40s and Free Agents: Gregg's Top FA RBs and DJ's Senior Bowl Takeaways

14:00Gregg Rosenthal:Well, you hit on a lot of the guys that I was going to ask you about. Anyway, Zion Young, by the way, got the MVP of the game played great. The other question would be on Malachi Fields, who it sounded like you liked. I noticed you had him in the top 50, the big wide receiver from Notre Dame. I looked at the consensus board. I don't know if you know that website where it's just kind of averaging all All the, it's just a, for a normie, like me, I like that.

14:23Daniel Jeremiah:I can understand what it means, but just to get a feel of like what the

14:27Gregg Rosenthal:consensus is that you're, you were, you're, we're higher going into this senior bowl on him than consensus. He was in the sixties or something like that. You already had him in your top, top 50, big dude, like for a team that is looking for a wide receiver in this draft. Tell me a little bit about Malachi Fields and what you saw in person.

14:46Daniel Jeremiah:Yeah. 6 '4", 218. so ideal size, but he can get off press, which is always a good thing when you're a bigger receiver. Do you have either the quickness or the strength to be able to get off the line of scrimmage? He does that easily on tape. He did it really well at the Senior Bowl. He can make some spectacular catches. His pit game is going to be the highlight tape that everybody's going to watch the plays that he made in that game, including an incredible one-handed catch. Then he goes in the week of practice, makes a diving catch down the field. He was clearly the best receiver there. I mean, it wasn't even close, And he's built like a power forward.

15:19Daniel Jeremiah:He's incredibly smart. He interviewed really well with teams. And when I was talking to the guys at Notre Dame about him, I was like, tell me, can you give me a story about him? Like, just tell me about him. And I said, well, I think it was, I remember the opponent. I can't remember the opponent, who it was. So they had an explosive play and they got down inside the 10 and there was a timeout on the field. And so he walks over to the sideline and he walks by the offensive coordinator and goes, you know what to do. and he said okay all right so they throw him they throw him just a jump ball and he scores he's like yeah apparently he did that was the right move uh but just a very look at just like kind of the subtle confidence of uh of a guy like that and you know someone who i think is an all-day top 50 pick and is going to be in the conversation in the bottom of the first round love that and uh

16:05Gregg Rosenthal:yeah we look i'm i'm a basic i like focusing on the skill positions um that's all i'll ask you about because we're going to be talking about these guys for a couple of months. Why did Gavin put March 11? Is that when your list comes out? That is, I believe, the first day of free agency. Okay. It's also my anniversary, so I'll be able to remember that easily. Congratulations. How many years will it be?

16:28Daniel Jeremiah:I got married in 2000, so I would always know how many years I've been married. So pretty easy. 26.

16:34Gregg Rosenthal:Okay. Okay. And you're done with the kids, right? Your oldest is now almost out of the house. I'm done. Yeah. All this youngest. I got him to empty nest. I mean, that's why I got the access to the guest bedroom here. It's what a world DJ is going to have with like the second, second teenage years of just the empty nest. It's going to be fun. Let's talk rankings, the real rankings. Let's talk. Let's, let's debut some rankings in terms of free agency. Let's talk running backs. It is an awesome group in free agency this year. And in general, people say it's easier to find running backs. And I do find that to be mostly true in free agency, but it's not like that every year.

17:15Gregg Rosenthal:It just happens to come up this year that it's not only fun at the top, but then you can also get whatever flavor you want as a backup, which is what most teams do in free agency. I thought this was a good week to do it because one of them is starting the Super Bowl, Ken Walker. And, you know, there's a great three pack at the top of free agency. And maybe Cowboys fans would think that Javante Williams needs to be in that three pack, but I'm not putting him there. So my top three, and I'm curious how you would rank them. Right now, it's a group. It's a cluster like your drafts. It's Ken Walker, Kenneth Walker, you know, where we've seen just the creativity, the explosive ability, really rare movement.

17:59Gregg Rosenthal:Travis Etienne, who's coming off of a really nice season for the Jaguars. And if you look at his production, it's really been pretty consistent three of the four years of his career. And then Brees Hall, who's always been consistent, you know, producing as a receiver, a little less so this year. But that was more because of the people around him. He actually has high for rushing yards this year. So slightly different. But actually, I think a lot of similarities between those three and kind of shaking them out. I did unfortunately kind of see what other people are, are thinking. And I think I'm going to be different than consensus on these three guys.

18:35Gregg Rosenthal:Wow.

18:36Daniel Jeremiah:Those are three, there's three really, really good players. I think there's going to be some recency bias. It's going to help Walker in these rankings, but I would actually do it in the reverse order that you just gave him to me. Yeah. I would go Brees Hall. I would go ETN. I would go Walker.

18:51Gregg Rosenthal:Brees Hall. He's a big playmaker. And yeah, I, I, I usually don't do this, but I just have to be real. I saw some of the other early, early lists. And yeah, Brees Hall is up there. Like he's going to be, I think, in the top 10 overall free agents. He's a he's a dynamic player to me. Kenneth Walker, maybe I'm just falling for the flashes a little bit. But who moves like him in the NFL? It's it's pretty special the way he can make people miss in space. and sometimes maybe it's the blocking assignments that haven't been always clean that they trust Charbonnet a little more. He's the one that intrigues me the most.

19:34Gregg Rosenthal:And maybe you're right that it's a little bit of a recency bias, but if you want big plays, I mean, all three of them can do it for you, but I think Kenneth Walker has still like a little, little untapped potential there.

19:47Daniel Jeremiah:I want to do some on the job homework here. what was the i would love to know what the carries were from these three guys like from a usage standpoint during the year i'm pulling it up right this year it was very similar between the three of them they were etn had 260 carries yep reese hall at 243 kenneth walker at 221 yeah and kenneth

20:13Gregg Rosenthal:walker you know this year was it last couple years really has been consistent in terms of you know, he'll catch 30, 40 passes a year. It was a little less so for B's all when you look at the total production in terms of yards from scrimmage, you know, like Brees Hall's in the 1400 range, three out of four seasons, ETN's around there. Kenneth Walker is slightly less, but not really much, uh, 1300 yards this year. The thing about ETN that I like, I think he might be the safest pick of the three. If you watch what he did this year and I went through a lot of his runs, it's a lot more inside runs and breaking tackles than you think.

20:49Gregg Rosenthal:He was a touchdown scorer this year. And if you go through like the rushing touchdowns, like they're inside runs where he is breaking tackles in addition to the big plays. And then the thing that he's given you is he's the primary receiver on a lot of his touchdowns. He scored 15 touchdowns this year. It's outrageous. Seven of them catching the ball. And like the plays are designed for him. And Liam Cohen does a great job. You got to give credit to the offense, but he is beating, you know, the linebackers or the safeties one-on-one. Sometimes it's, it's the scheme, but it's like, Hey, you're, you're going to go be that guy either on a wheel route or different types of routes in the red zone.

21:26Gregg Rosenthal:And so you can use him a different, a lot of different ways to me. He's probably the safest pick of the three. Yeah.

21:31Daniel Jeremiah:I don't know. There's a wrong answer though, to be honest, I think they're a little different in how they're utilized and what their strengths are. I just, to me, I've watched the Seahawks every week, you know, doing that, doing that show up there. So I like Kenneth Walker a lot. I just, to me, Charbonnet has better vision. Charbonnet has kind of better feel as a, as a runner, a little more patience, but Kenneth Walker, what he did, you know, in the last game that we saw, the most recent view of it, the, the move in the hole, uh, to be able to make you miss was outrageous. Um, you know, just showing you that's the, that's the athlete that he is like the, you know, kind of an electric player, but I think it's just a pure, you know, vision, feel runner.

22:06Daniel Jeremiah:I would, you know, I would probably have him third on this list. Yeah, he he doesn't always go to the hole that's blocked.

22:14Gregg Rosenthal:So I think around the NFL, he might be third on this list because he's a little more unpredictable than the other two. Dynamic is heck though. I mean, really, there is something you could make the case after Bajan in just in terms of pure jaw dropping, like movement, explosive ability to kind of make you miss it. an open there aren't many running backs in the league that are better than Kenneth Walker. So, so all three of them are really intrigued.

22:41Daniel Jeremiah:Yeah. I, again, I, this would not be a slight on any of these three guys. I think it's, I think whichever one of these guys goes to the better, you know, system offensive line play color is going to have the, you know, the better future. I'm just, I'm curious to see with Brees Hall with a legitimate passing game to to kind of free some things up and loosen some things up. I think you see more of those dynamic runs he's capable of.

23:03Gregg Rosenthal:My prediction is he's going to remain a New York Jet ultimately in that they will tag him because they have the space. The franchise tag for running backs is just not that much. It's 11 or 12 million. I think in a one year deal at a position where you're worried about the long term, I think they'll be they'll think let's just not have to worry about that position. I could be wrong. And the Seahawks could think the same with Kenneth Walker. We'll find out.

23:28Daniel Jeremiah:I'll be a little Kansas City Chiefs should be in on all three of these guys, by the way. Yes.

23:32Gregg Rosenthal:The reporting was that they did not want to give up a third round pick. I believe it was for Brees Hall during the season. Some of their fans were upset. I think I think it made sense not to give up the pick. So Javante Williams.

23:43Daniel Jeremiah:Yeah, give us some more names here.

23:45Gregg Rosenthal:Javante Williams is next. He's sort of in a category of his own. Looked like a different player to me coming off of a really serious injury. I thought he had his best year this year. I mean, he's the old phrase, a rolling ball of butcher knives. It is tough to get him down. And I think he fits that cowboy system well. It wouldn't surprise me if they bring him back. So to me, he's a solid fourth and will probably have a pretty nice overall ranking. And after that, then I get into the back.

24:15Daniel Jeremiah:Is it a bowling ball of butcher knives or a rolling ball of butcher knives? It could be either way. What about a bowl in a china shop? Is it similar? Something like that.

24:25Gregg Rosenthal:I love what Javante Williams did. After that, then to me, it's guys who are going to be like one B guys. So it's the different flavors. And these are in order. It's it's the kind of more physical backs. And I would put it in this order. Rico Dowdle, you know, had a pretty solid two years there with the Panthers. Tyler Algier, who's been a great one B behind Bajon. Najee Harris, who's coming off the injury, but obviously was an intriguing pickup. Looked good before he got hurt for your charge. And J.K. Dobbins. And so that's one flavor of kind of one B. and then Kenny Gainwell and Rashad White, who I think are really low on you're low on Gainwell.

25:01Gregg Rosenthal:See, when I when I actually sort all these guys, I think Gainwell is going to actually be the top of all these backups. But when I was presenting it to you, I kind of wanted to give you I thought that these guys were kind of one bees behind the Javante Williams and the three above. But I do think Gainwell will be fifth.

25:20Daniel Jeremiah:I think from, I think from a pay standpoint and who's going to be valued the most, I think that you could put gain well up there with Javante Williams.

25:26Gregg Rosenthal:That's fair. I, I, I tend to agree team MVP for the Pittsburgh Steelers this year. And I think Rashad white is an underrated player. Like he's not, he's not a perfect player, but he blocks, he is unreal on passing downs and he's a, he's a pretty good runner. Actually, they were more effective running the ball with him this year at times than, than with Bucky Irving. And then, you know, your guy, uh, Najee Harris got, got hurt for the chargers last year, but that's a good, if depending on what you need at running back, like that is a really deep, good group. All those guys are going to make my top one on one.

25:58Daniel Jeremiah:Yeah, no, that's it. That is a really good group. Yeah. To me, those last two names to me are more interesting than, I know Dattles has played well. Algier, Harris, Dobbins, you've got injuries. You've got maybe not the most explosive guys there. I would be more intrigued with the gain. Well, white combination up there, which Evante Williams. Okay.

26:18Gregg Rosenthal:I like that. You're helping me do the rankings. I agree. Gainwell, if it was my team, and that is how I should do it, because who knows? Maybe they'll call me someday. Don't make somebody else's mistakes.

26:30Daniel Jeremiah:That's what I was told very early on. I could be the next Quesse Dofamenta,

26:34Gregg Rosenthal:having 17 different articles dissecting what went wrong when my tenure as an experimental GM blows up in my face.

26:41Daniel Jeremiah:Yeah, I've been in the player bubble, trying to get 330 plus guys watch for the for the comment but I have noticed that every time I go NFL.com we got the athletic ESPN.com there's a lot of Minnesota Vikings it's a lot of Vikings

27:01Gregg Rosenthal:it's a lot of Vikings talk and then just for those who are completists out there deeper down the list just some names that will be available Isaiah Pacheco to me just hasn't looked the same post-injury, not the complete type of player, probably not going to be making my 101. Nick Chubb, Kareem Hunt, Jaleel McLaughlin, Brian Robinson, Jerome Ford, just some guys that will be added to teams as depth pieces.

27:24Daniel Jeremiah:I'll tell you what, you know what, interesting one on that list to me, and maybe it's because I just see him twice a year in the AFC West, but Jaleel McLaughlin, every time I'm in a stadium when he's playing, he makes a play. Like, he just, he's a little something to him. He's not a throwaway.

27:37Gregg Rosenthal:Including in the NFC championship game. I need to check that. He might be a restricted free agent, but I have him written down. Let's take a quick break. We're going to go over the new coaching hires and just what impact that could have in the offseason before we get out of here and let you get back to evaluating all those players.

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31:43Gregg Rosenthal:Well, we've done it. DJ, the NFL has successfully filled all 10 head coaching jobs. Even if the 10th one is not confirmed, it is expected that Clint Kubiak will be the next Raiders head coach based on all the reporting at NFL Network. If you just add up the different reports from Ian Rappaport and Tom Palacero, it sure sounds like Clint Kubiak essentially chose the Raiders over the Cardinals, which I don't know how that's going to make Matt LaFleur. I mean, Mike LaFleur feel because that ultimately was the 10th job to get filled. It kind of did feel like it was the 10th most attractive job and that Mike LaFleur was the 10th guy to get hired in a crop of candidates that didn't get everyone that excited around the league, but they were the last two to get filled.

32:35Gregg Rosenthal:And we're going to go through a few of them, but why don't we start at the end if you have any thoughts on just like now what those two teams are going to be looking for. Obviously Kubiak, we presume, did it with the knowledge that he gets to pick his quarterback at number one.

32:51Daniel Jeremiah:Yeah, I like the move there. And the decision between Vegas and Arizona would have been a very easy decision. And not just saying that personally, but just being around the vast majority of folks in the league this last week, it was clearly, you know, hey, Vegas can be an exciting job because you've got a chance to get the quarterback here with Fernando Mendoza coming up. And I know I saw this discussion. I think it was Dan Patrick with Rich the other day. And DP, who I love, was talking about. I don't know if the Raiders are positioned to take a quarterback right now because the offensive line is so bad and he invoked like the David Carr situation when he went to Houston.

33:30Daniel Jeremiah:And the pushback I would have on that is I think it's that, you know, that's solid reasoning. But we have a team playing in the Super Bowl, as you know, that rebuilt four fifths of their offensive line in one offseason. I can't imagine if they would have said we're not going to take Drake May the year before because their offensive line was in tatters when, in fact, it was rebuilt within 24 months. Like that's that's not the biggest hill to climb as it used to be. So the Chicago Bears went from a bottom five offensive line to a top five to eight offensive line from Caleb Williams first year to his second year.

34:08Daniel Jeremiah:They have a functional left tackle already, which is probably the hardest piece to find in Colton Miller. And then they've got some other promising players that are young, Powers Johnson and Glaze. They've got some ability. You go out and free agency, sign one or two, you draft one or two, that bad, terrible, awful offensive line, you also upgrade the offensive line coach. To me, there's no compelling case for them not to take a quarterback. And so that's taking a coach discussion and flipping it right back to the draft, as I like to do, Greg. But that's where I stand on that one.

34:39Gregg Rosenthal:No, that's how we want to look at this discussion and like how these teams are going to build. I think just from a roster standpoint, the Raiders before adding Mendoza and now we can assume they're going to, you know, could be 32 out of 32 in terms of total talent. They do have a left tackle and Max Crosby. So they have two premier, you know, Colton Miller. I don't know if you call him a premier player, but a very good left tackle. He's a top 10 left tackle. And in the last year, I think some would argue when he was healthy, even better than that. He's one of those tackles, kind of like Garrett Bowles, who's getting better and better as he gets older.

35:15Gregg Rosenthal:So those are a couple of players. But defensively, you've got a long way to go. But you have Brock Bowers. You have Ashton Gentry in place. I'm with you. I just think, first of all, I can see why you got so far in this career. Because you were like, oh, that's a very strong argument. It's a reasonable case because you're talking about, you know, someone you respect and Patrick in all. I don't know Dan Patrick. He doesn't know me. It's not a good argument. I never buy that argument. Always take the quarterback. Don't over. You should always be taking quarterbacks until you get one. Forget about what's going to be there.

35:50Daniel Jeremiah:I think I think that same argument, though, works for running backs.

35:53Gregg Rosenthal:Sure. I agree. I agree with that. But I have a friend. You always say how you hear from people in your life who like the podcast and you heard that in Mobile. that that makes me feel good the 40s and freedoms of course they love move the sticks too maybe um my friend adam who hosts the saints block party podcast you know for half the season before they saw what tyler shuck could be they were all in that boat too and he loves this podcast he loves how much grief uh that you're but they were like oh the saints can't be taking a quarterback next year because they won't be ready anyways they gotta you know just uh get back like no you always take a quarterback when you can take it and so they're going to and that's why i think the Cardinals are in such a difficult position.

36:33Gregg Rosenthal:I mean, Mike LaFleur is bold, but that division, it just, it's life-changing money for a coach too, to get that five-year contract, whatever the money is. And I don't think that can be dismissed or you might never get an opportunity. You want to take a swing, but they are, they are really pushing uphill to be in that division against those three coaches and to not have a quarterback. It's going to be difficult.

37:00Daniel Jeremiah:Yeah, and I don't know what really the identity is. I don't know. You look at it and say, well, but they're great here. I mean, they've got a stud tight end. They've got a really, really good tight end. They've got a couple interesting offensive linemen, but I don't think that they've hit the level that they need to be at consistently. There's just a lot of homework to do there, and then there's just kind of the mess you're in with Kyler Murray. I almost wonder if it's worth it to say we've got a new voice in here. Like, dude, let's give Kyler Murray another shot. I just don't know where you're going to, you're not going to get a more talented quarterback than him this offseason.

37:34Daniel Jeremiah:I feel very confident in saying that you can, and I don't think that you're going to be an attractive landing spot for somebody like a Malik Willis. He's going to find playing time somewhere else with a more desirable setup than that one. So I, I don't know. I am curious to see what they end up doing there with the quarterback.

37:51Gregg Rosenthal:Like they, they need to find someone that's going to fill that scheme. And I am curious from an evaluator, like putting yourself in the mind of the front offices at some point. And Kubiak is essentially an offshoot of of this larger tree. Obviously, the son of Gary Kubiak, who, you know, once, you know, worked for Mike Shanahan. Gary Kubiak, of course, gave Kyle Shanahan his first offensive coordinator job in Houston. So those two were working together and then they were all together in Washington. the Shanahan and Kubi there's just it's all it's all to get you know mixed together at some point isn't it diminishing returns because you're all looking for similar skill sets and similar players uh in terms of the type of players that you're going to get and especially inside this I mean the division is just crazy that how similar it's going to look between Shanahan McVay and and Mike LaFleur isn't it going to be harder to get these guys in the draft with the types of traits that they want.

38:55Daniel Jeremiah:I think there's so many people running that now that it's goes so far beyond that division. I mean, I would say at least half the league is running a similar offshoot of offense and they've all put their own little stamp on it. Maybe even two thirds of the league is doing this stuff. So I think you're all competing for the same players. It's why it was fascinating to see McVay be the first one to kind of deviate, to go get two big guards and to then say, we're going to run duo and we're going to be a downhill. We need to move people off the line of scrimmage physical type team because I think some of that was scarcity of trying to find these ultra-athletic wide zone offensive linemen that can move like that.

39:32Daniel Jeremiah:There's a very limited pool and we're all swimming in it here. So I think all these guys who've had similar training and background and family connections, they've all tried to put their own little spin on this thing.

39:44Gregg Rosenthal:And Clint Kubiak is coming from a situation where he gets that guy, Gray's able, you know, in the first round and they put on this earth to play in that offense. Right. And then see, yeah, like he's no longer there. Like he had a nice year, but he has been bouncing around and talk about, you know, you always talk about quarterbacks who have a, a new coordinator every year. Like he just has a new job every year. Uh, San Francisco to new Orleans. He was in Minnesota to, to now, uh, the Raiders, uh, it's going to be difficult, uh, Flying through some of the other coaching hires that are most recent, Todd Munkin takes over that Browns job.

40:24Gregg Rosenthal:They're$10 million over the cap. I don't want to repeat kind of the overall preview for these teams that we did. But imagining, you know, with what you know of Todd Munkin, like, what do you think they're going to be looking for? Because they have an entire offensive line to replace. They're going to need to figure out their quarterback situation. Like what is, what is a Todd Munkin Andrew Barry collaboration look like?

40:50Daniel Jeremiah:Well, it's going to be starting with a blank slate. I mean, you know, from an offensive standpoint, they've got some key, you know, some key positions filled with the tight ends. Who's a stud and love Judkins, the running back, but they have so many other pieces to fill in, including an entire offensive line. They kind of build it however they want. And to me, I always look at guys of, you know, what, what would it look like? What would the build look like? Okay. hey, where has he had the most success and what did that scheme, player profile, roster construction look like? Well, he won two national championships in college at Georgia where they were the biggest, baddest bully on the block.

41:25Daniel Jeremiah:So to me, trying to build up size and physicality and then using that to kind of be the basis of their offense, I think that's probably where they start, which would mean you're looking at offensive linemen and free agency as you're trying to play matchmaker, Greg. I think you're looking for bigger, powerful guys. You look in the draft. I think I had him taking Caden Proctor from Alabama, who's 350 plus pound tackle. They can keep DeJuan Jones healthy. He's a mountain of a man. I think big is probably the way they go there. And I think on the quarterback, I don't think you, I mean, I don't know.

41:58Daniel Jeremiah:Maybe I'm reading into it, but the first piece of content you see is him embracing Shadour and talking about how he wanted to draft in Baltimore. That's the first introduction that you get to him as someone who's already been in this building, you know, with under Freddy kitchens in a forgettable era for his introduction. And that to be a part of the introduction feels to me like he's going to get every opportunity to be that guy this year. And then, you know, however, this year goes and forms what you do with all your picks in 27.

42:26Gregg Rosenthal:I think that's right. I think he'll be paired with some sort of veteran option. But as we went over last week with the free agent quarterbacks, you get pretty quickly to probably a backup as a veteran quarterback. option. There's not a lot of high tier options out there. I'm going to put you on the spot and throwing a tough one at you because Jim Leonard was hired in Buffalo to be Joe Brady's defensive coordinator. We didn't talk about the Joe Brady hire, but ultimately he was the coordinator. He's going to change some things and how the building runs, but the offense, yeah, he was there. And so I'm thinking more about Jim Leonard, who's been kind of a hot name.

43:06Gregg Rosenthal:Maybe the average fan doesn't know him too much but but he's been in college and then been under sean payton and vance joseph in denver like that's going to be interesting i don't know if you have any thoughts of like the types of players or what changes maybe from a mcdermott defense to a jim leonard defense

43:23Daniel Jeremiah:there i think just maybe speed um you know just thinking about jim leonard you know it's an attacking group that they had there in denver but they just that was a very very fast defense And I don't know that, you know, you look at Buffalo's front seven, they've got a bunch of solid players, but there's no real, you know, fast fastballs coming at you. So I would guess maybe just trying to be a little bit more dynamic with that, with that group at the first level and with the linebacker position, just getting guys who can really, really run. That would be my, my guess of what that might look like.

43:55Gregg Rosenthal:Yeah. And we're learning like with some of these hires, what they're going to do, what they're not going to do. We were already hearing Kirk cousins, you know, despite the connection or maybe because of the connection to Stavansky, they're not going to keep him in Atlanta. They also don't have a, you know, a first round pick. So they're going to have to be very active in free agency in terms of what they want to do, addressing the offensive line and in different offensive positions, Jesse Minter hires Declan Doyle as the offensive coordinator in Baltimore. Why do you think that's a fun one?

44:24Daniel Jeremiah:Well, I just think you're taking some, is he the same age as Lamar? I think, isn't he right? They're the same age. Someone I honestly have never met, I don't know. I was asking about him at the Senior Bowl, just the people that have been around him. And it was all really good feedback. Just a bright young guy and kind of grouping him with Udinski and two guys who were just kind of ahead of their time a little bit. And the timeline of things being so young and progressing through their careers. But he's creative. I thought they did a great job to get a chance to learn under Ben Johnson. and the job they did with Caleb is just got better and better and better throughout the year.

44:59Daniel Jeremiah:I'm curious to see how, you know, how Lamar takes to that and how Lamar enjoys being coached by somebody literally his own age.

45:08Gregg Rosenthal:And like we assume that he's going to take a lot from his experience under Ben Johnson last year. But yeah, it's becoming a trend like Sean Mannion getting this job with Philadelphia very young. You mentioned you didn't ski like shield house is now going to be elevated to the offense.

45:28Daniel Jeremiah:Can I say one thing about your house, by the way?

45:29Gregg Rosenthal:Yeah, please.

45:30Daniel Jeremiah:I talked to someone who was in the interviews with him and said, they were like blown away. Like, like he was, he said, you can make a case of the best, the best interview, like the most impressive guy. Literally. It was just at the end of the day, he just doesn't have enough experience. So I think him and I haven't seen it if it's been reported yet, but, uh, If LeFleur get in the Arizona job, I'm assuming he will just kind of slide into the coordinator's role with the Rams. But this is a one-year – if you're a Rams fan, you got him for one year. Because what I heard, how impressive he was, he'll be a head coach next year.

46:06Gregg Rosenthal:Wow. Yeah, they haven't officially announced that. They did officially announce extensions for Sean McVay and Les Snead. Well-deserved. On Monday morning. They've been there 10 years. I saw that in the little clip. It is really crazy to think about the hiring of McVay. And he was the shield house of his era where people were like, who?

46:28Daniel Jeremiah:Remember the boy band coach? That was the knock on. They just hired somebody from a boy band to be their head coach. And he's too young. This is idiotic. And they're just trying to sell L.A. and Hollywood. So they got this good looking young kid who has no business being a head coach. And it's like you pulled everybody right now. And he would be number one on the list of the best head coaches in the NFL.

46:46Gregg Rosenthal:and and less than him have shown look uh sometimes an arranged marriage can absolutely work because less need was with jeff fisher for a number of years with thest louis rams and wondering how that combo was was gonna work and and here they are uh in the mix each and every year like we're in the mix each and every week dj we i gotta go to the super bowl i mean uh you're they probably

47:09Daniel Jeremiah:have you doing studio stuff this week are you going up no no i'm i'm in the cave trying to get players watched and just trying to work hard but you enjoy that boondoggle up there get yourself a little sourdough uh a little soup soup bowl up there get to go off the wharf get yourself some

47:24Gregg Rosenthal:uh some clam chowder i mean it's not a boondoggle we we have about 20 guests lined up over three days wednesday to friday on nfl daily so yes who's your best one let's line i mean justin jefferson in terms of just who's the best player um what's he pitching old spice what's he pitching I'm sure he's pitching something. Jackson dart is, is a fun one, but there, there, there's a lot of good ones. Um, might have to have Malcolm Butler on for like the fourth time he's Malcolm Butler's is always around.

47:54Daniel Jeremiah:He's Superbowl week. He's going to pop in there like Larry Brown. It's Larry Brown, Malcolm Butler.

47:58Gregg Rosenthal:Oh, you know which one I'm excited. Actually, I don't think Malcolm Butler is on the agenda this week. It's a little bit of a random one, but I'm very excited that Bo Jackson is going to be on the show.

48:08Daniel Jeremiah:You guys got the Ohio state running back on there.

48:12Gregg Rosenthal:Oh, the other one. The great video game player, the great super tech mobile player, Bo Jackson. But I believe we're on the docket. You know, we don't quit. We're going to be back next week. And yes, let's break down another free agency position. Let's talk about what's what's happening in the draft. And we'll talk about the Patriots having done it again with a second year quarterback being Super Bowl champions.

48:33Daniel Jeremiah:How about that? Maybe looking forward to next week, buddy. This is fun. Really? Yes. I kind of like the new environment here you know I just feel like I'm in a kid's room talking to someone who looks like a kid and I just I think it all kind of comes together

48:47Gregg Rosenthal:I mean looking like a kid is the nicest thing you said to me all day all my kids tell me is how old I look you look fantastic who stole his dad's watch that's it that's it for 40s and free agents this week we'll see you after the Super Bowl

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