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21:01Nick Shook:The old broadcaster jinx. I'm glad we're getting some clarity on the receiver position because this is something that we've discussed multiple times over the last few weeks just because it's been a battle royale at the position. So it's nice as you get close to your first preseason game that you start to get an idea of it. And I think it'll go a long way toward helping Drake May in his second year get on the same page with a lot of that group. I hope Drake May isn't being too careful too, like listening to him. It does seem like he's really trying to avoid interceptions and he said he doesn't want to run as much.

21:29And I'm like... Oh, come on. I'm sort of like fast forwarding to year three. And then it's like, yeah, well, last year I kind of learned I was being a little too safe. So this year I got to let it rip, but I want to run a little more. So let's not go through that process. A little Kyler Murray vibes there.

21:43Nick Shook:Be careful now. I want to run more. You're too talented for that. But supposedly he's looked really good. Then again, he's going against a secondary without Christian Gonzalez. He's still been out. And Carlton Davis hasn't really practiced at all since joining this team, which we're getting to the point where it's starting to be a little concerning to me. They have a guy, DJ James, who was a sixth round pick of the Seahawks last year, who is starting and actually has supposedly looked good. But they are rather thin at cornerback without those two guys. Also, Ramondre Stevenson, one of the worst fumblers in all of football, fumbled during that scrimmage in front of the crowd.

22:16So it's just like, come on, Ramondre. Let's wrap up with the Dolphins, the AFC East. Here's a take. I threw this out on Blue Sky. Quinn Ewers might have the most consistently positive camp reports of any rookie quarterback from the 2025 class. Name me another rookie quarterback with more consistently positive reports. I don't think you can do it.

22:42Nick Shook:I mean, I can't, but the bar is low. I mean, we haven't gotten... People kind of like what Jalen Milrow's doing lately with the third team that's getting better in Seattle. I don't know. Yeah, we're digging now. None of the rookies are looking amazing so far. Yeah, I mean, look, I know what Quinn Ewers did in college at Texas and everything else. I did not like his combine workout, and it'll be burned in my brain forever. So if he's actually figuring it out in Miami, good for him. But the bar is low. Right. And I always want to credit where I'm like reading this stuff or hearing this stuff. I saw a little bit of it in the Palm Beach Post, three yards per carry, who I gave a shout out to.

23:17And then they sent a tweet out with my clip. If you do that, you're always going to get mentioned. Absolutely. They just said he's looked really good, that they think they might have found something in Quinn Ewers and that he had a much better week than Zach Wilson. And that's just what you hope. Could you possibly find a backup quarterback late in day three? That's a huge win. Austin Jackson is their starting right tackle. He's going to be out a few weeks, but Mike McDaniel did say on Sunday that they're optimistic he will be ready to start practicing basically after cut down day. That's when they target him to return, so that'll give him about two weeks to get ready.

23:53So nothing major there. Darren Waller, we got all excited about his signing. He hasn't really practiced at all yet, so it's kind of on my radar. Aaron Brewer, their center, really hasn't practiced either. And then it's our weekly update of Tyreek Hill saying things that kind of crack me up but also make you say, hmm. He said this week, Shook, that he didn't really understand the Dolphins offense the last three years. What? But the new passing game coordinator, Bobby Sloick, has explained it to him, and now he actually kind of understands it, so it's going to really help him. And he's also never taken notes before, but that they're really up in their ante, the assistant coaches and his wide receivers coach.

24:36I forget the name now. It's not Wes Welker. Now they're taking notes there, too. So that's your Tyreek Hill.

24:41Nick Shook:So you're telling me that Tyreek Hill is basically who I was until about high school, didn't even study for tests and just would show up and everybody's all nervous. And then you'd look around and be like, what's going on, guys? We have a test today. Oh, we do? Like, what, now he figured out he needs to study? It's crazy that he's gotten to this point like that. And that, like, he said he, like, didn't really understand the concepts of the team, which to me is just crazy. But hearing a lot of good things about him and especially Jalen Waddell out there. So I actually weirdly do have some optimism, at least about the passing game.

25:14I did want to note Jalen Phillips has been out there practicing. And, yeah, the aforementioned three yards per carry, they've given him their practice player of the day twice. So he's reportedly looked pretty good. And Bradley Chubb is out there practicing. So that's something we haven't really hit, but the health of those two guys is really important. And I have noticed, too, Teron Armstead shows up there and is giving tips. Is he going to come back at midseason? Who knows? I don't really know. And a lot of Willie Gay pop. That was a free agent linebacker. I was wondering who would win their linebacker competition.

25:45A lot of Willie Gay pop so far for the Dolphins. I said we might do this show in under an hour. Nick, we are definitely not on pace. So we are going to take a quick break and we're going to come back and we're going to hit the rest of the news.

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29:04back on NFL daily doing the AFC notes here on a Sunday evening we'll be back with the NFC notes in the studio with the great Patrick Claiborne and a very important update on the naming of his fan club I put it to a poll on Instagram and we've got some exciting results And a reminder, everyone, go sign up and subscribe to 40s and Free Agents. My podcast with Daniel Jeremiah will be back this week. And Shooky, you're here. We're doing it every Sunday night. Next week, we'll have some preseason games to recap. But for now, we're talking your favorite division, the AFC North.

29:45Nick Shook:Yes, we are. Back to the North. And where else to start? But Baltimore. All right. Look, we talked about kicking competitions. It's over. It's over. John Hoyland's been released. Got cut Saturday. Tyler Loop still cooking. He's unofficially won the job. John Harbaugh has not confirmed that yet, but when you release one guy, I think it's safe to say that you found your kicker. He made all 11 field goal attempts at Sunday's practice. In the home digs, the friendly confines and the not-so-friendly confines to road teams, M &T Bank Stadium. So he did well there. He passed the test with flying colors, according to Harbaugh.

30:21Nick Shook:So good for that. Jair Alexander continues to look good. Like he fits in that defense really well, picked off his old Louisville teammate Lamar twice. And Chuck Pagano, by the way, senior secondary coach in Baltimore said, looks like he hasn't taken a day off when referencing that Jair hasn't played football since November. So that's also very encouraging. One of my favorite stories to track, lower level story, but could factor into their starting lineup. Andrew Voorhees. Remember, this is a guy who was going to be like a third round pick when he was coming into the NFL at a USC. He suffers the ACL tear at the combine, ends up going in the seventh round.

30:56Nick Shook:He is on track to win the center job over Ben Cleveland. He has the lead as of now, according to Harbaugh, which is something that's just it's heartwarming. I like to see somebody like that bounce back from something so devastating at such a pivotal part time in their career. And last but not least, as if the Ravens need another running back, they signed Dearness Johnson, formerly of the Browns. He'll he probably won't crack the final 53. I mean, he's battling for a spot with Derrick Henry and Justice Hill and Keaton Mitchell. So probably a bubble practice squad guy, but he got signed. So that's that's your latest news in Baltimore.

31:29Nick Shook:I love that. That gave me sort of a local radio feel. Speaking of one of the best in the entire country, Glenn Clark, my friend, Glenn Clark Radio dot com. If you're in Baltimore, you know him. He's the best. He said to me, Mike Green looks the part so far. Their rookie pass rusher who fell in the draft because of the domestic violence accusations and incidents and that, you know, they could really use a pass rusher. You mentioned Alexander, by the way. I hadn't seen the contract that he signed yet. The details hadn't been out there. They only paid, they're paying him$4 million. You know how we always do like, how he did it again?

32:08Oh, how'd you let the eagle in the draft? I think we got to start doing that in the offseason in August and July for the Ravens. Because it's always, it's DaCosta did it again. He'll sign some veteran or two every year between like June and August. They might have another one coming for very little money. And then they'll just get like 800 great snaps at it. So we got to bring DaCosta did it again. Ozzy did it again back in the day. They're always doing it again, this Ravens team.

32:40Nick Shook:they must be selling their culture and their history of being competitive because I don't know how else they convince these guys to take so little money to come play for them. But it usually works unless your name is Deontay Johnson, who they got in trade and couldn't keep convinced to get on the field. All right, let's keep it in the AFC North. We'll go to, well, the most depressing story in the division this season, which is the Browns. The quarterback competition, while interesting, has been a bit of a dud. None of the guys have really played all that well. Joe Flacco has gained a lot of ground.

33:09Nick Shook:It seems like he's the favorite to win the job at this point, especially with Kenny Pickett out. Pickett is participating in like limited fashion. He's not, you know, he said he's working 24-7 to get back, but he acknowledged that he's losing, you know, ground in this race. And I think it's fairly safe at this point to think Flacco is going to be the week one starter. Shador sat out on Saturday because of arm soreness, which caused everybody in attendance in the greater Northeast Ohio area to panic as if the Browns were sabotaging his attempt to win the job, which is hilarious in itself. and then at the same time it was Flacco and Dylan Gabriel you're only two guys available to participate in full team drills Dylan Gabriel has a couple of really really rough practices over the weekend so much that Kevin Stefanski had to like answer about it afterward he just struggled to complete passes consistently I saw a little compilation it was just like there's a miss there's a miss oh that was a nice throw there's a miss so it doesn't look good but what does look good for the Browns wide receiver Gage Larvadain say that name five times you're going deep yeah Yeah, he had a strong Saturday session.

34:07Nick Shook:He's had a nice little run of a few practices here, and it looks like he could make this final 53-man roster. And on the bad side, of course, they lost MJ Emerson to an Achilles tear earlier in the week. So that's going to hurt their strength of the team, which is their secondary. I hate to be a bummer because you want every team to have hope. This team obviously came into the year with some of the worst vibes, I think, in the NFL. And if you just look at real takeaways from the last month, there aren't many teams that have lost like multiple players for the season. You know, Jordan Hicks is not coming back.

34:45He retired. Martin Emerson was a starting cornerback, probably your second best one. Maybe was going to get a long term deal. It is not coming back. It's just depressing. and then you have this quarterback battle where Gabriel, per Zach Jackson, who covers them for The Athletic on his podcast, he said he had been at the point where he kind of feels sorry for Dylan Gabriel out there, just no confidence, like beyond awful was the word he used, like not anywhere close. Where Shadur is clearly more talented and just better, and it's weird because they're giving Gabriel reps ahead of Sanders because he was taken ahead of him.

35:28It's just like, why? And then it's in a week where Jimmy Haslam, the owner, said literally out loud that we have to play our rookies this year. Like, we have to play our rookie quarterbacks. You don't have to. I mean, if he shows that he can't play, then he can't play. And I don't think it shocks that many people that he's going to take some time.

35:48Nick Shook:Yeah, and you swung and missed at that point, which Jimmy Haslam already used that phrase to describe Deshaun Watson. I'm glad you brought up Zach, though, because I think that if you listen to his podcast, the tone of his voice, he's usually a reserved and very observant individual, somebody that I've known for a long time who I value very much. But the tone of his voice in his podcast kind of says it all. Like he even said it, the Browns are in a bad place. It's not going to get better overnight for them. So take a moment to listen to that Zach Jackson and friends. He does a great job of recapping.

36:18Can I give you some positives at least? I did ask our friend Andrew, too, and Andrew Siciliano, and he did point out Schwestinger and Mason Graham are having really good camps. And if you are a Browns fan looking for some hope and something to be excited about this season, if they can get this rookie class to be good between those two guys, and Dylan Sampson's going to have a roll-out running back, and Harold Fannin has reportedly made some noise at tight end, obviously the front office needs it, and they could really use Shadur showing up and the shoulder not being an issue and playing eventually, that rookie class is one reason to be excited.

36:57One last one, by the way, I did want to mention Mary Kay Cabot, legend, got the award at the Hall of Fame this week for service for her writing career. And while she was talking about how her career started out tough, that Bill Belichick was a tough coach to deal with at first. He would always give her a lot of grief. uh she had the one-liner of the weekend and that was well it makes sense now because i was 28 years old at the time and bill just couldn't relate to a woman that old fantastic no no it's great zing nailed it i'm sure she didn't expect it to become like national news and pick up by the new york post but good job by mary k cabot who's been doing a great job for a

37:43Nick Shook:time yeah fantastic love mary k uh another fantastic member of that beat and a uh a veteran of it which let me tell you what it's it chews you up and spits you out based on how this team has struggled over the last few decades but she's always been there and doing a great job uh let's go down to the other corner of ohio cincinnati uh home of the bangles where they've added tight end noah fant which felt like perfect like this is a team that picks up tight ends that bounce around This is a team that goes after a Mike Kosicki or a now I know a Fant. And they get them on a one-year deal worth up the$4.25 million.

38:16Nick Shook:So affordable as well and another weapon for Joe Burrow to work with. The big story, though, for this team, really encouraging out of camp this past week, has been their defense. Al Golden has taken over as defensive coordinator and his impact is starting to show. They've been remarkably competitive and they've talked a lot of trash. Burrow even commented on it after one of the sessions late in the week. He said the young DBs are really stepping up and making things tough. Both sides are going to make the plays, but the energy, physicality, knowledge of coverages has been top level. And that's exciting.

38:48Nick Shook:And that's huge for them because if their defense can come back to a competitive level, this team ceiling goes up dramatically. So it's very encouraging to hear now. Obviously defense is usually ahead of offenses at this portion in camp, but good things here. Like it's gotten to the point where the beat there is like, wait, is this defense actually good? So that's, that's good to hear right now. um offensively Amarius Mims dealing with a minor hand issue and has been replaced by Devin Cochran at right tackle during this portion and the feeling the most worry about this entire team has been their offensive line uh they lack experience they lack proven reliability it's going to be the big question mark for them so keep an eye on that uh because you know you got to protect Joe Burrow if he's going to take advantage of all that talent at receiver so we'll keep watching that like I like hearing that the young DBs are playing with some fire and talking trash with Jamar Chase and all this stuff.

39:38Josh Newton has really been with the starters and DJ Turner with the backups, but reportedly he had a good day. But I do kind of just think of the flip side that if the defensive line is dominating and on paper without Trey Hendrickson, it's not that good of a defensive line. Although you love to hear Shamar Stewart kind of showing up right away and making a big impact. Maybe that's just the offensive line is bad. And on paper, to me, it's bad. Other than Mims, who's, you know, exciting. and Orlando Brown is going to be fine at left tackle. He's a little overpaid, but he's fine. But it does make you worry.

40:09They're very thin up front, and could we be back to the same old Bengals issues with the line? I don't get that vibe that Joe Burrow is that worried about it, though. Here's just a very quick snippet for you, surprising you with this one, Shook, of him on NFL Network with our Tom Pelissero. For myself, I expect to be close to perfect. I think I'm at that level at this point. I understand the offense. We've been together for a long time. How good does it feel to be able to say, I expect to be close to perfect. At this point, I'm at that level. You know?

40:42Nick Shook:I mean, that is the confidence fitting of a man who dyed his hair, bleached blonde, and set off a trend last summer. It's just a confident guy. It's what you want. I mean, that he expects perfection, that he's at that level. And yeah, I love that. Yeah, yeah, I agree. All right, last team in the AFC North is, of course, the Pittsburgh Steelers, where they practice in Laetrobe, Pennsylvania, St. Vincent College. James Pierre, defensive back who's fighting for a roster spot, may have an opening to earn a place there, and it's a pretty deep secondary. Corey Trice Jr. suffered a hamstring injury, and that could open the door for him.

41:18Nick Shook:He's had some nice sessions at the end of this past week. Three interceptions between Friday, which they played under the lights, Friday night lights, and Saturday. Starting to make a difference there. We'll see if he can continue to ride that toward a roster spot. It sounds like this defense is ahead of the offense, which is very encouraging for them. We talked about this in the show last week that, you know, that defense just wasn't as good as it was expected to be over the last couple of years. And if they can, with the changes that they've made, if they can become that this year, then again, like the Bengals, their ceiling goes up a lot.

41:49Nick Shook:Patrick Queens feeling the good vibes about the unit so far. According to ESPN's Brooke Pryor, he said, I think we're farther ahead than last year, but still not where we need to be. which is good because even that kind of fits with what he said about himself last year. It felt like he didn't get to where he needed to be. And he entered this season feeling as if he was a step ahead or back on track. So now with all the good vibes in the defense, you have to keep an eye on Alex Highsmith who suffered what he thinks could be a possible groin injury. We're going to get more info from Mike Tomlin after further testing and everything that's expected on Tuesday.

42:20Nick Shook:So watch that one. Cause you know how important he is to that edge rushing group with TJ Watt, obviously being the headliner there. and last but not least um Isaac Samalo is starting to work his way back into the lineup they actually haven't gotten their starting five offensive linemen out there for a good portion of camp because he was on NFI he's come back from NFI he's gotten some work in some of these sessions so you're starting to get a better picture of where this offense could look starting with their front five yeah their left tackle Brodrick drones too has kind of been in and out I believe it's had some injuries and they really need him to be good here's what you're not hearing to me out of Steelers camp too consistently?

42:57Like a lot of Rodgers. Oh, Rodgers is cooking. Mark Caboli, who does a good job writing these long notes on Twitter for the McAfee show, he's noted some positives with Rodgers. Not like Rodgers is struggling, but I just feel like it's optimism season. And if Rodgers was super cooking, we would probably hear about it. It's a lot of DK pop. It's like a lot of slants to DK, a lot of yards after the catch. Calvin Austin might be the wide receiver too. Some Jalen Ramsey pop that he really looks good, which is always good to hear. But not a lot of like Rodgers pop yet. So just something to know. Actually, I did want your thoughts about the story in the middle of the week that they had a personnel package.

43:43Forget 12 personnel, which is, you know, taking over the league, which is one receiver, two tight ends. You know, get heavy. Start running. How about 0-4 personnel? No receivers, four tight ends on the field, with Jonu Smith in the backfield as the running back. Give me that.

44:04Nick Shook:Okay, Arthur Smith has been known to deploy non-running backs at running back. Cordell Patterson manned that role for him in Atlanta and in Pittsburgh. Cordell Patterson has since been released. Released, by the way. I don't know if we hit that on this show. Like, literally a guy who will get some Hall of Fame consideration just because he was the best special teams player of his era. We should have mentioned that. Thank you. Got fired on his day off. But we did talk about this tight end group, right? And how it's crowded. Like Pat Friermuth, Jonu Smith, Darnell Washington, who I learned last week has the nickname of Mount Washington, which is also a literal mountain in Pittsburgh.

44:37Nick Shook:Great nickname. And then Connor Hayward, who's been more of an H-back, but one of my favorites since his days at Michigan State. If you're going to find a way to use all these guys, you're going to keep all these guys, and you want to go heavy. Why not? Because a lot of these guys can make plays, and they're all kind of different archetypes. And if anybody was going to do it, it's the madman who has made having a mustache quite notable, Arthur Smith. And it makes you maybe a little less concerned about the receiver position. They couldn't find a wide receiver to fill in behind Metcalf, between him and Roman Wilson and Calvin Austin, which you would like.

45:11But maybe you're just going to play all those tight ends, because that is an awesome tight end room. Like, Darnell Washington, if we do making the leap on the show, is my Steelers making the leap guy. Like, I think his ceiling is higher than people realize. And then the other two tight ends are obviously productive, good players. All right, let's go to the AFC West. Let's talk Chargers. So we just saw them in the Hall of Fame game. Won't repeat what we said there. But one thing I didn't mention on that show was Keandre Lambert-Smith, who was the Daniel Jeremiah. He is a ball knower, I got to admit.

45:43He put him very high on his rankings. No one even knew who that kid was. Then suddenly the team he works for drafts him. And now he's playing really well, like making deep plays down the field. I didn't mention in that game, he had a really nice slant for a touchdown. Then he also had a had a long play. And that that note that Lambert Smith making some plays down the field is also repeated by our very own Jordan Rodrigue, who is giving us a camp correspondent bucket of notes here. She was at Chargers camp, so she just texted me something. So this is from her on Saturday. She said Cleo Mack looked fast, maybe that he dropped some weight.

46:25He's come into these last few seasons like so good, and then the wear and tear tends to wear him down. But she just says he looks really fast, looks good. She noted just seeing them in person. This has to be one of the biggest offenses in the NFL, which is true. They're just like massive. They're like bigger than the Chargers defense in some spots. It's true. Like their tight ends, their running back room, their quarterback room is huge. Like they're just huge. This is awesome. In Jordan's words, Trey Harris, he's got some to him. So I don't know exactly what that means, but I think that's a good thing.

46:56Trey Harris, that's what he's got to him. And yeah, Quentin Johnson at the X right now. No surprise there, but that's what he's got. That's a good thing. That's a compliment.

47:06Nick Shook:I agree. I agree. my favorite thing about this size thing that you just mentioned that Jordan mentioned is the fact that I'm at the Hall of Fame game Thursday night and I'm like I'm looking and I'm just looking and I'm looking and I'm tracking the man who plays fullback and also plays defensive tackle Scott Matlock he wears 44 it's a great football number and I'm watching him just dominate in both sides of the ball whether he's blocking it fullback like he personifies he embodies this mindset that I think Jim Harbaugh wanted to bring to the Chargers, which is toughness, toughness at the point of attack.

47:40Nick Shook:We're going to win in the trenches. We're going to wear you down. Who cares if we have a guy who's an awesome quarterback in Justin Herbert, we're going to win on the ground and with physicality first, and then we're going to throw the ball on you later. And you're right. It totally is visible in the roster construction, the way they look when they take the field. It's a bit of a throwback, but I like the approach, especially in a division that also has Patrick Mahomes. It's like the counter to that. Right. They don't make they don't make a lot of mental mistakes. They don't turn the ball over a ton.

48:09Like a lot of coaches talk like this. But Harbaugh, you actually see it literally everywhere he's ever been. It actually happens. It seems like it's happening here. It's happening again. I'm falling for the Chargers. Nico Reed, by the way, UDFA in that game had like a ridiculous game of pick six, knocked the ball out, special teams tackle. He seems like a find. And then they're starting Inside linebacker Denzel Perriman has been arrested for felony possession of a deadly weapon. That happened since Thursday as well. So that risks, obviously, some serious repercussions, whether it's a suspension from the league.

48:45Who knows? We'll have to track that. The one last thing here is we didn't talk about from that game the virtual measurement that they did for the first down. You were there live and in person. Thoughts on the virtual measurement.

49:04Nick Shook:It didn't take forever. I'm kind of accustomed to it now with all the replays that we get the NBA and how it stops the game incessantly. But there was a funny moment in the press box where they announced that they were stopping for virtual measurement, and somebody in the front row goes, for what? Virtual what? Like making a joke. So, I don't know. We'll see. We'll see how it works out this year. Also, the one they used it for, they were just trying it out. They tried it out last year, too, and it didn't work in the preseason. So I'm skeptical. I don't need the game being stopped more times than necessary.

49:38So you better have this locked down. Got my eye on you, NFL. Let's go to the Chiefs. This is a team kind of like the Bills where I don't have a ton from this week. I really check out Pete Sweeney at Arrowhead Pride who does a great job. And then just some of his camp notes that kind of struck me of just a talking point for the Chiefs is the cornerback position. He noted that Shamari Connor is kind of their inside guy right now with McDuffie and Jalen Watson on the outside. It's like, Trent McDuffie's way better in the slot. He just is. I don't think he's that special on the outside. I know he got like the all pro or whatever he got.

50:14Pro Bowl is like, that was a little maybe on reputation. When he's inside, Naze Johnson's on the outside. And it's like, those are two guys, Connor and Naze Johnson, who are both cooked quite a bit in the playoffs. like in the Super Bowl, they seem a cornerback short when everyone's healthy. That's what's crazy to me is like everyone's healthy right now. So to me, that's just something to watch. They're a great candidate to me to sign one of these cornerbacks that's out there. I would do that because, man, if they lost McDuffie or Watson, it's like, man, it gets kind of grim there.

50:49Nick Shook:Yeah, you know, when we talk about them finding ways to stay competitive over the last few years with roster turnover and everything else, the one area that it's kind of flown under the radar is the fact that they've cut corners in the secondary like no pun intended with corner and they made it work though right yes they made it work because they got the most out of guys like mcduffie but that that attrition year over year i think is starting to show at least at this like portion of the summer that we have a reason to finally be concerned about this and i agree with you but it also comes down to when you're looking at mcduffie because the fact that they hit on that you know a first round pick playing as well as he has um has helped them kind of, you know, navigate the choppy waters that come with roster turnover.

51:27Nick Shook:But I will say it comes down to what do you value more? An outside corner who's going to man up against the number one guy or a guy who's going to be an elite slot corner. And if you are not strong enough on the outside, you're not confident enough on the outside, then you're forced to do what they did with the offensive line last year, which is take your best corner and move him outside like they did with Joe Tooney moving him to tackle. So I agree with you. And I hate that you have to make that choice because it's robbing us of elite play. Even if it's just one step down, it's not quite as good.

51:53Nick Shook:but it does kind of just speak to where they are at the position right now. The salary cap makes it so hard because, you know, they got McDovey because of a brilliant trade. He came as a pick that came from the Tyreek Hill trade where they nailed it and they hit on him and Karloftis. But you got to pay those guys now. Like Karloftis has got his money and the cycle begins again. There's a guy who they've given some snaps, Chris Roland Wallace, a UDFA from a season ago that they're trying to roll in there. But you point in the offensive line, like now they've got almost too many starters. It's the same deal.

52:27Josh Simmons continues to be the guy at left tackle where the big$15 million man, Jalen Moore, is battling at right tackle and left guard. So that's a good problem to have. Sky Moore is back from an injury, but I think he's probably going to get cut. The second round pick from a few years ago, Taequann Thornton and Jason Brownlee are ahead of him. Let's go to the Denver Broncos. Zach Allen got paid four years, There's$102 million,$45 million guaranteed over the next two years. If he's on the roster a year from now, which seems very likely, it goes up to$60 million guaranteed. Sean Payton had a great quote on it, which is, periodically there's a player that comes up for a contract, and we just have to look at ourselves.

53:11If we aren't willing to pay him, who are we willing to pay? So I love it. They got ahead of it, even for a player that's hitting his 30s. and if you listen to around the NFL and now NFL daily man we were we were early on the Zach Allen train even in Arizona thought that was a great signing turned out to be one of the best free agent signings of the last five or six years so good on them he led the NFL in QB hits last year a stat I had to like reread I was like really Zach Allen led the NFL in that that's amazing so shout out to to them for being smart and for him to get paid yeah you can count me in that group

53:49Nick Shook:being on the Zach Allen train early, even when things weren't the best in Arizona or they were struggling defensively, he always stood out. It's crazy. You actually look at his stats and like, wait, he's only been a Bronco for two years because I feel like he's been there for a long time because he's just been that consistent over the course of his entire career. Set a career high with eight and a half sacks last year. Perfect dime to get paid. Sean Payton, take that knowledge to the team you used to work for way back in the day in Dallas. Send it right up the ladder to Jerry and Steven Jones.

54:14Nick Shook:Maybe they'll agree. Right. Right. It almost was like it was an indirect shot without trying to be shot. Riley Moss reportedly having a good camp. You know, it was a little up and down last year. Wasn't healthy as their second cornerback. Dre Greenlaw has been in and out of practice. They hope to get him back in about a week. It was good that he was back, but then he hurt his quad, but it's supposedly not serious. Drew Sanders is also at that position. He's out four to six weeks with foot surgery. Alex Singleton broke his thumb. He had a surgery, but he's going to be back. You know, that is a linebacker with a thumb injury.

54:45He'll be back, but a lot of injuries at the same position. Let's wrap the AFC West with the Raiders. So a week ago, I mentioned no one's stepping up behind Jacoby Myers at receiver, and I did get some notes from some Raiders. What about Dante Thornton? You're not paying close enough attention. It's like, no, I'm just reading the reports. But I got to say, in the last week, it does seem like Dante Thornton, a day three pick at receiver, is their starting X, which is interesting. Now Trey Tucker, according to Sean Reed, might be their wide receiver too in terms of snaps, but maybe that's sort of evolving into their top three, which is interesting.

55:25It doesn't include Jack Besch, a second round pick. And that's why I like watching these camp reports. So Dante Thornton, someone to keep an eye on, someone I don't know a ton about as a fourth round pick, but he might be their starting X to start the season, which is an important spot for them. And maybe they have a fine, we'll see.

55:41Nick Shook:Yeah, they need it. They need some sort of other option outside of Jacoby Myers. So that would be really encouraging. It would be a bummer if Jack Vash is not as involved in the picture, given the fact that you spent a higher pick on him. But that's the way the draft goes, man. People forget a lot of it is a crapshoot. And sometimes you realize that the guy you spent a day three pick on was actually better than the other guy, but nobody saw it. Nobody expected it. And then you get the results and benefit from it. And it's extremely early. Obviously, it can change over the next couple of weeks, much less the next couple of months, much less their careers.

56:12but he just might be coming along like a little slowly. The reason I wanted to mention that too, I think this was from Tashaun Reed at the athletic too, that Dante Thornton apparently was showing up in the quarterback's group, group text, whether it was Gino or Aiden O 'Connell said that, that like, Oh yeah, we were texting each other easy early. Like you can really trust this guy. And I was like, Oh, that's a good, that's a good sign that he's earned Gino's, you know, trust in the group.

56:38Nick Shook:It makes me wonder if Kyle Allen sends the same texts about receiver Dominic LeVette, who he targeted a billion times in the whole thing. And the Lions game. That's a deep cut. Surprising news that they have a new starting center, Jordan Meredith, a fifth year veteran, displacing Jackson Powers Johnson, who is a lot of people's favorite center prospect from a year ago. And now Powers Johnson is battling at right guard with Alex Kappa, who they brought in. I think this might be about like just getting the best five. And I suspect Jack, you know, powers Johnson gets that job and people who thought Alex Kappa was going to come in there and like save their offensive line.

57:16It, it didn't make a lot of sense to me if you've watched. Well,

57:20Nick Shook:yeah. And it reminded me of the, it's just kind of a lie that people tell themselves every off season, which is, Hey, we can rebuild this offensive line through free agency. And it's like, no, because there's not that many really reliable offensive linemen out there that you're going to end up, that are going to end up being worth that money. So this is another example of that. But it is interesting because Jackson Powers Johnson actually had a clip. I don't remember when it was from exactly where he talked about how he demanded to take the center job. He's like, I, you know, I won. I think it's a Remington Award, like top college center.

57:50Nick Shook:I know how to play the position. Give me the damn job and ended up taking it. Now, if he loses it, curious to see how it seems like he's lost it at this point. And maybe isn't like that is the position he wants to play. But Pete Carroll obviously is the one making those decisions. He's in charge. Lonnie Johnson who's a reserve cornerback defensive back broke his leg at practice this week you hate to see that Eric Stokes has been starting for them at cornerback to Camry and Richardson getting more first team reps battling with rookie Darian Porter I wanted to mention that because Richardson's cousin is on this Raiders team and is also geared up for a starting job a man by the name of Devin White, who Pete Carroll says is back to his old self.

58:34I'm filing this under, you know, I'll believe it when I see it in the actual regular season. It's not a great sign. Like the guys that they're starting, like Eric Stokes was like cornerback five or six on his previous teams. And he's like cornerback one here. We got Devin White who couldn't crack a rotation last year starting next to Landon Roberts. Like Pete's got to work some magic. But they're cousins, White and DeCamry and Richardson.

59:02Nick Shook:Stokes was a former first-round pick, too. Yeah, former Packers. You're buying. Yeah, you're leaning a lot on past pedigree in guys like White and Stokes. We'll see. We'll see. Maybe it turns out. Man, yeah, they're really fighting an uphill battle. I know everyone has so much Raiders optimism. And I look at this defense, and I think it's amazing to say, considering Max Crosby's on their team, it might be 32 in like overall defensive talent it's certainly close to the bottom it's really definitely lower third definitely lower third i mean lower bottom three or four no doubt all right let's take one more quick break and we will wrap with nick shook's favorite division on earth it's the afc seven

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1:01:50Back on NFL Daily, while we're taping here, we got some breaking news to us, to you. It's old news. It's a contract extension for one of the most underrated players in the entire NFL, Zach Seeler of the Dolphins, getting$44 million guaranteed on a three-year contract. That's$64 million. Very similar deal to the one that Zach Allen got. And I'm impressed. And I'm surprised the Dolphins forked over a really fair contract to a guy who's been one of their best players. So shout out to Zach Seeler for making it happen. One of the best players, period, on the Dolphins. All right, let's go to the AFC South, Shooky.

1:02:33Nick Shook:Those are my two favorite Zacks who play defensive line in the NFL, so good for both of them. All right, we start in Houston, where we didn't have a lot to talk about last week, except for the fact that they didn't have a lot of guys in camp. Well, I have great news. I have great news for you, Greg, because D 'Amico Ryans is a firm believer that the offensive line has figured it out. In one week, they went from being one of the most concerning points to focus on with this team to something that is now, quote, solidified, and that is because some players have separated themselves, according to Ryan's since they put the pads on.

1:03:05Nick Shook:Rookie tackle Ariante Urseri from Minnesota is included among their top five, which is interesting to watch because you like to see investment pay off immediately. But again, without proof that he can be that guy over the course of the season, we'll have to continue to track it throughout the year. The defense looks fantastic as expected. This is going to be, I think, the strength of their team. We knew how good they were last year. They're giving the offense trouble and it's not all the offensive line's fault. In fact, oftentimes it's not the offensive line's fault at all. It's just that their secondary is playing really well.

1:03:35Nick Shook:Kalen Bullock continues to ascend as he enters his second NFL season. He picked off C.J. Stroud in a seven on seven. He was one of my favorite defensive backs that flew under the radar last year. I'm very excited to see if he makes that sort of leap in year two. But they're so dominant that our favorite trash talker, C.D. Deuce himself, C.J. Gardner Johnson, said, quote, we on the ass. It's belt to ass, end quote. I mean, rinse and repeat. I feel like he's had that type of quote, or maybe even in that exact quote in every camp he's ever been in. I love C.D. Deuce. It's amazing how good they could be in the secondary because you think of Kamari Lasseter as this incredible rookie last year paired with Derek Stingley, and Bullock gets a little bit forgotten, but there's a writer for their team website that's good, John Harris, and he said he's as good, Kalen Bullock, as anyone he's ever seen with the ball in the air in terms of being a ball hawk.

1:04:30And I think Stingley obviously can do that, and C.D. Deuce can certainly do that. So it just sounds like a nightmare to go against. So it is funny to hear that they've kind of decided on their offensive line, and no huge surprises, like Cam Robinson, Laken Tomlinson, and you mentioned Ursary's the most interesting, second-round pick who's going to start. But you hear them, that's solidified. At the same time, you hear that, like, Will Anderson is just absolutely destroying every single practice, and defense is absolutely dominating, and there just hasn't been a ton of juice from the offense in general.

1:05:03I am a little concerned about the drop-off from Nico Collins to basically anyone else as a pass catcher, although Ryan's talked up Dalton Schultz a little bit this week, saying that he looks like the guy we expected coming out of Dallas, which almost felt like a shot that he hasn't necessarily been. but D 'Amico Ryan keeps it real and I think that's true. I think Schultz underperformed a little bit and maybe he looks better now.

1:05:29Nick Shook:Yeah, I also feel like they didn't quite I mean, 85 targets last year, but I felt like they didn't quite prioritize him in that offense as best as they could, but they changed offensive coordinators. He didn't make you say, like, wow like, he had some really nice plays with the Cowboys whereas last year he just seemed like just a guy. Yeah, he was a secondary figure there. Alright, let's keep it in the South, of course and we're going to go to Indianapolis where bad news, unfortunately. um savan akhmed suffered a severe right lower leg injury uh it sounds like it was due to a hip drop tackle in practice he was carted off immediately taken to the hospital for x-rays sounds like that's going to be a season ender a bummer for a team that could use some quality depth behind jonathan taylor because of his you know lack of consistency in terms of the health department over the last few years but you just hate to hear that with any guy in camp having an end in such a fashion but on the bright side the QB competition not separating but getting better uh more encouraging results Anthony Richardson goes 14 for 18 unofficially of course as everybody's hand tracking these on Thursday night he threw a couple of touchdown passes he threw a beautiful deep ball to Ashton Doolin he threw for a touchdown he threw another beautiful deep ball to AD Mitchell who needs to make some strides in his second season um Richardson wasn't perfect of course he kind of flopped in an end of game scenario I think they put like 46 seconds on the clock that sort of thing daniel jones is a little bit better in that portion he finished 22 for 27 and threw a perfect pass to ad mitchell uh who sounds like he you know might be coming around a little bit uh but there's no separation like i said and i think the real test of this battle is going to come up against quite an opponent in baltimore when they have joint practices with the ravens uh other injury related news zyra franklin returns to the field for the first time after undergoing off-season surgery jalen jones has a concerning hamstring injury So both sides of the coin there.

1:07:16Nick Shook:And last but not least, of course, the first round pick, tight end, Tyler Warren. He's balling. He made a great juggling catch that they put, they set to cinematic music that they put on Twitter, which was, it's a fun watch. Go check it out. It's beautiful. If you're watching on NFL Daily, you can see the play. We'll take the cinematic music out of the mix, but was an incredible catch on a, not a great throw by Daniel Jones. It does feel shook like the quarterbacks have been, at least according to the people watching, probably a little better than expected overall. Now, I look at the cornerbacks that are not there for the Colts overall, and there should be a lot of mismatches for them to pick on.

1:08:01but overall I feel like maybe we're at a slight pleasant surprise on balance with Richardson maybe having the slightest of leads Shane Steichen had a quote during the week that said I think everything's cleaner now talking about Richardson, he's playing at a high level, he's making good decisions with the football taking completions when needed it's been really good to see, now he followed up that good scrimmage you mentioned with supposedly his worst practice of the entire training camp but then followed that up with Sunday looked better. It's a process. I'm following these every day. And on balance, I think that's the big takeaway.

1:08:37And I saw this note from Indianapolis stars, Nate Atkins, where he was like, yeah, Jones has been really solid, but you just kind of want to see him just rip one occasionally. Just go for it. And I'm just thinking like, yeah, welcome to Daniel Jones ever since that rookie year. That rookie year, I'm telling you, you go back, he was ripping it then. something happened where whether it was injuries or Dable programmed it out of him I've never seen that guy again uh so you're gonna be waiting a while and uh right now I think if it's tied it's

1:09:08Nick Shook:gonna the tie is gonna go to Richardson yeah because they have more invested in and they need him to prove it so I agree with that uh finally well we got two more teams left in the AFC South Jacksonville Jaguars were you know of course the main focus is still on Travis Hunter but a little bit less than before we do have to give a snap update he played 38 snaps uh at their scrimmage at their stadium 17 with the first team offense 21 with the first team defense so he's still very much doing both sides of the field um and it'll be interesting to see again how this plays out in an actual game he caught three passes for uh 43 yards including a 21 yard reception um and overall got positive marks from liam cohen who said i thought it was great we got him the work that we wanted to get him on offense early and then able to get him on defense and get him enough reps that's pretty stock there uh not so promising for a guy we love brian thomas jr uh up and down week for him he had a great day friday six catches 65 yards couple of touchdowns and then saturday you understand how fleeting success can be in the nfl he'd struggled with some frustrating incompletions at one point i think he took the ball after a play and threw it like and it hit a bystander in the leg just because he was that upset with uh how things have been going.

1:10:20Nick Shook:So I think that there's still progress to be made. Now, could that suggest the defense is playing better? Yeah, but I think I know enough about the Jaguars over the last few years that they probably still have a ways to go offensively. And then in the injuries department, Basial Tootin, the rookie running back, held out of Thursday's session with a hamstring issue. Always got to be a little bit worried about that. Linebacker Dennis Gardek has a knee issue as well. So keep an eye on both of those. Right. When you hear that about Brian Thomas Jr., I never know what to think like does this matter a lot because you're right it's been a steady drumbeat like a lot of drops and by him like all camp like he's not having a great camp for a guy that there's a lot of pressure on to be a top 10 type of receiver because that's the type of talent that he showed i tend to not be too worried about it if it's just drops in concentration like he's shown he can play when it really matters.

1:11:15John Shipley, who's really good covering them for SI.com, said he thought this is one of, if not Trevor Lawrence's, best camps. And so that's notable to me. He's been at all those camps, and he's a new head coach. It's a good sign because, in Shipley's words, he thought, well, maybe Lawrence isn't always been the best at practicing. He's more of a gamer. And I get that. but I also think well what truly great quarterbacks aren't great practice quarterbacks like I don't think there's many put it that way for the most part if you are going to be a great NFL quarterback you're going to be dominating and you're going to be extremely consistent in practice so so it's I think that's a really good sign though that that he's been better and it does feel like the game is slowing down a little bit for Hunter in terms of the playbook like that's what brian thomas jr said too he's starting to pick it up and by all accounts like hunter had his best days of camp day after day after day like on both sides of the ball that it's like it's happening for him now which is just very exciting i think hunter because of the athlete

1:12:27Nick Shook:that he is and just the football player that he is he's going to be a camp star annually until it gets to the point where he doesn't have to take as many reps just because he's that type of football player but it is interesting to me because this is now the latest test of how productive and how believable is the tampa bay buccaneers offensive coordinator to head coach factory how how how much can we rely on that pipeline you know is this glenville high school to ohio state in the early 2000s or not because you saw what dave canalis did with bryce young and carolina last year albeit he had to bench him and then bring him back later but now the test is for liam cohen and there's no better situation for Liam Cohen to prove that yes, that pipeline is strong than by turning Trevor Lawrence into something that we've been waiting for him to become for the last three years.

1:13:10Nick Shook:So if it starts in practice where he's suddenly become a better practice quarterback, then maybe the results are ahead for us. Of course, it remains to be seen. Yeah. I'm also a little concerned Arik Armstead is never healthy for them. Still hasn't practiced in team drills at all. So just that move has not worked out for them so far. Just something to watch no i mean when he was in the super bowl with the niners a couple years ago i i remember him like that week talking about how he's he was hurt all over like so it's just kind of a and it's a position that's tough on the body uh all right finally in the afc south we go to tennessee where we probably shouldn't be surprised that the defense is still ahead of the offense how ahead of it you ask well cam ward has a great description of just how ahead they are i just think we're very mid right now from my position to to up front to the receiver's position but at the end of the day it all starts with me I just I just don't think we're we're at where we need to be but we got we got a little bit of time and so every day we get better as a whole we're a young team but that's no excuse that right there falls in line with what we did last week we talked about aura can we use the term aura can we use the term mid for those who are unfamiliar with the term mid is just like average, just not impressive, just very forgettable.

1:14:25Nick Shook:That's basically what he's saying about the offense right now. So not encouraging, but at least you're hearing a rookie quarterback admit, you know, not fault, but that they need to be better. I like that out of a young guy like that. Here's the thing about mid, though. Like mid has come to mean bad. Bomani Jones has a great rant about this. But mid is supposed to be mid. You know, it's supposed to be average. You know, I believe it was, you know, initially used to be, you know, describing the, you know, the$40 baggie you're getting, you know, that might have a little too many seeds in it. But mid is supposed to get the job done.

1:15:02It's not supposed to be the worst thing in the world. I would describe what we've heard about the Titans offense, including Sunday, by the way, Cam Ward was five for 14 in team drills, according to titans.com. and I go through and there's a lot of those ugly, crooked numbers. That's not mid. That's worse. Like, that's bad. Mid would just be like what's going on at Colts camp is probably mid. You know, it's like, it's been pretty decent. It's been fine.

1:15:28Nick Shook:Now, unlike Aura, this was a very accurate description and discussion on the term. And I thank you for that. You know, a real pro, as always. And I agree. It comes with a negative connotation, but you're right. This is worse than mid. So hopefully they get beyond mid and suddenly upgrade, but it takes time. It'll get you by. You know, let's not be... It'll do the job, but it's not going to blow your socks off. No. He's not throwing picks as often in practice, which is great, because that was the issue last week. Brian Callahan's still pretty annoyed by them. He's unloaded on them a few times in practice.

1:16:01Nick Shook:He made them run at the end of Saturday's session, which is, like, very old school, and also, do we really need to do this unless... I think back to 2019 when I was working with the Browns and Freddie Kitchens was a coach, and there were so many fights during practice that he made them run gassers in the middle of a highly attended practice, which led to another thing that I won't discuss at this point that happened during those runs. But that pointed to me that like, oh God, maybe this team's in a bad place because he couldn't keep control of them. I think Callahan's just frustrated because he feels the pressure already.

1:16:28Nick Shook:They are going to have a big test when they do joint practices with the Buccaneers this week. We're going to find out just how mid they are because right now... Yeah, I read from Paul Kaharski just not a lot of juice at their camp. like they had something in front of the fans at the stadium. It was like extremely hot, but, you know, the fans aren't really showing up. There's not a lot of juice maybe within the team. There's actually not almost any position battles, which is weird for a team so bad. So usually that's sort of where the competition, just not a lot of juice from the Titans right now.

1:17:05Legereus Sneed is still out. You know, we need a little more juice. I mean that throw to Cam Ward I mean that throw to Sound that had some juice that was professional I see your development I love it alright before we go I just want to say congrats to the four gentlemen who went into Canton over the weekend Antonio Gates did it like nobody else stepped into the league and was immediately one of the best tight ends for a decade straight. Sterling Sharp finally getting in. I love a guy who has a great peak. I think he waited too long, frankly. I'll take a great peak over a longevity guy, maybe the best receiver top three or four, certainly in the time he was in the NFL.

1:17:56Eric Allen, the former Eagles player and Saints player who rolled up a lot of interceptions. I was like, man, if Eric Allen makes the Hall of Fame, I'm like, Asante Samuels is kind of similar in terms of just like racking up interceptions, but probably not going to happen. And then Jared Allen, shout out to him. I always remember, you know, I was covering the league early. One of the first guys that was really outspoken about holding out, getting, you know, very, like held his ground to the point where he got traded from the Chiefs to the Vikings. It was complicated because he earlier in his career had had a couple DUIs and was suspended from the NFL, which is really serious.

1:18:40But just an interesting player who talked about sobriety and at a time where that wasn't the norm, about that he had to clean up his life and get sober. And he had a great Hall of Fame speech. So did Sterling Sharp. What he talked about in terms of brotherhood was really great. So congratulations to all of them. And yeah, Allen, just like a little different, like was early on player empowerment, early on being open about his battles with his demons, and obviously he came out in Canton. And so congrats to all them, and to you, Shooky, for being in Canton this week.

1:19:18Nick Shook:And I got to give a shout-out to Antonio Gates, of course, because he is the pride of Kent State University, baby. He never played a down-to-college football, and he ends up in the Pro Football Hall of Fame. That's right. He was the first of the basketball player-to-football player transition. You didn't know him, though, did you? He's before your time. No, he's much older than I am. But I remember watching him lead the Kent State basketball team to the Elite Eight in the NCAA tournament. Well, this is where our age difference, you know, because he's younger than I am. So, great player. Yeah, you were out of college when he was in college.

1:19:49I thought it was very cool that Matt Money Smith's call of Antonio Gates breaking the tight end touchdown record was the last thing that you heard before Antonio Gates came onto the stage to reveal the buzz. How cool is that, Matt Money Smith? It's going to happen again, too, when Phillip Rivers makes the Hall of Fame, if I have anything to do about it. We went way over what I expected, but it was great talking to you, Shooky. We will be back on Monday. Like I said, me, Patrick Claibon, the entire NFC. Man, when we're glazing up the Chargers, when we're bored by the Titans, when Shookies throw into sound like a pro, man, football is back.

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