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25:21Nick Shook:And he's in there. He gets away with being a little grabby there. That's an incompletion because he held down Travis Kelsey's arm, but he's there to make the play. He's there to make a difference on offense. That one catch that you described, the athletic catch, I think it's between two defenders, made me say out loud, oh, nice. There's Travis Hunter. There's the guy that I expected to make a difference on this football team. And if you see the play, if you're watching on YouTube, you can see Trevor Lawrence is playing out of structure and in chaos And Hunter essentially bails him out, which, by the way, he did a lot with Shador Sanders at Colorado as well.

25:50Nick Shook:I mean, look at him. He's leaping up over Shamari Connor. Brian Cook's trying to come in and upend him. He grabs the ball. He gets flipped almost all the way over and hangs on to it for a huge gain. That is the type of play that this kid is capable of making. And I wonder, as we go deeper into the season, they're not super thin at receiver. Like, De 'Ami Brown's going to play a part. Parker Washington somehow finds a way to make plays, even though he's a small receiver. He catches a touchdown pass tonight. They have options. But if they're really going to maximize their potential, Travis Hunter has to be a key part of it in the passing game, which will only be more beneficial to Trevor Lawrence and maybe get him more on track and less chaotic.

26:25Nick Shook:So I'm really looking forward to see where he goes. And I think tonight was a great first step toward that potential outcome. I absolutely agree. And I think it's only going to get better as he gets a little more confident. And you saw him playing with the joy tonight. I think he fires that team up with any play that he made. huge smile like going nuts ends up I believe with 35 snaps on offense and 24 on your 25 snaps in the end on defense so a clean 60 snaps I mean that's a lot but it's nothing crazy I mean Jalen Carter is out there playing 60 snaps a defensive tackle you know the other day like that that 60 snaps is a normal NFL workload it's just yeah you have to figure out how to play multiple positions in in one game.

27:13It's crazy. It's great. And yeah, the Jags who led the NFL in turnovers, takeaways, forced coming into the day, even before playing this week, five game, get that big pick six. Don't forget about Devin Lloyd. This has been a big play defense and they are four and one. I love it. When a good plan comes together, stamping the Jaguars as the messy, fun team of NFL daily. the team who just are enjoying watching this journey last week, and then they come through like this. Good on you, Jaguars.

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32:26They're essentially considering a change. In the past, I've said that means the change is coming. For Harbaugh, I was a little less specific about quarterback. It was more about everything. They do have Tyler Huntley on their roster and could start him in week five against the Rams for Cooper Rush, potentially. And then Zach Taylor, this one caught my eye a little more. wasn't totally committing to Jake Browning as the quarterback. Brett Rippon is the other active quarterback on the roster. So you would assume that would be the choice, although they also have Mike White and Sean Clifford on their practice squad.

33:03Man, who would have thought the AFC South would be better than the AFC North this season? But I think we can call it. I mean, maybe there'll be a comeback, but they're pretty far ahead right now, the AFC South.

33:15Nick Shook:No, no, I feel pretty confident saying that the AFC South is better than the North because the South has all their quarterbacks. They've played better football overall. Look, the Cincinnati situation is dire. Like they start 2-0, which is great. Hooray, woo, we started 2-0. You lost Joe Burrow. You've lost three straight since then, and you've looked completely non-competitive in every single game that you've played since you lost Joe Burrow. Like, like even the Lions game, this final score looks respectable, but a lot of those points were scored when they were already trailing 28 to three and the Lions kept pouring it on.

33:46Nick Shook:Like this is, this has been an abysmal offense over the last three weeks. Jake Browning, I understand like he's dealing with a lot. He's got an offensive line that's leaky. They have no running game. They just throw it up down the sideline 50, 50 to Jamar Chase and Tee Higgins and hope for the best. And yes, he's made some poor decisions. He's thrown a lot of passes into traffic. He's, he's produced some, some turnovers, but I don't see a better option. Like Brett Rippin is going to help. Mike White, Mike White, the same Mike White who once inspired Jets fans for, I don't know, a few weeks before, you know, he fell back to earth.

34:16Nick Shook:Like there's no option here. And this is life in the NFL. If you lose a franchise quarterback and you've spent most of your money at the positions that take advantage of that franchise quarterback, you end up in a dark place. Baltimore, like when they signed Cooper Rush, I was like, that doesn't make any sense. He doesn't fit their offense. Snoop Hudley has always worked there because he kind of fits what they like to do offensively, even as they've evolved. and maybe you thought Todd Munkin could make it work. Yes. I think that's a no-brainer for me. Interesting. After throwing three picks and a blowout loss, I would absolutely go back to Snoop.

34:43Okay. Right. So I watched that game on my flight home. Shout out to DAZN. I know it's a little divisive over in the UK. That's their version of Game Pass. I got to say, I mean, I don't know if I'm going to get in trouble. It's better. It's better than our domestic version. You can download the games, first of all. That's the number one thing. But you can have the multi-screens while you're watching with the four screens. The quality was really good. I was using it the last couple weeks. So I'm a fan of the product, but it helped me watch what I thought was an underrated Cooper Rush performance.

35:21This is the tiniest molehill of a take I'll ever say. They had the ball twice, and the score was already 17-3. He really didn't make that many mistakes. I know he ended up with three interceptions. They weren't really on him and a couple of them just like late and unimportant. He was just there. Like no one, like Lamar Jackson was not winning that game. It obviously would have been more competitive. But their defense being the biggest tire fire in the entire NFL on either side of the ball is the story. Because it was ridiculous how they just got absolutely hammered on the defensive side of the ball.

35:57And their running game absolutely stinks too. And their offensive line's not particularly good either. So I'm willing to give Cooper Rush like a little bit of a pass here. Jake Browning, I'm not going to give a pass to. So I kind of think based on Zach Taylor's comments, if I had to guess that we're getting Brett Rippon, which is weird. It doesn't seem like a good idea. It doesn't seem like a good idea.

36:19Nick Shook:Yeah, but when you have no other options left, anything's a good idea. Because what else are you going to do? I mean, Jake was slinging it back in 2023. He was slinging it a couple of years ago. by the fourth quarter of that game, he was helping out Jamar Chase and T. Higgins' fantasy owners. Chase also made a really nice play in his touchdown graph. He did, but that was a good throw too. I mean, one thing about Jake Brown, he'll give you a chance. The Bengals have a very difficult game against the Packers this week. So they're probably falling to two and four. And it's crazy to think that the Ravens, it doesn't matter who starts at quarterback.

36:55They just need to get to their bye. And it'll probably be one and five and hope that Lamar Jackson can save them on the other side. I noticed a report, I'm going to throw this one by you, from the Philly Voice that A.J. Brown and Saquon Barkley and Jalen Hurts had a private conversation, the three of them today, all had a really good talk that lasted hours where they put everything on the table and they help to straighten out whatever's going on there. Does that count as a players-only meeting if it's only three players?

37:37Nick Shook:It feels like a Matthew Stafford, Cooper Cup breakfast, like pancakes and coffee type of meeting. Did they have a copy of that self-help book that A.J. Brown was leaning on? Were they quoting it during the meeting? That's what I want to know. Look, I'm tired of this repetitive narrative when they just don't find success offensively. Saquon has not gotten going this year. They had to resort to the pass. It helped them come back and beat the Rams. Oh, everything's fixed. Oh, wait. No, it's not. You won another game. A.J. Brown's mad because he only caught two of his, like, nine targets. It's every week with this team.

38:09Nick Shook:I understand you finally lost the game, but my God, you're still one of the best teams in the NFL. But something's going on. You know, when Brandon Graham let the cat out of the bag late last season, that there was something going on in the personal relationship between A.J. Brown and Jalen Hurts, And it's been backed up and confirmed and kind of talked about by other people that, yeah, you know, they used to be really close. And sometimes life happens and things are like there's there is something strange there. There's been kind of hints maybe like the offense is really built around Jalen Hurts's strengths.

38:46And maybe those strengths don't match up exactly with what A.J. Brown wants to do. Who really knows? What are you going to do?

38:53Nick Shook:What are you going to pull a John Robinson and trade A.J. Brown and get crucified because of it? Right. I think it's productive that they're trying to get it squared away. It's just funny to me. And that was from Jimmy Kemski, our old friend at the Philly Voice, that they're talking for three hours. I just love this team who had a few listeners to the PHLY show, which I was listening to on my way out of the airport today, asking whether there was any chance Sirianni could be fired like if this season goes sideways. They just lost their first game in like a calendar year that Jalen Hurts actually started and finished.

39:34Nick Shook:Look, I love Philly. When I was an intern at Films way back in the day and lived in South Jersey, I developed a love for the city and that fan base is passionate, but for the love of God, guys, get a hobby. You lost one game. Let it rot. Let it play out. Let's see how they respond to it. I think they'll respond well. It is now time for Who Delivered presented by Uber Eats. And you know who delivered one of the most improbable wins I've ever seen in my life on Sunday? It was the Tennessee Titans. And you know who delivered an apology on Monday, not just to the fans, but to his players? It was Jonathan Gannon, their head coach.

40:20Let's listen. Yeah, I actually, I woke up this morning and didn't feel great about it, honestly. And so in the team meeting, I addressed it. I apologized to Omari, apologized to the team. and I just told them I kind of let the moment of what happened get the better of me there. Obviously, like I try to be emotionally stable and calm because my job is to solve problems during a game and kind of lead the charge on that. So it's not really who I am, who I want to be, and I told the guys that today. on one hand appreciate the accountability there by Jonathan Gannon he is referring to an interaction that we didn't know about until it was posted on social media from a different camera angle shook where he got in Amari Di Mercado's face after dropping the ball you know before scoring that touchdown and then on his way out like kind of looked like he pushed him and got a little physical.

41:26Nick Shook:Yeah, I think this is a product. First off, I do want to tip my captain for delivering a sincere apology. I felt that was very honest in what he said there. The accountability is great, right? But I think this is the product of a coach who entered year three with feeling some pressure, feeling like you have to deliver this year, and they get off to the 2-0 start. They lose a tough one in San Francisco. Totally fine. You lose again the following week to Seattle, another close one but wasn't really as close to the final score indicated i mean they got there this one is inexcusable this one is an absolute dark stain on his resume as as a head coach um because of the collapse and the way that it happened and unfortunately the collapse started with the marie di mercado dropping the football right before the goal line like he scored such time there they go up 20 to 6 that game's over they're not tennessee is not coming back they lack the firepower to come back he left the door open by making that mental mistake and in the heat of the moment, Gannon lost his composure.

42:21Nick Shook:I think it's a simple product of the pressure and the heat of the moment and just letting your emotions get the best of you. So it's good that he took some accountability for it, but my god, they need a win in the worst way right now and they're playing the Colts and Packers next and I think he understands it's not going to get any easier. This is one they had to have. I wish I remember who it was on Twitter, an ex-player that just pointed out these are the kind of moments that can lose a locker room a little bit you know you see a coach act like that and disrespect your player players will take any sort of tough coaching if they feel like it's fair and it's trying to help them but putting your hands on someone on the way out I think that's going to rub people the wrong way I think he realized that Maybe someone had to tell him that or not, but he realized that's a line that you don't want to cross and is problematic for Gannon.

43:26So he's really facing the toughest time for him as an NFL head coach so far. That was Who Delivered presented by Uber Eats. When football makes you hungry, get game day deals at Uber Eats, the official on-demand delivery partner of the NFL. Order now. Wrapping up the show here on a great Monday night for the messiest fun team in the NFL, the Jacksonville Jaguars. Just with a few other injury notes, just wanted to let everyone know, starting guard for the Broncos, Ben Powers, who's been part of their best offensive line, maybe the best offensive line in the league, going to injured reserve. Colts kicker Spencer Schrader is out for the season.

44:06They lost him during that win over the Raiders on Sunday, So they're going to have to figure out their kicker situation. Tarion Arnold, this is a big one. The starting cornerback for the Lions is going to be out, quote, a while. And if you remember, something we didn't talk about on the show, but last week they put DJ Reed, who's really their number one corner on injured reserve. So they're going to be without their top two corners for a while. That's bad news for a team that's trying to win the Super Bowl. And by the way, as Patrick Mahomes and hot Chiefs defense next week, bad news for them.

44:41And then we'll wrap with Amarian Hampton. Shook going to injured reserve. Not sure if you got eyes on the Chargers game yet. I know you cranked through all the games on Monday for your quarterback index, but tell me what you saw out of them and what you think, you know, the challenges they're going to face without Amarian Hampton for at least the next four weeks.

45:05Nick Shook:yeah I got two left it's been a banner day um so I'm watching this game back and there's a period I think in the third or fourth quarter where Hassan Haskins is suddenly getting run and and it's like a pretty pivotal moment where the Chargers are trying to generate something offensively they hadn't done anything since taking that early lead and I'm like why are they leading on Haskins here why are they not going to Hampton oh it's because he's hurt uh it's a major downgrade they already lost Najee Harris uh to the Achilles injury for the year you knew that was bad but you're like we have hampton they'll be okay well without both of them i am now officially concerned for their running game they have hassan haskins and they have kimani vidal uh left in that backfield and you can be a huge fan of vidal as much as you want but those two are not they're not hampton they're not harris uh it's just going to lead to a more unbalanced attack it's going to take me back to the charges of a couple years ago when they lost you know a bunch of their offensive linemen and herbert got hurt because he was under constant duress he was kind of under constant duress in this game and that's against the commanders team with a defense that hasn't necessarily been all that great this season and they got shut down and so it does make me very concerned for their outlook offensively if they can't balance out this offense Herbert's great and I think that he'll still try his best to lead them to victories and produce you know yards and points and everything else but it just it does concern me that they're going to be a very pass heavy team now uh and it's going to hold them back a bit yeah one of one of our friends in the comments, John Byrne, says that he didn't expect the Chargers to have to go to Vidal, Vidal Sassoon.

46:37A little bit of a stretch. Pretty good. Hey, that's a good shampoo joke, but I wouldn't get it. I know. Ending with, ending with a dad joke here. Late on Monday night, we're about one minute away actually from Tuesday morning for you, Shooky. And yes, It's about 5 a.m. for me where my body clock is. And so I really appreciate everyone who told us they enjoyed the show as well. I was overseas and Ollie Connolly wanted to give a special thanks and tell everyone to check out his read optional sub stack. I didn't mention that on the show last night. And both him and Will Gavin, we heard from people, really enjoyed their analysis.

47:23So we we love that people can be flexible. You know, they love the favorites. In fact, I was getting a drink with Ollie one night, and he said, I want to meet this Nick Shook. I want to give that man a hug. He was just like a big Shook fan. So the love is flowing over international waters, Shooky.

47:44Nick Shook:Yeah, I mean, hey, I'd love to get on a plane and get out there. I don't know if I'm a big fan, but I'm not going to play. Next year, that is my goal. Well, I'm sending coded messages to our iHeart family. I did want to thank iHeart, by the way, too. just instrumental in everything we do and the trip we had and really important to all of us. All right. We will be back on Tuesday. It is a massive show. We have been waiting all season long. Yes, it is the return of Quarterback Island on Tuesday. Colleen Wolfe, Steve Weiss, myself and Jordan Roderick will decide what 12 quarterbacks are going to stay on the island, who's getting booted off.

48:25and maybe we have room for a couple new quarterbacks. I got some ideas, Shooki. We will see you all on Tuesday.

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