Donald Trump, FBI Informant on Epstein "Hoax"?

8 Sep 2025 · 12 min · 5 chapters

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In short

The episode argues that claims Trump was involved in or covered up the Jeffrey Epstein/Ghislaine Maxwell scandal are misrepresented, calling it a “Democrat hoax,” while asserting Mar-a-Lago functioned as an “original Epstein Island” where underage girls were taken. It also claims Washington is withholding “Epstein files” and questions whether democracy is compromised by blackmail networks.

Guest backgrounds

No named guests appear in the transcript; it’s presented as host commentary by Jesse Edwards.

Key claims

Trump was horrified by Epstein rumors, kicked him out of Mar-a-Lago, and Epstein was an FBI informant; House Speaker Mike Johnson walked back a statement about Trump being an informant; Trump’s “spa or not spa” remarks imply selective knowledge; both parties are complicit.

Notable examples

Virginia Giuffre; Johnson’s clarification citing a victim’s attorney; Trump’s Air Force One audio about spa staff being taken; references to Thomas Massey and Marjorie Taylor Greene siding with survivors.

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Trump's Hoax Discussion

0:46 to 1:49

The host discusses Trump's claims about the Epstein allegations being a hoax.

“jesse edwards this is a democrat hoax that never ends trump called it a hoax yesterday what trump is referring to is the hoax that the democrats are using to try to attack him he has never said or suggested or implied.”

Speaker Johnson's Controversial Claim

1:49 to 3:25

Analysis of Speaker Johnson's statement about Trump being an FBI informant.

“According to Johnson's office, the speaker was simply reiterating what the victim's attorney had said over a decade ago, meaning that Trump was the only one willing to help prosecutors expose Epstein.”

Mar-a-Lago's Involvement in Epstein Scandal

3:25 to 5:30

Exploring Mar-a-Lago's alleged role in Epstein's operations and Trump's response.

“Sure, let's go back and listen to Trump try to explain it a few weeks back on board Air Force One.”

Trump's Accountability and Political Complicity

5:38 to 10:55

Discussion on Trump's accountability regarding Epstein and broader political implications.

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Call to Action for Political Awareness

10:55 to 12:55

Final thoughts on the need for political awareness and the potential fallout of the Epstein scandal.

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0:28Insurance isn't one size fits all. you're listening to newsweek radio irreverent news talk and opinion without agenda from the 72nd floor of one world trade center in lower manhattan this is newsweek radio with your host jesse edwards this is a democrat hoax that never ends trump called it a hoax yesterday what trump is referring to is the hoax that the democrats are using to try to attack him he has never said or suggested or implied. I've talked to him about this many times, many times. He is horrified. It's been misrepresented. He's not saying that what Epstein did is a hoax. It's a terrible, unspeakable evil.

1:13He believes that himself. When he first heard the rumor, he kicked him out of Mar-a-Lago. He was an FBI informant to try to take this stuff down. Of course, you've probably already heard this soundbite from last week of House Speaker Mike Johnson suggesting that Trump became an FBI informant when he learned that Jeffrey Epstein and Ghislaine Maxwell had poached at least three presumably underage girls from Mar-a-Lago. One of those underage girls Trump himself confirming was Virginia Giuffre. Well, Speaker Mike Johnson is already walking that statement back. First headline in Newsweek, Mike Johnson clarifies comment about Trump being FBI informant.

1:46Yes, you can actually hear Speaker Johnson backing up like a FedEx truck over this one. According to Johnson's office, the speaker was simply reiterating what the victim's attorney had said over a decade ago, meaning that Trump was the only one willing to help prosecutors expose Epstein. Yeah, that doesn't pass the out loud test. In other words, Speaker Johnson was speaking out of his posterior. And since this administration has gone to great lengths to keep the public in the dark over this, we're only left with our own speculation to keep us company. And with that in mind, it sure seems to a growing chorus of us that Mar-a-Lago was the original Epstein Island.

2:23I mean, why else would you have underage girls like Virginia Jufri working at the spa in Mar-a-Lago surrounded by powerful, naked, billionaire men getting rubbed downs unless Mar-a-Lago was the original Epstein Island? Why else would you look the other way the first time and the second time Epstein and Maxwell stole girls from your resort? Unless Mar-a-Lago was the original Epstein Island. Why didn't anybody in Trump's orbit sound the alarm back then? Why didn't law enforcement treat it as the scandal that it clearly was, unless Mar-a-Lago was the original Epstein Island? The only reason I bring this back up is because Speaker Johnson started flapping his gums about Trump being an FBI informant, only to walk back his statement just a few days later.

3:09The fact of the matter is that Trump has already admitted that Mar-a-Lago was Epstein and Maxwell's original hunting ground for young girls. I mean, he says that he put an end to it, But I'm not so sure, because otherwise Trump would be talking about it a lot more than he is now, other than to call it a Democrat hoax. This is a Democrat hoax. Sure, let's go back and listen to Trump try to explain it a few weeks back on board Air Force One. People that work in the spa, I have a great spa, one of the best spas in the world at Mar-a-Lago. And people were taken out of the spa, hired by him. In other words, gone.

3:42And other people would come and complain, this guy is taking people from the spa. I didn't know that. And then when I heard about it, I told him, I said, listen, we don't want you taking our people, whether it was spa or not spa. I don't want him taking people. Wait, stop right there for just a second, because I've heard this audio like 30 times now, and I'm just now catching this part from Trump. Why on earth would he say that? I can't believe I'm just now noticing this. Play it again. Why would Trump mention this distinction between spa or no spa? We don't want you taking our people, whether it was spa or not spa.

4:14I don't want him taking people. Am I reading too much into this, or is Trump showing his hand here a little? Because this implies to me that there might have been some difference between spa girls and other girls at Mar-a-Lago at the time. Why the differentiator there? To spa or not to spa? Is that really the question? Whether it was spa or not spa, I don't want him taking people. And he was fine, and then not too long after that, he did it again, and I said, out of here. Mr. President, did one of those stolen, you know, persons, does that include Virginia Jeffrey? Uh, I don't know. I think she worked at the spa.

4:55I think so. I think that was one of the people. He stole her. Why did Trump allow underage girls to be in the spa at Mar-a-Lago? Unfortunately, we can only speculate because Trump wants us all kept in the dark about Insurance isn't one size fits all. That's why customers have enjoyed Progressive's Name Your Price tool for years now. With the Name Your Price tool, you tell them what you want to pay, and they'll show you options that fit your budget. So whether you're picking out your first policy or just looking for something that works better for you and your family, they make it easy to see your options.

5:30Visit Progressive.com. Find a rate that works for you with the Name Your Price tool. Progressive Casualty Insurance Company and Affiliates. Price and coverage match limited by state law. He makes a campaign promise to release the files. Would you declassify the Epstein files? Yeah. Only to be elected to hand over information that everyone paying attention already had. It's sitting on my desk right now to review. To calling it a hoax. This is a Democrat hoax. To floating the idea that he was somehow an FBI informant. He was an FBI informant. To quietly threatening representatives like Thomas Massey and even Marjorie Taylor Greene for daring to side with the survivors, and the rest of the country for that matter, who are demanding to see the files.

6:12Do you remember when he called you conservatives who are worried about this stupid? It's all been a big hoax. It's perpetrated by the Democrats. And some stupid Republicans and foolish Republicans fall into the net. And so they try and do the Democrats' work. Oh yeah, and now he's sending armed troops into our major cities like he's planning to go to war with the United States over this. Just the optics from my perspective. Yours might differ. But what did you expect from an incompetent Nepo baby boomer with a penchant for prostitutes. My, how far the evangelicals have fallen to worship at the feet of this spray-painted golden calf monstrosity of a human being.

6:47A lot of folks on the right are asking themselves, why didn't the Democrats use this as ammunition against Trump in the last election? Well, let me answer that one for my friends on the right in a way they'll understand. Because the left is just as complicit, corrupt, and incompetent as the current administration. I'll say that again. The Biden administration was just as complicit, corrupt, and incompetent over this issue as the Trump administration. Yeah, I'm a big time both sides suck in politics kind of libertarian because both sides are absolutely horrible and politicians are not your friends.

7:18You do realize that a lot of them, if not most of them, are lawyers, right? That needs to mean something in America again, dammit. To tell you the truth, I for one am ready and willing to hand over our representative government to artificial intelligence at this point. I mean, why not? Is chat GPT at risk of being compromised by an unseen foreign power because it was caught in some sort of honeypot trap on film with a bunch of underage girls on a secluded island in Florida? I think not. You know I'm halfway joking here, but this leads to a much larger question than many of us are asking ourselves right now out loud.

7:49And that is, if the highest levels of leadership in Washington are being controlled by people like Jeffrey Epstein, even apparently from beyond the grave, unless he faked his death, do we really even have a real democracy anymore? I mean, sorry, a constitutional republic anymore? If the most powerful people in the country can be blackmailed into submission by unseen forces, that means that our representatives are no longer representing we the people, but the will of whatever unseen foreign power. Is it the Russians, the Israelis, or the Chinese? It's probably all of the above, if I were to guess, because we just don't know.

8:24Because once again, we're being left in the dark, and the only thing we have to keep us company is speculation. And this is why I believe that so many of us have zero faith in our institutions, from government to the private sector, the longer stories like this Epstein scandal fester, the less we believe that the people in power are looking out for the best interests of our nation. Because we the people is absolutely meaningless to the people who are keeping this in the dark with everything they've got in their war chest. Whoever's behind this has taken it so far that even the left wing has now started to believe in all this talk about the deep state and shadow governments.

8:58If we the people aren't calling the shots, then who is? Is it the same people who Jeffrey Epstein was working for? And are those the same people that Trump is now answering to? Outside of the U.S. Capitol last week, some of Epstein's accusers described the abuse they suffered from Epstein and his jailed associate Ghislaine Maxwell. At the event, Brad Edwards, no relation, the attorney representing many of Epstein's victims, accused Trump of doing an about-face after initially supporting the victim's plight. Quote, now it seems like all of a sudden somebody is in his ear, unquote, Edwards said.

9:30I really wonder who that might be that's whispering into Trump's old crusty orange ear canal. I'm a very stable genius. To act far more suspiciously than the moment has called for. The nation asked Donald Trump for help, and he treated it like an interrogation. Why is that? I mean, if Trump were somehow mildly implicated in this as some sort of third party or witness, or if it exposed some sort of shady real estate deal between Trump and some obscure Russian oligarch, the people would get over it. I would get over it. It's such an easy spin, especially for a guy like Trump. And look, I don't like saying positive things about the goon because it makes me feel gross.

10:07But he is a master salesman who can and regularly does put a spin on negative news about himself without even trying. He can do this in his sleep, just not for the Epstein scandal. He can't be bothered with that right now, even though half of his own base and the rest of the country is waiting for him to deliver something other than a giant nothing burger of a document dump. For a small business owner, every day is full of surprises. Some great, some not so great. Like when a client cancels their order at the last minute. But here's a surprise you will like. Progressive provides small business owners with 30 customizable coverage options to help keep their business going strong.

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11:16The list goes on and you get the picture. Otherwise, you wouldn't be listening to me right now. I'm not too sure what happens next. Our fate as a nation now rests in the hands of representatives like Thomas Massey and Rocahanna. Thomas Massey, a Republican, Rocahanna, a Democrat. I think right now are representing the best America has to offer. Because they're appropriately acting out the full due diligence that their roles were designed to carry out. These men are true representatives that give me a rare and welcome sign that all hope is not quite lost yet. I gotta say though, Marjorie Taylor Greene, being on the right side of history on this one is another major WTF because she's always been Trump's happy little troll.

11:53Until this. Even Representative Nancy Mace seems to be turning After that closed-door House Oversight Committee briefing with survivors, she was wiping away tears as she left the meeting. And later said in a statement that she was sweating, hyperventilating, and shaking. Look, the fix is in. The question Trump supporters have got to ask themselves is, will this be enough? Will this be the tipping point when you finally realize that Trump wasn't the great guy you thought he was? You know, he's hiding something here. And you know it's coming out one way or another. And even if it doesn't, somehow, the damage has already been done.

12:25Because you know deep down that he's lying about something just big and bad enough for you to actually care about. Something that's obviously bigger and badder than Trump himself. To those of us in the center and moderate left, we should brace ourselves for the impact and inevitable fallout. Not to point and laugh and say that we told you so to all the soon-to-be newborn never-Trumpers, but to embrace them and to listen to them and to give them the space that it often takes for people to evolve. And until we can do it again, it's Newsweek Radio. I'm Jesse Edwards. Catch you next time. And we say bye-bye.

12:56Newsweek Radio is a member of the Trust Project. Would you declassify the Epstein files? Yeah. It's sitting on my desk right now to review. This is a Democrat hoax. It was an FBI informant.

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