Burning Offseason Questions and Pitts Tagged with Ian Rapoport

13:05Ian Rapoport:What do you think the appetite for trading will be with them?

13:11Gregg Rosenthal:I mean, trading Minka, I don't know if he would want to be traded. Not that it totally matters, but, I mean, that's the kind of thing that makes sense. He would be on his third contract. He's a little older. He's good, but is he like the big splashy player that you have to hold on to? I'm not sure. That makes sense. I mean, they're going to need to find money somewhere. they are in a Chris Greer left them in a really really challenging cap spot and so like you know would they like to trade Minka probably not um but now the knives are out for Chris Greer you just waited till he left you know I mean I was pretty I was pretty clear about what it was beforehand um which I'm sure Chris Greer did not really like that very much but like one of the things I kept saying on air which again I'm sure he was not a huge fan of was like when you make your team you revamp your team in May and June, you're getting the dregs of what's available.

14:06Gregg Rosenthal:And trading for Darren Waller and having him be your number one tight end, it's brutal. You can't have a roster set up like that. It was a lot of bad there. And the Tua contract is bad. I don't even mind that one because you sort of had to do it at the time. You had to. Maybe.

14:26Ian Rapoport:but they were all in if you look back on that Tyreek Hill trade I think that's where it all started like in theory yeah they supercharged their offense and he had great years for them but you traded a first I think it was what two seconds a couple like fourths or something like that was a lot and a lot of money for I mean look at the opposite look at what Ken City did with all that all those resources they built a defense so that's the Dolphins I wanted to mention Kyle Pitts is getting tagged. The Cowboys and George Pickens is the other guy that's almost certainly going to get tagged. Stephen Jones did speak to the media here on Monday and kind of mentioned how they're going to need the money from the Kenny Clark and Quinnen Williams contracts.

15:11Ian Rapoport:I don't know how exactly he's talking about opening up that money. Restructure. Restructure. Or you could cut or trade Kenny Clark. Could.

15:20Gregg Rosenthal:Now it would be interesting if they did that after making a big deal that he was a key piece.

15:24Ian Rapoport:They also made a big deal that they were excited to get Logan Wilson for a minute and they cut him last week for what it's worth. But I know not the same level. Yeah, not the same level.

15:33Gregg Rosenthal:I, yeah, I mean, George Pickens is getting tagged. We knew that. I mean, I talked about that in November. I'm interested in what happens next because more so than ever the Cowboys are cognizant of being really top heavy and have a lot of money and a great receiver. And George Pickens for a year was awesome. might they and they got him for a three might they trade him might they tag him and trade him and then use the money to build their defense that would make the most sense to me steven jones did

16:02Ian Rapoport:say hey we know george pickens gonna be here we love george pickens now that could be him said the same thing about micah said the same thing about micah okay that that would be a fun team build and it actually would make a lot of sense to me if they did that but either way they kind of indicated that he's gonna get tagged which i'm not saying that's why i put malik willis number one and george pickens number two but in the end i was like george pickens gonna get tagged and when that final list comes out because we update it we're on top of things as players get cut as players get tagged we're gonna do it up until the minute free agency you know until the negotiating period starts he's gonna get taken off anyways and he would have been number one while we're here with the cowboys javante williams got a three-year 24 million dollar contract 16 million dollars guaranteed.

16:47Ian Rapoport:Did that tell you anything about like the running back market? Yeah.

16:50Gregg Rosenthal:Uh, it's so it's always, you know, I talk to agents a lot and like people like you are always like, you know, Oh, like, you know, you're talking about this deal is great because you broke it or agent, your friend. Right. Um, here's what I would say about that deal. It takes a bold agent to step out and do the first deal in a market.

17:09Ian Rapoport:Yes.

17:10Gregg Rosenthal:Two weeks before free agency, before the combine i thought that was a great deal um i thought the deal done by nicole lynn by the way of clutch sports um joel siegel did it you don't have to whisper it uh joel siegel did it several years ago joel siegel did it a couple years ago with matt milano in the deal i will never forget it was like four years 44 million he did it before free agency everyone's like what is joel doing and it was the best linebacker deal the whole market that year he knew the market wasn't wasn't Shy, did it early, and, like, I'm going to set up everyone else and do the right deal for my player.

17:45Gregg Rosenthal:And that's what I thought this was. All, like, if you're a good starting running back now, it starts at 8. Like, for, like, the Rico Dowdles of the world, like, this is a great deal. For J.K. Dobbins, who else is available running back? I think Brees Hall might get, we'll see. I think Brees Hall, ETN, Ken Walker, get paid solid money. Ken Walker's probably above that. but like Rico Dallas should get eight now.

18:11Ian Rapoport:This helps him. I don't think he will though. Look, I don't know the agent at all. I didn't know who the agent was but this was what I wrote that he was my RB5 in free agency. It was a great career turnaround but with more expected cuts about to flood the market they're wise to take the money now. I don't know if Javante Williams was getting that elsewhere so I agree. And it keeps Dallas from moving on too

18:32Gregg Rosenthal:was the other thing. They could be like, we're good. that's your best market is the team that you proved it for. Anyway, go ahead.

18:39Ian Rapoport:I mean, you're checking the news while you're doing this. I'm seeing your Instagram pop up. It says you've had like 100 followers since the last time you checked in. What's going on? People love me. Why, though? I don't know.

18:53Gregg Rosenthal:It's a great question.

18:54Ian Rapoport:Actually, Ian's a good guy. He tweeted out today the top 101 list. He's sneaky, a good teammate. I'm not sneaky, a good teammate. But I'm he is just a good team. I'm just a good teammate. I you know, he's not everyone's flavor. But once you get used to it, it's like it's it's like this blackjack. Have you ever heard of blackjack gum?

19:16Gregg Rosenthal:No, I'm not a weirdo.

19:17Ian Rapoport:For some reason, I heard someone mention blackjack gum in a podcast recently. And it's like an old, I think, Jewish type of like like old like Jews, like my grandfather would have had a lot of blackjack. And then I saw I went to I went to like a diner that night and I saw it for sale. And I had a little blackjack gum. And it's licorice flavored. And at first I thought it was disgusting. And by like day two of it, I was like, oh, I get it. Like it's so distinctive that I want more of it. And that's what Ian Rappaport is like. I don't even know what to say to that. I think just dead silence is perfect.

19:51Ian Rapoport:The Colts and Daniel Jones, they're one of the most fascinating teams. I ended up putting them lower in my top 10. Yeah, give me the 20 seconds on that first. Well, he's coming off a torn Achilles that he's had major arm surgery previously. And his career has been pretty up and down. So I don't know what he's going to be like this season. And he fit with Shane Steigen. Does he fit with everyone? He's still in my top 10 free agents. He's a quarterback. But I'd rather have Malik Willis. I think his ceiling might be higher. So I do wonder what – I have no idea what they're going to do. To me, them between him and Alec Pierce both being available.

20:29Gregg Rosenthal:Pierce being a top receiver is not that it threw a wrench in things because these are good problems to have, but that's pretty interesting.

20:38Ian Rapoport:He's my number five overall player. Michael Pittman is on the last year of his contract. Could he be a potential trade candidate? If they have to prioritize, how do you think they figure this out between those two especially?

20:53Gregg Rosenthal:So I'm going to be really interested to see Daniel Jones. Does he get a long-term deal before? This is basically, and it's hilarious, but it's the same exact thing again. Instead of Saquon, it's Alec Pierce. Remember, we was like, is Saquon going to get tagged? Is Daniel Jones going to get tagged? In the end, Saquon ends up getting tagged. And Daniel Jones does a deal. But is he going to do a deal this time? I mean, the deal could end up similar to last time in the low 40s. Multi-years?

21:25Ian Rapoport:What do you think? You're holding out on me.

21:28Gregg Rosenthal:I mean, I think multi-year deal would make sense. He's a quarterback. Like, he's young. He's a good guy. He works hard. And when he's been healthy, which, I mean, dude played through a broken leg. Like, I reported that, and even still, I'm like, are we serious? Like, is this really what it is? I had that double check because, like, he really played in a broken leg. Like, that's the guy you want. It's just can you do a long-term deal? And if they do a long-term deal, then I wonder if Alec Pierce gets tagged, taking another top free agent receiver off the market, which always seems to happen.

21:58Ian Rapoport:I think that is how it should happen. Tagging Daniel Jones doesn't really make a lot of sense to me. I have a sneaky hot take. I've never gotten out about the Daniel Jones situation. I'm ready for it. I'm excited. Remember how everyone was giving his friends that he's got these super smart friends from, where was it, Stanford? I should know this. You know, from Duke, rather. that helped create this special brace that was going to let him play through a broken leg. And then he tore his Achilles like a game and a half later, and no one was like, maybe these are connected. Maybe you shouldn't have been playing on the broken leg.

22:38Ian Rapoport:We're all giving your buddies a ton of credit for their great brace, and your career was kind of altered forever two games later. No one's seen that there's a connection here. I mean, the baseball You start using one leg a little more And it's like, whoa, it's a different leg Yeah, because you're making up for the other leg that's freaking broken

22:57Gregg Rosenthal:I mean, same thing happened to Lindsey Vonn You know, it's like Skying on a torn ACL And her body's different She's not as stable And she shatters her leg in a way that she'll Maybe never recover It's called cascading injuries And it really, one thing Affects the other thing And yeah, playing with a broken leg, I'm sure, affected the Achilles This is why

23:19Ian Rapoport:Ian makes the big money. This is why Ian went out of his way to get here before the winter storm. That's how much he wants to be on NFL Daily. That he flew to Florida to fly to Indianapolis from New York because he was afraid of getting stuck in the winter storm and missing NFL Daily. And so that's the type of person...

23:41Gregg Rosenthal:Yeah, that was the... The head of the Olympic test. I will say, interestingly enough, flying for 14 hours doesn't make you feel the greatest.

23:51Ian Rapoport:Yeah.

23:52Gregg Rosenthal:Interestingly. Yeah.

23:53Ian Rapoport:You're being very generous. I have a lot to get through. We're going to take a quick break. We're going to come back. You have commercials? We're going to fly through. Obviously, I'm a huge fan. In real life, we don't have to take a real break.

24:01Gregg Rosenthal:I'm a huge fan of this show. Obviously, I watch a lot, so I know that.

24:04Ian Rapoport:I mean, it's more of an audio thing, but you can check us out on YouTube back in a second.

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28:29Ian Rapoport:Ian is barely paying attention to me. He's looking at his phone, but he's still giving good takes. I was trying to lead to before about get a man that can do both, that you had a good Olympics analogy. Did you have a favorite Olympics moment? I don't think we've mentioned the Olympics one time. I mean, really not?

28:49Gregg Rosenthal:I think it just hasn't come up. I love the Olympics, but I was in Deer Valley skiing, And like rich guy problems, poor athlete problems, really the problem. Not poor athlete, mediocre athlete. I couldn't watch as much as I wanted to. I mean, the Olympic, you know, the Olympic gold medal win for the hockey team was an all time classic moment. And I'm like, I will nerd out like like all of us do. Like the call was amazing. Call was great. You know, like these are things I get weirdly nervous about is like great moment. You only get one shot at it. I know you have a spotter, but hockey's fast. And you don't quite know, is it a goal?

29:31Gregg Rosenthal:Is it not? Guys streaking down the ice who score. It was amazing. Incredible.

29:37Ian Rapoport:I mean, to be fair, both Olympic golden goals were great. I wasn't as big of a fan of the call in the women's one, but the women's one was better. That's an all-time. They're both all-time, all-time goals. But to pull a one-on-one move off like that to win the gold medal, Well, that's an even better moment, but they're both incredible.

29:56Gregg Rosenthal:I wish it was when I was sitting in front of a TV paying more attention.

30:00Ian Rapoport:Okay, I'm fascinated by the Eagles. Okay. I don't know if you have anything on the Eagles specifically. First of all, since we last taped, Lane Johnson is returning to the Eagles this year. We don't know about Landon Dickerson. There's been reports that he's considering retirement. Pretty beat up. Multiple trade options here. Tanner McKee, A.J. Brown, a ton of free agents. Dallas Goddard, Jalen Phillips, N 'Kobe Dean. I would throw in, and I haven't asked you this off, Mike, so it's going to be tough for you to answer it on. Will it be tough? I would throw in Jalen Carter as a really crazy trade candidate if someone wanted to come.

30:38Ian Rapoport:Are they willing to go the extra mile and pay Jalen Carter a ton of money? Now would be the time. I just feel like the breadcrumbs are telling us the Eagles are going to go nuts this offseason.

30:48Gregg Rosenthal:What does nuts mean? Are you talking get rid of guys or bring in guys?

30:53Ian Rapoport:Because like, you know, I just think be extremely active in free agency, getting rid of guys, getting guys, trades that they're going to be trying to win, of course, but that the team you see in 2026 is going to look a lot different than the team you saw in 25.

31:06Gregg Rosenthal:I think that's probably right. Now, trading AJ, anything's possible, but it doesn't really help them. It really doesn't. It costs a lot. It's hard on the cap. And he's a great receiver. and so like I understand and him and Jalen from what I'm told are in a much better place now than they were almost at any point last year until week like 14, 15, 16 so I don't know that they have to do it now if you'd asked me in week 8 I would say you have to do it I don't know that they have to do it now it's just like money like you would have to give them away and pay for it I don't know because of all the extensions they give them I don't know that that really makes sense.

31:49Gregg Rosenthal:It can happen. Now, the Jalen Carter one is an interesting one because he is a great player. But to have great players, you have to pay them the money. So what does he make? $32 million a year? If you pay him, who do you not pay?

32:06Ian Rapoport:They do have the fifth-year option with him. So that can kick the game out.

32:09Gregg Rosenthal:Right, but every year, they go for it every year. And so when you do that, you pay for everything. and so like Dallas Goddard like I don't know what's going to happen but generally when a player takes a pay cut one year the next year they go somewhere else that's just so I do think they'll be active I just don't know I don't know that it'll be as crazy as we all were anticipating

32:31Ian Rapoport:but we'll see I have some more teams but now that you mentioned uh some of the players there and Jalen Phillips specifically I might just rip through some free agents Jalen Phillips very interesting two sacks yeah that was the one response i i do send my list out to various dignitaries including yourself you were the last person to respond um but that you sent a response at all i appreciate it and the only response was like jalen phillips really two sacks i mean

33:00Gregg Rosenthal:was it only two sacks it was like it was like three years i mean he had two sacks i think he had two sacks for the Eagles. He is a really disruptive player who made a splash and then didn't do much after. But like those guys get paid. Five sacks

33:14Ian Rapoport:total. Three before, right? A ton of pressure. Pressure is production.

33:18Gregg Rosenthal:Agreed. He's going to get paid, but I'm just it's going to be really interesting because they don't need to justify anything. But you could justify that trade by giving him big money. But like, and you've seen him in your system. You've seen him with Fangio a couple times. Fangio's coming back. which I definitely wasn't sure about for a while. So paying him makes a lot of sense. I just, the production, how do you calculate the value is going to be really interesting. He'll get paid, though.

33:46Ian Rapoport:To me, he has a lot of similarities to guys that they used to pay back in the day. Now he might cost more because now he's getting into free agency, which is like the first Josh Sweat contract or Brandon Graham's contracts all throughout the years where guys who didn't rack up a ton of sacks but were really complete, versatile players. And seems like a good guy.

34:05Gregg Rosenthal:Like, they liked him a lot. Like, keeping him makes sense.

34:08Ian Rapoport:He had a monster year in Miami. It was just a few years ago before those injuries happened. So he's not just like a one-hit wonder. You thought Linderbaum is an interesting situation. And if you have any possible teams for any of these players, just throw them out there. Jamie Phillips, Linderbaum.

34:25Gregg Rosenthal:I do not like to do that. I don't like to play that game. Because then teams are like, hey, why would you say this? And then agents are like, why would you say this? Say to this guy. And I'm just like, I don't.

34:33Ian Rapoport:When you say things, it makes news. It changes the prediction markets.

34:38Gregg Rosenthal:Yes, I care greatly about the prediction markets. Maybe I should. I don't know. There's plenty of people who will say, this team should sign this player, and then it becomes a whole article.

34:54Ian Rapoport:Linderbaum's interesting. I do that all the time. I just did one with Bill Barnwell. I had no idea. It was a good podcast. Yes. The Linderbaum's interesting because he almost, not almost,

35:06Gregg Rosenthal:he cannot get tagged. It's a tackle tag, right? And so what is the tackle tag? It's like 28 or something. Yeah, I mean, not going to be that. It's offensive lineman tag. Right, but it's really a tag. Guards get tagged only when they're Trey Smith, and that made the guard market go crazy, and everyone else was like, seriously? But you had to do it, right? Linderbaum is the top center. He's a really good player who the Ravens should want to keep and feel like they have to keep, but every year they've let a couple offensive linemen go and figure it out.

35:43Ian Rapoport:They haven't seemed that interested in keeping him. They didn't fit your option.

35:47Gregg Rosenthal:They didn't fit your option, but they have tried to negotiate with him. His agent is very difficult to negotiate with. Neil Kornwich is the agent, and his method is basically just not responding.

36:00Ian Rapoport:We all have someone like that in our life It's a pretty good negotiation Yeah, I mean, right

36:08Ian Rapoport:It's like trying to get Ian on this podcast

36:09Gregg Rosenthal:I would think So they've done deals Eric Takas, the way he does things It's kind of like Howie Roseman He's very aggressive And he will keep at it So they locked Ronnie Stanley up I think it was like the Saturday before free agency last year Is that right? Something like that

36:26Ian Rapoport:It might have even been into the negotiating window unless it was all tampering because the reporting afterwards was kind of like the Patriots drove up the price. But maybe that was behind. You're right that it might have happened on Saturday. Yeah, I mean, now it's sort of like. I do like that's one thing that's changed over the years. Maybe you can give us some context. You know, Florio used to always, you know, my old boss, Mike Florio, used to always be banging on about this. Oh, they're tampering in Indianapolis. Oh, can you believe it? agents are talking to players and teams are talking to agents.

37:00Ian Rapoport:And now it's like, no one cares. It's just the NFL was like, eh, we don't care, Florio. We're just going to allow this. What's the, what's the problem?

37:07Gregg Rosenthal:I mean, I, some rules are made to be broken.

37:10Ian Rapoport:I officially have no stance. It's like driving 75 in a 65.

37:12Gregg Rosenthal:Right. I officially have no stance given where I work. But I'm sort of not really sure I see where the problem is.

37:22Ian Rapoport:No, I don't think there is a problem. The only, yeah, the only, you have to have a start date at some point. So it's always going to be before that start date.

37:31Gregg Rosenthal:People are like, well, they should just open up free agency at the temperament. I'm like, okay, well, then they would just start talking.

37:35Ian Rapoport:And they kind of have, they kind of have done that. I'm going to throw out just some different names. Okay. See if any strike your fancy. Mike Evans, Rashid Shahid, Tariq Wooland, Aaron Rodgers. Like any of those stand out as like going to have particularly good markets, bad markets stand out to you. Could Evans actually leave for one?

37:57Gregg Rosenthal:I mean, anything could happen. He should finish his career in Tampa. I mean, he should. And I don't mean like he should. It just would be right in the world. Now, he might get enough dollars where he could go, and it'd be one of those like, you know, Emmitt Smith in a Cardinals uniform type deal. But the Bucs take care of their guys. I mean, they've had Levante.

38:19Ian Rapoport:I could almost see him with the Eagles if they traded A.J. Brown. You could see him with any team.

38:23Gregg Rosenthal:With the Chiefs. Literally any good team. That would be good. Any good team. Chiefs receiving core will be interesting to watch in general. Sorry, I asked a question in the middle of that.

38:34Ian Rapoport:It was Evans, Shahid. It was Reek. It was Rodgers.

38:37Gregg Rosenthal:Shahid should be a Seattle re-sign. I mean, that makes too much sense. Rodgers should be a Steelers only. For sure. What else did you say?

38:49Ian Rapoport:They should be a Malik Willis team, but I don't think they want to be. I said Tariq Willen The cornerback market is going to be interesting Have you heard of who is potentially At the top of that Some options Jalen Watson from the Chiefs Has had a good career Alante Taylor of the Saints Is an interesting player Jamel Dean is out there Nayshawn Wright made some all-pro teams This year And then Tariq Willen

39:15Gregg Rosenthal:So Tariq Willen is sort of interesting to me Because I thought last year midway through that Seattle was going to trade him. I felt like he maybe fell out of favor a little bit and like maybe the scheme wasn't great. But like he kind of kept at it and kind of started playing better. And then they were like, we cannot lose him. And that was interesting to me. And I don't know that he's staying, but like a lot of good tape at the end of the year on him. That should, I think he should have a good market. I think Jalen Watson has the potential for, to get a nice deal and people be like, who the heck is this guy?

39:47Gregg Rosenthal:Jamel Dean took a huge pay cut with the Bucs last year. which they wanted to start two young guys and came back with a excellent, excellent season. Like I could see him, maybe he goes back to the Bucs, anything's possible, but could be one of those final pieces to a good veteran playoff ready team. Like he's been through it. He's played great last year. Like he's a veteran, but not too, too old. Like, yeah. I'm making you work here. It's okay. Familiarizes me with free agency. Well, do you have some surprise?

40:16Ian Rapoport:Do you have something that you're like mentioning guys who people don't know that might get a ton of money. Does anyone pop up? I don't work like that.

40:23Gregg Rosenthal:They don't all, I don't. They don't all like swim around in my brain.

40:26Ian Rapoport:If you mention, I can respond. Yeah, I am like that too, where I struggle. I'm showing you the list. Boy, Mafia, I think is going to get a lot here. Devin Lloyd, I think will be good. Devin Lloyd will be good.

40:37Gregg Rosenthal:I'll tell you what, I mean, Isaiah likely is interesting too because he doesn't have the production, but that's obvious why he doesn't have the production. So I think he's going to do well.

40:45Ian Rapoport:I won't put you on the spot here. I have more specific stuff I want to get you before you go. Max Crosby like do you think in the end he gets traded

40:55Gregg Rosenthal:I don't know I really don't it's going to be a while because rarely do guys get traded when they are coming back from many month injuries and so that's why I thought, I mean who knows, maybe all my reports are dumb but I thought it was an important thing to report during the Super Bowl because I don't think people knew how serious his injury was, no he's doing great but like you know if you trade for him and then let's say you pay him you know somewhere around where Mike is getting like

41:25Ian Rapoport:you you want him to be healthy older player too yeah guaranteed money this year and then you'd

41:31Gregg Rosenthal:probably have to tack on some new stuff right but like you want him to be healthy so that might be like around the draft or maybe even before the start of the season it's gonna be so like the timing is no look he could get traded tomorrow who knows but the timing could be interesting because let's say it's before the draft. You've got Fernando Mendoza coming in. You've seen what this coaching staff and GM can do in free agency. They, I'm sure, are going to target an actually good offensive line. They're going to make it quarterback friendly. Defense, they've got some pieces anyway, but let's say they improve their team.

42:06Gregg Rosenthal:I wonder, and they're going to try to keep him. So at that point, does Max go, I want out, or does he go, all right, fine, I'm in one more year. Like, I don't know the answer to what he's going to say after all that.

42:18Ian Rapoport:I thought it was interesting. There was like a list of teams. This was from the NFLPA who have to spend a certain amount of cash this year, you know, to hit that three-year average. It's too complicated a rule that I don't totally understand to even get into here. But basically you have to hit an average of money that you've spent over a rolling three-year period. And the Jets, Saints, Seahawks, Raiders, both LA teams and Titans were the teams that have to spend over a certain amount of cash, like$50 million more than the rest of the teams. I mean, the Rams are interesting

42:51Gregg Rosenthal:because they have some of their own free agents who are going to get huge deals coming up, like the Kobe Turners of the world.

42:59Ian Rapoport:They could spend it on their own guys. Eventually, Jared Verse, yeah.

43:03Gregg Rosenthal:Verse would be another one. Puka. Puka. Interesting offseason for Puka.

43:09Ian Rapoport:I mean, it's just been an interesting... Why do you say that? No, it's just he's been in the news a lot. The internet loves him. I don't know if love is the word that I would use. Do you think DJ Moore gets traded? And have you heard anything about the Bears in particular who have a lot of cap issues? Not a lot of defensive backs coming back to their team. Like, kind of a lot going on. I think them and the Patriots are very interesting in, like, okay, how do you pivot off this surprisingly good year one with these new coaches?

43:41Gregg Rosenthal:Yeah, I mean, I thought, I think last year they did an underratedly awesome job. Didn't like what was out there in the offensive line market and said, you know, we're just going to trade for two guys. And I was, I thought, you know, Ryan Poles does not get universally loved. I thought he crushed it last offseason and set themselves up for big success. They'll have to make some decisions, DJ Moore. I mean, that one would make sense. But, like, could also make it work money-wise. You know, like, I don't know if you say to me, like, well, the Bears need to do this. Like, what do they need to do? I think have another good draft year.

44:18Gregg Rosenthal:And like, what do they need?

44:21Ian Rapoport:Pass rushers and defensive backs, because half of them are agents.

44:25Gregg Rosenthal:One of the top defensive back is their own free agent.

44:27Ian Rapoport:Yeah. Kevin, Kevin Byard is also a free agent. Think about it. Chauncey Gardner Johnson, who's lower on the list. But I don't know. Kevin Byard was like a minimum guy a couple of years ago.

44:36Gregg Rosenthal:He's and he's like the best dude to.

44:38Ian Rapoport:Jaquan Brisker is a free agent. They have a lot of work, and they're, like, way over the cap right now. See, I'm giving you good information. Are you, though? You could go to overthecap.com and find out about that. How about the Bills and the Chiefs? Do you have any, like, overarching thoughts of, like, the two most consistent teams in the AFC over the last handful of years and how they are going to attack this offseason? You mentioned earlier the Chiefs and the receiver group.

45:03Gregg Rosenthal:Yeah, I mean, I think, you know, I was not surprised that they shuffled their offensive coaching staff. I was not surprised they brought Eric Biennemi back. You know, there was certainly some frustration last year with the receivers. They fired the receivers coach. That generally shows that. Rasheed Rice, who's also been in the news some, on the football field is a very, very good player. But, like, inconsistency around. Like, Hollywood Brown, sometimes yes, sometimes no. Free agent. Taequann Thornton, I think he's going to have a nice market. But, like, they have a chance to kind of rebuild that with some really good mid-level guys.

45:41Gregg Rosenthal:Kelsey, you know, what happens there?

45:43Ian Rapoport:Do you think Kelsey and Rice are on the team?

45:48Gregg Rosenthal:My guess is probably, but I don't know why Rice wouldn't be. I mean, if you say, like, are they going to trade him? Like, I don't know that that would happen. And Kelsey, you know He's been seemingly pretty positive About the hire of Eric Biennium Making me think he's coming back But we like to work out a deal too And they got some cat problems themselves

46:10Ian Rapoport:You said you weren't surprised that they made changes Should that worry Giants fans That they now have the offensive coordinator No, no, no

46:18Gregg Rosenthal:The running back and receiver Position coaches I think Matt Nagy Intentionally put himself where he is I think he was with Andy Reid. I think they were really good until last year when they were not as good. And there was a lot of reasons they could be not as good offensive line. That's a mission. There's a lot of injuries, a lot of things. I think Matt Nagy wanted to be a play caller and was like, I'm going to take a risk, put myself out there and be a play caller and see if I could be a head coach, and that's what happened.

46:51Ian Rapoport:All right, it worked out. Yeah. A couple more for you. Is Christian Wilkins a name you've heard at all? He kind of was brought up on our show, and I was like, oh, yeah, Christian Wilkins, who was like top five on this list a couple years ago. I didn't know whether to put him in the top 101 or not. Is any team going to sign Christian Wilkins?

47:09Gregg Rosenthal:I don't know. I would need to look back at his contract situation and see. He's free and clear at this point.

47:17Ian Rapoport:The Raiders got out of the guaranteed money business. They're paying dead money to him. I don't know if the Raiders got out of the guaranteed money business. Usually are the one giving me information, but sometimes I'll send you and be like, hey, you should check on. Every once in a while. The Christian Wilkins thing. Now I'm blowing it because it's going to go on the podcast. But, you know, I was like, just do. No, I'll check. Just check on Christian Wilkins. If you send a tweet out about Christian Wilkins, I actually think it'll be a medium hit tweet.

47:41Gregg Rosenthal:You know, I think you're probably if he signs.

47:43Ian Rapoport:Medium. No, I mean, he was. No, I don't even mean signs, but just be like, hey, he's healthy. He's ready to go. There's some interest.

47:48Gregg Rosenthal:If he is, I mean, at the time, remember, it was a fight over surgery because he didn't want to have surgery. and they wanted him to.

47:58Ian Rapoport:Also, they... There was also a lot of stuff happening. There was a report that, yeah, there was teammates uncomfortable with him. I don't know if any of that was true. Was that this year? That was last season. Seems like a thousand years ago. You know what else does? The Starbucks incident that you had back at the Combine a year ago. I'm going there right after this. Are you worried?

48:21Gregg Rosenthal:I wasn't worried then. Why would I be worried now?

48:23Ian Rapoport:I thought it was like a little much the NFL network with, you know, so much going on at the company and everything decided to provide like a four man security detail everywhere you go. Just imagine afraid of, you know, big, big Jordan Schultz coming around the corner.

48:39Gregg Rosenthal:He is taller than me.

48:40Ian Rapoport:He is tall in general.

48:42Gregg Rosenthal:That was still the weirdest thing to it wasn't the weirdest thing to ever happen to me. But it was the weirdest thing to happen to me lately. That was still like people laugh at my reaction because I literally just stood there like this, like what on earth is happening? Because that's what I felt like.

48:55Ian Rapoport:You know, as someone who has annoyed a lot of people. No, I'm talking about myself. I'm talking about you, too. Yeah. And not the biggest guy. I have been in the situation, including even at work with an old. I'll say rival of yours happened once. And it is a tough situation because you're not going to. What are you going to do? You're just going to like try to talk, talk it out. In this case, you were very surprised by it. But, like, I know right away it's not going to help me out to, like, try to be the man here. I mean, that's not, I mean, I haven't fought in a very long time.

49:31Gregg Rosenthal:And it's certainly not going to be my world. I was just mostly confused. I kept being, like, Uber stock? Like, is that something that's in the realm of possibility that someone offers players Uber stock for scoops?

49:42Ian Rapoport:In hindsight, it's a bizarre story. Yeah, for some background, Jordan Schultz, who who also breaks news, does NFL news, confronted you with an accusation that you were telling people that he was trading Uber stocks for for information, which is which is a wild claim to just to just come out of nowhere. But I was trying to make the point, though, that you're going to be a free agent coming up soon. And just hear me out. You did a podcast with Andrew Machand, and he brought up how your contract's coming up soon. And you were saying you're excited that, you know, with this new ESPN world, maybe you and Schefter can be like, you know, the Avengers coming together.

50:25Well, we have me, Mike, Tom.

50:27Ian Rapoport:Right. Everyone. But, I mean, I'm just putting it out there. We have our iHeart executive here, Jason English. They've been great partners for NFL Daily. As you hit free agency, what about NFL Daily insider Ian Rappaport? You know, we could get in this mix. I don't know financially. Really?

50:47Gregg Rosenthal:What are we offering here? What are we talking about?

50:50Ian Rapoport:That's an off-camera conversation. But they've been great.

50:54Gregg Rosenthal:I used to have a podcast back in the day.

50:57Ian Rapoport:Right. We can give you – yeah, maybe you could have your own podcast. Could I take your place?

51:02Gregg Rosenthal:Maybe I could take Greg's place.

51:03Ian Rapoport:No, but you could have a regular part of it. You could be a regular part of it. Just a thought.

51:08Gregg Rosenthal:I have no idea what's coming. I am very excited about it, though. If the ESPN thing works out, I think the possibilities are really, really good. From what it sounds like, everyone should be pretty optimistic.

51:22Ian Rapoport:That's a good way to look at things and a good way, I think, for people. Also reality, I think. To look forward. Like sometimes you kill yourself worrying about things that you're not going to change the outcome of until they happen. So just be optimistic. I was optimistic about how long we would get Ian. And look, it happened. We didn't stop asking questions. Strong minutes. You had great answers. We will be here all week. There were some other minor news out there. And we'll hit all that on when Tuesday show with Jordan Rodriguez. We also are planning to have a couple of guests. Some GMs are going to sit down with us.

52:01Ian Rapoport:And so we'll go over all the news that is coming out of Indianapolis. For Ian Rapport, I'm Greg Rosenthal. And we will be back from Indianapolis on Tuesday.

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