All Vibes All-Stars

21:43Jourdan Rodrigue:Tick one of my vibes, guys. Well, I mean. That's all right. It's a little weird to be possessive about the vibes, guys. It's our group. I'm competing. That means we're. I'm a bad vibe. I'm sorry. We're all sharing him. Bringing you back in. Good vibes. First year, not an easy thing to do. You step into the booth. He's a pleasant hang on a Sunday. He's a good analyst, and I think he's going to get even better. And I do love the transformation that he's had as a public figure because he kind of had a reputation as a bad vibes guy. He did. Early in his career. I remember our great friend that the studio is named after, Chris Wesseling, spending many a podcast rant talking about those bad vibes and kind of the look at me.

22:28And now you see this. He's a family man. And he just, he enjoys the game. And his love of the game, I think, comes through. That's what I want out of my announcers. And he's just a good hang.

22:39Jourdan Rodrigue:Yeah, I love. So a lot of times on Sundays in the newsroom, Colleen, I'll spend a lot of that time muttering to myself next to Greg about what I'm watching. Sounds great. Yeah. I'm just like putting in my earbuds. It's very stressful for Greg. So he puts in his ear, his ear pods. Jordan, I'm doing the same thing just by myself in my living room. muttering to myself. And this past weekend, I was muttering positive things about JJ Watt because I was really impressed. Now, I don't know that I would have put him on this team when he was a player, for example, but I'm really appreciating JJ Watt, the broadcaster.

23:16Jourdan Rodrigue:I'm a Greg Olson truther for life here, so don't get it twisted, but I wanted to join in and give him some pop with you. And I think - It's like, you know, pop stars. There can be more than one. We don't have to pit these two men against each other. But that is what fans of pop stars definitely do. That's what I'm saying. That's what fans of pop stars do. You don't compare flowers. They all are beautiful together. Be the change. They all bloom and shine. You want to see in the world. I just think it's cool. He's come so far. He started out really funny, self-deprecating, talking about his new broadcasting hair and all this stuff on the broadcast.

23:48Jourdan Rodrigue:Smart. And then he goes into really good explanatory chops as the season continues. This game against the Jags and the Colts, he had one of my favorite moments all season from a broadcaster where he, Riley Leonard came in and JJ Watt very quickly and efficiently explained how the hand signals across the line of scrimmage were helping Riley Leonard understand which direction the play needed to flip and how crucial that was to getting Riley Leonard like centered in the game and understanding what he needs to do. And it was all hand signals that he was pointing out, which I thought was so cool. And it's those little things that I think just bring these broadcasts, give them a little bit extra.

24:25Jourdan Rodrigue:And I think J.J. Watt's doing that. He has layers. Good vibes. I think his transformation, I think, started in Arizona. He started to become a good vibes player and guy at the end of his career. I think just truly at the heart of it, he's always just been a little bit of a ham. And now that he's in front of the camera permanently, like as the job, he doesn't have to try and get in front of the camera. He can just let the other stuff happen. So I think actually he's just found where he needs to be. and it's like that communication and the fact that he's developing as a broadcaster and connecting with people.

24:57I think that truly is maybe his journey in life and where he... I think he's also...

25:01Jourdan Rodrigue:That is beautifully said, Colleen. Amazing. Wow. I've been doing a lot of work. Get her on the all-star team. I know she's putting herself in JJ Watt's shoes. I see what's going on there. Exactly. What was your therapist's name? Which one? No. Suzanne. Suzanne. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, we're with Andrea now. Oh, Andrea. Yeah, good work, Andrea. Yeah, truly. Good work, Colleen. He also was like a 25-year-old that went from like a walk-on to maybe the greatest defensive player of all time. And that's a lot to take in in like five years. So you can see like the maturity now. That's what I mean. He's all grown up.

25:37But he loves his job, which I think is a great lesson for everyone out there. Which is like if you exude a love for your job, people will like you. That's true. That's true. But I also can imagine it was difficult growing up in that household too. Oh, yeah. brothers that are equally as talented and just the competitions that would go on as well. So I could see why he was the way he was too.

26:00Jourdan Rodrigue:Yeah. Okay. We're going to have a coach here. Okay. Why don't you go? Yeah. I think we needed a little more, uh, concerning chaotic energy entering, uh, the all-star vibes room. Um, I don't, this guy kind of freaks me out. I don't know much about him as a person. I don't really want to know anymore about him as a person, respectfully, because I'm worried about what I might discover. But, I present to you Scott Matlock, everybody. Oh. The most... I mean, yeah. Let's just leave it there. This is a guy... This is an audio medium. Okay, so... Scott Matlock, the Chargers... The Chargers fullback slash defensive lineman slash tight end slash enforcer in a variety of phases, including on special teams, uh, is a man of significant stature.

26:53Jourdan Rodrigue:He's about 300 pounds. And so he also is standing here with two, with a double arm sleeve, wrist tape, gloves, elbow tape, uh, is it head tape, uh, wrapped around a mane of red hair and a massive red beard and eye black. That's a sort of, um, like Gothic style dripping down his face. You know who he sort of looks like is the guy that sings Scornful Woman and Rich Men of North of Richmond. No, nobody here. I'm just saying, I don't again, I don't need I don't need to know anything else. I just know he needs to be in the all vibes room because that's dudes a vibe. He looks like a vibe. That team was a vibe on Monday night.

27:40They sure were, Greg, a real vibe. We were talking in the section going into overtime. And I was like, I have no idea, like, which team, you know, the Chargers are just hanging on by their life. But even going into overtime, we were talking about, doesn't it just feel like actually this is the season, the Chargers are just going to find some crazy way to win this, and the Eagles will find some crazy way to lose it. Yeah.

28:03Jourdan Rodrigue:I mean, it seemed like it was that difficult for them to find it. I love Greg's, I call it his kind, stern voice. He goes, this is an audio medium. we just need to unpack it a little bit. Just like a long silence. I was getting uncomfortable. I'm going to, I'm going to pick a coach for this. Let's listen to a little locker room speech from Dave Canales, because you know, when they first hired Dave Canales had our doubts, but if, if you were going to make the case for Dave Canales, here's what it was. It was like, well, he's going to build up his quarterback and just make them feel like a million bucks, help them improve.

28:42Okay. That's happening. Jack, it might not all make sense, but like his mentor, Pete Carroll, before him, maybe a little bit like a Mike Tomlin team, that the sum will somehow be greater than its parts, even if the numbers and the schematic advantage isn't totally there. And Dave Canales, if you look at this Panthers team, that's what's happening.

29:08He's giving Ben Johnson on Black Friday. He's in a mosh pit. Hey, this is your team! I tried to mess it up for you a couple times. But you wouldn't let it happen. We love a humble leader, too. And we love the intensity.

29:24Jourdan Rodrigue:Colleen and I got the same exact brief moment. This is an audio medium, so I'll describe it. Where the eyes bulged. We got it. And I love it because, okay, here's what I love. And you guys should check out a later, an upcoming episode of NFL Daily, where we actually talked to Brant Tillis, who is the EVP of football operations in Carolina, describing they've got this really cool dynamic, Dave Canales being very much a part of that. Dan Morgan is like, again, ex-player, all ball, like knows, is scouting and really like fundamental and like really like, you know, getting in the weeds on team building and everything.

30:03Jourdan Rodrigue:And Brant is a little bit more of the like high concept looking at the entire organization mathematically and analytically be very honest about what is luck and what is real. And Dave Canales is like radical positivity. Truly. And it is like together, it all works. And it's crazy to watch. And not to mention, they have one of the most elite mascots in the entire league in Sir Purr. But watching the Titans, which is something I haven't done a whole lot of this year, but I have watched them. And just watching Cam Ward shed Grant Delpit like he was some type of unnecessary outerwear that he could just take off, shake him off.

30:45It was unbelievable. I don't know how he was not sacked. I don't know how he didn't get taken down to the ground, but that was an awesome play by Cam Ward for the Titans, who, when I think about the Titans and the Panthers, they sort of remind me of each other. Like the Panthers are sort of a year sort of ahead, maybe of where the Titans are, and maybe the Titans are going to be the next Panthers. So I'm hoping that whoever the next head coach is. Yeah. Just like Bryce Young had that bad first year as the number one pick. He needs the positivity rabbit. He needs. Oh, well, maybe not the rabbit.

31:20Maybe just the coach. He needs something different than Brian Callahan and Mike McCoy. Kind of the opposite.

31:26Jourdan Rodrigue:We could put Cam Ward on the vibes all-stars. Remember earlier when he, his famous quote earlier, and he's that shakeoff was amazing. Maybe we could put him on the all-star. I would like that. I actually like the fact in a way that his teammates jokingly kind of got on him after the win over the Browns for being a little like upset. Like he didn't think he played that well and he wasn't that happy at the podium. And his teammates are, you know, in the media and saying on the team playing, like they actually kind of gave him grief. Like, don't listen to Cam Ward. Like, enjoy this win. It's hard to win in the NFL.

31:58But I like I like that Cam Ward's got the tiger. Yeah. All right. let's take a quick break on the other side. We will talk a little news and we'll talk a little TNF. The vibes. They're strong. They're fantastic.

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37:35Plus taxes and fees. Same day delivery for most internet eligible customers. See if it's an option during checkout. Fastest according to Ookla Speedtest based on Speedtest intelligence data second half 2025. All rights reserved. I've been a lot of teams. And this is definitely, I don't, maybe the best. Best feeling. Just a wonderful, wonderful feeling of winning and thrill of victory. It's certainly in the discussion. I put it in the discussion, the birth of my seven children, my marriage. You know, in the conversation. In the conversation. Just joyful.

38:18I'm so happy for the Chargers And I'm so happy for Jim Harbaugh Good, you get to have this win And you get to have your seven children And your marriage It's my favorite type of humor Because he is joking He is funnier He's leaning into his own bit But he also means it too And he also believes it In every fiber of his being in the moment It's the same way that like when I finish a book that I really love, like I do believe in that moment. I think that might be the best book I've ever read or a movie or a movie. Like when you see a movie, it's like that might be my favorite movie of all time. You just you just you're swept up because that's the one that just happened.

38:57Or a podcast. I have a real problem finishing books because I don't like endings of things. So I always leave the last few pages. I can't do it. That's psychotic behavior. I know. That's bad vibes. Are we we're not done with Andrea about that one.

39:10Jourdan Rodrigue:Yeah, we're not done with the all vibes. That is kind of like a leaving doors open. Like, I leave all cabinets open at all time. What? Yeah. Okay. That's crazy. Or like a tiny bit of food left. And it's kind of like you're just leaving for the possibility of more. I don't know. Emeka deserves every medal and award that there is. You leave cabinets open at all times? I mean, not on purpose. Do you leave lights on, too? No, not a light. Greg says, no, I just clicked them 17 times before I leave the room. Oh my God. Cabinets open. Wait, I got it. Harbaugh and I probably share that. There's healthy levels of undiagnosed spectrum.

39:50You know, it's great.

39:51Jourdan Rodrigue:Wait, I've got it. I've got it. Can you imagine living with me? Can you imagine living with me? Yes. Colleen, the vibes aren't done. We're going to wrap up the vibes and then, yeah, then we'll get to the news. Okay. Well, we have assembled quite the team here. just to just to recap we have if I can even read my writing here we have for the viewers Mike McDaniel okay was he officially on okay we'll let him yeah right that was the first one yeah we won him on oh yeah Denver's offensive line Bo Nix it's fourth quarter we have Kobe Turner yeah Teddy Bridgewater as the backup listener yeah JJ Watt in the booth I have MJD and Mooch written down in parentheses just to throw in.

40:39And then our guy from the Chargers who looks like Oliver Anthony. Got Matlock. You had some Jack Jones erasure. Mike McDaniel came in and had a star moment there. I would

40:50Jourdan Rodrigue:add Maria Taylor who is a legend and an icon and also Maria Taylor's specifically her Instagram posts where she's getting Mike Florio and Chris Sims and Jason Garrett to dance. And I gotta say Mike Florio is really improving. Wow. Really. He really is. I'm watching the tape. I'm watching the tape. Wow. She's on to something. I was actually really surprised at some of the moves in that studio. And you know what I love? He gives it everything. He commits. I love it. They all do. Like that group so much more because they are all buying in and they're yes anding. Nobody is too cool for it and they are leaning all of the way in.

41:33Jourdan Rodrigue:And of course she is the fearless leader of that group so I feel like maybe they wouldn't commit as much if she weren't like steering them. So shout out to Maria Taylor because that's a side of her. That's a side of all three of those men that I never thought I'd see. As his former employee. Yes, I have not seen that side. I know I need to get on this story. Oh, yeah, you are going to love this. You have such an afternoon ahead of you. Yeah. Opening cabinets. Okay. Watching Mike Florio. Exactly. What else is there in life? Finally, I would like to throw in that this team should be wearing the throwback unis that we all love that bring good vibes in general when we see them.

42:10The Kelly Greens, which it's tough for me to even talk about the Kelly Greens right now, but I'm going to throw them in there just because I do have an undying love for the Kelly Green uniform. It reminds me of Randall Cunningham. It reminds me of early Eagles. So that's where I go with that. I also love specifically the creamsicles. I just think that they're gorgeous. The colorway is incredible. The logo, all of it. So we're into that. also Pat Patriot. That's a fantastic one. I can't get enough of it. This was maybe when the Patriots played the Giants and I just felt like this was one of the most classic uniform matchups of all time with the Patriots wearing their Pat Patriot one.

42:53And then finally the last one. Oh, Orange Crush. Denver's Orange Crush. I think that they are maybe four of the most beautiful throwback uniforms in the entire league.

43:02Jourdan Rodrigue:Yeah. And I loved that Bucks Seahawks game because both of them, it was a throwback. It was beautiful. That was like, first of all, that was one of the games of the year. And second of all, that was a visually stunning game. Seahawks might be my favorite one. Seahawks is so good. You know what's funny is, though? Everyone hated those Patriots uniforms when it was happening. Everyone loves the helmet, but those specific red ones at the time were not popular. Everyone wanted to get rid of them, but I agree. It is more about the logo and the helmet, but I do like them all. I love that you added a little bit of A little bit of flair And I hate to do this But we actually have some breaking news What?

43:40Jalen Hurts just committed another turnover Okay, I'm leaving Boo You're getting cold You're getting cold for Christmas Bad vibes, I ruined the whole segment This keeps getting worse every day Eric looked all panicked With breaking news The way I collapsed in my living room, screaming, watching the end of that game. I can't believe the neighbors didn't check on me. That's maybe more concerning than anything else from last night. But yeah. And there was a police chase near me last night. So that was... It's all happening in the South Bay. It's also happening in Indianapolis. So let's do the Philip Rivers news.

44:25We talked about it on Monday night. So we don't need to go too in-depth. But there were a couple key updates on Tuesday. Number one, he is signing. They did the tryout. He apparently threw the ball well. It's all happening. He is signing to the practice squad. Past is physical? This is all? Apparently. Okay. I mean, I think we know he's a physical being. You know, he's getting his exercise in over the years.

44:51Jourdan Rodrigue:Go on. Yeah, I mean, stay in limber and nimble, you know? I'm just saying. It's all the kids. They keep them young. It is all the kids. I also saw a report which kind of slipped under the radar. It was initially from Schefter. And just now reading between the lines, and I know that Shane Steichen says he wants to see how everything looks on Wednesday with Riley Leonard. There is a report from ESPN that says Riley Leonard is week to week. And that indicates to me there is a greater chance of Philip Rivers starting this week. And that's why there was such a panic and such an excitement to get him in.

45:31Like right now, it's not to mentor his buddy, Riley Leonard. It's to go to Seattle and try to beat that defense this freaking Sunday. What a way to walk back into the league. I am drafting that game as my game in the afternoon. There are much better games actually in the afternoon, but I am watching Phillip Rivers' return if that is happening. That's not official yet, but that looks like where it's going. I did find it interesting that the news came down yesterday on his 44th birthday and the night that the Eagles were playing the Chargers with Nick Sirianni, who just so happened to be his offensive coordinator, Phillip Rivers, in his last season with the Colts.

46:08So there was like a little bit of everything was kind of working out and aligning in the universe.

46:13Jourdan Rodrigue:J.J. Watt, our vibes analyst of the day, also put out, I love when Greg Olson does this too, you know I'm still I'm not gonna I'm not comparing flowers okay I'm just saying it's like Beyonce and Rihanna are great yes and you can appreciate them both okay it's totally fine okay I've okay I'm okay I'm fine but he put out a great little note today and I love when analysts do this where they share with their list like learning and broadcast meetings ahead of the broadcast and Philip Rivers' son apparently ran basically a version, a high school version of the Colts offense of Shane Steichen's scheme with his son and would be on the phone with Shane Steichen all the time talking about how different concepts were installed so that Philip Rivers could install them for his son's team.

47:05Jourdan Rodrigue:And then, what, did they just win the state championship or something? And there's a lot of connections, too, with Rivers. This is where my attention span comes out. in already. But I'm just saying it's hilarious to me because it's like, oh yeah, I mean, I can do that. I'll come back in and like the audacity of this man. Nobody else. I mean, he wasn't moving well at 30. Nobody but Philip Rivers could be this audacious and I love it. I don't know. Joe Flacco's kind of got a little bit of it, but not to that level. He has a dusting of Philip Rivers' audacity. It'd be a sprinkle. It'd be like if Joe Flacco went away for three or four, five years though, Rivers never moved well, so maybe that would be his argument is like, maybe I'm not losing that much, but I do think you have to have some sort of baseline.

47:48The fact that it's against the Seahawks is crazy. But yeah, you look like at who he's represented by and Shane Steichen and Riley Leonard, who, by the way, he mentored and kind of he coaches up quarterbacks in the draft process. One of them was Riley Leonard. So it could be something where Rivers is there starting for a week or two and then they give it back to his buddy, Riley Leonard.

48:07Jourdan Rodrigue:Either way, Riley Leonard played well. I mean, I said this on our recap show. He played pretty well. And if he's healthy, I could see them actually, you know, I wouldn't say making a playoff run, but looking respectable down the stretch with Riley Leonard. But you've got to get him to that point. It's a band-aid. This is Uncle Rico-style band-aid. Rivers is coming in. He's throwing it over them mountains, baby. He's not coming out of the lineup. You are not taking Phillip Rivers. My guy is going to get it done. 49ers, that's the week. Dead gummit. This week will be tough. Monday night football, not much of a pass rush.

48:42Phillip Rivers versus the 49ers. He doesn't need to win the Super Bowl, Quab. Our producer talked about, like, this could be the greatest story in the history of the NFL if he takes them to win the Super Bowl. You know, let's be real. Let's have just one game, one night, and that would be against the 49ers. Win one game, and the aftermath of that game would feel like a Super Bowl. Polo ties are coming back. It's not just Mike McDaniel. Mike McDaniel called it. Yeah. He foresaw. Oh, my God. The seer. Quickly, I wanted to mention something that came out late last week before we wrap up news, which is just that Kyler Murray is not going to return to the Cardinals.

49:21Jourdan Rodrigue:No. This season. Stop it. I know. You're kidding me. Whoever could have seen this coming. We did predict this. We did talk about this. Still, I did want to get out in front of it that he seems very unlikely to ever play for the Cardinals again. a very weird end to his career there where he literally was practicing for multiple weeks before they put him on ice. And it's very similar to how a handful of quarterbacks have been put on ice in the last few years that had contract situations where the team didn't want them on the field, like Derek Carr and Russell Wilson, right? Was another one. So he's gone.

49:58I posit to you guys, I'll ask you like, what do you think the market will be for Kyler Murray in a contract that It guarantees him about$35,$36 million next year. And then after that is pretty much no guaranteed money.

50:15Jourdan Rodrigue:Well, he has such a high ceiling that I think, you know, we talked about him a lot on this show. I could see him with Mike McDaniels, for example. I could see if the Raiders blow the coaching side up and start over. I could see the Raiders taking a flyer, even on a bridge and maybe drafting somebody as well. I could see a lot of teams that would try, right? It's it's the and I'm not saying Kyler needs to be fixed. Let me be clear on that. I think he has such a high ceiling, but it's the ultimate. I can fix him. You know, exactly. Like I can make I can make this work where that team clearly had not for for years and years.

50:50The NFL is filled with coaches who think that they are the ones that can that can fix the quarterback that hasn't reached their potential, especially when we've seen flashes of that potential. So he'll land somewhere. Whether or not he'll be successful is the question. I'm just wondering, like, what's Josh Rosen up to these days? Poor Josh Rosen. Slanders. Man, this, like, the Cardinals have been on one. They really, they, something needs to break their way soon. It's a reminder, by the way, Josh Rosen, that you always get more in draft compensation for these quarterbacks on their second try than you think.

51:26I mean, Carson Wentz got a decent amount two different times after leaving the Eagles. Josh Rosen got a late second from Chris Greer back in the day. Not a great trade. I know Kyler Murray's contract. People think it looks terrible. $35 or$36 million guaranteed? For one year?

51:43Jourdan Rodrigue:Yeah, it's not. That's actually not bad. That's not a real starting quarterback salary, and it's not a long-term commitment, and they can probably renegotiate something. So I actually think he'll have a decent market. New York Jets quarterback. Right. Oh, my God, yeah. Maybe it's a third-round pick. I'm not saying they're going to get a first for Kyler Murray, but I wouldn't be shocked if they get like a future third or something like that, or like a two, a couple of years from now that, that might be a little rich. Jordan, that feels completely accurate. There are more, there are more teams than there are quarterbacks and it's not a good quarterback draft.

52:19Let's wrap up with the bucks and the Falcons. The bucks are favored by four and a half on TNF. You know, on one hand, these are two teams that are riding the struggle bus, Colleen. Sure. They sure are. On the other hand, they delivered a classic on TNF last season and actually had two games last season where they went freaking nuts. And if there's one good matchup, I think for Kirk cousins out there, it might be Todd Bowles because he's seen this defense a million times and he knows how to light it up. It's not the same Kirk cousins we saw last year, obviously, but if he ever was going to play well, maybe this is the night.

52:58Yeah. Well, I mean, I'm not sure I would go that far, but yes, I believe more in Baker Mayfield and the Bucs. And it looks like there's a chance for Mike Evans to come back in this game, which would be huge for that offense. Also, what got me thinking about the retro uniforms is the fact that the Bucs will be wearing their creamsicles and the Falcons will be wearing their inaugural 1966 season uniforms, which is also kind of a rarity because usually when teams are in a color, the other team is in white, but both teams are going to be in colors. That's like an NFL rule situation, so you need to get some type of clearance for that.

53:39But yeah, I mean, this is... Those are the ones with the red helmets. I don't like when they wear those helmets. I think the uniforms are different. I know what you're talking about, yeah. Yeah, I'm not dialed in on the 66 unis, but maybe I should be at this point. So yeah, the Bucs, if they lose, This is it could be detrimental to their division title hopes because that would potentially tie them then with the Panthers. They are tied right now with the Panthers. Depending on what happens. So, I mean, all of these games are so meaningful now as we are coming to the end of the regular season. Falcons have already been eliminated from playoff contention and they don't even own their first round pick for 2026.

54:18so losses are only going to improve the Rams draft positioning for next year so what are

54:26Jourdan Rodrigue:they playing for I don't know well Raheem Morris said this week they're playing spoiler they want to be spoilers to other teams I think this puts this game puts the Bucks backs against the wall even further sort of like um I know you guys used to say all the time on the show a wounded animal game or a cornered animal game because it's like they play the Panthers twice right coming up so that makes the pressure even higher because those games will certainly decide the NFC South. And so the, the potential for Mike Evans being back, like you said, for the bucks is huge. The potential for Tristan Wirfs likely being back this week, absolutely significant game changing factor along their offensive line.

55:05Jourdan Rodrigue:And I guess that receiver, cause he got a touchdown pass a couple, a couple of weeks ago, but, but the, the bottom line is, and you, and I expect Kirk cousins, because he's seen this defense so much. Todd Bowles, you're not sneaky. We know you only blitzed the Saints at like a 12 % rate last week. We know that's not who you are. You're trying to make them think you changed. You didn't change. You're going to try to blitz Kirk Cousins. And Kirk Cousins has seen it. And he knows how to diagnose it because the Falcons don't have a lot of schemed in pressure answers, which is very disappointing to watch.

55:36Jourdan Rodrigue:They're like ninth in the league in unblocked pressure. Pressure is allowed this season. And so Kirk Cousins setting things a little bit more effectively at the line will probably be a huge help for the Falcons. I just think this is a points game. As much as I love the Falcons defense this year, I just think this is a points game. Probably not getting Drake London back. So that's a problem. Kirk Cousins in this backup role. Like, I know older quarterbacks don't want to get hit. He really doesn't want to get hit. He is turning away from that pressure. And yet he's thrown the ball OK, I would say, the last couple of weeks.

56:10They went on these long drives against the Seahawks, a good defense, multiple times, but they just couldn't finish it. Bajon lost a fumble on one of them. They got stopped on a fourth down. They kicked in field goals, but they're not like the worst offense in the league. They're good enough to move the ball on this Bucs team, which gives up a lot of big plays, and isn't that athletic at the linebacker position, especially they look slow. So, I mean, I give the Falcons a chance in this game. The disappointing part, and it just feels kind of pointless, this whole Falcons regime right now, is that it's a Raheem Morris.

56:45It's supposed to be about the defense, and the defense did start so well. And then I look at the numbers. Like, defense isn't that much better than the offense. They're 17th in EPA per play now for the season. They're 20th in points allowed per drive. They're 15th in DVOA. So they're like a defense that's just average. The offense is a little below average, not much. Like Kyle Pitts, I remember you believed in him that it would finally happen. It's kind of happening, actually. It is. It's kind of happening. He looks pretty good.

57:10Jourdan Rodrigue:He looks late, I guess. It's like they fixed their pass rush and Kyle Pitts and everything else just went bluey. And those are the two things that they just could not get right before. Bajon's going to go over 2 ,000 yards from scrimmage this season. He is leading the NFL with 1 ,683 yards, so it's a chance to watch him. But yeah, obviously the Bucs. With Godwin and Irving back and playing well, and yet they're playing worse as a team. They did put Ben Bredesen, who's a starting guard, on injured reserve. he had returned to the lineup after an injury then re-injured it last week so they are missing their two starting guards and that's going to be for the rest of the season so they're not getting everyone back I will say Atlanta's defense does have a chance to be the factor in this game because as as correct as all that is about how underwhelming they've been and certainly the statistics reflect that and the tape reflects that they are also sort of a feast or famine team where when they take away when they create takeaways and and the you know the young safety Xavier Watts is playing really well.

58:08Jourdan Rodrigue:He's three interceptions and, uh, James Pierce is rushing the passer really well. So both of those players are leading the league and respective sacks and takeaways at their position, which has only happened one other time in NFL history in 2020. And when these guys are rookies, right for rookies. Yeah. And so when these, and that's courtesy, will McFadden dug that up. I want to make sure to cite him on that. The, the, um, the way that they take over, that they can take over when they actually do create splash plays. They have been able to do this. They have been able to be a factor. When Baker playing as erratic as he has been playing, I think that the Falcons, especially getting more aggressive with nothing really to lose, I think that they get really a lot more aggressive trying to make plays on the ball this game.

58:53Jourdan Rodrigue:And that could be a factor in this. Jordan, you're starting to convince me. And if it's going to be any season that it happens, It's this season where there have been so many upsets. I don't know if it's just because we're in the middle of it, but doesn't it feel like there's just been a disproportionate amount of upsets this season in general compared to the whole season. The whole season's an upset. At this point, we have an AFC playoffs without. I love our Patrick Mahomes and Joe Burrow. It's just an outrageous. It's so fun, though. It is great. Philip Rivers is back in the NFL. Like, right.

59:26Jourdan Rodrigue:Our pets heads are falling up. What's happening? And the Bucs, to the credit, have really only lost to good teams until last week. So if you lose at home to the Saints, anything is on the table. I think they'll find a way to get a win here. But looking forward to it. Shooky and I will recap it. I can't pick against the Bucs. You know that. So I got to pick the Bucs. I'm going to pick the Bucs. Let's take a 24-hour break here. Actually, it's going to be even less. So you're listening to this Wednesday morning. We had our 40s and free agents with Daniel Jeremiah. talking about this rookie class.

59:59And you mentioned it earlier. We're going to be hearing the first episode of NFL Daily's Power Players series.

1:00:08Jourdan Rodrigue:Ooh. Yes, I'm so excited. You guys know I love - Hosted by Jordan. I love football. And I love especially knowing how people do football and their process of things. And I like going into the nuts and bolts of like how people do their jobs in the league. And so it was really cool. We had the opportunity to do like a couple, just a little light sprinkle of these capsule episodes. And so every once in a while, listeners will get them in their feed. And the first one is up this Friday. It's Brant Tillis of the Carolina Panthers. I so thoroughly enjoyed speaking with him. He was way gracious with his time.

1:00:40Jourdan Rodrigue:I think you guys are going to I'm so excited about this because one of the things that I love to nerd out on is people's processes. And whenever I get a chance to like really get in the weeds with someone about how they go about doing things, I find it so interesting because it's just a little window into how their mind works. And that's going to be fantastic. Like everything that you've done with your Play Caller series before this, I think, is going to be even better. I can't wait to hear it. Thank you, Colleen. So we're looking forward to that. We're also looking forward to the holiday cards episode.

1:01:11Yes. I can't wait. I went down to the mail room. Okay, listen. I was like, hey guys, real quick. Is any chance that there's Christmas cards for me back there? Like a psychopath. Before the show started, there were not. Golden Retriever and Retriever. Well, we put it at the end of the episode last week, which was a bad job by us. And it's only been a week. It takes a little while, but we have it up. It's 900.

1:01:31Jourdan Rodrigue:Physical mail. It takes a little while. 900 District Drive. Do not, you know, have a coal in, a lump of coal in Colleen Wolfe's stocking. We need these cards. So send it to 900 District Drive. I need these cards. She needs them. Inglewood, California, 90303. Send them to Colleen Wolfe, Care of NFL Network. again, 900 District Drive, Pinguid, California, 90303. And you could contribute to the holiday spirit here. If you can give, please. Every little bit counts. Give of yourself. Give us good vibes. That's it. Hit it, please.

1:02:10Oh, God. Back in the feed later this week, like I said. And we'll be previewing all the games. We got NFL power players. It's all happening. Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year, everybody. God.

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