In short
A BBC NewsHour episode focused on President Trump hosting Xi Jinping in Washington, with background reporting on China’s AI buildout, US-China talks on AI regulation, trade leverage (rare earths), and Taiwan. It also covers Ethiopia’s Tigray conflict escalation, Andre Agassi returning to competitive tennis as captain of the Laver Cup, a Ghanaian recycling project making school desks from plastic, a Denmark-US-Greenland defense deal, a rare To Kill a Mockingbird first edition found at an Oxfam shop, Morocco’s youth disengagement in parliamentary elections, and a speed-cubing segment on a new women’s Rubik’s Cube record.
Guests (named)
Dennis Wilder (US China expert; former NSC China director); Kalkidan Yibeltal (BBC Ethiopia correspondent); Andre Agassi (tennis player/captain); Drew Horn (GreenMet CEO; former DOE/White House official); Minik Rosing (University of Copenhagen geology professor; Greenlander); Justice Baidu (BBC Ghana reporter); Olivia Haisman Walker (Oxfam shop manager); Gregory Holyoke (BBC Monitoring North Africa); Jessica Friedrich (pioneering speed cuber); Siham Azarual (Moroccan activist); Rebecca Kesby (BBC interviewer).
Key claims
Trump-Xi summit is framed as “legacy” and likely short on deliverables; AI regulation faces hurdles because neither side fully understands frontier AI and bureaucracies lack expertise; trade truce may extend only six months due to rare-earth licensing disputes; Ethiopia’s peace deal is effectively collapsing with airport capture and renewed fighting orders; Greenland-US bases deal clarifies long-standing de facto arrangements and NATO/independence assurances; speed cubing success requires memorizing 1,000+ algorithms and “being possessed by the cube.”
Notable examples
Inner Mongolia’s $75B AI data-center expansion for Huawei and others; AI used in everyday life and police patrols; rare-earth licensing complaints affecting US defense firms; Tigray airport capture in Makale; plastic sachet desks in Accra costing about $60; Oxfam’s To Kill a Mockingbird first edition bought by the British Library for a four-figure sum; Morocco’s Gen Z protests and Ceuta migration; six-year-old Lian Yunji averaging 4.27 seconds on a 3x3x3 cube.
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Chapters
Tap a time to open that second in VOTrump Meets Xi: Setting the Stage
1:12 to 2:15
Overview of the upcoming summit between President Trump and Xi Jinping.
“Hello and welcome to News Hour from the BBC World Service.”
China's AI Ambitions in Inner Mongolia
2:15 to 2:49
Report on China's investment in AI and data centers in Inner Mongolia.
“there is a lot at stake and in a few minutes we'll be discussing how much progress is likely to be made.”
Life in Inner Mongolia: A Local Perspective
2:49 to 7:38
Insights into local life and the impact of AI developments on communities.
“I'm wandering through the grasslands of Inner Mongolia.”
Legacy and Leadership: Trump's and Xi's Goals
7:38 to 9:10
Discussion on the motivations behind Trump's and Xi's political goals.
“Well, what prospect is there of an agreement on possible regulation of AI with China forging ahead and a Trump administration and wary of giving up its current technological advantage.”
AI Regulation and Trade Tensions
9:10 to 12:12
Analysis of potential agreements on AI regulation and ongoing trade issues.
“It's about both leaders wanting to show that they have successfully managed the other side.”
Global Challenges: Climate Change and Cooperation
12:12 to 13:15
Exploration of the leaders' ability to address global challenges together.
“We've got to talk about Taiwan, always a potential flashpoint.”
Upcoming Segment Tease
14:00 to 14:37
Learn about a young Rubik's Cube prodigy and the world record they set.
“Still to come, the six-year-old who smashed the women's world record for solving a Rubik's Cube.”
News Headlines Overview
14:37 to 15:07
Hear the main news headlines including conflicts in Ethiopia and Central African Republic.
“Our main headlines from the newsroom at the moment.”
Ethiopia's Rising Conflict
15:07 to 18:54
Explore the escalating conflict in Ethiopia between the government and Tigrayan forces.
“Well, there are growing fears of a return to all-out conflict between the government of Ethiopia and rebel fighters from the northern region of Tigray.”
Andre Agassi's Return to Tennis
18:54 to 23:31
Discover Andre Agassi's perspective on returning to competitive tennis after retirement.
“Now, the man that said, I hate tennis, hate it with a dark and secret passion, is back, playing competitive tennis.”
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Innovative School Desks from Waste
25:38 to 28:00
Learn how a Ghanaian entrepreneur is recycling plastic waste into school desks.
“To Ghana in West Africa now, where an entrepreneur has found a way to solve two problems at once by turning waste plastic packaging into much-needed school desks.”
Classroom Insights from Ghana
28:00 to 29:01
Discover the impact of new desks on students' learning experiences in Ghana.
“but they are not paid for by the schools but with grants and corporate donations.”
Denmark-US-Greenland Defense Agreement
29:01 to 30:23
Learn about a new defense agreement between Denmark, the US, and Greenland and its implications.
“This is the BBC World Service in London.”
Professor Rosing on Greenland's Status
30:23 to 31:31
Hear Professor Rosing's perspective on Greenland's new agreements and independence.
“I'm not going to get into all the discussions that we've had but what I will say is that I am absolutely thrilled about this deal.”
Concerns Over US-Greenland Relations
31:31 to 33:34
Explore the historical context and current sentiments regarding US relations with Greenland.
“I think is very important for Greenland anyway.”
Drew Horn on the Impact of the Agreement
33:34 to 36:17
Listen to Drew Horn discuss the implications of the defense deal on critical minerals and security.
“And I think it has definitely been some dents in the trust.”
Misunderstandings and Negotiation Styles
36:17 to 37:31
Understand the nature of negotiations during the Trump administration regarding Greenland.
“Is that because Denmark, from your point of view, Denmark and Greenland weren't cooperating?”
Drew Horn's Perspective on Security
37:31 to 37:50
Hear Drew Horn's views on the US's commitment to Greenland's security.
“I think a lot of comments were taken out of context.”
Rare Book Discovery at Oxfam
37:50 to 41:43
Find out how a first edition of 'To Kill a Mockingbird' was discovered at an Oxfam shop.
“That was Drew Horn, who worked in the first Trump administration, founder, now CEO of GreenMet, that critical minerals firm.”
Parliamentary Elections in Morocco
44:04 to 48:32
Discussion on Morocco's parliamentary elections and youth disillusionment.
“Let's head to Morocco now because people there are taking part in parliamentary elections today.”
The Rise of Speed Cubing
48:32 to 51:40
Exploration of the recent Rubik's Cube world record by a six-year-old.
“It's unbelievable, especially the cubers from China nowadays.”
Transcript
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1:12Hello and welcome to News Hour from the BBC World Service. We're coming to you live from London. I'm James Menendez. And coming up a little later, the US, Denmark and Greenland strike a new defence deal after months of tension in which President Trump threatened repeatedly to seize the territory. Could a deal have been struck months ago? Also, after a six-year-old Chinese girl completes a Rubik's Cube in less than four and a half seconds, breaking the women's world record, we'll look into the mind-boggling world of speed cubing. That's coming up in half an hour. But our top story today takes us to Washington, D.C., where later today President Trump will welcome his Chinese counterpart Xi Jinping for a three-day summit at the White House.
1:55In fact, unusually, he'll be there on the tarmac at Joint Base Andrews in Maryland when President Xi's plane lands, a sign, perhaps, of how much this encounter matters, at least in visual terms. But what about the substance of this meeting between the leaders of the world's two economic and military superpowers? Trade, Taiwan, the wars in Iran and Ukraine, and AI. there is a lot at stake and in a few minutes we'll be discussing how much progress is likely to be made. But before that let's hear from China which is investing heavily to compete with the US in the development of AI. Much of that investment is happening far from China's major cities in places like Inner Mongolia where vast new data centres are being built to power the country's ambitions.
2:44Our China correspondent Laura Bicker sent us this report. I'm wandering through the grasslands of Inner Mongolia. This is a land of extraordinary scale. In front of me, I have towering wind turbines, endless rows of solar panels, and of course, beautiful horses rambling beneath them. To build the infrastructure that is desperately needed for AI, Inner Mongolia is key because it has vast amounts of wind and solar resources. And that's why China has chosen to build its AI data centres here, at remarkable speed. Buildings have risen out of the farmland in a matter of months, built by construction workers from all over the country.
3:37There is one phase of construction every year. This is the second phase. There are more to come. This has been a$75 billion investment.
3:51It doesn't do much good for us locals. They need educated people. They don't need that many workers. For me, I can only do some hard manual labour. This country has fewer data centres than the US for now. But this hub is a way of catching up. If China is going to lead the world in artificial intelligence development, this is where it is building the engine room that will drive that change. Just a few months ago, this corner of Inner Mongolia was farmland. Now, dozens of data centres have sprung up for the likes of Huawei and others. There is no sign that China is slowing down on this technology.
4:38across china ai is becoming part of everyday life from programming robot deliveries to aiding police on patrol it's moving out of the lab and onto the streets it's all part of beijing's ambition to embed ai in its economy officials have bristled at any mention of a slowdown try to think this from China's perspective, right? Jingyang is based in Hong Kong and is the Asia bureau chief of the business and tech media outlet The Information. The S4 country really have kneecapped China's AI development in the last several years. And then in spite of that, Chinese labs have, you know, managed to catch up.
5:23Why would China be incentivized to collaborate with, you know, America, which in Beijing's view has been kneecapping China's technological development, which has been trying to contain China's rights, unless there is something that Washington can offer to really threaten the deal. But others do see the urgency. David Finkelstein from the Center for Naval Analysis told a defense forum in Beijing that it was time for the two leaders to talk. I'm not sure they're going to come to any agreements anytime soon, but I think there's a lot I seriously think there's a lot of motivation to talk about these things.
5:59The use of AI in command and control and warfare, who's using it in their nuclear chain of command. This is scary stuff. Back in Inner Mongolia, the building work continues while farm workers gather up rows of plump potatoes for market. There has been little opposition to data centres here, unlike in the West. But there are still some quiet sceptics.
6:29If they demolish the village for a data center, it won't be good. I prefer living by the farmland. Away from the microphones, perhaps fearing reprisals, a few farmers told us they saw no benefits and feared for their land and their way of life. Others were keen to praise the country's leadership.
6:56Of course the data centre brings us benefits. It creates jobs. President Xi is raising living standards for the Chinese people. China is growing. We are now leading the world. This is no longer the China from the 1960s.
7:17President Xi has set the direction and will feel that in the long term, China can compete with the US on this technology. His government is focused on securing an AI-powered future, even as some of its people wonder whether they'll be part of it. That was Laura Bicker reporting our China correspondent. Well, what prospect is there of an agreement on possible regulation of AI with China forging ahead and a Trump administration and wary of giving up its current technological advantage. That was made clear at the UN General Assembly yesterday during President Trump's speech. Whoever wins AI, you have to remember this, and now I say whoever wins SI, whoever wins super intelligent, wins.
8:06That's the group that wins. And we're leading now over China by a lot and everyone else, and we're going to keep it that way. Dennis Wilder is a China expert with long experience at the top level of US government and intelligence, including two years as China director on the National Security Council during the George W. Bush administration. I asked him what he thought, first of all, each leader wanted from the meeting. Both leaders want to show, for legacy reasons, that they are managing this relationship. For Xi Jinping, it's all about the 21st Party Congress next year in October, where he wants his fourth term as leader of China.
8:46For him, it's very important domestically to show he's managing Trump. On Trump's side, this is really the sixth year of an eight-year presidency, and often we see American presidents go to foreign policy for legacy. You can see that in his Venezuela, his Cuba, his Iran, and China is part of his legacy. So my word for this summit is legacy. It's not about deliverables. It's about both leaders wanting to show that they have successfully managed the other side. Let's talk about AI, one of the big issues. Do you think there's any appetite on either side for some sort of agreement on regulation? There is, but there are huge hurdles here.
9:33Number one, neither side really understands what's going on in frontier AI. Neither government has a handle on this. So when we talk about creating guardrails, what are those guardrails? Are those against non-state actors, terrorists? It is against each other. Is it dealing with criminals? There are a whole lot of questions about what we're guarding against here. Secondly, neither side's bureaucracy is set up for this. Both governments don't really have people who know this. The people who know this are in private industry, not in central government authorities. So it's very difficult to see how this can move ahead rapidly.
10:14It's a first step forward in dialogue, but certainly there is a long road. There is no trust factor here. If they're going to come to agreements, it is only because it's in both national security interests, not because they see eye to eye on these issues. What about trade? There is an uneasy truce on trade at the moment. I just wonder whether China's squeeze on rare earth elements, its ability to cut off the supply of those to the US means that the US doesn't at the moment have much leverage when it comes to trade if it wanted to exert any leverage. Well, my understanding is the trade truce will be extended but only by six months because the U.S.
10:57side doesn't feel China has lived up to the agreement, particularly on rare earths. For example, American defense firms still don't get licenses for rare earths. And indeed, the Japanese have no licenses for rare earths right now. So the U.S. is complaining that China needs to open this up, that it's critical to the United States. And until that happens, I think our trade truce will remain very short term. Has it also had another impact on the Trump administration? Do you think the fact that China does hold this card means that it's quietened those voices in the administration, the more hawkish voices in the administration?
11:40Well, I think in general, Secretary Besant, who leads, is pro-business, pro-dealing with Beijing, and Trump is listening to him. So I think that, yes, the rare earths China showed the ability to hit back in a way no other country did against Trump. I think, frankly, that's part of why Trump respects Xi, because he's as good a boxer as Trump is. Both of them can land punches on each other, but no one has a knockout punch. It's more like a relatively even fight. We've got to talk about Taiwan, always a potential flashpoint. China, I imagine, wants the U.S. to pause arms sales as a new package that I think has been approved by Congress, but that could go through.
12:29Do you think President Trump would agree to that? I think the Chinese have made it very clear to Trump that this is a red line. One of the things to look for in this summit is whether Trump agrees to go to Shenzhen for the APEC meetings and Xi agrees to come to the United States later this year to Miami for the G20 meetings. I think if that agreement is made, Trump is going to kick this can down the road again. Dennis, can I just ask you this finally? I mean, there are some huge challenges facing the world at the moment. I mean, we haven't even talked about climate change. I mean, are either of these leaders the right leaders to be dealing with those challenges and dealing with them together?
13:15Or is that never going to happen given the dynamic between the two countries? I am optimistic on AI because both countries are scared. These frontier technologies could be a danger to humanity. Well, that is a shared interest. I would look to AI as the one common ground that is reasonable to expect forward progress in. That was former U.S. National Security Council advisor and China expert Dennis Wilder there. We will, of course, have full coverage of the summit over the next couple of days between President Xi and Trump here on the BBC World Service and, of course, on our website, bbc.com forward slash news.
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14:09Still to come, the six-year-old who smashed the women's world record for solving a Rubik's Cube. What is the secret? It's like a magician, you know, like when you see a sleight of hand, when you see a magician manipulate cards, they are amazing you. Your mind is completely blown. It looks natural, but it took years and years to practice. Speed cubing is the same. You need to be possessed somehow by the cube. Possessed by the cube. That's coming up in half an hour. Our main headlines from the newsroom at the moment. Fighting has broken out in Ethiopia between government and Tigrayan regional forces, raising fears of another conflict.
14:46We'll be talking about that in just a moment. And a former militia leader from the Central African Republic has been convicted of crimes against humanity by the International Criminal Court.
15:06This is James Menendez with NewsHour live from the BBC. Well, there are growing fears of a return to all-out conflict between the government of Ethiopia and rebel fighters from the northern region of Tigray. The two sides fought a devastating civil war at the beginning of the decade, which cost the lives of more than half a million people. at about double that number, are still displaced, despite a peace agreement that was struck back in 2022. Well, let's speak to the BBC's Kalkidan Yibeltal, the BBC's former correspondent in Ethiopia, who joins us live on the live from Nairobi. Kalkidan, good to have you on the programme.
15:45Where are we today? What's been happening? Well, it's been a day that's been filled with quite significant developments and escalations. First, we've heard that the flights have been suspended to all the major airports in the Tigray region. The main flight carrier Ethiopian Airlines said that they are suspending their operations there indefinitely due to what's going on there. And then we've heard that the Grand Forces have captured the main airport in the region's capital, Makale. And then they have replaced the federal forces who used to be there. And then after that, a little, you know, a little later than that, there comes reports that the Grand Forces are announcing they're engaged and they have ordered their troops to engage in combat against the federal forces after accusing the federal forces of launching an invasion.
16:34So it seems that things have been, you know, dramatically changing throughout today. And this comes in the backdrop of deteriorating relationships and increasing tensions in the past few days. And it was just three days ago that the Grand Forces, together with other six armed groups in Ethiopia, announced that they're forming a new alliance aimed at toppling the government, the central government. And it seems that all these fears that have been alarmed, all these alarms that have been sounded over the past few months, that Ethiopia might be sliding back to full civil war, are, you know, showing this, are leading up to this.
17:15Yeah, I mean, remind us what the Tigrayan rebels, I mean, what do they want? Well, as you mentioned earlier, the Tigrayan forces and the Ethiopian government have been, that they were engaged in a brutal civil war for two years. And in 2022, there was a peace deal that was signed. And it silenced the guns and then normality to some degree returned to the region. But all the issues have not been returned, resolved. One of these resolves were there are these contested areas that are claimed by Tigran regions and other regions as well that has not been solved. And all these displaced people have not been returned to their places of origin.
17:51And each side were accusing each other of breaching the peace deal. And finally, what they're indicating now is that peace deal might in effect be dead. Yeah, so a real lack of trust between both sides. I mean, is there anyone who can come in and try and bring them back to the negotiating table, do you think? Well, there have been efforts by some of the Western countries, by the US and the African Union. But there hasn't been much success. First, it seems that the International Committee is distracted by quite a number of crises across the world. Even in the whole North Africa, there is a war in Sudan and there are other conflicts in neighboring countries as well.
18:30So there seems to be, you know, attention of the international community is divided to put focused pressure and concentrated pressure on the two parties. We're going to see how they're going to react from, you know, here on words. But so far, all the efforts seem to be half-hearted and we have not seen any success. OK, well, we shall see what happens over the next few days. Kalkidan, thank you very much indeed. That was Kalkidan Yebeltal there.
19:01Now, the man that said, I hate tennis, hate it with a dark and secret passion, is back, playing competitive tennis. Andre Agassi, an eight-time Grand Slam champion, retired 20 years ago and since then has only occasionally dabbled in the sport. But Agassi is immersing himself back in tennis once more. He's in London right now and the BBC's Carthy Ghananasegaram went along to meet him. If you're a tennis fan, you're probably used to the green grass of Wimbledon, the red clay of Roland Garros and maybe a blue hard court. But in front of me, I have a black tennis court. And that's because it's the colour of the tennis tournament, the Labour Cup, which pits Team Europe against Team World.
19:43On court at the moment, we have the seven-time Grand Slam champion Carlos Alcaraz and the new US Open champion Alexander Zverev practising. The world team captain is Andre Agassi, and I've been chatting to him about the current state of tennis and what he's enjoying about being a captain in the Labour Cup. The challenge I enjoy is getting to know what each of these great champions not need. When I say, well, it's not true, it is what they need because they all process differently. They all ask the most of themselves in a different kind of way so that you can help them be the best of themselves without screwing anything up.
20:18And then I also enjoy the opportunity of being some form of North Star for them moving forward so that the ceiling of their high end in their careers is something that they are reassured about. One of the most fascinating parts of your career I know there's you know eight major titles and a gold medal and all the rest of it but going from world number 141 to world number six that period how much do you think that gives you a perspective that that some of these youngsters are really interested in? Obviously I got there before but I got there based out of fear of losing, you know, fear of not winning.
20:52And then I had to start over again, but I knew getting to the top wasn't the answer, but being the best of myself every day was. So it did teach me what to value in order to maximize who you are. And talking about that perspective and how you maximize things, Emma Adekani mentioned recently that she's just been reading your book and how much it's helped her. How do you think she could maximize now, particularly somebody who was very young, similar to you, but has now struggled a little bit with injuries in a different way, I suppose, than you did. That would be the question, right? What is your struggle?
21:22What is your demon? What is your battle? Is it a physical one? Is it a temperamental one? Is it a pressure one? Is it an expectation one? So you'd have to understand where the wrestling match is really happening. And then you'd have to find a way to either address it systematically or you find a way to give context and clarity as to where the value systems need to remain. I think it's a choice of life. I'm going to go about my life a certain way and tennis is just part of it. I think anyone that read your book knows about that struggle, the love-hate relationship. Where are you on that love-hate relationship with tennis?
22:02I'm on the hate-love part of it. So yes, my father was very enthusiastic, and I'm using a very generous term, God rest his soul. I was introduced as a future number one tennis player in the world since I was seven years old. So I had to live up to a lot in my own mind, and it was a pretty lonely journey. With that being said, I self-mutilated myself to 141, and then I came back knowing it's not about the number. It's about being the most of yourself. Even if the most of yourself is 80%, I'm going to get 100 % out of that 80%. And it gave me perspective and it gave me reason above everything. It gave me reason.
22:40I know you've been involved with education. You've obviously had a life to live for the last 20 years. But for tennis fans that have missed you, why did you return now to tennis? And what are you enjoying about being around tennis again? Oh, thanks for asking. I mean, one of the things I promised my wife. Stephanie Garth. Yeah. Just to mention. I promised her a lot of things, including Till Death Do Us Part. was that I would never be too busy or too bored because I'm dangerous. I'm dangerous in both cases. So she knows what pushes my buttons. She knows, like, for example, this week, that as hard as this week is, as long as this week is, that I connect to it and it means something to me so she can smile.
23:17And I have the bandwidth now, right? The kids are older. I'm paying respect to a platform that tennis has given me to build 130 schools across my country back home. I think it's just a lot of reasons to appreciate it now through an older lens. That was Andre Agassi eight-time Grand Slam champion talking there to BBC's Carthig and Anna Segaram about his return to some competitive tennis. You're listening to NewsHour from the BBC World Service. Do stay with us we've got lots more coming up in the second half of the programme
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25:17Chefs use it. Restaurants use it. People who really love food and flavor use it. Whatever you're eating, Kewpie hit. So if you haven't tried Kewpie yet, find the bottle with the red cap and see what everyone's talking about. You'll understand. Kewpie, the original Japanese mayonnaise. This is James Menendez with News Out. To Ghana in West Africa now, where an entrepreneur has found a way to solve two problems at once by turning waste plastic packaging into much-needed school desks. Our reporter Justice Baidu met Makafui Awoku in his workshop in Ghana's capital city, Accra. Welcome to Makintosh Africa.
25:59So let's walk around and let me show you some of them. A big guy with a big smile. Makafui Awoku has an infectious passion for recycling plastic. He shows me his current stockpile. So it's a huge heap of plastic bottles, sachet rubbers that have been collected together. How much plastics do we have here? About 400 kilograms. We generate about 1.1 million metric tons of plastic waste in Ghana every year. In Ghana, it is thought that just around 5 % of plastic is collected for recycling. McAfee's latest project addresses another problem here in Ghana. a shortage of school desks. We have a lot of debt deficit in our schools.
26:48We have a debt deficit of close to 2 million. McAfee makes desktops from the plastic sachets that are commonly used for drinking water here in Ghana. He has 300 drop-off points for the sachets around the country, and he supplements these by buying more that have been gathered by waste pickers. So when the dry shreds come here, we have this heat transfer equipment and then we have hydraulic press that we use to press it. So we set it and then we wait. So this looks to me like a big sandwich making machine but instead of sandwich, this is plastic materials that have been put into this machine and then been pressed together.
27:36Yes, that's close enough. These sandwich machines can create a range of materials from a leather-like fabric to these desk boards that are just like plywood. They are sanded
27:54and drilled to the desk frames. So far, McAfee has supplied 600 desks to 12 schools around the country. They cost about 60 US dollars each. but they are not paid for by the schools but with grants and corporate donations. I travel to a nearby school to see them for myself. So this is a classroom of about 60 pupils and as I enter here I can see McAfee's desk lined up with the students sitting on them and using them. I'm just going to go have a chat. When we are writing exams, you know the wooden decks they are not that smooth for the people So when we are writing, the writing don't look smooth, but they'll find it a good part, so it's really helpful.
28:40The wooden decks, they break easily, but these plastic decks, they don't decay and they don't break easily. They are very hard. Well, I can't resist asking the students to test the strength of the desks. OK, so three, two, one, go!
28:59Thank you. And that was the BBC's Justice Baidu reporting there from Accra in Ghana. This is the BBC World Service in London. You're listening to NewsHour and I'm James Menendez. Now, remember the time not long ago when all we were talking about was Greenland, a threat by the Trump administration to annex or even invade this snowbound territory of Denmark that sparked a profound crisis in transatlantic relations and indeed the NATO alliance. That was only nine months ago, but on Tuesday, the leaders of Denmark, the US and Greenland all signed an agreement that looks like it settles the matter once and for all.
29:36A new defence deal, or rather an update to an old deal from the 1950s, that allows the US to develop two new military bases there while underscoring Denmark's sovereignty. A win-win-win, said Greenland's Prime Minister. And the Danish Prime Minister, Mette Frederiksen, had this to say about the agreement.
29:58Look, I've been involved in making many political deals over the years, but I haven't made many as consequential as this one, I'll freely admit. What characterises a good deal is, of course, that it resonates with all parties. And from the perspective of the Danish Commonwealth and of Europe, it is crucial that we strengthen overall security in our part of the world. and this is also something that the US president cares about. And yes, it has been a long process. A lot has been said. I'm not going to get into all the discussions that we've had but what I will say is that I am absolutely thrilled about this deal.
30:38Well, Minik Rosing is a professor of geology at the University of Copenhagen and a Greenlander himself. What's his view? I think it's really good and is basically explicitating the situation as it de facto has been for a long time. Yeah, so to that extent, I mean, how much has changed? I think not very much, actually. I think there's one major thing that you would see where the US side would like to have some reassurance, that is that in case Greenland gains independence from Denmark, that the military president of the US is still guaranteed and that Greenland will remain within NATO. So I think that is probably the new part that is most important.
31:21I mean, is it also good for Greenland in that the country is now a signatory to this deal? I mean, does that feel like quite a big step? I think it is. And I think that the fact that Greenland and Denmark and the US are signatures on the same level, I think is very important for Greenland anyway. But I think one thing that is interesting also is, of course, that you could also say there are two sides of the table and Greenland and Denmark are sitting on the same side and representing basically the same objective. So I think that's also important for the Kingdom of Denmark. Do you think there's widespread relief now in Greenland that all the uncertainty, I mean, all the worry over the past few months has gone away?
32:02Yeah, I think that all of the worry has probably been taken a bit too far, but there's definitely a relief. When this was pulled out of the public sphere and into diplomatic track, there was a relief already. But this has been allowed to continue and reach a result. I think it's good news for everybody. I mean, one wonders, given the agreement, what was all the fuss about? I think it's really hard to tell what it was about. I think that the American industry has had access to, you know, work on mineral resources in Greenland and has been encouraged to do so for decades from both Greenland and Denmark.
32:36And I think also the military presence has been guaranteed since 1951. So I think that it's difficult to put a finger on exactly what was the objective. Do you think if President Trump had asked Greenlanders and asked Denmark for what is in this agreement and asked them nicely and calmly, then the US would have got it? Absolutely. Absolutely. I have no doubt about that. I don't think it was a hard negotiation. I think it was more that it's a clarification of, again, what the situation was and what the desired situation would be. And everybody pretty much agreed about that. Yeah, I mean, President Trump at one point said he wanted to own Greenland.
33:19I mean, this agreement is quite a long way from that, isn't it? It is. It is. Again, it's one of these things I don't think it's helpful to speculate too much about. So can Greenlanders get on with their lives now? I hope so, yeah. And I think it has definitely been some dents in the trust. And I think also people have been really concerned about this prospect of potential military intervention, but also being colonized over again, I think, has not been very attractive. I think there's been some level of misjudgment from the U.S. side in that I think the Americans thought when they first proposed this that the Greenlanders would be happy to be part of the U.S.
34:01right away. And there's maybe some level of surprise that people actually didn't buy into that idea. That was Greenlander Professor Minnick Rosing. Well, True Horn is a former U.S. Department of Energy and White House official from the first Trump administration. He's the founder and CEO of GreenMet, a critical minerals and financial advisory firm. Drew joins us on the line from West Virginia. Welcome to NewsHour. What does this agreement mean for someone like you? Does it open up the possibility of searching for those critical minerals or does it make it harder? Well, you know, I got to say, I think it's a phenomenal deal for all parties And it absolutely accelerates and helps our projects and desire to develop and build sustainable growth here between the countries and with the right resources.
34:49So, you know, we're in a position where we already have a large rare earth critical minerals mine that we're working to bring in U.S. and European and Greenlandic finance and development companies into, I think, having the deal official and putting to bed some of the drama and the distraction. It's really going to help us fast track growth that I think is going to be really beneficial for all parties, particularly the Greenlanders that I think really want and need this. Well, it's interesting you use words drama and distraction. I mean, was all that drama and distraction worth it? I mean, as we heard there, this deal probably could have been reached, what, back in January or February, couldn't it?
35:29Well, no, it couldn't actually. And a lot of people, what they don't realize is that there was a previous deal that was similar to this, that was presented to the new Greenlandic leadership that was rejected back in the wintertime. And so a lot of people don't understand President Trump's negotiation style. I'm not going to get into all the details of exactly what was said. But those of us that have worked for him publicly in government before, and then as a private advisor and investor looking to support a lot of those policy initiatives with investment and development, we understand it's a process.
36:05And I think that process, though, it was at times a little bit painful. And now there's some hurt feelings on all sides to maybe repair and build past, it was necessary to get us where we're at right now. Is that because Denmark, from your point of view, Denmark and Greenland weren't cooperating? I don't think they realized there was the specifics that we, from the US perspective, were looking for to protect our collective security and to open up from a business perspective, the ability to develop and move forward all of these projects. I can go through the actual language of the agreement, but there's some specific concessions and agreements that are made that are really going to turn on the pipeline for growth that really were not there previously from a US private perspective.
36:57Was it worth threatening to invade Greenland though? There was never, in my opinion, an actual threat to do that. I think there was misunderstandings. President Trump said so. I mean, he threatened to use military force to achieve his objectives, didn't he? Well, I mean, I'm not going to get into too much arguments on the details. I don't think there was ever a legitimate or real threat to use military force. The United States has always been the primary security provider for Greenland and for Denmark, for that matter. And I don't think that was ever in question. I think a lot of comments were taken out of context.
37:34But I think what's important is that we've now gotten to a part where all of the allies can work together, we can get past these misunderstandings, and we can focus on collective growth and security that, frankly, we all benefit from. Thank you very much indeed. That was Drew Horn, who worked in the first Trump administration, founder, now CEO of GreenMet, that critical minerals firm. now here's a story for anyone who's dreamed of rifling through a charity shop and finding a hidden treasure a rare first edition of the american classic to kill a mockingbird has been discovered among a box of donations to a store belonging to the charity auxfam in west london let's talk to the manager there olivia haisman walker olivia welcome to news take us through the story how does it all begin then what a box of books turns up Hi, yeah.
38:27So it's very exciting. Our deputy manager found the book in a box of donations. It was a beautiful antiquarian copy of To Kill a Mockingbird. And when you get a book that's as beloved as that, and that's as old as this copy was, you start to look and see if it's something special. And this copy was. And your colleague, I mean, was it an instant thing? They took a look at it and thought, hold on a second, this is something different. Yeah, absolutely. We're always on the lookout for precious gems like that and people are really generous and sometimes they'll even say oh I think this one might be a bit something a bit special.
39:02Did they in this case? We don't know but we hope that they knew what they had and that they knew that we'd get a fair price for it. I mean was there any clue I'm just so intrigued by this was there any clue in the other books that this was some you know someone who had a high quality collection they were donating or do you think that they overlooked the fact that this was something so rare? Well it was something that had clearly been read and loved. The book jacket itself was a little bit tatty so you can picture it being on somebody's shelf and then ending up in like a donation. They're clearing out their library and yeah it came in with just a lot of other books from the period so possibly was bought originally in 1960 and has been with them ever since.
39:48Yeah I'm just looking at a picture of it and as you say it looks like you know what could easily be mistaken for any slightly sort of worn second-hand book but what about the condition inside how was that it was beautiful yeah pages were unblemished they were tightly bound it was yeah a real special find so it's been passed to the national collection at the British Library did I don't want to break any confidences but I mean did they pay for it and did they pay you? They did yeah they gave us a very generous charitable donation for it. It eventually ended up on our online shop which is open to anybody across the country who wants to browse and buy books and that's where the British Library found it and they got into contact with us and said can we come and have a look at it just verify that it is what we think it is and then they were very happy to purchase it from us.
40:42So it was open for general sale before they spotted it? It was, yeah. First on our shop floor and then on an online shop. Oh, my goodness. I feel like I've missed the trick here. Can I ask you, I mean, are you able to tell us how much they pay for it? I'm not allowed, I'm afraid. Are we talking four figures, five figures? Four figures, yes. Four figures. Has this ever happened to you before, to one of your shops? Yeah, we get gems all the time. I would keep an eye out on the Bonhams auction. That's who Oxam goes to when we have valuable books. In the recent years, we've sold the first translation of the Bible into Chinese at Bonhams.
41:27Last year, we sold a very beautiful edition of The Hobbit. And actually, my shop is really buzzing at the moment because we had a first edition Hobbit that is also going for sale at Bonhams in November. Wow, amazing. Olivia, thank you very much indeed for telling us that. That was manager of that Oxfam charity shop in London, Olivia Hazeman Walker, on uncovering that first edition of To Kill a Mockingbird. You're listening to NewsHour.
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44:04This is James Menendez with NewsHour. Let's head to Morocco now because people there are taking part in parliamentary elections today. Or rather, some people are, because with more than one in three young adults out of work in Morocco, many of them simply haven't bothered registering to vote. That level of unemployment, as well as frustration over the cost of living and access to healthcare, sparked Morocco's own Gen Z demonstrations this time last year. Siham Azarual is an environmental activist who lives in the Atlas region of the country. She's been talking to us about the vote. This is my first time voting ever, because I truly believe that if you don't vote, you don't have the right to criticise the system.
44:45But the thing is, I'm kind of ashamed by our political scene, because it's a complete circus out there. And I'm ashamed that this is the level of politicians that we have. Well, at the end of July this year, about 60 ,000 people, most of them young Moroccans, surged across the border into Spain's North African exclave of Ceuta, in search of better prospects in the European Union. Most have now been sent back. So will this election make any difference? Let's speak to Gregory Holyoke, who covers North Africa for BBC Monitoring. Gregory, a warm welcome to NewsHour. I mean, first of all, is this parliamentary election, I mean, is there a real contest here?
45:24Well, thank you very much for having me, first of all. Yes, there is definitely a competition that's going on and there has been a lot of media speculation in Morocco that we've been looking at of, you know, whether the current governing coalition will be able to maintain power or if this opposition, justice and development Islamist party that was in power until the previous election when its representation really collapsed, about 13 of the almost 400 seats, whether they will be able to take back some power. But, you know, I think as Sihem mentioned there in her interview, one of the main issues here is that a lot of people don't feel like any of the parties are representative of them.
46:12And I think that the recent protests, the Gen Z protests, really exemplified that. And is that because the king still basically wields most of the power in the country? Yeah, I mean, it's not necessarily as simple as that. It's definitely not like Saudi Arabia in terms of its kind of absolute monarchy. And in 2011, you know, following the Arab Spring, which started, you know, in that region, it started in North Africa, in Tunisia. In 2011, there were constitutional reforms because there were protests in Morocco. And that definitely, you know, in an almost sort of Magna Carta-esque style way, puts down some, you know, administrative and governmental reforms that have passed power to Parliament.
47:00That being said, we do see with Morocco, it was one of the only countries in the region whose governing forces, that being the king there, actually survived those uprisings. And he does definitely still, in terms of foreign policy and a lot of domestic policy and kind of financial policy, wield a huge amount of power. Morocco is, however, still under most metrics like the Economist Democracy Index. It's counted as a hybrid regime. It's not counted as a full democracy. But it does generally come out as the kind of most democratic in the Middle East, North African region. Yeah. And just finally, and we've got about 45 seconds left, I mean, we've got to talk about football.
47:41I mean, Morocco has been doing very well at football and is preparing to host the next World Cup. I mean, how unhappy are people about all the money that's been spent on investing in new stadiums and stuff and perhaps not other things? Well, I'm really glad you mentioned that as well, because yes, this is this sort of weird paradox where it's a nation that is so proud of its football and so proud of its footballing achievements and is so proud to hold the FIFA World Cup. But they're less proud to be spending, or at least the population, billions of dollars on it. I actually just saw this image of a woman holding a sign saying, you know, at least the FIFA World Cup stadium will have a first aid kit in reference to the lack of money that they believe is going to social and health services.
48:24Thank you very much indeed. That was Gregory Holyoke, who covers North Africa for BBC Monitoring. now it once took me a whole day with a book to solve a rubik's cube but this week a six-year-old girl from china lian yunji has broken the women's world record for solving a three by three by three puzzle the standard cube in an average time of less than four and a half seconds yeah blink and you'll miss it news hours rebecca kesby has been talking to jessica friedrich she's a pioneering speed cuber as they're known she's been doing it for about 40 years and even invented her own widely copied method.
48:59What does she make of this achievement? It's absolutely mind-boggling. Congratulations to her. She's going to be even better. When you see her, it's like magic. She's doing it so fast. And she's so small, just six years old. It's unbelievable, especially the cubers from China nowadays. They are dominating speed cubing. If you look at the top six cubers, they're all from China. They're all very young. So it's a trend. And it's unbelievable that a A six-year-old girl can do it in 4.27 seconds on average. That is nothing short of a miracle, basically. I mean, apparently she does spend two to three hours a day training on the Rubik's Cube.
49:40Is that something that's normal for a cuber, as you call them? I think she spends a lot more than that. Really? That's my personal guess, yes. Tell me why. Because you become a great speed cuber only if you get possessed by the cube. if it spells the magic all over you and you can't do anything else, basically. So I think two to three hours is an understatement. That's just my personal guess. So what is your advice then on even completing a Rubik's Cube, to be completely honest with you? Because, I mean, obviously she's doing it very fast. I just don't have the patience. I've been sitting with this thing now for half the programme and I still can't do it.
50:20So what would your top tips be? My top tip is to have fun and do it the way you like to do it and that brings you joy. If it brings you joy to try to chase the seconds and become one of the best cubers in the world, then do it. If you just want to be able to solve it or impress friends, do it. If you don't want to do it at all, don't do it. Would there be a trick to it or a system maybe that works? There is no trick to it. It's a lot of work. It's an incredible amount of work, An incredible memorization that you have to be willing to undertake, to memorize probably over a thousand of algorithms to be able to be this fast.
51:02It's like a magician, you know, like when you see a sleight of hand, when you see a magician manipulate cards, they are doing tricks. They are amazing you. Your mind is completely blown because you have no explanation for what's happening. It looks natural, but it took years and years to practice. speed cubing is the same you need to be possessed somehow by the cube you need to feel the inner engine to keep doing it and keep doing it and the motivation to just get faster and faster and faster and that's intangible you either have it or you're done i was a pioneering speed cuber jessica friedrich talking there to my colleague rebecca kesby and that brings us to the end of this edition of news from me and the rest of the team thanks so much for listening i'll be back at the same time tomorrow.
51:50Until then, bye-bye.
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From the publisher
The White House is rolling out the red carpet for a rare state visit by the Chinese leader, Xi Jinping. The two leaders are expected to discuss a number of issues, including the development of artificial intelligence.
Also in the programme: President Trump has signed a new defence agreement with Denmark and Greenland after months of crisis; the rare first edition that turned up at a charity shop in London; and we'll hear from the tennis champion Andre Agassi on getting to the top, despite hating the sport.
[Photo shows US president Donald Trump at the John F. Kennedy International Airport in New York City on 22 September 2026. Credit: Kylie Cooper/Reuters]
