2025 NFL Week 17 Preview

21:36I mean, I don't believe that. Derrick Henry's almost never on the field in those hurry-up situations, so that part's not new. They don't think he's as good as the other players in a hurry-up passing situation. I'm just saying it's hardly been the first time that he's not on the field late in games.

21:51Jourdan Rodrigue:Last quick point, and I was looking this up when you were asking me about Lamar, Greg. Sorry about that. But Jordan Love has to fully participate in a practice and then be cleared after participating in that practice. So far, he has been a limited participant in practice. Just outlining the steps of the protocol because I think a lot of people forget what they are. Yeah, and Jeff Halfley, if you're going to try to get coaching interviews, thought he did great last week. The Packers are coming off two of the toughest losses I think any teams have had all season long. I mean, that was a brutal emotional loss, but they were that team that you were talking about last week.

22:25they played really well on both sides alright so those Baltimore Ravens fans if they get a win all eyes will be on CBS Jim Nance and Tony Romo where the Pittsburgh Steelers on Sunday are 3.5 favorites on the road at the Cleveland Browns who almost squeaked out a win against the Buffalo Bills last week 33.5 it's a very low number where Jordan I am can Cleveland do this for the people that would like for this day I've never seen you so emotional watching a football game watching Steelers Lions last weekend in the newsroom you were dying more even than you would with a Ravens game but you just needed the Lions to help you out a little and then this situation wouldn't be so so dire for well doubly so because two weeks in a row the Steelers have come out in the second half and just road graded the opponent to an extent that's like, oh, the Steelers are actually like demoralizing.

23:29Jourdan Rodrigue:They are playing their best. They are playing their best football right now and on both sides of the ball. And I guess the universal balance has to swing some way because we never see Chris Boswell miss a kick. So something has to go wrong, right? Just in terms of the balance of life in the NFL. But yeah, they're insane. They're very, very productive on offense, running the ball. well. Aaron Rodgers is playing good football. They're getting explosive plays, which they really struggled with early in the season. You know, I knew it was bad or good if you're a Steelers fan, but I knew it was bad when Patrick, I walk in from filling up my water bottle and Patrick is at his desk standing in the most wide leg, like father at the kid's soccer game power stance with the arms crossed I've ever seen in my life.

24:15Jourdan Rodrigue:It was a masterpiece. Well, yeah, it can, it can all be about me but I'm sure obviously it's frustrating for Lions fans but for perhaps those Steelers fans were there chanting fire Tomlin to see this team make second half adjustment after second half adjustment it's like well maybe that was a mistake or maybe those people aren't capable of introspection in the first we'll see if they get healthier so I think Derek Harmon was a huge return to the lineup for them last week in terms of stopping the run against the Lions and And the on-off splits for Derek Harmon this year are fantastic for Harmon in terms of helping the run defense.

24:54We don't know when TJ Watt could return. We don't know if Nick Herbig could return. But on offense, as good of a player as DK Metcalf is, and Ollie Connolly pointed out, we hit the news that DK Metcalf was suspended on our previous show. He pointed out, look, Cleveland plays a ton of man coverage, and DK is their best man beater. It's a total fair point. I do think the way to beat this Browns defense is on the ground. and I don't think you have to tell Arthur Smith twice to run an offense through Kenny Gainwell and Darnell Washington. I think he's going to absolutely love doing that. Sprinkle in a little Jalen Warren at the end, ripping off 45-yard gains for his fantasy teams.

25:31Jourdan Rodrigue:Schematically, I understand DK Metcalf is their best matchup player for this particular matchup, but he's not the reason they've been getting explosive plays. He's only been targeted on passes of 10-plus air yards at like a 30 % rate per next-gen, lowest of the season. you know obviously this just uh you guys covered the news already but what a just a wiener of a situation like i i can't even get into it because i'm just gonna get mad but um dk hang in there buddy um he'll be back for the playoffs maybe sooner and maybe this will be out of date if the appeal you know wins the thing is they their defense their offense has been different with dk and in general the last three weeks.

26:12The average air yards per attempt are up like a lot. The third and longs that they hit against Detroit were up a lot. And Aaron Rodgers is holding on to the ball longer. Not long, but longer. It is a different offense, really, the last three weeks. And you give him some credit for adjusting. On the other side, Shiner Sanders has gone because of Stefanski. I think like Aaron Rogers to the extreme extreme until that last third and 32 shot last week, he was averaging under one yard per, per attempt. I mean, that was a schemed up masterpiece by Kevin Stavansky in a way, but also should her Sanders did nothing in that game.

26:54Like it was crazy to watch back.

26:55Jourdan Rodrigue:We're on a record record watch for miles Garrett. I believe he's one sack away at this point and going, going up against the moral successor to Brett Favre, just in a lot of capacities, perhaps Aaron Rodgers could donate a little history to Miles Garrett and then go out the rest of the game. I really hope not because that was the most annoying subplot of the Michael Strahan situation from years ago. But you could see a situation if the Steelers are winning big. Aaron Rodgers feels like he would do that. He does not want to get hit, but he just like sees Miles Garrett coming and just... Just to get his name somewhere else?

27:30Just gets on the ground. Just an opportunity to answer some more questions. The thing about Aaron Rodgers is when you get pressure on him, you get set. He gets sacked. I know he doesn't want to get hit, but he has gotten hit quite a bit. He either gets rid of the ball or he kind of just turtles up. And so I think Miles Garrett does it. Let's go. I need that Andrew Siciliano call.

27:50Jourdan Rodrigue:Also, you mentioned, I tried not to laugh when you mentioned he is holding the ball a little bit longer and sort of manufacturing some of these explosive plays. Everyone looks like they're holding onto the ball longer when you're watching Philip Rivers play football the last couple of weeks. Absolutely. I love watching it and they're still getting it done. I have to, I hate to do it, but you do have to give a rod a little bit. Yeah. And we, and we joked last week when he, he, he frustratedly looked over at Arthur Smith throwing it short and we're like, Oh, Aaron's not happy. After that, they were going down.

28:25All right. Let's take a quick break. We'll be back on the other side and look at some of the teams at the top of the NFs.

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32:42oh there it is that's right guitar if you're listening to this on the day it comes out it's christmas eve but maybe it's christmas this preview show is gonna age like fine wine. It's going to be good for you all week. You can return to it at any time of the week. So hopefully you've opened up some beautiful presents before settling in for a meaningful Carolina Panthers Week 17 game.

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33:47It's Big Bird calling the game with TJ's brother, JJ Watt. But it is the Seattle Seahawks on the road at the Carolina Panthers. Huge game in the NFC South for back-to-back-to-back weeks for the Carolina Panthers. Greg Rosenthal, they've already beaten the Los Angeles Rams. They're at Bank of America's stadium. Do they do that this week against Salmon Company? I don't think so. The Seahawks have a little extra rest. Hey, at this time of year, you need everything you can get. The Seahawks, if they are the team that we think they are, they win this game. And maybe they don't cover the seven and a half.

34:25That's a big number. But if they're the team we think they are, they do. And it is crazy to look at some of the historical efficiency numbers, for instance. DVOA has the Chargers, I mean the Rams and the Seahawks, as the fifth and sixth best teams through 16 weeks that they've measured since 1978. in which you wouldn't think that because they have the three losses and the four losses. But I do get it because it's pretty rare to see teams this balance, this explosive on offense in the case of the Rams, but certainly explosive for the Seahawks and then dominant on the other side of the ball. Whereas, you know, the Panthers, they have their issues.

35:04It's a weird game in terms of stakes because the Panthers would need the Bucs to lose to the Dolphins and to win this game to clinch the NFC South. So the odds are the this game for the Panthers doesn't really matter that much in terms of playoff seeding, whether they win or lose. But obviously they're not approaching it that way. But for morale. Yes. Yes. And just for they're playing a sport to win the game. Yeah.

35:29Jourdan Rodrigue:Yeah. And also who can ever forget? And Patrick, I know you remember a lot of these, the like storied, uh, developed rivalry between those years that the Seahawks and the Panthers played like once a year for year after year, after year during the Cam Newton era, like, and the fan bases were always at each other and the Panthers just haven't been good in forever. And now they are feisty, right? They are feisty. And they know that even if this doesn't necessarily affect in a significant way, the playoff seating specifically, this is a team that is on a roll right now. Bryce Young is playing some of the best football, certainly of his, of his career and has made, especially when he's using his legs, which he's going to have to against the Seahawks defense.

36:13Jourdan Rodrigue:He's made some plays out of structure, scrambled drill plays really starting to click with his receivers. So I still need to see a complete game from across the board. But where I really think this is a sneaky, interesting matchup is Gray Zabel is a really good player, right? He's a really promising offensive lineman. He's playing guard. He's awesome, right? We like Gray Zabel. Kind of struggled a little bit the last couple of weeks. And Derek Brown, who's having one of the most underrated seasons of any defensive player in the NFL this year, is on the other side and has made multiple game-wrecking plays against opponents of this quality.

36:49Jourdan Rodrigue:He did it against the Bucs. He did against the Rams. That is a danger zone to circle on your play sheet. And as your Everett's called great games against this division this season where you go back to that Monday night game. Yeah, it's like, hey, give me back in there. But I think about that game against the 49ers where J.C. Horn, as well as Mike Jackson, made those great plays on the ball, kind of confusing the look for Brock Purdy. And a chance to do that up against the, you know, We just saw a really good pass rush go up against Sam Darnold, and the Seahawks seemingly scored unlimited points in the second half of that game, where I have had some concerns as of late for the Carolina Panthers defense, but you brought it up, and looking back at it, there's a story here.

37:36It was that early in the season, in 2015, people were wondering, is this Panthers thing real? And Cam was up there against the Legion of Boom that came from behind in the fourth quarter. snatch the flag now maybe maybe Bryce does it at home Greg that would be next level we've had so many moments where you just believe in the Panthers a little more and that would be going to like a completely different level and change how the NFC looks it hasn't been a good Seattle offensive line of late overall like run blocking pass blocking but it's weakness on weakness I mean the Panthers are literally dead last in the league in pressure rate they're the worst pressure team in the league But I thought they cooked up to your point.

38:17Evero, some good timely blitzes last week. To me, it's all about Bryce, like going down the field. Like he needs to hit vertical shots. Josh Norris pointed out over the, since week 10, he is right near or at the top of the league in completion percentage on throws over 20 yards on big time. Faux weight. Like he is a walking game winning drive the last couple of weeks. I mean, last couple of seasons. if you get him the ball late in the game, he finds a way to win it.

38:49Jourdan Rodrigue:Calling him Carolina Reaper down there locally. I hope it sticks. That's kind of bad-ass. The run game for the Seahawks. You'd like to see it get better a little bit. I wonder if maybe the Panthers run game turned around a little bit. Last week was like a 50 % success rate, which was an improvement after really struggling. They're going to need it. I think to compete with the Seahawks. The thing about the Panthers is I picked the Seahawks nine times out of 10. that one time you catch them on the wrong week the panthers have been that team you catch them on that one week and they will make you pay for it well it's uh gonna be back-to-back games for the seattle excuse me for the carolina panthers in a revenge against the matt rule era where it didn't work out for baker mayfield we'll see what sam can do and speaking of baker uh his stamp of a buccaneers five and a half point favorites on the road against the miami dolphins and Quinn Ewers, 46 and a half is the number.

39:40Kenny Albert and Jonathan Vilma on this call, Jordan. Are the Buccaneers going to look better on offense?

39:48Jourdan Rodrigue:Baker ball is not rolling, my friends. In fact, it is looking kind of sad and disappointing. The Tampa Bay Buccaneers, to me, it's hard to figure out what exactly the problem is. I think they have issues on defense, of course, but they just keep making their own mistakes. It is penalties. It is false starts. It's receivers running. And, you know, the quarterback and the receivers are on different pages. It's Baker pressing and trying to make throws that aren't necessarily there, pushing and maybe sailing a couple of throws. It is just not smooth the way that it looked the entirety of the season.

40:29Jourdan Rodrigue:The first part of the season, I mean, the entirety of the season, I think they would settle for consistency. because they're not even putting things together in a way that makes sense to me because of all of the pieces that they do have on that offense and they have big-time issues on defense. Last week was so strange for them because I think Baker played his best game maybe in a couple months, but they didn't ask him to do anything. I was like, Baker's actually playing pretty well, and he was like 10 for 14 for 80 yards. But he wasn't making any mistakes. It was almost like they had a couple short throws on third and long, and I was like, ooh, they're putting the governor on Baker.

41:06That's a bad sign. The only thing I'd push back with the Buccaneers is I've kind of settled on, like, the one thing they did well was win crazy games in the fourth quarter, and now they're just losing crazy games. They've been straight mediocre all along, and if you look at all the efficiency numbers and stuff, they're very much like team number 16 to 20 in the NFL and everything, like rushing, passing, defense, offense. They're just like a mediocre team, And the players, like, they're good players. You look at them. But at this point, I'm kind of trusting that that is who they are, which is why I do not like five and a half points in this game.

41:40And it would not surprise me at all if the Dolphins just end their season here. But even then, they actually would need the Panthers to win to end their season.

41:48Jourdan Rodrigue:They could lose this and still be alive. That would be so depressing. Where, okay, Quinn Ewers had a terrible third quarter. Let's not sugarcoat that at all. The Dolphins overall had a terrible third quarter. five or four turnovers, including one on downs and the Bengals scored every single time out of those possessions. Um, I will say the first half Quinn years look like quality backup quarterback material. And I think where the bucks are a little bit vulnerable is right in the middle of the field. And they're, they're very good. Those rookie corners on the perimeter and, and they've been playing well.

42:21Jourdan Rodrigue:And Jamel Dean is obviously awesome, but like they, he is not afraid to laser throw it on these little slants all day long. If his receivers win, he's getting them the ball. And I think, you know, our friend who was on the show, Cody Alexander, worked a lot with Quinn Ewers coming out, trying to read some of these older school pressures and defenses, where I think he's going to not be so frazzled by some of the stuff that Todd Bowles can bring because he's been studying it even back when he was in college. They are picking on Levante David and Sarasi Dennis every week. Yeah. Unfortunately. Levante Davis had a good career.

42:56But if you look at who's on the wrong side, a lot of these scores that they're giving up, it's him. I actually have more concerns with the Miami defense. I don't know. I have a lot of concerns in general in this game. But we get into little streaks of the season. It's like, oh, the Dolphins defense is actually playing pretty well since this. The whole season matters more. And in the end, they're 26th in EPA on defense. They're 22nd EPA per play. They're kind of getting run over the last couple of weeks. But I don't know what to think of this game other than I think it's a toss-up, despite Quinn Ewers.

43:29Well, the score would indicate one thing, but clearly the Dolphins' defense was overmatched last week with T. Higgins and Jamar Chase, and most teams would find themselves in that situation with Burrow playing well. But the Dolphins have 56.7 % of their receiving yards coming after the catch. And the way that folks have targeted Levante David and going running side to side. Yeah. Yeah. Major danger. Well, that's what Mike Daniel wants to do.

43:58Jourdan Rodrigue:He wants to get Quinn Ewers to just slant him to death on these yak plays. Get him moving across the, you know, side, like you said, side to side, and just, like, have him slant him to death. And HN. Potential huge HN game. To the outside. It's less about vibes, but just more that, like, if the Bucs were going to show us, oh, where are the real Bucs? I feel like they would have by now. I've kind of like they actually could make the playoffs very easy. Like they could lose this game and make the play. They could find a way to win that game. But I don't know. Just we haven't seen it. And whatever Todd Bowles is doing isn't really working on defense.

44:36All right. Bucks, try extra hard just for good. The Philadelphia Eagles going on the road to take on the Buffalo Bills were favored by one and a half. It is Fox Uno, Kevin Burkhart and Tom Brady. the the bills didn't do much. Josh Allen had an x-ray at halftime narrowly squeezed out a win against the Cleveland Browns. Eagles playing much better. What do you think, Greg? I love this matchup. It's going to be one of the most watched games of the year because it's the only 425 game. It's basically opposite. Like we're all just going to be watching this game in the window. And this is the good on good matchup.

45:14It is the very good bills offense for all the problems that they have. Like it's by far the stronger side. It's a top five unit and it's a great offensive line against this Eagles defense where like the four man pass rush for the Eagles hasn't been amazing. I would say the last handful of weeks, like it's, it, it hasn't been as dominant, but overall they're a dominant defense against a really good offensive line. And you're probably getting Jalen Carter and Lane Johnson back for this game. If the reporting around the team is right. And so whatever issues that Josh Allen and this offense are having in terms of everything is so condensed.

45:51Talk about air yards per attempt. Like he is dead last or first, depending on how you want to say it, since I think week 12. And it's not even close. Like Aaron Rodgers is second to last and Josh Allen is throwing for the fewest air yards per attempt. What have they done with our big, beautiful boy?

46:09Jourdan Rodrigue:Actually, I'd like to I'd like to pose through the question back to you because I have theories. but why do you think they are so truncated down? Because that's what's their best way to win. Yeah, it's maximizing the efficiency, really. And listen, when I say that, it's not a compliment because we'd love to see them sail the ball down the field, but it is actually the highest probability play other than pressing the button that can win them games without having to press the button the entire time. Wait, do we have Eric on a mic for this show? Because you had a take that I think is germane. It's truncated because nobody can catch the damn ball.

46:53He's basically like wide receivers sink. I did say they suck. I turned it down. And James Cook is way better at everything than the wide receivers are at most things. And the tight ends are better than the wide receivers too. And I'm almost not including Khalil Shakir in the wide receivers because he's on the inside. It's the boundary. The whole idea of dad strength, Khalil Shakir has been worse since he welcomed the baby into this world. I've been there. New father stuff. He's tired, man. Something on the research. Now he's seen what this whole fatherhood. I think it was Kincaid or Knox had a baby.

47:23It's even and out. But Shakir needs something, man. You need to take a nap. We're in maximum fan mode. I love that.

47:29Jourdan Rodrigue:It's like a Reddit board come to life. But yeah, like, let's be honest. We're going to see that this week. Like, oh, yeah, let's dial up Tyrell Shavers on Quinone Mitchell. Like, no, this is. and we love the button. We celebrate the button. The button went in at halftime. Yeah, we'll go there. We'll do phrasing. It's 2025. Where Josh is getting x-rays at halftime. Yeah. Like, come on. Well, you know, it's crazy. Give the man some help. Your colleague, Joe Basalia, had some numbers on the boundary receivers and who's been coming in and out. Remember when they brought in Brandon Cooks? That was fun.

48:03He's had one catch this year. Gabe Davis, remember when he was in the mix? He was back to a healthy scratch. So was Keon Coleman. So if you add up all the names that have been out there, and that includes like Curtis Samuel at some point and Shavers, you're talking about, if you add up all eight boundary receivers that have played for them this year and turn them into one person, that one person would only be seventh in the NFL and receiving yards. That's, that's what they've gotten from all their wide receivers combined. That's, that's insane. George Pickens is like, see you later. Six guys, eight guys, whatever it is.

48:38Jourdan Rodrigue:You know who should pay Alex Pierce? Yeah, that'd be good. Honestly, at a certain point, you're doing yourself a disservice because I know like Keon hasn't necessarily done everything that you want to do. Let's not have Josh in this situation. Like you want to like be the firm truth teller and like, oh, we need Keon to perform this, that and the other way. There's been multiple games where they've looked like absolutely nothing. And those games have something in common. Let's flip the sides before we finish with the minute and talk about, you know, Philadelphia's matchup against a Bills defense.

49:11that has its shortcomings, but their old guys have been making plays. Like Jordan Poyer, he said it. He's like, this season feels like a movie to me.

49:22Jourdan Rodrigue:The old dads are, the dads that, you know, are like more like, you know, unks at this point, you know, are the ones holding it down. They're making it. If I'm following the thread correctly, Eric. They're making it happen. And you wonder with Lane Johnson back, like, can you get a real running game? Going which Eagles offense do we see? I mean, it makes sense for both teams. It's going to be more effective to run. James Cook, by the way, leading the league in rushing. You know, this close to the new year, it is time for introspection, I think. And on this game, I think, you know, which phase is just going to let me down the least?

49:57Jourdan Rodrigue:That's going to win the game. Either the Bills defense or the Eagles offense. Whoever lets us down the least will win this game. So negative. That's the attitude I'm going into the negative with low expectations, baby. I got high expectations. I think this will be a great one. I'm, I'm a little surprised the bills are favored in this game, but I still like, if this was the super bowl, I would be surprised. Certainly. But also, but I think it's on the table. Like I, it's on the table in a way that like, I'd be more surprised if I saw like the Texans or the chargers. Certainly. Hey, well, one team that might, that Greg did not mention, could potentially play in this upcoming Super Bowl.

50:38The New England Patriots. I'd be more surprised to see them, yeah. Favored by 13 and a half against the New York Jets, Jordan. The over-under is 42 and a half. Adam Amin and Greg Rosenthal's great friend and colleague, Drew Brees, on the call. Neither. Why are you even putting me there? Because you coach him up. I've been saying he's been getting better. Yeah, you coach him up to give advice, and he has been getting better thanks to your efforts. Do the Jets get better against Greg's Patriots, Jordan?

51:03Jourdan Rodrigue:No. Oh, okay. No. No, this should be, this is the kind of game where if you're New England, you don't overlook it, obviously, but you do the thing that you need to do, which is be a good team that beats bad teams. And that is what they've done. And they've done it in different ways. And once you got towards the latter part of the year, you know, actually even in the middle, when we thought the Panthers were a bad team in different games there where they were winning by a lot, they have to win these two games to win the division. It's a little confusing. If they were going to have lost the game, it was last week.

51:39They could have kind of dealt with the Ravens and win these two games to win. But because of division record, they cannot slip up here against the Jets and Dolphins. And there's even a scenario where they, you know, the Bills could lose this week because it's an out-of-conference game. That's really not going to hurt them. And they could still win the division, the Bills, next week if the Patriots stub their toe and lose either of these games. Obviously, the Jets, it seems less likely. They are as close to tanking as any team could be because I think they're playing a quarterback in Brady Cook that just doesn't give them as good a chance to win as another quarterback who's active, and that's Therod Taylor.

52:17So that's about as close to tanking as it gets. They have not shown a ton of life on offense.

52:22Jourdan Rodrigue:On the Patriots' side, a couple injuries, pretty significant ones to look out for. As we're recording this right before we're recording this, Mike Vrabel said that Travion Henderson, who left the game, Kayshaun Booty and Jared Wilson are all in the concussion protocol, which, you know, obviously you're going to just keep an eye on that. Morgan Moses, their right tackle left that game, so they could be down like three offensive line. And Will Campbell is not back. I think they're hoping he's back for the playoffs. They've really missed Robert Spillane at linebacker just because the big drop off.

52:55But they might get Milton Williams back this week. It's interesting that if they would play him in this game, but maybe you don't give him a full compliment of snaps. He is practicing. They sounded pretty optimistic about it. And yeah, it'd be great for Drake May to just go out there and put up a big number like he did last week. That was his first 300-yard game of the season. Put it up on a bad defense. There haven't been many times where they've actually asked him to do something like that. And while we know it's a bad defense, perhaps a lot of scribes, Greg, watching that game on Sunday Night Football.

53:31Just noticed that he was just throwing for those numbers. 300 yards, an important game. After Matt Stafford comes off a loss, we don't go negative on the conversation points. Yeah. But Drake May has pulled within 15 points of Matthew Stafford. And when I say bad, I mean this defense is bad. That was a good performance against Baltimore.

53:51Jourdan Rodrigue:How many points? I'm not saying this is going to happen, Greg. Yeah. But how many points would we knock Drake May if he gives the Jets their first interception of the entire season, which they have not gotten yet. I think we would knock him. I think that's fair. I have been noticing among the tape heads out there, it does seem a little more split than the Vegas odds would indicate. I think Drake May is going to get his share of first place votes if the voting was today, because there's just a great case to be made for both. But the one for him is watching how he navigates the pocket. And that kind of reminds you of like what he's overcoming.

54:27And that's a bad offensive line and not like the best looking group on paper of receivers and that he's doing a lot on his own. So a big performance would help.

54:37Jourdan Rodrigue:If you I one of my favorite things ever is when a quarterback who's good at that shows his work and like draws it out for the viewer. If you watch the sort of all 22 toward the quarterback angle of any of these past past protection snaps and any of these drops where he's navigating the pocket, he literally is drawing you a map of how he's navigating the pocket. It is so exaggerated in the best way where to your point, you can exactly see he's, he's showing his work. Matthew Stafford does the same thing. Just saying. He is one of the best I've ever seen at how he does it. Burrow entering the league was amazing.

55:18I think it's Brady's super duper power. It's what made him Brady. But to do it with kind of the extra athleticism that May has. He's got a chance. He's got a chance. Conversation. The conversation is happening right now. Just not a lot of conversation about the New York Jets. Let's take a quick break and we're going to come back. We're going to talk about a banger of a Sunday night football game. A game so good. I think they flexed into it, right? Bears, 49ers. They didn't flex, but they should have. This would have been the game they picked.

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1:00:16Sometimes the right game. Oh, yeah, this rocks. Oh, Christmas rocking. Wow. Greg's not a fan of the Christmas. No, I like it. It rocks. It's the Christmas house band that we have. Live in studio. Locked up all year that we take out just for this moment. Sometimes a game like Bears 49ers. incarcerated. It's a lot going on.

1:00:44Jourdan Rodrigue:It's a real Christmas village. If this game happened in like week six, it would just be like, oh, okay. You know, sometimes it's happening at the perfect time as these two teams are absolutely cresting and there is so much at stake. The Bears trying to win the NFC North. There's a possibility they will already want it if the Packers lost on Saturday. but either way, the bears are playing for essentially a playoff victory, which would be a one seed. Cause they still very much have a chance at doing that, a going to Santa Clara to face a 49ers team that has snuck up on everyone. And they've put the Rams into third place in the NFC West.

1:01:26The 49ers just have to win out just to get the one seed. They're going to, they have a hard road to do it and it would have to beat the bears and Seahawks. And these are the types of playoff previews that I'm talking about. And we talked coach of the year with Ollie Connelly. This is a coach of the year off. And we might have another one in week 18 between Mike McDonald and the winner of that little round robin might just get coach of the year. Everything is on the table. Patrick, when you look at. Oh, I don't know. When you when you look at like this game. What do you think is the best group in this game?

1:02:04The best group is the Bears' run game. The Bears' run game against this 49ers front where they've had to deal with a lot. And I understand they really had Phillip Rivers and the Colts late in the game, you know, going the other direction. But I think it's an opportunity for Ben Johnson and company, who would be my pick for coach of the year. Kyle's got so many vets. Like, I don't think Trent Williams and Brock Purdy and all those guys, George Kittle, they come back, they get healthy. It's not like you've got to reteach them football. Yeah, but they all missed parts of the year and they won games like either without him or with them playing her.

1:02:41And I do give a little credit for like the multi-year process. Maybe you shouldn't, but like that he identified the right people to have in that system anyway. Oh, no, I'm just acknowledging the farcical nature of the voting for this award. That's essentially like, hey, you did the most with the least. But it's like we got a couple of guys going to Canton. I don't know that it's fair to say. Well, that's what I mean. It's why be the change. We talked about it and you can pick any. We don't need to make this a coach of the year discussion, but it is a good, a good one to keep an eye. Cause I would, I think right now the 49ers passing attack and their offense in general might be even better.

1:03:16Like their best is maybe better than the bears best. And, and considering both defenses could be weak spots. I know the bears have created a lot more turnovers that maybe that's good enough to win in a shootout.

1:03:28Jourdan Rodrigue:When I'm thinking about the 49ers personnel on defense, the size of their personnel on defense, particularly in the second and third levels, the inexperience of their defense, particularly in the second and third levels, and their lack of size on the edges in some of those wider zone runs that we know and mid-zone that Ben Johnson likes to run. And then I look at DeAndre Swift, who's at 993 yards, and Kyle Menungay, who's at 731 yards. And DeAndre Swift is running at a 96%, excuse me, a 47.1, woo, success rate. and Kyle Menunga is running at a 46.5 % success rate. The two-headed monster in Chicago, to me, is the dominating force in this game and Bob Sala has to dedicate every single trick he has in the book, other than magic beans that grow people larger, to go and take care of this run game because it is a monster.

1:04:22Swift heard that trash you were talking early in the season about him. Like the first month of the season, DeAndre Swift was taking some shots on this show.

1:04:29Jourdan Rodrigue:Oh, when he has been when he wasn't running for what he was blocked for. It's yeah, it's well, that was Ben Johnson. And then Jordan kind of clarifying and highlighting what you're welcome. DeAndre Swift is like the streakiest running back ever. He's this is the best stretch of his career, though. He is awesome. And Manunga is pushing him. I think there is something to be said for that. You see it sometimes when a veteran player is like wanting to find that little extra lever. Right. Again, and regain it. And it's just it's hard to have it on all the time. Right. At a certain point. And Kyle Menungay comes in and he is physical and he can be explosive, but he is running through people.

1:05:08Jourdan Rodrigue:It is both of these guys together are buoying the offensive line, which is in turn reflected in the way that they're blocking. They've really come together as a unit. And I do think this is the number one advantage of both sides of this game. It's easier to lean on the lever when you don't have to be on the field all the time. And Kyle McGonaghy allows DeAndre Swift to get those breaks to be explosive, where we saw the 49ers being super explosive. And I know Brock loves to take chances. He doesn't get gunslinger credit because the arm's not as big. But I don't think Brock can make the type of, oh, George down there somewhere.

1:05:43All right, Juwan, go get that against Nashawn Wright and Brisker and the rest of this Bears secondary. I think they will get the ball a couple times. And how about pro bowler Kevin Byard getting it done late in his career? They have three pro bowlers, and it was Drew Dahlman, first Pro Bowl, the center, and Joe Tooney. And then how about Kevin Byard in the back end? The thing I've really been impressed about Brock since he's come back and he got that first game out of the way, really, is his decision making. I don't think he's taking too many chances. I know there was a throw or two in the Indianapolis game, but he was right to trust the guys there, and it wasn't too much.

1:06:19He's playing really high-level football, And I think both of these quarterbacks are not going to face much of a pass rush. But Purdy, because of his experience and the players around him, and his coach, to me, against a team with no pass rush, they could actually do what the Packers did a little bit, which is keep that Bears offense off the field. That first half really stands in my mind. And I know they blew one situation near the goal line. But they were averaging like seven yards for play against the Packers. And they didn't have any points because the Packers were going on these long drives.

1:06:48And I do think the 49ers could do that, especially if they have Kittle. Kittle had an ankle sprain in that game. He said afterwards he does not think it's a high ankle sprain. So knowing him, he'll probably play through it. But you hope he's 100%. I like that you said that, Greg, because this is an opportunity for the most with Juszczyk,

1:07:08Jourdan Rodrigue:Kittle potentially, McCaffrey on the field, the potential for the vintage, Kyle Shanahan, yeah, you got Matt LaFleur once, but you ain't getting me. suffocation ball game. Seen it before? Could see it again. And the Bears have one big advantage here. Well, first of all, they get a couple extra days rest. That's a nice one. Secondly, they've been in these fights, these games, game after game, week after week, and no slight to Phillip Rivers here. But the 49ers, I went and checked this. I was like, when was the last time they played a close game? It was like week four or five. every single game, whether they win or lose.

1:07:48And they did get beaten a couple of times with Mac and with Brock. Like it hasn't been close. They haven't been in a close game since that Rams comeback in week five. It's just kind of a weird thing that if it came down to the end, the Bears do have a little magic.

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1:08:42Enter for a chance to win at toyotagamedaygiveaways.com. No purchase necessary. Void where prohibited. Ends 2-8-26. Open to legal residents of the 50 U.S. states and D.C., 18 and over. For complete details, how to enter, prizes, and official rules, visit toyotasgamedaygiveaways.com. I never let you introduce this game. No, it's fine. I was excited. But it's a three-point favorite for the 49ers. I mean, if you're excited, I'm going to do it again. Let's go. So the Rams are favored by seven and a half points in this game. They're going to the Falcons in Atlanta draft pick. It's all happening. Joe Buck, Troy Aikman on the call.

1:09:24I'm introducing it just to feel a little more alive in this holiday week. Jordan, can you imagine any scenario where the Falcons keep this close and make the Rams sweat it out? I mean,

1:09:37Jourdan Rodrigue:I've seen weird Rams games before. They lost to the Panthers this year. So, I mean, like, you know, it's, but I, the Rams are, uh, well, the vibe that I got talking to people in the building at the end of last week, angry as hell. And, um, also this is a, first of all, this is a draft pick game. Winning this helps them in the short and the long-term game. This is a Matthew Stafford did not get a chance to be the one with the ball in his hands at the end of the game, which salts at him. Like you guys would not freaking believe. and this is also Sean McVay getting a little bit more sleep this week.

1:10:12Jourdan Rodrigue:Game. Oh, against his, another, the baby is the reason for the line. I mean, they literally put up 581 yards. We're on baby stat watch. Um, and this, but this is, uh, Sean McVay against Raheem Morris. This is Chris Shula against Zach Robinson. The connections across the line of scrimmage for both of these coaching staffs. I respectfully say I give that edge to the Rams every single time. Regardless, if you're going to say entering the season, you're just looking at these matchups, you know, scheme over scheme, it's going to be McVay and the Rams. Kind of sad because he can help, you know, make this Falcons coaching staff, which is coaching for its jobs, look bad with a big time win.

1:10:54And yet you're right. They are angry. They are going to be trying a little bit harder. Let's listen to Sean McVay. This is in an interview with our friend JB Long during the week.

1:11:04Jourdan Rodrigue:And that's irregardless of whether we won or not. I could point to a handful of plays that if we make them, but you know what we didn't? We're not victims. We're not going to make excuses. That's not who we are. That's not how we're wired. You give Seattle credit, but make no mistake about it. This is going to strengthen us. And I just, I know it. Greg, you asked me. He knows it. You asked me at the end of our recap of the Thursday night game, which you could catch over on the NFL's stream and main channel. I know there were some concerns that we did not cover that game. We cover every game, guys.

1:11:43Jourdan Rodrigue:We cover every game. I'm glad you brought this up. Just a little programming note. The live YouTube ones are now listed under the NFL's official handle, but ours as well. If you can go to the NFL Daily and scroll down, if you look at the collaborations, you'll see our Monday night recap, Colts and 49ers, and you will see the one now they are collaborating. So you can find out the, just look at the bottom of the page. Hello. Hi. Sorry about us in advance, but we like you and we're happy you're here. You asked me at, during that recap, what do you think Sean McVay is going to be the angriest about?

1:12:16Jourdan Rodrigue:And I said, oh, he's going to be so mad at special teams. He won't even be able to see. Well, he fired his special teams coordinator. The first coordinator change that Sean McVay has ever made during the season. Chase Blackburn had been with the team for a couple of seasons. and someone named Ben Katwika is taking over. And they're going to get some help with an assistant coming in who was with the 49ers at one point. But this is a massive change to make, but they've lost multiple games this season. Actually, all of their losses, special teams, was a big contributor in those losses. Now, there are other reasons why they lost, obviously, but I think that Sean McVay had just had enough at this point.

1:13:00I think there's a lot of Rams fans that said about it. Shouldn't you have thought about this in the offseason?

1:13:04Jourdan Rodrigue:Yeah, I think there's a lot of logical people that think that. I think that's generally true because it's the defense against the dark arts position in the NFL. We see special teams coordinators go after wins, after losses. It's constant just being rotated in and out where it's like, really, was it this week? The plan just went that wrong this week that led to this? Also, it just seems like an organizational lack of emphasis. One minute. The way he talks about some teams, some organizations emphasize special teams in the way that they construct their rosters. And even when you hear Sean McVay talk about it, it really stuck in my craw when they just decided to not compete on the kickoff last year.

1:13:44They're just like, we don't want to try. Then just like it's very anti-football.

1:13:48Jourdan Rodrigue:I would say that the number one way to solve this problem is if Sean McVay himself spent more time on this problem. That's what I'm saying. He helps everything. And ultimately, look, their offense is in an incredible place, and they're playing a defense with a lot of holes. And on the other side, they're playing against the Falcons offense that has been solid with Kirk Cousins, maybe even a little better. He's not making mistakes. It was mostly near the line of scrimmage last week and has big-time players. Kyle Pitts might get over 1 ,000 yards. And shout-out to Bijan Robinson. Just wanted to recognize this.

1:14:25He is the first player and only the second player in NFL history, along with Marshall Falk. If he can land the plane to average five yards per carry and 10 yards per catch in a season with at least like 200 rushes and 60 catches, he is over 2000 yards on the season. He can make any good scheme look bad. And he's just been dialing up about 170 yards every single week. He is incredible.

1:14:50Jourdan Rodrigue:Posting identical stats, Bajon Robinson. Pay the man. You okay? Jordan making sure everything's all right. Everything's not all right for the Arizona Cardinals. The defense has fallen off, Greg. The offense took its turn last week. They are seven-point dogs at the Cincinnati Bengals. The over-under is 53-and-a-half. Kevin Coogler and Moose Johnston on the call. How's this one go? It goes with a lot of points scored by the Cincinnati Bengals. Having fun. You know what? I took away from that game in Miami. What was that? It's like, he's moving really well. Remember he had a foot injury earlier this year.

1:15:29He's got the special shoe, but he's always moved well, but he talked about that coming into this season. And I thought it showed up early this season before he had the injury that I think he was looking even more athletic than he did earlier in his career. And he's always, you know, obviously moved well in the pocket, but I just think like, it's another level. Kind of like we saw Lamar go up a level. I thought last year going into the year, it's incredible. And this Cardinals defense is just giving up like a 40 burger every week. It is tough.

1:16:01Jourdan Rodrigue:The Cardinals just signed Josh Cardi, the disgraced Rams kicker. Why is he disgraced? That would mean he did something bad. He didn't do anything bad. The Cardi party was a fun time. I mean, if he was a kicker for any other franchise, you wouldn't have called him disgraced. Josh Cardi is a very nice young man, and I think he's going to have a great career ahead of him. I watched him at senior bowl all the way. I watched every, probably every kick and every, you know, warmup kick of his entire career. And I think he's going to do just fine. However, when you're signed by the Cardinals late in the season, it does not look good for you in that moment of time.

1:16:38Jourdan Rodrigue:It's with this Cardinals team. Also Garrett Williams, unfortunately it's an Achilles injury and he's going to be on injured reserve to finish out the season as will be Walter Nolan. So super, super disappointing season in so many ways for the Cardinals, but also two of their best players. Obviously, Walter Nolan really, really sparked when he was healthy. And Garrett Wilson is, excuse me, Garrett Williams is one of, you know, the more underrated corners in the league. Really tough, tough scene for Arizona for a lot of reasons, but more injury woes continue. It stinks for the next coach if it's not Jonathan Gannon.

1:17:15And I know Ian Rappaport thought, you know, in his report, kind of summing up everything that there might not be changes. This is on track to be the worst Arizona Cardinals team of all time, which is hard to believe. But in terms of the record, I think it's the 17th game gets it worse. But if they don't win another game, they are the worst team. They are, by the way, without Kyler Murray in the Jonathan Gannon era. I mean, it's hard to just they've played 19 games without Kyler Murray in the Gannon era. Do you want to guess how many they have won out of those 19 games?

1:17:47Jourdan Rodrigue:Three. Three. Two. Oh, see, we were optimistic. Oh, but see, that was the cause of the whole vibe positivity in the desert, right? It was all Kyler's fault. And now finally, that bad guy Kyler Murray is gone, and the team can get back to being professional and losing all of these games. But they did have one positive note. Although Trey McBride's streak got snapped, he's going to stop at 16 games with five or more receptions. Elijah Higgins played pretty well. So there's somebody to load up with targets. And they're playing against the defense that's now fallen down to the second highest blitz rate behind the Minnesota Vikings, the Atlanta Falcons.

1:18:22And nobody's gotten blitz more than Jacoby this year. And shout out to all the fantasy owners who have been riding that steady like 20 points a week from Jacoby. I mean, he is he's going to get it done for you. And this week it could be even a little extra. Also, a little tank-a-thon impact on this game. This is involving the teams that currently have the number six pick and the number nine pick. Ah, this was too strong.

1:18:44Jourdan Rodrigue:I should have used cast out. It's going to bother me. There's a few. The McVay castaways. The castaway. The list grows. Yeah, there's a full island of them at this point. That'd be a good show segment. Adds a special teams coach this week. Liam Cohen swam back. One of those teams that's not the Bucs in the NFC South that is playing significantly better at this point in the season is the New Orleans Saints. Also, every team in the South, other than the Bucs, playing pretty well right now. The Saints favored by two and a half on the road against Jordan, the Tennessee Titans, who just thrashed the defending AFC champions, albeit without either one of their quarterbacks.

1:19:19Andrew Catalan, Charles Davis, and Jason McCourty on the call to the Titans, who famously didn't have a legitimate win earlier this year, according to our friend Greg Rosenthal, get a back-to-back win against the Saints this week.

1:19:33Jourdan Rodrigue:You know, I think they have a shot, But guess what? I've been describing the Tennessee Titans in this way all year, I think. But you know what I think of the New Orleans Saints at this juncture, Patrick? What's that? Creditable. A creditable group. They are impressing me. The New Orleans Saints every week seem to improve in some form or fashion in every phase. Credit to them. Creditable. And it's all about the quarterback. Like if, if Tyler Shuck wasn't playing like this, it would, it'd be nice that you're winning some games. You probably wouldn't have been winning these games if he wasn't playing like this.

1:20:08Cause he is the reason that they won a few, but let's say like last week against the Jets, they're winning nine, six at halftime. He doesn't really look that good in the first half. His passes are a little all over the place. He might be playing through an injury and then he balls out in the second half. And he, when he, he throws a pretty ball and I think it's going to be important for him to get to the finish line here. After all the injuries that he went through in college, he has taken some big hits. We're going to talk about Jackson Dart. And some of the big hits that these guys take are in the pocket.

1:20:39It's not running or anything. It's true less so, I think, of Cam Ward. Even though he's taken a lot of sacks, I think he avoids it better. He's coming off his best game of the year. But yeah, I think Chuck just keeping this excellent level of play going and getting to the finish line healthy, I think is going to be big. These are, you know, the two best rookie quarterbacks in the league right now. Yeah. And maybe an opportunity for somebody to stake that claim as the best rookie quarterback.

1:21:07Jourdan Rodrigue:Ooh, conversation subplot. Wait, I do have something about this. This offensive rookie of the year chatter, the Saints fans, because they haven't had much to root for, are really getting in on this. Like Chuck should be offensive rookie of the year. This, that, and the other. He's actually bumped up pretty high in the odds for whatever that's worth. I think he's up to second or third where he's like not really that far behind. I think he's second right now. I think that's crazy. I think to win rookie of the year playing only nine games, and that's assuming he plays the next two, your performance would have to be so exceptional that then you get into that conversation and you win it.

1:21:44If you miss half the season, I'm not hearing it if there's other good candidates. And also, more of those nine games would need to be good. Albeit Tyler Shuck has played pretty good here once we got into the stretch run. Creditable, if you will. Those first few, not up there. Meanwhile, T-Mac has the Carolina Panthers contending for a playoff spot, and he's been their clear number one. If you averaged out a Tyler Shuck game and gave him 17 of those, I would listen to it. Maybe that is the rookie of the year, but I agree with your point. It's not too amazing. Speaking of rookie classes, while we go deep on this Titans-Saints game, also important for Tankathon, I think Harbaugh, he'd be an interesting pick in Tennessee, by the way.

1:22:26They are only the second team in the Super Bowl era to have three rookies with at least 300 receiving yards. Elek Iow Manor, of course, Jameri Dike, and then Gunnar Helm, who's been kind of frisky at tight end. And they all made some plays for Cam Ward last week. So if you could guess the other team, I would give you a lot.

1:22:50Jourdan Rodrigue:In this era? In the Super Bowl era? I'll give you a big-time hint. It was in the last five years. Trivia. This is where they just play the 15 seconds later. Yeah. It was the Packers a couple years ago. Oh, that makes sense. It just happened. Everybody eats Packers. I think the Titans win. Big upset pick on game debut. Oh. Wow. If only somebody picked the Titans to win against the Kansas City Chiefs. Good job by you. Good job by you. The antithesis of Everybody Eats, folks are starving. It is the New York Giants on the road taking on the Las Vegas Raiders who are favored by one and a half because the Giants offense, it was going up against Flores' defense was Kafka-esque yesterday.

1:23:36I mean, last week, where it was bizarre, uniquely horrible. Kevin Harlan and Trent Green there. The over-under is 41 and a half. What do we do with this, Greg? We watch. Do we? We don't watch. We think about the professionalism of Kevin Harlan.

1:23:59Jourdan Rodrigue:Oh. Who was, what was he, what game was he on last week? Whatever. The best one because he was calling it. Yeah. Whatever it was, it didn't have any, it was the Titans Chiefs now that I remember. He approached that with all the energy and enthusiasm and great calls that he does every week. And they put him on this game. They're still higher up on the big man with a lot of hair. High up on the totem pole because these are two big markets. It actually, you know, this is not the bottom game. And this could very well decide the number one overall draft pick. This is one and two in tank-a-thon. The only two teams with only two wins this season.

1:24:36So it matters a lot. And the Raiders are coming in with some momentum after a good performance on both sides of the ball.

1:24:45Jourdan Rodrigue:I just I'd like to to imagine if you will some one-liners from Kevin Harlan that could be possible oh okay during this game um just off the dome I'm thinking you know and it's Pete Carroll getting the butt slap you know or uh you know Max Crosby a menace like we don't need no stinking tank uh for someone uh who's gonna have a big performance here where the Giants were in that game purely because I don't know who it was where this offensive line was JJ McCarthy. They just leave Brian Burns on the end of the line and McCarthy is not looking at him. Brian Burns clearly like there's nothing impeding him at all, but it's a screen.

1:25:27It's a screen and they explain that he it was kind of unfortunate. It was a screen. It was more than a fortune. That's that's not they always leave like a free rusher on the side on a screen. You got it. You got to get rid of the ball, but he hurt his hand just two plays before and And it was confirmed by KOC. I know we're talking about a team that's in this game, but it was interesting to me. And KOC and JJ confirmed it, and you can see it on tape. He hurts his hand two plays before, and he can't catch the snap in shotgun, and he tries to get the ball with two hands, and he just can't hold the ball, so he's pumping it.

1:26:03And so he knew he was trying to just dirt it because that's what you got to do if the screen's not going to work. And the screen wasn't going to work. There was a defender in his way. And so he's like fumbling with the ball with this injured hand and then just takes a brutal hit. But that's what it takes. It takes that kind of calamity for the Giants to actually score football points.

1:26:22Jourdan Rodrigue:Calamity. Yeah. Again, I don't know that this Raiders defense can simulate what the Vikings were able to do, but not a lot of cause for optimism for late season Jackson Dart and the Giants offense. Dart sacked in the end zone. Calamity. I don't know. Ashton Gentry had some moments. Yeah. A lot of them. Good for him. And Drew Locke, he's doing the opposite of what I was talking about with Shuck. He is struggling to get to the finish line. He is not getting helped out. His entire left side and center of the offensive line was hurt last week. He's not getting protected. But if you look at him in press conferences and then watch him on the field, it has worn him down.

1:27:02He is like, you know, the meme of like the president, a couple, you know, Barack Obama, four years into his term or whatever. That is like Jackson Dart in one year of New York. Like it's a little, he's looks a little weathered right now. And you feel that's the collective pressure of playing in the most important place. That's it. I think it's more playing for an organization that fired the one guy that was actually helping you. And like sneakily, not that I'm like caping for Brian Dable, but they've been kind of lost on offense without Brian Dable. And like, that was his guy, Brian Dable. And if you want to develop a quarterback, it hasn't worked.

1:27:39because he, it was tough to watch. I know it was against Brian Flores, but he looked as lost as any quarterback all season in that game.

1:27:45Jourdan Rodrigue:Are you saying that Jackson Dart's undergoing some sort of a physical metamorphosis? There it is. You know who also wants to put some good tape out there? Who's that? You know, Smith. For all the teams out there, probably a backup next year. Maybe a 1B in a certain scenario. One in our heart. I'd love him to be a backup like on a good team. And then, you know, if anything happens, so be it. He's playing for a job and put out some good tape last week. Sounded like a threat for whoever's starting at it, you know, from Craig. I don't want to see him on the Giants. It would be a shame. Don't bring him back.

1:28:19You lost your chance. They had 15 runs in that game. That was the most preposterous game of the season. I know not many people watched it, but they had 15 runs in that game before they threw a pass. The Giants. Kind of incredible. That was it. This has been incredible. They should have done 16. There were a couple of pass plays where he just didn't get the pass off, but yes. We did it. We did it. We're not tired. We're feeling great.

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