In short
NFL Daily recap of NFL roster cutdown day (53-man rosters), plus notable injuries/suspensions/PUP/NFI moves and early-season roster implications.
Guests
Greg Rosenthal (host; NFL insider) and Jordan Rodrigue (co-host/analyst). No other guests appear in the episode.
Key claims
- Cutdown day marks the start of players’ pro journeys; some break out later via waivers/claims.
- Saints: Spencer Rattler earned the starting QB job over Tyler Shuck; Trey Hendrickson’s Bengals raise ends the saga.
- Raiders: Amari Cooper returns; Kenny Pickett acquired for a fifth; Jacoby Myers trade request denied.
- Texans: Joe Mixon on reserve NFI (at least four weeks) and Danico Autry on PUP; protection concerns could force more passing.
- Falcons: Caleb McGarry out for season; Storm Norton out 6–8 weeks.
- Lions: only 50 players on roster; likely adding three; roster depth concerns on edge.
- Patriots: Cole Strange cut; rookie kicker Andy Borealis made team.
Notable examples
- Bills: Maxwell Hairston IR (miss 4+ weeks); Mike White cut.
- Bucks: Kyle Trask cut; Teddy Bridgewater wins QB job.
- Panthers: Hunter Renfrow cut; Adam Thielen still on roster amid trade chatter.
- Eagles: Kenyon Green cut; N’Kobe Dean to PUP.
- Seahawks: two fullbacks make roster; “Gary Kubiak ball.”
- Chiefs: 53-man roster set; veterans Mike Pennel and Mike Edwards cut.
Written by AI. May contain mistakes. Listen to the episode to check what was said.
Chapters
Tap a time to open that second in VOCutdown Day Overview
1:40 to 1:54
Discussing the significance and implications of NFL roster cutdown day.
“It can help turn them into an analysis, tracker, deck outline, prototype, or workflow you can review and keep shaping.”
Cutdown Day Overview
1:58 to 2:32
Discussing the significance and implications of NFL roster cutdown day.
“Welcome to NFL Daily, where they never stash us on IR Boomerang.”
Quarterback Announcements
2:32 to 3:52
Analyzing the announcement of Spencer Rattler as starting quarterback.
“It's a really hard day for others, and it really just starts everybody's journey, whether they make the team or not, really starts their professional journey off in different directions.”
Team Dynamics and Cuts
3:52 to 4:47
Exploring team dynamics and notable player cuts during roster changes.
“The rest of the league is going to find out.”
Trey Hendrickson's Raise
4:47 to 6:49
Delving into the recent contract negotiations and raise for Trey Hendrickson.
“Love the development that he's had over the course of this entire offseason.”
Recent Trades and Signings
6:49 to 8:06
Overview of recent trades and player signings in the NFL.
“And a lot of these cuts we kind of previewed in our Sunday shows with Shook over the last handful of weeks.”
Amari Cooper's Return
8:06 to 10:17
Discussing Amari Cooper's return to the Raiders and its implications.
“Any takeaways from this saga ending, Jordan?”
Wrap-up and Social Engagement
10:17 to 11:28
Concluding thoughts and encouraging listener engagement on social media.
Kenny Pickett's Value and Transactions
14:01 to 15:55
Explore the recent trades involving Kenny Pickett and the Browns' strategy.
“I'm maybe giving Michael Mayer their second round pick from a tight end from a couple of years ago and their second tight end more.”
Impact of Injuries on Teams
15:56 to 17:08
Discuss the implications of injuries to key players like Joe Mixon.
“transactions, but I would assume Aiden O 'Connell is going on.”
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Quarterback Dynamics and Drafts
17:09 to 20:07
Analyze the Browns' quarterback situation and the drafting of Shadur Sanders.
“He's on the NFI list, which means they can go after his money.”
Roster Cuts and Surprising Moves
20:08 to 24:18
Review significant roster cuts and unexpected decisions by teams.
“certainly somebody that we think is getting better and better.”
Pending Updates on Teams
24:19 to 25:34
Anticipate updates on teams and player movements following roster cuts.
“They cut Cole Strange, who was a first round pick a couple of years ago by Bill Belichick that everyone made fun of.”
Pending Updates on Teams
25:55 to 26:35
Anticipate updates on teams and player movements following roster cuts.
“Tromphia is administered as injections under the skin or infusions through a vein every four weeks, followed by injections under the skin every four or eight weeks.”
Pending Updates on Teams
28:05 to 29:46
Anticipate updates on teams and player movements following roster cuts.
“Amazon Health AI presents Painful Thoughts.”
NFL Roster Cutdown Day Overview
29:46 to 30:15
Discussion on the controversy and details surrounding NFL roster cuts.
“A lot of controversy trying to total out these nuggets.”
Team Insights: Broncos and Bills
30:15 to 31:42
Analysis of roster cuts and injury updates for the Broncos and Bills.
“Let's fire through the rest of these nuggets.”
Quarterback Decisions and Trades
31:42 to 34:03
Exploring cuts and potential trades involving quarterbacks.
“Michael Hoyt, Larry Ogunjoy, Obi to the suspended list.”
Panthers and Vikings Roster Moves
34:03 to 36:10
Insights on roster changes for the Panthers and Vikings, including Adam Thielen.
“And I just, I find that to be a little like wearisome if I'm, if I'm the Panthers.”
Lions Roster Decisions
36:10 to 41:36
Discussion on the Lions' unique roster choices and cuts.
“I'm noting that none of these little additions are counting as nuggets.”
Eagles Roster Updates and Analysis
41:36 to 42:00
Updates on the Eagles' cuts and the potential of players like Terrace Marshall.
“Kendall Lamb, who I thought was a good pickup for them.”
Roster Insights and Fullback Usage
42:00 to 43:58
Discussing the impact of roster cuts and the return of fullbacks in the NFL.
“How early should we talk about this today?”
Financial Consequences of Roster Decisions
43:58 to 45:15
Analyzing the financial implications of cutting players and the mistakes teams make.
“I still don't know if they can pass protect.”
Injury Updates and Player Cuts
45:15 to 47:29
Updating on injuries and player cuts for various NFL teams after roster cuts.
“The Kansas City Chiefs have announced their 53-man roster.”
Surprise Cuts and Player Movement
47:29 to 50:56
Discussing notable players cut from teams and their career prospects.
“I would expect them to at least make another move before this week is up.”
Quarterback Situations and Coaching Decisions
50:56 to 54:49
Examining quarterback dynamics and coaching decisions from recent cuts.
“And all of that entails start to finish for a quarterback.”
Final Roster Assessments and Future Prospects
54:49 to 56:00
Concluding thoughts on roster decisions and future player impacts.
“since this popped up that he'd be, he'd be okay for week one.”
Running Back Cuts and Roster Decisions
56:00 to 56:44
Discussion on the notable roster decisions regarding running backs and their implications.
“nice upward trajectory to his career, which is cool right now, seeing him turn it around.”
Injury Updates and Player Performance
56:44 to 57:28
Updates on player injuries and performance expectations for the upcoming season.
“can do because he'll be playing for them immediately be starting for them immediately and um he's just showed a lot of promise he has a lot of buzz around him and this is going to be kind of his run game to start.”
Colts Roster Moves and Draft Picks
57:28 to 58:14
Analysis of the Colts' recent roster moves and the implications of their draft picks.
“I can guarantee he is going to get claimed on waivers because he is a talented guy who's put up some interesting film at the NFL level, but has had some injuries.”
Heartwarming Player Stories
58:14 to 59:39
Sharing heartwarming stories from players and their experiences during preseason.
“Insert Brian Windhorse, you know, pointing fingers.”
Final Roster Cut Updates
59:39 to 1:02:06
Updates on the final roster cuts by various NFL teams and the list of shame.
“And like I and in that moment, I just thank God, because like I said, That was one of my goals.”
Upcoming Predictions and Show Teasers
1:02:06 to 1:03:29
Teasing future episodes and discussing upcoming predictions in the NFL.
“And so you would think, Jordan, that that would take them off the list of shame.”
Upcoming Predictions and Show Teasers
1:05:16 to 1:05:44
Teasing future episodes and discussing upcoming predictions in the NFL.
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Transcript
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2:03Welcome to NFL Daily, where they never stash us on IR Boomerang. I'm Greg Rosenthal, and I'm here with Jordan Rodrigue to recap all the news and transactions that happen on cut down day. All the rosters are down to 53 active men, Jordan. Not a day that's like, you know, a happy day around the NFL, but it does feel like, OK, that means the season's here. That's a good thing.
2:33Jourdan Rodrigue:Yeah, it's a milestone moment for some. It's a really hard day for others, and it really just starts everybody's journey, whether they make the team or not, really starts their professional journey off in different directions. And my favorite thing is always by the middle of the season, we see some UDFAs breaking out, right, who've made these rosters. Or we've seen guys who got cut and maybe get claimed by other teams off of waivers or guys who find a new home on other teams. It turns out to be the right place. That's my favorite thing. But I'm an optimist, Greg, an eternal optimist. Yeah. And this is a tough day for, you know, fans of a lot of these players.
3:11But like you said, it doesn't mean it's the end of the road. And I said, you know, every team's cut down to 53 men. That's true. Some even went further. The Lions only have 50 guys on their roster, which is interesting. We still don't know. Like, as we're taping this, we're still waiting for, I believe, it's five teams. These are the teams of shame right now. The Jets, the Chargers, the Chiefs, the Ravens, and the Buccaneers. We'll check if they release their 53-man roster by the end of the show. We're taping this three hours after the deadline. You know, we kept delaying the shows, waiting for you.
3:47You think you're better than us, Jets, Ravens, Chargers, Chiefs, and Bucs? You stink. Get over yourself. Like, just release the names. The rest of the league is going to find out. All right, let's get to it. We're going to have Eric help me out here, and he's going to have to count the number of nuggets throughout the show because this is going to be a business-like show, Jordan. Me and you are going through. I don't like what you said before the show where you're like, what do you even need me for here? You're just like going through transactions. You're going to offer a lot. You love a transaction, Greg.
4:17Jourdan Rodrigue:I do love a transaction. Although let's just start because it was from Tuesday with a starting quarterback announcement. Take it away, Kellen Moore. Spencer Rattler is our starting quarterback. Really, really excited for him. He's done an awesome job this offseason. So he's just been consistent. He's made some really good decisions throughout this whole entire process. And, you know, his ability to make plays with his arm and his feet have certainly shown up. And so I'm really, really excited about Spencer. He's earned this opportunity. He's going to do a tremendous job for us. At the same time, we're really, really fortunate.
4:48Jourdan Rodrigue:We got Tyler. Love the development that he's had over the course of this entire offseason. My biggest takeaway with this one, Jordan, is that Kellen is doing what he wants to do. You know, you do wonder about this organization sometimes. Is it top down with Mickey Loomis making all the decisions or is it bottom up? And, you know, Tyler Shuck is the guy the front office wants to play. I believe he will play the majority of games. But I do like that ultimately Kellen Moore decided Spencer Rattler looks a little more ready, was a little more prepared and better in the preseason and reportedly in the practices.
5:24And I'm going to go with him now because he earned the job and we'll see where it goes. The odds are obviously against Spencer Rattler keeping this job into, say, November. Like October is probably the over-under here.
5:36Jourdan Rodrigue:Yeah, it's, I mean, who would be able to tell you who should be playing quarterback for you to start the season than a former quarterback who played the game at a very, very high level in Kellen Moore. So I would hope that they're listening to him on this topic. And to your point, that's exactly what it looks like so far. And also, Spencer Rattler's not a rookie. I know he hasn't played a lot of football, but he's no longer a rookie. Tyler Shuck still has some some learning to do, obviously has to learn how to prepare for these games and in real time situations. And Greg, I think that while he looked pretty good when we were at Saints camp, like good got better as the day went on.
6:12Jourdan Rodrigue:Spencer Rattler has been there. He knows the ropes. He knows what he's supposed to do. And he looked fine. I mean, none of this is great, but he, you know, of the choices you had, this seemed like it would be inevitable. as was the Jake Hayner cut. Right. And Rattler, I mean, look, he's younger than Tyler Shuck. Generally, you see a guy. Which you always love to point out. You hate old prospects. I'm just saying. In general, you expect the high second round pick to win the job at quarterback sooner than later. But there's not that many quarterbacks that are taken there anymore. So it's going to be Rattler versus the Cardinals.
6:44Good luck in week one going up against that Jonathan Gannon defense. Some interesting cuts there. Isaiah Foskey, who we mentioned. And a lot of these cuts we kind of previewed in our Sunday shows with Shook over the last handful of weeks. And then they came to fruition. A guy that our friend Adam reported back in the day, Mickey Loomis, put his thumb on the scale and said, no, do not take Brian Branch, who Jeff Ireland and the front office reportedly wanted to take. You're taking Foskey. He doesn't even make the team in his third year. So that's how dysfunctional franchises can stay dysfunctional.
7:19Jake Hayner didn't make the team and your old friend Cam Akers, unfortunately.
7:24Jourdan Rodrigue:Yeah, Cam Akers posted about it, too. He said the NFL is crazy a day before we are recording this. So I assume he knew this was coming well before it actually happened. Yeah, it's too bad. He's never quite come back from from those injuries. Clyde Edwards Hilaire was another guy cut from the Saints. You just on this, they see a lot of these names and you're like, oh, yeah, like he's still in the league. and it's just such a brutal road with the 90-man roster. The Saints also traded for a tackle, Asim Richards from the Cowboys, for a late-round pick in like 2028. Let's get a big contract. The Trey Hendrickson drama is over.
8:00That's happened since we last taped an NFL Daily episode. He got a raise this season to$30 million. Any takeaways from this saga ending, Jordan?
8:11Jourdan Rodrigue:Thank God it's over, you know? I mean, we were all waiting on the edge of our seat. No, this was always going to get figured out. It's just one of those things where, yes, there's a lot of drama in the middle, unnecessarily so, it seemed like, from the part of the organization. And a lot of people going to the media to share their parts of the story and the guarantees were an issue. And now there are questions about, you know, his long-term future, his longer-term future with the team. But he wanted a raise. He got the raise. He will be playing for the Bengals in 2025. After that, it's kind of a little bit of a gray area there, Greg.
8:48You know what? As we're taping, I'm checking the website. Breaking news just as we're taping. Not breaking for the people listening. They have set their 53-man roster. They are no longer on the list of shame. We'll have to see if there's anything.
9:01Jourdan Rodrigue:Another reason to just have a big sigh of relief. Thank God. I did think that the structure of the deal and the raise was informative. And Paul Daynor, your colleague at The Athletic, kind of confirmed what I was thinking was the Bengals had never had any interest in signing him long term, period. Like if if like they they just didn't offer him guaranteed money into the next year. This is essentially a one year deal. If you listen to Trey Hendrickson's quotes, they're like, I really realized how much I wanted to stay a Bengal for the 2025 season. of season. That was the quote. So it's, we've seen this with the Bengals before.
9:37Jesse Bates did the exact same thing. It was like a very obvious, this will be your last year with the Bengals. And they wanted to make it sound publicly like they wanted to keep them long-term. Apparently they had an offer where the second year of the deal, he got like a$10 million pay reduction. It's just like, let's be serious. That said, I just wish they would be more honest about it to Trey Hendrickson. I actually kind of get it. A 30, 31-year-old pass rusher, like at some point you do need to make a change. They wanted him this year specifically, but just, you know, don't give us all the nonsense.
10:12Jourdan Rodrigue:Yeah, I mean, if you just look at it from an organizational perspective, if you take out the fact that it's the Bengals and they do have such a history of these types of situations unfolding the way that they have over the last couple of years with contracts, structurally, logically, it makes sense that you know he I mean he had an amazing year um you know league leading year in production last season at his age there is no guarantee that that is going to repeat the worth of a long-term extension so yes all of this makes sense I think the issue is none of the other stuff had to happen you know I do appreciate though the raise was a fair raise I mean he had he had a 16 million dollar base salary it goes all the way up to 30 million for for where he is at that that is fair move along but good defense good uh news for also i do want to point out if you're watching this on youtube uh i had like a momentary momentary uh semi freak out i don't know it's a shadow across my face tucker my dog came up very quietly under the table and put his nose on my knee and i thought i was being attacked like i thought i was gonna die so that's that's what that was if anybody uh caught that sorry i i'm glad you pointed that out if if anything is going to boost our YouTube numbers.
11:28And yeah, do us a favor. We don't ask for too much. But if you're listening to this, hit that like button, subscribe. It does help grow the show. If anything is going to grow it, it's some more Tucker. So let's get Tucker. I know.
11:38Jourdan Rodrigue:I'm just going to put him in the chair. Actually, the next time we run through a transaction show like this, or like a book review, for example, I'm just going to put him in the in the seat just so he's staring blankly at you as you're rolling through all of the points. Oh, stop it. Watch out, Lenny. You're not the only dog on a podcast that's not really on the podcast. The Raiders, they finally ended our national nightmare here, Jordan. And by our, I mean mine. One of them anyway. Yeah. Amari Cooper is back in the NFL. Wow. He's back on the Raiders. Your list breathes a sigh of relief there, Greg.
12:15Jourdan Rodrigue:You had him pretty high on your top free agents list this offseason, some would recall. Well, forget this offseason. every single preseason game on NFL Network for some reason they brought the list back and it's just scrolling across the bottom and I you know I sent I sent that out on Twitter being like it's embarrassing at this point it's a personal shame that I just keep seeing Amari Cooper's name there and I was shocked because usually you send something that esoteric and that personal like four people care a million people are like yeah we know bro it's pretty embarrassing. Bad job by you on the list.
12:50I was like, I'm wearing that. Cooper was too high, but who knows? Maybe he'll be like their number two receiver. It wouldn't surprise me. Jacoby Myers wants out of Oakland. I think that's a contract thing, but the Las Vegas rather, not Oakland. The Raiders said, no, we have no interest in trading you. Sorry. We're just going to completely ignore this trade request. He had been wanting a contract extension, but Amari Cooper comes in there and you figure he's actually going to play right away, right? I guess we're replacing Dante Thornton a little bit, maybe the rookie in the starting lineup.
13:22Jourdan Rodrigue:Maybe. I mean, I don't know how still how much of a volume share he's going to get, because it looks like based on even what they showed in the preseason, then also what we know kind of about how they might want to go about, you know, playing this this offense is they're going to run a lot of stuff through the tight ends. And so Brock Bowers is still going to be the number one. Then you're going to sort of orbit a cast of characters around him. So I don't know. Yes, I think he's going to play right away, but I don't think it's going to be like this needle moving situation for him. Good point. If I was doing like fantasy shares, I used to have to project like I'm still giving Jacoby Myers more targets than Amari Cooper.
14:01I'm maybe giving Michael Mayer their second round pick from a tight end from a couple of years ago and their second tight end more. but a good guy to add to the mix. Also added Kenny Pickett to the mix. You know, hear today's news before it happens. On Sunday's show, we threw out there, Kenny Pickett to the Raiders. I'm sure the Browns would give him to the Raiders if the Raiders wanted him. And they got a fifth round pick for him. Somehow the Browns got the same value in a fifth round pick that they essentially gave up to get him. So I guess that's good business. I don't know. I feel like that's a small, small win for the Cleveland Browns.
14:40very small they got nothing out of them too but kenny pickett's hand sized win if you're
14:46Jourdan Rodrigue:you're the browns i feel like it is that was super mean i i take it back as i show my hand why why should hand size be like a an insult why should any size be an insult it's like sometimes when people are like you know oh yeah Like, you know, it's like some somehow like height is brought up and someone's brought up as short or whatever. Like, oh, sorry about that. Why would I take offense? You know, why would even you take offense at small hands? Like small hands are just as good as big hands. If you're a quarterback, you need larger hands to hold on to the football. Greg, this isn't about you.
15:23Jourdan Rodrigue:You don't internalize this insult. You know, like this is not about you. Jared Goff's made it happen, except for, you know, when it has like a little bit of moisture in the air. Except for like all the fumbles over time. you know? Look at all you're adding to the show. They cut their Tom Brady pick, Cam Miller. This has been on my radar that like Cam Miller was the Tom Brady approved quarterback, but they traded him to get Kenny Pickett. And for those just joining Aiden O 'Connell was hurt. So the Raiders are one of the teams of shame that haven't put their transactions, but I would assume Aiden O 'Connell is going on.
15:59Short term IR in Kenny Pickett is there and Cam Miller will likely be on the practice squad. The Texans had a lot of transactions that really mattered that had nothing to do with the cuts. So we did get clarity, Jordan, on Joe Mixon to the reserve NFI list out at least four weeks. Some mystery there, what's going on. And Danico Autry to the pup list. So a lot of guys that they thought were going to have big parts of their roster this year, three starters really, and gone for various reasons for various amounts of time.
16:35Jourdan Rodrigue:Um, this is a team that's kind of showing us that they really want to, um, throw the ball a lot right away and that they might have to throw the ball a lot right away. And so, you know, I think they've got the receivers to do it and they certainly have the quarterback. I just, everything, everything is sort of moot if they can't protect. So, you know, Mixon not being able to stabilize things, especially early on that, that looms large early in the season for them. I mean, I wouldn't be shocked if, you know, he doesn't play this season just from the sound of it. I wouldn't be shocked if he's back in week six either.
17:07I just sometimes you get a feeling with these situations when just the drip, drip, drip of info is coming out and it never sounds good. He's on the NFI list, which means they can go after his money. Why is he on that list? It there's setbacks. It's confusing. It's I don't know the fact that they're trying to win a title. And, you know, Nick Chubb and Damian Pierce are their leading running backs. They want to run the ball a lot. It's a little concerning there. They also cut the guy, Harrison Bryant, the tight end that they traded John Mechie for last week. So everybody say it with me. Howie did it again!
17:45I didn't really think you would say it with me, but it would have been nice. You never knew. Well, it wasn't in the rundown,
17:51Jourdan Rodrigue:so I'm not really sure what you were referring to. But yeah. That's just info. You can go off and improv. You can freestyle. Trent Brown was in the rundown. I didn't mention that. He got cut, by the way, former former 49ers and Bengal and Patriot. Anytime that somebody gets cut very quickly after agreeing to terms or being involved in some sort of a trade situation, I have the Simpsons gif stuck in my head where the guy walks in the door, takes his hat off, then puts his hat back on, spins around and walks out. That's basically what Harrison Bryant just did in Houston. I hate that. That happens all the time.
18:25You see these guys that just got cut, just got signed last week and then they're cut again or acquired. A lot of times those guys end up on a practice squad, so it wouldn't surprise me if Harris and Bryant add some depth there. The Browns cut Dustin Hopkins, which means that Andre Schmidt, how do you say it? It's S-Z-Y-M-T. One of the best last names.
18:49Jourdan Rodrigue:Is that a Schmidt, maybe? Right? One of the best last names on a uniform. I would buy that uniform. S-Z-Y-M-T. He's the kicker. They also cut Deontay Johnson, who I went back and looked. Talk about bad free agency rankings. I do one in August every year, which is coming out later this week, by the way, like a preview, a little early top 30 or something. And Deontay Johnson was in my top 20 last year at this point. And he has been on, I think, three teams since, four teams since. It's crazy. So would you say you're the good luck charm or the bad luck charm in this? I mean, the rest of the list looked good, but man, he had almost 5 ,000 yards in the first six years of his career.
19:35And he's been cut now by or dumped essentially by like four teams in the span of 18 months. It's rough. And I did want to listen to Kevin Stefanski, who talked about Dylan Gabriel, who won officially the backup job over Shadur Sanders with Kenny Pickett now in Las Vegas.
19:56Jourdan Rodrigue:It's such an all-encompassing evaluation, so everything the guys did in the games was important. We also saw a lot of them out here in practice and how they are at their craft, and he's certainly somebody that we think is getting better and better. Do you have any hot Browns quarterback takes? I feel like I've said anything I have to say on this one. No, and I feel like the world needs less hot rounds quarterback takes, to be honest with you. But I will say, I mean, it was pretty clear you draft a guy in the third round. You're really hoping he's going to be your backup quarterback. I mean, it's like, you know, circle gets the square.
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20:32Jourdan Rodrigue:One plus one equals two. You know, that's kind of what is always trending this way. And I am very high on Shador Sanders as a long term player in this league. and certainly people will be watching breathlessly to see his every move and his development still. But if you draft a guy in the third round and you have Joe Flacco and you need to find a backup, that is your third round pick is probably going to be your backup. Right. Him playing well really mattered in that sense. I think they would have traded Kenny Pickett regardless. Yeah. But it had to give them more confidence. I also don't think the Kenny Pickett trade was like necessarily destined to happen.
21:12That was a unique situation where the Raiders were kind of crazy desperate for some reason, a little overly desperate.
21:18Jourdan Rodrigue:And because their backup broke his wrist or something similar to it. So of course, you know, you could find, like I'd rather have Tommy DeVito for nothing than give a fifth round pick for Kenny Pickett person. But I can understand, but I can understand if you look at the sequencing of how these events happen, the Raiders are trying to not get to the point where they're waiting long enough to compete with anyone else for a potential trade. If someone else decides, okay, we actually want to bring in Kenny Pickett. So it's like, all right, move faster than the other people do, even if you're moving a little fast, like even if you look desperate, because you kind of are.
21:49Jourdan Rodrigue:You need this player, you know, behind Geno Smith on your roster. You need somebody there. He'll be there week one in Foxborough as the backup. One snap away from my guy, Geno Smith, in case he got hurt. The Falcons announced on Tuesday, Caleb McGarry, the right tackle, is out for the season. That comes as a surprise. We had no idea how hurt he was, and that's how hurt he is. Yeah, and by the way, he's the right tackle, and Mike Pennix is a left-handed quarterback, so he is the blindside protector for Mike Pennix. And also his backup, Storm Norton, great name, is a swing tackle, is also hurt. So it's like Elijah Wilkinson, who reporters were saying was at practice last week at right tackle.
22:36Jourdan Rodrigue:He's a veteran. in. They also are trying. It seems like they're in the market. They made a trade with Seattle for a sort of a depth guy, too. But this is this is not great. This is really tough. It is six to eight weeks for Storm Norton and the full season for Caleb McGarry. That's not great. That is brutal. And one of the bigger little, you know, bigger items to come out today, just in terms of like impacting the team's win loss total and great perspective there on the blind side, you know, on the right tackle. I was a person who did an entire in-depth story about field spacing for left-handed quarterbacks because I am a true sicko.
23:16Jourdan Rodrigue:So I definitely have, I have even more to share should you want it. I hope you don't, but I do. I want it. Eric, I hope you're keeping track, you know, of all the nuggets that we can put in a number at the front of this show. But I will point out, like I did leave some things on the cutting room floor. You mentioned that tackle going to the Falcons. There had to have been like seven tackles that I wasn't overly familiar with that got just traded around today for like seventh round conditional picks. KT Levenston went to the Browns. Right. That was another one from the Rams, right? Yeah. I left those on the cutting room floor.
23:51If those matter in the long run, we'll see. If it's your team, I'm sure you know anyways. Speaking of teams that we follow closely, The New England Patriots, after all the honking by me all training camp, kept Kyle Duggar, their safety, kept Anfernee Jennings, their defensive end, kept Kendrick Bourne. I think these are all for now. I wouldn't be surprised if any of those changed in the next few days. So all these situations are fluid, but they all are on the roster. They cut Cole Strange, who was a first round pick a couple of years ago by Bill Belichick that everyone made fun of. Looks like everyone, a.k.a.
24:28the consensus board, was right there. Marcus Epps, who's played a lot of football at safety, got cut. Braden Swinson, who was a fun fifth-round pick a lot of people liked, did not make the team. He's someone actually I think could get claimed by another team. And then their rookie kicker, Andy Borealis, won the job. Even though it seems like he didn't win the job, they just gave it to him because he was the draft pick.
24:50Jourdan Rodrigue:There are some great kicker names out there this year. Efton Chisholm, another great name. We just took it for granted that he made the team, by the way. But he made the team, along with Javon Baker. I know. I told you this. Back when I was at Vikings Patriots joint practices, I was like, this guy's making the team. I mean, I don't have a question about it. The way they were using him first and second team reps. Very, very clear. I don't know how much he's going to play right away or at all this year. But definitely, definitely a guy who's making that team. If they trade Kendrick Bourne, yeah, I don't think Josh McDaniels can resist.
25:24He's got to put him out there. Let's take a quick break. We'll get an update if any of the teams of shame have come off the list and what number nugget we are at right now. Back in a minute.
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29:52Back on NFL Daily. A lot of controversy trying to total out these nuggets. Eric had roughly 13. Jordan, what did you have?
30:03Jourdan Rodrigue:Like 30 something. 30 something. Yeah.
30:09Streets are talking that this might not be an exact number. That's very worrisome. But the exact number of teams on the list of shame remain the same. I checked during the break. Still six. Ravens, Chargers, Chiefs. Bucks. That's five. Not good at adding. Let's fire through the rest of these nuggets. And it's a day that Eric wants to be over. We kept him late. He also finds it very annoying. that all the insiders act like it's such a big deal that they like exclusively report that like the 74th guy on the Titans got cut, which, you know, it's just part of the game. But I could see how Eric would find it annoying on a hot Los Angeles state.
30:54Denver Broncos, they cut Odrick Estame. That was the interesting one there. They do have a nice deep roster. I was expecting to see some fireworks with the Broncos. I thought maybe there would be some trades, but there really wasn't. It was pretty quiet. Let's go to the Bills because that's too quiet. Maxwell Hairston, their first round pick went to injured reserve. So the rules for that, if we haven't been clear on that, it means they have to miss at least the first four weeks of the season. Each team has a certain amount of guys they can designate to return every year. I believe it's eight now, right?
31:24And you can do two at this time of year. Why are you laughing?
31:27Jourdan Rodrigue:I'm sorry. I'm in the Google Doc and I'm seeing Eric is passive-aggressively writing numbers next to all the things now. That's good. because he wants to be right about the count. That's amazing. Oh, my God. Maybe he's just trying to be a pro. I appreciate that. He's showing his work. Okay, you're out for the bills. Michael Hoyt, Larry Ogunjoy, Obi to the suspended list. They cut Mike White. He didn't make the team. Frank Gore Jr., who had some good numbers. I want that guy to make it. We'll probably be hitting year three on the practice squad. But man, they are thin in their defensive backfield with Hairston now out for at least four weeks.
32:08And Tyrell Shavers made the team. You know, Eric's got to like that.
32:14Jourdan Rodrigue:Yeah, I mean, we kind of knew, too, that this was coming up front for them. It seemed like the Bills signed both of these guys, Mike Hoyt and Larry Ogunjobi, like maybe without knowing that this was coming, because I don't know why you would do that if you knew that these guys were going to be suspended for that long. That's significant. Again, I am concerned about this defense overall. I'm concerned about how they start the season. They're going to have to score a lot of points early. And there was also some chatter. It was interesting. You know, they even addressed it locally a little bit earlier this week or last week, late last week.
32:46Jourdan Rodrigue:A little bit of like Curtis Samuel chatter too, just trying to figure out if maybe he was somebody who was tradable for them. So I still kind of have my eye on that as these teams try to figure out what they've got or don't have at receiver. Good call. to me he would be very tradable. I think he would help teams out there. And good thing for the Bills was he actually got healthy just in time to practice. And the injury is no longer a concern over the last week. So good call on that one. The Bucks cut Kyle Trask. The quarterback controversy is over. Teddy Bridgewater wins. Kyle Trask, I think a second round pick.
33:24I would argue though, even though he never played, But if you got him to be your backup quarterback for three years, including like a Super Bowl championship year, that's actually a fine use. Backup quarterbacks are worth that much. They also cut Trey Palmer, who had a lot of touchdowns for them just a year ago. And the Panthers cut Hunter Renfro. And your boy, Adam Thielen, still remains on the roster. Do you think he will stay there?
33:49Jourdan Rodrigue:Why is he become why is Adam Thielen? Why am I claiming Adam Thielen? just feels like a guy that would be your boy minnesota in general that's i just been like pretty skeptical of that receiving core for a while so i don't know why this is a fit but yeah i it's interesting there's been some like combating messaging being leaked slash shared across the insider network uh over the last couple of days and versus what people are saying locally about you know, whether he is also into the idea of a trade and the communication of he wants to, he would be open to it, but hey, the price is too high or, you know, those kinds of things.
34:31Jourdan Rodrigue:And I just, I find that to be a little like wearisome if I'm, if I'm the Panthers. And so I, and so I think, you know, just, just shut it down, honestly. I mean, they've got to talk after these cut downs and all this stuff. I'm Dan Morgan. I just get up there and shut it down. My guess, because I think he wanted a raise at one point, is just he wants, if he's going to bother to move, he wants a bump, a good bump. And I'm sure Minnesota is not willing to give him the money that he wants. But for this much smoke to happen, there's clearly interest on both sides. Oh, yeah. Minnesota has a need. I mean, he would fit right back into a system he knows.
35:13Jourdan Rodrigue:Like they have a need at receiver with some of their guys hurt right now. It makes so much sense. It makes so much sense. In fact, that it's a perfect time to ask for a pay bump. You know, like that's, that's where we're at with this. I think. Yeah. Like with Jordan Addison suspended their, their wide receiver twos, Jalen Naylor. And then, and he's been hurt. He's been hurt. Ty Felton, who hasn't been great. The rookie. And yeah, I think, I think they kind of need Adam Thielen. Plus it'd be more fun to watch. I was bummed to see Robert Woods cut from the Steelers. might be the end of the road for a very good player over the years with the Rams.
35:47Of course, the Bills to start out Texans. They also caught Chuck Clark, who was brought in to maybe play some big snaps for them at safety. Beanie Bishop, who I think had four interceptions as a rookie and is now not on the team. James Pierre. So actually some pretty worthwhile names cut by the Pittsburgh Steelers.
36:06Jourdan Rodrigue:Feels like at least a couple of those guys are practice squad candidates, too. you know I mean Robert Woods because of his just intrinsic knowledge and ability to just sort of slot in and blocking help pretty much anywhere you put him seems like he would be a viable I mean I wouldn't rule him out if you're looking at waiver claims and whatnot he's someone who I would feel like Minnesota may have some interest in not because he's going to go be your one two or three once your healthy guys get back but because he can help you and he knows Kevin O 'Connell and He kind of knows that system. Good call.
36:39Jourdan Rodrigue:I'm noting that none of these little additions are counting as nuggets. I would personally count them that way. I'm not judging. I'm just noticing. If you're breaking that down, I think the cutting of the Renfro and then the feel and analysis is two different nuggets. Because I think they're a little separate. I think they're separate. I'm noting in the doc now. Thank you, Eric. Thank you for seeing me. I appreciate it. The Cowboys put one of our favorite camp guys, Phil Maffa, on injured reserve. So he could be back during the season, rookie running back. And then their veteran running backs, it looks like, all made the team, at least for now.
37:19Miles Sanders, Javante Williams. Trevon Diggs is fully practicing. We mentioned that he was activated, but he's talking up potentially being available for week one. We'll see. But even that he's talking that way is positive. Let's listen to a less positive storyline, courtesy of Coach Brian Schottenheimer talking about Micah Parsons.
37:39Jourdan Rodrigue:Mike and I had a long conversation, probably talked for an hour about a lot of different things and addressed a number of different issues and things like that. And at this point, I'm going to keep that between he and I. But we had a very, very good conversation. An hour. And so it goes. That's like a Jordan Roderick, Greg Rosenthal post-show call or something. I mean, he thought it'd be short. An hour's a long time for a head coach to just be doing that conversation. I know. And whenever coaches say stuff like this, and this situation particularly, but over the history of the modern holdouts of our league, when coaches get up and say this, I so wish we could know what really are they talking about.
38:24Jourdan Rodrigue:How much of that time is small talk? How much of that time is checking on your family? Is there any part of that that's spent trying to convince somebody of something they don't want to be convinced of? How much of that is spent talking about other things? I mean, that's like you're not sitting there repeating. Could you please could you please come back to practice? Could you please come back to practice? Like you're just you're not just doing that. I mean, I don't know. Hey, man, we got new hit dummies. You'd really like them. I promise. You know, what are we doing? You can't do that at all because, you know, he knows he hopes that Michael Bars is going going to be on this team and he just wants their connection to be great so it's got to be a soft sell of just of just caring about him as a human and maybe maybe not talking about that like seeing if he's sleeping enough at night if he needs that nap on the trainer's table that's a little worrisome you know it's just your typical food coma you know who among us has not uh needed a quick a quick snooze a quick power nap after eating some nachos you know the lions they're not afraid to be different.
39:22They've got only 50 players. Mention that up top. That seems weird to me. Obviously, they're going to add three more players. They're not going to this isn't like the new analytics to just have less players, but they only have three edge players, I noticed on the roster. And one of them is a starter, Marcus Davenport, who's been available for a total of six games over the last two years. So it's a little worrisome. They cut Hendon Hooker, which we saw coming. They cut Dan Skipper, one of my favorites, which I did not see coming. And they have a lot of guys on PUP or NFI out at the beginning of the season, especially on defense.
39:57Josh Paschal, Aleem McNeil. So those are both defensive linemen. And then Malcolm Rodrigo, Malcolm Rodriguez, Rodrigo from Hard Knocks a couple of years ago. So yeah, just a little shorthand. It was just a reminder. Oh, they even though it felt like they didn't get that hurt in the training camp, they are missing more players than most teams.
40:16Jourdan Rodrigue:I wonder what they're cooking up to because it's not like, you know, I mean, it just feels like they're looking. They're going to be somewhat a team that they're not super high on waivers, obviously, but might be looking. There might be a team that's looking to make some trades. I mean, they're so they're so competition ready, like they're so ready to be a strong team right out of the gate that you're just sort of picking and pruning. But it is interesting. I wonder how many people across the league and other buildings are like, what are they doing? Only 50 players. Is this something new? Because the Lions are now sort of setting their own tone and a lot of different team building methods.
40:53Jourdan Rodrigue:So it's like, oh, what is this new thing now? What are they doing? Does it mean anything? No, it doesn't mean anything. They're going to add three more players. I know. I have seen it before, like with like 52 or 51, 52. Maybe 51. Never seen the 50. You made me think like, oh yeah, who would they sign? And there are some people out there. Zedaria Smith is not on a team right now. So that would not surprise me at all, bringing him back, because he was pretty good for them last year. Jadavian Clowney, not on a team at all. Both feel like they could be Lions, but Zedaria Smith literally was a Lion, so that seems more likely.
41:29Let's go to the Eagles, who cut Kenyon Green, who they traded for in the Chauncey Gardner-Johnson trade, former first-round pick of the Texans. Kendall Lamb, who I thought was a good pickup for them. N 'Kobe Dean is going to the PUP list. And Fred Johnson, their swing tackle from a year ago, was brought back in a trade, another one of those tackles. They brought him back from the Jaguars. Unfortunately, your first guy you mentioned in some show this offseason, Terrace Marshall, did not make the Eagles.
42:02Jourdan Rodrigue:Yes, you texted me. How early should we talk about this today? because I know you just really, you really wanted to rub it in just a little bit. Okay, if this was going to work, this was going to be the team that it works with. That's what I'll stand by that. I didn't want to rub it in because you're not rooting against a guy or one of your takes. No, no, you're rooting against me. No, I wasn't. I wasn't. I think our friend Bo Wolfe pointed it out, you know, even after that show, like, oh, it's interesting. Jordan led with Terrace Marshall pop. I don't even remember what we were talking about.
42:33Jourdan Rodrigue:Yeah, I don't remember what we were talking about. it was like something like similar to I can fix him where it's like it could this actually work uh could they actually find a diamond in the rough kind of thing and new faces new places this is a guy with traits and skill and I'm like looking at the eagles and I'm like if anyone can do it Howie and Co can do it and they couldn't so this is what happens Jordan when you're on you know we bumped it up it was getting to like twice a week in the offseason now you're three times a week. It was just, there's, you know, the history is rich. The Seahawks, two fullbacks made the team.
43:09Immediately one Seahawks fan was like, well, one of them, I forget which one. He's really a tight end, but they, they list them as a fullback for marketing. Well, I, if that's true, it worked. They should.
43:22Jourdan Rodrigue:That's incredible. Oh my gosh. Okay. I love this. Watching their preseason games. Cause they actually showed more of what they want, especially when the first team was in, they showed more of what they actually want to do with this offense and what Clint Kubiak wants to do with this offense. I'm trying to temper my feelings about this, but I'm low key kind of fired up about this. I love the fact that they're playing Gary Kubiak ball with a fullback. They're playing, they're looking, they're trying, what they're trying to be is like 2019, uh, Kyle Shanahan, 21 personnel, like we're going to run through your face kind of people.
43:58Jourdan Rodrigue:I still don't know if they can pass protect. We'll see. But like they they've got some dudes to help them chop away in this run game. And I really like it. And I like the fact that they're using fullbacks. And I think that is an important thing to be doing in the modern cycle of what we're watching in the league. It's crazy. Like everything old is new again. I just you see these 53 man rosters. You've done it enough times. And we had gotten to the point where there's only like eight to ten total fullbacks left in the league. And so I don't know how long it's been since I've seen two on the same team.
44:29It's got to be at least a decade. The Patriots would carry two some back in the day, but it's been a while. Unfortunately, Marcus Valdez-Scantling, I think, is going to win the competition that only exists in my head that I keep track of every year at this time, which is what front office gave away the most guaranteed money to a guy that didn't make the team. And I think it's probably Marcus Valdez-Scantling right now for$3 million because it's no slight to MBS. Yes, he got that. That money's guaranteed. He's getting that money. But obviously not something you want to do. It's just like burning$3 million.
45:02So next time you hear about like, oh, quarterbacks cost too much money, this or that. It's like teams make mistakes in the middle, in the bottom of the depth chart so much. That's like, don't worry about the quarterbacks too much. That's my take. I got some breaking news, Jordan.
45:21The Kansas City Chiefs have announced their 53-man roster. They are off the list.
45:25Jourdan Rodrigue:Off the shame list. Woo-hoo! Oh, man, they're having a big day, you know? Now down to the Chargers. That's right. You know, congratulations to Travis Kelsey and Taylor Swift. And by the way, great analysis. We've given them some pop here. But when Travis Kelsey and Taylor Swift did their podcast together, I didn't personally have the... desire to invest like that much time in it, but no judgment on those who would, but I would much rather listen to the sports gossip shows, like 55 minute recap of that two hour and 20 minute conversation than the actual conversation. So the, everything that you want, you can, you can go right there or now your colleagues at the athletic.
46:13Jourdan Rodrigue:Yeah. And I'm, I'm super stoked on that sports gossip show. I turned you on to them and I am, they're like my happy place listening show, to be honest with you. It's pretty great. Same, same. I really like it. No, you know, I was trying to read while you were talking, but, you know, I wanted to pay attention. If I had a nickel. The Seahawks stuff. But we knew Tyquan Thornton was going to make the team. We knew, you know, Juju Smith-Sucher was going to make the team. I didn't see many surprises with the Chiefs, but a couple of veterans, Mike Pennell, who's played a lot for them, including in the Super Bowl last year, was cut.
46:44Mike Edwards, the safety, who's also played a lot for them, was cut as well. Let's move on to the Cardinals. No surprise. They put their defensive lineman, Walter Nolan, Bilal Nichols, and BJ Ojolari all on the pup list. So they are out for at least the first four games of the season. The 49ers also put Brandon Ayuk and safety Mike Mustafa on the pup list. They will be out for the first four games of the season.
47:11Jourdan Rodrigue:Yeah. The really thin still 49ers, they're staying that way. Juwan Jennings' situation has shown no signs of resolving. Kyle Shanahan said he's expecting him to be ready for week one. He has a practice, so I don't know how ready you could possibly be. So this is something where I would expect them to. I mean, they made it with Sky Moore, right? I would expect them to at least make another move before this week is up. Yes, because they cut a lot of their depth guys. I think some of the younger players, they're hopeful, could be ready for week one. But if not, then they're going to have to get some guys in the building.
47:45They could be someone that makes a trade here. I did see almost like a threat from the team, which seemed wild, from Tim Kawakami in a written piece that they could go with the nuclear option and put Ayuk on the IR or NFI list to start the season. So that and, you know, like they just wouldn't let him play. Almost calling his bluff that he's not really hurt. Well, if you're not really hurt.
48:15Jourdan Rodrigue:You mean Juwan Jennings? Juwan Jennings, yes. sorry. Juwan Jennings, I'm sorry. Yeah, that's crazy. I saw Kawakami saying that they could they could trade him. I mean, that's like all of this is I mean, we he's pretty plugged in over there to that to that coaching staff in that front office. So this being floated a little bit, I'm like, oh, man, this is escalating a little bit here. But, you know, if you're Juwan Jennings is agent, the BS detector is so easy to read. When I read that, I was like, there's no chance There's 0.0 chance that they would put a guy on injured reserve like that. They're just throwing it out there as a threat.
48:51It's dirty business. My son's favorite player, yes, reset the show since Walker Rosenthal has been mentioned, meter back to zero. His favorite new player in the entire NFL is Marlo Wax. I mean, Marlo Wax, the linebacker on the Chargers, who balled out in this preseason game we went to and then was outrageous in their third preseason game, made the team. So I am very excited. We were following this. We actually don't know this from the Chargers. We only know this from Marlo Wax on Twitter, where he said, thank you, God. And I'm taking that as confirmation that my guy made the team. I want everyone who listens to NFL Daily to track Marlo Wax's entire career from the beginning.
49:32We're doing it. You have no choice. I mean, what if it wasn't?
49:35Jourdan Rodrigue:What if he was released and was like, I'm going to go find another team. Thank you, God. What if it was that? This is a pretty big risk that we're taking here, but it's the Chargers' own fault. You did this to yourself. You're still on the list of shame. The Bears activated their cornerback, Jalen Johnson, and so that's good news. They're at least hopeful that he'll be back at some point early in the season. They cut a 2023 third-rounder Zach Pickens at defensive tackle, and then I noticed TJ Edwards, their linebacker, was hurt at practice this week, I think today, Tuesday, so that's something just to keep an eye on.
50:09Case Keenum made a roster.
50:11Jourdan Rodrigue:I mean, 2025. I know. Like, that's cool. I clearly they value his experience and ability to help those guys out. he's like in also kind of a quarterbacks coach adjacent role in that room like he is very much taken on talking to people over there taking on the the mentorship role the preparing for x y and z you have to remember i mean kayla williams himself said he wasn't doing any of this didn't even know how to do any of this in the nfl from what happened last season and so So resetting and really building in, you know, Case Keenum, not many more players are more tenured at preparing for game weeks, whether as the starter or the backup than Case Keenum is.
50:57Jourdan Rodrigue:And all of that entails start to finish for a quarterback. That's awesome. And he really is the new Josh McCown, the like coach slash quarterback, because they just gave their backup Tyson Bajan a new contract right before he had one of the best preseasons of any quarterback out there. and that's a cool and young quarterback room. You could tell Ben Johnson really likes Tyson Bajan, which is interesting if they ever needed to use him. I think he'd be pretty good in that offense. All right, let's just fly through some of these. The Giants cut Tommy DeVito. I think he'll end up on a roster. If not, I'm sure he'll be on that practice squad.
51:33The Commanders cut some notable wide receivers, KJ Osborne, Michael Gallup. You know, former Raiders top pick, the defensive lineman, Cleland Farrell. They play Sam Cosme. They're all pro guard on the PUP list. And I just wanted to shout out Josh Johnson, class of 2008 draft pick. Josh Johnson, still in the NFL, made a roster again. Only three players from the 2008 class are on a team. Were you tracking my social enough to know I already tweeted about this? Because don't look. I want you to try to guess who they are if you haven't seen it.
52:08Jourdan Rodrigue:I did see it. I don't remember who it is. I have notifications on for you, Greg, because you're an important. I mean, that's an insane behavior to have notifications on for literally anyone on Twitter, I think, but especially me. You're an important person in my life. I don't like to scroll. So I like to just see what you're talking about, you know, without having to scroll through that hellacious website every day. And what if I'm like half the time, it's like Petra Kavitova, congratulations on her retirement. You know, you know, it's kind of crazy. I actually view you as a complete person. So I'm interested in the things you're interested in also, you know, like I'm your friend.
52:45Jourdan Rodrigue:So like I'm interested in like your hobbies and your life. And I know that's crazy. I know that's crazy concept for you there, Greg. But, you know, I am. You're interested in women's professional tennis that much that you just want the analysis. Although the US Open is going. It's a great time. If you're a bird, I'm a bird, Greg. That's like the nicest thing you've ever said to me. Malachi Corley was cut by the Jets. We've been talking about that on the Sunday night shows. The Packers cut Isaiah Simmons, Mecole Hardman. They put Christian Watson on PUP. Their backup running back, Marshawn Lloyd, is going to injured reserve.
53:22Isaiah Simmons, you said to me over text, kind of the ultimate I can fix him guy, unfortunately.
53:27Jourdan Rodrigue:He's the face of I can fix him defensive players. It just hasn't happened for him. I remember our friend Chris Wesseling had a long fascination of, Can someone figure out how to get Isaiah Simmons going? Sean McVay, I thought this was interesting, and I'll let you say if you found anything interesting from the Rams cuts in general. But I did note that he was quite optimistic about Stafford for week one. At this point, they're putting their names on it that they expect him out there. This has been from the beginning. I know it got a little dicey there in the middle. If Matthew Stafford had another setback, maybe we're not feeling so optimistic.
54:04Jourdan Rodrigue:But I'm telling you, and I've said this right from the start, that however hubristic it might have seemed, this team was internally optimistic that week one would be a go for Matthew Stafford, regardless that if he were like missing an arm, he would still be out there. I mean, I hope for him that he's protected. Allerk Jackson is going to be working back into team drills this week. The left tackle, that's absolutely huge. He's been recovering from blood clots so far through the spring and summer and sort of getting on treatment to manage those. So that is significant as well as Matthew Stafford being a go for week one.
54:40Jourdan Rodrigue:But yeah, I mean, I, this is just kind of, they're saying the things they've muttered and maybe doubted just a little bit in themselves over the last couple of weeks, but they've been muttering this since, since this popped up that he'd be, he'd be okay for week one. And you, you wrote in that a poop hall, the fifth round pick was cut. Yeah. The inside linebacker. Yeah. Fifth round pick. They traded up to get him and he was dealing with some hamstring issues to start camp. So kind of a delayed development for him. And then Sean Dolak from Western New York, and he is an undrafted free agent inside linebacker who made this roster.
55:15Jourdan Rodrigue:And usually when the Rams have an undrafted free agent who makes the roster, he's playing for them sooner rather than later, particularly at a position that they don't financially invest in. Definitely someone I've got my eye on there. I like that shout out. I like the nitty gritty. I like knowing some players' names to just keep a closer eye on. I've been keeping a close eye on this list of shame, and we do have some breaking news, Eric.
55:44The Chargers are off the list just in time, and this is why we want a complete show. I haven't even gone through their whole list yet, and immediately I see something notable. First of all, they caught Taylor Heineke, so Trey Lance earned that backup job. nice upward trajectory to his career, which is cool right now, seeing him turn it around. But they only kept three running backs, and one of those three is Najee Harris. So to me, that is really notable that he did not end up on the NFI list, and they're thin at the position. So they cut Kamani Vidal, which I was a little surprised about. They cut Naheem Hines.
56:20Hassan Haskins right now is the third running back. So it shows a little bit of confidence there in Najee Harris.
56:26Jourdan Rodrigue:Yeah, it shows confidence that he'll be back and playing for them before they are in dire straits and needing him to write like this is like sort of a calmness because you would at least keep an emergency option if you are worried about multiple weeks into the season and omarion hampton i mean i'm really excited to see what he can do because he'll be playing for them immediately be starting for them immediately and um he's just showed a lot of promise he has a lot of buzz around him and this is going to be kind of his run game to start. And Junior Colson was put on injured reserve. I didn't realize his injury was nearly that serious because he was not designated for return.
57:03You can designate two players for return. And they did a long snapper and a depth defensive back, but not Junior Colson. So he is out for the season for the Los Angeles Chargers. Last couple of teams will hit the Dolphins cut Mike Hilton. They signed Razul Douglas. So he's back in the league. They've been using this undrafted free agent Jason Marshall at the nickelback position. The Colts cut a 2023 second rounder Juju Brents. I can guarantee he is going to get claimed on waivers because he is a talented guy who's put up some interesting film at the NFL level, but has had some injuries. Not sure if there's something else going on there.
57:41They also traded for Makai Blackman from the Vikings for a sixth round pick and they cut Jelani Woods. Do you have any Colts thoughts before we say goodbye.
57:53Jourdan Rodrigue:I don't really have any Colts thoughts. It's more so that it looks like the Vikings are starting to stockpile up these middle late to late round picks over the next two seasons. And I always get curious when a team starts doing that. I always get very curious about what they're thinking and their team building model that's going to mean and why. All right. Keep an eye on the Vikings. Insert Brian Windhorse, you know, pointing fingers. here. Their cuts aren't out yet, right? Or are they out? I haven't seen, I haven't seen if they are or not, but they, they kept a Brasmer, the quarterback. They love that guy.
58:31Jourdan Rodrigue:They he's on their developmental track for them. Like they absolutely love that kid. Their, their cuts are out. We're down to now that the chargers are crossed out, just three teams left on the teams of shame. And I just want to make sure, cause we're all about being a hundred percent accurate that I'm going to double check and make sure they have not done anything in the last few minutes before I announce who they are. In the meantime, let's end the show on a happy note. And let's listen to a guy we mentioned on Sunday night show, defensive lineman, UDFA, that Kevin Stefanski loves so much that he announced at the podium that this kid was going to make the team.
59:13Aiden Huntington and a guy who hasn't really talked with the media much there and had something that just warmed my heart on Tuesday. I've been watching Brian Baldy for years. I had videos saved from my Twitter. And actually, one of my goals, you know, coming here was, you know, him to make a positive video about me. So when I had saw the I got tagged, I looked at the phone, I blinked. It was surreal. And like I and in that moment, I just thank God, because like I said, That was one of my goals. And, you know, a lot of times people get those videos for not so positive things. So just for it to be a positive video and, you know, in this positive reinforcement.
59:51But like I said, I have to continue to work. I have to continue to do the things that I did to get me here and maybe even do a little bit more so I can stay here. I love that.
1:00:01Jourdan Rodrigue:Oh, that's so nice. Oh, my gosh. I love that. I love that Baldy, through just his pure love of football, we have our show, The Reasons for Joy, for the 2025 season coming up later this week. And man, that is a guy who finds so much joy out of the game. And because of that, he started putting out those Baldies breakdowns and it's turned into a great thing. But all it is is just like, he's just loving watching ball and wanting to share it with someone. And I guess I never thought, because it's just these clips on Twitter and stuff, that kids are growing up and if they love ball that much too, they're watching Baldi's breakdowns.
1:00:41And he said it was a goal for him to get on a Baldi's breakdown. And then he did it as a rookie undrafted free agent. What are the odds of that, by the way? Like, that is so cool.
1:00:51Jourdan Rodrigue:Yeah, that makes me smile. There's been a couple of really earnest, such heartwarming moments from this preseason. And that's probably one of my favorites. Tyson Bayjit crying at the podium, talking about how his dad didn't have electricity or excuse me, running water growing up and how much this meant to his family. Like these things, I just they get me every time, Greg. I'm so soft. They just get me every time I just go. I've got like a tear in one eye. I can't even right now. Stay that way. OK, Jordan, that is our final nugget. Roughly 70 nuggets is where we landed. Give or take 100. Yes. Roughly 70 nuggets.
1:01:33And I don't know if this is a nugget or if this is just the most important thing everyone listening is going to hear today. The final three teams to release their players, to actually just tell the media and help the media do their job, were the New York Jets, the Los Angeles Chargers, and the Baltimore Ravens. And as case would have it, they actually all posted their cuts within 10 minutes of each other, right as we are wrapping up the show. And so you would think, Jordan, that that would take them off the list of shame. But it wouldn't because I can look at the timestamps and the Chargers. They got in at 740 Eastern time.
1:02:20They're off the list of shame. The Ravens, they got it at 747 Eastern. and I'll be generous and take them off the list of shame. The New York Jets, I like your team this year. I think you're going to be better than people think, but you were the last team to report all the cuts and you have to stay on the list of shame, at least for tonight.
1:02:43Jourdan Rodrigue:Whatever is wrong with you, I think needs to be extracted, bottled, and studied somewhere, frankly. This is just, this is Pete Gregg right here, to be honest with you. Well, I was, I, like, I'm looking at the timestamps. You're on timestamps? I'm starting to get excited. I was like, oh, 740. Oh, 747. Okay. It's over. Let's get out of here. Oh my gosh. We will be back, Jordan, on Wednesday. Really big show. We are going to do our awards predictions. We'll be back in the studio for that. So really excited. And we have a surprise that you don't know about, that Eric doesn't know about, that the listeners don't know about that I'm really excited.
1:03:25A surprise. That's it for roster cut down. 2025. Look, we're not. Two fullbacks are making a freaking team. Football is so back.
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Gregg Rosenthal and Jourdan Rodrigue get you caught up on all you need to know from roster cut down day in the NFL. Spencer Rattler was named the starting QB for the Saints (02:20), Trey Hendrickson go a revised contract from the Bengals (06:00), Jakobi Meyers wont get his trade request from the Raiders (09:59), Dillon Gabriel will be Joe Flacco's back up in Cleveland (17:45), an update on Micah Parsons (31:25), the Bears have their veteran quarterback (44:00), Matthew Stafford is trending in the right direction (47:40) and much more!
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