safety. Divya Arya reporting there and following her investigation India's IT minister Ashwini Vaishnaw directed his officials to summon Meta to explain why the company's been running adverts promoting child sexual abuse material on Instagram in India For the full documentary on this, do search for the careless machine exposing Instagram's darkest secret on the World Service YouTube page

40:42you with news hour live from the bbc i'm rebecca kesby now tomorrow july the 4th is a u.s independence day like no other not just because the united states is celebrating 250 years since the declaration of independence but because president trump is leading a national celebration of, well, himself. July 4th, we will have the greatest show of all on the National Mall. Your favourite president will be speaking. So please show up. Donald Trump there speaking a few days ago at the Great American State Fair rally in Washington, D.C. Back in July 1957, the tone from then-Senator John F. Kennedy reading the Declaration of Independence was a little bit different.

41:28We hold these truths to be self-evident. that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their creator with certain unalienable rights, that among these are life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness. Well, 250 years on from the original Declaration of Independence in the US, an unknown copy of the physical declaration has been found here in the UK in the National Archives. The document, printed in New Hampshire in 1776, is one of only 11 known to still exist and the only one here in Britain. Graham Moore, who's the curator of the National Archives' Revolution 250 exhibition, spoke to the BBC about the find.

42:12This is a really landmark find for us. It's an amazing discovery. And this is part of that story of how the Declaration of Independence 250 years ago, the news of independence is starting to circulate around the 13 colonies. And it shows how as well those ideas are circulating around the world too. Because what happens then is after being printed in New Hampshire, this copy of the declaration was taken aboard an American privateer. That's a ship with a commission to attack British vessels at sea and taken all the way across the Atlantic in Christmas Eve, 1776. That same ship is then captured by a Royal Navy vessel.

42:48And then that is how it comes to us at the National Archives. Finally today, we're going to stay in the States because rather unusually on this programme, we're going to a story that may or may not be happening. Global pop star icon Taylor Swift is rumoured to be marrying her fiancé, football star of the Kansas City Chiefs, Travis Kelsey. The rumour is that it could be happening within hours imminently at Maddiston Square Garden in Manhattan, New York. Thousands of fans have already gathered nearby in anticipation. The road closures as well, heavy police presence. But as I say, we still don't know if it's actually happening and if it's happening there.

43:28Even New York City Mayor Zoran Mamdani has been cryptic about whether or not the wedding is on. He focused on the heat wave this weekend. My recommendation to all New Yorkers is to stay inside and stay cool. And if you happen to be getting married at Madison Square Garden, you will be staying inside and you will be staying cool. And I think it's a good example to set for the city at large. New York City Police Commissioner Jessica Tisch said the department was staffing an event at the arena, but she didn't go into details. In a briefing about major events happening this weekend in New York City, I would be remiss not to mention an event that we are tracking at Madison Square Garden on Friday night.

44:13The NYPD will, of course, have a detail in place, but I am not going to go into more specifics on that at this time. Well, these New Yorkers had mixed feelings about the upheaval caused by the rumours. I didn't know she was getting married today, especially not in New York. I thought it was going to be something with, like, more gardens, more flowers, more, like, I don't know, tropical. goal. I like Travis more. I watch a bit of football. I listen to a little bit of Taylor She's a diehard fan. So yeah, I think they're probably really happy together if they got married so fast. And I hope it's a beautiful wedding.

44:51But I think that they should do it somewhere that's less inconveniencing to the general populace of New York City. Well, the BBC's Netta Tafik is in New York City. So is this wedding happening or not? Well, if it's not happening, this is the most elaborate ruse I've ever seen, because I am right in front of Madison Square Garden, and I can tell you that guests have begun arriving in black SUVs with black tinted windows. I have seen now over 20 black SUVs, if not more. They're going through different checkpoints because there are cones all throughout this 7th Avenue, which has been completely blocked off along with other streets around the arena.

45:28There are very smartly dressed men and women in suits and gowns checking them on a guest list. And then they're going into a white canopied tent. that is also completely blocked with curtains. And from there, guests are rumored to be going up an escalator right into the arena. There are NYPD police all over securing. And they've even set up this barricaded area where I can tell you there are about, you know, 50 or so Swifty fans. The number keeps growing who are here to kind of catch a glimpse themselves, take some photos. Others are kind of mocking people here in the heat wave sitting here taking photos.

46:05but it looks to all be happening. This was the time we were told guests would be arriving for a cocktail hour before the reception. A thousand people expected in total. So you mentioned the guests. It sounds as if you can't actually see anyone through those blacked out windows. But I mean, have we got any clue as to who might be turning up? Presumably really famous people. Yeah, I mean, you think about it. These two, the most known global figures in America, you know, global pop star Taylor Swift, three-time NFL Super Bowl champion Travis Kelsey. They're really merging the world of entertainment, sport, even fashion.

46:43And so certainly the likes of, you know, her best friend Selena Gomez. We've seen Dua Lipa photographed here in New York, as well as Ed Sheeran, Sabrina Carpenter. Also, Phoebe Waller-Bridge. And Graham Norton, who, let's not forget, got an invite right on his show from Taylor Swift. She has made the joke that for her, a wedding isn't going to be stressful because she's just going to invite everybody she knows. So we do expect a very, very long list of very high-profile celebrities, and that is why there's so much secrecy and security around this. I mean, there has been a little bit of cynicism as well, some saying that it's all a branding attempt.

47:20And I noticed that Swift was born in Pennsylvania. Kelsey comes from Ohio. Why are they getting married in New York? Yeah, you know, Taylor Swift does have an apartment in Tribeca here in New York. She's often talked about how the kind of ethos of New York, where people leave celebrities alone, they don't feel the need to run up to them. They kind of exist as part of the landscape of the city rather than a spectacle, that she found that really freeing, that she loved that. Why she chose Madison Square Garden, who knows? It's not the most romantic location, after all. It doesn't have much curb appeal.

47:56Certainly she has the funds to make the decor inside look amazing. And we have seen delivery boxes with kind of garden party trees, people guessing there'll be a castle built inside, so perhaps reminiscent of her engagement proposal. But there are other places that can be secured, so only she can answer why here. Neda, I'm told it's got really good air con. That could be one reason. I would love that right now. The BBC's Netta Tawfiq there on the hot streets of New York covering that for us. There's some pictures on the BBC Live page for the wedding, which does indicate that some very fancy people are turning up in fancy outfits.

48:36So it does look as if that wedding is on for the time being, though, from us. Thanks for listening.

48:44When you hear the phrase made in China, what do you think? I'm Tristan Redman. And I'm Asma Khalid. And together we host the Global Story podcast from the BBC. And today on our show, we look at the origins and evolution of made in China, because it actually wasn't inevitable. What we're talking about is the world's largest communist nation is at the beating heart of the capitalist system. For more, listen to The Global Story on bbc.com or wherever you get your podcasts.

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The coffin of Iran's late Supreme Leader, Ali Khamenei, is on display along with those of four family members at the Grand Mosalla mosque in Tehran. Millions of people are expected to attend Saturday's official ceremony. We hear from our correspondent in Tehran. Also on the programme: a Ukrainian woman is named as the main suspect in the Monaco bomb attack; and Taylor Swift and Travis Kelce are rumoured to be tying the knot today in New York's Madison Square Garden. (Photo: An Iranian man walks in front of a billboard of late Iranian Supreme Leader Ayatollah Ali Khamenei ahead of his funeral ceremonies in Tehran on July 3, 2026. Credit: EPA/Shutterstock)

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