10 Players Making the Leap in 2026 with Brett Kollmann

3 Sep 2026 · 42 min · 20 chapters

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In short

“Making the Leap” for the 2026 NFL season—Brett Kollmann (NFL Pro Show; co-host of Bootleg Football Podcast) and the host pick players/units they expect to jump a level, using specific performance drivers (depth, scheme fit, run-game structure, and development).

Guests

Brett Kollmann, football analyst/content creator. Background mentioned: NFL.com “Making the Leap” written piece (2013), YouTube channel, NFL Pro Show with Trevor Sykema.

Key claims + notable examples

  • Bengals defensive line: more than Trey Hendrickson—depth/rotation with Dexter Lawrence, Boye Mafé, plus Cassius Howell; goal is consistent pressure on 2nd/3rd-and-long.
  • Cardinals DT Walter Nolan: limited snaps but ~17 pressures; heavy-hands win vs Tyler Smith; comp mentioned to Jalen Carter; coach says defense is “different” with him.
  • Chargers RB Omarion Hampton: impact despite bad OL; 30% missed-tackle force; expects 1300+ if healthier with improved line.
  • Texans QB CJ Stroud: leap tied to better run game and more under-center play action; under-center production is much higher than shotgun.
  • Jaguars TE Brenton Strange: more consistent playmaking; contract extension; yards-after-catch and downfield threat.
  • Bears TE Colston Loveland: “quasi No.1” weapon; expects 2nd-team All-Pro level.
  • Eagles EDGE Jalen (Jalx) Hunt: strength/pressure; practice dominance; expects more sack conversion.
  • Raiders WR Trey Tucker: speed + route versatility; expects higher-volume production (possible 1,000+).

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Introduction of Brett Kollmann

2:25 to 2:55

Introduction to guest Brett Kollmann and his background.

“Welcome to NFL Daily, where we've been making the leap since 2013.”

Making the Leap: Historical Context

2:56 to 4:52

Discussion on historical players making a leap in their careers.

“I use copyrighted music, so not a whole lot of ad sense on that channel.”

Bengals Defensive Line Analysis

4:53 to 7:15

Analysis of the Bengals defensive line and player contributions.

“It can be a guy you never heard of making a leap up to solid.”

Walter Nolan's Potential

7:16 to 11:45

Discussion on Walter Nolan's potential impact as a defensive player.

“Allen, obviously, is not the same as what he was a few years ago in his heyday.”

Omarian Hampton's Rise

11:46 to 14:00

Exploration of Omarian Hampton's potential and impact in the NFL.

“Yeah, we're always going to confirm our priors around here.”

Evaluating Unique Athleticism

14:00 to 16:41

Discussion on a player's unique movement abilities compared to previous greats.

“He's not Derrick Henry, I know, but it's just so rare to see anyone that size move like that, that it's just sick looking at this guy in person.”

Insights from Live Training Camps

16:41 to 19:41

How live evaluations at training camps influence quarterback assessments.

“I think, I think, you know, Trey Lance was still there Brock Purdy second year.”

Running Back Running Styles

19:41 to 21:17

Analysis of a running back's style and how it affects his longevity in the league.

“I mean, he is just an absolute physical freak, right?”

Offensive Line Potential

21:17 to 22:48

Discussion on offensive lineman Armand Membu and his potential impact.

“Were you a Membu or a Will Campbell guy going into the draft or both?”

Offensive Line Potential

23:04 to 24:36

Discussion on offensive lineman Armand Membu and his potential impact.

“How do you turn 16 games, injury reports, team notes, betting lines, and matchup trends into one clear weekend preview?”
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C.J. Stroud's Potential Leap

26:16 to 29:36

Analysis of C.J. Stroud's potential improvement based on team dynamics and play style.

“We're going next to Brett Coleman's third pick, making the leap.”

Brenton Strange's Offensive Impact

29:36 to 31:26

Discussing Brenton Strange's role and development as a tight end for the Jaguars.

“The making the leap committee validates it.”

The Jaguars' Offense Transformation

31:26 to 32:50

Analyzing the Jaguars' offensive changes and their implications for players like Strange.

Colston Loveland's Rising Stardom

32:50 to 34:28

Evaluating the potential of Colston Loveland as a key player for the Bears this season.

“Yeah, there was a game against the Colts late in the season where it's yards after catch.”

Jalex Hunt's Impact on the Field

34:28 to 36:25

Delving into Jalex Hunt's performance and potential future impact as an edge rusher.

“That's why three of his last four games, it was six for 94 and a touchdown, 10 for 91 and a touchdown, eight for 137.”

Jalen Phillips' Path to Success

36:25 to 41:38

Discussing Jalen Phillips' development and what he needs to do to excel as a pass rusher.

“But to me, they've already made their choice, him versus Nolan Smith, because he's sort of made it for him.”

Trey Tucker's Role in the Offense

41:38 to 42:02

Exploring Trey Tucker's potential as a key receiver in his team's offensive scheme.

“Are you part of Trey Tucker Island here?”

Analyzing Trey Tucker's Potential

42:02 to 43:36

Explore Trey Tucker's unique skill set and potential impact on the offense.

“Well, first of all, you can't teach that speed.”

Quarterback Dynamics: Kirk Cousins vs. Mendoza

43:36 to 45:24

Discuss the implications of Kirk Cousins' performance on rookie quarterback Mendoza's opportunities.

“I almost think Mendoza, you know, it's gonna, I think Mendoza would be better for him.”

Upcoming NFL Predictions and Show Plans

45:24 to 48:00

Preview the upcoming NFL Daily episodes and predictions for the season.

“I tend to agree with really everything you said there and think it will be a little earlier in the season.”
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2:31Welcome to NFL Daily, where we've been making the leap since 2013. You know who's making the leap this year? It's Brett Coleman. I mean, you know, sure, he's making God knows how much money on that YouTube account in his great podcast. But now he's part of the NFL media family with his NFL Pro Show. What is happening? Brett Coleman, welcome to the show. It's less money than you think. I use copyrighted music, so not a whole lot of ad sense on that channel. Stop. It's all 32. And yeah, check Brett Coleman out on his YouTube channel. He's the co-host of the Bootleg Football Podcast too, which is great.

3:14but if you have enough to spend money on copyrighted music that means you're doing well plus look at the background uh for everyone watching i'm spending on it oh okay i i hear you uh good to know i won't i try not to get you in trouble internet you know that but yeah let's uh let's go over something i've been doing since 2013 i went to go look it was actually a written content piece i did on nfl.com back in the day called making the leap and i thought brett who, yeah, we're welcoming to the NFL media family. The show he's doing is really great. If you're into football, if you love this show and you're a sicko, you are going to love his show with Trevor Sykema, NFL Pro.

3:56And this was kind of a sicko exercise I used to do back in the day because I went 40 deep. And I decided just in the interest of naming some guys, Brett, to go see what the list looked like back in 2013. And in the top 10 that year, we had T.Y. Hilton, Josh Gordon, Chandler Jones, Harrison Smith, and Ryan Tannehill. Five, you know, Tannehill maybe shouldn't have been number one overall. And that was not in exact order, but those are some great, some great players to look back on. Yeah, it was like, what, half decade later, Tannehill led a team to an AFC championship. So like, he got there. He got there.

4:32There were some other names, though. Number two and three on the list are players I barely remember. Bruce Carter of the Cowboys, David Wilson of the Giants. And yeah, there were a lot of misses along the way here. So the exercise, the assignment, and it was partly because I just was really curious what you would say, was to come up with four or five guys you think are going to make the leap this season. It can be a guy you never heard of making a leap up to solid. It could be a solid starter, making his way to superstar. However you wanted to interpret it. I will let you start, Brett. Who do you got?

5:05So I'm going to start with the Bengals defensive line. If you look at what the Bengals D line looked like last year, I mean they basically got no pressure from every from anybody not named Trey Hendrickson he was the only pass rusher that had like even a half decent uh you know pressure percentage and really he was more than half decent he's Trey Hendrickson he's great this year though they're not relying on just one guy to be their winner on second and long third and long right you got Dexter Lawrence who yes he is the one guy but they have more than just him you bring in Boye Mafe they drafted did cash as how like they've just they've they've added to their depth so much over the last two off seasons they have a real defensive line rotation for the first time since probably that 2021 group where you know they they brought in like dj reader and like they had like a whole platoon of defensive linemen and they were a pretty good defense that year wasn't just you know joe throwing go balls to jamar chase so for the first time in a while like they have an actual defense here.

6:06And I think that's what makes the Bengals more dangerous. Yeah, I love that. I love that you immediately zag a little bit off the assignment that you know that you went for an entire defensive line. It's exactly something that I do myself. And I appreciate that and going going big like with a position group. And I heard Zach Taylor say at the podium just this week of like that's where why we feel differently this year more than anything. I'm using my words there in terms of more than anything, but he said our defensive line depth is just different and that's part of the confidence. How confident are you though that let's get into the depth part of it because yeah, let's assume Dexter Lawrence is Dexter Lawrence.

6:49Let's assume Boye Mafé, who's a great piece as part of a good pass rush unit, we know that is who he is. When we get into the Jonathan Allen, Miles Murphy, Shamar Stewart is on their active roster. I thought he was going to maybe put on IR to start the season. And Howell, like BJ Hill, out of those guys, what is your level of confidence? Who do you like there? Where are your concerns? What do you think about the rest of the group after the top guys? Allen, obviously, is not the same as what he was a few years ago in his heyday. But I still think he's a more effective complementary piece than what they've had in recent years there.

7:31Like even if he's just, let's say an average, league average starting three technique, that's still better than what they had. So that in itself is an upgrade. As far as like the true depth pieces, Cassius Howell is a TPR coming off the edge. He really is a fun player. And it's not just because he's kind of the fast, bendy, fluid, you know, lighter pass rusher that a lot of people tend to fall in love with and they do nothing in the NFL. He does have some power to him, right? And he really weaponizes his natural leverage. He is a shorter player. When he gets up and under you and into a tackle's chest, he doesn't look like he packs a punch.

8:05He absolutely does. So I really like Cassius Howell. Do I ever think he's going to be a three-down player? Not necessarily. But if he gives me value on third down or an obvious passing situation like second and long, you just get production there. That's something that they haven't really had outside of Trey Hendrickson. You pair that with Mafia. You pair that with Lawrence. like they could have all four of those guys on the field on second and nine and that's a problem and they just are coming from such a bad place that like just getting average would be awesome and you're right the upside is really high there i loved cassius house tape i've loved to see the reports in cincinnati that he's had a really strong camp he looked good in the preseason when he played so he's like checking a lot of boxes along the way i'm going to start off with the with another defensive line player in this case, Walter Nolan of the Cardinals.

9:00And he's a guy who just didn't get a lot of snaps as a rookie. But man, those snaps were impressive. It's under a couple hundred snaps and even less in terms of the pass rush moves. But man, within those snaps, I think he had about 17 pressures. His snap per pass rush was incredible. He was the best defensive tackle of all the rookies last year, although they struggled as a group. But there were a couple reps. There's one against Tyler Smith. And you said, you know, providing a jolt with Cassius Howell. This is a guy, Walter Nolan, with heavy hands. I know you're a real football guy, Brett. You like to use phrases like heavy hands.

9:39Walter Nolan has heavy hands. And he swipes Tyler Smith. And he wins so fast against him and takes down Dak Prescott. It was actually the first pressure of his entire career. and what a way to get going. And there's a lot of reps like that during his rookie season. And we think a closing speed with cornerbacks, but man, he has closing speed for a defensive tackle because sometimes he's going around the edge like on a stunt or something. And you just do not expect him to get to his target, the quarterback as quickly as he does. But it's impressive. You don't want to just scout on only the best plays, but he had a lot of the best plays in a pretty limited sample size where I think that the ceiling for him is extraordinarily high.

10:25I mean, the physical comp a lot of people had for him was Jalen Carter. And Jalen Carter's making$38 million a year now. And for good reason, even coming off a quote-unquote down year because he had shoulder injuries, the Eagles still pay Jalen Carter because we know what he is. And for Nolan to be compared to that kind of physical unicorn, that's about as high of praise as it gets. if he's healthy, I agree with you. I think he's going to be awesome. There was a quote from him this week where he said, I feel like I'm the heartbeat of the defense, which is interesting to hear from a second year player, a lot of confidence.

11:03And yet, Mike LaFleur, his coach kind of backed it up. He said early after he got hired that when we faced them, we recognized their defense was just different because they played them once without Walter Nolan and they played him once with it and that they were just a different defense with him. Again, it's a lot to put on such a young player, but I'll fall for the offseason stories like that his injury was a wake up call about how much he loves football, that he got a personal shift. When it serves my interest, Brett, then I'm totally into it. And when the tape matches, I mean, he plays with the ferocity that I'm just I'm totally into.

11:43So I'm big on the Walter Nolan hype train this year. Yeah, we're always going to confirm our priors around here. That's pretty much it. All right. Give me someone else that you think or a group that you think is going to make the leap this year. Speaking of confirming my priors, so I had Omarian Hampton with an equivalent grade to Ashton Gentry in that year's draft class. I loved both of them equally. And Omarian, if you're looking at what he was last year versus what the Chargers run game as a whole was last year you can see his impact just by making them be not the worst run game in the league unfortunately ashton genti like they were arguably the worst run game in the league wasn't really ashton's fault but if you're looking at like average yards before contact per attempt the chargers were one of the worst offenses in the nfl last year at that their offensive line completely fell apart due to injuries alt got hurt slater obviously was hurt the entire year you know the interior trio like it was just a constant rotation of new guys and none of them were actually that effective and yet they were still 12th in explosive run rate last year and omarion among all running backs with at least 50 carries he was third in terms of uh missed tackle force percentage about 30 which is an absurd number so the fact that they were even a kind of below average run game in totality is just because of how good Amarian and also Kamani, but I'll also we're in that backfield offensive line deserve none of the credit for that.

13:12It was all the running backs and now, okay, alt is healthy. Slater's healthy ish. We think, you know, you lose Biotis, but like they drafted a guy who can play center and slaughter hard to believe the guard situation is going to be worse. Right? So if the offensive line is at least a little bit better and Hampton is still healthy, I think he could very easily put up like 1300 plus yards this year. Yeah. He is someone we got a chance to see in person when we went out to their training camp that he had one. He's just crazy to see in person. Cause he had, he had one where he got up the sidelines and just sprinted and just to see that size moving like that.

13:54It reminded me, I was lucky enough to see Derek Henry at field level once and it always stuck with me. He's not Derrick Henry, I know, but it's just so rare to see anyone that size move like that, that it's just sick looking at this guy in person. My comp for him, and I developed this comp after seeing him at the combine. Because for some reason, the NFL keeps letting me on the field at the combine. I don't know why. I don't know who I'm tricking to get away with that, but they keep letting me down there. And watching him go through the drills from like 10 feet away, my comp changed from a football player to a different kind of athlete entirely, a ballet dancer.

14:31Because when he steps, I swear to God, Greg, he floats off the ground. I've very rarely ever seen somebody move like him where it's almost like gravity is fighting to keep him on the ground every time he just takes a single step. The last guy that I saw up close and personal that moved like that was Julio Jones. He's that kind of athlete. He's just ridiculous. list. That's a great comp just in terms of a guy that is moving in a way that you don't expect to see and really wows you in person. Now you're there, what? Taking videos. What are you doing on the field at the combine exactly? Because you got like the high res, what's going on there?

15:12So I was always taking my FX3 down there to do like really cool like slow-mo cinematic shots, but I also have my notebook because the combine is like a unique opportunity where you can see guys with your own eyes do the same drill back to back to back to back to back and just see how guys move relative to each other. And I think it's so valuable. You try not to over index on it, but also like seeing quarterbacks throw live, seeing how the ball looks live. Cause I do think that cameras can kind of play a trick on you a little bit when it comes to like looking at how a ball flies through the air.

15:43That was actually what kind of changed my opinion on Trey Lance and Brock Purdy back in the day is you're watching Trey Lance on tape. You're like, Oh my God, this guy's got a gun for an arm. And you know, Brock Purdy doesn't look like he really has much at all. Then I showed up to Niners training camp. I think this was 2022, whatever year Brock Purdy's rookie year was. And just being on the sidelines of that training camp, you're like, oh my God, is Brock Purdy like their, their best quarterback. And you're just looking at how the ball jumps out of Trey's hands versus Brock. You're like, I think he might be.

16:13And that was what really made me believe in Brock was seeing him live in person before that season even started. He was QB four on the depth chart at the time. Jimmy was working on a side field and then eventually he gets his opportunity because of unfortunate injuries and he just took it. Right. And I hearken back to seeing it live. I was like, it kind of makes sense because if I'm seeing it live, the coaches are seeing it live. That's why he made the team and that's why he got the opportunity. It is weird to think that they were in the same training camp together. A couple of them. I think, I think, you know, Trey Lance was still there Brock Purdy second year.

16:49It's something that non-49ers fans, even myself, kind of memory hold that at one point, yeah, Brock Purdy had to beat out Trey Lance. With Hampton, because I've thought a lot about Auburn and Hampton. Are you at all worried about his running style? He's not necessarily a guy that's going to make you miss compared to some of his brethren at the position. And do you worry that he's almost, he invites contact at some point and that could be a problem? I think it kind of depends on where and how that contact happens, right? I think he does need to get a little bit better in terms of not inviting it in no-win situations.

17:39He's a young running back. He's eager. I think it's okay if you have 12 yards, right? You already got the first down. You have 12 yards. You're going out of bounds. You don't necessarily need to turn back into the safety. You can just get out of bounds. You got the explosive run. Preserve yourself for the next carry. He's very eager. He's a very violent running back. I think he can probably preserve himself a little bit more after he's already won. Yeah, that's a great way of putting it. and I'm sure he's been coached on that a little bit. Almost reminds you, yeah, of a quarterback that occasionally just save yourself just a little bit.

18:17Let's go, I'll go offensive line next. And I view this exercise, Brett, since it's happening right before the season as kind of we're planting our flag on these guys. I don't want to not mention Armand Membu because I've talked about him at different points a little bit throughout the offseason because I want to pick the guys that I think are the most likely to really ascend. And he's close to me to already being at an elite level. And the numbers, as much as you can get them for offensive linemen, would back me up. Just their running game when they ran to his side of the field last year was like a yard and a half better going to Membu's side than it was to the left.

19:01The numbers can be a little messy there. He did give up sacks. Those numbers weren't incredible. he tended to lose quickly the times that he lost but overall if you look up the pressure rate that he gave up as a rookie it was not high there were pre-snap penalties I mean he looked like a rookie and yet if if you asked me to just pick one tackle out of the last few draft classes for the next 10 years I think it's him I just I just think he's gonna be that guy and and tackles who are going to be great, often become great pretty quickly if they were that good as a rookie. So Membu is my second pick here for making the leap.

19:42I mean, he is just an absolute physical freak, right? Size, length, power, fluidity. It's very Tristan Wirfs-ish as far as the athletic profile. And in fact, I think if you put their numbers side by side, I bet it's pretty similar. And he moves like Tristan Wirfs, quite frankly. the fact that his first game ever as a rookie, it's like, Hey, go block TJ watt one-on-one. Right. And he did it. He pancaked him like four times in that game. That to me was the announcement of like, Oh, this, this guy isn't normal. And he just stayed not normal the entire year. I think he is arguably the best player on the team.

20:23Maybe not even arguable. Yeah. I was going to say on the jets, I thought you're, I thought you were about to go. He's like the, the best. tackle already and maybe I'm cheating a little bit. Part of the making the leap exercise, Brett, at the end of the year, you want to look good with it. Sometimes it's about the guy gaining a greater public profile and consciousness and acceptance when people like yourself are already kind of recognizing his talents. And yet I do think he had stuff to clean up as a rookie. I mentioned some of them where he did give up sacks. He did have penalties and everything.

21:01But for a guy to come out at that position and show that much upside right away at a position that's so difficult that so often you don't look like a star right away. Even some of the greats did not look like stars right away. It does feel like, yeah, Armand Membu, I agree with you, is the best player on the Jets. And if Fashanu can do his thing on the left side, and I don't think he's going to be at that level, but they really have like a couple of building blocks to be their team identity, to get excited about the Jets for a while with David Bailey on the other side. Were you a Membu or a Will Campbell guy going into the draft or both?

21:40I was Membu and quite frankly, I got very upset at the Raiders for taking a running back over Membu when they needed a right tackle and then that running back who again, very talented running back, nowhere to go and it's like, well, if they took the right tackle first, it'd probably be a better running game, but what do I know? Yeah, I love Membu so much. The question I have for you, because you mentioned, I don't know if there's a young tackle you take for the next 10 years over him. Him or Joe Alt? Where do you stand on that? I'd probably just go Membu, which is unfair just because he's not coming off of an injury, but Joe Alt is a great shout-out.

22:19Are you a big Joe Alt guy? Joe Walt to me I mean you've been watching football a long time just like me. You remember Jake Long pre-injury Jake Long? Yeah. That's Joe Walt to me. He's Jake Long. I think if he stays healthy which has been the issue so far. If he stays healthy that to me is like a future Hall of Fame tackle. That's how good he is. And his tape in his second season before he got injured was just outrageously good. Remarkable. He's a good shout out too because it's not that I forgot about him, but you also just think, okay, he's already good and he's coming back from an injury. And we're almost taking that for granted with the Chargers and what's happening this season.

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26:33I think so, especially if you think he's going to go to another level even. improve on where he was as a rookie? He very easily could, and I'll tell you why. A lot of it doesn't even really have that much to do with CJ. It has everything to do with the run game. And this is something that we highlighted on our week one preview of NFL Pro. If you're looking at the Texans' called run percentage on first down last year, 54.4%. That was way above league average of roughly 50%. I know it doesn't sound like a big difference. It absolutely is. They loved running the ball on first down. problem is they kind of sucked at it not even kind of they really did suck at it 28.4 percent of their first down rushes were successful that was the worst percentage in the league they led the league in second and long opportunities and the problem is in second and long the texans went into shotgun cj stroud is a better quarterback from under center than he is in shotgun kind of a rarity for a young quarterback quite honestly but when he is under center especially doing hard play action fakes from under center there's that structure there's that rhythm like he's he's very much a timing based quarterback and he thrives in that environment you put him into shotgun that kind of happy feet there the timing is different it's kind of more of a loosey group loosey goosey structure i would say and that's reflected in the numbers here as far as yards per attempt from under center 8.6 shotgun 6.9 massive drop off epa per drop back damn near tripled under center compared to shotgun he is a much better quarterback under center had just 16.6 percent of his dropbacks uh came on third and long second highest in the nfl behind only justin fields since entering the league so you give him a half decent running game which i think they're going to have this year with dave montgomery in an improved offensive line you get him into more second and manageable where they're going to be under center at twice the rate as gun once they get into second manageable compared to second and long.

28:37More under center for C.J. Stroud means a better C.J. Stroud, which means a better Texans offense, which means at that point, sky's the limit for that team. I think that he's a totally fair making the leap pick because, look, the rookie year was great for him to come out how he did and his great, like, if you had taken the 25 best throws of his rookie season, they were just jaw-dropping and he's great throwing the ball down the field. But even that season, somewhat statistically, it wasn't that far off from where he was last year, which I think overall was a little bit better season than we remember because of how it finished and because of the dichotomy you're bringing about.

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29:19He just wasn't consistent. He was streaky within games. He was streaky with the formations that they're using and just more consistency and the potential of being a top 8 to 10 quarterback, which just nobody thinks he is. that's more than enough of a leap. The making the leap committee validates it. We give you a check mark. It's acceptable. But he has to finish like top 10. I think he can do it. Let's stay in the same division. I'm going to go with a tight end. There were a few tight ends I considered. Can Charlie Kolar make a year five leap? Kincaid. We already know Loveland's good. But I actually am going to go with Brenton Strange who for so long was known for his blocking.

30:05He started to make the leap, I think, last year when he was healthy. But he's a player for the Jaguars that was great as a blocker, was great to have on the field and really helped them diversify the offense pretty quickly and was probably a better player than people realized right away. But has just gotten more consistent. He is a yards after a catch guy. He is a downfield threat at times. At one point, like in the playoff game, they're giving him shovel passes in the red zone to try to like beat someone on the edge one on one. I don't know if that was like the greatest idea. It didn't work against the Bills in the play, but it shows you the type of confidence that they have in him as a playmaker is a lot about Liam Cohen being his coach and being able to maximize his skill set.

30:51But he's a guy at a position, Brett, which often is a slow burn for guys. And usually we see it go the other way where they have to figure out the blocking as they go to be kind of become as, as fully realized as you want them to be as pros for strange. I think it's gone the other way. And I think that the Jaguars told us something, Brett, they signed him to a contract extension. Practically no one noticed in the middle of the summer this year, which could wind up looking like a bargain because I think they wanted to lock them in before his price got even bigger. He's going to be a really big part of that offense.

31:26it's so interesting how that offense kind of transformed around week 11 last year which coincided with the jacoby myers trade but also okay they found something colvin lanon you know he had an excellent you know home stretch the offensive line off the top of my head went from like bottom five in pressure rate allowed to top 12 or 14 in pressure rate allowed in the back half of the year so offensive line kind of fixed itself uh you know jacoby made a big impact Parker Washington emerged and while you know they they they wish they got more from BTJ last year and while it was unfortunate that Travis Hunter got injured the Jags offense in the home stretch compared to the Jags offense at the start of the year were two entirely different entities and I think they learned a lot of lessons from that I agree I do think they are going to feature Brent and Strange I don't think they're going to feature Travis Hunter as a receiver as much as people think because they need him more at corner and also because they have guys like Brent and Strange because they have guys like Parker and Jacoby and like BTJ still exists, by the way.

32:25Right. So if I'm giving snaps to Travis Hunter and trying to keep him healthy for a 17 game regular season and potentially a 21 game total season, if they go all the way, I'm not going to waste, quote unquote, waste snaps of his valuable, precious snaps at receiver when I really need him at corner, when we have a bunch of other guys that can get me explosives like Renton Strange. Yeah, there was a game against the Colts late in the season where it's yards after catch. It's plays down the field. And he missed a chunk of games in the middle of the season. I don't think they were the same offense without him.

33:04So every team is kind of looking for that type of tight end that is just going to be able to hide what you're doing offensively. And I think he is one of those guys. All right, you are up now with your fourth making the lead pick. I also chose a tight end. and again, kind of being loose with the definition here because some people think you might already have Colston Loveland with the Bears. No, I think that can work. What you have to do, though, is now you have to go very strong because he still has to make the leap from where he was last season. So you have to go like full takes men, best tight end in the league, or at least...

33:432011 Jimmy Graham numbers. Maybe second, like I'll accept second team All-Pro. For him to make the leap, it has to be to about that level. I think he is going to be the quasi Bears number one this year. And people got real hyped on Luther Burden. And that's fair. Luther Burden, I thought, had a really strong rookie campaign. Obviously, Roma Dunze is still there. As far as who the most uncoverable, game-changing weapon on the Bears is, it's Colston Loveland. And remember, he started out last season playing through injury. It took him a while to like really become himself. And when you have a true wide tight end, which he is, like he'll get after it in the run game a little bit, that can also absolutely abuse man coverage the way that Colston Loveland does.

34:28That's why three of his last four games, it was six for 94 and a touchdown, 10 for 91 and a touchdown, eight for 137. Like he's just absolutely sensational as far as being a receiving threat and he can block. I think he is going to be not even one of the four best tight ends. I think he's going to be one of the two best tight ends in football this year. Sure. Give him a second team all pro nod. I think he's also the most important, quote unquote, skill position player for the Bears. I think you can survive with their receiving core. If either Rome or Luther go down, I don't think you can survive without Colson Loveland with how important he is to them.

35:09That's a great way to think about it. how would Ben Johnson feel if he lost one of each of those players? I think if he lost Loveland, he's not talking about, right. He's not trying to talk about breaking the scoring record. Yeah. I couldn't agree more. And because, because they're a high profile team, he'll have a chance for everyone to see how great he is. You know, it's going to be tough to dislodge Trey McBride, you know, George Kittle at some point is going to be back. if he's fully going, but I think Loveland can be that valuable for him. And rookie tight ends have been better lately, but that's another position that there can be a real significant year two leap.

35:52I'm going with someone that, would it be a year four leap for Jay Luxunt? They haven't signed Jay Luxunt long-term, which is unlike Howie Roseman. What year is Jay Luxunt? I should know this coming in. I think you're right. I think it's year four. Right, because he was a rookie in that Super Bowl. No, this is only year three. That makes more sense. Because Howie is going to sign Jalex Hunt to a long-term extension in this upcoming offseason. And they're going to try to get a good deal out of it. He's not a first or second round pick. But to me, they've already made their choice, him versus Nolan Smith, because he's sort of made it for him.

36:33I'll never forget that performance in the Super Bowl where he got a lot of pressures. But even if you look at last year's playoff game, he had five pressures against the 49ers. And there's a snap. I mean, this is a guy from Houston Christian that just where he just pushes Trent Williams back into the lap of Brock Purdy. And that's incredible strength for a guy who's listed at 248 pounds. So in terms of QB hit rate last season, there was only a handful of players in the entire NFL that were better than Jay Luxon. So again, a guy who maybe doesn't get the national recognition, he started to make that leap already.

37:12But those guys were Miles Garrett, Zach Allen, Byron Young, Nick Benito. And then it's Jalex Hunt. And this is multiplied, Brett, by just hearing from the Patriots reporters who are at the joint practice. And then especially from the Eagles reporters that have been at practice every day that Jalex Hunt has just dominated to the point where they're like, should we be a little worried about Lane Johnson or like that doesn't make sense to us. But either way, Jay looks on has just been completely dominant and like practice wrecking in terms of how he's looked this season, which makes a lot of sense to me just because that's how he's played and he's entering his third season.

37:48And this is a team that, that knows how to develop their linemen. I mean, he and alongside Jonathan Gredard were the reason that they were comfortable letting walk my last guy of making the leap. And that's Jalen Phillips, the other, other, other Eagles edge. Okay. Kind of compounding everything together. It's good. That's professional podcasting. It's almost like you've done this. That's for a segue. Let's go. So you think Jalen Phillips can get better? Like another level he has to reach. Yeah, I think we're going to look back at that 2025 Eagles edge room. And we'll be like, wow, they had all those guys together in the same room.

38:26Because I think Hunt, I agree with you about Hunt. I think he's going to take a step forward this year. And I think Phillips, like he was their most effective edge rusher last year as far as like down to down. Like how often are you disrupting the quarterback? He was there, honestly, not even their best edge. He was their best pass rusher last year, largely because Jalen Carter was injured. But still, best, most productive pass rusher on a down by down basis for are you getting pressure? The problem was, wasn't really converting those pressures into sacks. Only had five on the year, had three with Miami, had two with the Eagles.

38:59but to me he was well worth the investment for when they traded for him to try to to just make a run because they felt they needed to add to their edge room in the short term and i think he paid off for them uh and also he got paid by carolina for a reason yep and there was no way the eagles were going to match that deal um they felt they felt they could get a comp pick back for him and when you kind of math it all together of like okay we're going to comp pick for him trading for Jonathan Grenard. We have Hunt coming up. It was a brilliant stretch of work by Howie Roseman. But the secondary part of that to me is that Jalen Phillips was worth the contract the Panthers gave him.

39:38And if he could just convert more of those pressures into sacks, which I think he will, because going back to his younger days in Miami, as well as in college, he was very good at turning pressures into sacks. If he can just be like an average pass rusher as far as that conversion rate, he'll be a 9 to 11 sack guy which to me is absolutely worth that kind of money and also I think he would be more recognized as one of the better, still young-ish he's 27, edge rushers in the league I'm glad you pointed out his age there because he just turned 27 this offseason and he's been in the NFL a while and I like thinking about him because you think, okay, he just got this money and obviously he had a good comeback season last year.

40:24But what he hasn't really had at the NFL level is like a couple years straight of full health. So this is a guy coming off a torn Achilles, followed up by a torn ACL, and then he did what he did last year. This is a fully healthy offseason, and we've never really gotten to see maybe the very peak of what Phillips can do. He was getting there as a second-year pro. He was awesome that season for the Dolphins. And everyone kind of expected him to be maybe a Defensive Player of the Year type of candidate the next year. And that basically is when all these injuries started to happen. And you're absolutely right.

41:03I think it's a good situation. I don't love that there's not a great edge rusher opposite him, but he does have Derek Brown next to him helping out. I think the plan was him and Skorton together. Then Skorton got injured. It was unfortunate. And I thought the Panthers, you know, a month ago, we're going to have a really cool young edge group. And it just kind of evaporated a little bit, but Jalen's still good. There, there is another level where he could reach and everyone will be calling that front office. Very smart for that contract, even though they got too much heat for it. I thought I agree with you.

41:38My last pick. Let's, let's go with Trey Tucker. You know, are you a Trey Tucker guy? Are you part of Trey Tucker Island here? This is a little bit more about fantasy and opportunity, but I do believe in him as a player as well. I am Trey Tucker neutral. I don't not believe, but I'm willing to hear the argument. Well, first of all, you can't teach that speed. It's crazy. But I think they're going to work a lot of the offense around him just because they don't have other options. Obviously, it's Bowers first. that it's the running game. But if you saw how they were using Tucker in the preseason a little bit and a little bit what I've heard in practice, I think they really believe in him as their key wide receiver.

42:27And the speed is truly special. It's just rare to see anyone make really fast cornerbacks look that slow. But he's not just a straight line guy. He's a little tougher than you think. He's a little bit better of a route runner than you think. He's a little more versatile. I'm not saying he's like Tyreek Hill or anything like that, but I do think he's a guy that you can build more of the plane out of this year and make him a higher volume type of player, a plus 1 ,000 yard receiving type of player. And when you get better players on the roster, you're still giving Trey Tucker a long-term contract as like a solid two, three, whatever it's going to be.

43:10And maybe he doesn't reach the heights that he reaches this year, where maybe he goes for 11, 1200 yards possibly. I do think he's that good of a player and I do think he's that much better than the other wide receivers that they have. And I think they recognize that. We'll see. It's a little bit of a gamble here going Trey Tucker, but I think he's a really good player. Let me ask you this question. Let's say Kirk plays 12 games or Kirk plays four games. How does that affect the stat line?

43:41I'm not prepared for that. I almost think Mendoza, you know, it's gonna, I think Mendoza would be better for him. Take more shots to him. Now I think Trey Tucker, it's, you know, it's not just, it's not all deep shots. I think they're going to use him on, on run after catch and get him involved on, on like the slants that Kirk likes to throw. But I agree. I, my initial instinct is like, I want more Mendoza, but that's just me in general, more Mendoza. It's going to be more fun. I'm going to be beating that drum pretty early. I think on, on Mendoza. Cause I, I was actually kind of impressed, not even kind of, I was impressed with him in the preseason.

44:14Yeah. They were more under center heavy with him than I thought they would be. Like they very much were like, we're throwing you into the fire. You need to be ready for this. We're not changing our offense for you. Like you need to get reps of doing this. Obviously a couple of hiccups here and there, but he was doing like under center, non-play action dropbacks, like a traditional five-step drop straight out of 2007. seven. I don't know if he's ever done that before. And, and he was like ripping an in cut, you know, behind a linebacker. And I was like, it looks like he can do it folks. So what are we really waiting for here?

44:51I'd rather he gets some of those rookie lumps out of the way. I think he's going to be one of those quarterbacks that benefits more from playing than sitting. But what do I know? I agree. And I think they were throwing them into the deep end because he showed them in practice that he was ready to let's really see what this is going to look like. Let's not try to manufacture some good numbers by protecting him as a rookie. Let's test drive this as much as we can because he might be a little closer to playing than we expected and we might want to see if we're ready to use him week four, week five.

45:27I tend to agree with really everything you said there and think it will be a little earlier in the season. Plus, if they start out real bad, by the way, you're going to hear... Yeah, I actually think Kirk Cousins is a little bit better than people think at this point in his career because I think he was significantly better year two removed from that Achilles than he was the first year back, but he's still just a bridge guy that doesn't want to get hurt. and you're talking about a big dude in Fernando Mendoza that earned that number one overall pick. Brett Coleman, one of our big draft picks here at NFL Media.

46:07Of course, he's got the YouTube page. Check it out, at Brett Coleman. It's all 32. He's got the Bootleg podcast. And then, yeah, most importantly, you know, for our interests, he's part of the team. So I hope to have you on later in the season, Brett. And in the meantime, everyone check out NFL Pro twice a week. when is it mondays fridays uh yeah mondays and fridays so we record our kind of like reaction to the games on sunday nights by the way you and i are going to be competing for studio space that first sunday so hope you're ready to fight uh and then our friday shows go live kind of previewing the next slate of weekends games every week my eric just uh jumped into my ears he's like surprise and i was like uh-oh what is happening on sundays um my producer was like yeah we're gonna have to record at like 8 p.m.

46:57We'll duel it out. We'll figure it out. We're going to do what's best for the entire team. That was a lot of fun to do. We will be back one more time this week on the NFL Daily Feet. It's going to be our final prediction. I've been teasing it. Myself, Patrick Claibon is back in the studio. Jordan Rodriguez will be back here as well. We'll go through all the divisions, all the big awards, and yes, our Super Bowl winners. We'll see you Friday.

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