2025 NFL Week 14 Early Games Preview

19:49Patrick Claybon:And sometimes Josh is the run game where he has like a weird play where he's running over people, goes in the end zone straight up, just being used as a like touchdown scoring weapon by his offensive lineman great where yeah it's it's great but no team has more of their quarterback seriously and he's shown the

20:06Steve Wyche:weight of that i think at times this season even recently where he's not been at his best because i think he's hunting he's trying to do too much and he knows he has to do it all i was at that game in houston i was in the bills locker afterwards and he he was beat up man yeah they They roughed him up. We probably aren't getting Trey Hendrickson back, though, for this game. And, yes, the Bengals are only two games back. They will, in the division, they will stay two games back with four to play. So that's hard to catch up on. It could be a Ravens-Steelers tie. But they will only be one back. Very well could be.

20:45Steve Wyche:Zero, zero. They could be angling to that second-place schedule there. It's a fun, considering the records in this game, like, this is still a fun game. It's a great game. Especially Burrow. Doesn't Burrow get the best of Josh? In general, the Bengals have had their share of success. Especially, you know, they did it in the playoffs too. Against the Bills during these two coaches' tenures.

21:09Patrick Claybon:Looking forward to that one. But we also have a great game in the AFC South. Which people might have forgotten about a few weeks ago. But the Texans and the Jags have made things interesting. It is the Colts who are favored still. by one and a half points, Greg, against the Jacksonville Jaguars in Duval. 47 and a half is the over-under. Ian Eagle and Justin James Watt are on the call. We wish Dimes was healthy and moving around, but the team that's looking healthy and moving up the standings is the Jacksonville Jaguars right now.

21:42Steve Wyche:You know, I think I'm going to have to get this game. I got to watch this game. I got to love this division. I'm fascinated by it. It's become very, very great, hasn't it? The Colts are not the profile of a team in collapse. No. They've been close in these games. Daniel Jones practicing fully on Wednesday. When I saw that they were favored earlier in the week, I just assumed that game's in Indianapolis. Not a lot of belief, apparently, in terms of the numbers with Jacksonville. And I get it because the Jaguars are just so unpredictable, inconsistent, despite Daniel Jones's injuries and the running game hasn't been as good lately.

22:23Steve Wyche:I still do think that this offense is going to have its share of good days. They're not playing the Texans this week. And that's the side of the football I trust the most in this game. I thought they looked good against Houston. I thought Daniel Jones looked really good physically against Houston. I mean, they were heating him up with four, but they were heating him up. And I thought he played well. I thought Jonathan Taylor ran the ball well at times. You know, you're seeing Patrick's favorite player right there, Alec Pierce. All he does is get the touchdown. Bossing two people. You know, and Tyler Warren.

22:52I mean, I'm with this. I like the Colts in this game, and frankly, the Colts have to win this game. It's the first of two. They have not played Jacksonville yet, so they play them later in the season. But the Colts' schedule. Brutal. It is brutal, the final five games. They cannot fall in a game like this to which they're favored seeing as to who is coming up because it is a murderer's row, which is why now I think, especially if Houston beats Kansas City Sunday, two teams from the south are going to go and one of them might not be the Colts just because their schedule is so rugged. They've got to get this game.

23:28Steve Wyche:And both these teams should be happy to play each other because you have a chance if you could sweep the opposition. Basically, that punches a ticket to the playoffs. I do worry about the Colts defense not being able to do as much cool things as they would if Sauce Gardner was on the field and DeForest Buckner is on the field. And I know there's the Jaguars have had plenty of injuries. A lot of teams have injuries, but the Colts, there's just a drop off from their like star players. And those were two of their best players, obviously, on the defense.

23:57Patrick Claybon:Yeah, the acquisition of sauce is what helps you. It's like, OK, that's the piece, the piece on defense where they get a big opportunity for a playmaker and they don't they don't know how long term. this calf injury is going to be and you have to be you know concerned anytime somebody's got a lower calf injury of how things are going to go no word on on the officiality of the time frame yet

24:17Steve Wyche:they're not going to put him on injured reserve according to Ian Rapp but but I mean I'm saying this jokingly but also seriously a team from Indiana who's got a star player with a calf injury we just saw it in the NBA finals with Tyrese Halliburton they're not trying to have this much calf trauma going on with their athletic teams so and i will say this i'm glad you mentioned sauce gardner one of the best trade acquisitions we have seen is jacoby myers going down to jacksonville so now they've got two threats on the outside that could really stress out this

24:48Patrick Claybon:colts defense yeah perhaps it's a friend of the pod liam cohen uh listening to our conversation over the course of the season about the the struggles uh by these jags receivers on in breakers where you you had the best in breaking receiver on the team and britain strange goes down for multiple weeks in the middle of the season and the offense looks lost i tried to find an on-off split for britain strange it didn't match the agenda so so i left that alone but the wins uh come and jacoby myers has the career long on an in breaker uh where trev looks more comfortable the the run game is not uh what it was uh during those stretches so you kind of maybe i'm wish casting here.

25:29Patrick Claybon:I'm starting to worry about my pick of the Jags, but I want to see those things work in unison.

25:34Steve Wyche:But it's weird. The running game, you're right, has after a great start has been mostly MIA, but two weeks ago it lit up like they were awesome and I don't ETN and Tootin are a good combo, so you just don't know what you're going to get from a week to week basis with this team, but they're a team in Jacksonville that can look across the field, the Colts, and they can say this team has been on the field for it's around 165 snaps the last two weeks. That is outrageous. First of all, they should just be tired. I mean, that's just a lot. Second of all, it shows a team that just can't get off the field.

26:06Steve Wyche:That's just giving up third down after third down, short yardage situations, and think that's the way to beat the Colts because I think it's been effective against them the last couple of weeks where, you know, Daniel Jones, they'll have a three and out or two, and suddenly it's like that's the whole half. You cannot get the ball back for this Colts team. That's a great point. That's a great point because you saw it against Houston. I mean, Houston, they were in third down so many times, and whether they ran it, whether Stroud did something with it, they made the play, which is so defeatist to a defense.

26:35Like, man, we had them, we had them again. We were here again, especially the guys up front, you know, who were getting pounded on. Laotter Lotz is playing well. But, you know, you saw so many tackles on third down that were followed by this, you know, the first down signal, you know, that stuff. But I think this is going to be a really good game. It is a must get for the Colts because their schedule is no joke.

26:58Steve Wyche:The defensive players, if I was trying to think, what can we count on for the Jacks? Their defense has been playing better lately. It's been up and down throughout the course of the season. But Josh Hines-Allen and Devin Lloyd are playing really well. Lloyd coming back helps set the table. Yeah, he's really helped them. And Hines-Allen, the last two weeks combined 18 pressures.

27:16Patrick Claybon:18? That's a season.

27:19Steve Wyche:That's a crazy two weeks. with three sacks and a couple more quarterback hits like mixed in. So it's not just hurries. The Jaguars were down a couple offensive linemen in that game. I'm looking at the practice report on Wednesday and it looks like Walker Little, their left tackle, is out. Patrick McCurry is on the field. So that would be good to get one guy back. He's in a non-contact. There's eight. Parker Washington is out. And you mentioned that Myers 50-yard catch. You know what? I caught my eye on that one. What's that? How about Brian Thomas Jr.? and you're sprinting down the field to get a great block.

27:53Steve Wyche:He's back on the field, and he's playing hard. I think it's a matter of time before he has some big moments, too. I know it's been a quiet season, but I like Brian Thompson. Hey, man, others can elevate you, especially if they play in your position group. Man, Colts got to win this game. They have to win this game. I'm nervous for them. I'm telling their schedule is ugly. The Jaguars have been surprising us all year, and both these teams are great stories. They're both 8-4. We would have never expected that, but that's the problem of winning early. It raises the expectation. and that's what we did on this show.

28:23Steve Wyche:We won early with Steve Weiss.

28:24Patrick Claybon:Yeah.

28:25Steve Wyche:Just a, you know, just a thin, beautiful part of the show with Steve Weiss this time. We're going to say goodbye to you. Appreciate you having me. But we loved having you. Patrick and I are going to talk about the rest of these early games and I can't wait. One of the best teams in the NFL, Seattle Seahawks after the break.

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33:53Steve Wyche:Back on NFL Daily. Said goodbye to our great friend, Steve Weiss. Another big-time segment with Patrick Claiborne. And then the afternoon games, in the primetime games, we've got Bill Barnwell coming up. It's a cast of thousands on this preview show.

34:10Patrick Claybon:There's quality individuals on this show and me. No. I think that's a fun note. It's a fun personal note.

34:17Steve Wyche:This is where I need you to shine because the back half of the early games, not as shiny as they may have looked back in September.

34:26Patrick Claybon:You know, the sheen is coming off of the gleaming armor that is my shield robot status. So I will cape for every single one of these games, including Kirk Cousins at home where the Seattle Seahawks are a seven point favorite. The over under is 44 and a half. Kevin Kugler and Moose Johnston on the call. we saw Kirk having a lot of success in the short passing game against the jets. Wow. Wow. Are there yards available against the Seahawks defense? Correct.

34:53Steve Wyche:Look, these first few games actually in this section are important because Seattle's got to keep winning to keep up with the Rams. And one thing, you know, when I was thinking about like big picture Seattle is not only have they taken care of all these games, they haven't been close. Usually like that is one of my definitions of a, truly great team. Like they don't even make you sweat it. Minnesota last week obviously was an example. But if you look in all these games where they were significantly favored, it's a rare one where they even had to sweat out the fourth quarter. So I think about like what do they need to work on?

35:28Steve Wyche:I don't think Kirk Cousins is going to be much problems for this defense. It's more about the offense. That's a tougher matchup. Can we get another Sam Darnold game? Can we get back to the guy that in this very studio Patrick, we awarded him the first half of the season MVP for his play. Oh, I mean, you go and he earned it.

35:46Patrick Claybon:You look at those first 10 weeks of the season. Yeah, it was legitimate. You start in the Rams game and you go back to that point where you've got four interceptions and two touchdowns through the air over these past few games. And now it's, you know, we wanted we were at the point where Jackson Smith and Jigba was was well in the conversation. But because he's still there, he's still there.

36:07Steve Wyche:One bad week. And that wasn't his fault. It doesn't kill.

36:09Patrick Claybon:But that's the thing. One bad week when we've got this Drake May situation going on is rough, at least in terms of my model in that conversation. But now it's a matchup against A.J. Terrell, who's one of the best in the league in terms of yards per target allowed. So if we're going to snap Sam out of the doldrums of whatever this is going on for the Seahawks passing game, this will be the one that shows the people, hey, everything's okay.

36:36Steve Wyche:And I don't think anything's overly wrong. Like I say a lot, it's often about the schedule. You played two of the best defense in the league, and this is what happened. But I did find it interesting that Brian Flores said, before that game, we're going to blitz the hell out of him. Like, that's what we do, but we're going to really do it against Sam Darnold. And they did. 63 % they blitzed against him, and that's a guy who knows Sam Darnold as well as anyone, having coached with him. And Atlanta is a team built to possibly do that. So I think it's a tricky matchup. The Falcons defense actually played, for the most part, pretty well against the Jets.

37:09Steve Wyche:I know they haven't been great, but they've been very good all season. And I do want to see that Seattle running game keep it going, too, because I made a point on this show. I don't know if you remember this. There was a drive against the Cardinals. Yeah. And I said, this is the drive that maybe turned around their running game for the season. So this morning, I went and checked. Since that game, they are top 10 in EPA per play and success rate. 9th, 10th in those two stats. So maybe that drive really did turn around. They've been a little more consistent with our guy Ken Walker. It was a lot of fun to watch.

37:39Patrick Claybon:I'm glad me giving you grief after the disaster against the Rams for the Seahawks run game where it has caused you to go back into that. You didn't even remember. I don't remember these shows. No, I was right. I was right and Patrick was wrong.

37:56Steve Wyche:Do you remember the show as well? Because Jordan will say, oh, I said this then or you said that then. I just let it all wash over me in the moment, I guess. I only remember when we disagree.

38:06Patrick Claybon:That's the only time I remember. You know, smile because. Hard to disagree on this one. Yeah, no. Show up. We're in lockstep. Yeah, let's see. Let's get the Kirk Cousins game because it did not necessarily happen against the New Orleans Saints a couple of weeks ago. Now the New Orleans Saints are on the road against Baker and the Bucs. The Bucs are favored by eight and a half. Kevin Harlan and Trent Green are on the call. They opened Mike Evans' 21-day practice window. Nice. Not sure if we're going to get Mike back in this one, but there were some late flashes from Tyler Shuck and these cardiac saints enough to scare Baker and company, correct?

38:46Steve Wyche:They could. This Tampa team is so confusing. They have won four out of their seven games. In those games, they've been out gained. Okay. They have been outscored this year by 22 points. They are not a profile of a team that's normally 7-5. And yet, Mike Evans coming back. Jalen McMillan coming back. Maybe end of the season. Kalijah Kansi could be coming back. They already got Hasan Redick back. And yet, last week, it was another one of those games. When I went back to rewatch it, it was just like, what is this team? It was great to see Bucky Irving. He really helps them out. But it's another game where, you know, the Cardinals outgain him by about 100 yards.

39:33Steve Wyche:and there were like a lot of things to like. I think there's a possibility that this Bucs team, and they've actually done this a few times, are considerably better and that they're the team that we thought they would be all season in the playoffs when it matters, which is what you want if you're the Bucs. They've kind of gotten lucky to get this far and yet none of it might matter because they're scheduled the rest of the way. There's a lot of games where they'll be heavily favored. They're getting healthier and maybe they kind of crank it up at the last second and they're still right in the mix.

40:01Patrick Claybon:The one place that's most concerning, though, about the health status is Baker Mayfield and that left shoulder. I can't help but think about the torn labrum in his left shoulder that almost ended his career because for some reason, the Browns kept running him out there when he was hurt. And then the opportunities were limited after that. He's been scrambling at a career high rate. Looked good last week, I thought. He moved around. For what it's worth. Moved around well. I know folks are concerned about Ibuka. Ibuka's got one of the lowest catchable target rates during this rough game stretch for him.

40:33Patrick Claybon:And I know people credit that to this alleged rookie wall and all these things. Baker kind of has started spraying the ball a little bit, at least when it comes to targeting, too. And when Ibuka is clear and far away, the number one option, you know, he's going to get attention paid to him where, you know, this will be the third game back for Chris Godwin. and yeah the saints aren't necessarily a problem but to get through and do what you said the seattle seahawks have been doing uh to win a game in a convincing fashion where it's not there's no come from behind necessary against the saints i think that would make all of us feel

41:09Steve Wyche:better yeah the bucks are favored by eight and a half in this game i mean they shouldn't be favored over by eight and a half ever i don't think right now but offensive line like they look good. They have one replacement still in there in Dan Feeney, who didn't play too well last week. But it wasn't just that Chris Godwin is back because early in the season, I don't think he looked right. The first game back, we didn't really see much. Last week, I saw a little bit of pop. I saw a little bit of the old Chris Godwin with some yak. I thought Baker, for what it's worth, moved around well and probably had a better game overall than he did the week before when he first suffered that injury.

41:46Steve Wyche:And yeah, the Saints don't do a lot that really confuses you. Shout out to our podcast colleague, though. Cam Jordan. Two more sacks last week. I was annoyed that I didn't mention that on the recap. He's up to six and a half. I think he's starting to put up numbers where in the end there's going to be a good conversation about him going to Canton. And I think that's meaningful to anyone.

42:10Patrick Claybon:We get to... We pass 125. Okay. Right? That was the number. So, yeah. We like nice, concise numbers in terms of evaluation for career awards, and that means something.

42:25Steve Wyche:Wait, I did want to talk about Chuck for a second. Yeah, let's have the title. I hadn't watched him as closely until the previous week, last week I did. He's got a little better pocket presence and a little more playmaking than I expected. a little more excitement out of the shuckster. Whereas when you watched him in college, I felt like when pressure was near him, he'd kind of panic and he had had so many injuries. It almost seemed like he was just trying to get to the NFL draft. I don't know. I'm just putting thoughts in his head. That's probably not fair, but he's been pretty good against pressure.

42:58Steve Wyche:At least he was last week. The numbers have been up and down, but last week he made a lot of plays and he's doing enough so far where I think he's getting to where Spencer Rattler was, which is like, oh, I think this guy's going to have a career. He's going to be an NFL quarterback. Now, is he like a high level backup? Is he a bridge quarterback? Is he better than that? Obviously, the Saints would hope he's better than that. But like, it kind of feels like worst case scenario now. He's like a good backup quarterback, which is not bad to have. And so you're building from there. He could make it difficult for them to decide what to do in the draft.

43:32Patrick Claybon:Yeah, to be fair to him, because that was, and looking back and in hindsight, it's probably unfair to say, oh, well, Shuck had all these clean pockets to throw from. Everybody would love to play in this offense. Well, he wasn't in those situations. So why am I dinging him for situations that he wasn't in? And now that he's in them, you know, he's surviving those bullets in there.

43:53Steve Wyche:Pretty good test this week. He's had a relatively soft schedule. You get you face all the blitzes. This is a new challenge. It's a it's a small sample size. I don't want to go too crazy. But so far, I was a doubter, and I would say I think he's been a little higher than expectations. So I'm watching you, Tyler.

44:10Patrick Claybon:I'm enjoying you. Greg's got your eye on you, Tyler. So congratulations on that. That in itself is an accomplishment. What about an accomplishment at quarterback for the Minnesota Vikings for perhaps J.J. McCarthy? His Vikings are favored by one and a half points with the Washington Commanders coming in, still questioning the availability on their offensive side of the ball adam amin and drew breeze on the call the commanders gave the the broncos every single thing they had including extra time uh are are they should we be looking at that one and a half a little bit sideways greg

44:47Steve Wyche:in which way that the commander should be favored i i you know considering the way things went

44:54Patrick Claybon:against the Denver Broncos. I'm starting to believe.

44:57Steve Wyche:There is a case to be made based on an extremely small sample size that Dan Quinn has helped out the defense in terms of the play calling. They've been certainly more competitive the two weeks that he called plays. The offense has been fine throughout. You know, I want to see if Jaden Daniels is playing in this game. We don't know as of now. But yeah, the Vikings are not a team that probably should be favored over anyone. just about.

45:25Patrick Claybon:I do think because the Brosner experience for better or worse, at least people have an answer for as of right now, this idea that

45:35Steve Wyche:I'd like to see one more Brosner game I'm serious it was a tough situation, your first start against Seattle before saying we have an answer but yeah, I wasn't expecting him to be way better than J.J. McCarthy or anything, but you know if we're going to be fair about sample sizes You know, he only played one game. Okay.

45:54Patrick Claybon:I'm with Greg. Let's, let's, let's have more of this snuff film. That was the Max Ross experience against the Seattle Seahawks where, yeah, I think, you know, I'm not going to say Dan Quinn has completely fixed the circumstances over there on that defensive side of the ball, but I would feel better for the, for the opportunity for JJ mccarthy at the very least to feed targets to justin jefferson in a way where last week when the targets were there it was an adventure even i i there was legitimately one rep where jj felt like he was questioning whether or not the ball was was actually going to get to him yeah and folks are wondering about his effort because it was so scattershot where you know for the sake of Vikings fans, Greg?

46:43Steve Wyche:Yeah.

46:43Patrick Claybon:Let's get Max Brosmer in a better situation. But J.J. McCarthy.

46:48Steve Wyche:Yeah, that's fair. And having a week off, maybe that calms his mind a little bit. Certainly the matchup shouldn't be as tough in general. I did want to get this quote right, and that's what I was searching for. Okay. And it was on hard knocks in the locker room. Have you seen this? No. After the game. And Dan Quinn says, we may have lost, but we are no longer lost. Wow, that's pretty good. But we're not lost anymore. That was the quote again. He was this is a team that's been adrift all season. They're not lost anymore. They're going to be rallying to the home stretch. Maybe Jaden Daniels, by the way, not, you know, taking any contact.

47:29Steve Wyche:It's practice. Anyways, you would expect him to wear a non contact jersey. They'll determine his status on Friday. He is practicing. Just my gut based on how they're talking. I think it's going to be another week. I do think he's going to play multiple games this season. I don't think it's going to be this week, but that's just my guess.

47:45Patrick Claybon:I have a huge question about this game before we go. Okay. Jeremy McNichols has the second best yards per carry average in the entire NFL right now. He's over six and a half yards. Why do they not give Jeremy McNichols more opportunities when he's running the ball?

47:59Steve Wyche:He's not maybe like as like rugged a runner as Chris Rodriguez. Chris Rodriguez is good. I mean, they're all pretty good. I guess he's not an every down guy. I don't know. He's definitely not if you don't give him the ball.

48:10Patrick Claybon:I don't know. I would like to see it, Cliff. I would like to see it. That's all I'll say. I want to see more Jeremy McNichol.

48:16Steve Wyche:Okay.

48:17Patrick Claybon:Let's keep it rolling. Let's do it. Another running back who has huge numbers is Devon H.M. And his Miami Dolphins, who have a path, Greg, as you said famously a few weeks ago. The path is still there, although this becomes less likely. Two and a half point favorites against Rod Taylor and the Jets, the over under 41 and a half Spiro Ditas and Adam Archuleta. It has been Adonai Mitchell, Greg. You call that the explosiveness. Does that power the Jets for another win for AG against the Dolphins?

48:49Steve Wyche:I kind of think it will. Who are you going to take? You're now in first place on Game Day View, which is our weekly show on NFL Network. People should check out. And Patrick is trying to pull off the impossible and defeat the computer model of Cynthia Freeland. Right now he's winning.

49:06Patrick Claybon:Eventually, on a show with three people, eventually I would have had one chance over the course of these past few seasons. And so we're here. I think I'm going to take the Jets. They've been playing well lately. They have been playing well. I am scared to death by the hot air balloon that Tua Tongvaloa threw to Jalen Waddell last week. Perhaps the ball slipped out of his hands. I don't know. But that one piece of tape, I'm still picking the fans here because I think the run game with A-Chan specifically allows them more explosive opportunity. But, you know, the Taylor experience is back. I'm glad Terod is back playing.

49:42Patrick Claybon:He's made the Jets better, and he's given hope, like long-term viability to Adnan Mitchell.

49:48Steve Wyche:Right. A.D. Mitchell always looked like a talented player. If you're watching on YouTube, we love you. Like, subscribe, do it all. And you're seeing A.D. Mitchell get open down the field. He's probably going to be a guy that has his hair dropped. And I don't know what the other issues were, but he is becoming a pro. He's a young guy. I think that's going to go down as a big part of that trade. I don't think he's going to be a number one, but I think he's going to be a starting caliber. He's clearly the most talented receiver on this roster when Garrett Wilson is hurt, which has been the case for most of this season.

50:25Steve Wyche:And it does make it a dangerous game for my vision of the Dolphins coming back. The problem with that vision is everyone in the AFC keeps winning. You know, the idea was, okay, they're going to be six and seven. They could have a game where they have a chance to pass the Steelers, was the vision a month ago. That all is going to happen. But passing the Steelers might be for 10th place in the AFC. So I don't think it really is going to make any difference. and I don't trust this Dolphins team in particular. I don't get the arguments that I've seen out there of like, I don't know, like McDaniel is kind of making the case for why he should be back.

51:03Steve Wyche:Why? Because they're doing the same thing that they would have done anyways, but just in a different order? I hate that. Well, Greg, famously,

51:10Patrick Claybon:the end of the season is more important than the start of the season. And now the Dolphins are winning, so that logic would say that Mike Mack's doing great. He should be brought back because this is when it means more.

51:21Steve Wyche:You know how everyone's been noting that the Patriots have one of the easiest schedules in NFL history? The Dolphins and the Jets schedules aren't that much harder. So if you get to seven or eight wins in year four of your program with one of the easiest schedules, and you don't even get your over-under win total, they were expected to be decent. They were an eight and a half before the season. I'm not giving you any credit that it happened at the end of the season. I do like, though, Chop Robinson, who had a total of one sack and quarterback hit combined going into last week. I had one of each.

51:53Steve Wyche:He was very active throughout the rest of the game. And Devon Achan, I noticed, 1 ,400 yards from scrimmage right now. 240 touches. He is a bell cow type of guy if you count the receptions. 10 touchdowns. And his ability to, like, skip forward while he's—he just, like, skips on an NFL field while everyone else looks slow around him. all my doubts of Devon Achan have been proven stupid.

52:19Patrick Claybon:And thank you for attaching the bell cow to a smaller. Yeah, because, you know, the smaller guys don't get bell cow.

52:25Steve Wyche:But if you get over 300 touches, you're bell cow. I think they can win this game. The New York Jets.

52:33Patrick Claybon:All right. A fun matchup. What about a fun matchup that we were previewing back in the draft? And we thought Shadour Sanders was going to go significantly higher. It is a matchup of two quarterbacks that really built their relationship during that draft process. It is Shador Sanders playing host to Cam Ward and the Tennessee Titans. And the Browns are favored, Greg, by four and a half points. Chris Myers and Mark Schlereth on the call. The thing that everybody should be watching because the quarterbacks are going to get a lot of attention here. They said Miles Garrett is getting close to this record, Greg.

53:06Patrick Claybon:He may get significantly closer this week.

53:09Steve Wyche:This is a huge week for him. I think to go get it because cam Ward holds onto the ball. JC Latham has not played particularly well this year in general, the Titans offensive line, whether you want to go on the interior, there's an injury at center as well. You know, and they, they move them inside. Sometimes this is a time to go rack up some numbers. Cause what I don't want is going into the last week or two. And he like needs one more. It's hard. The other team isn't want to, you're not going to have Brett Favre laying down for you. This is, by the way, the all-time Chris Myers-Mark Tlaireth game.

53:44Steve Wyche:Titans-Browns. Combined four wins. That's where it's at. It's bad enough, Greg. I'm taking shots. Did you see Deshaun Watson is practicing? They opened up his 21-day practice window. In case you wanted to feel worse about this Brown season, I would be stunned if he played football this year. in a regular season game. I would be very surprised if he was even on the active roster. I think what they're doing is letting him practice and kind of continue his development and reward him for what Kevin Stefanski said has been a great attitude and doing everything that they want. But he's just practicing just to practice.

54:27Steve Wyche:I would be beyond shocked if they let Deshaun Watson play football on the Browns.

54:32Patrick Claybon:Do you feel that Deshaun Watson should have been playing just purely football-wise these past two seasons? Well, no. Exactly. So I would not be shocked if the Cleveland Browns put Deshaun Watson. We're in a different place. Because they've been doing it for no reason from my perspective. So why would I expect them to behave rationally here in 2025?

54:55Steve Wyche:There's just no point. What is he going to do? Be the backup over Dylan Gabriel?

54:58Patrick Claybon:No, you're making sense to me. Yeah, yeah. That makes sense to me. But considering what we've seen from the franchise and the decision makers involved, I don't know. I would not be shocked.

55:08Steve Wyche:I also would be shocked if Kevin Stefanski is back next year. So I don't know if the decision makers that are involved will be making these decisions. To me, the ownership is most important out of this entire group. And the Titans should count their blessings, by the way, that they are not chasing what that poor Browns team did last decade. You remember the one game that the Titans won? Yeah. it's the flukiest game in the history of the NFL I have never seen a flukier ending to an NFL game than that Titans game and they have not been that competitive it's not like oh well yeah they almost won this game or almost won that game they are like there is this idea the Raiders are worse I've kind of thrown that out there but like they're one of the worst teams ever the one game that they've ever won that they won was the luckiest game ever and if If you look at DVOA overall efficiency, there's a pretty big gap between them and 31 on the list.

56:07Like four and a half might not be enough.

56:10Steve Wyche:I like the Browns to cover this.

56:12Patrick Claybon:I got to assemble a list of the luckiest games ever so that we can defeat this theory from Greg.

56:18Steve Wyche:It was a crazy performance. You know what? I will say Kim Ward should bounce back because that was maybe his worst game of the season last year. Last week, it was coming off of one of his best games of the season. it happens. And when you got Mike McCoy on the sidelines, just the last guy I want as an interim head coach,

56:40Patrick Claybon:spicy to dig.

56:43Steve Wyche:Just like refuses to go for it. Just, there's no nothing there. There's nothing. That's not what you want out of your interim head coach. He is a villain and I would never call Barnwell that, but this is a week where we've got different personnel in the mix. And so we decided to take advantage of a friend, do a little home and home. So we're going to say goodbye to Patrick right now. We thank Steve Weiss for his excellent contributions. And I want you to check out the show with Bill Barnwell hitting all the late games, great primetime games. We will see you then. Are you looking for support in your weight management journey?

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