In short
This NewsHour episode covers multiple international stories. Topic: US “economic D-Day” sanctions on Iran; Taliban governance in Afghanistan; UK climate/biodiversity mission tagging Montague’s harriers; Singapore’s birth-rate incentives; Ukraine’s Independence Day amid deep-strike missile plans; Canada-US trade war; EU-China trade tensions; and a UK archaeology finding about a trebuchet strike at Stirling Castle.
Guests
Omid Khazani (LA Times journalist in Tehran); Mahdi Godzi (senior economist, Vienna Institute; Iran Freedom Congress); Kawoon Khamush (BBC Afghanistan reporter); Ginny Buckley (motoring journalist, electrifying.com); Justin Rowlett (BBC climate editor, RSPB bird tagging); Owen Walker (Financial Times correspondent in Singapore); Vladimir Havrylov (retired Ukrainian Major General, former Deputy Defence Minister); David Eby (Premier of British Columbia); Ed Butler (BBC reporter); Maros Sefcevic (EU Commissioner for Trade); Stefania Pigozzi (Italian machine tools trade body); Brad Setzer (US Council on Foreign Relations); Finbar Birmingham (South China Morning Post); Dr Jo Buckbury (University of Bradford). Key claims/examples: Iran sanctions aim to “sever every economic lifeline”; Khazani says no food shortages and subsidies/protectionism cushion impacts; Godzi claims blockade suffocated 70–80% of trade and Iran relies on land routes and China/UAE/Iraq/Turkey. Taliban report: divorce requires husband consent; women restricted under Sharia; spokesman cites rights “within Sharia.” Montague’s harriers: satellite-tagged chick(s) to track juvenile migration; climate change/early harvest risks nests. Singapore: $55,000-equivalent support to age 17. Ukraine: coalition offers blueprints for long-range “Scalp” components; Havrylov argues ballistic range ~800 km needed. Canada: Mark Carney walked away from trade talks over Trump’s 50% tariffs; Eby backs retaliation. EU-China: alleged Chinese subsidies/dumping threaten EU factories; possible trade-war escalation. Trebuchet: Stirling Castle skeleton with 160+ zigzag fractures dated 1255–1405; linked to Edward I’s 1304 “war wolf.”
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Chapters
Tap a time to open that second in VOEconomic D-Day Against Iran
0:55 to 2:08
Overview of the US sanctions on Iran and their implications.
“It's coming to you live from the BBC World Service studios in central London.”
Perspectives from Tehran
2:08 to 4:23
Omid Khazani shares insights on the Iranian economy and public sentiment.
“How does he think people are viewing the threat of an ever tighter economic squeeze?”
Feasibility of US Economic Pressure
4:23 to 8:59
Mahdi Godzi discusses the impact of US sanctions and trade dynamics.
“Obviously, it is going to mean, if not more hardship, then continuing hardship for a lot of people.”
Inside Afghanistan Under Taliban Rule
9:07 to 12:52
A report on the Taliban's governance and its effects on women.
“Five years after the extreme Islamist movement returned to power, the BBC has spent time with senior figures, former insurgents now turn politicians, to see how they're governing a country in crisis.”
Rare Bird Concerns
14:00 to 14:52
Discussion about the rarity of Montague Harriers and conservation challenges.
“I've been told not even to mention the county, because this bird is so rare that if bird spotters knew where it was, they would come here not just in their hundreds, but in their thousands.”
Tesla's Door Handle Recall
14:52 to 19:04
Examination of Tesla's recall of vehicles due to door handle safety issues.
“Tesla is recalling nearly 3 million of its vehicles in China because of safety concerns over their door handles.”
Conservation Efforts for Montague's Harrier
19:04 to 23:40
Report on the breeding success of Montague's Harriers and conservation efforts.
“With good reason, we often read news stories about the threats to biodiversity, about endangered or even extinct species.”
Singapore's Low Birth Rate Initiative
24:34 to 28:00
Discussion on Singapore's financial incentives to boost birth rates amidst demographic challenges.
“Lots of countries are struggling with low birth rates at the moment.”
Ukraine's Current Situation
28:14 to 29:29
Discussion on Ukraine's independence anniversary and current threats from Russia.
“reclaimed its independence from Moscow, from the collapsing Soviet Union.”
International Support for Ukraine
29:29 to 30:45
Exploration of international military support for Ukraine, particularly missile technology.
“This is how the Kremlin spokesman Dmitry Pieskov reacted to that news.”
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The Military Capability Debate
30:45 to 35:07
Interview with General Havrilov about Ukraine's military needs and capabilities.
“Okay, so just to be clear on that, then, you're correcting me, it's not long-range, but it's longer range.”
Domestic Political Challenges in Ukraine
35:07 to 35:49
Discussion on the implications of potential elections in wartime Ukraine.
“First of all, our legislation, Ukrainian legislation, doesn't allow holding any elections during the wartime.”
Trade Tensions with Canada
35:49 to 36:33
Transition to Canada's trade relations and tensions with the US.
“Well, the 24th of August might be Ukraine's Independence Day.”
Canadian Responses to US Trade Actions
36:33 to 40:51
Interview with David Eby about Canada's support for the Prime Minister's trade stance.
“David Eby is the Premier of Canada's westernmost province, British Columbia, and joins me now.”
Shift in European Trade Relations with China
40:51 to 41:27
Introduction to changing perceptions of trade with China among European nations.
“Thank you very much indeed for joining us.”
Challenges for European Manufacturers
41:27 to 42:00
Report on European manufacturers facing challenges due to Chinese trade practices.
“Ed Butler has been looking at the claims of Chinese predatory practices and reports that the tensions could be heading towards an all-out trade war.”
EU Trade Challenges with China
42:00 to 44:17
Explore the unsustainable trade dynamics between China and Europe and their implications.
“The trade as we have it right now between China and Europe is simply unsustainable.”
National Interests vs. European Unity
44:17 to 44:54
Discuss the conflicts between national interests of EU member states and collective European policies regarding China.
“But the question, says Finbar Birmingham of the South China Morning Post, is whether Europe's member states have the appetite to take on China.”
Archaeological Discovery of Trebuchet Victim
44:54 to 47:58
Learn about the archaeological findings of a victim of a trebuchet strike in medieval Scotland.
“For fortresses and castles under siege back in the day, it must have been very dispiriting to see a machine with a huge long arm being manoeuvred into position.”
Identifying Historical Context
47:58 to 48:59
Understand the historical context of the discovered skeleton and its ties to battles at Stirling Castle.
“I mean, presumably he was spared a prolonged death by this.”
Transcript
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0:30And then we'll be learning about Francis Galton and the racist, discredited pseudoscience of eugenics with Desiree Birch. We'll meet many medieval saints in their bone boxes with Rachel Parrott. So if that sounds like your sort of thing, listen to You're Dead to Me wherever you get your podcasts. Thank you. Bye.
0:55Hello and welcome to NewsHour. It's coming to you live from the BBC World Service studios in central London. I'm Tim Franks. And we're beginning with a promise, a promise delivered by the Trump administration, in this case, the Treasury Secretary rather than the President. But even without the capital letters and exclamation marks beloved by Mr Trump, this promise is striking and it's unequivocal. Today, says Scott Besant, begins an economic D-Day, the single greatest financial offensive ever marshalled against an adversary. Mr Besant is talking about a new suite of sanctions against Iran. He might think that there couldn't really be further sanctions left to impose, but this time, this time, he says it really will be different because the US will properly go after any other countries which continue to trade with Iran.
1:48As he puts it, our objective is to sever every economic lifeline that sustains the tyrannical regime. So today we'll try to work out what effect this might have on the regime and on ordinary Iranians, and also whether it's even feasible for the US to do. Omid Khazani is a journalist for the LA Times. He's based in Tehran. How does he think people are viewing the threat of an ever tighter economic squeeze? You know, officially, everything is sanctioned and the economy is quite adapted to this maximum pressure campaign because in the past at least seven years or eight years since 2018, if you might remember, when Trump walked out of the deal overnight, the currency depreciated 60%.
2:43But now I think that the market is not taking it very seriously, though the economy is in shambles. To my evaluation, it is better than what we expected. So just to be clear, although obviously the currency has fallen to record lows and inflation is up, are you saying right now it's not as if people are starving? It's not as if people are worrying where they are going to get their next meal. Not at all. You don't see any food shortages on the chefs in the supermarkets, although some people, at least parts of the society, are struggling, but large numbers of people are getting subsidies and also protectionist economic programmes.
3:32Right. What about industry? Does that then mean that more people are being thrown out of work? It will take some time so you can get a better evaluation of the situation. But since 2018, Iran's economy, it was like under the table economy. You know, official markets have been closed to Iran, even in the neighboring countries like United Arab Emirates. The blockade, of course, will weaken the economy, but it's not going to choke off the economy. And Iran is doing its trade with Russia through the Caspian Sea and also Pakistani border, you know, 7 ,000 miles of border with different countries, and they are not hostile.
4:17I don't think that practically it's going to have a devastating effect. Obviously, it is going to mean, if not more hardship, then continuing hardship for a lot of people. Do you get a sense that people blame principally the United States and the American allies? Or do you think they also reserve some criticism for the regime? You say it's hard to say because apparently I'm based in Tehran and there was a huge city with different districts. But when you talk to people, I think that many people are still positive that in the next few months, it's highly likely that a deal is going to be struck.
5:07They say that Israel and the United States tried two times, but they could not achieve their goals and they could not topple Iran's establishment. So a deal is more likely to happen because there are few alternatives available. Omid Khazani with a view from inside Iran. What about that second question then, the feasibility of this latest US line of attack, especially trying to put the squeeze on Iran's trading partners? Mahdi Godzi is a senior economist at the Vienna Institute for International Economic Studies. He's also a member of the Iran Freedom Congress, a coalition of groups opposed the Islamic Republic.
5:46Mahdi, welcome to NewsHour. Can Iran really be cut off from its trading partners? Hello, good afternoon, Tim. So it's a difficult question to explain all of these things in a few minutes, But the economic blockade, the naval blockade has managed to suffocate about 70 to 80 percent of Iran's total trade. And of course, Iran is a very vast country and it has a very huge land border with many countries. And I think there's a lifeline of economic through these countries, through rail transportation and land transportation. But the major countries that Iran is trading with have been China, United Arab Emirates, Iraq and Turkey.
6:30So they have provided a great lifeline to Iranian economy despite sanctions. For instance, in 2024, the amount of trade was more than 100 billion dollars, about one-fourth of Iran's gross domestic product. So it means that if these countries do not trade with Iran, Iran will have serious issues. And the UAE has signaled that it's planning to really clamp down on its, certainly its role as a sort of financial clearinghouse for Iran. But I mean, if you think about a country such as China, it's difficult to see it wanting to succumb or even, you know, really feeling that it could succumb to US economic pressure.
7:12Well, it depends on the U.S. and the administration, how they continue their negotiations with China, because for China and all of these countries that are named, U.S. is much, much more important and significant than Iran's economy itself. For instance, even United Arab Emirates in 2024, it had 800 billions of trade, and only 30 billions was going and coming from and to Iran. So it means that Iran is less significant for them. So if the United States administration provide them a good compromise for China to reduce maybe tariffs, instead of penalizing them by higher tariffs if they do trade with Iran, I think they could become successful.
7:56And during the naval blockade, I think trade with China has decreased tremendously to about maybe$3 billion, which is, I think it was going through only during the ceasefire and not after that. Very briefly, do you think if it is, in that case, effective, this new squeeze, that it's likely to have the effect, at least in the short term, of emboldening the hardliners who say, you know, look, you have to stand firm against the US and its predations? Or do you think it might actually encourage those who say we have to negotiate with the US? I think now the voices of going for negotiations and making a deal is much, much haired in Iran, especially the President Khatami, who was a reformist, the best, let's say, president of Iran.
8:45He, just a few days ago, he asked for negotiations and continuation of the deal. So I think the situation is the direst situation in Iran's history. And I hope they decide on a logical path, which is negotiations and finding a deal. Mahdi, Godsee, thank you very much indeed for joining us, senior economist at the Vienna Institute for International Economic Studies. The BBC World Service has gained rare access inside Afghanistan under the Taliban. Five years after the extreme Islamist movement returned to power, the BBC has spent time with senior figures, former insurgents now turn politicians, to see how they're governing a country in crisis.
9:23We've also spoken to Afghans living once again under the same hardline rule the group first imposed decades ago. Kawoon Khamush has this report. In Shibirgan, northern Afghanistan, Taliban Governor Abdullah Sarhadi starts his day. Once a Guantanamo Bay detainee, Sarhadi now works for the country's supreme leader, enforcing strict sharia in his region. The BBC has been given rare access to his office to film some of his daily work. as he meets local people who come to him seeking resolutions to various problems.
10:04One case dominates the day, however.
10:09That of an 18-year-old woman who is seeking a divorce from her husband, accusing him of abuse and beatings. She is wearing a full veil and sunglasses. Her clasped hands and black gloves. To protect her identity, we have had someone else voice her words. I'm ready to be executed, but not live with him. The governor tells her she should either continue the marriage or apply for a khula, a form of divorce initiated by the wife, which could mean having to repay her dowry to her husband. Under the Taliban, it is very difficult for a woman to get a divorce without the husband's consent. Despite this, she wants to proceed.
10:52Ask yourself, who would marry me after I get my divorce? You'll have to compromise a lot or you'll lose your dignity and honor. Mr. Governor, my honor and dignity have already been ruined by him. Dismissing her to the next room, the governor discusses the matter with male officials, bodyguards and her husband. Women are mindless. They are deficient in intellect. They don't know a thing. What would you do with a divorced daughter? You can't kill her. You need to marry her with someone else. Would you marry such a girl with your son? The woman's father says they will continue to fight for the separation.
11:36The Taliban's policies today are similar to the hardline interpretation of Islamic religious law they imposed in the 1990s, and those who oppose them have gone into hiding. Especially women who have been erased from public life. When they do fight back, they face harsh crackdowns.
12:01In the week the Taliban came to power, many women took to the streets to protest. Hoda had a successful career and an active life. But now we meet in secret. We have changed her name and voice to protect her safety. Why do you think the Taliban want to restrict women, I ask her. I think the Taliban are scared. They are scared of educated women. They know educated women won't give birth to ignorant beings such as the Taliban. They restrict women so they wouldn't be able to raise wise men, because that would be the end of the Taliban.
12:44Upon returning to power, the Taliban said they had changed. Five years on, it's a country run by men for men. In a lavish press center funded by the Americans for the previous government, we sit down with the public face of the Taliban, their spokesman known as Zabihullah Mujahid. You promised that you will respect human rights. you'll allow women to participate in all aspects of life, work and study. Why did you fail to keep your promise? I mentioned Sharia as a condition. We are committed to women's rights, freedom of speech and other things within Sharia. We must scale everything up according to Sharia.
13:30As an insurgency, the Taliban proved they could survive. The question now is whether they can govern a country in crisis and for how long. And that was Sir Kawum Khamush with that rare report from inside Afghanistan. This is News Air.
13:52Coming up on the programme, the top secret project to monitor Britain's most elusive bird of prey. All I can say is that we're somewhere in England. I've been told not even to mention the county, because this bird is so rare that if bird spotters knew where it was, they would come here not just in their hundreds, but in their thousands. And these birds, these Montague Harriers, already have it really tough. That report on a top-secret mission from our climate editor, Justin Rowlett, will have it in just a few minutes. Our main headline this hour from the BBC Newsroom, the British Prime Minister Andy Burnham on a visit to Kiev has promised to step up support for Ukraine despite what he called outrageous threats from Russia.
14:37We'll be hearing from Ukraine about this promise of new technology for a deep strike missile in 15 minutes.
14:52This is NewsHour, live from the BBC. I'm Tim Franks. Tesla is recalling nearly 3 million of its vehicles in China because of safety concerns over their door handles. Features that are so sleek and difficult to distinguish from the door that they're known as hidden handles. The motoring journalist and founder of the EV advice site electrifying.com, Ginny Buckley, joins me now live. Ginny, very good to have you back on News Hour. What's the problem with these door handles? Hi, Tim. Good to be back. Look, this is a really big recall, as you said, and there are two issues here with these door handles.
15:33So these hidden electronic door handles, they may not work if you lose electricity supply, for example, in an accident. or if the door is damaged. Now, they do all have interior mechanical releases that people can use if there's an accident, but they can be difficult to find. And I think this is the main concern with the Chinese regulators. So China actually has already banned these handles. These regulations come into force in 2027. Both the EU and US safety bodies are currently looking at rules to make them safer as well. So it is a very big story. Okay. So this was a ban that the Chinese authorities announced earlier this year, but that's for cars that are to be sold in future.
16:16But the problem right now, is this with these door handles on the inside or on the outside if there's an accident? Yeah, I mean, it can be both. So if there is, as I said, if there's an electric issue, these are electronic handles and you can't open them from the outside. That can be an issue if the handle is damaged. So what the regulators are concerned about is that the secondary systems, which are mechanical systems inside, aren't perhaps easy enough to spot. So what they're doing, as well as banning them, they've come out with this news today, which is they're recalling them. So as you said, 3 million Teslas are being recalled.
16:51It's 4.3 million cars in total from nine different manufacturers. I think you have to put that into context, though, as well, with the extraordinary size of the Chinese car market. There's 366 million cars on the roads in China. 34 million vehicles were sold there last year. It's also really important to point out that this isn't an electric vehicle problem. It's a design problem. So these electronic and hidden door handles, they predate current EVs. Tesla made them popular, but they've been around way before then. They've been embraced, though, by EV manufacturers because the flush surfaces can reduce serodynamic drag.
17:26Oh, OK. So there is a – I mean, I guess they will have an argument in that case beyond just saying, well, it looks sort of terribly nice and sleek. and clever. So they're saying that it's more fuel efficient. I mean, may I ask, I don't know if you allow yourself to have views on your website, but I mean, do you think that it is one of those things where sometimes, and I hear what you're saying that it's not necessarily just about EVs, it could be more broadly, but there is sometimes a sense of there's a sort of triumph of form over function here. I think you've hit the nail on the head there, Tim, and it's something that we talk about a lot on our team.
18:07You know, people are very divided about them. And I think it does raise the question about the way we're designing modern cars. So yes, there is this quest now increasingly for aerodynamics and anything that's flush surfacing, of course, helps with that. But it goes beyond door handles. You know, we've seen manufacturers regularly replace simple mechanical controls with electronic ones. We've seen functions increasingly moved into touchscreens. I would question do we need to go into a touchscreen menu to press a button to open a glove box. So for me, there's nothing wrong with innovation if it makes a car safer or easier to use or better to drive.
18:43But tech for tech's sake, it can introduce unnecessary challenges. And I do know the CEO of one major manufacturer I was chatting to, the CEO of Volkswagen, who was saying he absolutely loads these pop-out door handles. Every time he gets sent a design with one in, he just sends it back. He doesn't want them. So it's not just divisive with us and with journalists, it's divisive within the industry as well. Jenny Buckley, thank you very much for joining us. With good reason, we often read news stories about the threats to biodiversity, about endangered or even extinct species. But here's a rather cheering tale of Britain's rarest breeding bird.
19:18It's called a Montague's Harrier and it's one of the world's most agile birds of prey. The good news is that this year there are not one but two nests in the UK, both served by the same busy male. The BBC's climate editor, Justin Rowlett, has been given exclusive access as the country's leading bird charity, the RSPB, has gone to work. Easy, easy, easy. Here she is. God, they're beautiful birds, aren't they? Absolutely the best, yeah. RSPB experts are fitting a female Montague's harrier with a tiny satellite tag that sits on her back like a rucksack. She is still a chick with wisps of fluffy baby down amongst her dappled brown feathers.
20:04But you can see the sleek aerial athlete she'll become. Fully grown, she'll weigh barely a third of a kilo, yet her wings will stretch more than a metre. The RSPB's experts want to understand more about the astonishing journey these birds, so desperately rare in the UK, make. So we've come to a top-secret location. All I can say is that we're somewhere in England. I've been told not even to mention the county because this bird is so rare that if bird spotters knew where it was, They would come here not just in their hundreds but in their thousands. And these birds, these Montague harriers, already have it really tough.
20:56As recently as a few years ago, for about a five-year period, none were breeding in the UK. Down from in the 90s, there were as many as 12, 15 breeding pairs. The birds' feeding behaviour is extraordinary. The male is supporting two females and six chicks across two nests, and he can make up to ten food deliveries a day. He swoops in carrying prey in his claws, drops it mid-air, and the female twists beneath him to snatch it as it falls. This isn't the first time the RSPB has encountered the male bird, says Mark Thomas, who is head of investigations at the charity. The male here is an incredibly special bird.
21:40So this was ringed as a chick in Wiltshire in 2016. I was present when that bird was ringed. And he's come back this year. He spent 10 days displaying like crazy in the sky at several thousand feet and amazingly attracted two female Montague's Harriers. But feeding two families isn't his only challenge, Thomas says. Montague's Harriers nest on the ground, hidden among the crops. and climate change is bringing harvests forward. This is a species right on the brink and climate change is not helping that. And the reason it's not helping it is the harvest here, for example, this year, was like a month earlier than in previous years.
22:17So it almost puts any Montague's harrier nest at the perils of inadvertently being destroyed by farm machinery. If the nests aren't found, the chicks would be killed by the combines. The farmers here have fenced the nests off until the young can fly, but surviving the harvest is just the first hurdle, which is where that satellite tag comes in. So that one's just the rear strap that goes down the back of the flank. Two of the chicks are getting them because soon they will be leaving Britain. That's a solar cell there, so that's basically beaming as we speak. And crucially, what is it going to tell us?
22:54It'll tell us where she goes, how she disperses, how long she lives, where she winters, where she'll return to breed. We know adult birds migrate thousands of miles to West Africa but much less is known about the young birds, says Thomas We just don't know what happens to juvenile Montegoose harriers It allows for the first time ever to work out where they're going what migration route and how long they'll spend there and will they come back to the UK in the first year or the second year and all of that information is the bit that's missing from the jigsaw Within weeks, these juvenile birds will be heading south And now, for the first time, the RSPB will be able to follow two of them into the unknown.
23:40And that was Justin Rowlatt reporting on good news for Britain's rarest breeding birds. This is News Hour.
23:55Hello, Greg Jenner here. I'm the host of You're Dead to Me, the BBC comedy show that takes history seriously. Every episode, I pair up a top historian with a fantastic comedian, and we have a lovely, funny, fascinating chat about a different subject from world history. And in this new series, we're beginning with an epic voyage through the story of Homer, the Iliad, and the Odyssey. And that's with Kyle Smith-Bino joining us. And then we'll be learning about Francis Galton and the racist, discredited pseudoscience of eugenics with Desiree Birch. We'll meet many medieval saints in their bone boxes with Rachel Parrott.
24:28So if that sounds like your sort of thing, listen to You're Dead to Me wherever you get your podcasts. Thank you. Bye.
24:39Welcome back to News Hour. Lots of countries are struggling with low birth rates at the moment. Singapore has just announced its biggest inducement yet to parents to have more kids. The government said that each Singaporean child would now be eligible to get the equivalent of 55 ,000 US dollars worth of direct assistance until the age of 17. Owen Walker is the Financial Times' correspondent in Singapore. How big a deal is this? It's a fair amount of money, but it's not all new money. This is actually the total package and it's kind of building on measures the government already provides to families.
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25:14So it's a fairly significant amount, but Singapore is a very high-costing place to live. So$55 ,000 is a lot, but it doesn't go an awful way far in this country. Right. So is the idea that it's just going to be a cash payment, or is it going to be done in terms of targeted subsidies for things like housing and childcare and that sort of thing? Yeah, this is basically a package of several payment handouts really that will be given to the parents of children from birth up to the age of 17. So when they're born, as an example, there is an initial payment of about 8 ,000 US dollars. And there's several payments that go through up to age 17 when they get a similar payment of about 8 ,000 US dollars, which goes towards their further education.
26:09And in terms of how far Singapore is struggling with a low birth rate, I mean, is it one of those things that people say? I mean, you hear young people discuss openly that, you know, maybe they would consider having kids, but they just don't quite think that they can afford it. Or if they are going to have kids, maybe they'll, you know, it'll just be one kid. Is this something that is spoken about? Yeah, I mean, Singapore is a society with very high levels of education. And inevitably, when you get higher levels of education, especially with women, people tend to put off having children until a bit later in their lives.
26:53Maybe they want to get more financial security. And that's certainly the situation in Singapore. You have, you know, young men and women looking to get into the housing ladder, looking to build up their careers before they have children. And so the age at which people are having their first children is getting later and later. One of the ways in which countries can sometimes deal with falling birth rates is to be more relaxed about the idea of immigration, about getting people in from outside who maybe bring families with them or at least can contribute and pay taxes. what's the feeling in Singapore about that about how to strike the balance there?
27:36Yes Singapore has basically had a history of being very pro-immigration so it's always invited people from all over the world and actually you know if you think about the demographic almost everyone in Singapore either they themselves their parents their grandparents or their great-grandparents came from somewhere else in the world. And that was Owen Walker the Financial Times' Singapore correspondent.
28:09You're with NewsHour. It's live from the BBC in London. I'm Tim Frax. On this day, the 24th of August, 35 years ago, Ukraine declared its independence, reclaimed its independence from Moscow, from the collapsing Soviet Union. Today, of course its future as a sovereign intact country is again under threat from Moscow. Hence the solemnity and the emotion on display at the ceremony today in Kiev.
28:42Amid today's choreography and pageantry there's also been a sense from those who watched the war closely that we are potentially at a pivotal moment. The front lines may not be shifting much may not have shifted much for some time now. But both Ukraine and Russia are throwing damaging punches deep inside each other's territory, albeit with different levels of firepower. Russia has a self-replenishing stock of cruise and ballistic missiles, against which Ukraine has its very effective long-range drones, which nonetheless carry a much smaller payload. So how much difference will today's offer from international allies of Ukraine make?
29:18Chaired by Britain's Prime Minister Andy Burnham, this coalition has offered to hand over the blueprints to let Ukraine build the components for the long-range scalp missile. This is how the Kremlin spokesman Dmitry Pieskov reacted to that news.
29:37Britain is participating in this war on the side of the Kiev regime. Britain methodically and regularly pours fuel on the fire and plots to prevent any progress in the peace process. To which the British Prime Minister Andy Burnham in Kiev today said he wouldn't let Russian rhetoric deter his support. Despite Russia's outrageous threats to my country, we will continue our support for Ukraine's defence. I know you need more help to protect your skies and your civilians. I know how hard the winters have been and the need to be ready this year when the knights draw in. That's why later today I will take up the reins of the Coalition of the Willing alongside President Macron and Chancellor Mertz.
30:32Andy Burnham in Kiev today. Vladimir Habrylov is a retired Major General and the former Ukrainian Deputy Minister of Defence. He currently works with the Atlantic Council think tank and advises the Ukrainian defence industry. um general havrilov very good to have you on the program uh how much difference in the first instance do you think these um these new cruise missiles these scout missiles might make first of all we have been using this capability which originally was from united kingdom and then from france it's storm shadow and scalp we started to use them in 23 as a medium medium strike capability to reach Russian targets in occupied territory and later we started to use it against Russian targets in the nearby regions of Russia next to our border with very high efficiency that's why it's not long-range capability which we really need in this stage of the war but nevertheless it's very effective to target and to destroy Russian launching ballistic equipment.
31:41Okay, so just to be clear on that, then, you're correcting me, it's not long-range, but it's longer range. Are you saying that what you really need is properly long-range, in other words, ballistic missile capability? Yes, for us, it's very important to have a long-range capability, which can be provided only by ballistic missiles and long-range drones and cruise missiles. Because of the limited access of Ukraine to the ballistic capability, we have developed our own program here and we expect to deploy it this autumn. But to reach targets somewhere in the area of Moscow, you need to have a range around 800 kilometers, which is only ballistic can provide together with drones.
32:32Scalp is important to target Russian launching sites, which they use for launching ballistic against Ukraine, and it would be very effective as well. Yeah, I mean, I guess it comes with some risk, though, doesn't it? Because already, I mean, we know that Russia can produce more than 100 ballistic missiles a month, and, you know, Ukraine is running short if it's not run out altogether. of the interceptor missiles that it needs to protect itself. Were you to start using ballistic missiles in number against Russia, you could see an even further escalation from Russia, which would be very difficult to defend against.
33:15Ballistic missile capability from Ukrainian side could be a kind of game changer in this conflict because Russia never faced this kind of ballistic challenge in this war. So the immediate next time if we deploy this missile and use it for the first time somewhere close to Moscow to destroy some refinery or defense industry enterprise, they will start thinking differently in Russia. But what about my point that actually it could cause Russia to lash out even more fiercely against your population? They are limited with escalation of this war. Really? Yes. They have a limited production capacity.
34:06They have a limited economy. They have limited even the manpower just to sustain this kind of war. That's why it is because of the sanctions, because of the other things, and because of the Ukrainian long-range deep strike Air Force we started this year in 2026. We couldn't reach the deep targets in Russia in 25-24 because we lacked that capability. Now we have it as a drone based and a cruise missile based of domestic design. That's why this capability will be on the rise inevitably. Can I just ask you in the short time that we've got left to us just very briefly the other sort of big development that lots of people are talking about is what the fired defense minister, Mikhail Fedorov, had, or he's no longer imposed, of course, saying that Russia, forgive me, Ukraine needs new elections right now.
35:06What do you think about that? First of all, our legislation, Ukrainian legislation, doesn't allow holding any elections during the wartime. Of course, it's possible to change the legislation given the constitutional majority in the parliament, but it's not easy to achieve, not realistically to achieve. Do you think it should be achieved? No, it could be achieved because it's a mixture of different parties with different positions and there is no consensus of the subject at all. Okay. All right. Well, Vladimir, we'll have to leave it there, But very grateful to you for your time, Vladimir Havrilov, former Deputy Defence Minister of Ukraine.
35:49Well, the 24th of August might be Ukraine's Independence Day. According to a prominent Canadian podcaster, the 21st of August last Friday may go down in history, he says, as Canada's Liberation Day. Because that was the day that the Prime Minister, Mark Carney, decided to walk away from the last minute trade talks aimed at defusing President Trump's threat of 50 % import taxes on a whole range of Canadian goods. for his part. President Trump has said the original sin lies with Canada for targeting US farmers with massive tariffs. One thing most people do seem agreed on, this incipient trade war could cause Canada a whole deal of economic pain given how much it exports to the US.
36:30So how much support can the Prime Minister count on? David Eby is the Premier of Canada's westernmost province, British Columbia, and joins me now. Mr Eby, thank you for your time. You're from a different party to Mark Carney. Do you support him? Yes, the Prime Minister has my full support, and not just mine. He has the support of Canadians from coast to coast to coast. Look, we, like our friends and allies in the United States, they've been partners for many, many years with Canadians. But enough is enough. And everybody recognises that if the Prime Minister had signed this agreement, that the President would have just come back for more.
37:08And the only way to respond to a bully is to stand up to him. And there is clearly a bully in the White House and indifferent to the concerns of Americans who will now be paying a 50 % tax on everything from plywood, if they're building a home, cut flowers, if they're getting married, fishing rods, if they like to fish, if they like lifting weights on the ingredients in their protein shakes, or if they're feeding a baby in their baby food. It is bizarre. And so I'm proud of the Prime Minister for standing up to them. I hope that more countries will around the world. And we're settling in for the long haul here.
37:42There will be pain. But at the end of the day, we'll come out stronger the other end. Okay, well, that's interesting, because I can understand the principled argument that you're making. But the idea that this is going to be pain equally shared is, is not really one that you can subscribe to, is it? I mean, yes, it will be tough for some American consumers. But given that Canada exports almost three quarters of its goods to the US. Obviously, your province, British Columbia, has an extremely important export market in the US. Your economy is going to suffer that much more, at least in the first instance, isn't it?
38:17Yeah, absolutely. There's no question that the Americans have the ability to hurt Canadians disproportionate to our ability to hit back. But Canada is no joke when it comes to the United States. We're the number one customer for dozens of U.S. states. For the remainder, we're the number two customer. They're currently entering into negotiations with Mexico as well in relation to what used to be the North American Free Trade Agreement, which is now KUSMA. And I trust that the Mexicans are watching carefully what Canada is doing. There will be an impact in the United States. It won't be proportionate.
38:48But at the end of the day, to have the president say, you know, I'd like Canada to become the 51st state. I'd like Canada to not enter into trade agreements with third countries that I say they shouldn't and so on. I mean, these are attacks on our sovereignty and we just can't stand for that. We're too proud of people. We will continue to be proud Canadians. And if that means necessarily entering into a trade war that we didn't ask for, we don't want, but we are prepared to, then so be it. The prime minister has said he will go dollar for dollar with the US. There are some in Canada who have said, let's go further.
39:24Let's actually, you know, try and squeeze the Americans more by, for example, restricting energy supplies. Is that something that you would back? For us in British Columbia, for our government and I think for many Canadians, everything should be on the table. It's dangerous, though, isn't it, doing that? You could see Alberta, which is a rich province, exports a huge amount of energy to the US. It's got a binding referendum on secession coming up in a couple of months. I mean, this could tip them over, couldn't it? Well, we've seen our fuel prices at the Palm Pier in Canada go up about 40 cents a litre due to the American president's adventurism in the Middle East.
40:06Americans have seen the same. the idea that Americans could cut off energy from Canada and not see massive spikes in their costs, even beyond what they've already seen. I mean, we are so integrated. It's really hard to describe the nature of the integration of the two economies. But it's worked well for generations. And it really does only take one person with a mission to do so, apparently, to destroy all of those generations of goodwill and integration. It seems absurd to me that the president is headed in this direction, especially going into midterms. It's going to hurt Americans. It's going to increase their cost.
40:4150 % taxes are a big deal. And also it's going to hurt Canadians. It's miserable and we're going to support the Canadians that are affected. David Eby, Premier of British Columbia. Thank you very much indeed for joining us. That was David Eby, the Premier of Canada's westernmost province, joining us very early in the morning here on News Air.
41:08This is NewsHour, live from the BBC World Service. Europe's trade deficit with China has doubled over the last five years, reaching a billion dollars a day. Even long-time supporters of China trade, like Germany, are becoming increasingly critical of what they say are unfair subsidies and restricted access to the Chinese market. Ed Butler has been looking at the claims of Chinese predatory practices and reports that the tensions could be heading towards an all-out trade war.
41:39A Chinese factory making and selling robotics. This and other Chinese exports have surged of late, more than twice the pace of other global trade. They've even gained strength since Donald Trump introduced high-level tariffs, restricting China's access to the US market. So as a result, Europe says, it is taking the brunt. The trade as we have it right now between China and Europe is simply unsustainable. Maros Sefcevic is the EU Commissioner for Trade and Economics. I mean, Chinese export increased by 50 % and our export to China decreased by 30%. We are going to fight tooth and nail for every factory, for every job in the European Union.
42:26Take this small machine tools plant in northern Italy. A successful exporter, but one of many now said to be under threat, not least because of the growing barriers to the Chinese market. Stefania Pigozzi is a spokeswoman for the Italian machine tools trade body. China in 2016 represented 80 % of global machine tool export. This became 23 % last year, OK? And China becoming the first export country in the world. So this number reflects very clearly we have a problem of competition. Why a problem, though? I mean, that is competition. That's what happens everywhere. Why is it unfair? OK, according to us, Chinese companies receive very important government grants to produce.
43:23And in this way, they can compete on the basis of lower price. The precise level of these subsidies is hard to prove. But taking the example of another industry, solar panels, Brad Setzer of the US Council of Foreign Relations reckons there's been so much state support that many Chinese manufacturers are simply dumping products at a loss on the European market. Solar panels are being sold at best at cost and sometimes probably below cost. How did that come about? Local banks were willing to invest in those companies, lend to them. local governments were willing to build factories. The goal was not profits.
44:03The goal was production. With two years now of trade talks between EU and China seemingly stalled, the mood in Europe appears to be increasingly militant, even if tougher action risks reciprocal trade sanctions. But the question, says Finbar Birmingham of the South China Morning Post, is whether Europe's member states have the appetite to take on China. The problem is that the national interest often runs up against what the European Commission would see to be the European interest. So if you're Pedro Sanchez, the Prime Minister of Spain, and you see Chinese coming in with huge investments to create Spanish jobs, maybe from a European security perspective, this is not seen as ideal.
44:42But from the Spanish perspective, maybe it's a thousand jobs. Whatever they do, they're going to incur some sort of blowback. And that was Finbar, Birmingham, from the South China Morning Post, ending that report by Ed Butler. For fortresses and castles under siege back in the day, it must have been very dispiriting to see a machine with a huge long arm being manoeuvred into position. This was a trebuchet where a huge counterweight would be winched into place and then released, which would then in turn swing the arm that could hurl a huge rock. The idea was that this fearsome weapon could smash defensive walls, allowing your soldiers to pour in.
45:18Now researchers reckon they may have just identified the first known victim, at least first known in the UK, of a direct strike by the trebuchet. The discovery was made by Dr Jo Buckbury, a reader in biological archaeology at the University of Bradford in northern England. Dr Buckbury, welcome to NewsHour. Where were you looking and what did you find? So I was asked by Historic Environment Scotland to look at a group of nine individuals that were dug up at the castle and very early on sterling castle sorry yes sterling castle um and very early on it was apparent that a number of these had evidence of injuries that happened around the time of death um but the one that intrigued me most was known as skeleton 150 he was a youngish man he was in his 20s to early 30s when he died with over 160 fractures across his body.
46:15Oh my goodness. And why, I mean, other than that sounds incredibly painful and probably quite instantaneous when it comes to his death, what was it that interested you about his injuries? It was the shape of the fracture. So normally when bone breaks, it follows the grain of the bone. So it's a bit like splitting wood. But in this case, the breaks of the bone were enormous zigzags across the surface, which is really unusual. and I'd never seen anything like this before in my work as an archaeologist. So I talked to a lot of forensic specialists as well and very early on it became apparent that these are due to very high velocity injuries and nowadays we tend to see these in relation to car accidents, people who've been hit by a train, somebody who's fallen 20 plus metres with nothing interrupting their fall.
47:03So much greater forces than you would expect to see in the medieval period. OK. And you are confident that, I mean, you say a 20 metre fall. I mean, that this was caused by a large rock coming at very high velocity towards him rather than him just sort of tipping over the edge of the battlements. Yeah I mean if he'd fallen off Stirling Castle and it is on a nice rocky outcrop you know because of the shape of the walls which generally stick out a little bit more at the bottom and then the rock underneath it would have been a relatively short fall and you would bounce multiple times and each time the object hits something it slows the velocity down so it was definitely one of the hypotheses I considered but I'm pretty certain this is a major impact a single major impact across the back of this individual.
47:54So the back of his head, both shoulders, whole of his back. Right. Terribly unlucky. I mean, presumably he was spared a prolonged death by this. Absolutely. These injuries are entirely consistent with an instantaneous death, which is incredibly, I'm so thankful for that. Yeah, indeed. Well, dare I say it, he probably was as well. Anyway, more importantly, have you been able to date this? Do you know what battle this might have been? OK, so we have a radiocarbon date for him and these come with a level of uncertainty. But my colleague, Dr Cathy Batt, has done some work on that. And we know he died between 1255 and 1405.
48:32And we know that during that period, Stirling Castle was besieged four times. So with 1299, 1304, 1314 and 1337. But not all of these necessarily involved siege engines. but the one that jumps out at us is 1304 when we know that Edward I used multiple siege engines and one of those was specifically described, the war wolf, which was the largest trebuchet built at that time and very, very fearful. Dr Buckbury, we'll have to leave it there but the war wolf takes us to the end.
49:11Hello, Greg Jenner here. I'm the host of You're Dead to Me, the BBC comedy show that takes history seriously. Every episode, I pair up a top historian with a fantastic comedian, and we have a lovely, funny, fascinating chat about a different subject from world history. And in this new series, we're beginning with an epic voyage through the story of Homer, the Iliad, and the Odyssey. And that's with Kyle Smith-Bino joining us. And then we'll be learning about Francis Galton and the racist, discredited pseudoscience of eugenics with Desiree Birch. We'll meet many medieval saints in their bone boxes with Rachel Paris.
49:44So if that sounds like your sort of thing, listen to You're Dead to Me wherever you get your podcasts. Thank you. Bye.
From the publisher
The US treasury secretary has threatened Iran with "the single greatest financial offensive ever", claiming the US-Israel war with Iran was "entering its endgame".
Scott Bessent said the US would sever all economic ties with the country in "an economic D-Day" and that any nation partnering with Iran financially would also be isolated. Will it work?
Also in the programme: A blueprint for new weapons for Ukraine; the Taliban answers questions about its treatment of women; and the rare British bird on the rise.
(Photo shows US Secretary of Treasury Scott Bessent speaks to reporters in Washington, DC, USA on 20 August 2026. Credit: Shawn Thew/EPA)
