In short
NFL Daily recap and offseason preview. Topic: “Nine players helped and nine players hurt by the draft,” plus several league news items (Ravens front line, Broncos QB injury, Titans front-office churn, Browns QB competition, contract/option decisions).
Guests
Greg Rosenthal and Nick Shook (hosts).
Key claims
The Ravens’ veteran additions (notably Calais Campbell) and draft-heavy offense/line help Lamar Jackson and improve depth; Bo Nix’s second ankle surgery raises concern about timing/health; Titans’ repeated top-front-office changes signal instability; Browns may be “seed planting” Deshaun Watson as starter despite limited minicamp evidence; fifth-year option decisions reflect teams’ confidence (e.g., Quinton Johnston, Will McDonald yes; Miles Murphy and Jack Campbell no).
Notable examples
George Pickens helped by Cowboys not adding a long-term WR; Keon Coleman and Jakobi? (Jack Besh) helped by lack of competition; Tyler Shuck helped by Saints adding offensive pieces; Geno Smith helped by Jets adding receivers and protection; hurt list begins with Jayden Daniels (new OC David Blau) and continues with other young QBs/players.
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Chapters
Tap a time to open that second in VOCalais Campbell News and Discussion
2:58 to 4:36
Discussion on Calais Campbell's signing with Ravens and its implications.
“Welcome to NFL Daily, where we aim to be the Calais Campbell of podcasts.”
Draft Impact on Veterans
4:36 to 6:52
Analyzing veterans impacted positively or negatively by the draft.
“gives the Ravens a pretty strong front line.”
Bo Nix's Ankle Surgery Update
6:52 to 11:14
Discussion on Bo Nix's surgeries and implications for the Broncos.
“And I did want to talk Bo Nix, who got another ankle surgery.”
Tennessee Titans Organizational Changes
11:14 to 14:01
An overview of the Titans' recent structural changes and challenges.
“And that that speaks to a dysfunctional organization that can't decide what to do.”
Deshaun Watson's Future with the Browns
14:01 to 17:00
Explore the shifting narrative surrounding Deshaun Watson's potential return as a starter for the Browns.
“How much can you really draw from from these practices in shorts in April that he's suddenly first?”
Fifth-Year Options and Player Performance
17:01 to 19:44
Discussion about the fifth-year options picked up in the NFL and their implications for player careers.
“And I've seen this idea that like, well, Watson's more experienced.”
Analyzing Jack Campbell's Career Outlook
19:45 to 21:56
A deep dive into Jack Campbell's career and the decision not to pick up his fifth-year option.
“I think they want to run the offense more through McConkie.”
Offseason Updates Around the League
21:57 to 25:10
Latest offseason news including player signings, injuries, and changes in team management.
“I expected that to happen, but that hasn't happened.”
NFL Draft Recap: Players Helped and Hurt
29:49 to 36:46
Analyzing how the NFL draft impacted key players' careers.
“Back on NFL Daily, taping on a Thursday afternoon for Shook on the East Coast.”
Quarterback Developments Post-Draft
36:46 to 42:01
Discussing the implications of the draft on quarterback situations.
“not super duper firepower, but I think these guys can help them out this year.”
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Evaluating Tyler Shuck's Draft Support
42:01 to 43:20
Discussion on how the draft picks may positively affect Tyler Shuck's performance.
“I just think you look at what they did in the draft.”
Geno Smith's Rising Opportunity
43:20 to 46:00
Exploring the support Geno Smith received from the draft and team changes.
“I think focusing on helping out their young quarterback here.”
Jaden Daniels and Team Decisions
46:00 to 48:20
Analyzing how draft choices may impact Jaden Daniels and the team's strategy.
“I mentioned some young quarterbacks who maybe their teams could have done a little bit more.”
Concerns for J.K. Dobbins and Others
48:20 to 51:15
Discussing K.J. Dobbins' situation amid new draft additions and expectations.
“Also, Sean Payton, Will you please give Jaleel McLaughlin the ball just a little bit more?”
Jerry Judy's New Challenges
51:15 to 55:40
Reflection on Jerry Judy's prospects following the draft and new receiver additions.
“Give me the total number of offensive players.”
Matthew Stafford's Draft Impact
55:40 to 56:01
Examining how the addition of Ty Simpson affects Matthew Stafford's standing.
“person who cares about where Jacoby's at.”
Matthew Stafford's Reaction to Draft Choices
56:01 to 57:50
Explore how the draft decisions may impact Matthew Stafford's mindset and performance.
“Like, what do you think about him saying we're the better team?”
Transcript
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2:58Welcome to NFL Daily, where we aim to be the Calais Campbell of podcasts. I'm Greg Rosenthal, joined by Nick Shook, wrapping up the week, fresh off the major news that Calais Campbell, at 40 years old, is signing with the Ravens. and when I say I want to be like the Clayus Campbell, don't you just want to be like the guy that the ball knowers respect and just keeps on going and some great team wants to sign you? It doesn't matter. Just keep motoring on Clayus Campbell, getting it done. NFL Daily Guest, by the way, a year ago.
3:29Nick Shook:Yeah, yeah, big, big fan of Clayus Campbell. I think everybody's pretty much a big fan of Clayus Campbell, former Walter Payton man of the year, a mountain of a man. And to answer your question, I would love to still be able to play football as I approach my 40th birthday. That would be fantastic. I mean, I'm older than Clayus Campbell, so I'm saying more in podcast years. I would be older in this scenario. And you just keep getting these contracts on and on because you're producing at a high level. Sometimes it's better to be the Clayus Campbell maybe than the James Harden who you watched in person.
4:01Oh. You know, like the super-duper star, but there's a lot of pressure on that guy. It's good to just be the Clayus Campbell. Team player. Different sports. Very different. And look, big game James. He's made a lot of money over the years. We're going to hit some news. There's been a lot since we taped our look at all the teams in the AFC and NFC post-draft. And then for our segment today, we're going to talk about nine veterans who were helped by the draft. And then nine veterans who were hurt by the draft. Maybe a little competition. Maybe they didn't get weapons around them. So that's how we're going to wrap up the show.
4:35But yeah, Campbell was my first little item because it's the freshest as we're about to tape. gives the Ravens a pretty strong front line. I mean, this group looks a lot better with Matt Abuike, who we're at this point cautiously assuming is back, and Calais Campbell than they did without him. And then you have Roderick Washington's a big-time player. Travis Jones just got a big contract. And suddenly you feel good about that beef up front. Maybe that makes up for Trey Hendrickson's not, like, the best run defender, but you also draft Zion Young. Like, that's a bulky Ravens-looking group.
5:10Nick Shook:This is a group that I think in their best years thrived off of depth, having options, having guys that are specialized pass rushers, being able to rotate in and out, stay fresh, and maintain a consistent front. And they really lacked that last year. And that was a big part. We always talked about Matt Abike's injury, but it was more than just that. It was a lack of general depth and getting run right through. So they've done a good job of approaching this whole group this offseason by throwing a lot of resources at it. And I think Campbell is just a classic Raven signing. We've talked about this many times and they've done this many times over the years.
5:41Nick Shook:They go get the veteran that is going to try and chase the ring and hop on board. Except this is the second time he's doing it, coming back to do the same thing that he did from 2020 to 2022. So Kevin Clark had a great tweet that noted in Campbell's draft class, you have Matt Ryan, who's now running an NFL team. You have Kevin O 'Connell in that draft class, who's been the head coach of a team for a while. You also have a head coach that's already been fired from that draft class who was also the defensive rookie of the year. Can you name him? Shooky. Come on. 2008 defensive rookie of the year.
6:15Already fired as a coach. I would have to say Gerard Mayo. OK, yeah. Yeah. I don't remember him being defensive rookie of the year, but yeah. Am I crazy? Maybe I'm the one that's wrong. I mean, man, it does show you how long Campbell's been around. Darren McFadden, fourth in that draft. Vernon Golston, number seven. And Leotis McKelvin, number 11. So these are names that you just have not heard in a long time. I was right. He was defensive. He was. Back in 2008. Like I said, we're going to get to the big names later. Like Lamar Jackson is in our segment. A lot of the big time quarterbacks, Jordan Love, like we're going to get to all those names.
6:50But for now, we're hitting the news. And I did want to talk Bo Nix, who got another ankle surgery. What did you make of this coming out right around the time when they told us initially, Nick, that Bo Nix was going to be back on the field for OTAs.
7:05Nick Shook:Yeah, it's always concerning when guys undergo two operations and one offseason on an injury because it suggests that something didn't go right the first time. It just increases the odds that they're not going to get back either on time or at full strength and that the recovery is going to take longer, just no matter the injury. I'm not fully concerned as it relates to the Broncos and their projection this year just because it's not like he needs to get on the field and learn a new offense or get acclimated with a bunch of different guys. It's just that you worry about whether he's going to be able to take the field completely healthy and at the same level that he was at last year.
7:37Nick Shook:Because, I mean, let's face it, this is a quarterback who a lot of his game is about getting outside of the pocket and, you know, extending plays and finding open players. I mean, that's when he's at his best is out on the perimeter. That's what defined his rookie season under Sean Payton. So a little bit concerning, but it is also April 30th. So I get that, but now we have the context. Remember when they went back and forth, Bo Nix was unhappy that Sean Payton put it out there that he might have kind of a recurring ankle issue that had needed surgery for a long while. And then I saw in the article on ESPN.com about Bo Nix, like how he's had multiple ankle surgeries going back to high school.
8:15He had one after, and this was public, after his rookie season in the NFL, too. And then this back and forth with Sean Payton and the fact that they told us, hey, this is not going to be any big deal. He's going to be part of OTAs. He's ahead of schedule, literally at the owner's meeting. I hate when they said ahead of schedule and then he needs another surgery. And then, you know, I love Ian Rappaport, but he says, hey, this was not unexpected. Sometimes when you're getting an ankle surgery, this was this was unexpected.
8:44Nick Shook:What's the nature of the surgery? Because like, right, there's a cleanup, there's drainage and you can do that. Or there's like a legit, you know, repair that needs to be done. We need to know more about that. So if they think he's going to be ready for training camp, although Ian even said, if not the beginning of training camp, then soon thereafter. So I think it's a little concerning. Shout out to Ian Rappaport, who reports suggest is reaching his own new deal, but that's not been reported anywhere. Reporter has reports on his contract. I think front office sports had it, so we're going to credit them, not me.
9:17Since we last taped, the Titans have changed their organizational structure again. This is a yearly occurrence. Titans fans get really annoyed when you bring this up. But Titans football operations, the head of football operations, Chad Brinker, left the organization this week. And he had already been essentially demoted behind the GM, Mike Borgonzi, back in January. So that was the bigger change. But then he left. And it really is something. I'm going to go through the list. Are you ready for this? since December of 22. This is these are the changes at the very top of the Titans organization.
9:57That was the firing of John Robinson, right? Number one, John Robinson fired after a power struggle with Mike Vrabel. Number two, 13 months later, they fire Mike Vrabel after a power struggle with the general manager, Ran Carthon, who they had brought in soon after John Robinson got let go. At that point, they hired Brian Callahan as head coach, and they elevated our guy Chad Brinker to running the football operations. That's only two years and about three months ago. Then, what is it? One year after that, they fire Ran Carthon, the GM, after his own power struggle, apparently with the head coach and or Brinker.
10:42Brinker Callahan then is involved with helping to select the new general manager. A lot of say for Brian Callahan there. Brinker also involved. They bring in Mike Borgonzi. Only eight months after he had say in bringing in the general manager, they fire Brian Callahan. And then, as I mentioned, in January, three months after that, Borgonzi then gets put over Brinker. Four months after that, he's gone. And multiple things can be true. This can be a smart move and let Borgonzi run the show. And that that speaks to a dysfunctional organization that can't decide what to do.
11:20Nick Shook:Yes. Thank you. That's exactly what I want to say without sounding too harsh. I mean, to kind of bring some logic to it, Brinker coming in as an AGM to Carathon. So it's a guy of a past regime, right? Yes. Still there to make the decisions. Then you get the guy in place that you want. The reorganization, which puts Borgonzi above him, makes sense because that's the guy that you hired to really run the ship. It also makes sense that they part with Breaker, who was from a past group. But like you said, dysfunction. This is a team that since the end of the Vrabel and Robinson era, which was really the end of the Vrabel era, given that Robinson was fired before Vrabel.
11:53Nick Shook:They have known nothing but change. I mean, it's come down to even their uniforms. They made a massive uniform change. And then five years later, they're like, we don't like these. We're going to go back to the Oilers colors now. Like there's no consistency in this franchise. And you hoped that last year's draft with Cam Ward, it really like kind of set the tone and put them on a new track. But then they fired their coach in the season. They're rolling with, you know, interim coach the rest of the way. So they're still trying to figure out how to get on one track. And maybe, just maybe, this is the final step in that direction.
12:24And to be clear, I get why this particular move happened. But the reality is this guy only was elevated two years ago. He was involved in helping to hire Borgonzi only a year plus ago. and now he loses his job to Borgonzi. And I had Titans fans coming at me being like, this wasn't a power struggle. He just wanted to get back to the football side of it all and all that. It was like, well, you think he wanted to give up full football control to the guy that he hired? You think that's what he was looking for was to get demoted and then have to leave? This is not what he wanted. They decided Borgonzi was the guy.
12:59And I think that makes sense based on everything we know compared to Chad Brinker. But it still is a franchise that since 2021 with Vrabel, when they lost in the divisional round, they won 12 games that year. Then they won seven. Then they won six. Then they won three. Then they won three. So you don't get the benefit of the doubt until proven otherwise. But I do think this current group, Borgonzi and Robert Sala, and the people that they've added, the pieces, good things could be happening. Who knows? We might even get a Super Bowl in Nashville, some people are wondering, with that new stadium.
13:32Let's go to Cleveland. where they're a little earlier, like, in the rebuilding, I guess, than Tennessee because they don't really have the franchise quarterback. Or do they? Mary Kay Cabot reports that Deshaun Watson is the favorite to start because he looked better at voluntary veterans minicamp before the guys even showed up. This was a wild report to come out on April 29th. What did you think? I'm sorry. I just love the or do they.
14:00Nick Shook:That was so good. look anybody who is surprised by this hasn't been paying attention to or reading between the lines of what's been happening with the Browns which if you haven't been totally understand they're not atop the list of franchises that you need to track in 2026 in the NFL but it really started I think I noticed a shift toward the Browns opening the door for Watson to make his way back in the lineup when Jimmy Haslam changed his tone you know this is the same person the owner of the Browns who said that the Watson deal was a huge swing and a miss a year prior and he kind of like pivoted in that way to well like it was a swing and a miss but it doesn't have to be a swing and a miss i can't remember exactly what the quote was but it was like i'm gonna try and you know uh do a little maybe damage control and say hey maybe we can still find something here and they have to at least explore it because they paid him all this money they've gotten nothing from him they've tacked on void years with every restructure and they have one year left in the existing deal and they have no better option and if he's healthy then you at least give him a go so it felt like from the moment that they started to change their tone publicly i think this was at the owner's meetings or even before that yeah that they were going to give this an opportunity for it to come out now is hilarious because this is just seed planting that's all this is and at all you think there's information coming from the organization maybe even the head coach or the front office who knows who it is yes for for mary k to put that out because because i i look i love mary k but this is got to be fed from the team because there's nothing that you would gain at this point in the offseason that suggests that he is that far ahead of them.
15:27It's also the voluntary minicamp. We've seen these sort of things. I know the media might be watching. How much can you really draw from from these practices in shorts in April that he's suddenly first? It seems it seems insane. And I was laughing about it with a friend who shall not be named. Like she put this out initially and it wasn't really getting much traction. And then she quote tweeted it and said, related to my breaking news earlier, because it didn't really seem like breaking news, my breaking news earlier that Watson has taken the first step. I think the Browns should go ahead and just declare that he's the starter going into, you know, once they're like going into the offseason.
16:11And then that started getting more news, the use of the word breaking news and more attention. And that speaks to what you're saying of like, man, this seems like a little planted. that, hey, we're not getting enough traction on this prep in the pump for Deshaun Watson as the starter news. Let's push that a little harder.
16:26Nick Shook:And it involves a lightning rod in Shador Sanders because he's on that depth chart. And that's always going to drive Internet traffic and discourse. Right. So I honestly think it's smart for the Browns to potentially declare that stance at this point in the offseason just so that they can avoid the countless questions of who's leading in the quarterback competition today. Is it going to work out? No, probably not. But I think for them, it's probably smartest for them to organize their depth chart publicly now. So I just thought they would give up on the Deshaun Watson thing. And I was wrong. I did not think last year that he would have a realistic chance to play again because he's been so bad.
17:06And I've seen this idea that like, well, Watson's more experienced. Munkin wants to work with him. Like, OK, maybe if he's healthier and all this stuff, you could make this case he has more experience. But Ben Solak then reminded me in a tweet from ESPN that there have been 907 seasons of at least 200 passing attempts this century. Deshaun Watson, the last time we saw it, had the 902nd of 907 seasons in yards per drop back. One of the worst five seasons in yards per drop back that we've seen. That's how bad he was. Since that's happened, he's repaired his torn Achilles twice. it's like yep this is why it's not gonna work but this is where they are why is it you is he better what it sorry um more more from this space soon hopefully not too soon uh aziz al-shair the texans got a three-year contract reported as a 54 million dollar extension but that's on top of the year that was already there no guaranteed money reported i like aziz al-shair i have a feeling this contract won't look as good when you see the actual money, but he probably got some guaranteed money over the next year or two.
18:18But when the reporters don't mention the guaranteed money, that means it's usually not that good for them. Let's talk very quickly about the fifth-year options that have been picked up around the league. Will McDonald, the edge rusher for the Jets, gets it picked up. $13.7 million for Will McDonald because he was at the end of the first round, so it's not quite as much. Interesting because he's more of a third, fourth rusher. That locks him in. That one was, I think, up in the air. Quinton Johnston gets it for$17 million. That's in 2027. So what this does, it locks him in for two more years. Thoughts about Quinton Johnston.
18:50Little show of support there from the Chargers.
18:53Nick Shook:Yeah. You know, after his rookie year, if you would have asked me, is he going to get his fifth year option picked up? I would have said absolutely not because he was just a disaster as a rookie. But he's really recovered in the last couple of years. He's got two straight seasons of 700 plus yards, eight touchdown catches in each of his last two seasons. 91 targets, 84 targets. He's a focal part of this offense, 55 catches, 51 catches over his last two years. Consistency. It makes sense now. And especially as with this group, you have him, you have Ladd McConkie, you have Trey Harris. You kind of think, okay, well, maybe this is your three.
19:20Nick Shook:This is how you're going to proceed. This seems like he's the leading member of this group. And yes, they want to be a run first team, but you obviously need to secure your receiver. So I think he's earned this fifth year option. And perhaps we see his first thousand yard season if they can actually protect Justin Herbert this year. Yeah. I don't know if it would have been impacted by this or the draft itself. The plan was impacted by planning to pick this up, but yeah, they didn't get a weapon early in the draft. I think that makes it easier to make this decision. I think they want to run the offense more through McConkie.
19:49$17 million though is a lot. And he provides like a very specific role and he has gotten a little better each year. Christian Gonzalez was a no brainer. Fifth year option picked up. Same thing with Jameer Gibbs. Both of those gentlemen will be looking for long-term contracts before they even get to that fifth-year option. And then a couple of no's. Miles Murphy, the first-round pick of the Bengals from three years ago, got a no. The edge numbers, like, for Miles Murphy, who was late in the round, wasn't that huge, but he's been pretty disappointing, even though he showed some signs of life late last year.
20:20So that was an interesting call from them. And then Jack Campbell, the linebacker of the Lions, got a no. What did you make of Jack Campbell not getting his option picked up?
20:30Nick Shook:um i wasn't entirely surprised because like he when you watch him he's all right he's okay he's not a jack gamble fan he's not a guy that you want to lock yourself into paying that fifth year option money at linebacker he's a guy that you want to extend at a lower rate over a couple of years if you think you're still part of his plan that's it because the linebacker group gets mixed in with the edges like there are linebacker edges so his number it was kind of what happened um who am i forgetting had a very similar circumstance where he gets to the market um it was linderbaum is who i'm thinking about because the centers get mixed in with the tackles and the ravens did not want to give linderbaum like a 28 million dollar one-year contract thinking well the center market's not even close to that in the end he got that money not from the ravens They just didn't think that the Raiders were going to pay the tax in that range.
21:27It's sort of the same idea where Jack Campbell, that sets like an average floor where he's suddenly the highest paid off-ball linebacker in the league or close to it. So they did quickly say, hey, we want to be in the Jack Campbell business long term. But, you know, his yearly average is going to be lower than that. They didn't say that part, but that's what they're going to want. So I think he's gotten better every year, and I think they're happy with Jack Campbell. that's a tough position where he is really a better player now than he was as a rookie all right it's time for the offseason ride-along presented by Toyota some odds and ends around the league Caden Proctor the Dolphins number 12 overall pick they announced he's going to play left guard I just thought that was interesting the Giants agreed to terms with one of your favorite players former Brown Shelby Harris and I want that known I want that known we haven't heard about Jawan Jennings signing yet with the Vikings.
22:22I expected that to happen, but that hasn't happened. But yes, I want that known. Shelby Harris with them. Darius Slayton, their receiver, who has a pretty good contract there. It's getting a little crowded in their receiver group. He had a core muscle surgery, which is a real deal surgery announced. So he might be questionable for the start of trading camp. The Vikings have started their GM search. I thought that was interesting. And their current guy, Rob Brzezinski, is one of the candidates for it. Kind of a cap guy who's been there a long time but they're going to look outside the building too and then just some retirement news happy trails to justin simmons he really stands out to me what i mean uh shook as a west guy one of chris wessling our great friends absolute favorites really saw something in him as like just a hunt and chase playmaking safety pretty early in his career he ends up making four second team all pros and so a great career out of uh the bronco you know he had some time there with the falcons but really think about him as a bronco he retired as a bronco and yeah one of west's absolute favorites and a great call by him very early on in his career because a fun player
23:33Nick Shook:to watch over the years yeah very fun player to watch one of my favorite players to watch kind of makes me think of like that group of safeties i don't know if i would call it a generation but the age group of safeties that also included like Jesse Bates. You know, somebody that was just a really fun guy to watch who at his peak was one of the best safeties in the NFL, a ball Hawk, you know, career interceptions total 32 over nine seasons. That's very good for a safety. And, and somebody that put together quite a career, happy trails on retirement. Wish I could have seen you play football last year.
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24:03Nick Shook:He did not play football last year. So unfortunately sometimes the league retires you. And I think that was one of these cases. Yeah, it's tough when you're that physical player. I think of his physicality to a great combination of playmaking and physicality. Like it just goes quickly. And these guys give up their bodies for the sport and it happens quickly. But an awesome player. And I don't think he's a Hall of Famer. I'm not going to make a case for him to be a Hall of Famer. No. At all. And I hate starting with the negative. What I wanted to just point out, though, is four second team All-Pros, which I think that's just about the best honor you can have is be part of the All-Pro team.
24:38that is a better all pro resume than uh a handful maybe even more than a handful of people that have made the hall of fame justin simmons is not that level of player but that just shows you i think he's better than than people realize over his career now i gotta try to remember who was the
24:51Nick Shook:first team all pro during those teams um i mean i'm gonna look at it right now since we have the power of the internet at our disposal oh kevin kevin byard kevin byard in there yeah mink is in the mix at that time. I think Jordan Poyer. Yeah. Derwin. Yeah. Yeah. It's a strong group. It's a strong group. And that was the off season ride along presented by Toyota. Because when people are the destination, your ride is important. Learn more at toyota.com and find the vehicle that fits your people. I want to take a little break, but I am really excited. After the break, we are going to hit nine players.
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30:01congratulations to Makai Lemon 11.5 million dollar signing bonus that's how you know the salary cap is going way up these rookie deals are actually finally back to what they were like before the CBA ruined the rookie deals for the rookies they actually are like the number they literally I think this is the year that now like the number one overall pick makes more significantly than Matthew Stafford did back in 2011 before I'm thinking about like the Sam Bradford
30:29Nick Shook:negotiations like yeah I actually I looked that up recently because I was trying to trace when exactly that changed for a piece over the last couple of months. And I got into the details and I was like, those are astronomical numbers for guys. We used to live like that. Crazy, because if you think about those players I just talked about back for like the 08 draft, like Vernon Golston getting taken sixth overall. Brady Quinn was immediately in the top, you know, 15 edge rushers. It was was very risky. Now, the money's higher now, but inflation, how they fit in with the rest of the structure is not the same, obviously.
31:06Let's do the segment. Let's talk. And I've made a list. Nine players who were helped by the draft, nine players hurt by the draft. And we're going to count down from nine to one. And you let me know what you think. Give some context. Did I have a player too high or too low? Maybe less about that and just what you think about this player. I've got number nine, guys helped by the draft. George Pickens. He just signed his franchise tag. So this is a way of sneaking some news into the segment. See what I did there? I just think if the draft fell a little differently, like if they had taken Makai Lemon, like I thought, or Jordan Tyson, if Jordan Tyson had fallen to them instead of Caleb Downs, I just think there's like a world where they draft him.
31:52I really thought that. Instead now, Flournoy is your number three receiver. And maybe this tag conversation is different. Either way, the Cowboys have said they're not giving him a long-term deal. So you know who needs to have great stats this season? George frickin' Pickens. Like, he does not need that target share to get messed up. And without them adding anything, it's pretty much him and CD just dominating. And he's going to need a big year. Because, like, if you think about who made himself more money based on what he would have gotten on the open market in 2025 versus 2026, George Pickens might be number one on the list.
32:27yeah but he can't he can't fall back to doing like 800 yards and having up and down season he needs to get all those targets so I thought he was kind of indirectly helped by the draft and I think that
32:36Nick Shook:he probably will just because the basis of their offense first off it's one of my favorite one-two punches at receiver in the NFL and nothing about this offense has really changed you still have Dak Prescott you still have you know your head coach in Brian Schottenheimer and you you know what you're gonna get right so it's just an idea of going out and replicating it now last year some of these big games that he had were fueled by the fact that cd lamb you know was on the field and then others were the fact that he wasn't on the field and yet he still found a way to produce um i thought this was an interesting situation going into the draft in which if they had selected somebody that they would then be positioned perfectly well maybe not perfectly because they have less leverage but to trade him it felt like this is a franchise tag that could end up possibly and that would have been good for him i guess so that goes against my point that i think he i think he was going to be helped regardless actually okay i think he's in a good spot I'm with you.
33:25And yeah, he had 1 ,400 yards last year. I'm not saying he has to do that, but I just think he has to be happy, healthy, productive because of how up and down his career has been. There is a world where this doesn't go perfectly well. I think it has a chance to go better. Staying at receiver, number seven and eight, these were just two young players, Keon Coleman and Jack Besh. Keon Coleman with the Bills, Jack Besh with the Raiders, two second round picks who did not do much last year. Coleman in his second year, Besh, you know, in his first. Bills say they're, you know, they were not interested.
33:58People called about Keon Coleman. We're not interested. They drafted Skyler Bell, but I think he's going to be more on the inside. The Raiders are just rolling with Jalen Naylor and Trey Tucker. There's not much there. So these are two guys who are, frankly, trying to make a career in the NFL. There's no one on the outside for Coleman either. And so I just thought, okay, their teams are going to give them another chance here to be the guys that they drafted him to be.
34:20Nick Shook:Yeah, you know, I really wanted the Bills to draft a receiver. in this first round. They were in a tough spot given where their pick was and the way that the draft unfolded, there was really nobody worth it at that spot. So it made sense why they traded back three times and ultimately out of the first round entirely. I know that they went and got D.J. Moore in the offseason and they believe that that's going to make them a better group. But I just fear that we're going to end up in the same situation we were in with them last year, which is we get to the playoffs and you're talking about Brandon Cooks being your best player and you wish that you had, you know, Tyrell Shavers or, you know, Gabe Davis and his brief return before he was off the field again.
34:54Nick Shook:So it does help Keon Coleman, but above all, it's about Keon taking advantage of the opportunity in front of him, which he hasn't done over the first two seasons. And I am very tired of the posturing from the Bills front office that we believe in Keon. Well, let's listen to it. No, we're not taking your draft picks. Eric Roberts, of course, he's tracking the Bills sound. Let's listen. This was actually before the draft. Because I believe in who Keon Coleman is. I believe in the people that we have in the building. And look, Keon, I've never questioned Keon's work ethic. I've never questioned his athleticism, right?
35:31And I think when we surround ourselves with the people, when he surrounds himself with the people that he needs down here, you know, in this building, that it's all going to come together. And I have no doubt in Keon Coleman.
35:41Nick Shook:Okay. Okay. Yeah, I mean, Brandon Bean says basically the same stuff. He said it like twice now. I think he said it this week after the draft. Yeah. Yeah, it's that was Joe Brady. Every once in a while, it gets to the point where you say it so often that I have a hard time believing you because you're trying too hard to convince me. Just just be a role player. Yeah, make it happen. Almost 20 yards per catch as a rookie. He had 556 yards as a rookie. That's not nothing as a 21 year old. He's only 23 now. So they both have a chance. I mean, I have my doubts, but it was a good weekend for them. Lamar Jackson alluded to it earlier.
36:15I believe he had a good weekend in general because you take Wenga Ioane in the first round you take two receivers in the third and fourth Jacoby Lane from USC Elijah Surratt in the fourth they had eight picks in the first five rounds total Shook six of those were on offense they got some linemen they got some tight ends four of the first five were on offense and so in general I know these aren't super duper stars but you want to help out that offensive line. I just thought the Ravens are prioritizing offense, not super duper firepower, but I think these guys can help them out this year.
36:53Nick Shook:I agree. Yanni was my favorite, honestly, offensive lineman in this draft, just because I think he's going to be a people mover and a, and a monster at guard. And so when he went landed with the Ravens, I was like, that's the perfect fit, but the perfect fit for me, I was hoping for in day two was Jacoby lane to the Ravens. And then they landed on it in the third round. And I'm on record saying that, by the way, not here, but elsewhere. And so when it actually dropped, he's got some haters, Jacoby lane of this. I don't care. I don't care. I'm going to trust my eyes and I think I'm going to like his fit in that offense.
37:21Nick Shook:So yeah, I think that it's a, it was a big win for Lamar. It was a big win. I think in the, through the first seven picks for the Ravens, like all the way down to one 73, Josh Cuevas, the tight end from Alabama. I just liked the way that they approach this. I love Surratt, the kid from Indiana. I think they're both going to fit in nicely in this offense. They're a lot deeper on that side of the ball now. So big, big victory of a weekend for the Ravens and for Lamar Jackson. And you do get a sense with the new head coach that Lamar, you know, he showed up when they started lifting weights right away.
37:50Professionalism. Like they're working on an extension. We actually have Eric DaCosta. This is from WBAL talking about Lamar. As we've said, Lamar is his own agent. It's a personal relationship that we have with Lamar. and I think it's important that we probably keep those kind of discussions in-house for the best of the team, for the best of the negotiations. But I am confident that Lamar will be here. I'm excited about it. I think he loves the team. He loves the city. He loves our fan base. And when I think of the Ravens, I think of Lamar Jackson being on the field. It's tricky to negotiate directly with the player, the confidence and the positivity and saying that Lamar is going to be there in the offseason.
38:35It all speaks to me like they aren't too far away from working something out there on an extension, which will help their cap situation. Let's go to two more receivers. Receivers, it's the easiest thing to just like, there's only so many targets to go around. And I thought two receivers that are entering their contract year. So I'm already starting to look at the 2027 free agents. And Rasheed Rice and Josh Downs are two interesting names on that. Josh Downs with the Colts, Rasheed Rice, similar situations in that their teams didn't bring in guys to compete with them for snaps and then, or targets.
39:10And you think about Downs, I know Tyler Warren is there, but Josh Downs was their leading receiver in 24. And that was with Alec Pierce there. That was with Michael Pittman there. Pierce is coming off an injury. Pittman's gone. Westbrook Akine is their number three. So I just think, you know, it's a, it's a nice spot for, for downs to maybe produce. And then with Rasheed Rice, we learned the league is not going to punish him for his latest infraction. He's had the suspension. And you just think about who it's just the same guys. They're catching passes. It's Xavier worthy. It's Kelsey. If I had to pick someone to be the volume receiver, do you, do you disagree that Rasheed Rice is the most likely option?
39:51Nick Shook:No, I don't disagree at all. It's it's, he's clearly the most likely option unless Xavier worthy can suddenly become like a vacuum for targets, which I don't think he is. He's got to do it though. Like Rice is more of an idea than like when I looked at his production in the NFL. Wow. It's really when he was healthy before he got hurt. He was still proving to be or at least trending toward being that guy. It's funny, though, because I agree with both these points, but it's hilarious that you can be helped by the draft just by your team not bringing in competition for you. Like, I don't really like the Colts receiver situation with Westbrook Akine as the number three.
40:20Nick Shook:No offense to him or anything. You do have Tyler Warren, like you said. So it kind of, you know, pads it out a little bit. but it's just hilarious how it's like, well, these guys, they won because they didn't get any new competition. Yeah. I'm, I'm thinking about like pickings and downs and rice specifically to like this. These are big years in their career. I got a contract. When, when downs is healthy and right, I don't think people realize what any, an incredible receiver he is. I saw some guys compared to him in the draft and they're like, like a plus Josh downs, but it's guys getting taken in the third.
40:50I'm like, Josh downs, you know, hold your tongue. His ceiling is very high. I love me some Josh Downs. Number three on my list, again, it's a guy who benefited from not anyone going near him. Jordan Rodrigue, our friend, said that the Jaguars were interested in potentially trading up for Jadarian Price specifically. The Seahawks take him in the first round. And that leaves Basial Tootin as the dude in Jacksonville. So this is kind of a fantasy take. But with Chris Rodriguez as the next guy, Basial Tootin, it's Tootin time in Jacksonville.
41:22Nick Shook:yeah it's uh suddenly very important to work basial tootin as we covered on a previous show yeah it's uh i don't really like this running back room but you know what if he can be your if he can be your traditional bell cow then by all means go for it i'm just not super confident in it i think he is really explosive and i don't know what it's going to look like but he fits the profile possibly for me that just has like one incredible season where he gets taken in the fourth round of fantasy drafts and maybe never repeats that again but ends up with And gets overdrafted for the next three years.
41:53Yeah, gets 1 ,800 yards from scrimmage because the situation is great and the offense is great. So I'm high on him. My last two picks are quarterbacks. It's Tyler Shuck and Geno Smith. Let's start with Shuck first. I just think you look at what they did in the draft. You give them another guy in Jordan Dyson. You give them Oscar Delp in the third round as a tight end. You got a guard there in the fourth round. They just needed some multiplicity in terms of their offense in general. And I think they did a nice job kind of helping out that room with Tyler Shook.
42:31Nick Shook:I think it was very clear where they felt they needed to direct their resources with their first four picks, three being on the offensive side of the ball. So yeah, totally agree with Shook, you know, getting helped by this. Now, we hope, big question mark, but the Saints have had an issue with keeping their top receivers on the field. Obviously, Chris Olave has had a hard time staying on the field. Tyson has an injury history. You hope that they're both in the field. If they're both in the field for the majority of the season, then yes, Tyler Shuck definitely got helped by this draft, but that still remains to be seen.
43:00And like a special teams guy, Barry and Brown in the sixth round, but who knows? But then Bryce Lance was one of my favorite kind of fourth round receivers. Some, some upside there. Maybe I was subconsciously throwing the whole off season in the mix here. Cause you bring in David Edwards at guard, you bring in ETN. I just think they've done a good job. We'll get to some teams that maybe haven't. I think focusing on helping out their young quarterback here. And then Geno Smith, the ultimate young quarterback that you want to build around with the New York Jets. I know it's a tough situation. Frank Reich, does he still have it?
43:34Well, we'll see. But suddenly you're in a situation after adding Omar Cooper Jr. and Kenyon Sadiq. that like, look, A.D. Mitchell might be receiver like option number five behind Bryce, Brees Hall rather and Garrett Wilson, of course, there too. That's like a pretty good group for Gina to throw to.
43:56Nick Shook:It's funny because when you, I'm not a fan of draft grades. Okay. Good offensive line too. Good tackles. Like it could be something. But when you like look at the consensus opinion or the generally almost consensus opinion on this draft, the Jets land near the top for like everybody giving out A grades. And I'm like, okay, I'm not being a hater because you got David Bailey, you like Sadiq. I don't know if I necessarily agree with the overall grade, but I like the idea of Geno having more guys to throw to. Why not? What problem do you have? Bailey, taking him over Reese was the only part I didn't really love.
44:30Nick Shook:Yeah, but that was a given that was going to happen. I just think that because they had three first round picks to end up getting back into the first round to take Cooper, that that kind of inflates the grade overall. Yeah. And D 'Angelo Pons, our little guy. I love the Pons pick, too. I'm not hating on the class itself. I'm just thinking, like, the grade might be a little high, but good for Gino. More people to throw to. Protect him now, please. I just remembered, the reason I put him number one overall is the news that Russell Wilson was meeting with the Jets to possibly be Gino's backup. Oh, you are so spiteful, so petty.
45:02No, no, no, no. The reason I put Gino one was the reporting immediately was, The organization talked to Geno Smith early in the offseason about what backups he would like behind him. They're asking, Geno Smith has like personnel control on the Jets. That's how much they believe in him. I was like, why is this news getting out there? And he mentioned his great relationship with Russell Wilson from when they were together in Seattle. And so we got Geno Smith picking his own backups.
45:35Nick Shook:Geno picking a backup who used to be a backup too. Even my current MVP, Matthew Stafford, he's not getting that kind of respect. Gino Smith getting all the respect. Tongue in cheek. I don't know if Gino really has the final say there, but it's hilarious to me that they asked Gino about that. Desperation. I think that coming out was like, hey, Gino is our starter. Don't worry, Gino will be the starter. But still, it's kind of funny. All right, nine guys hurt by the draft. I mentioned some young quarterbacks who maybe their teams could have done a little bit more. I'm going to start with Jaden Daniels at number nine.
46:10All these other ones where the entire focus is doing right by them. And we got a first-time offensive coordinator in David Blau. I'm hoping for the best, but that's a question. You didn't get Jeremiah Love with the number seven overall pick. You didn't get Cardinal Tate. You added Antonio Williams from Clemson in the third round. Another slot receiver. Didn't really work. lays mid-round slottish receivers with Luke McCaffrey or Jalen Lane so far. And so we're hitting year three for Jaden Daniels. And who is our wide receiver two exactly? Shook?
46:46Nick Shook:I mean, I guess you want to say it's definitely not Traylon Burke, so I kind of like the upside there. Deami Brown, maybe he's number two. I mean, he's not listed in the top three right now. It might be Antonio Williams, their rookie third-round pick. They also didn't have a lot of picks, though. You're right. They didn't help him out a lot, but they had a first-rounder. they spent a third and a fifth and two sixths and a seventh. Like you're not going to get a big haul out of that. I guess they kind of did the best with what they had. I guess, but maybe it's more of just a statement of the whole offseason.
47:10You get Chico Conquo and you get Rashid White. Defense was their problem. I'm just like year three and we're rolling with Jalen Lane or Antonio Williams as wide receiver too. It's not great. Good week for Bill, by the way. Krosky Merritt. No one coming in to compete with him and Rashad White because I don't think Rashad White can hold on to that job all by himself. So number eight, J.K. Dobbins, the running back for the Broncos. You drafted Jonah Coleman from Washington in the fourth round. You know, Dobbins, I like Dobbins, but he was kind of a fallback playing in free agency. They were trying to get Kenneth Walker, ETN, and they bring back Dobbins, and then you draft maybe his immediate replacement there in the fourth round.
47:51That's a lot of expectations for a fourth round pick, but Jonah Coleman will be in the mix.
47:54Nick Shook:I believe in a world in which J.K. Dobbins never suffers multiple injuries, and he's one of the better backs in the NFL. And I believe in that world as an alternate universe, just because you see it in glimpses, it's just never carried throughout an entire season. And I would love it if he's, because when they had him in the backfield last year, they were a very good running team. And then they lost him and it was suddenly the RJ Harvey show. And it just wasn't as good as it was before. No offense to RJ Harvey. So yeah, it's a tough one with this offense and with Dobbins. But you need competition.
48:26Nick Shook:Also, Sean Payton, Will you please give Jaleel McLaughlin the ball just a little bit more? Because he just doesn't play long stretches, and I think he can still help you out. Yeah, he got kind of boxed out by RJ. He might get boxed out again. Yeah, and Jonah Coleman, I think, is a good player. Between those two, they should be fine, but they're not going to be big playmakers. Number seven, I just put Hollywood Brown here. Remember when the Eagles signed Hollywood Brown, and he was like, it was just Devontae Smith, Hollywood Brown, and a bunch of tumbleweeds? Now, since then, they've brought in Dontavian Wicks, and they brought in Makai Lemon and they brought in Eli Stowers and Dallas Goddard's back.
49:02And so justice for Hollywood Brown, who's probably like, man, I thought I could have been wide receiver two. I'm like wide receiver four or five now. Let's talk Malik Willis. I know they added a Caden Proctor offensive line in the first round, but he's more of like a run blocking guy. And they had a couple of third round receivers. I like taking a chance on Chris Bell from Louisville coming off a torn ACL. Might not be an immediate help. Caleb Douglas was a weird, surprising third round pick. the reality is we're getting to the end of the offseason and if i had to guess who their wide receiver one is wide receiver one i'd probably go jalen tolbert former cowboy oh my god that is a
49:42Nick Shook:oh oh two twos on that team don't forget about two two but yeah uh this this is a weird draft for a first draft for john eric sullivan with the dolphins uh i think they overdrafted a couple of pass catchers in Douglas and Wilkak Merrick for the tight end from Ohio State. Oh, good blocker. Kaz Merrick was kind of at the end of that run. Ollie had him as his favorite blocker in the class. Yeah, but I mean, you must really be building around those pillars. You must really be building around giving A-chan 300 carries in a season. I know. It's tough. It's a little less about the draft and more about the whole offseason that it's just going to be tough out there for Malik Willis.
50:19How about your guy, Jerry Judy, watching the two receivers, Denzel Boston come in, Casey Concepcion come in, my underdog for Offensive Rookie of the Year. And then right after the draft, Andrew Barry called Jerry Judy his bell cow wide receiver. You buying that?
50:35Nick Shook:No, I'm not buying that at all. Jerry Judy needs a fire lit under him. He had his moments, for sure. We think about that Denver game a couple of years ago, him and Jameis. But the consistency is not there. both in terms of production and hands, and he needs some competition. So he gets hurt by this because now he's actually got to go earn, you know, his target share. But I think ultimately it could help him out in the long run. Just had an idea of a good off-season show, maybe a camp show. Players most likely to get traded in the neck, you know, before the deadline. It could either be in camp or the deadline.
51:11GMs who lied to us. GMs who lied to us. Jerry Judy's on that list. All right, I have pop quiz for you. This is unfair. Give me the total number of offensive players. This includes offensive linemen, any position, not including undrafted free agents, added by the Green Bay Packers organization in the entire offseason, offensive players added. Now, we can think of some ones that are gone, of course. Romeo Dobbs is gone. Dontavian Wicks is gone. But total offensive players, every position, running back, tight end, fullback, guard, tackle, all of them center. How many offensive players added this offseason?
51:54Four. Two. They added two players this offseason. Sky Moore, who you might not even count as a receiver. I was counting. He's more of a returner. Yeah. And then a fifth round pick by the name of Micah Morris, a guard that I'm not overly familiar with. Those are the two offensive players added to the entire roster this offseason. So I say Jordan Love has been hurt. just out of general kind of malaise on the offensive side.
52:20Nick Shook:Yeah, I felt like there was maybe an addition by subtraction with getting rid of Wicks, at least if you read through the lines. I guess Rasheed Walker's another guy they lost. Yeah, and Elton Jenkins also left, although he's been hurt a lot. Yeah, a lot of departures now that you think about it. They need kind of a reset of sorts within this team just offensively, and I think they're trying to do that, but it doesn't help when you don't add a lot of talent in the offseason. And adding is not always a sign that you're going to be better. But when you don't, it can be concerning. Yeah, I have a little bit of a tongue in cheek here.
52:54Like, you're right. Continuity is great. And I get draft develop. It's a young team. But I think you help your margin for error with better depth if you add more veterans along with the process or invest a little earlier in the draft. I wouldn't be surprised if the Packers are a team that adds some veterans. And so this is a bit of an incomplete grade. But, you know, they really haven't given him anything new. Number two and three on my list, I put Tyler Algier and Jacoby Brissett together because, to me, these are familiar stories. Algier's like just signed two years,$12.5 million. He's like, oh, we're doing this again?
53:33I'm with – I thought I was going to get to be kind of the guy or have a nice resume builder for my next contract. And here I am with like the best freaking running back to enter the league since the last running back I shared the backfield with.
53:47Nick Shook:Yeah, I mean, he's like a magnet for, oh, you have Algier on your roster. Go get the best running back in the class. Who's like you said, the best since the last one. But I would just like to point out those haters who said they signed Tyler Algier. They're not going to draft Jeremiah. Love you were wrong. And now, unfortunately, Algier. I mean, Algier's never been a lead guy anyway. way. He's always been a change of pace, hard running, running back that you throw in there. He would have been the lead guy in a committee here. The thing where people really got confused to me was like, well, you know, they have James Conner and Trey Benson.
54:21They, they made James Conner take a big pay cut that they probably would have cut him. He's had serious injuries. I mean, he's been a great player, but he might not be on the roster at the start of the year. Neither, neither may Trey Sermon. And then Jacoby Brissetti threw in here too, because, he wants more money at quarterback and they don't even draft Ty Simpson. I mean, they draft Carson Beck. You're that desperate for a young quarterback who kind of like in a perfect world would be like a Jacoby Brissett type of player. And it was a little under the radar with the 24 Patriots that for all like the leadership they supposedly wanted out of Jacoby and okay, he's going to mentor and Drake May will learn from him.
55:00The reports from the people who cover that team was actually jacoby was kind of pissed that like he lost the job to drake may it wasn't like maybe the greatest like he thought he had a real chance to be the guy before the drafted may and just all went sideways and now he's maybe in a similar ish situation yeah and if you want to
55:18Nick Shook:talk about i don't know if i would say dysfunction but a mishandling of the situation or at least a way to upset jacoby is by drafting carson beck and then like speaking out loud publicly like well we'll see how much he can handle because that's what monty austin ford said we'll see how much he can handle. We're not eliminating him from the competition that could happen. So yeah, this is a weird situation with them. Justice for Jacoby. I know I'm probably the only person who cares about where Jacoby's at. Number one on the list was easy. It was Matthew Stafford. I don't know if you saw the LeBron quote after the Lakers lost game five to the Rockets.
55:54And they asked him about some comments about who's the better, one of the Rockets. I forget who it was, Jabari Smith, I think. said, we're the better team. They asked him about that quote. Like, what do you think about him saying we're the better team? He's like, I'm too old for this. Like, I don't care about stuff like that. I bring that all up to say, Matthew Stafford, I think when he got that call from Sean McVay that they're bringing in Ty Simpson, I think he thought, I'm too old for this. I'm the MVP. I got to deal with this. I don't want to deal with it if I'm Matthew Stafford.
56:28Nick Shook:Yeah, and I understand it from his perspective, and also any competitor is going to be upset when you bring in, you know, you're hopefully what they think is his long-term replacement. I see both sides of this where it's like, yeah, you have the whole, you know, Rogers, you know, draft and love thing where it's like, Hey, why didn't we go get a weapon? I only have so many years left and you're using that to plan for the future without me. What the hell? I just want MVP. But I also see it from the Rams perspective. But if we're talking strictly as guys who got hurt by the draft, Stafford's ego probably got hurt a little bit by the draft.
57:00Nick Shook:A little bit. Just annoying. Just something. I just would find that annoying. We got to be so laser focused on going to win that chip that we probably should have had last year. It was a coin flip. But, man, that one stung. And instead of giving me Makai Lemon, we're counting on Devontae Adams staying healthy the whole year. We're counting on Puka. Obviously, keep his head on straight. Because if not, we could have used another receiver. I don't buy that argument of like, well, you know, you really think a rookie receiver is going to make the difference between winning the Super Bowl? Yeah, maybe.
57:38A lot of rookie receivers have contributed a lot. And I think the Rams showed you what they felt about Adams when they were kind of dangling him in a trade. Like, just saying. Annoying if I'm Matthew Stafford. Not annoying to do a show here with Nick Shook. Look, it's been a great week. It feels like the week that started with the draft basically hasn't ended. So we are going to take a nice little three-day weekend here on NFL Daily. Let's hit that music and get out of here. And we will be back on Monday. It's been fun. Hope everyone can catch up. Thank you to Shook. And good luck to your Cavaliers this weekend.
58:19We're going to be back on Monday, by the way. Seth Payne back on the show by popular demand. And going over some early overs and unders, we will see you then.
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Gregg Rosenthal and Nick Shook give you nine players who were helped and nine player who were hurt by the way Draft weekend played out. First, a check in on the news from around the NFL including Calais Campbell signing a one-year deal with the Ravens, an update on Bo Nix's ankle injury, the Titans making a change in their front office, Deshaun Watson's future with the Browns and more! After the break, find out if the Draft hurt or helped Matthew Stafford, George Pickens, Lamar Jackson, Jayden Daniels, Tyler Shough and other players around the NFL.
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