40s and Free Agents: Rookies and Roster Cuts

2 Sep 2026 · 47 min · 15 chapters

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In short

NFL roster management and quarterback/rookie projections, focusing on “free agents” and roster cuts; includes debates on Will Levis vs. reclamation QBs, teams carrying extra QBs, trench-heavy roster construction, and best/worst case fantasy outlooks for rookies.

Guest backgrounds

Mike Yam and Trevor Sykema (NFL analysts; Trevor is a former NFL scout/analyst). Lance “LZ” (Lance Travis Sikama) is the co-host/guest who provides rookie best/worst case scenarios and stat projections.

Key claims

  • Levis’ NFL issues are mental processing/anticipation plus mechanical warts; better suited as a low-risk flyer than an early-pick bet.
  • Quinn Ewers has a better path as a backup/game-manager due to resilience, mental fortitude, and development with Liam Cohen in Jacksonville.
  • Some teams keep four QBs to avoid losing practice-squad options; Steelers’ choice is questioned given limited OL spots.
  • Trend toward keeping more trench players (Jaguars 11 defensive linemen; Texans 23 linemen/12 OL) to protect playoff hopes from injury and maintain chemistry.

Notable examples

  • Malik Willis’ turnaround with Matt LaFleur (Green Bay) and later “bag” with Miami.
  • Steelers: no 1st-round picks from 2018-2023 still on roster (Edmonds, Bush, Harris, Pickett, Broderick Jones traded).
  • Evan Neal’s failure framed as lack of elite anticipation/instincts despite talent.
  • Rookie projections: Jeremiah Love (high-ankle sprain risk), Makai Lemon (middle-of-field usage), Reuben Bain (Bucs rookie of year; 9.5 sacks projected).

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Introduction to the Episode

1:04 to 1:30

Hosts introduce the new version of the podcast and discuss the upcoming football season.

“The entire draft room groans because you just took the guy they wanted.”

Introduction to the Episode

2:10 to 3:38

Hosts introduce the new version of the podcast and discuss the upcoming football season.

“Welcome, 40s and Free Agents, a new version.”

Quarterback Draft Class Analysis

3:38 to 5:04

Discussion on Will Levis and the challenges of evaluating the quarterback draft class.

“Like the kid from Tampa that is going back to LSU or whatever, he got a couple sacks against the Jags.”

Levis vs. Other Quarterbacks

5:04 to 8:13

In-depth analysis comparing Will Levis with other quarterbacks and their draft potential.

“But to me, he was more like a guy you'd take in a second round.”

Quinn Ewers Evaluation

8:13 to 10:33

Discussion about Quinn Ewers' evaluation and potential as a quarterback.

“Do we believe that he has enough redeeming qualities to take a flyer on him?”

Quarterback Roster Strategies

10:33 to 14:00

Exploration of NFL teams keeping multiple quarterbacks and the strategies behind it.

“I think Quinn Ewers has a better chance to slide into an NFL situation and maybe become a game manager in the future than, than Will Levis who I'm not sure if Will Levis has that mentally right now.”

Quarterback Roster Decisions

14:00 to 18:06

Explore the strategies behind NFL teams keeping four quarterbacks on the roster.

“Yeah, it's really fascinating to see what teams are doing with the quarterback stuff.”

Defensive Line Depth

18:06 to 21:02

Discuss the significance of having a large number of defensive linemen on NFL rosters.

“If you get to third quarterbacks, you're probably losing.”

Pittsburgh Steelers Draft Concerns

21:02 to 24:21

Examine the implications of the Steelers' first-round draft picks from 2018 to 2023 not being on the roster.

“I was talking about the Jaguars and how they keep their draft picks.”

Evan Neal's Development Issues

24:21 to 28:00

Analyze the reasons behind Evan Neal's struggles with the Giants and his draft expectations.

“and it still just felt as though he wasn't focused enough on truly sustaining blocks as an offensive tackle, and that gets you in trouble in this league.”
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Evaluating NFL Instincts and Coaching

28:00 to 31:14

Learn about the critical factors in evaluating NFL players, particularly instincts and coaching techniques.

“A little bit like the way that we talked about with Will Levis, seeing it quicker, anticipating it quicker.”

Rookie Projections and Scenarios

33:57 to 42:05

Discussion on rookie players' best and worst case scenarios, along with projected stats.

“Does fantasy dominance sound appealing to you?”

Analyzing Jalen Hurts' Offensive Weapons

42:05 to 48:02

Discussion on the potential impact of Jalen Hurts' receivers, focusing on Makai Lemon and Reuben Bain.

“You know, the little leans of the body against the corner.”

Evaluating Arville Reese's Rookie Potential

51:00 to 55:44

Analysis of Arville Reese's potential as a rookie linebacker for the Giants.

“Arville Reese, best case scenario, the most naturally gifted prospect in the 26 draft class shines throughout his debut campaign.”

Cryptic Movie Reference

56:00 to 56:21

Explore a mysterious movie plot hinting at deeper themes.

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2:10What's up, football world? Welcome, 40s and Free Agents, a new version. I remember my guy, LZ, Lance Travis Sikama, who's the first time I think you and I have been on the pod together. And so we are reimagining the podcast where we get to talk all things football. We'll talk about, obviously, draft picks, personnel moves, team building, fun stuff that comes up. But first, I've got to say, what's up to the guys? What's up, guys? Good. I mean, it's back at it. Back at it. Football season's right around the corner. I guess it started with week zero, which I'm not a big fan of. I don't even know if they're still calling it week zero.

2:45But let's just look. It's the start of the season. It's week one. On to the next one. I will say, I don't know about you, Trevor, but I'm kind of – this whole skip the fourth preseason game. And now we have this much of a gap to fill in before the regular season starts. I don't love that. I'm not loving that right now. You know,

3:04Trevor Sikkema:I I'm with you. I feel like we're, we're, we're just getting to everything's really hyping up. And I suppose I get it. Cause you're giving the guys an extra little bit of time to get healthy, get ready for the regular season, which that I don't mind, but I do have to say, Lance, I, I totally agree with you. I am a, I am very against the week zero idea. But that feels pretty low on the list of things to complain about in college football right now. So I feel like we can't be too loud about that because we got some bigger fish to fry to get the sport back to a better spot. I mean, it's funny. So what we won't do today is we won't cover some of the kickbacks or the knockbacks to guys.

3:41And I'm going to say this. Like the kid from Tampa that is going back to LSU or whatever, he got a couple sacks against the Jags. Is it Jack Pyburn? Jack Pyburn, yeah. Jack Piper, and he got a couple of sacks. I'm sitting there like, oh, wait a minute. So you can get a sack here, but then you can go to LSU and get a sack. Get a bag. You get the sack here, you get the bag there, Bucky. That's how that works. Nice, nice. He is absolutely doing it. But I got to ask you this, Lance, because I think this was like one of your favorite quarterbacks coming out. Weren't you a Will Levis guy? Were you a Will Levis guy?

4:16I thought you were a Will Levis guy coming out. Were you a Will Levis guy? I was not a Will Levis guy. I was not an Anthony Richardson guy either. There were two quarterbacks in that draft to me. One of them is in Houston right now. The other one is in Carolina. So, no, I wasn't really a Levis guy. Just the quarterback draft was a little tough that year. And honestly, honestly, the more I found out after talking to teams, especially post-draft, they wanted to believe in him, but they just couldn't quite get there in terms of, look, the tape was bumpy, and the argument was that, well, he was injured.

4:56He was beat up this year. But I just watched two years of him, and I just saw flashes. But to me, he was more like a guy you'd take in a second round. And as we know, Bucky, a lot of times you're either going to first round or you're going to third round. It's only been more recently that there have been the slide-in second round type of players. But this is what happens when you get desperate at quarterback. You take a shot with Levis. You take a shot with Richardson. When they don't pan out, you're hitting reset again. Yeah, Trevor, were you a big fan? Were you a Levis fan?

5:28Trevor Sikkema:I did like Levis, and I was sort of of the camp where I would have taken him in the top 50. You know, I didn't love him near the top of the draft, but I definitely would have taken him top 50. And actually, now that I'm thinking about it, I think I did end up having him top 20 on my quarterback grades because I was trying to account for that quarterback tax that you pay. You know, sometimes it's like, hey, how do you do a big board? And I think that's a discussion, you know, for a different day that we can all talk about because I think people will be fascinated about it. But some people just go, oh, I'm going to create a big board and I don't really take positional value into it at all.

6:05Trevor Sikkema:It's just how good are you at football, the position that you're asked to play. Other people try to sort of take positional value into account a little bit because the better you are at the quarterback position, the more of a difference you make on your team. And the same can be said for some other premium positions like edge rusher, wide receiver, offensive tackle. But with Levis, he just didn't take that next step when it came to processing the way that he needed to. I think when you watch him at Kentucky, yeah, he's got a howitzer of an arm and there's all sorts of great athletic ability. But like Lance was saying, even at Kentucky, even if you loved Will Levis as a prospect coming out of Kentucky, Bucky, everybody would have noted, hey, he's got to take that next step mentally.

6:45Trevor Sikkema:He's got to take that next step with anticipation and being able to see defenses with a lot quicker speed and all that kinds of stuff. And he just never did that. Obviously, he was beat up during his time in Tennessee as well, but very clearly a reason why they go with Cam Ward and that he's the starter there now. And it's just because they didn't really believe that Levis was taking that progress to get to that point. Yeah, that's what I said, Bucky. I was just looking at the scouting report. Levis is one of the most physically gifted quarterbacks in this draft. That was Anthony Richardson, Bryce Young, CJ Stroud, Levis.

7:18Those were the big four. I said he's one of the most physically gifted in the draft, but there are warts in his game that may not be easily corrected. And, you know, this is the problem with drafting kind of projects, Buck. And you can speak to this if you'd like. I know in Green Bay there weren't a lot of project quarterbacks when you were there. But when you have projects, the problem is, man, if you do not have a plan and if you're not willing to be patient with the plan or like in Indianapolis's case, if the quarterback has early injuries like with Anthony Richardson, you get so far behind the eight ball that you can't get back out.

7:53And so after three years, sometimes after two years, these guys are dead in the water. That's the problem with taking those kind of quarterbacks this early in the draft and the upper, you know, in the first 10 picks. So here's the thing. We talk about Will Levis or whatever because he went unclaimed, so he has kind of like his pick of the litter when it comes to going to the right spot. Do we believe that he has enough redeeming qualities to take a flyer on him? Because we have seen some of these quarterbacks, they flame out in their first spot, but then if they get with the right quarterback, guru, and developer, they can turn out to be much better than we thought.

8:26Remember, look, his former teammate Malik Willis goes to Green Bay. He gets with LeFleur and that company. He looks like a completely different player. And it was like two weeks. He looked like a completely different player under that tool. He now go gets a bag from Miami. Do we believe that maybe someone can use Will Levis as a reclamation project and he can be a much better version of the player that we saw in Tennessee?

8:53Trevor Sikkema:He had Cohen. He had Liam Cohen, right, for one year as his offensive coordinator when he was at Kentucky. And I think the Jags just traded for Coyle. Yeah, they traded for Coyle. Right? Yeah, they traded for Coyle. So I don't think that he'd go back to Coyle unless he really just thinks that is the coach for him. But that would have been a connection where I would have loved for him to go to a coach that very clearly understands him, has coached him before, got a lot out of him when he was the offensive coordinator in Kentucky in 2021. so that would have been a spot that I would have felt pretty good about but not sure that happens anymore now that they traded for Quinn Evers I think he's probably their backup guy look I think there's enough there that you can you know take a flyer on him but I mean it's way different taking a flyer on a traits guy than it is taking an early pick on him so I don't think there's much of a risk right now unless there's a personality issue in the in the locker room that that would be a problem I think a lot of it is his approach to the game you know being able they say he's pretty intense.

9:56Can he get his mind to wherever it needs to be? I don't even know what that means at this juncture, but he's had no success in the NFL. Can he be brought along slowly enough? So you have two things. You have to get the mental right because he's never had that in the NFL because there's been no success and really hasn't played all that much. And then the second thing is all those mechanical issues, all those technical issues, all those warts that I talked about, that needs to be smoothed out too. And he's not probably, he's probably not going to do that with gameplay. So, you know, this is a, I think this is a long form, you know, frankly, I think Quinn Ewers has a better chance to slide into an NFL situation and maybe become a game manager in the future than, than Will Levis who I'm not sure if Will Levis has that mentally right now.

10:47I'm actually glad that you brought up Quinn Ewers because I think Quinn Ewers was a really tough evaluation coming out. If I'm not mistaken, I think he had an injury right at the end of that Texas thing that kind of led him to kind of fall down the charts because I think he went to sixth round. He was short for much of the year, Buck. Like he was injured for a lot of the year with two different injuries. And then he actually went to seventh round. So he got a sixth rounder. Somehow Miami was able to take a seventh and turn him into a sixth. But here's the thing about Quinn Ewers. Quinn Ewers at one point coming out of high school was the number one quarterback.

11:23and all the ball goes to Ohio State, gets a major back, then comes back to Texas. I would say of all the things where we talk about his talent, I would say his toughness in terms of not leaving Texas when Arch Menning goes there and winning the job, I think that speaks volumes about who he is and having a little level of success in Miami. Liam Cohen and those guys obviously saw enough of a talent, and I would say the resilience to be like, hey, this is a solid QB2. Maybe we can develop him and maybe they parlay this into another draft pick down the line.

11:57Trevor Sikkema:I remember I was at a high school quarterback camp. This was when Quinn Ewers was about to go to Ohio State. So we hadn't even gone to Ohio State yet. And there's a lot of recruits there. It's a pretty big quarterback camp. It was out in L.A. And a lot of these guys, these high recruits, three-star, four-star, and maybe guys who were almost five-star quarterbacks were throwing in these drills. and when Quinn Ewers got up and threw the football, everybody stopped and watched. I mean, it whistled like a Nerf ball and you're like, this kid's in high school and then you understand why he's the number one overall recruit.

12:30Trevor Sikkema:Then he was going to Ohio State. So, arm talent's never been the issue with him, but I think that that's a really good point of just how he's checking a box mentally, not being afraid of competition, wanting to get better. And I think that he's had a good spot with Liam Cohen now as his coach in Jacksonville. Well, and, you know, he's had success. I mean, he's made it to the playoffs twice. So he's won. Longhorn fans just wanted Arch. So some people argue that he never really got a fair shake in Texas once Arch committed. But, you know, he played hurt. So I really wrote him up based on his 2023 season.

13:09I guess that's the season. I wrote him up more off of the previous season. And there were still issues and flaws. But I still saw him as what we call a 61, which is a high-end backup with a chance to become a low-end replaceable starter is kind of how I saw him. And I still think he can be that in the league. But he has had some success. He has gone through things mentally. Like he has some fortitude, as you mentioned, Bucky. So he's overcome some different levels of adversity. He has had success in the collegiate level. When you compare him to Will Levis, it's a different like he's gone through different things and he's got a different type of pedigree that I think is is more likely to be smoothed out potentially to become a good backup in the league.

13:57Maybe who can step in and get you three starts? Yeah, it's really fascinating to see what teams are doing with the quarterback stuff. Right. So I call the game on Friday night. You have Nick Mullins, who was the presumptive number two. You have a battle that is going on between Carter Bradley and Joey Aguilar. And then the next day they make a move for Quinn Ewers. And you're just looking at all this quarterback movement. But the bigger thing was there were three teams that kept four quarterbacks. We talk about the standard protocol is you keep two, then you keep another guy on practice squad.

14:28But here, the Atlanta Falcons, the Eagles, and then the Pittsburgh Steelers, they kept four. And really, if you throw in the Cleveland Browns, because Dylan Gabriel is out there hovering in the mix, like kind of IR land. What is the deal with four quarterbacks being on the roster? How do you even manage that?

14:44Trevor Sikkema:I feel as though Hyros has been keeping four, understandable, right? Howie's always trying to think a step ahead. He's always trying to think about future draft picks, right? So you keep four, maybe you trade one of them, and you're getting some draft picks out of somebody that maybe you would have been cutting or waving for free. So that part I get. But Atlanta, I get as well because Tua has not played well. Penix is not healthy. You got Cooper Rush behind him, so you say, okay, we've got a guy who's at least started in the NFL a little bit. And then Jack Strand just played so well as an undrafted free agent, they felt like they had to keep him there.

15:19Trevor Sikkema:The surprising one to me was the Steelers. I'm curious if you guys think the same because you have Aaron Rodgers and then it's Mason Rudolph, but then it's both Will Howard and Drew Aller. to me the only reason why you're keeping Mason Rudolph is I guess if Rogers gets hurt for a small amount of time you know two three four weeks something like that you put Mason Rudolph in and if the season's not over you're hoping that he could just manage things and get you a couple wins and steady the ship a little bit if those young guys aren't ready but Will Howard's been there for a little bit you know it's not like Will Howard's the rookie he's been in the NFL for a little bit.

15:57Trevor Sikkema:Drew Howler's the rookie, and he played well enough to where I understand you don't want to move on from him. But I look at that team and I go, man, you only kept four offensive linemen. I feel as though you could have kept an extra trench player on either side of the football for that team, and that spot could have been designated to one of those guys. You know it's a long season. Those guys in the trenches can get beat up. I'm just a little surprised that the Steelers, given who those four quarterbacks were in their situation, were one of the teams to end up keeping four quarterbacks. Yeah, you know, they know who the starter is.

16:27They know who the most competent backup is at this juncture. And then they didn't want to cut the other guys they drafted. I think that's what it got down to. Will Howard, who I don't think is going to be an NFL quarterback personally. I don't think he has the arm to do it. I don't think they wanted to cut him. And then Drew Aller, who flashed, and we know Drew's got potential, but there's a lot of work still to be done. I think they just didn't want to have to, to especially with Aaron Rodgers being one and done and all likelihood he'll be he'll be done and and Rudolph is not the the long-term solution over there I think they want to just hang on to both guys and get longer looks like just they don't look you could cut them and run them through to practice squad but I last year the Texans kept Graham Mertz on the roster as a third quarterback and I thought why didn't you just let him go and stick him on the practice squad and they were worried that he would get picked up off the practice squad.

17:21So I think there's a fear of practice squad quarterbacks getting snatched up, which is why you see more teams hanging on to three. And in this, in those two cases, for quarterbacks where a team like the Texans only have two, they lost Graham Mertz, they cut Brett Rippon, who they had picked up. So they don't have, you know, a third quarterback. And I think if you're a good team, you need to have a third quarterback because your one concussion for a quarterback is out two to three weeks, Then you got the backup and he gets his ankle rolled up on. If you're a good team, you don't want to give any games away because you're battling for a playoff spot or playoff positioning.

17:56So I think these good teams really need to focus in on getting the best possible one, two, three combination that they can have just to just to make them viable. And we know third quarterbacks are not it. If you get to third quarterbacks, you're probably losing. And to your point, Trevor, if you get to the 10th offensive lineman, you're probably in a lot of trouble. although you're not really 10th I mean it's based on position but it is very rare for teams not to carry at least 10 offensive linemen yeah that's um that's funny you talk about like 10 offensive linemen being able to carry that much the quarterback when you have four it takes away from something I looked at the Jaguars roster I don't know if you guys have ever seen this but the Jaguars kept 11 defensive linemen 11 I have never seen that we talk about offensive line being deep where you keep nine to ten but eleven and part of the reason why they kept eleven is because brian thomas jr undrafted free agent shines dominates the preseason with a bunch of sacks then you have some draft picks like wesley williams uh zach durfee who goes to ira but they had a bunch of guys that they refused to part ways from uh and thinking about the roster composition and i know people talk about being committed to winning the trenches have you ever envisioned a team having 20 offensive and defensive linemen on a squad when you have a 53-man roster.

19:18To me, that is amazing, but it speaks to what you emphasize. Buck, the Texans have 23 right now. They've got 12 offensive linemen right now. Wow. And now, I don't think that's going to be – I've never seen that many ever. And my guess is they're waiting to see what happens with Braden Smith. I do want to say this, too. Trevor, you've seen this over the years. We've now got a one-week gap before we're playing NFL football. So I would say a lot of these rosters are still going to change a lot from today when we record this until game day. It's still going to look a lot different for some teams.

19:53Trevor Sikkema:Totally. And the common denominator, though, for the teams that you just brought up, Jacksonville and Houston, these are playoff teams. These are AFC championship, maybe Super Bowl aspiration teams. And I think both of these teams know that unlucky injuries on the offensive line can sometimes be the quickest way to derail what is playoff hopes. And I think that you're looking at these teams. I don't know if this is going to be the new wave or not to keep this many players in the trenches. But to basically say, hey, we drafted these guys. We've had them in camp. We've had them all summer. They know our playbook.

20:26Trevor Sikkema:Our coaches know them. We'd rather spend a roster spot and keep one of those players rather than in November, try to go sign some veteran off the street, teach them the playbook for the first time. They got no chemistry with the unit because obviously chemistry in the trenches is big as well. So I've never seen 11 defensive linemen. That's pretty crazy. And obviously having 23 defensive and offensive linemen, that's a big number. But I wonder if that's the thought process there is to just the familiarity and keeping that throughout the season. Yeah, it's crazy. And it's always funny when you go back and look.

21:01And so you talk about keeping so many young guys. I was talking about the Jaguars and how they keep their draft picks. But then I come across the waiver wire and I'm looking at the Pittsburgh Steelers. The Pittsburgh Steelers have none of their first round picks from 2018 to 2023 currently on the roster. Now, when we talk about it, because we all are draft draft nuts, we understand the process. We always talk about teams draft and develop to go over over six in the first round over a period. Man, what what does that say about the organization? And what does that say about what their roster is now if those first-round picks can't make it?

21:38Trevor Sikkema:Yeah, man. Terrell Edmonds in 2018, Devin Bush in 2019. Didn't have a first-round pick in 2020, but then Najee Harris in 2021, Kenny Pickett 2022, Broderick Jones, who just got traded in 2023. You got a couple of players that obviously are still around the league a little bit, but for none of them to have stuck the way you've wanted first-round picks to stick, at all for them. Yeah, that's tough. That's a tough way to build a team and have sustained success. You know, Najee, he was a guy who, I mean, it's just running back, right? He had some success. He had some success, but we know the career longevity is not great.

22:21I do like what they've done the last three drafts. I think they've done a much better job the last three drafts. You know, it's interesting because some of those picks, obviously, were Kevin Colbert picks and not Omar Khan picks. So it's going to be interesting. The combination of Pickett, Broderick Jones misses, that's tough. When you miss, because make no mistake about it, Pittsburgh Steelers fans will tell you, Broderick Jones has missed from day one. He just was not a player there that they thought he was going to be or that any of us thought he was going to be. But when you miss twice in a row with Pickett and Broderick Jones at two premium positions, a tackle spot and a quarterback spot, man, that's just awfully tough.

23:04You really have to kill day two if that happens on day one.

23:08Trevor Sikkema:So it's interesting that you kind of said there, Lance, that he's sort of been a miss from day one. He was one of those offensive linemen that even at Georgia, he gives me some worry because you guys, you ever watch these offensive linemen that they're more focused on shoving shoving defensive linemen than they are actually getting their hands on them and controlling them. I kind of felt as though Broderick was just trying to live when he was at Georgia off of athleticism and then just wanting to shove guys as far as he could sort of as a main pass-blocking philosophy. And I'm always wary of those guys that are just – they're trying to do that as a main method of pass-blocking because in this league, Broderick Jones, he can get off the line scrimmage.

23:56Trevor Sikkema:He can get a kick slide really quick, really fast, and he can get in front of some of the better pass rushers in this league. The problem is staying in front of them, right? Being able to mirror what they're doing, control them, make them not be able to get to those counter moves, and that's just where I was a little skeptical about Broderick Jones when he was coming out for that reason, and it just clearly is something that he was never able to develop. I was watching some preseason tape of him just a couple of weeks ago, and it still just felt as though he wasn't focused enough on truly sustaining blocks as an offensive tackle, and that gets you in trouble in this league.

24:34Yeah, and I don't want to scare Steeler fans, Buck, but Max Ahanichor has got some uneven stuff to his game too. He's one of those guys like Broderick Jones who had less than two full years of starting experience. You just kind of expect, okay, well, just keep getting better, and these issues will be coachable. Max Ahanachor, not a ton of experience, a lot of potential. There's some similar stuff there. But I don't know about you guys, but when it comes to O-line play, I like my hands and feet working together. You've got to have them sitting together. And then because that helps you stay in front, and you've got to have good body control.

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25:09I feel like if you don't have good body control, it is so hard to be a consistent lineman in the league. So it's funny because you're talking about offensive linemen. So now I got to ask you, what happened with Evan Neal? I think we all were in the same camp. Look, at a minimum, he was a top 15 player in the draft. He goes in the top 10. He goes seven to the Giants. And he never becomes anything like what we thought it would be based on how he played at Alabama. Like, how can we or the Giants or whatever, is it a talent issue? Is it a developmental issue? Like, why didn't Evan Neal make it with the Giants?

25:44I must say this, Trevor, and I'll let you take it from there. he was at Alabama with good coaches on tape and you, and all three of us looked at him on tape. You could see the talent. You could see the technique. Yeah. I mean, some holes he's got to, he's got to, he didn't really have holes. He had areas that he needed to work on. And I remember one was keeping his weight a little bit down. I know, but, um, you get good coaching in the trenches under Nick Saban. You were good. I don't care how many times they went through a line coach, whoever they brought in was going to teach fundamentals. So the technique was pretty good.

26:19The traits were great. I just thought there were times, even at Bama, where he would turn off the intensity a little bit. And maybe that was an issue with the Giants.

26:29Trevor Sikkema:I think a lot of times we will say the cliche, I guess not cliche because it's true, that the play speed at the pro level is so much faster, right? And I think when people hear that, they think just overall body athleticism, right? Total speed, explosiveness, agility, those kinds of things. but the game the mental speed of the game is just as if not even more important and for me I actually went back and I was watching some Evan Neal tape from this preseason and you know I thought this was kind of some of the better tape that Evan Neal has had over the last couple of years the issue was I still saw him reacting instead of anticipating especially when it came to climbing to the second level, blocking in space, which that was the big issue for him when he was a tackle.

27:22Trevor Sikkema:When he was left on an island and he was forced to, you know, 45 degree set or vertical set, and it's just you and the edge rusher, the edge rusher would kind of, you know, shimmy, shake him up a little bit, have his body weight going one way, but then the edge rusher would go the other. And that happens because you're not anticipating what the rusher is doing quickly enough. And so sometimes it doesn't even matter how big or how long your arms are. If you can't anticipate the way that you need to, and I just felt as though that's been Evan Neal's problem the entire time he's been in the NFL, whether it was a tackle or guard, that mental processing and anticipation just never took that next step up.

28:03Trevor Sikkema:A little bit like the way that we talked about with Will Levis, seeing it quicker, anticipating it quicker. These guys who make it in the NFL, they are elite physically, but they are also elite mentally. And that's how you play free. That's how you play fast. That's how you play with a ton of confidence. And I just, I never really saw that from Evan Neal when he was with the Giants. I want to ask you something, Bucky, from your time in the NFL. So what Trevor's talking about is how I like to, so when you talk about critical factors, right, there are core critical factors that you can, you look at these for every single position and then you get to, you know, position specific, you know, player traits.

28:39So on the core traits, one of the things is typically you have toughness, you have athleticism, you have play strength, you have instincts, right? So I feel like what Trevor's talking about is the instincts. It can go by football IQ, but instincts is really your feel for the game. How I want you to talk about, because I asked my dad who was, you know, a longtime NFL line coach, I always like every time I talk to position coaches, when I try to get better with my process for evaluating, I want to know what is coachable and what is not coachable? What is likely to be improve their coaching and what are areas and my dad always preached to me look you know the old saying is the closer you get to the football the faster the game goes the smarter you need to be yeah center guard tackle etc um he just said you can try to coach things up with a player or coach guys out of muscle memory when the bullets fly there is no way you know once it speeds up to For guys who don't get it and can't self-correct or don't have instincts, there's really no way for them to really improve.

29:45Yeah, no, it's interesting, right, because a lot of it depends on the coach and what they want. So when I left Seattle and my buddies were there, when Pete Carroll was there, and he said, hey, give me all the great athletes who are instinctive. Like I can figure out the rest of it, but if they have instincts and they're athletic, I'll take them. And then there are other coaches who want more of the, a give me the high IQ, technically refined player who may be a lesser athlete, but I'll figure out a way to put him in our system and have success. Think about the Patriots and Belichick and some of the guys that they've taken throughout time.

30:19I think the bigger thing is from a scouting standpoint and from a coaching standpoint, you got to be in lockstep with the plan for the prospect that you bring in. Here's the player. What's the plan? How are we going to play them and develop them. That matters significantly when it comes to who succeeds and who fails in this leap.

30:42You're the best field operative I've ever had. You were born for it. In 81, the embassy went down. We go 25 million in the wall. Where? Hotel Tehran. This is bad. Like run for the hills, man. Do it now. I don't have the money, but I've got something more valuable. You shall know the truth. The truth? They'll make it free. The Fix, in theaters September 11th. You know the feeling. You make a pick in your fantasy draft and the entire room groans because they wanted that player. Or you grab a small school rookie off waivers and you start him right before he goes off in primetime. There's no better feeling than crushing your fantasy football league.

31:30I'm JJ Zacharisen, host of the Late Round Fantasy Football Podcast. Before your draft, our players to target and players to avoid episodes tell you exactly who to circle and who to cross off. We've got data-driven analysis, historical trends, and the strategies that separate winners from the rest. And your dominance doesn't stop with the draft. All season long, we have our 15 transactions, 10 trends, sleepers, and the mailbag, data-driven, quick-hitting episodes to help bring home that league trophy. Listen to the Late Round Fantasy Football Podcast on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

32:10The NFL never stops, and neither does its newest podcast. The NFL Report, hosted by me, Andrew Siciliano. It is your home for everything football. Williams, drifting, sprinting for space, in all kinds of trouble, put it up for next. He has a touchdown! He got it! For the touchdown! They've done it again! We're tapping the biggest news stories, giving you expert analysis, fantasy previews, game picks, and more.

32:38Trevor Sikkema:We fly around every single play! We dominate every single play! Want to hear from the league's top stars ahead of the biggest matchups? We've got you covered. They're a really good football team. We've got to have all hands on deck. Join me and an all-star cast of analysts for everything you need to know from around the league. Get new episodes of the NFL Report Monday through Friday all season long. Listen to the NFL Report podcast on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hey, everyone. I'm Mike Yam. And I'm Trevor Sykema. And together, we host the NFL Fantasy Football Show.

33:12Trevor Sikkema:Fantasy season is upon us. Are you ready to dominate your league? Because if you aren't locked in with us on the NFL Fantasy Football Show, you're already playing from behind. Every episode, we're going to dive into the biggest fantasy headlines. Injury updates that you'll need before kickoff. The best starts and sits across every position. And matchups you can exploit to destroy your league mates. We're talking sleepers, breakout stars, and the guys you cannot afford to bench. From rookies on the rise to longtime stars still at it, we cover it all. Whether you're a first-time player or a grizzled vet chasing another championship, We give you the advantage and the confidence you need to make every move count.

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34:09All right, LZ, look, you put pen to pad. You did some stuff for.com. You got these rookies that are in best and worst case scenarios. I want you to throw out a couple of names, what you talked about, and Trevor and I will react off of it. Okay. So it's funny. I was asked to do best and worst case scenarios and then a stat projection. So I was able to get my draft hat on and then my fantasy football hat on at the same time. Okay. So let me give some to you. I'm going to go with Jeremiah Love. Best case scenario, loves high ankle sprain, heels in a timely fashion, and he's able to start the season at 100%.

34:49The Cardinals established their passing game, preventing defenses from loading the box with defenders to stop him. He provides steady production on the ground and as a pass catcher. Worst case scenario, the high ankle sprain nags him throughout the year. The injury in Arizona subpar run blocking limit loves production. My final projection is 223 carries, 918 yards, seven rushing touchdowns 54 catches for 415 yards and two touchdowns boys I tend to think there's a better chance we'll be leaning towards the worst case scenario because high ankle sprains I just it just seems like these things happen and it's hard for teams and players to get right when it happens early in the year and I don't think the run block is going to be great I think this be Ashton Gentry part two.

35:38Trevor Sikkema:Yeah, this makes me nervous. Just like Jordan Tyson's hamstring injury makes me nervous, right? You're getting beat up before we're getting into the meat of the schedule before we get into the regular season. High ankle sprains for running backs are tough for me to sign off on. And I agree with everything that you said there, Lance, with both the best and worst case scenario. I'll just add an extra layer into potentially closer to that worst case scenario, they signed Tyler Algier, right? I mean, I think Tyler Algier is, he's the type of back we've seen him during his time at BYU. And then also with the Atlanta Falcons, he's a back that will give you his all every single time he touches the football.

36:20Trevor Sikkema:So, you know, if you've got Jeremiah Love and if he's hampered a little bit, you might have a player in Algier who, is he as dynamic as Jeremiah Love? No, obviously not. But can he get you three, four or five yards here and maybe keep that offense on schedule avoid those negative plays try to make the most of what might be a subpar run blocking unit yeah I think that he's got that determined run style and that ability to play behind his pads so I think Algiers presence could go into this factor as well for love maybe not getting as many carries and having as many yards as people might expect for him this year yeah no and I think it's tough because everyone brings up the Ashton Gentry thing because Ashton Gentry has us afraid even though Ashton Gentry had almost a thousand yards and had about 1300 scrimmage yards like we're worried because he didn't hit it out the park like a Jameer Gibbs he hasn't shown the Bajon Robinson thing but let's give him time to see if he can cook and clink Kubiak's system what Jeremiah loved like look I thought arguably you can make the case that he was the best prospect in the draft he goes to Arizona.

37:24And the one thing that I'm holding out hope for is that Michael LeFleur was there when Ty Gurley was kind of running the show and really helping elevate Jared Goff. I'm hoping that they can find a way to utilize the running game to do that. You talk about Tyler Aguirre, there's more than enough carries for them to split it. But I do believe that Jeremiah Love has to be the focal point. I was worried about the ankle injury, but I did see firsthand how well he looked, toting the rock against the Raiders, if healthy. I mean, we're talking about a guy that is a game changer at the position. Yeah. So I'm just holding out hope that he can get back to full health and give them the spark that they need.

38:00Because, look, they have weapons outside around him. But, man, if they can have a steady running game, it'll make life much easier for the quarterback. I feel like Trevor's too young to remember this, Buck. But do you remember when Ricky Williams had that sprain, had the high ankle sprain his rookie year, and it was never the same. He kept trying to play on it. They kept trying, you know, he re-aggravated it. There was all that pressure because the Saints had traded an entire draft for him. We know the same thing happened with Saquon Barkley. I think it was in year two. You know, it's tough on running backs because you want to come back and you want to get as close to 100 % as possible, but they usually get to 85%, 90%.

38:39A lot of times that's not good enough, but you got to get all the way there.

38:42Trevor Sikkema:Yeah, it's tough. By the way, I do remember the Mike Dickett trade for Ricky Williams. I certainly remember that lore where he makes the trade, lights up a cigar, basically says, all right, now I'm going to play golf the rest of the weekend. We're good here. Lazy. Lazy. All right, Makai Lemon. I'm going to hit you guys with Lemon and see what you think of this because I think he's an interesting one. There's a lot of layers here to get through. Best case scenario, Jalen Hurts takes to new offense coordinator Sean Mannion's passing game concepts. The quarterback consistently targets the middle of the field, allowing Lemon, a noted route runner and ball winner, to compete with Devontae Smith for the team lead in receptions.

39:23Worst case scenario, Lemon struggles to get up to speed after missing valuable practice reps this month with a hamstring injury. Hollywood Brown takes advantage of his opportunity, leaning to a lot of time on the sideline for Lemon. My projected stats lean more towards best case scenario with 63 catches for 782 yards and five touchdowns. Not a crazy year, but what I wanted to ask you guys about, so Jalen Hurts most notably, and you know this probably coming from PFF, Trevor, he's not a guy that targets the middle of the field in the past. Sean Mannion wants to use levels, and he wants to use the entire field.

40:01And if we were to believe what I think Jeremy Fowler wrote, they plan on really jackhammering this into, hey, this offense, this is what you need to do, and we want to really make you use the middle of the field. How do you guys see Lemon? You know, there's no A.J. Brown. You've got a team that's won at a high level previously, running the football. You still have Saquon Barkley. There's just something about Makai Lemon that I think that Jalen Hurts is going to end up really liking.

40:27Trevor Sikkema:Buck, I'm curious. What were your thoughts on Lemon when he was coming out? You know, the funny thing is I wasn't as high on him as some of the other guys. I thought he was a good route runner. I loved his versatility in terms of being able to play outside and inside. I didn't compare him to like a lot of people talked about Amon Ross St. Brown I felt like Amon Ross St. Brown had a little more dog and feistiness to him that said I think in this offense when he doesn't have to be the quote unquote number one he can have a lot of production over the middle of the field because he can get open he can get loose he's terrific with the ball in his hands I just wonder how I just need to see visually how they're going to put this offense together with Devontae Smith I would say a slender wide receiver one and then a guy that is your first rounder who is more of a maybe slot player kind of being your number two receiver I just trying to figure out how all this works but I will say I saw Donterian Wicks in one-on-ones maybe it was the Patriots he was wearing somebody out in one-on-ones over and over again how they can put the piece of the puzzle together but I think look I think Lemon is talented I do think that they at least have the pieces to run an offense that should open things up over the middle whether it is you know Barkley's presence in the backfield alone still having Dallas Goddard um having Dontavia Wicks who was when he was at his best with the Packers he was that vertical stretching type of a wide receiver sort of like a you know an all or nothing type of a player but definitely valuable in what he was able to do from a vertical perspective you have Hollywood Brown as well you guys mentioned Devontae Smith he can kind of do it all so that opens things up I mean like you you have the tight end presence you have the running back threat and then you have the vertical receivers to me that spells out yeah Jalen Hurts should have a lot of opportunities over the middle of the field and Makai Lemon is the player who I think should take advantage of that the most and I was a pretty big Makai Lemon guy because I was really hoping that he was going to go to an offense that could allow him to be that versatile receiver like Bucky was saying and I think certainly when you have him in the slot and you give him those two-way go options in space, he knows how to attack different leverages and create that separation, not just physically, but also subtly as well.

42:38Trevor Sikkema:You know, the little leans of the body against the corner. And then when you're cutting the other way, it's a little bit of a push off, not a full arm extension push off, but you're getting a little bit in there for some that's savviness, right? And I think that lemon was able to show a little bit of that when we saw him in that Trojans offense. And I hope we get to see it with the Eagles. Cause like you said, Lance, it's a needed part of what that offense is going to have to do to be successful. Let me give you my defense. A couple of defense players, get your thoughts. Let's start with Reuben Bain, the one who everyone loves to talk about in this preseason.

43:10He's had lots of good time. He seems to be the guy during the draft process and in preseason who fans just really gravitate towards. They're really cheering for him. My best case scenario, Bain uses leverage and explosive power to confound both tackles and guards as the Bucs move him around to mismatch weak link linemen on his way to double digit sacks and defensive rookie of the year award. Worst case scenario, offensive tackles show no fear of Bain's ability to beat them around the edge, allowing blockers to focus on his inside counters and bull rush while limiting his finishes in the pocket to fewer than five.

43:45My projected stats, 58 tackles, 10 tackles for loss and 9.5 sacks. He is my choice for defensive rookie of the year this year, by

43:54Trevor Sikkema:the way as a uh as a guy who has a mike allstock jersey right over here yeah i uh i like that prediction that sounds pretty good to me now look i i was a i was a huge reuben bain fan he was number three overall on my board so for the bucks to get him at number 15 obviously it's massive value for me and i think it's a big deal who he is and how todd bowles is going to want to use him i feel like The defensive line with Bowles has not been nearly as versatile to attack the pocket from all angles the way that certainly every defense coordinator wants, but mainly Todd Bowles, a guy who likes to blitz a lot, a guy who likes to send a lot of different pressures, right?

44:33Trevor Sikkema:It's basically just been Brian Flores and Todd Bowles going back and forth at number one and number two of how they're sending guys to the pocket, how often they're blitzing, how aggressive they want to be. And for a defensive line that, in theory, when healthy, should have Vita Veya up front, obviously commanding a lot of presence in and of himself. Kali Jekansi, who you can move basically anywhere. He can play anything from, you know, a two-eye all the way out to a five-technique defensive end. You got Yaya Diaby, who's a bigger defensive end himself. Now you're throwing Reuben Bain and also David Walker, their pass rusher from Central Arkansas last year, who missed all of the year due to injury.

45:12Trevor Sikkema:He's coming back. That is a versatile defensive front that I think everybody is going to have quite a bit of success with. So I was obviously a huge Reuben Bain fan in what I saw from Miami to have him as a top three player in last year's class. So I lean much more towards your best case scenario, but I also just think it's a really good setup with the rest of the players that are around him. Yeah, no, this is interesting because during the draft, Trevor Lance and I talked about, this seems like it was an identity draft for the Buccaneers. Like the players that they took, particularly on defense, they kind of fit the mode of how Todd Bowles wants to play.

45:47fast, physical, feisty. They had all of that stuff. When you talk about Reuben Bain, Desiree Trotter, you think about your guy, Scott from Miami. They had all of those traits, Kevin Scott. Now it's about unleashing them. And in Bain, because they had joint practice sessions with the Jags, you got a chance to look at the tape. Man, this dude is diligent about his technique and the way that he goes about preparing for each day. It's just a matter of when he's going to kind of like click and the light bulb goes on. But he is surrounded with enough people that he doesn't have to carry the weight of being the sole pass rusher.

46:22I think about Vita Vea being there, commanding the double team. I think about some of the other guys that they rotate through. If he just plays his part, I am with you. He is going to be on the inside track to win the defensive rookie of the year. Trevor, just real quick, do you see, knowing what you know about Tampa and Todd Bowles, do you see them playing Bain, you know, moving him and reducing him as a rusher sometimes on third downs?

46:43Trevor Sikkema:1 ,000%. Yeah. Something that, that I didn't mention that I should have is, you know, if he gets somewhere around 10 sacks, they're not all just going to come from the edge spot. Like he might have four, four sacks as an edge rusher. He might have three sacks as a defensive tackle. You know, he might have the extra two sacks as an outside linebacker. Cause he's, they're going to put him in a two point stance a lot. You know, they'll, they'll, they'll do some crazy stuff where I bet he'll be standing in a two point stance over the a gap sometimes. And you're like, okay, what, what are we going to do now?

47:13Trevor Sikkema:What are we supposed to do with this? I think it's about, yeah, he, he has that versatility and skillset to him to where if he gets something near double digit sacks, I think it's going to be coming from a lot of different alignments, how he gets that number.

47:32You're the best field operative I've ever had. You were born for it. In 81, the embassy went down. We go 25 million in the wall. Where? Hotel Tehran. This is bad. Like run for the hills band. Do it now. I don't have the money, but I've got something more valuable. You shall know the truth. The truth? Don't make it free. The Fix, in theaters September 11th. You know the feeling. You make a pick in your fantasy draft and the entire room groans because they wanted that player. or you grab a small school rookie off waivers and you start him right before he goes off in primetime. There's no better feeling than crushing your fantasy football league.

48:19I'm JJ Zacharisen, host of the Late Round Fantasy Football Podcast. Before your draft, our players to target and players to avoid episodes tell you exactly who to circle and who to cross off. We've got data-driven analysis, historical trends, and the strategies that separate winners from the rest. And your dominance doesn't stop with the draft. All season long, we have our 15 transactions, 10 trends, sleepers, and the mailbag. Data-driven, quick-hitting episodes to help bring home that league trophy. Listen to the Late Round Fantasy Football Podcast on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

48:59The NFL never stops, and neither does its newest podcast. The NFL Report, hosted by me, Andrew Siciliano. It is your home for everything football. Williams, drifting, sprinting for space, in all kinds of trouble, put it up for a game, he is up, he got it, for the touchdown, they've done it again We're tapping the biggest news stories, giving you expert analysis, fantasy previews, game picks and more

49:27Trevor Sikkema:We fly around every single play, we dominate every single play Want to hear from the league's top stars ahead of the biggest matchups? We've got you covered They're a really good football team, we gotta have all hands on deck Join me and an all-star cast of analysts for everything you need to know from around the league. Get new episodes of the NFL Report Monday through Friday all season long. Listen to the NFL Report podcast on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hey everyone, I'm Mike Yam. And I'm Trevor Sykema, and together we host the NFL Fantasy Football Show.

50:01Trevor Sikkema:Fantasy season is upon us. Are you ready to dominate your league? Because if you aren't locked in with us on the NFL Fantasy Football Show, you're already playing from behind. Every episode, we're going to dive into the biggest fantasy headlines. Injury updates that you'll need before kickoff. The best starts and sits across every position. And matchups you can exploit to destroy your league mates. You know, we're talking sleepers, breakout stars, and the guys you cannot afford to bench. From rookies on the rise to longtime stars still at it, we cover it all. Whether you're a first-time player or a grizzled vet chasing another championship, we give you the advantage and the confidence you need to make every move count.

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51:00Arville Reese, best case scenario, the most naturally gifted prospect in the 26 draft class shines throughout his debut campaign. New York Giants defensive coordinator Denard Wilson finds effective ways to move Reese around the front seven, leading to high tackle and sack totals for the eventual defensive rookie of the year. Or worst case scenario, Reese proves to be more tweener than linebacker, missing run fits and getting late jumps on plays due to below average instincts and recognition the team is left considering a position switch to edge at season's end projected stats 112 tackles five for loss five sacks and interception three pass breakups boys I'm just telling you those numbers based on his position and the history of that position for first round picks that is projecting him closer to the best case scenario I mean I like that I think there's there's going to be work to be done I do think there's going to be some missed run fits some late jumps I just think Buck when you're this physically gifted you're going to get sacks you're going to make tackles on just pure athletic ability you're going to chalk up the stat sheet I feel like he's going to do that even if he's making mistakes at linebacker yeah no it's funny like in talking to people inside the building there when he was taken they're like hey man this is gonna be our version of michael parsons we're gonna find a way to unleash him and unlock him as the inside linebacker with pads for his skills now he gets there you don't hear the same kind of buzz but you just know it's there here's what we know about arville reese if we put him on the field just athletically he's gonna figure out a way to create some kind of chaos because you just don't see guys that are that fast with those kinds of violent hands and violent intentions on the field then when you think about what denar wilson and how they want to be creative and how they want to get down in terms of creating pressure and disruption.

52:48You can see where he would be a centerpiece in that. I don't know what the number's going to look like because it's a nontraditional role with the linebacker being there. But I do know he's going to have more than his share of splash plays, which could be very beneficial for a Giants team that is looking to bounce back from a disappointing year.

53:06Trevor Sikkema:I think the really important thing for how effective of Arbel Reese can be in a rookie season has to do with how much better are the New York Giants up front and run defense on the defensive line because they were not really a good unit last year when it came to being gap sound and being able to defend the run with their front and if they're a lot better this year well if you know exactly where your fellow defensive linemen are going to be to me that just frees up Arbel Reese to kind of fly around the ball a little bit more But if you're not a great run defense team, especially up the spine, as they say, you know, the defensive tackles, the inside linebackers.

53:43Trevor Sikkema:Now, all of a sudden, do we have to keep Arville Reese just as an inside linebacker just to help against run defense on the interior? And we don't really get to move him around the way that, Buck, you were talking about the Micah Parsons type of dream. So to me, it all kind of stems from can they be better up front on the defensive line? And that will determine the versatility and the freedom that he gets to play with to maybe run around and get all those tackles. Yeah, it's tough, man, because he can either be Michael Parsons or Isaiah Simmons, who we talked about. That's a dangerous spectrum that you just put in front of people right there.

54:23It's too much natural dog in him, I think, to be Simmons. I think Reese is one of those guys that is just dog forward. So I think he'll –

54:33Trevor Sikkema:Dog forward. I like that. That's good. I think he brings a lot of his dog to the – he brings it forward with him every time he steps on the field. I just – I have a hard time seeing him bust. Isaiah Simmons was a safety who you ended up trying to play a linebacker, and they just didn't have a good plan for him. I think Reese is a football player. You know, to me, Arbel Reese is a football player. who's going to go get you. And while Simmons had the traits, I just don't know that he had the mentality. I think Reese does, but I also think it's going to be bumpy for the first year or two. Cause they really had, you know, it's funny.

55:07I wrote them up as a linebacker at first when I wrote them up and everyone else, well, I wrote them as a linebacker and an edge, but I had them listed in linebackers and it was started with DJ. And then everyone else had them listed as an edge. And I'm like our own draft tracker put them as an edge. And I thought, well, I guess, I guess he's an edge, but he doesn't know how to rush yet. He's just super athletic, super talented, just like my two guys are, Trevor and LZ. This was fun, man. First one, we'll continue to work through the kinks. Make sure everyone comes back and tunes in for the next time, 40s and Free Agents kicks it off.

55:42I think we'll be back next Tuesday. Until then, we're out.

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On this episode of 40s and Free Agents, Bucky Brooks, Lance Zierlein, and Trevor Sikkema revisit their old draft evaluations while breaking down some of notable cuts from around the NFL. The crew also reacts to Lance's best and worst case scenarios for some of the top rookies heading into the 2026 season.

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