Bears-Vikings Week 1 MNF Recap, 49ers Injuries and an Eagles-Jags Trade!

22:27Nick Shook:Other than that, the discourse on J.J. McCarthy this week, it's going to be real annoying because they're going to get a lot of, oh, he's a gamer. He just knows how to win. Did you wear the Ohio State thing because it was going poorly? You thought you were going to spike the football on J.J.? No, I put this on five minutes before we did the show. Okay, well, that was a bad choice. I mean, what were you wearing before? A cutoff T-shirt. I'm at home. It's fine. Give the viewers what they want. I got to have sleeves for professionalism. I mean. You want to see this all show? I don't know. You're an athlete.

23:00Show it off. Yeah, there were good performances by the Bears defensive line, especially Dio. Adengbo, who was a pickup in the offseason, and had a nice night with the Sacrevan Dexter, who's been a slowly improving player on the interior, was better. But yeah, it's going to take a minute here, I think, for Ben Johnson to get this offense in sync. A lot of those penalties were on the offense. And it'll be a test of him as well, like how much patience can he have as a coach? Because you can tell he grips that play sheet pretty tight. I also think J.J. McCarthy has to like almost figure out maybe how to do less.

23:38I wonder if Kevin O 'Connell got in his ear about that because that pick six came after, you know, he was checking. He was changing the place. Way too much.

23:46Nick Shook:Way too much. Right? Yeah. I got to that point. The first four plays, he's like checking and I'm watching the play. They break the huddle with nine seconds. He's out there trying to check to a different play. I'm like, snap the ball. Right. And like they were having trouble like getting the snap off and everything. But it also was like, man, this is your first start, and I get what you're trying to do and everything, but it was almost like he was trying to show too much that he's ready and all the things that he learned because it felt like almost every play he was changing, and that would be fine if I saw him changing into good plays, but he kept changing into bad plays like that pick six.

24:21But, man, all that matters is how it ends. And, you know, I hate like, oh, he's a gamer analysis. Yeah. But a little like Michael Penix, I thought, at the end of that Falcons game, I know they didn't win it. Man, I just thought J.J. McCarthy made a ton of winning plays when it really mattered, and that matters. Like, he ended up with 140 yards. The whole team only ended up with 250. Like, I'm not going to pretend it was...

24:49Nick Shook:They had 85 yards after three quarters. Right. Like, I'm not going to pretend it was some great... But it matters. Like, it mattered to me watching that Penix game that, man, He played his very best on his last few drives of the game. We have a question asking, do you think J.J.'s performance in the fourth is more telling of his potential or O 'Connell's ability to develop quarterbacks? Look, Kevin O 'Connell's ability to develop quarterbacks at this point is unquestioned. I think he is one of the best to do it. I don't know what J.J. McCarthy is going to be long term based on this performance.

25:24but I guess my answer then is more O 'Connell. He's got moxie.

25:28Nick Shook:I'm going to sound like he's a gamer, but he does have moxie. At the end of the day, he plays football. I think it could be both, but O 'Connell I've seen do it with Josh Dobbs and Nick Mullins in some similar spots. I'll give the nod to O 'Connell for now, but a great first game for the Vikings to get off and running. Unfortunately, they did lose Blake Cashman there with a hamstring injury at one point. Okay, let's take a moment here. Let's reset. If you're listening to the audio, we're going to take a break right now.

26:04Let's get into the news. It is time for Delivering Results presented by Uber Eats. Yes, I want to mention that Tank Bigsby was traded tonight to the Philadelphia Eagles, Nick Shook. I wouldn't have been surprised if this trade happened a week before the season started, but I was surprised that it came out on Monday night right before this game began. The Eagles send a fifth and a sixth round pick to Jacksonville for Tank Bigsby. The Jaguars now have 13 picks in next year's draft, which is absolutely outrageous. Clearly a strategy there. It reminds me a lot of what James Gladstone, their general manager, did when he was in Los Angeles one year, just loading up on late picks because they don't even have their first round pick because of the Travis Hunter trade.

27:01But they have 13 picks now and Tank Bigsby goes to the Eagles. What did you think about this?

27:07Nick Shook:This has been a storyline that we've tracked since before camp started, but it was centered not on Tank Bigsby. It was centered on Travis Etienne. It was such a buzzworthy topic at the time that Liam Cohen had to come out and express plenty of confidence and appreciation for what Travis Etienne brought to the Jaguars. So I'm thinking, OK, whoever doesn't win this battle in preseason is going to get traded, but I'm leaning Etienne. So I'm a bit surprised to see that Bigsby gets traded because he led them in rushing last year. He outperformed Travis Etienne. But what we didn't consider is that they've played a game already.

27:43Nick Shook:and in that game travis etn ran the ball 16 times for 143 yards and suddenly guess what tank pack your bags you're going somewhere else the other end of the trade that i have a lot of questions about is the fact that he went to the eagles the same team with saquon barkley in the backfield the same team that went and got aj dylan as a power back the same team that has will shipley in the backfield which is not a super inspiring player but i like him as a player so the question i had was is shipley hurt is saquon dinged or do they miss what they lost in kenny gainwell and And they feel like they needed to add another player in their backfield.

28:15Nick Shook:And Tank was the perfect guy for it. So we'll find out. But it's the Eagles accruing talent because, again, they're in their title window. I think it's so funny that they've become a team now that is majoring in running backs. Yeah. Like, that's not what we thought they were going to be. And, yeah, the comment there that it's root and tootin' time. We'll get to the Jaguars side of it. But everyone who bought stock, like me and Basial Tootin, not just in fantasy, but just in reality, in the preseason is celebrating because I think this trade is absolutely about him from the Jaguars side. But the Eagles, to me, I think are more interesting because they're trying to win a Super Bowl.

28:53And you said it. I thought A.J. Dillon looked good in that. Like one or two carries that they gave him in that game. Will Shipley, they like a lot. So maybe we will hear about an injury. I don't think of Tank Bigsby, certainly, as a Kenny Gainwell type. They are missing that in theory. I think that's kind of what Will Shipley would be. but maybe they just want to have depth. Maybe they're not happy with, with AJ Dillon, but they gave up some real capital, like a fifth and a sixth round pick is, is, is a real trade. And they seriously wanted to improve that room. So they were thought about Nick as like team analytics, running backs don't matter.

29:30Don't pay the running backs. And also the, what's the other position that doesn't matter inside linebacker, just like, eh, we don't need to play linebackers. their team and and who has literally the best inside linebacker duo now in the nfl yeah but

29:46Nick Shook:they bought low what they bought low they bought low on bond last year and then you know made out like gangbusters and then they spend a top pick on jihad gamble so it's like right now that's a first round pick right and they just gave a contract to bond and i i think it's it's kind of like the lessons if if we want to think of them as analytically minded money ball all that like it's just looking for edges and at a certain point after everyone copies what you're doing like the edge becomes doing the opposite of what you need to do you zag right it's it's basically like doing stocks uh do you like basial tootin do you have a hot take on him i've already basial tootin put down a great 40 time at the combine he like kind of set the running backs today on fire in indianapolis um and he was the talk of the town that night he also seemed to have an issue with ball security and camp um kind of faded into the background as they went through the preseason i think a lot of that was because of the trade rumors with etn and who was going to go between him and big speed but it felt like he was running back three in that depth chart now he's running back two i like him as a as a big play potential guy because of his speed but we don't have a lot of proof because he's a rookie and everything else and because etn's the lead back so as a spell guy with big play potential yeah i do like him i wouldn't buy as much stock as you did but it's aspirational stock anyway and it's worth nothing so why not buy it all it's not he's in the mix he's he's now going to be a major factor because travis etn is a really good running back and i thought he had his best game of his career it really wasn't just that long run just overall he looked patient it looked like the system fit him i think he can run with power he's obviously got the speed like not he's not a powerful guy but i think he's shown he could run inside the tackles enough but he's not a guy you're going to want to give 25 30 touches to in a game and when Tootin came in for ETN after he ripped off that 71 yarder because he was tired, like Tootin's first run, his jump cuts are so violent.

31:40And he just jumped from one hole laterally, but also while moving forward to get like an eight yard run. You just you just know what when you see it. I think he's special. Like, you know who he reminds me of is Joe Mixon as a runner. And Joe Mixon isn't running a four three. But I just mean in the like the violence of the way Joe Mixon cut coming out. I thought like, oh, man, that's spicy. And I get a little vibe from that from Tootin. So fun. We get a nice little Monday night trade. And yes, that was delivering results. I think Tootin is going to be delivering results. And it's presented by Uber Eats where you can get the best deals on game day food all season long.

32:26the official on-demand delivery partner of the NFL, order now. Okay, let's go to the injuries that we found out on Monday evening. Our insiders confirming that George Kittle is going to be out multiple weeks. Kyle Shanahan ended up talking about it and saying that injured reserve is at least a possibility for George Kittle because it's going to be multiple weeks after leaving on Sunday. And then the bigger surprise is that Brock Purdy is uncertain for week two. I mean, he stayed in that game and I thought he played a lot better than than the highlights would have indicated in terms of the interception.

33:10But he is now uncertain for their week two game.

33:14Nick Shook:Yeah, I actually went back and watched this game again today just to get the full play by play review of it. And I was trying to spot when I thought he might have hurt the toe. and I think it happened when Julian Love came in on the blitz and sacked him because his foot got planted awkwardly but I'm shocked that first off Kyle said that the toe injury is more important than the shoulder thing that he's dealing with I'm shocked that he finished that game was able to make that throw on the run at the end to Tonjes for the touchdown with that injury it's maybe one of those things where the adrenaline and everything else it doesn't start to really hurt until the next day and then you realize oh god I'm in a I'm in a tough spot I am concerned that I'm not concerned that they don't have Kittle because there's ways to make up for that.

33:54Nick Shook:Granted, they don't have a lot of receivers healthy, so it's a loss, but they were able to win that game without Kittle. He left in the second quarter. I'm more concerned if you don't have Brock Purdy, how this suddenly just shrinks your offense as a whole, and a foot issue is something that could linger, and you know how important feet are, especially to guys like quarterbacks. So, it's interesting on the Kittle side because Kyle said a few weeks, Ian Rappaport reported 3-5. Short-term IR makes sense. The extra week might make sense. Like if your window's three weeks and you want to go four and designate to return, that sort of thing.

34:25Nick Shook:I think that would make sense since it happened in week one, you have a longer runway. But I wrote this when I wrote it up today. It wouldn't be a 49er season if somebody important didn't get hurt early. Like it's just a repetitive thing with them and it bums me out. I'm very concerned. I think they have a few pillars in their offense. And yeah, Chris points out in the comments, We love all the comments, guys, that CMC is now the healthiest guy in San Francisco, just as we all suspected. So they have a few pillars that make them special. It's Christian McCaffrey. It's Trent Williams. It's George Kittle.

35:02And Purdy, I think, does elevate, ultimately, the people around him. A toe injury is very concerning. But Kittle's 32 years old. And I know he's coming off one of his best seasons of his entire career. but he is 32 years old and starting the season with a hamstring injury at that age. And he is a player that has had injury issues that have kept him out is concerning because they are just not the same without him. Juwan Jennings left that game with an injury. It doesn't sound like that one is going to be overly serious. I do think they have something really good in Ricky Pierce. So I'm not saying they're without weapons, but Trent Williams had one of the worst games of his career.

35:42I was shocked rewatching that game. I've never seen Trent Williams struggle that much. Yeah, you know who played better than him?

35:48Nick Shook:Colton McKivitts played better than him on Sunday. Speaking of Colton McKivitts, he signed a contract extension since we last recorded. Good job by you setting me up there. Nick Shook. I thought it was a very reasonable one considering he's like an average tackle and average tackles get paid, you know, 20 million plus on the open market. And so I think we criticize the 49ers for waiting till the last second to get all these contracts done and then everyone gets upset well this is an example of them maybe changing their ways so good job by them there I I am concerned especially if Purdy does not play and I was referring to how I thought he did better than and you can tell me if you disagree there were some groaners like that the interceptions were really good plays by the Seahawks but he threw a few up for grabs but he had five or six awesome throws in that game didn't you think and Yeah, I agree.

36:41And held up under pressure, I thought, pretty well.

36:43Nick Shook:Yeah, on the rewatch. That's part of why I went and rewatched it, because I'm like, I watched this live, maybe not on an exact play-by-play basis, because I've got like five games up or whatever. I think there was four in that window. And I went back because I felt uncertain about how his performance really went. Because the one thing that stuck, the two plays that stuck out in my mind were the second interception he threw and then the touchdown pass he threw. And the Ernest Jones interception was a great play, I think, made by Ernest Jones. So I wanted to run it back. And I agree. I think that there were more positive throws than negative throws in that game he comes through in the clutch as well and he did it without George Kittle out there too so yeah I think that the highlights common example of how the highlight package doesn't always do a guy justice I look at Dylan Gabriel's week two preseason game as another example watch every play to truly get an understanding of how a quarterback played wait that was the good Dylan Gabriel one or the that was that was the Dylan Gabriel game his first one where he threw a really bad pick six yes and the The rest of the game was pretty good.

37:37Nick Shook:Yes. I lost track of my Dylan Gabriel games. As one does. Good context. I had a whole segment planned for Brock Purdy tomorrow. If you watch our show on Tuesday, me and Jordan Rodriguez are going to do good omens, bad omens for the 2025 NFL season. The 49ers' first drive of the season to me was going to be a good omen. They got the ball on the five-yard line. Brock Purdy was under heat over and over in that drive, and he kept finding receivers that weren't really open. And I have become a Brock Purdy defender lately. I don't think he's amazing, but I think he's a plus quarterback who makes a lot of difficult throws that aren't really there.

38:21And I think he elevates actually the people around him. And even if he makes some mistakes that prevent him from being a top eight quarterback, he's a value add who's better than I think people think. And that is no longer going to be my good omen. Chuck, you got to be able to audible sometimes. Wouldn't really make sense for tomorrow's show. So I'm glad we got him in here. You know what? I'm also glad to get in. The rest of the news is actually sponsored. It's time for our kickoff week recap presented by Nationwide. I predicted on Sunday night's show, Nick, you might remember that Brian Dable is going to make the change at quarterback because they asked him after the game if he's considering a change and he said yeah and then he didn't answer the question and when coaches are non-committal I've learned over the years they're gonna make a change now I should have been a little more careful that's always the case when that happens on Monday it's mostly the case when it happens right after the game and they're emotional and in the end I was wrong I'll I'll wear it when I'm wrong Brian Dable you proved me wrong do you intend to start Russell Wilson this week Yes.

39:36Yep.

39:37Nick Shook:Okay. Was that ever? I mean, and after a game, you know, it's an emotional game. It's a tough game. Didn't play particularly well, I would say, collectively. But in terms of making any of those decisions, really at any position or schematic changes, I'd like to do it with a clear head and watch the tape. And again, like I said yesterday, that game just doesn't fall on Russell Wilson. okay first off i have your back because i got a similar vibe from his response the window in which he delivered it you're right after the game can't take it you know completely 100 at face value you gotta take it with a grain of salt i don't think you were wrong here because i think that eventually he's going to make this decision and i think jordan explained it perfectly on the show yesterday which is that in that goal line scenario when they failed to get a touchdown they had like seven plays down there and they end up settling for three he made that decision as if I can't watch this anymore because I ran this bet game back today and I had the same conclusion where I was like I cannot believe that you couldn't punch the ball into the end zone from there and it's not a running game thing it's the fact that Russell Wilson in this game I know we already broke it down yesterday but there were multiple times where pocket's pretty clean and if his first read's not there he's looking to take off as if it's 2014 not forgetting that it's 2025 that's a bad sign to me so I could have seen him making this change and he's gonna make this change because these things are not going to go away against different opponents this is going to be a consistent issue Malik Nabors bailed him out a lot in that game and I think over the course of the next month if not sooner Brian Dable's patience is going to run out just not this week you you mentioning that it got me thinking I thought you were maybe going to go conspiracy theory here the Giants are an organization where ownership has gotten involved with quarterback decisions in the past, famously making Ben McAdoo bench Geno Smith for Eli Manning.

41:38We've seen how their influence, I guess, in the Saquon Barkley situation was more or less ignored. But we've heard whispers that Daniel Jones was essentially given that big contract because ownership believed in him and wanted him so much when maybe the front office and especially the coaching staff had mixed feelings about him. And that's given them in a sense, a longer leash. Like they know in that building that Daniel Jones wasn't really all on the decision makers there. And ultimately it's all going to be about Jackson Dart, but you just never know who's getting involved, whether it's the general manager or ownership.

42:18These are decisions that are bigger than just the head coach, especially I think in New York and I don't think Russell Wilson played well at all, but they might feel like for whatever reason, it'd be unfair to bench him now that dark another week or two, whatever it is. And so Russell Wilson will get at least one more chance and we'll see who do they have on the schedule this week. I should know this. I'm putting you on the spot. Well,

42:47Nick Shook:luckily I have a Jesus in front of me. So they're playing the Cowboys in Dallas. Ooh, that's a spicy second. week. I don't think it's a bad matchup to have to have. If it's a disastrous game, because I think that public perception plays a factor in them sticking with Russell Wilson, especially if ownership wants him to stick with Russell Wilson. Brian Dable's coaching for his job. He does not have total patience to let it play out like Mike Tomlin did last year with Russell Wilson. I'm sure he wants to make that change, and if ownership is involved, it's a perception thing. We can't look like a chaotic organization after one week.

43:19Nick Shook:We have to stick with them for another week, but if they go to Dallas and gets smoked and Russell Wilson's terrible, that change is going to happen. Fair. I should have mentioned, by the way, with San Francisco, if Purdy does not play this week, they are in New Orleans. So if you were ever on the fence to play or, you know, sit them for one week in New Orleans, and then they're home for the Cardinals and the Jaguars, who I think are competitive, fun, maybe even playoff teams if everything breaks right. But it is one of the softer portions of a pretty soft 49ers schedule. So I guess if this was going to happen, it happened at a pretty good point.

43:56Just some other real quick items of news as we wind down here. Nick Amon Worry is a candidate for injured reserve for the Seahawks. Charverius Ward, who had a good first game for the Colts in concussion protocol. The Panthers defensive tackle they picked up. Tershawn Wharton is out two to four weeks. Any of those stand out to you as particularly important, Shook. Emin Worry happened about four plays into that Seahawks game.

44:25Nick Shook:Yeah, that was a big bummer for them. And I think he would have made a difference, especially in the way that this game unfolded with Purdy leading them down the field and throwing that touchdown pass, especially with the game that Reek Woolen had. The help over the top from a safety with the athleticism that Emin Worry brings to the field would have been a pretty big boost for them. So that one probably sticks out to me the most. Charverius Ward, veteran cornerback, concussion protocol. You hope that's a pretty quick turn for him. panthers i mean they need every they need their bodies they need every body available right now to uh bounce back after the game that they just had so yeah but yeah i think that even worry is probably the one that that sticks out the most i'm also looking through the players right now because watching the game back it was uh demarcus lawrence oh my god he had a few plays there where i'm like who is zero oh demarcus lawrence in a zero all over the field like he would he's one of those players.

45:15If I still wrote, maybe we'll make it into a podcast. It'd be a good offseason podcast. It's not the Hall of Very Good, but I just think it's all-time great players that have no chance for the Hall of Fame. Demarcus Lawrence is one of my all-time favorite players. It's not at that level, but he's just a dude. A couple other little items I'll just run through. Julian Blackman, who is a starting safety for the Saints, could be out for the season. Denzel Perryman for So the Chargers, their linebacker, out two to four weeks. Texans tight end Cade Stover out a few weeks. And Kendrick Bourne signed with the San Francisco 49ers.

45:54That was kickoff week recap presented by Nationwide. Nationwide is so much more than a great insurance company. They're one of America's largest financial services companies, too, for your insurance and financial needs. Nationwide is on your side. Just a couple other quick things here. TMZ reported that Tyree Kill, his estranged wife, Kida Vaccaro, has accused him of abuse on filings related to their divorce. And she accused in this report, which was from TMZ, but had the documents, reported that he had an argument that escalated to physical violence last week. There were eight different times that that happened, according to the allegations, including punching her in the stomach while she was pregnant.

46:39also alleged to punch in the face and choked. He does not face criminal charges, but Tyreek Hill has a history going back to college and in the NFL for abuse incidents. And the NFL has a wide berth of what they want to look at that could go under the personal conduct policy. So that is something just to keep an eye on. I didn't want to end the show on that news, but I did think it was good for people to know. So I do want to ask you something. Putting you on the spot, Shook. We got you on all these primetime games. This is it. We're going to be back on Thursday night. We got a doubleheader next week.

47:21That's pretty exciting. Welcome back. They're actually good games. I'm going to put you on the spot because you're not in the Tuesday, Wednesday shows where we kind of take a step back and do some analysis like that. give me one team or player that after one week changed your mind that you feel a little

47:40Nick Shook:differently about after one week okay it's not a prime time game despite me being on all the prime time shows no it should be anything yeah um it's not a player and it's not a team it's a uh it's a position group it is the colts offensive line we spent so much time this offseason and lamenting how they mismanaged the pending free agents that ended up going elsewhere and how it was going to set them back offensively and you're going to put Daniel Jones behind an offensive line that's not going to be as strong as it was last year and it already wasn't very strong. They held up pretty damn well in week one against the Dolphins.

48:15Nick Shook:That Dolphins front that we know they've invested heavily in that was ready to pin their ears back and get after Daniel Jones wasn't really able to do it. We know the day that he had, but running that game back today, I was just very impressed by how stout they were up front. And so they changed my mind in just one week. We'll see if it holds up over the course of the season. But in one week, I was very impressed by them. Of course, we're going to end the show. It's like, oh, yeah, it's a big time ratings grab. We're just going to go for the easy, like low hanging fruit. Cowboys suck. Shook goes Colts offensive line.

48:48If my over under win totals podcast with Nick Wright that we put up a couple weeks ago where I'm trying to keep my undefeated record of the last three years going. Well, first of all, we did eight picks this year, so I'm not staying undefeated. But some of them after one week I already have regrets about. The Colts might be on top of that list, under 7.5. I don't think Daniel Jones is going to play like this all year. Man, they have some winnable games on the schedule. There are actually some really talented players on that roster. And one thing Shane Steichen is going to do is he's going to win eight or nine games.

49:24Nick Shook:you know that's all they got that's true that that is true i will say i daniel jones had a great game i'm not going to take that away from him he also had some turnover worthy throws that weren't picked so he also took two massive hits during the game so yeah we could be right back to anthony richardson land uh if it goes wrong shook appreciate you uh this will be the the only time i think we go thursday friday monday so we appreciate everyone who joined us on the youtube live stream. We appreciate everyone who has made this first full week of the NFL daily schedule a treat and a success. And we love how the numbers are growing and all the feedback that you guys have given to us.

50:04We're looking forward to a good week. I will be back in the studio on Tuesday with Jordan Rodriguez. I mentioned good omens, bad omens. We'll get into the news of the day. man these comebacks if it stays this good all year like this might be the highest rated YouTube live show there is we'll see you too

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