2025 NFL Week 16 Late and Primetime Games Preview

22:50Jourdan Rodrigue:can see yeah i think it has potential for that i am curious though because you would think when you look at this, it's who gets the ball last. That's who wins essentially. So with that in mind, I'm curious if the Patriots adjust and learn from a little bit of what happened last week and they, uh, deploy a little bit more ball control in a expert fashion or in a situational fashion, less so, um, a product of the defense that they're playing. And, and I feel like that's the way playing keep away has to be the way that you win this game. It only works if you can run the ball, luckily for them, even though they haven't run the ball well, luckily for them, the Patriots run defense is certainly not up to par.

23:30Right. But they're a hard team to figure out because they change depending on the week. Like they're rushing attack the last few weeks. And granted one was, you know, before the bye has been better. I think Ramondre has looked pretty good. Travion Henderson success rate like has gone up. I just think they're a team that really misses Milton Williams. And like every team has a million injuries, but the Patriots are a thinner team where the drop-off is significant and they only play their front four like the Eagles do. Those front four aren't as good. And so I think you're seeing some wear and tear from Harold Landry and Caleb on chase on specifically.

24:07Those guys were at the center of a lot of the best bills plays last week where they're not keeping their rush lanes and they're not really creating much of a pass rush without Milton Williams. And so there's opportunities for the other team. And yet I still have a lot of faith in Drake May to bounce back, even if the Ravens defense has been playing better. The Ravens defense got a couple of key players back last week. Patrick, Ardarius Washington, safety who played quite well for them last year. And then Tavarius Robinson, their names are just close enough to mess me up, but he had a big play early in that game too.

24:43So they are getting some guys who have been in the system before and played a lot of snaps for them and getting healthy there down the stretch run. And you could say, this is a revenge game, not just for Kyle Van Nooy. But how about for John Harbaugh against Mike Rabel? Some big wins over them in the past, including that playoff game, whenever that was. I don't remember. 2019, 2020? Yeah, I think it was Lamar's first playoff game. Where things with the other way. They also had some beef at the time, where the next year, the Titans beat up on them, and they played a couple times. There was some stuff between them back in the day.

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25:24Jourdan Rodrigue:Lead canines. And John Arbaugh. Two lead canines. Should we take a break? Let's take a break. Excited that these games are so good that Pittsburgh-Detroit didn't even make it in the first block of the show.

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31:38You're like, what is going on? that's where I'm at right now everything's great everything's always great Steelers, Lions it's the Jim Nance and Tony Romo yes and the Lions are favored by seven wow I haven't looked at these lines yet Dan Campbell is calling the plays and they've been explosive on offense they've looked great, the Pittsburgh Steelers a couple of weeks after fire Tomlin chants in the Catbird seat in the AFC North. And yeah, we get a chance to see this over-under at 49 and a half. We're Jordan. Do Aaron Rodgers and the Pittsburgh Steelers keep this hot streak going?

32:20Jourdan Rodrigue:Man, it would be hard to see Detroit kind of fall apart, I think, because they are so well-coached. Because we love them. We love them. Because they're America's team. Because we want them to do well. I don't want them to be in pain. And they seem, they're just hurting right now, guys. They're having trouble consistently getting pressure outside of Aiden Hutchinson. They're decimated in their secondary, throughout their secondary, and they are having trouble containing explosive plays. The Steelers are running the ball pretty well these days. They're not faring well as well as they want to against the run.

32:57Jourdan Rodrigue:This on paper, if you're taking the last week or so or a couple of weeks of Steelers and the last couple of weeks of Lions on paper, it does feature the Pittsburgh. It does favor the Pittsburgh Steelers. And yet they're a touchdown underdog. Cal guys at quarterback. That's a huge that's a huge number to me. It speaks to a couple of things that I do find interesting. You know, when you're talking about the numbers and Vegas and all that, which is that do you value what you've seen lately? or do you value the whole course of the season? And it's like a push and pull when evaluating these teams. Coaches look at the last four weeks.

33:35I tend to think that is what's more important. And I think the Steelers offense has shown signs of, I don't know if they've been transformed, but playing their best football now. And this is a really positive matchup against a Lions defense that I believe is 29th in the last month or so in terms of EPA per play allowed. Like they're just not a good defense lately. And so I kind of like this, this one being a score fest as well. Endors.

34:01Jourdan Rodrigue:We got indoors. Good call. We got breaking news from NFL insider, JJ Watt, who has some insight into the health status of little brother says he's quote, working through it was, I don't know if that necessarily inspires a lot of confidence regarding TJ Watt status, which I think is, is huge here because the, this, This most recent edition of the Tua Tonga-Vailoa Miami Dolphins didn't really allow me a chance to evaluate how the Pittsburgh Steelers' pass defense was. Okay, fair. I understand the last four weeks are part of that evaluation. That version of the Dolphins not necessarily inspiring the threat that JG and J-Mo and Amon Ra and Jameer Gibbs do, where seven makes sense to me.

34:51Seven makes perfect sense. So, yeah, week 12 was the cutoff where they're 29th in EPA per play, the Lions. And they're first in points, by the way, this season. Just like flat out points.

35:01Jourdan Rodrigue:30 points per game. Someone tell Baker Mayfield. It is possible. Listen to the other show first. I guess Jared Goff's not letting his team down. No. He really isn't. He's pointing the fingers at the guy that celebrated the touchdown he just threw. That's who Jared Goff's pointing the fingers at. Jared Goff has responded to being dismissed from QB Island by playing his best month of football of the season over the last month, even when they were they've lost some of these games. I think he is playing outstanding. And so that that's a good point, Patrick, about the Steelers defense. It's more of the Steelers offense, which I I kind of felt like was dead on arrival almost all season long because of their passing game.

35:42and I still think the ceiling's relatively low, but I've raised it. If they can just be a competitive to decent passing game, then they're a little more dangerous in a spot like this against a team that will put up to the point. That's all. It has to be a big Amik Robertson game. Just the way that this defense consistently, regardless of which pieces are missing, have schemed up to bother opposing quarterbacks and be in the passing lanes where if you can make Aaron Rodgers hesitate, not trust what he sees, you know, the balls, first of all, it's going out of bounds, but if he can't get there, if he's still in the pocket, then there's an opportunity to have those negative plays.

36:24And maybe Aiden Hutchinson, despite not being able to crest 19 miles per hour when he's running down the field by himself, is able to get some quick pressure on Aaron Rodgers.

36:32Jourdan Rodrigue:I just think this is a high potential game for the Lions to just be a explosively smothering group because it almost happened to the Rams. The Rams fought their way back in it, but hitting those explosive plays early almost put that one out of reach in a big way. And they can do it again against the Steelers. The third and fourth most explosive plays allowed this season. Third most is the Detroit Lions defense. And fourth most is the Pittsburgh Steelers defense. And they're so close together. Just three explosive plays apart. 133 for Detroit and 130 for the Steelers per next-gen stats, that that to me shows me that the better, the more explosive offense will win this game, and that's the Lions.

37:16It should be. DK's finally gotten some big plays the last couple of weeks. It's good to see him a bigger part of the offense. I don't think of their running game as explosive, although it's quietly effective, the Steelers, with Jalen Warren, who's more likely to make a man miss a tackle than he is to bust it for 40. Is it my fault that Kenneth Gaines is subtracted from your Steelers running back analysis? Maybe subconsciously that is true. He shouldn't be because... Because Kenny G's having a great season, correct?

37:45Jourdan Rodrigue:Yeah. He really is. And the Steelers are telling you... Well, he has to do PFF first, probably. Yeah, I guess we do need to. No, running backs, that's easier. No. I don't know. I don't even know what that means. Kenneth Gaines, well... Look, he was the primary ball carrier on a team that put up over 30 points in a Super Bowl. He's also the primary carrier right now on the Steelers. Quietly, he's playing a little more than Jalen Warren, although it's a great one-two punch. It's been a quiet three weeks for Jameer Gibbs right since he had that nuclear game where he went over 200 yards, right? Or maybe it's just been two weeks, but he's had a couple quiet weeks and you do miss Sam Laporta.

38:22I do think the culture of it all, they can't lose this game, Dan Campbell. They could technically be eliminated. Remember I said hours ago, years ago before I received life-changing news via text I'm joking.

38:36Jourdan Rodrigue:Is everything okay? I pointed out only one team could be eliminated this week and that was the Dallas Cowboys. There is a very unlikely scenario in which the Lions lose but there is another and the Bears and the Packers tie where the Lions would be eliminated. So even though it wouldn't be official that they would be eliminated if they lose this game likely, they would be all but eliminated and would need an incredible amount of help in the final two weeks if Detroit doesn't win. Come on. Coming through. Dan Campbell, Mike Tomlin. I mean, how much more? Do it for America. We need it so bad. How much cooler can it get in terms of like a head coaching matchup?

39:16I feel like Mike Tomlin walked so Dan Campbell can run, you know?

39:20Jourdan Rodrigue:Oh, that's that's cool. I like that a lot. Well, I guess Mike Tomlin ran, too. He won a lot of games and won a Super Bowl but you know what I mean they're like I feel like two two guys two guys in the same mold well you like cool head coaches Greg yes can I interest you on a Pete Carroll and the Las Vegas Raiders oh okay well the Raiders are playing the Houston Texans who are favorite I wasn't ready to read this 14 and a half points the over is 37 and a half Andrew Catalan Charles Davis and Jason McCourty will have the task of making it interesting Greg because the Raiders are playing against a team is significantly better than them.

39:56And they always do. One of my favorite trios. I'm talking about Catalan, Davis, and McCourty. I've had enough broadcaster hate lately. I want to give the good crews some credit. And the Texans offense, that's a good crew. I wondered aloud on that Cynthia pod last week where we do our picks. Do we really trust the Texans? Favored by 10 points last week? like ready to just like blow a team out. Didn't end up taking that game. It's like, yeah, we kind of do trust them. They've gotten through this gauntlet and they could be 10 and two in their last 12 games if they win this game. And they've done it against a top five difficult schedule.

40:37And now they finally get to a softer portion. And you watched that game closely last week, Jordan. The offense looked great. And it just is awesome to see CJ Stroud in rhythm. And one thing that stuck out to me watching is just he's moving really well.

40:52Jourdan Rodrigue:Yes. And he talked in the offseason about really working on his movement skills. And I do think you saw that like right at the beginning of the season, but then he got hurt and the offensive line has been bad. But he has been great, I think, lately and he's moving really well. Well, there's a more of a rapport with some of the younger players too. The younger receivers, the two guys out of Iowa State and then Xavier Hutchinson coming in as well. And then, you know, obviously Nico is Nico, But it's all of the young players seem to have grown up through part of the grueling nature of what the season has been.

41:26Jourdan Rodrigue:I was delighted to see now Woody Marks is kind of in and out with an ankle injury. So he's kind of if he plays, he'll be playing through a little of that. But I was absolutely delighted to see that they promoted Joe Jordan off the practice squad again. And he should stay on this active roster for as long as they can keep him there. because the burst that he gave them on the ground, you know, Woody Marks clearly can be a very explosive player, but it was almost like a spark plug, just little like flashes with Juar Jordan, who showed this burst that was awesome, that was badly needed. It was exciting to watch this Houston Texans offense move the ball and stay ahead of the sticks in such a functional way.

42:07Jourdan Rodrigue:You combine that with C.J. Stroud's ability as a quarterback, making some of the highest difficulty level throws. It just, it's all coming together and it's coming together at the right time. And thank God, because they're giving this defense some help, finally. And a opportunity where you can both rest Woody Marks for this upcoming postseason run and get Jawar Jordan a chance to get more carries. As far as NFL debuts. Win-win. Yeah, 15 carries over 100 involved in the receiving game as well. I'd like to see more of them as well. And because, again, you try stuff against this team. I like how we're politely calling these miserable teams that try stuff against me.

42:53Yeah, but the Raiders are the king of them. The quintessential. Yeah, you can work on your offensive line, Texans. You're not going to have to worry about any crazy blitzes. These are two teams that both like to play base defense, having three linebackers on the field. It can work. I mean, the 49ers do it pretty well.

43:12Jourdan Rodrigue:For one of these teams. And the Texans, I noticed with Christian Harris back last week, or maybe it's the last two weeks, I'm not sure. But he's playing a decent amount of snaps, and he adds a little bit of a different element. And I think they're going to want him getting ready for the playoffs to at least be an important player for them. And yeah, that's the type of stuff you can do against the Raiders. Yeah. and thank you for putting me on the Jalen Petrie smelling salt yes situation because I saw the video not only did he take a hit of the smelling salts he no sold it like no reaction yeah no facial indication frozen frozen expression and just casually drops it to the ground and then goes and sprints to the flat that's just Wednesday for him yeah that's just nothing if I'm lined up across from that I'm sideline hey I'm tapping my head I love this defense so much And yeah, if we don't know if Geno is going to be back for this game, we should have pointed out, by the way, for the Jets, it is Brady Cook again.

44:13We didn't get that information, but we don't know if it's Geno or Kenny Pickett.

44:18Jourdan Rodrigue:You either way. Yes. R.I.P. Yes, again. You were asking earlier on the show this week what players we think that Wes would have liked. I look at Will Anderson Jr. and I think the exuberance and the joy that that young man plays with and the ferocity, despite being such a joy for his teammates to be around, he's incredible. Watching him play is incredible. I think Wes would have really loved him. I totally agree. Loved, loved like an edge with his hair on fire and really realizing when you, they talked about Will Anderson before the draft. And when it came to that trade, there was this idea that the ceiling wasn't somehow quite as high as like top edge type of guys, that it was more like safe versus like crazy ceiling.

45:08I mean, this is the ceiling right now. He's a, he's a first team all pro I think with miles Garrett. I think those are the two. Speaking of which you mentioned Nico is Nico. And I, And I often think this when I'm watching Nego Collins, who I think is my favorite wide receiver in the league. Like we say, oh, he's one of the best receivers in the league. It's like, but he's still better than you think. I'm thinking about if I'm making an all pro team this year, I actually got to make a list. Like how high are we talking? If we're putting three receivers on, which I think they do now, it's probably JSN and Puka are the easy top two.

45:42and then after that you could go chase certainly having a good year it's kind of tough to put Justin Jefferson on the team this year because he's not going to break a thousand yards I don't think I think you're I would maybe put Nico right there on the first team and if not he's there on the second team with Amon Ra and CD or whoever else George Pickens you want to put on the second team but like I think that's the floor for Nico and I don't think it's crazy to have him right there at number three. And that's why it was so important for your call for the Texans' office line to be normal, to be standard issue, so more people could appreciate how good of a football player Nico Collins is.

46:24And thankfully, more people are. Let's go to our final game, guys.

46:27Jourdan Rodrigue:Oh, wow. The Atlanta Falcons are favored by two and a half points, fresh off of the Kyle Pitts game, on the road against the Arizona Cardinals. The over-under is 47 and a half, Jason Batetti, and brady quinn on the call the cardinals have have looked like uh cancun on three the past couple of weeks of jordan do they provide the early season cardinals scare where they lose this game by three points i think the cardinals can win this game oh i think it's the vibes are down horrendous in atlanta right now um the kiss of death for the quarterbacks in any building The theme this year seems to be everything is on the table if the head coach says that.

47:10Jourdan Rodrigue:And that is what Raheem Morris told the media this week when asked about the future of the quarterback situation. It bears repeating that Atlanta does not have their initial first round pick with which they could potentially go make a decision at quarterback. It also bears noting that they might not even be the ones in the building making that decision, nor the Arizona Cardinals. So this is a whose vibes are slightly less bad than others game. That is absolutely all true. And yet when I think about this game versus, let's say, Bengals Dolphins, this is the sort of chaos that I'll embrace on the field, off the field.

47:49You're right. The vibes are bad.

47:50Jourdan Rodrigue:I like both of these teams schematically on defense, at least on the field. And I know the defense for the Cardinals hasn't been good, but I still hold space for the possibility of what could be. I mean, Kyle Pitts is coming off one of the most legendary fantasy football performances of all time, if not TNF performances of all time. That's fun. Drake London sounds like he could be back for this game. We got to give Kirk Cousins credit for playing very well in that game. And I think it's been a steady incline where he's looked better each and every week. I think it's a little crazy to talk about.

48:22Jourdan Rodrigue:Do you think he's playing himself into another job? No, but there are only 32 jobs. So I kind of very notable one in Kansas city where maybe they need somebody to play three or four games. I get, see, I'm trying to have my cake and eat it too here. Like it wouldn't, it wouldn't surprise me if he has a starting quarterback in week one next year, but I don't think he's going to get like a starting quarterback like contract. So that's where I would separate him. Like maybe he's paired with a rookie or he's paired with, uh, Michael really want to be a bridge guy again. Well, that's what, well, what does he got to do?

48:56Like he just accept, I think Raheem is just too honest. Like, of course, they're considering everything. Michael Penix is coming off of a torn ACL. He might not be ready for the start of next season. And if he is, he's coming off a torn ACL.

49:09Jourdan Rodrigue:There's no way to know that he was not playing well before the injury. Yes. Right. So. For sure. But I mean, even if he was playing well, I feel like they would have to be, you know, readying as an organization for that position considering his injury history. And yeah, it would surprise me if Raheem is there. But you never know. Jacoby Brissett might throw it 100 times this game. Another player goes to injured reserve. I think Bam Knight this time. Cardinals have just had the worst luck with their running backs room all year. They'll be down to their sixth starting running back in this game. And as the season creaks to a close on the Arizona Cardinals.

49:51I keep going back to that. Their defense is not that injured. In fact, up front, they're as healthy as they've been all season. and they are somewhere between 25th and 27th in basically every defensive stat. And he's a defensive coach and he's been there for three years. And so you're starting to hear the national of like, well, like Tom Pelissero said this week, they want to keep them, but the results... They still want them. Right, like basically they've been planning to keep them, but at a certain point...

50:21Jourdan Rodrigue:The last three games matter. Yeah, at a certain point, if the results continue to be really lopsided, yeah, I mean, it's not going to be great for Jonathan Gannon. And I do want to finish. You mentioned it's been a sign all season. It's been kind of a trend when they talk about their young quarterbacks that way. I'm not overly comfortable with the fact that Shane Steichen is more or less sane, going back to the Colts, that like, oh yeah, Anthony Richardson might be cleared for activities. But yeah, we didn't bring in Phillip Rivers for anything but to start. I'm not surprised by that, but it sounds like they're not even going to let like Anthony Richardson be a backup and just being weird about it.

50:59I don't I don't know. Yeah, they've not handled that. Just be honest about it. Maybe like we don't see him as the whatever it is. He's like refusing to answer questions. Anthony Richardson was, I think, cleared for football.

51:11Jourdan Rodrigue:Yeah, he is. He's cleared for football activities, but he's not the backup. Yeah. And they probably aren't going to I even think put him on the active rosters. That's another quarterback that'll be available for someone this offseason. We have a whole three weeks to get through before we get there. We also have a really exciting addition to the feed. Tell us about this week's NFL Power Players, which is coming up. Yeah. Yeah. We talked to Chad Alexander, the assistant general manager of the Los Angeles Chargers this week. And I love we talked about the Chargers earlier. What was that? The other show, right?

51:46They're all they're all one show. I just consider this one long show.

51:50Jourdan Rodrigue:We talked about the Chargers earlier today, and I love what you said because you have not heard the interview yet, Greg, but you talked about winning ugly and no style points, and that's exactly what Chad Alexander was talking about as well as just really rebuilding what it means to have an identity as a football team in that building of late. It was a pretty cool interview. I'm excited for people to listen to it. Okay, so that is going to go up on Thursday. we will also be back Thursday night Jordan and I recapping Ram Seahawks the best Thursday night football game of all time Greg that's right no hyperbole here I think so I'd have to go through the records the legendary 17 point Baker Mayfield we'll see you then

52:55Jourdan Rodrigue:We'll be right back.

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