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21:43They got a big victory in the kickoff game, a game that is supposed to be almost impossible for the road team to win. I do love the way their linebackers are playing. I just wanted to give a shout out to Alex Anzalone and Jack Campbell and Derek Barnes, who reminds me of old school 90s football, like a real strong side linebacker over there. And he's just like the bigger guy and he's setting the edge. But Anzalone and especially Campbell have been amazing. And then, yeah, Aiden Hutchinson, not O 'Connell, against your boy Josh Simmons.

22:14Gregg Rosenthal:I'm excited for that. That's excited. I'm excited for that. That's a benchmark game. Because I think he might be my defensive player of the year candidate or pick right now. And that's because they have the fourth highest four-man pressure rate in the entire league, the Detroit Lions. And it's basically one guy. Yeah. I mean, without him, I just feel like it all falls apart. And I think, right, because for Hutchinson, you can go and watch all of the chips and the double protection scheme that Josh Hines-Allen had to deal with on Monday night. I think it's going to be a very similar way that the Chiefs approach him coming up on Sunday.

22:48I am really looking forward to this. The NBC, you know, schedule gods. They've done it again. Looking forward to it. Let's take a quick break. On the other side, we will talk about two teams, which I said I saw in person play American football, like with my eyes over the last couple of weeks.

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28:02Gregg Rosenthal:They're also young and spry now. Yeah, they're young and spry. They got rid of Joe Flacco. They got the problem out. No, just kidding. Joe Flacco now Cincinnati Bengal. It's Dylan Gabriel making his second straight start. First start in the United States of America taking on the Pittsburgh Steelers. Jordan, they are favored by five and a half points. The Steelers got some time off when they are back on the field. Excuse me. an eagle jj watt and evan washburn will be there to see what we get for arthur smith and aaron rogers with a chance to sit back and relax and execute a game plan against a very good defense yeah first and foremost uh for some reason my instagram algorithm kept giving me the clips of jj watt talking about his hair care routine i haven't seen that one they're pretty good he's like pretty i think he's he's pretty solid like good sense of humor about himself like talks about bringing his wife's hair dryer.

28:52He changes his hairstyle a lot. I have noticed that.

28:54Gregg Rosenthal:I appreciate it. I appreciate someone who's confident in themselves on that front. So the biggest thing about this game to me, besides the volume in J.J. Watt's hair, is that Mike Tomlin sounded really optimistic so far this week about getting Alex Heismith, Joey Porter Jr., and Jalen Warren back this week. All three of them have missed at least one game. Joey Porter Jr. has missed three with that hamstring. This is potentially huge. It's potentially the Steelers with, you know, the catbird seat in the AFC North and key players returning on defense at this point. I mean, it's potentially massive for them.

29:30Mike Tomlin was asked about the AFC North picture with the other teams struggling. And he said, I'm not a big picture guy. And I was like, well, shouldn't you be? You're the head coach of a football team. I mean, what would have changed for him?

29:44Gregg Rosenthal:This now explains everything now. You can go ahead and house this one against the Browns because the other teams are bad. It doesn't necessarily. I get it. I get it. I am curious. You guys watch that game, you know, on television and being there. I was really. No, no. You pours. You pours. You presence watched it on your screen. I was. And I was there. Because you see different things if you're home. You see a lot of extra things if you're home. Then you see other extra things if you're there. But I felt like all we talked about on our broadcast was Darnell Washington. in that game. And I really did think their personnel choices in that game led almost directly to how effective they were.

30:26They dominated Minnesota up front and Washington was a huge part of that. They essentially benched John and Fryermuth, although they played it like a heavy personnel the whole time. And man, that offensive line playing that well, it was just one week, but they were moving people. And what a great matchup this is when the, when the Steelers have the ball like I think we can see if that's real if that's a one game offensive improvement was that just a one week game plan because this is as tough of a matchup Patrick like as you can get against this Browns defensive line well I think we'd have to wait for another week because if it doesn't work against the Cleveland Browns we could easily say well the Browns are stronger against the run than sure most teams in the league but it may be like even if it's a draw if they're like if they're not dominated even against the Cleveland Browns yeah and you've come into this game where broderick jones is allowing a high pressure rate relative to rest of the left tackles in the league and so he'll see a lot of miles garrett um in a and kind of a bounce back performance for for coach these defense where um the the vikings put a lot of stuff out there that made them look kind of normal um and seeing uh quinshawn juggins have all the success um that he had on the other side but jordan mason was was moving the ball uh as well i like this Browns team.

31:42I feel like if I had to pick, is this like a one in four team other than the Ravens to turn it around this year and just be like, I think the Browns have a lot of positive ingredients if they can get good play out of Dylan Gabriel, like, like I think they did in his first start.

31:58Gregg Rosenthal:Well, I would agree with you because it's all nice to have if you're Mike Tomlin to have some of these guys, especially Alex Heismith kind of helping bring your front to life a little bit more. But I feel like Dylan Gabriel is going to get the ball out quick. I feel like they're going to try to run the ball with Quinshawn Judkins. And I feel like this is a cool game. You always kind of joke, and I actually really like that you do this. Like, I actually do. I'm sorry. But I do really like that you do this when you're like, oh, that's a Jordan Codic game. Because this kind of is. Okay, you got it.

32:25Actually, no way Chuck might take it.

32:27Gregg Rosenthal:There's a lot, but there's a lot of, like, jokery type of players on both sides of the ball in this game, starting with the tight ends. Because I could really see this being a huge Dylan Gabriel hits Harold Fannin on every single type of concept you could possibly think of as this jokery player, especially if Jalen Ramsey cannot get back from this hamstring issue that he's been dealing with. On the other side, you guys mentioned Mount Washington. Like he he's being used in so many different positions. He's taken handoffs like he's doing all of these different things that are really, really interesting and I think makes these defenses have to think more.

33:06Gregg Rosenthal:But it's not just that they're doing it with scheme and math. They're also really physical football teams, too. Yeah, I love the idea of Darnell Washington being in a meeting room next to Jonu Smith and Arthur Smith looking at both of them and having these visions of running all these fun plays with Darnell Washington, where I am mainly interested in how fast Dylan Gabriel got rid of the ball in his very first start. It was the second fastest time to throw over the course of the game that we've seen all season. And making his first career start on the road internationally against Brian Flores, his defense, where it's is that is it was that an anomaly?

33:47Like, are we going to get a whole lot of, you know, chips on T.J. Watt and quick passes to Fannin and Njoku?

33:52Gregg Rosenthal:I think so. Tomlin called Dylan Gabriel's superpower processing. And I think there is something to that. He's an older quarterback who's played. You love that. And I really don't. I know. I like to point out how like, you know, CJ Stroud. You're ageist. It's fine. You know, still like two years younger than Michael Penix and Bo Nix. Like, like, let's give the kids some time. But Gabriel, I think, showed a lot of maturity. And when there were so many quick pressures in that game that he actually got away from and made smart decisions. The problem is his, you know, his offensive line is is not amazing.

34:27And it's a tough match.

34:28Gregg Rosenthal:All I really want. I don't know how this will even be possible, but I would like to see a photo of him standing next to Darnell Washington just to see the difference. That's all I would like out of this game. And also some epic tight end play. I think you're going to get it. I think we're going to get it. The picture might be. I'm trying to think. If I go one for two, I'm good. We can maneuver some some college shenanigans to get Darnell Washington in that picture. I'm all about it. Shenanigans aplenty for the Arizona Cardinals last week. Yeah. And it's no easy bounce back opportunity. They are on the road at the Indianapolis Colts, who are favored by six and a half points.

35:06The over-under is 47 and a half. Kevin Kugler, Moose Johnston, and Allison Williams on the call. Greg, how do the Cardinals bounce back from what was the biggest donation of 2025? I think it will tell us a lot about how this season is going to go. They've been very underwhelming. They should have been 3-2 if not for that fluky and just brutal way to finish that game, but they would have been such an underwhelming 3-2. And if they don't get this win, they have the Packers, then they have a bye. You could be going into the bye week on a four-game losing streak, and the schedule after that is really difficult in general.

35:46So these are the types of weeks that really test a head coach. Jonathan Gannon was asked about what's happening there in the building this week. What is the kind of vibe and energy in this locker room like this week? And how do you kind of keep that up after a loss? Today, dope as hell. Honestly, it really was. It really was. I couldn't start the meeting on time because of the energy in the room.

36:12Gregg Rosenthal:So that's good to see. But we have to make sure that we're out in the details in the meeting room and walk through and practice. But it was really good. It was really good. I'm such a sucker that I see that. And I also heard Mike Garofalo talk on Good Morning Football that this whole touchdown thing from Amari Di Mercado is like a rallying cry now for the team. I'll fall for it and be like, they are going to rally. They are going to play hard. Listen, I understand what a coach and a team is like trying to do out of that moment, especially if the coach, and honestly, bad look, bad moment, honestly, for bad, bad mistake, bad moment, Also bad mistake by Jonathan Gannon as well, who was fined earlier this week as well.

36:53And by the team, not by the team. Yeah,$100 ,000.

36:56Gregg Rosenthal:Yes. And that's important. That was pretty rare. Actually, I think the last person that's happened to is Bruce Arians. So Arizona's tense sometimes. But I feel like this is, I understand what a coach and a team is trying to do. Like being sincere in addressing the team, which I tend to believe he was. being sincere about making mistakes and taking ownership and trying to scrap all of it, bury the tape, all the things that they say. I get that. I don't have any reason to believe that the Cardinals are made of stronger stuff than what we've seen. I don't have any reason to believe that they're made of more resilient stuff than we've seen.

37:35Gregg Rosenthal:And in fact, I was listening to Mina this morning and she pointed out this week on her show, kind of a lack of resilience stat. Now, she did not frame it this way. I don't want to put words in her mouth, but when I'm thinking about this team's inability to close or come back or to make up for bad moments, crazy stat. Arizona is first in EPA per play on defense. Jonathan Gannon's bread and butter here through the first three quarters of a game and drops to 27th in fourth quarters this season. So you want to talk about lack of resilience, show me some resilience, come back literally and emotionally.

38:10Gregg Rosenthal:You know, I mean, I just have no reason to believe that yet. Also, they're just not that good at football on the offensive side, which is more important. Yeah. Like, there's no reason to believe that they're... Oh, you don't want the poetic moment? No, no, I agree with all that. And I think that's all... It's all about our feelings. I think that's true. And I think that's a great note about the defense. And I find it interesting. But I don't have any real big reason to believe that, like, this offense has got to figure it out. Kyler Murray, by the way, was out of practice. on Wednesday. So this could be Jacoby Brissett with a revenge game in Indianapolis.

38:42Yeah. I don't think that's a revenge. They kind of revived his career.

38:46Gregg Rosenthal:He's kind of the perfect backup there too, because he can still throw it around and he knows that offense. He's been in that system. He's kind of the perfect backup just in general for Jacoby Brissett. And two, I don't think the Colts are the opponent that you want in this bounce back situation for the Arizona Cardinals. You can make the case. It's the toughest of this stretch where they've lost by, again, these are game-winning field goals that are happening in the closing moments. Right. Same thing happened to the 49ers in game as well. Yeah. And so it's not like they're out of these games, but I think we can get the best version of the Arizona Cardinals and they could still lose this, this particular game.

39:25And so like, I don't, not to, to bury the team, but it's just the schedule sometimes determines these things. And this is a doozy for them. Jermaine Pratt was signed today by the Indianapolis Colts. So a reunion with Lou Anarumo. He had played like almost every snap of the Raiders first four games and then wasn't active and then was cut. I'm not sure what happened there. I do want to mention just how good Josh Downs look last week. And it was a reminder, man, they just have so many receivers. They have six receivers over 133 yards last week. They benched A.D. Mitchell last week, which I thought was a little harsh until I watched Ashton Doolin look like one of the best receivers on the team when like he suddenly got some run and there was like a third to third and 12 play to dimes, which I think really encapsulated it where they sent a perfect blitz.

40:16The Raiders did on him last week and he just saw it very calmly, like hit downs who made a play after the catch to pick up the first down. and Daniel Jones just took a shot and he stood in there and he delivered and Downs then made a play. And that's what I think with this team. Like he's not taking any sacks. He's taken four sacks all season long and they just have answers whenever opposing teams like the Cardinals who are a tough matchup give you tough questions.

40:43Gregg Rosenthal:Well, I think it also speaks to how complete the team is that their receivers and the quarterback have numbers like that and still Jonathan Taylor's leading the NFL in rushing. And I know we talk about the Daniel Jones assons a lot and we should and stoked for him, but the Taylor sons has also happened. Yes. And, and yes, Daniel Jones did make it onto QB Island yesterday. I know that the world was a little worried. We might forget about Danny dimes over there. We would never. And, but, but it speaks to their balance. It really does. This is a well-balanced team that is built to continue to do this as long as they can stay healthy because of how complete they are.

41:19Gregg Rosenthal:They're getting the ball done. They're getting it done through the air and on the ground. and it's pretty incredible to watch. The line of sans is what made those other sanses possible. That's fair. They had veteran departures. We wondered how they were going to rebuild it and they have played spectacularly. Sanses. Good point. And that's a feather in the cap of Chris Ballard and that coaching staff. They've been pretty consistent being able to develop and target offensive linemen and be better than you would expect. My apologies to Mr. Ballard. not familiar with your game the next game up is the Los Angeles Chargers favored by four and a half going on the road all the way to Miami to take on the Dolphins 44 and a half is the over under Andrew Catalan Charles Davis Jason McCourty and AJ Ross Greg is the Dolphins defense the cure to what ails this Chargers offense yes it's the worst defense in the league it's a it's a matchup of like bad on bad when the Chargers offensive line tries to run the ball in this game.

42:26But everyone's looked good running the ball against the Miami Dolphins. Kenneth Grant is getting just targeted. They have so much money invested up front, and it's not really working that I feel like one team has Justin Herbert, the other team has Tua, which, if you remember, used to be a big debate on bad talk shows. Remember that? It was a debate. I try to forget. Tua is coming off what I thought was his best game of the year. You know, Tua, if you threw out week one, has looked fine. He's just looked like Tua. I don't think he's looked great.

42:57Gregg Rosenthal:Relative to where he's been, I mean, he's looked like himself. Maybe. I'm not going to say they're better without Tyreek Hill, but I don't know. They look pretty cohesive. Well, they're better when they're getting the ball to Darren Waller. Speaking of Sansa, in a big way, it's crazy to watch how productive he is. And, you know, if this is for real and I think and we think it is because he's still there and producing and a big part of what they do. Happy for him. Happy for both of them. But I don't think they win this game because the Chargers need to gather themselves. I mean, it's embarrassing what happened to their offensive line.

43:36Gregg Rosenthal:There's this audio clip floating around between Bradley Bozeman and Justin Herbert where Bradley Bozeman misses an assignment. and Justin Herbert says, no, no, no, no, pointing out a different assignment. And then they still go with the first one because the snap's already happening. And Justin Herbert, you know, yells, ah, dang it. And I'm saying the polite version of it because I don't want more work for the producers having to bleep me out once again. But it's bad. It's that offensive line is, this is for my colleague, Daniel Popper. Since he got to the NFL in 2020, Justin Herbert has been hit 525 times, which is the most of any quarterback.

44:13Gregg Rosenthal:in that span. And Jim Harbaugh was adamant that they did enough at depth all along the offensive line. You never obviously plan for both of your elite tackles to be out, but locally they're saying, no, this was not enough upfront. Yeah. Oh yeah. Again, like the sheer volume of injuries, it's going to be tough. Like considering roster limitations for anybody to, to deal with this. And the clip is hilarious because Herbert spends most of the play clock adjusting. Yeah. And, and, uh, fixing everyone. Yeah. Um, having Gaston adjust to hot for the blitzer coming off the edge. And then he's about to snap the ball and both points to shift the line.

44:49No. And then he has to snap the ball. But yeah, Darren Waller, I think has fixed the biggest issue for the Miami dolphins over these past few years, which is like giving them some sort of idea to how to go about things in the red zone.

45:00Gregg Rosenthal:Yeah. It's, it's get the ball to Darren Waller and they've gotten touchdowns by Waller and off of Waller where it's like, Hey, this is even better than the John who signs of 2024. It's an incredible story. He was picked up on waivers in my son's 10-year-old fantasy football league. So that's when you know kind of he's hit. They're not really like grinding tape. He's gone mainstream. Yeah, exactly. That's the word I was looking for. When the Dolphins have the ball, though, you said that's been their biggest problem. It's been one of them. But the running game is part of that, right? I just combined that.

45:32And they had zero running game last week. And that's another big weakness-on-weakness matchup. And it is funny how a couple of weeks can change something. I'm not picking on you for calling them the best team in the league. I didn't think that was crazy either. But when you think about like Jesse Minter now versus Jesse Minter three weeks ago, he's been kind of undressed the last couple of weeks. I think like coach and it's a reminder, like it's more about it's always more about players than coaches. I always personally think that we overrate coaches in general. And like when things are going well, they get like a lot of credit.

46:05It's like quarterbacks. And when things aren't going well, and it's always somewhere in between and they probably don't have enough players, but like Dable and then last week with the Commanders and even the Broncos game where Bo Nix missed a million coverage busts and that they could have put up 40 against the Chargers. Like I think opposing offensive coordinators are dictating the matchups. We talk about dictating of like, we're going to get your guys on the perimeter and have to make some tackles that we know can't and you're going to have these lighter boxes and they're one of the worst tackling teams in football.

46:37And they've kind of been steamrolled the last couple of weeks by like formations, I think, and by just not having the big enough guys to stop the run.

46:46Gregg Rosenthal:Yeah, I would say I agree with you twofold. First of all, the injuries have completely turned around what this team was versus what it is now. I mean, when you compound injuries like that up front, when you miss, you're missing. Part of the reason they traded for Odafeo is his potential. I know he wasn't producing in Baltimore, but his potential from previous production is something they're very clearly keying on. They are deciding they're telling you right now that they, they think this defense will have to carry this team because that is the move that they made, but they're an average defense right now and they're not that injured on defense to be fair.

47:22But,

47:23Gregg Rosenthal:but that's what I'm saying or trying to say is, is missing Khalil Mack completely changes what front structures Jesse mentor wants to play with. It completely changes how you can attack them. just like you said, not just up front, but along the perimeter because it changes. It's a ripple effect of every single player who lines up behind that front. And that's part of what's happening here. And it's a failure to adjust completely. And it's also needing dudes, needing guys back playing and hitting and tackling and actually like executing a more malleable vision than when Jesse Minter started the season.

47:58Well, they've got a dafe away and he is expected to play, according to Jim Harbaugh, who compared him to Cleo Mack. That he's a lot like him. Direct rusher, but his speed has depth. I get what he means. He's just saying that he's that type of player. Like the skill set is similar and that he can definitely help stopping the run. But look, we talked on this podcast coming into the season. We thought pass rush depth was one of the biggest problems on this team because I think counting on Cleo Mack to be a guy that just carries you in the year 2025 is too much. And you could see they didn't have enough players behind him.

48:30That said, they could right the ship here and just get to four and two. Just win a game while you're bringing it up. Let's take a break. And on the other side, we're going to get to the international game this week.

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51:30It is made for what's next. Learn more at amu.apus.edu. This is Mandy Woodruff-Santos from Brown Ambition. You probably think of Walmart as a store that carries just about everything under the sun and maybe not as the place to discover small brands. Well, two things can be true at the same time. because Walmart is home to thousands of small brands founded by people who had an idea, took a chance, and built something of their own. Behind everyone is a real story and a lot of hard work. So why not take a little time to recognize all the people building small brands across the country and support everything they're creating?

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52:52The idea of a table. I want to see the crowd bring it in Tottenham this week. It was so good last week in terms of the energy, but it wasn't quite as good, and I haven't mentioned this on the show yet, as the energy at Arsenal that I went to on Saturday. I've never been to a Premier League game before, and I sat in the visitors section for West Ham because I'm a hammer. and shout out to Rob Pritchard who works for West Ham. I've known him over the years and he hooked me and my friend Nat Coombs up with tickets and that was a unique experience which I wish we could bring to like the American audience.

53:31Gregg Rosenthal:It's always good chance. Is it the chance? Yeah, they're creative. The West Ham could not have looked worse. They were absolutely blown out in this game even though it was only 2-0. Like no chances, totally miserable and yet the second they like go down 2-0 they're chanting at the rest of the stadium you're gonna win f all you're gonna win f all and then some other chant about second place that they're gonna finish in second place because that's what arsenal does all the time and they had some like former west ham great was sitting in the visitors section and they just started chanting about him for 10 minutes and his nickname was ginger pele back in the day and that was like the most fun 10 minutes i had the whole day so like i want that kind of energy.

54:13You're getting your teeth kicked in and you're still out there having fun and talking trash. That's my kind of energy. All right. Well, that's the energy. No, then we're going to summon as we discuss a game that's coming up on NFL Network where we care about people and each other. Aaron Glenn's Jets looking for their first win of the 2025 season. They are getting seven and a half points to try to come back and get the Denver Broncos who just beat one of the NFL's last unbeatens. What if the Broncos beat one of the last unbeatens and turn around and lose to the only winless team in the NFL, Jordan?

54:48Can it happen? The over-under is 43 and a half. Rich Eisen, Kurt Warner, Sarah Walsh on the call.

54:54Gregg Rosenthal:Both of you are frightening me big time. In a big way right now. Stickers bar went flying. Greg's hands, Patrick's hands. I'm in the danger zone. You know, it's all good. Speaking of the danger zone, what is going on with the Jets, guys? What do you think? Just a little fun interactive game here. On the count of three, both of you guys say what you think the biggest problem with the New York Jets is right now. One, two, three. Elijah Berry Tucker's out. You didn't say anything. I know, because I was going to say ownership, and then I thought, hmm, that's tricky. I would say defensive coaching.

55:36Gregg Rosenthal:Yeah. and it shouldn't be that way because this is an Aaron Glenn football team and the lack of discipline and the lack of adjustments and just some of the you're just seeing some of it I mean it's just it's just not what you would actually expect to see from a team that Aaron Glenn is the head coach of and obviously he's not coordinating the defense that's Steve Wilkes I mean doing that I'm I'm not giving him any path on that. No, I'm not either. I'm just saying it's like it's his team. I mean, that's where I'm like, what are we going? I mean, I know he has leaned on Steve Wilkes in getting into this job and what to expect and to look for and kind of some of the advice and having a veteran confidant too is really, really important.

56:24Gregg Rosenthal:It's a really difficult, one of the most difficult jobs to take over, if not the most difficult job to take over in the NFL. Fair. seems to be open often. And it's just like, but, but this is not working. The defense is not working. I just said how we tend to overrate coaches. And maybe I just did it too, by making that like the number one thing, because they have some guys that just shouldn't be on the field. It can be both. It's fine. Tyler Barron, this defensive end. I was like, Jamie and Sherwood had another game where he was just lost last week. Michael Clemens has low lights week after week.

56:57Like they got Mauaga at another linebacker spot was just getting picked on. Granted, it's a tough matchup against Cowboys, but it's going to be a tough matchup against the Broncos and a lot of their opponents. Yeah, I mean, they're not going to have an easy matchup considering the relative talent disparity all over the place for the Jets. And they've been in a couple of these games. And it's one of those situations where even when the scheme looks great and the players, 10 of them execute, there's there's one guy that'll either put the ball on the turf, miss a block. have a blown assignment. It's just like, there's one of these situations where when you're bad, bad things happen.

57:35But they end up getting close in these games or closer at the end, but they, I think Red have not scored a touchdown in the first half of any game since week one. So like an offensive touchdown.

57:48Gregg Rosenthal:So they were a yard away. I know. And the running kills me. The thing that's crazy is the running game is good. So if you're going to make a case for this game, being surprising close in the fourth quarter. It's that they have been pretty effective dictating with the running game. And if there is a way to attack this Broncos defense, you definitely want to do it on the ground versus passing. So maybe they can have these long drives that actually finish in a touchdown occasionally instead of it just tends to be like these eight minute drives that end with three points. And then their defense gives up like a huge play right away.

58:20And it's like, okay, great.

58:21Gregg Rosenthal:Yeah, it's tough because they can't count on their defense. And also they can't come back from self self an early self-inflicted mistake. And that's what has happened with this team. Everything changed when Braylon Allen fumbled the ball. Like the Jets look like one of the most interesting physical running teams and looked that's that opening scripted drive a couple weeks ago, a couple games ago. Like it, it was everything that they wanted to be. and then they make a mistake and the ripple effect, they cannot get out of it. Same thing happened against the Cowboys. Every opening script looks good.

58:58And then they always either fumble it or end up with three.

59:00Gregg Rosenthal:They can't sidestep the wake of the mistakes that they make. And I think that that is a culture thing. That is a mental thing. That is something that a team builds over time by getting through those types of things, by adjusting and understanding you have to overcome certain things that you do to yourself during the game, not even so much the opponent. And that's what I think this issue is. I don't know that the Broncos will be forgiving at all against those types of mistakes. Now, I do think Bo Nix will make his share of mistakes. He's been not as consistent as they need him to be. And he's played better week over week, especially later in games, but he's made some mistakes.

59:41Can we get one normal, steady Bo Nix game? Just one. Let's get there. It hasn't happened.

59:45Gregg Rosenthal:Just be you, Bo. Don't try to be Matthew Stafford. Don't try to be CJ Stroud. Like just play your game. Take, take what's being presented to you. You know, I think the Broncos fans would feel like it was a waste to get the solid Bo Nix game to be this international game against the jet. But you got, you got to start. I know Broncos fans will defend them and it hasn't been that bad. He's good in terms of like, his eyes are good. He makes good decisions. He just misses. Yeah. A lot. Like he is. And I think, yeah, I don't think he's a bad player. I think he, everything's right. And then the ball comes out of his hand and sometimes, and you're just like, Oh no, just off.

1:00:18Gregg Rosenthal:just a little off here and there. I think this indicates kind of what PFF values and doesn't, but like he is still one of the lowest graded quarterbacks. He's below Gino. He's below Flacco. Like, because I think he's just missed so many times and he hasn't made up for it with like great plays, but he has had like the turnover worthy place. So this is it. They're going to get a solid bow game. I do want to note the jets are significantly better on offense this year than they were last year. Yeah. The majority of the jets probably. Yes. are on the defensive side of the ball. And special teams. They might have the worst special teams in the league.

1:00:55They're on their like fourth kick returner. Yikes. We do get Garrett Wilson versus Patrick Sertan. Yeah, I love that. And I also

1:01:03Gregg Rosenthal:think this, you saw it a couple weeks ago, Sean Payton really making an effort to get J.K. Dobbins going. Got him to that hundred mark. He was at 79 yards last game rushing. You could see Sean Payton once another hundred yards rushing performance out of a single running back versus a committee. I think this is a game. You do it. I mean, the jets cannot stop anything. And also a lingering heat from the preseason jets Broncos discussion from a couple of years ago, the parties involved in flooring park are no longer there, but Sean Payton, Sean Payton remembers. He really does. He remembers everything.

1:01:40So he had the Broncos bus drive through broad street just so they could rub it into the Eagles fans after beating them. It's amazing.

1:01:49Gregg Rosenthal:What a move. I kind of love that. I do too. A team that would like to take some fun bus rides. The Vegas Raiders did it a couple of years ago. The Tennessee Titans at Las Vegas where the Raiders are favored by four and a half points. Kenny Albert, Jonathan Vilba, and Megan Olivia on the call as Greg we want Geno to stop throwing the ball to the other team. This would be a good game to do that. The Titans defense has quietly been disappointing, I think, in its own right. Like, the offense is obviously the bigger issue, but other than Jeffrey Simmons, who on another team might be a Defensive Player of the Year candidate and would be an amazing trade candidate, like, I think he could be up for grabs.

1:02:32It's not a good defense. I do think about that block kick at the end of the Bears-Raiders game, though. Like, this early in the season, those, like, one-play games matter so much more. We would feel so differently about the Bears, at least, at one and three if the Raiders just hadn't had that kick block. And if you were the Raiders coming into this game, you probably wouldn't think that you were some great team, but you'd be favored to get to three and three on the season if not for that one block kick. But that would probably be hiding the problems underneath this team, which is a really bad defense and missing their best offensive player this season, which we really haven't mentioned that much on this show.

1:03:10Missing Colton Miller to me was kind of the death knell for this Raiders team. Like when he went out, I think like the hope of it getting a ton better kind of went with him.

1:03:20Gregg Rosenthal:I was like, Brock Bowers, we have talked a lot. You said best offensive player. This year, Colton Miller was playing like lights out this year and Brock Bowers hasn't been healthy. I just think it's a cascading effect that I had just failed to mention and I wanted to there with Colton Miller. One thing that could be helpful to them, it looks like per local reports, Michael Meyer is cleared from the concussion protocol. So that's good news. Um, still kind of up in the air on, on Brock Bowers considered week to week Carol early this week. And it is interesting that the shift from how, uh, eager and, um, believing that they would compete right away.

1:04:02Gregg Rosenthal:Pete Carroll was early in the season and adamant. Remember he's, this is a shorter contract than most coaching contracts when he, when he signed. And part of that was the intent that he, if he was going to come back, he wanted to come back and win a lot of football games right away and went out and got his guy in Gino. And, um, none of this has worked out the way that any of them are expecting. And I was listening to some of Pete Carroll's comments earlier this week. And he was like morose. He was like, I can't, I would never call Pete Carroll morose. Maybe his floor is like mildly disappointed.

1:04:36Gregg Rosenthal:He's such a positive guy, but morose, but Carroll is bad news. Yeah. We kind of fell for it in this off season. Like we were buying what they were selling. And I, I do believe that they have a good core in place. Like I think that these guys will know how to build a team. I think that they made moves that on paper look like they should really work out. You really are in terms of the roster, like who, who among us, none of us were expecting this to happen to Geno Smith. None of us are expecting Brock Bowers to be dealing with some of the stuff and injuries happen every year to every team, but in combination, you know, we're not expecting this offense to look like this.

1:05:12Gregg Rosenthal:Yeah. we're kind of expecting this offensive line to be. We went into the season though, saying this was the least talented defense on league. So that was their choice. And Pete Carroll, when was the last time Pete Carroll to be fair, was a difference maker as a defensive coach or a head coach? Well, I thought Patrick, I thought Patrick Graham would have a really positive influence on, on what Pete. You're making a face. No, I mean, he's got a losing record over the last five years. I'm just saying that's like a hearted peep. He's already having a bad week, Greg. I'm not coming hard at him, but I don't think he's shown to be a difference maker for a minute.

1:05:46It's certainly not on defense. Well, that, that's why you go out and you get a difference maker, the former Ohio state offensive coordinator to come in and really turn things around. But I honestly think I was waiting for it. We've, uh, well, if we're taking shots at people, why not? Um, you know, you mean you're chipping away a little bit by bit, uh, Jackson powers, Johnson, uh, giving up four pressures against the Colts. It's like the Colts front looked incredible. And, you know, they've been solid all year. But Parham, Forsythe, like the Raiders have significant issues up front because we talk a lot about in the run game.

1:06:20And I don't know Gino's leading the league in interceptions. He's playing poorly. They're playing poorly up front.

1:06:25Gregg Rosenthal:Yeah. Yeah, it's a combination of things. And like I said, I think we could have expected some of them. Like I wasn't necessarily thrilled with their offensive line coming in to the year, but I didn't think it was going to look like this. And this could be, well, it's Jeffrey Simmons. He's not getting much help on the edge. The Titans, look, the Titans are going to look at this game and think. Creditable. If we're ever going to win a game on the road, again. For the second week in a row. May I have some ball? This is a pretty good candidate. And Cam Ward's playing awesome. He's so fun to watch.

1:06:56Last week was a very typical Cam Ward game where he had some groaners, some like, what are you thinking?

1:07:03Gregg Rosenthal:I don't even care about those. And he had, I'm just here for the ride. Five or six throws in that game. Most of them in the second half that were just, they just took your breath away. Yeah. I love it. I love the potential here. I can't wait for, I can't wait for five years from now when he has a team around him, you know? I don't remember who I was listening to that asked, could you fire someone after a win? And that's because, just because of how Brian Callahan handled this game, game management, and because of how happy he was when he would just get these lucky touchdowns, he was like celebrating on the field.

1:07:33and fiery whenever. But if I was Brian Kelly, I'd be happy to. Must have felt good. Why wouldn't you? Why wouldn't you celebrate? These are teams that, by the way, and we're going to wrap up here, could be very interesting at the trade deadline. Oh.

1:07:47Gregg Rosenthal:Yeah. Would they ever listen about Max Crosby? I checked. Like, no dead money. They definitely would listen about Jacoby Myers, you would think, who's on the last year of his contract. Here's one that would have been interesting before the Bengals went and got Joe Flacco. Would they think about trading Geno? Who's really on a one-year contract. I thought you were about to say Will Levis. No. Would a team that needs a quarter, like with the Vikings, like if things go really sideways, I'm trying to think of a team that would be like... Give him a decent line, Greg. Hey, I'm just saying like, yeah, hey, you're probably not going to keep Geno next year at this rate.

1:08:25There's like kind of no long-term... I'm just saying. Calvin Ridley would be another one. The problem is a team with a decent line is probably not in position to be trading for a quarterback anyway.

1:08:34Gregg Rosenthal:I mean, if your quarterback gets hurt, don't wish that on anyone. Knock on wood. Okay, that was it. Raiders, Titans. We're going to be battling to see who gets that beauty. The mess off. On Sunday morning. Looking forward to it. Also looking forward to our NFC preview. So keep listening. Hang tight. And we'll be right there with the NFC.

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