2025 NFL Week 11 Recap: Rams, Eagles, Broncos Separate, Josh Allen Goes Nuclear, and Playoff Picture Takes Shape

17:22Nick Shook:But anyway, and I hear some of the narratives and I just want to like cry. But anyway, it is what it is. That's your jobs.

17:34Patrick Claybon:and I hope somebody does their job because they're in the room laughing and the rest of us outside of Denver have no idea what the context is for that conversation. I think he is sad for Bo Nix how much criticism he's getting. That's how I read that.

17:47Jourdan Rodrigue:I want to know where he goes when he gives the thousand yard stare. If I ever got in that room to ask a question, that's probably what I would ask. I would totally derail the rest of the beat.

17:57Patrick Claybon:When Bo was not pressured today, he was 22 of 29 for 273 yards, had a passer rating of 104. All those numbers better than the very notable quarterback who plays on the other side of the field, Greg Rosenthal. I asked you prior to this game. Yeah. If Bo Nix is able to go in, get a win, essentially bury and fork the Kansas City Chiefs at this point in the division. Okay, fork the division. Even then, I'm not going to fork them just because you never know. Perhaps in the division. But they are three losses back and have a bad division record. Okay. does Bo Nix go up in my glorious spreadsheet and become a part of the conversation here in 2025?

18:36Patrick Claybon:Can I award him points? Are you refusing to allow Bo Nix to participate in this?

18:41Jourdan Rodrigue:And be careful what you say, because you might make Sean Payton cry. I'm not putting him in the conversation. You got to trust your eyeballs. I know that the quarterback of the number one seed, which right now they are almost always gets MVP votes, but now, now you have five, like if he keeps this up, Some people will give him like a fifth place vote or something, but we got a long way to go. I'm not ready to put him in the conversation, but you know what he's doing is he's kind of setting the groundwork that if he does suddenly catch fire down the stretch, you never know. The Chiefs on the other side, Jordan, I still do believe that the bones of this team are better than the team from a year ago, and yet they are 5-5 with the Colts coming into town next week, And man, their margin for error is brutal.

19:28And it's out of their hands now. They are likely to be on the road for three straight weeks if they want to make the Super Bowl, assuming they make the playoffs and assuming the Broncos and the Chargers both don't collapse, which you never know.

19:41Jourdan Rodrigue:One thing Lou Anarumo can do to that point of who's coming to play them next is he can mix his coverages and send pressure in different ways, the same way that Vance Joseph did today. the Broncos blitzed and I've used this phrase multiple times tonight blitzed the poop out of Pat Mahomes 14 times seven pressures on those 14 blitzes and he may have loved throwing at Jaquan McMillan but Jaquan McMillan sure loved hitting Pat Mahomes because two of the three sacks he took against the blitz were from McMillan and so I think that is copyable by a defense such as Lou Anarumos that's using first of all has more personnel now especially with the big trade that they just made and also can mix those coverages behind the blitz the way that could be successful and could muddy things up for not just Patrick Mahomes who can see anything and everything, but specifically for the receivers trying to find contours within all that muck.

20:30Patrick Claybon:And the receiver, the only receiver that he trusts to find contours at this point is still Travis Kelsey. And this is with everyone back. And you would like to see Rasheed Rice make a contested catch like he had a chance to do. You get one from Tyquan Thornton, but like Tyquan Thornton only that's that's the only thing Tyra Kwan Thornton is doing right leading the NFL in yards per catch one for 61 it was a big 61 but that does not an offense make like it's hard to sustain like any level of success when you rely on that so it's all Travis Kelsey and this group that has so much talent and when they're moving around and the play calls are successful and defenses aren't standing there and waiting on them to come through their area they look great right now it's it's tough to have confidence in it considering this is multiple games in a row with a bye week in between where it's looked very similar against two different teams yeah and you mentioned like getting other guys involved there you know rishi rice and xavier worthy combined for 63 yards on 14 targets and the running game was was fine like on a per run basis but they just don't stick with it and mahomes in the passing game i think to be real his mvp chances which I feel like looking forward was we're pretty high going into this week.

21:45The spreadsheet to finally get it. Well, they've taken a hit. They've taken it.

21:48Patrick Claybon:It was tough with the buy because he got no points for that. It gives him more points with a chance because points do escalate. But this is back to back weeks with no points in the conversation. Yeah, they just have a lot of ground to make up. And I don't think enough can be said about the job Vance Joseph is doing. Like, because it's not just the names, you know, Zach Allen had a big play late, but it's Justin Stranade. It's Robinson, Quinarius Robinson, who I was not overly familiar with, like making a lot of plays. He goes by Q. Playing a lot of snaps. And then Uru Zarike, a defensive end for them, also like making noise.

22:23It's just, it's a team that's greater than the sum of their parts. And that is a credit to this coaching staff who is great at everything except for avoiding the refs. If you're watching us on YouTube, I do just have to point out that that play where Sean Payton is running down the sideline and absolutely decks the referee. They both go down. And then the ref with the amazing move, he's not even going to look back at Sean Payton before he throws the flag. He's just going to throw the flag. I don't even think about you, Sean Payton. Bad job by the get-back coach there on that play.

22:56Jourdan Rodrigue:I don't think about you at all. You know who I do think about a lot? And it really has set up the end of this season to be extra special. The Titans of the AFC over the last five years are all trying to get back in the mix. The Chiefs trying to get into the playoffs. We know the Ravens are now streaking and the Buffalo Bills trying to stay in touch in the AFC East.

23:16Nick Shook:Three receivers to the left, cooked to the right of Allen and the shotgun here on second and four. Allen back to pass, now going to tuck it and run as he's looking for the end zone. And the surge pushes him in for his sixth touchdown of the game. He is a beast with a capital B. He is a scoring machine. He is a fantasy dynamo. And when you need a win from the Buffalo Bills, you need to take apart a defense that I thought was balanced enough and primed to slow down this one-dimensional Bills offense. Josh Allen is the man that you want. One of the only guys to ever do it. In fact, I think, is he the only guy to ever go three passing touchdowns, three rushing touchdowns?

24:04Yes, and he's done it twice. And he's done it two different times. It's incredible. That's Chris Brown, by the way, on WGR. They put a 40-burger on my guy, Todd Bowles. End up winning, going away 44-32. Patrick, we both thought the Buccaneers could win this game, and we were very wrong. Why were we wrong?

24:23Patrick Claybon:Well, what we thought was going to happen was how the game started because the Buccaneers get a nice drive. They do get some yards. They establish the run very early. Emeka Ibuka got a nice gain on the screen set up. They didn't necessarily get points, but they got a great punt to pin the Buffalo Bills down at the three-yard line. So first two snaps of the game, Gabe Davis and Josh Palmer run mesh. They run into each other. Ball hits the ground, incomplete. Very next play, the Bucs blitz from depth, and Savasier Dennis, nobody picks him up. Josh Allen has Savasier Dennis pulling him down inside the end zone, decides he's going to throw a two-hand push pass that gets picked off.

25:05Patrick Claybon:by Jacob Parrish, and the Bucs get the ball. They only get a field goal, though. The Bucs had instant impact, though, for Mecole Hardman on the ensuing kickoff. He gets a 64-yard return, leading to a score. It devolves into a score fest towards the end where both teams are going back and forth, but the Bills keep hitting these big play punches, and we saw it with Travion Henderson against the Bucs a week ago where the Bucs were doing this bend-and-break defense, but it was more break than not because James Cook had a 25-yard reception. Ty Johnson had a huge catch and run towards the end of the first half, and there's this up in the play call, up in the booth, where Joe Brady obviously goes through a lot when things don't go well for Buffalo.

25:54Patrick Claybon:He lifts the Lexan, the crystallized cover over the button, and he mashes the 17 button. Yes. And that was it. Like essentially it was just all Josh Allen and the Buccaneers defense having to adjust like what happens when Josh Allen rolls? Like everything is focused on 17. And when it wasn't 17, there was big space for other guys to make plays. And then he's he's running over people. He just does it all. And my whole thinking is it's very tough to sustain that. Yeah, it's tough, but he goes out and does it to the extent that what else what else are you supposed to do? These are the performances that you often see late in the season.

26:32This happened early. Like even when in their first playoff run, it's like they started pressing that button, especially with him running late in the season. And then they really took off. So like this late in the season is starting a little earlier this year. And you're seeing plays like this throw of the year nominee.

26:49Nick Shook:It's an empty set play clock down to two Allen and the shotgun one. And there's the snap back to pass looking left pumps rolls to his right pocket collapsing, comes back to his left, heaves it down the left sideline for Shavers in the end zone for a touchdown. A broken play goes for 643 yards.

27:11Jourdan Rodrigue:Like, what do you do against that?

27:12Patrick Claybon:That's the Josh Allen that we've come to know in Buffalo. It really was that that's his old teammate, right? Eric Wood on the call. The funny thing is it's a broken play, but Josh is the one that broke it. Like it was a three man rush with no pressure at all and he just starts running around and he makes something happen. That's true

27:29Jourdan Rodrigue:God mode. I destroy my own creation. Which is the problem with

27:33Patrick Claybon:the three man rush against the Bills where now you've got 11 guys watching number 17 and it's like oh God what's he going to do? Oh God what's he going to do? Oh I have to cover Tyrell Shavers of all people where you've got Tyrell Shavers and Gabe Davis and Mecole Hardman. Like that's the group of people and they damn near score 450 points. The crazy thing is the Bucks lost this game when they run for 202 yards, the success retied. Now they did get stuff behind the line of scrimmage a lot in this game too. So they're a little bit of a boomer bust running game. But if you had told me, you know, they run for 202 yards, Sean Tucker is breaking tackles.

28:09He goes over a hundred. He played really well. They, they have to take key on Coleman, uh, out of the game before it even starts. Cause he was late to a team meeting and he's inactive and he's, he's getting kind of the business from his teammates after the game. Dion Dawkins said that his own teammate is on the hot seat. Never heard of that one before saying that he needs to grow up. And yet the bills go out there and they, and they have a great performance. And on the flip side, the bucks, they're just not coming out. I know early in the season, they were, they were getting, they've had a very tough schedule and they've been coming out.

28:41Jourdan Rodrigue:They're so injured still. They are still injured, but they're health. They're pretty healthy up front in terms of their offensive line. because of the way that they're running the ball. Like, that's the thing. If you take out Josh Allen God mode of this game, and I know you can't extrapolate that. The results are the results, but I still think the Spucks team is going to be fine. You do need cleaner play from Baker Mayfield. Baker Mayfield did not do himself many favors ahead of this week's quarterback Island. And certainly, as Patrick noted when he came in, certainly no favors in the conversation.

29:12Patrick Claybon:No, it's a zero for, and Greg wants Baker out. He never wanted Baker in.

29:17Jourdan Rodrigue:I'm not ready to quit him. Yeah.

29:19Patrick Claybon:Has he been one of the, is there even any,

29:22Jourdan Rodrigue:are you literally forgetting the entire first part of the season? but even then Greg agree that it doesn't matter. I, it does matter, but I don't think anyone is making an argument that he's a top like seven quarterback in the NFL right now.

29:33Patrick Claybon:Like so far this season and considering the opportunity where this bill secondary has struggled against players, the caliber of a Mecca Buka. There really wasn't that opportunity today. He got nine targets, only caught five of them for 40 yards. He did have a drop in there, but there were also some uncatchable balls thrown in rough situations where Baker only threw for 173 yards in a game where they scored 32 points. And ultimately, you're talking about when they're going back and forth in the second half. Yeah. But the reason the Bucs end up losing by two scores is right when that starts, he throws a big groaner of an interception.

30:08And he just needs to play at an MVP level. I think with what's been around, like he would need to be at this level for them to be where they want to be. So they fall to six and four, although they're still ahead in the divisions. It's a game. It's getting a little closer. The Bills stay in distance there with the Patriots. They're up to seven and three. Let's take a break. We got some other big leverage games in terms of playoff positioning still to go.

30:39Nick Shook:Playoffs.

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35:03Nick Shook:out of the hole to Torrey Taylor right half slide angle left from 49. Cairo Santos the 8 on his white jersey awaiting the snap. Snap is back. Hold is good. Sweeps the right leg. Cairo Santos is up. He's good! Good! Good from 48. Cairo Santos mobbed on the Viking logo. Bears win it 19-17. Another comeback drive by Caleb Williams. The Iceman Comet and the Bears take it from the Vikings. Oh, great call there by Jeff Joniak on WMVP. Bears win 19-17 in a game that they didn't think they were going to have to sweat out like that. I love Paul Allen so much. I kind of wanted to lead with a sad Paul Allen, but you know what?

35:54That was a great call and is a great moment in recent Bears history. I know you've had a little season pop up here or there, but you've got a young quarterback, you've got a first year head coach, and you just beat the Minnesota Vikings to go seven and three when the Bears lost that week one game. I remember saying in the post game with Shooky, that felt like an organizational type of win for the Vikings. They didn't really deserve to win that game, but just everything's so buttoned up there. They've been in their program for four years. The Bears are just starting out that they just found a way to win.

36:31That's what good organizations, good quote-unquote cultures do. And I kind of felt that way like the flip side here. Not that the organizations are at a different spot, but that the Bears are cleaner. They should have won this game. They avoided the big mistakes on offense. And even though their defense has a long way to go, they ultimately had the formula and were the more mature team. and they deserve this split of the Minnesota Vikings who fall to four and six.

37:01Jourdan Rodrigue:Do you know what I love about this? And it's the last couple of games and certainly these comebacks and these late wins by the Bears so far this season is in the late moments of these games in crunch time. No longer are we fully thinking, oh my God, what creative way are they going to lose this game? What horrible thing is about to happen to this football team? because we saw the range of possibilities last season and certainly in the cursed years prior to that, right? This is different. This is that feeling where you see your offense take over again and have a chance to win a football game, and you have that feeling of possibility and of hope, and I am so happy for Bears fans because that is so hard to, first of all, do, but also to quantify, and it's not mathematical.

37:53Jourdan Rodrigue:It just is right. And they've been missing that it factor and they have it now. And it's, and it's beautiful really to watch this take over that fan base and that team. And I want to give Caleb Williams credit, I think for avoiding big mistakes here. He was really great in this game, avoiding sacks. There was a play where Roma Dunze, you know, sprints to get a fumble on a play that they lost 15 yards, but it was a great hustle play. It was like one of the best fumble recoveries of the season. Certainly maybe the best. and then Caleb rips one for 23 yards over the middle and he had some high level throws like that but ultimately like they didn't move the ball well on offense he only completes half his passes for 193 yards and that game-winning drive that they're giving him credit for it was from their kick returner you know it was Devin Duvernay setting that up Caleb Williams didn't have to throw a single pass they just ran it three straight times but that's that's what I like it's been different parts of the team stepping up because Jordan was saying like you're thinking of different catastrophic ways they could lose this game.

38:53If they lost this game, it would have been catastrophic, considering the situation that they were in 16-3 heading into the fourth quarter before J.J. McCarthy, after a brutal performance, doesn't do a lot in the fourth quarter, but does do enough on a drive that took the lead late.

39:10Patrick Claybon:Yeah, it was the run game that kind of got them back. There was the Jordan Mason touchdown before the J.J. McCarthy touchdown to Jordan Addison that gave them the lead. But the Bears kind of, as you pointed out, avoiding the mistakes where this was a, you know, to say it got to have a game. You know, Brian Flores is going to be aggressive on defense. Caleb Williams got blitzed on. He had 36 dropbacks. He got blitzed on 24 of them. It was the second highest blitz rate by any defense in a game this season. And so, you know, dealing with that level of pressure in a close game and managing to take care of the ball, because the Bears offense can be kind of haphazard.

39:49Patrick Claybon:Like a lot of it is Caleb spinning around, breaking six tackles, and making dangerous throws down the sideline to avoid those mistakes while still playing in that Bears way. I know there wasn't a lot of statistical success, but I think we can take something away. I agree, and he had a big throw to Loveland at one point. They were really good when they needed to be situationally running the ball in short yard situations. Monunga's stats look horrible, but he actually had a lot of successful short yardage runs. That dude is an awesome short yardage. Monung dude. Monung dude. DeAndre Swift with some good plays too.

40:24On defense though, they were just helped out by J.J. McCarthy. Having a tough one for most of the game.

40:30Jourdan Rodrigue:I don't mean to laugh, but I'm just remembering. So Greg and I sit next to each other as we watch these games and mostly Patrick's with us, but then Patrick has to go do live TV for a big block in the middle. And Greg is watching. It's all three and a half hours. Yeah, Greg is watching this game. and every once in a while, I'll just hear him go, oh, JJ. I mean, there was a hilarious Fox moment where they started showing how much he was struggling and having Brady explain it. This was maybe Tom Brady's best game I've ever heard him call. He is getting better and better, just literally explaining things, and he knows things.

41:01I appreciate it. And he was trying to explain on some of the misses. One of them was on our Watote nominee, which was early in the game, JJ McCarthy's miss to Jordan Addison. And yet Tom Brady's watching this one. He's like, yeah, yeah, I don't know what to say about this one. And then they show another one. And he was just like, yeah, I don't know on this one. And then the third one, he's like, well, I guess this one needs a little more touch. He was just trying to find something. And J.J. McCarthy ultimately is just like missing throws. A lot of the times it's just timing and or accuracy. But like like things are not close.

41:38It's tough to tell even what receiver. I can't I can't tell it was supposed to be to Addison. Let's actually listen to McCarthy talking after the game.

41:46Patrick Claybon:Absolutely sucks. Gut-wrenching loss for us. You know, got to give credit to our opponent. They had a great game plan. They played really well in all three phases, and I need to do a better job of my decision-making. The accuracy, it needs to change. I need to be better. And overall execution of the offense, I need to be better on just, you know, doing my job at a higher level. So I'll open it up to any questions. JJ, why do you think your accuracy is so off right now? The thing is just growing at the end of the day. There's a lot of things that I have to improve on, and accuracy is one of them.

42:20Patrick Claybon:And I promise you I'm going to wake up tomorrow and get ready to go to get working on that.

42:27Patrick Claybon:Yeah, he was under some pressure in the game. A lot of those throws were clean pockets. I can't think of a more pressure situation than like, hey, man, why are you spraying the ball all over the field? Minutes after he came in, didn't even give him a question, and he's just like, hey, guys, yeah, I played bad. And then the first question is, why did you play so bad? Like, ooh.

42:44Jourdan Rodrigue:He was only under pressure on 21.9 % of his dropbacks, guys. Like, whoa. That was the takeaway for me where the conditions were ideal. The receivers were open. The protection was great. And I always repeat myself that, like, the first, the thing you have to pass first to be an NFL quarterback is, like, if the protection is good, can you look good? Because that's, like, that's the bar. like a good backup at least is doing that. Like Blake Bortles, if the protection was good, was like, maybe, maybe, maybe not. You know what I mean? Like that's the bar. Like you have to make those plays work. And he didn't.

43:23It was chaotic. He was a negative 15 in terms of completion percentage, under expected. And yet he did do kind of the J.J. McCarthy thing where they needed a touchdown drive at the end of the game. And then he did make some good throws.

43:37Nick Shook:First and 10 from the Bears, 15. Addison in motion to the left. Takes the snap. Now a four-man rush. McCarthy to the end zone. And caught! Yes! Jordan Addison! Just in the nick of time! And we're tied at 16! He's J.J. McCarthy! Well done! I had a feeling that would be a rousing one because, yeah, you just did not feel like the Vikings were going to come back in that game. And now it's got to be one of the more, we'll talk about it during the week, but it's got to be one of the more challenging weeks, I think, of the KOC era, them falling to four and six and feeling quite out of this division race.

44:20Patrick Claybon:But, I mean, the positives that you can take, they're in the game. They cover the kick better. They have a chance to win. And the protection was good for J.J. McCarthy and the receivers were open. There's a path for it to improve. I just got to go out there and do it. Well said. Let's go to Jacksonville, where the most messy fun team in the league was kind of losing the NFL daily support over the last...

44:46Jourdan Rodrigue:Not for me. Let's listen.

44:49Nick Shook:16th play of the drive. Under center is Trevor. They fake the toss. They throw it to the back of the end. Caught for the touchdown! A play fake! Tim Patrick in the back of the end on a one-yard touchdown pass. They've extended the lead. How good is that? It was great. Everything about the Jaguars was great. A completely dominant effort by the Jaguars defense helps them win 35-6, Jordan, in a game where our friend Aaron Schatz of FTN noted there was more playoff leverage in this game than any game all season long. The Jaguars now, with the win, you know, have a better than 50-50 chance to make the playoffs.

45:33If they had lost, they were buried under 20%. Meanwhile, like the Chargers, it's a loss that hurts them, and they happily get to their bye week.

45:42Jourdan Rodrigue:Streets are saying Liam Cohen owns Jesse Minter. You know, that Tim Patrick touchdown capped one of the most impressive Jacksonville Jaguars drives I have seen in literally years. 16 plays, 9 minutes and 18 seconds, a touchdown spanning between the third and the fourth quarters, and that put the Jaguars up 28-6. This offense ran the hell out of the ball all game behind Basial Tootin, who did leave with an ankle injury. There's no update on that yet. And Travis Etienne, they both combined together specifically for 147 yards, three touchdowns, and forced 13 missed tackles by this Chargers defense the entire game.

46:21Jourdan Rodrigue:the Jaguars finished with 192 net rushing yards, and the Chargers could barely get the ball back, let alone put together anything sustainable on offense. By the time Trey Lance took over, with about 10 minutes left in the game, the Jaguars up 35-6. The Chargers had four net yards of second-half offense, 104 net yards total, and Jacksonville had had over 30 minutes of possession to that point. It's crazy. This was the third worst offensive performance by any team in the NFL this year, according to Shiel Kapadia. That's EPA per play. 135 yards overall. That's bottom five just in terms of total yardage.

47:02It's a surprise because the Jaguars' pass rush hasn't been great lately. Let's listen to certainly their best player having a big moment.

47:11Nick Shook:Third down and 10. Jags have six defensive backs in the game. They got that extra safety in Rayon Lane in the game. Shotgun. dropping is Justin Herbert. Four-man rush. Scrambles away. He gets hit. He's going to get sacked. Josh Hines-Allen got a third sack of the day for Jacksonville back at the 28-yard line. Now, after that sack, Josh has set the franchise career record for sacks. Congratulations to Josh Hines-Allen. Oh, very cool. An unsung hero for many years. And I know this year has been frustrating for him because he has been near the top of the league in pressure rate and doesn't have many sacks to show for it and he gets it in a day they were just dominant like what did this

47:53Jourdan Rodrigue:look like from the jaguars defense yeah this was cool so having devin lloyd back was so crucial for them you could just tell that everybody feels more comfortable and more aggressive like anthony campanelli the defensive coordinator can can call more things can be a little bit mix things up a little bit more in terms of what he wants to do with this pressure um they made splash plays in bunches um josh heinz allen you you showed the the sack that he had just now he got to justin Herbert twice, once on a first down and then on the third and long. They got their hands on the ball. It was really fortuitous for Jacksonville and for guys like Trayvon Walker and all over this defense who had a great game that they were going up against one of the more depleted and just questionable offensive lines in the NFL.

48:40Trevor Penning started at left tackle.

48:43Jourdan Rodrigue:He got benched after that second, that franchise record setting play that Josh Heinz Allen made after giving up five pressures in a sack. And then they put an Austin Deculis at left tackle. Um, you know, it just was. And then at that point, Justin Herbert started to press. He threw one of the most non Justin Herbity interceptions you will ever see. Um, because he just, he started trying to go into hero ball mode and he had no protection. Um, I don't think I've ever seen a left tackle, a team just traded for benched that quickly in a game. It was, it was not good because it wasn't just, and he, and he was ISO too.

49:21Jourdan Rodrigue:He was single one-on-one against the pass rush. And it wasn't just that the pressures that he allowed were just like, oh, pressures on, you know, on dropbacks. They were not only were they quick pressures, but they were bad pressures where he was getting pushed all the way backward into Justin Herbert. I mean, it was so confounding to me with all the massive human beings that they have as chippers on this offense. Why it was so ISO for Trevor Penning. And then he just got yanked like they just pulled him.

49:49Patrick Claybon:Yeah. And perhaps it's, you know, feeling yourself a little a little too much where they make the Odafe O-Way trade and it works out. And they go into last week where I didn't pick the Chargers because I'm thinking, oh, they're relying on Trevor Penning. That can't be good. And he doesn't play a snap. in his first game with the Chargers. And I'm thinking, okay, so they don't need Trevor Penning. Then I look up and they're playing horrible. I'm asking George, like, is that Trevor Penning? She's like, yeah, he just got binned.

50:16Jourdan Rodrigue:I said, not anymore. I couldn't tell because I was sitting next to Jordan, as we've established, and there was a lot of, oh, Trevor. But it actually was both Trevors for a little while. And you were like, oh, Trevor. And I just didn't know. It was not a great game for Trevors. No, not a good Trevor day. Trevor Lawrence is at times infuriating to watch. I'll just say that. Like I've been, I've been on this rock for a while, but it is, he made his dumb mistakes early, which really helped out the Jaguars because they completely dominated the line of scrimmage on both sides. Awesome. And that is what made the difference in this game.

50:50Jourdan Rodrigue:And he just sort of like, just let go behind him. Honestly, like I don't want to call him a game manager. He made some nice throws, but like he really, he really just let the game go honestly, after making a couple of mistakes early and like the worst outbreaking throw I've ever freaking seen in my entire life that was too slow and thrown to the defenders inside leverage versus outside shoulder of the guy running the route. And Dante Jackson picks it off. And at that point, I'm like, are you kidding me right now? Like, seriously? And it was a slow throw. Put some juice on it, man. Like, J.J. McCarthy at least is ripping these passes, you know?

51:28Patrick Claybon:And I think it's resulted in Liam Cohen. You know, they did run the ball great. the most routes ran was Parker Washington ran 20 routes today.

51:37Jourdan Rodrigue:Yeah, he's special.

51:37Patrick Claybon:Like, that's it. In terms of the Jacksonville Jags passing offense, like Trevor has 22 attempts where, you know, he had the straight Tebow power rushing touchdown, but, like, it kind of got hidden by Cohen in the offense in this game where they scored 35 points. This was a bad result, I think, for the Chiefs and the Steelers slash Ravens Ravens and the teams that are trying to sneak in to the back half of the playoffs because the Jaguars schedule, one of the reasons their percentage to make the playoffs is so high, even though they're not great, is like, it's pretty favorable down the stretch.

52:14So to get a win like this, by the way, since they fell down, I think it was 27-0 in that playoff game in Jacksonville, they have outscored the Chargers. I know that was a long time ago and many coaches ago. 66-9. That's what you deserve when you play Trevor Penning at left tackle. He wasn't, you don't think the Saints would have played him there if he could have. I mean, he was struggling at guard. Get him, Greg. All right, let's go to MetLife for a fun one. In the shotgun, Winston looks it over.

52:40Nick Shook:Here's the snap. Winston sets, throws, left side of the end zone. Intercepted! Intercepted by the kid! Oh, Evan Williams delivers in the left corner of the end zone. And the Packers deliver the dagger. Oh, it's the dagger. But it wasn't exactly the dagger because they did get the ball back for one last play where Micah Parsons gets a strip sack on Jameis Winston. A thrilling end, I would say, to a well-played football game. They got the fired coach bounce. I thought Mike Kafka had a good game. They were up for the challenge. This thing was back and forth, but the Packers win 27-20. And I know there will be a lot of complaining about why do the Packers play with their food.

53:27the Giants had a lot of low percentage plays, especially passing the ball that they hit. And I want to give Jordan Love credit. First of all, this was one of the best games of his career, which is crazy because at the end of the game, I looked and it was 174 yards and it's one of those. You got to watch it because he had six or seven incredible plays. They only had seven possessions in this game. So putting up four touchdowns in seven possessions is excellent. His air yards was over 12 and a half. A lot of his throws were tight window throws where he almost was passing up on those short throws that might have been available, but he hit him down the field.

54:03There were a number of drops that went against him. Josh Jacobs got hurt early in this game, did not return after halftime. They did not run the ball particularly well. And I thought Love was really up for the challenge with great plays. Let's actually watch one of them to one of two Christian Watson touchdowns. and they both were great plays by the receivers.

54:25Nick Shook:Green Bay treading by one. A shotgun snap to Lovey. Bobbles for a moment. Now Lawson, right side of the end. Wow. He can grab. Oh, sensational. Touchdown. Catch. Christian Watson. My, oh, my, oh, my. Same. They beat Corey Black, and Christian Watson used every bit of his 6 '4 frame to go up and grab that one. You know, Christian Watson is he is the difference. Like he makes such a difference because we were watching the Malik Willis drive. Justin rather Jordan Love gets hurt early in this game, has to get an injury checked out for a drive. And Malik Willis plays incredible. And Christian Watson makes maybe an even better catch on the Malik Willis touchdown throw, which is also so a great catch.

55:11So Watson has made a huge difference since returning.

55:13Patrick Claybon:Yeah, it was Malik Willis rolling to his right. And you're not sure, like, who's he going to throw the ball to? He fires a missile at Christian Watson, who comes back a little bit to make that grab. And you see a couple of flashes there of roster construction and the way that it works, where they're able to get Christian Watson. He comes back from the ACL injury, looks great in his first game back, where normally you worry about a guy in this situation. I'm sure he'll tell you he's not 100 % there, because it's kind of physically impossible to be at this point while playing tackle football. But he's able to make these plays, and to have a quarterback like Malik Willis, who Matt LaFleur trusts, I think he might like calling plays a little bit more.

56:00They ran the ball incredibly in the one Malik Willis drive, including a third and long run by Malik Willis, which was a design run. He started breaking out the good stuff right away, and I started thinking, oh, man, this is going to be rough for the conversation. But then Jordan Love responded.

56:14Jourdan Rodrigue:fill mom and dad's liquor bottle back up with water and put the cap on really tight put it back so nobody ever knows you know put the good stuff away again you know and if josh jacobs is out for a while like we'll see because that is a dude that plays through injuries i think as much as anyone and he returned from this injury at first wasn't quite the same when it was emmanuel wilson out there but yeah well before we go to the giant side uh there was also a great jordan love throw to uh Savion Williams that I did want to highlight too. I don't know if it's a throw of the year nominee or anything like that, but if you're watching it again, it was on that touchdown drive late.

56:50He had all the time in the world, Jordan love and he just does what Jordan love does. while under total pressure throws it in the bucket, he is a fun dude to watch.

56:58Patrick Claybon:When you put the Jordan love reel on all of these throws that he makes are all fadeaways. Yeah. Like he's not stepping into any of them and it almost feels like, like you can see Jordan Love in his body language before he does this. So he's like, watch this. And he throws this leaning back ball where I think one of his other touchdowns was a fadeaway as well. Yeah. Michael Parsons in this game has seven quick pressures, nine pressures overall, two sacks, four total quarterback hits. He was awesome, but Jameis played really well. They got rid of the ball pretty quickly. The offensive line, I thought, for the Giants played well and kind of won that battle for the most part.

57:34They ran hard. He just gave them a chance. It's why I don't kill the Packers too much because a lot of these plays were like tough screens where they evade a lot of tacklers. Maybe they could have tackled better or like third window throws to Jameis Winston. The one thing I would, you know, go against the Packers defense was they got to catch the interceptions that Jameis tries to throw them, which did happen a couple of times.

57:56Jourdan Rodrigue:I don't I just don't. I also don't think people understand quite how difficult it is to go against a play caller who you've basically have no tape on like a little bit. sure and then maybe like some intel from the senior bowl or something that he that he coached that Kafka coached but yeah it is so difficult it is such a tendency breaker but for your entire game plan so I am not surprised to see them struggle a little bit I think that's an outlier after we've seen this defense improve significantly and obviously they're deploying Parsons the way that they should be and it's incredible to watch he he the place he made today is the reason especially late in the game is the reason you go out and trade for a guy like absolutely especially on a day where they couldn't stop the run very well.

58:36I did think Kafka provided a little bit of a bump. It all seemed a little more cohesive, especially the running game was good. Pretty close.

58:43Patrick Claybon:Was on the late GDL today with Mark Ross, who, of course, you know, was a part of those Giants teams that won Super Bowl. So he's very familiar with the team. And instantly, when he saw that Jameis interception, he's like, that's why Jalen Hyatt doesn't play a lot of football. And that's probably an indictment of, you know, Coach Kafka figuring things out, but also the injuries to Darius Slayton. I think like Wandel left for a couple of plays in this game where really the options were very limited for the Giants. Like I imagine if Darius Slayton is in that position of Jalen Hyatt, we may be having a different conversation.

59:17The leading receiver, every key third down conversion was by Isaiah Hodgins who has been buried on the depth chart all season. And but I'm glad you pointed that out because justice for Jameis, that was totally Hyatt giving up on a route was totally befuddling because he was supposed to go to the outside there. but it was kind of ironic because Jameis did throw two or three into the Packers chest earlier. So he got caught eventually. Let's go with the Packers winning that game and staying very much in the mix in the NFC North, in the NFC wildcard to Atlanta, where the Panthers are trying to stay alive.

59:52Patrick Claybon:Young to snap as time throws to tremble, makes the catch of the 35, stiff arm 40, has room, there goes Tommy down the right sideline across midfield. He's got the 30 to 20. Tommy Tremble. Tommy Tremble with the thunder.

1:00:07Nick Shook:All the way to the 16-yard line. Oh, and you got a name like Tommy Tremble. You bring the thunder. 53 yards in overtime. The Panthers win 30 to 27. That was Anish Shroff on WRFX. X. Man, Bryce Young on a day where they couldn't run the ball at all. Patrick, he finishes with 448 yards, three touchdowns, and, yes, gets the ball to tremble there to set up the game-winning field goal.

1:00:42Patrick Claybon:And it's a franchise record. It erases that Cam Newton week two game against the Green Bay Packers in 2011. It was rookie season Cam. Second game of his career. 432 passing yards. Forget about all that. Panthers fans because Bryce did it and actually we can look back at the game one quarter of the size yeah the we can look back at the game the 30 to nothing game as an aberration because now three of the last four times the Carolina Panthers have played the Atlanta Falcons the game has gone to overtime and it was just a crazy sequence in this game between a 25 year old quarterback and a 24 year old quarterback where the long-term viability was both on the line, Jordan, according to our dear friend, Greg Rosenthal.

1:01:27Patrick Claybon:And they started off without having okay drive. The whole rest of the season, but this was a big game of setting that up. In football. It was big. The whole rest of the season. There's give and take. But this was a big one. This was nice. So on one of the opening possessions, Panthers go for it. Very aggressive. Dave Canales throughout this game. Four from two. They get 21 yards to Leggett. They later on get a Tedderola McMillan touchdown. The Panthers were up early. And then it was the 2025 Falcons. a drive that was exclusively Michael Penix Jr. to Drake London, other than Bijan going in from four yards out.

1:01:59Patrick Claybon:Later in the game, after it's tied 7-7, Panthers get the ball, and you see the bad Panthers offense, where Bryce sees Billy Bowman indicating pressure early on in the play clock, makes a check, and I'm not sure what happened. Either the protection slid the wrong way, or Bryce forgot about Billy Bowman. Either way, he hits Bryce and he leaves the game. Andy Dalton comes in briefly. Bryce comes back, thankfully, and goes on to have this legendary game. And then on the other side, Michael Penix Jr. leaves this game with a knee injury. And so you get Kirk Cousins. And when Penix leaves the game, the Falcons actually have the lead.

1:02:41Patrick Claybon:And they get, I think, two first downs with Kirk Cousins at quarterback. and I said it as soon as Pinnix went the whole rest of the game. Yeah, it was it was a rough performance. If I'll give you the specific stats as to not, you know, be smirch the Atlanta Falcons in their offense. Yeah, the field goal drive that they had before the one that that tied it up late or was only a four play five yard drive. So he did not do anything on that two field goals on five drives for Cousins. He's got no passing touchdowns on 52 attempts and coming in relief of Michael Penix Jr. And the Panthers avoid those big mistakes.

1:03:21Patrick Claybon:They're able to get the plays that they need. And the Falcons, when they didn't get pressure on Bryce Young, he was pretty automatic in terms of the way this past game operated. Hit Leggett on a big touchdown where, you know, the career viability of Bryce Young, Greg, goes back. Oh, I deserve it. I deserve it.

1:03:39Jourdan Rodrigue:The pendulum swings, Greg. I deserve it. I saw. Greg was out here projecting him onto his next team. I tweet. We still got the rest of the season go, but this, yeah, these are the type of games. And I saw a tweet that called Bryce young selectively elite, which I thought was perfect. I love that. Because when you watch Bryce young on the right day and the right throws, like he looks incredible, but it's, it hasn't been consistent enough this season. You mentioned, you know, Penix left the game afterwards. They said it was his left knee. It was a strange comment from Raheem Morris. He said he could have, possibly gone back in, but also it didn't look great.

1:04:18So they wanted to stick with Kirk Cousins there. And then Drake London, who also went out in overtime. The Falcons got the ball first, and they went three and out. But then London had a re-injury, and then they declared about it's reportedly not serious, according to Ian Rappaport. So that is some small good news for the Falcons who, remember, Jordan, we're once 3-2 this season with a prime time win over the Buffalo Bills and it has been a nightmare since then, five straight losses.

1:04:50Jourdan Rodrigue:It feels like many, many years ago that we were celebrating not just how awesome this Falcon team looked against the Bills, but just how complete of an attack on both sides of the ball it looked like. And you said it, first of all, when you said inconsistent, that is the Falcons. And they fluctuate. Their highs are getting lower and their lows are getting lower as well. And I think especially when you factor in injuries and then you hit on it too and you said the injury is not serious. Well, that also describes this Falcons team. They're not serious to me. This is an unserious football team. You are not serious people.

1:05:27Patrick Claybon:I mean, Penix left the game. He was 13 to 16 with 175 passing. Facilitating an offense that had scored 21 points to that. And I think he stays in. The game goes to overtime anyway with Kirk Cousins and the offense essentially doing nothing. taking advantage of some Panthers' mistakes where I... This is a game where the quarterback gets hurt. Yeah. And like 10 points combined in the last three losses for the Atlanta Falcons where like, I know like horseshoes and hand grenades and all that. And you'd like to get some wins, but... Back-to-back overtime losses. But they're finding different types of ways.

1:06:06They also, you know, got blown out by the Dolphins and weren't particularly competitive with the 49ers. So it's like they're finding many different ways. And I'd have to watch it closer to know this, but they held Rico Dowdle to a 25 % success rate, at least the Panthers, as a team. It's almost like they were daring Bryce to beat him, and they didn't do it. And Bryce, look, he's cool under pressure, and he's a guy who is going to deliver when asked, just like our friend Patrick Claibon. And I got to think, like, Patrick Claibon was making, if you're watching our show on YouTube, this kind of motion, this kind of look.

1:06:43Oh, my God. When Bryce Young hit that touchdown late in the game. And yes, this is a game day live promo where... Can you describe it, Patrick? You're pointing at the camera and you're a little mischievous.

1:06:59Patrick Claybon:I am an awkward person when I'm taking pictures. I have no idea what to do with my hands. And the person stands there and they just keep clicking the button. and I'm like, well, what the f*** am I supposed to do? And so like, I point.

1:07:14Jourdan Rodrigue:Selectively elite.

1:07:15Patrick Claybon:Yeah. And this is the picture that they choose to go on the graphic and like Steve Smith Sr. is standing there all prim and proper. Mark Ross, who is the most fashionable man in America, is adjusting, you know, the bottom of his shirt and Rhett looks great. And for some reason, this goofy jerk is pointing at the top of both fingers. I love it every minute and I like to imagine Imagine that that's the look that Patrick gave when Bryce Young found Tetaroa McMillan late in the fourth quarter. Let's take a break by listening to this call, and we'll be back on the other side with a little NFC West magic.

1:07:54Patrick Claybon:15 on the clock. Got third and goal from the 12. Young looking around, looking. He'll take off to the run. Now throws to the end zone.

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1:12:13Patrick Claybon:Back-to-back big plays from CMC. Under center Purdy. Toss play to McCaffrey. To the right side. Cuts back left. Weaves his way into the end zone. Not once, not twice, but thrice for McCaffrey. Touchdown, 49ers. Feel like we haven't heard Justin Allegri too often over the years. Must be a backup there on KNBR, and he's stepping up in a big spot, and so did the 49ers today. 41-22 on a record-setting day for Jacoby Brissett. Congratulations to Jacoby Brissett, who broke a real-deal record that had stood for over 30 years. Jacoby Brissett completed more passes in an NFL football game than anyone has in any game ever.

1:13:0147 out of 57 for Brissett for 452, and yet they were not competitive for most of this game. or really any of this game. A lot of good signs for the 49ers before we get to the Cardinals side of it. I think you heard it there in the call with CMC. It was almost like after they didn't use him a ton for one week, he had more juice. Just thought he ran with better aggression and maybe it was the lanes were opening up, but I thought he was great today. I thought George Kittle had a little more juice than we've seen, certainly as a receiver, six for 67 and dragging defenders on a couple first downs. And then, yeah, it was just great to see Brock Purdy back in the mix.

1:13:41Don't think it was much different than him and Mac Jones. If anything, he got away with a couple turnover-worthy plays. Oh, it's just true. I was surprised. I know.

1:13:50Jourdan Rodrigue:You just couldn't wait. You could not wait to say that. You couldn't wait to say it. Greg wants a controversy so bad. I don't want a controversy at all. No, he just loves Mac. I just don't understand why it has to come at Brock's expense. Go watch this one. I was shocked it was this low, but I was like, I bet his grade in PFF is not that good for this game. And it was like 59. It was significantly lower than you would have expected. And lower than Bursette. But he played fine. They were wide open. Yes. Yes. You can find ways to criticize people without tearing down other people, Greg. Comparison.

1:14:25It's the thief of joy. That's what they say.

1:14:27Patrick Claybon:I mean, there's also the capacity of getting the players in the right position. Yes. Making the checks at the line of scrimmage. Christian McCaffrey had one of his better days on the ground, facilitating the return of Ricky Pearsall, who ran more routes than Christian McCaffrey. George Kittle ran more routes than Christian McCaffrey. So CMC, who breaks an NFL record through 10 weeks with touches. And I understand he was very involved in the game today, not involved to the extent that he has been. And so, as you pointed out, Greg, you take a little pressure in terms of the volume of carrying the football and getting hit by people that Christian has faced, where I think the team looked a little better with Brock than they have all seen.

1:15:10Patrick Claybon:Some of the advanced checks, too.

1:15:11Jourdan Rodrigue:I mean, I'm not trying to say it was simpler. Mac Jones was pushing the ball. He should be applauded for that. But some of the more advanced checks and tags that they were getting into, you know, I didn't see this entire game, but I did see clips, some clips of it where you could tell that McCaffrey, Kittle, veteran players who are used to this offense are more comfortable getting into those a little bit more complicated looks with Brock Purdy because he's been there. He knows more levels to it. Yeah. The only thing I was getting at was just that this was a full team performance. Their run game success has been so bad all season and it was over 50 % today.

1:15:47They were consistent throughout the day. They hit their first 20-yard run of the season. I couldn't believe that. They were the last team, if you were curious, to not have a 20-yard run. I mean, they made it to week 11. It was a CMC burst up the middle. And sometimes it is about the defenses taking advantage of mistakes because Jacoby had one bad interception, one that wasn't as bad early, but the 49ers made plays on the ball. And Purdy gave the Cardinals a couple chances early in this game and they dropped both of those chances and their defense in Arizona to me is is worry time here for Jonathan Gannon because you go to Jacoby Brissett but he's a defensive coach their defense is getting worse throughout the course of this season and you can you know talk about the injuries and they didn't have Marvin Harrison Jr.

1:16:37either on offense the offense has been like okay like it's really not about the offense their defense really wasn't up for the fight today or last week and it's getting worse and they're no longer losing those like close games they're losing games where they're getting blown out in the division and are just so clearly fourth behind behind these other two three great teams and it's worse as the season's gone on to

1:16:58Patrick Claybon:the extent where um you know this this happens a few weeks ago maybe we feel different about the arizona cardinals uh but we felt good about them where we thought like hey maybe the seahawks figured out this whole run game thing and it turns out maybe this was the cardinals defense a little bit on the decline where I know like Brock being back made everything better for the 49ers but to to have this game from Jacoby Brissett and yeah he didn't play perfect uh but considering like what what they were up against uh in in terms of what they needed to do to score the football is it was a great uh great Jacoby game where he's he's a couple drives and turnovers away from throwing from right and I don't buy that it was all meaningless I know it was pretty quickly like 25 to 10, but they were showing that they were going to move the ball the whole day.

1:17:44So if the defense had ever stood up just a little bit for them, the Cardinals defense, I think Jacoby could have gotten them back in this game. Shout out to Trey McBride, who is just getting in all sorts of fights and annoying people and getting penalties and goes over a hundred yards. But Michael Wilson goes 15 for 185 in this game. Shout out to the fantasy streamers out there that were bold enough to play Michael Wilson.

1:18:07Patrick Claybon:Got a chance to be the wide receiver one with no touchdowns, which would be a crazy stat line. That is incredible.

1:18:15Jourdan Rodrigue:Order and balance has been restored to the NFC West. The 49ers are back-ish. At least their offenses. And the Seahawks and the Rams are dominant. And then there's the Cardinals. And to close my Gannon point, they had 17 penalties today. That was the most of any team in the NFL since 2019. and they had them all, I think, in the first 46 minutes of this game. They were basically the first three quarters of this game. They had 17 penalties, so that does not speak well for the coaching. Good day for a couple teams battling at the bottom of the wildcard race, the Panthers and the 49ers, and they made it a whole lot harder for teams like the Vikings or really anyone else to try to sneak into that race.

1:19:03All right, let's go over to the AFC, where the Texans haven't given up on this season yet.

1:19:07Nick Shook:Here's the spot. Here's the kick. It's good! The Texans win it at the buzzer, and they get back to 500. They drive down the field for the game-winning field goal. Houston, 5-5. I love a call from Mark Vandermeer, KILT, that provides a little context. three out of four in terms of wins for the Houston Texans. These last two came with Davis Mills at quarterback. They win 16 to 13. Jordan in a game that caused you to groan a lot.

1:19:45Jourdan Rodrigue:Sure did. But not in a positive way. Nope. Thanks for clarifying that. Cam Ward did everything he could with a depleted receivers room to tie this extremely gross game at 13 all. In fact, let's roll this video while I'm talking of his throw to tight end Chigo Conquo. It's a third and long after a false start, of course, and then Ward takes a sack, of course, but he breaks out this beautiful, beautiful deep shot. Oh, how many great throws has he made this year? It is just gorgeous, and it's sort of the story of his rookie season. It sets the Titans up for the game-tying touchdown, and I turn to my left and I say to Greg, Greg, if this game goes into overtime, I'm going to walk into the lake at SoFi.

1:20:32Oh, how rude.

1:20:33Jourdan Rodrigue:But we should have known that Davis Allen had the Titans right where he wanted them. He completed a gorgeous third and 16 pass, better catch by Nico Collins, who gets 17 yards, needed 16, toe taps it on the sideline, eventually sets up the game winning field goal that you heard at the top of the call. And the best thing I can further add about this game is that it is now over. Oh, how rude. Almost as rude as when he got the ball, Davis Mills, with a chance to go win the game. You said, legacy drive time for Davis. And I thought, you are so unfamiliar with this man's game. I mean, his win with Lovie Smith as his coach, the game that the Texans didn't want him to win to knock them out of the number one seed and eventually have CJ Stroud.

1:21:22Bryce Young probably would have been a Houston Texan if not for that win, was part of three game-winning drives back in 2022. The only three games the Texans won that year were game-winning drives by Davis Mills, and now he's done it twice in a row here.

1:21:37Jourdan Rodrigue:As I'm saying, he defines his legacy. He's just cementing it as a guy who you can trust in the clutch. And that is not a stretch.

1:21:44Patrick Claybon:In a game where, you know, in Jordan's defense, because Greg was watching the, you know, Drew Brees on the call in a Jameis game. Oh, I forgot to talk about that. Malik Willis is coming in. I'm watching this calculator bowl between Baker Mayfield and Josh Allen. And Jordan's over there like, hey guys, want to guess what the score is in Nashville?

1:22:04Jourdan Rodrigue:I guess what the score is.

1:22:06Patrick Claybon:We're like, that game exists?

1:22:07Jourdan Rodrigue:Yeah. By halftime, these two quarterbacks had only completed 23 passes between them. The Texans' best drive on offense was their first possession until the game-winning field goal set up at the end. They did move the ball, but they turned it over on downs like right at the goal line. And then the Texans defense just did the thing that they are always asked to do and have to do and must do and are equipped to do, which was set up the team to salt the game away when they were up there, but 13 to six on multiple occasions. And it was back to back to back Houston series, defensive series in the fourth quarter, a sack fumble by Will Anderson Jr.

1:22:41Jourdan Rodrigue:And then a sack by Daniel Hunter and then a tackle for loss on a third of medium screen with about 10 minutes left. all the Texans had to do was just like truly salt this away. But the Texans already showed they can't really do that even with C.J. Stratton quarterback. So this was like a reverse salting in which the defense just kept shortening the time of possession and just kept giving them more bites at the apple. And they couldn't do it until finally they almost had no other choice. And they had to go down and set up a field goal because Cam Ward had made an unbelievable play on the other side.

1:23:18So they're 5-5. They're tied with the Chiefs. They're tied with a Ravens team we're about to talk about with Nick Shook in just a little bit. And I do like, because this defense to me, it's nice to have one defense that you just know what you're getting every week that truly is that awesome, which is why I give a lot of credit to the Titans today. Maybe not a lot, but they kept the pressure rate super low on Cam Ward. They had no running game to speak of, and yet their success rate and the ability to hit that drive at the end, like that shows some progress that they were able to do some positive things.

1:23:49The Texans are still, they're plus 57 scoring differential on the season. Like there is a team hidden in there that can still do it. And maybe, maybe CJ Stroud will get it done for him. All right, let's go to Madrid. This feels like a long time ago. Very similar in game shape and score to the one we just talked about.

1:24:11Nick Shook:A 29-yard field goal to win it for the 3-7 Miami Dolphins. Ball is down, kick is up, and it is good.

1:24:21Patrick Claybon:Walk-off for Riley Patterson. His third field goal of the day, and the Miami Dolphins will leave Spain with a 16-13 victory over the Washington Commanders, knowing that their upcoming schedule after the bye includes the Saints, the Jets, the Steelers and the Bengals. Is this season still alive for the 4-7 Miami Dolphins? The path. I love it. Will Gavin of Talk Sport.

1:24:49Jourdan Rodrigue:Hell yeah. Not for the last time this year because he's going to be doing a show with us on Black Friday. There it is. Yeah. And we have one more call from this game. 16-13. Dolphins win. On one hand, you can see the path for the Dolphins because of the schedule. On the other hand, you could watch this game and not think they've taken a gigantic step forward. I actually think the fourth and one decision, Patrick, by Mike McDaniel to eschew a field goal, to take a lead at the end of regulation when you're inside the five yard line, was the most interesting part of this game. He literally chose to not take the lead.

1:25:33And I thought of Patrick Claiborne in that moment and thought, there are some cases where field goals are good.

1:25:40Patrick Claybon:I think that was one of those cases. No, because you heard it with the end of the first half interview where Dan Quinn said, hey, we're not going to win this game with field goals. We're going to win it with touchdowns. And both coaches in the final moments proved that because three points is not as many points as seven. And nobody wanted to win this game. I told the circumstances forced Mike McDaniel to kick a field goal to win the game, which is something both teams could have done several minutes before. Okay. So for context, the previous drive, the commanders chose not to kick a field goal, not quite as close, but very close on the goal line where Zach Ertz, unfortunately stumbles out of his route and they fail to take the lead.

1:26:21It was a game that started actually with both teams going on super long drives, wanting to go for it on fourth down, and then both having delay of game penalties so that they couldn't, even do it. It was all tough. And the reason why I really did not like that call, even before, I promise, was that they couldn't convert in short yardage all day. So sometimes you got to have a feel of your team. This was not a good short yardage team, the Miami Dolphins, no matter if they ignored offensive coordinator Tyree Kill and gave it to Devon Achan in up the middle, a play that Tyree Kill hates, or gave it to Ollie Gordon or had to a throw.

1:26:59Their short yardage was a disaster all day or they would have won this game much easier but they didn't because they wanted to keep everyone watching nfl network stretch it out stretch it out yeah that's why

1:27:10Jourdan Rodrigue:sure totally um i posited the the query maybe um messy fun team maybe kind of on the verge of being a dolphin the miami dolphins because definitely messy you know will gavin said it as eloquently as he always does, there is a path. We've been sort of hinting at it and talking about it. There is a path for this Miami Dolphins to at least keep things interesting down the stretch. And it starts with going a billion miles away and winning a game as gross as this was. And nobody seemed to actually want to win this game for a significant portion of it. I don't know. there's something about they're just not quitting.

1:27:56Jourdan Rodrigue:They're just not quitting. And you know what? Mike McDaniel is far from this frazzled despondent. Like he's not, you know, late season injury riddled Kyle Shanahan right now. He is. He's like sitting in press conferences and asking Ollie Gordon questions right behind your, your friend, Henry Hodgson. He's, he's driving the car past the bills, a thing, past the bills, sports bar. He's doing bits like this, This guy is at least going, if he's going to go out, he's going out in style on his terms. And that makes for possibly a messy fun team here. And I just can't. They just have to avoid stubbing their toe.

1:28:33And they probably should have today.

1:28:35Jourdan Rodrigue:I have such a soft spot for McDaniel too. And like, I just, you know what? I can't quit this team. I just can't.

1:28:40Patrick Claybon:Well, the team needs to quit because this isn't a this year type thing. In goal to go situations where the Dolphins need short yardage, it's either galaxy brain mess or like, well, I'm sure we bring in our power back and we'll get it this time where it's like, this is, this is multiple years where they haven't been able to be successful in that capacity. And there's no, there's no, there, there, there's no place where they can lean on it. It's like, Oh, we'll try to get H and the ball with some blockers around and hope he can make a play. They just, they can't do it.

1:29:12Jourdan Rodrigue:They can't control when the gummy hits when, yeah, when they're in year four of also barely getting to the line of scrimmage in time and then it's so stressful watching them to a motioning someone with two seconds left on the play clock and I swear they hit zeros on the play clock and it should have been called for about 17 delay games I'm just like stop motioning them with two seconds just hurry up to a hurry up coaches they're so done with it Patrick's got his head in his hands Greg's voice is raising and I'm like give it to me yes uh Javon H and though he had 165 yards in this game of the team's 311 yards.

1:29:47They ran for 169 yards overall. He is freaking awesome. Shout out to Marcus Mariota, who threw a regrettable interception in overtime. Before that, if it had just been regulation, played a really good game, I thought. But before overtime, apparently, Jack Jones told the front seven, Jordan Brooks, if y 'all stop the run, he's going to throw me the ball because he can't throw. And it was a bad interception. Marcus doesn't deserve that. He doesn't really deserve that. But Jack Jones was saying the Raiders should have never gotten rid of him on Twitter. He might have been having some of those postgame brews or something from the sound of it.

1:30:23Before we leave this game and we leave the International Series, congratulations to Henry Hodgson and the entire international crew. Biggest slate ever. Seven games. And yes, he now is getting memed in a picture of Mike McDaniel in that press conference. Let's also listen to one last Will Gavin call. This was the Debo Samuel touchdown early. Debo Samuel going in motion from left to right two receivers to the right now one to the left literally the third quarter

1:30:52Nick Shook:he's got an angle to the five to the end zone touchdown Commanders a 20 yard across the formation run to Debo Samuel

1:31:03Patrick Claybon:on the quick pass and we have a first ever touchdown on Spanish soil and it goes to Washington oh I just love the way he says commando fun day we learned how Patrick likes to point we learned how Jordan is not so secretly becoming a Rams fan I don't know you were into that game why do people do this

1:31:28Jourdan Rodrigue:that's the thing 12 years as a beat writer of various teams and I never got to be like enjoy a team I mean I enjoyed all of them but I never got to truly and just even dipping my toe into the waters. Stressful. Not for me. It's very stressful. Not for me. You know who's cool under pressure? It's Nick Shuck. We're going to hit those games next. We're going to say goodbye to Patrick and Jordan. Let's go to Cleveland. It's fourth and one from the Cleveland 35. The decision is made.

1:31:58Nick Shook:They'll go for it. Push, push, formation. Mark Andrews under center. Takes the snap. Wheels out. He rolls on his own. He's in the 30. Andrews to the 20. 10. five touchdown Ravens. Oh, what a creative call. And Mark Andrews goes from the push push to the big man sprint and the Ravens have the lead. Oh, smiles all around for Ravens coaches, Ravens fans and Rod Woodson with his homage to Chris Wesley in there. He gone. That was also Jerry Sandusky on WBAL. That was one of the coolest play calls of the day. Yes, Mark Andrews with the longest touchdown run for a tight end. Follow me here. Since Jackie Smith in 1968.

1:32:48That great stat was by Josh Dubow of the Associated Press. The Ravens hold on to that lead to win 23 to 16 in a complicated game. Shook that included a lot of Shadur Sanders after halftime. You can start this recap wherever you want because a lot went on in this game.

1:33:08Nick Shook:Oh, wow. Actually, you know what? Given the chance to start it anywhere, I'm not exactly sure where I'll go. There was one sequence in this game, Greg, where we almost got interception, interception, interception on back-to-back-to-back plays on three straight plays. That's right. That kind of just typifies how weird of a game this was. The Browns' defense forces a couple of interceptions, turnovers via interceptions. Lamar's stat line looks worse than he was, but he wasn't great. The Browns' offense is still the worst in the NFL, no matter who's playing quarterback. and ultimately Baltimore did what they do, which is they go into the fourth quarter of what is essentially a rock fight and they find a way to get it done with a creative play call on fourth and one where they show as if they're going to sneak and instead Mark Gagers goes around the end and proves just how athletic he is outrunning Carson Swesner to the end zone.

1:33:51Nick Shook:And that's it. That's the difference. The Bravens win. They've won their fourth in a row. They are right on the Steelers heels and everything is as it should be. Right. It's a game if the people out there weren't watching and I don't think many were because that was a spicy late game window where you had a great 405 game that's kind of overshadowing the national game, which is Patrick Mahomes going against the Broncos. And then there's this game too. They were trailing 16-10 going into the fourth. And it's not like they did it quickly. They actually tied the game on two field goal drives, the second of which was under five minutes to go.

1:34:27So they're trailing under five minutes to go before they finally take that lead with Mark Andrews. You mentioned his stat line for Lamar wasn't great because he had the two interceptions, both off deflected passes. Those were kind of bad luck. But ultimately, you know, the Browns defense did more than their job. Miles Garrett with four sacks is, it's just getting crazy what Miles Garrett is doing. But I got to ask, because I did not watch it late. How was the Shador Sanders experience? And was it as bad as the box score looked four for 16? for 47 yards, an interception and two sacks taken by Shadur came in at halftime after Dylan Gabriel suffered a concussion.

1:35:09Nick Shook:The, the interception rivaled the Justin Fields interception that was thrown last week against the Browns is one of the worst of the year, but he was also under the board, Eric. I know we're not going to watch it right now, but put it on the board. Yeah. Yeah. Keep it in mind. Cause it was, he perfectly split his two receivers and the guy between his two receivers was Nate Wiggins for an interception. He was under a lot of pressure, but he did a lot of what I thought he would do. If you watch the Browns in their preseason game against the Rams and he came in and he just held onto the ball forever and forever and forever and took a bunch of sacks folks then chalked it up to, well, he's playing with a bunch of guys who aren't going to be on the offensive line in a couple of weeks.

1:35:41Nick Shook:I'm not even going to be on the roster in a couple of weeks, but you saw a lot of that tonight too. And that's kind of indicative of the Browns offense as a whole. They get a third and long. Every team is blitzing them. Every team sending additional rushers after them because they know that they can't hold up long enough to protect either of these guys. And these guys aren't capable of throwing the ball down the field. Gabriel because of arm, you know, lack of arm strength should or because he doesn't decide quick enough. He just holds onto the ball too long. I think his average time to throw was north of three seconds, which is not good when you are a pocket passer.

1:36:09Nick Shook:If you're a play extender, if you can be a Jalen hurts and move around and survey and that sort of thing, that's okay. That's passable. That is not okay for Shadour Sanders. So it was his first start. It came at the second half. Uh, and you could understand if he was, you know, not maybe entirely mentally just ready to go. Cause you just get thrown in there. Um, and he did do a couple of good things. He threw a really nice first pass when he took the field. He scrambled for a first down for five yards, which was the Browns first third down conversion of the day. And one of only two for the whole day, terrible offense.

1:36:37Nick Shook:And he had a good throw in the fourth quarter in that last drive. But ultimately he's, he doesn't make any difference just like Dylan Gabriel doesn't make any difference. It's a bad offense. Yeah. The offensive line is so brutal. And you mentioned the good throw. He had a 25 yard or up the, up the seam to fan in and they didn't Jerry Judy makes a couple of guys miss on a short throw on a third and 10. And actually, just a couple plays later, he does have a chance to be the hero. Shader Sanders is rolling out on kind of a scramble drill. Has Isaiah Bond pretty open for a potential touchdown. It's not a play where you can set your feet and it's going to look beautiful so you don't kill him.

1:37:12But he did have a moment where it's like he could have been the hero and capped an incredible drive. He missed that throw by quite a bit. And then, yeah, they end up not getting the first down a couple plays later. Are we concerned at all? And I know it was against Cleveland. So maybe that answers it, that the Ravens offense during this winning streak, and they've won four in a row. They're now five and five. Still hasn't really looked like the Ravens offense to me. Shook, are you concerned? Yeah.

1:37:42Nick Shook:We go back to that Miami game. Was that a Thursday night or Thursday night? Okay. And because I know we did a show about it and they ended up with, you know, Lamar ends up with four touchdowns and they kind of got together in the second half, but it was very much like just in big spurts. Like it wasn't consistent over the course of that game, the Miami game or not Miami, the Minnesota game last week was pretty ugly. It was, it was like a 47 minute condensed replay despite being 27 to 19. And as I started, I go, there's no way. And then I get into the fourth quarter. I'm like, now I see how we got the 47 minutes, which is long for a condensed game.

1:38:12Nick Shook:So, and it was, they struggled again tonight, but the Browns defense is very good. I am a little concerned, but I'm really not that concerned with Lamar's play. He's just been a little touch off in the accuracy department. Their running game has not been as consistent as I would like. Now, Derek Henry became the first rusher to break 100 yards against the Browns defense this season. So hat tip to him. But it's not a constant presence for them. They're just not in a rhythm right now, which you expect when you miss your quarterback for so many weeks. I would imagine over the next month they are going to get it together.

1:38:37Nick Shook:They also play, I believe the Jets are on the schedule next, and then the Bengals. They'll probably get right in those two games, and we won't be worried. So that's why I'm not too worried. Yeah, they avoided a landmine tonight. This would have been a huge loss. They don't have Rashad Bateman out there. They're not really getting the secondary receivers. involved too much. And yeah, as I mentioned, Myles Garrett, four sacks on the day. One of, I believe, only five players ever to have three four sack games in his career. He now has 15 on the season. Michael Strahan, watch. He's got a chance to go try to set the single season record.

1:39:11Let's go to Pittsburgh. Let's stay in the division, the team that the Ravens are trying to catch.

1:39:17Nick Shook:Flacco gets a snap back to pass Jitters bringing five Flacco Over the middle of the field it's picked off It's Duggar, Duggar to the 40 yard line Racing across the 50 to the 40 Looking for a block from Herbing Gets it streaking down the left sideline Makes chase miss and waltzes into the end zone Duggar a 72 yard interception return For a touchdown for the Steelers Oh Kyle Duggar the pickup of the year take the glass slipper off of joe flacco and see if it fits for kyle duggar he's made a pretty big difference considering they gave up a sixth the seventh round pick swap for him 34 to 12 steelers win this game going away even though for most of it it felt like it was more of a defensive struggle than we expected nick shook yeah uh and do you know, frankly, you got to give the Bengals defense a bit of credit because for the first time in ages, they were keeping the Bengals in the game because their offense wasn't their offense was struggling mightily to finish drives.

1:40:21Nick Shook:It was, it was very much a defensive battle here. And yet the way this game kind of devolved and then, you know, went in the favor of the Steelers makes me think this may be the one that buries the Bengals permanently. And it's because on a day that you get a good defensive performance, like this final score suggests that, oh, they gave up 30 plus again, defensively. No, it was two defensive touchdowns. Like the defense did a good enough job to keep him in this game but instead it was the Steelers defense making a difference classic Steelers play their cover one Robert Kyle Duggars playing the robbery he's running down underneath and an inexplicable interception you know thrown by Joe Flacco and then they maximize that a close game that became a blowout beat became a bit of a laugher and I think again could be one of those final nails in the Bengals coffin yeah with four minutes to go in this game the Steelers offense which had Mason Rudolph at quarterback starting in the second half of this game because Aaron Rodgers suffered what Adam Schefter is referring to as a small break, I believe, in his left wrist.

1:41:24I don't know. I mean, I know there's different severities in everything, but a break is a break. That's not a good sign. Mason Rudolph is at quarterback. Before that last four-minute stretch, the Steelers offense only had 13 points. It was just off that pick six plus another 13. And then eventually the door gets knocked over by Kenneth Gainwell and Mason Rudolph and Darnell Washington in a game that was spicy. Tell us a little bit about the Jamar Chase fracas, I'll say, with Jalen Ramsey.

1:41:58Nick Shook:Yeah, this game was... Look, okay, first off, it's AFC North with Nick Shook this week, which is great. So let me bring you into the AFC North corner here and understand to help you understand why these teams hate each other so much. Okay. Cincinnati, little brother in the division for a long time. Pittsburgh always represented one of the, you know, Kings, the division, them in Baltimore, Cincinnati has always wanted to be there and they got there over the last few years, but they feel themselves slipping out of that right now in a division. That's very much for the taking. So you go to Sunday and the Bengals need a win.

1:42:26Nick Shook:They've won once with Joe Flacco as their starter. They're desperate for one. The Steelers are desperate to prove that. No, we're not blowing our lead in the AFC North. we are going to prove that we're better than the Bengals. It's chippy. And it gets chippy in the second half where after Jalen Ramsey blasts, uh, Jamar chase on an incomplete pass and they have, you know, they exchanged some words. I'm like, keep an eye on that. Cause both of those guys like to talk a lot of trash. Well, eventually they start talking trash in a sequence here. Now, mind you this play here in the, in the second half is a key fourth down one in which it seemed like the Bengals were just bluffing and they weren't actually going to go for it.

1:42:56Nick Shook:They were going to punt in the stoppage of play. after the Bengals call a timeout, Jamar chase and Jalen Ramsey get into a bit of a scuffle. And it's not the first time that these teams were brought together. And you're, what you're seeing right now, if you watch on YouTube is Ramsey throwing punches, grabs the face mask with his left hand, throws a right cross that gets him ejected. And then we think, wow, Jalen Ramsey just flew off the handle. No, what we find out later is that for the second time this season, at least to my memory, somebody decided to spit on somebody else. And that's what caused the fracas Jamar Chase spitting on Jalen Ramsey.

1:43:31Nick Shook:He denied it after the game. So I didn't spit on anybody, but you can, there's very clear field level video that he spit on Jalen Ramsey. Yeah. If you want it to be generous to Jamar Chase, you could say he was so out of his mind in that moment that he legitimately forgot that he did it or convinced himself that he didn't actually do it. But unfortunately there's video of it and he definitely did it, which means for the Bengals, Jamar Chase is almost certainly going to be suspended for the next game. Right? I think we established a precedent when it comes to Jalen Carter in the first game of this season.

1:44:03And Jalen Ramsey also explained earlier a few plays before, I think exactly the play before, that Chase had actually grabbed Ramsey's mouth guard out. And Ramsey was saying, look, I'm all for trash talking. I love trash talking. You know, he grabbed my mouth guard and so we got into it. But whatever. Then we just started trash talking again. but when he spit, yeah, no bueno. He couldn't take it anymore. And it was on a day that was extremely frustrating for Jamar Chase. Only three catches on 10 targets for 30 yards. And I just expected this Joe Flacco story, how everything been great. Not that he was like awful in this game to just run out a little bit of steam at some point.

1:44:46And he's a guy who just has struggled against pressure. And he was six of 12 for 58 yards with an interception and some sacks in there. under pressure today. Wasn't good enough. Before we leave this game, I do want to give some love to our guy, Darnell Washington, who, man, we've been putting him in the spotlight all season. In Dublin, I thought he was the player of the game. I think he's putting together an Offensive Player of the Year candidacy with plays like this.

1:45:09Nick Shook:So Rodgers, in the shotgun, has Gainwell to his right. 51 seconds remaining as he gets a snap. Back to pass. Looking. Fires over the middle of the field. Complete to Darnell Washington. Oh, he shoved down a man! And then lowers his shoulder! rumbling down the left sideline. He shrugged him off with his stiff arm and got down the left sideline inside the 35-yard line of the Bengals out of the 31. No Jake break on that semi-trailer, fellas. That was a runaway truck ramp. Darnell Washington, stiff arm's the first guy, lowers the boom on Gito Stone, stays on the tightrope, and then smoked the third defender.

1:45:47That is an all-timer. They make these videos shook that they put on NFL plus or whatever, like the, like the craziest stiff arms in history. Like it's going to make that list, but then to finish it off by running over Gino stone, that is one of the all time. I'm the man plays like in NFL history. I love me some Darnell Washington who by the way, also had a play where it was the biggest man I've ever seen hurdle, uh, in opponent. So Darnell Washington is just putting fun on tape and I am here for it. Chuck.

1:46:23Nick Shook:Yeah. Uh, shout out to Kyle Brandt, uh, the master of angry runs. I think you found your winner for 2025. It's the guy where a number 80, they affectionately know him in Pittsburgh as Matt Washington ran over a few guys on that one. There's your winner. And, uh, he also like is a huge part of this passing attack. He had four, four catches for 67 yards. They're, they're not really getting DK Metcalf on track consistently. He did have 49 yards on eight targets, but it was a lot of Kenny Gainwell because Jalen Warren got hurt. It was a lot of Nick Herbig rushing the passer. And yes, it was a lot of Steelers big win for them to stay one game up on the division.

1:46:58Shook is sticking around and we're going to talk about one of the biggest games of a great week 11 slate. Yes. Let's wrap up with Eagles and lions.

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1:51:40Oh, it's tough to find a highlight on Sunday Night Football. But we had to start with that Eagles defense. N 'Kobe Dean with a quarterback sack and another quarterback hit to throw in in a 16-9 performance. That was Merrill Reese and Mike Quick on WIP. And I picked that highlight, Shook, in part because of what happened right afterwards. The Lions didn't snap the ball until they had about five seconds left on the play clock. it was about as close as you'll ever see in an NFL game to an offense just saying I give up too good I don't want to be here anymore we're supposed to be hurrying up here but frankly like we're cold we're not getting any yards anyways why hurry because we're just going to be unsuccessful on our next play anyways that is what they were then they kicked the field goal it didn't matter they weren't getting anything through the air and what a defensive performance on a night Jared Jared Goff finishes 14 of 37 and the Eagles defense carries them to a victory.

1:52:50What stood out to you from this defensive performance?

1:52:53Nick Shook:I mean, that what we saw against the Packers wasn't a fluke, right? That this Eagles defense is for real. And it wasn't just a flash in the pan last week. And it's not just the addition of Jalen Phillips. It's everything coming together at all three levels. You know, you heard Chris Collinsworth kind of rave about their depth throughout this game, but it is true. the performance of N 'Kobe Dean in coverage. N 'Kobe Dean is a rusher. He's just one of many key parts in this defense, and they're all coming together at the perfect time, and it has become the strength of their team. Because, by the way, that final score tells you what you need to know about their offense.

1:53:24Nick Shook:They weren't getting much done offensively either, but it doesn't matter when you have a defense that can absolutely squeeze the life out of a high-powered offense and, like you said, make them wave the white flag. We're ready to get back on the buses, go back to the airport and fly home to Detroit. I couldn't believe it, and it was a great performance by Jameer Gibbs individually. He ends up with 146 yards from scrimmage, making people miss on a couple catch and runs. So Goff's total yardage doesn't look as crazy, but I was looking for the stat that really explained everything in this game. I think the closest I got, well, first of all, Goff's seven for 24 in the second half of this game.

1:54:02It's just, that's crazy for Jared Goff. And yes, a lot of them were against pressure and his numbers against pressure are insane. He went one for 14 in this game against pressure. It's just crazy. But there were a couple throws, too, where he wasn't even pressured, and he was so spooked that he's getting rid of the ball too quickly and dirt in the ball and missing passes. They had a pressure rate of only 41%, which is really high, despite Goff getting rid of the ball quickly and them only blitzing 12 % of the time. So what that tells me is that Jalen Phillips with four pressures in this game, and Mauro Ojomo, who had a number of big plays, and Jalen Carter, who was really good in this game, and yes, Vic Fangio, all were just making it happen, and their defensive line was just way better than the Lions' offensive line, which has had some injuries, and even Sewell was in and out tonight.

1:54:57They won the game, and the trenches shook, and so that way, they didn't even need much out of their offense, which didn't particularly have a good night, but it just wasn't as bad as what the Lions did.

1:55:06Nick Shook:yeah and and winning the game of the trenches of course always warms my heart which is why i know you put that little uh accent on it uh 14 for 37 i did a quick scan right before we started here i believe it's the lowest completion percentage in jared golf's regular season career it's below 40 previous uh low was 43.8 so that we're looking at a historically bad night for jared golf and you're absolutely right he was completely he was seeing ghosts he was essentially seeing goes he was spooked by this pass rush he missing he's missing throws that we see him make all the time I mean and just flat out missing them either high low wide he looked completely lost as to why he was struggling obviously you would think that the weather played a small part in it but I don't think that's really what it was and this whole offense was held back by an Eagles defense that it's crazy to say this but tonight was the first time I thought wow they had all those departures and they might actually end up being better than they were last year we'll see uh and look they're in great position to now go get that one seed which is it's crazy to think about for all the issues that the philadelphia eagles have had this season on offense that continued in this game at one point they their success rate for the night passing the ball and overall was around 30 which is terrible and it was like 25 when they were up 10 points in the fourth quarter they are the number one seed right now in the nfc on you know a tiebreaker with the Rams because they beat the Rams.

1:56:32And it got me thinking, okay, they're the one seed. They're eight and two. They've beaten the following teams this year, Shook. The Lions, the Rams, the Packers, and the Bucks. And oh, by the way, the Chiefs. We threw in there too. The seven and one in the conference. They've basically beaten all the other good teams in the entire league other than the Seahawks. They haven't played the Seahawks. It's crazy. And then we've seen the last couple of weeks that they've basically won the NFC North by taking care of the Packers and the Lions in back-to-back weeks. And yeah, they have a lot to work on on offense.

1:57:06I think the Lions defense did a great job basically backing up Dan Campbell in terms of his fourth down decision. A lot of people are going to get on Dan Campbell for going for over and over on fourth down. They go 0 for 5. One of them was a fake punt, but they turned it over on downs five different times in this game. What do you think about that?

1:57:27Nick Shook:I mean, that's who he is. That's, that's his reputation. He's known across the league for being the guy that goes for it on, on fourth down. I just thought that there were opportunities that they had that they did not cash in. Even the Jared Goff incomplete pass on fourth and goal. He's got a Brock right underneath and he just doesn't, he doesn't see him. He's trying to get the ball because he's getting hit. He's constantly under duress. So I think the execution was poor, but most of the decision-making I thought was completely fine. You know, you, you look at it in hindsight and say, well, if you had a couple of field goals, this would have been a closer game.

1:57:56Nick Shook:Yeah. Well, that's the benefit of hindsight that Dan Campbell is not going to change who he is. I did think that as you saw him on the sideline and his nose was getting progressively redder and redder as it got colder and colder throughout the game, he had this look of like dejection as if like, wow, like I, it almost looked like he felt like he was letting his guys down as if his, the, the plays that he called weren't the right ones. And they were the, the errors or the lack of capitalization and opportunity was just stacking. You could see him kind of just being like, man, almost as lost as Jared Goff was.

1:58:26Nick Shook:So I think, you know, at this point in the season, Lions being six and four, it's not like they needed the reality check. But I do think that this loss here gives them an idea of what they need to work on. It just it does concern me because if you think about who they've played this season, how have they gotten beat by the teams they've gotten beat? It started in week one with the Packers, right? You lose to the Packers because they had this blueprint. They put it out there. How do you beat them? You get after Jared Goff, you move him off a spot, which is not new. But then the Chiefs did something similar.

1:58:51Nick Shook:And then you look at the Eagles. three of their four losses have all been the same formula, which makes me think there's a weakness that they're going to have to figure out how to adjust and fix and protect against. Yeah. It's not a team that's as complete as they were in the past. And you mentioned six and four, it's a different season shaping up to the bears. Yes. The Chicago bears are in first place. We came into the division saying that the season saying this is the best division in football and the bears do have a tough schedule and they're going to get a chance to go try to beat the lines themselves.

1:59:21and the Packers are obviously right there. But the Lions are in second place at 6-3 and then you have the Packers at 6-3-1. So these three teams will be battling and none of them are very likely to get the one seed. That's probably coming down to the NFC West winner or the Philadelphia Eagles.

1:59:41Nick Shook:I love it. And Eagles fans will still find a way to be upset about something. Well, I get it though because they had one good drive tonight and it was the drive late in the second half I mean, the first half, that was really where we had the action. The Lions had that two-play drive where they finally hit a couple passes. One was to Amon Ra. You only had two catches on the day. And then a big pass to Jamison Williams. And the Eagles responded with their one normal-looking drive of the night. They ran the ball well. Saquon had a couple nice carries. A.J. Brown had a big slant in the red zone. It just looked like a normal drive for once.

2:00:17And they got in. Other than that, I didn't blame the Lions for going on fourth down. It wouldn't have mattered either way because they were trying to win the game. The problem was that they were just bad on first, second, third, and fourth down. They're getting dominated offensively. But here's what the Lions defense did, and this is a little bit of positivity for Detroit. And those five turnover and downs, the Eagles had a total of six first downs in the five drives coming off of it. And they got six points. you know, you know, two field goals on some relatively short fields. Like that was not the difference in this game.

2:00:52The differences, the Eagles defense is just awesome. And more power to them because I do think there's a route to them figuring out this offense. And they are.

2:01:01Nick Shook:It's the same story that they had last year. It was week 13 and they couldn't figure it out. And that's what they figured it out along the way of riding their defense all the way to the Super Bowl. Oh, I love it. These NFC North games down the stretch are going to be spicy. and Philadelphia, we talked about the schedule. Getting through this gauntlet, the Green Bay-Detroit here, they still have some tough games with the Bears and the Chargers and the Bills, but they also have three or four just games that you can chalk up as victories, like the two games against the Commanders and the Raiders.

2:01:32You have the Cowboys this week. We'll see. It's really hard to not see them winning 14, 15 type of games. So here we go. nice Sunday I'm really looking at this AFC and I'm seeing the 2005 AFC standings the Broncos the Patriots the Steelers and the Colts are the top four teams those were the top four teams in slightly different order back in 2005 when Jake Plummer was getting it done and Peyton Manning got his one Super Bowl for the Colts So it's all setting up for a big week. We'll have Monday night football, Cowboys and Raiders, Shooky and I on YouTube. So join us live after the game. We're going to make that sing.

2:02:22We're going to add some spicy segment, Shook. I don't even know what it'll be to add even more spice to what hopefully is a fun game. Cowboys Raiders on Monday night to wrap up a big time week 11. We will see you then. Thank you.

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