Christmas Games Recap and Lamar Jackson's Future

25:37Will Gavin:all of a sudden yeah traditionally they also load up on these under you know powered quarterbacks and destroy them and i and look if you give up 140 yards it's tough to kill kill the defense but i'm with you that you do wonder if a little bit of vance joseph's play calling magic is starting to run out in terms of the league catching up with them and they're gonna have to go up but again some really good offenses depending on the matchups and that's why it's so like important in the AFC what the matchup is. Cause I, I think they're, they're going to be more vulnerable to a team that I think has a loaded offense.

26:17Will Gavin:Then, then the vice versa, then being able to like play a team, like let's say the chargers or Texans who are, you know, not as good on offense. So if they play the bills and the Patriots, can they keep up in a shootout? That's a fair point. Yeah. The Casey was playing two tackles that did not play tack high school football, which is interesting. It was their fifth and six tackles. Essa Pole and another gentleman that now is escaping me that I wasn't familiar with. You mentioned Kelsey. Could be his last game was pretty interesting that Patrick Sertan was on him for most of the game. And so he was quiet relatively at a couple of catches early.

26:54Will Gavin:He ends up with the most targets, the most catches on the team. But that's only five for 36. he spoke after the game you know about a night where you know they introduce him last and he's getting emotional and if it was the last night it kind of felt like it no the only time it ever crossed my mind is i was driving in the other day and i saw how much the powerball was and i was like man if i could just win that i wouldn't have to work another day of my life no man uh honestly i've been just focused on trying to win football games man i let that be a decision that i make with my family friends the chiefs organization um when the time comes we'll see i don't know by the way i think they've got enough money in the kelsey household that that that documentary has played in my house over the uh recent week or so and yeah watching it back I'm like yeah I think he's gonna be fine um I do question though like as much as he's obviously like a walking hall of famer I don't think anyone's questioning his place in in NFL history and what they've achieved but how much does it say about this Chiefs offense right now that Pat Sertan was matched up on Travis Kelsey yeah a lot last night I think seven occasions he was targeted twice of those one reception 11 yards like I know that Travis Kelsey has been their best receiver for a long time, but there just doesn't feel like, I don't know, it feels like there's a lot with this Chiefs team that has to happen.

28:29We were just talking about with Lions and Vikings, which of those teams you think is set up to bounce back quickly next year. I really like, I think it was Ollie said this on, I can't remember if it was on your show or on his own show, but they need a new voice in the room. They need somebody there who's going to try and shake things up a little bit, actually help with the run game. And I don't know, this Chiefs team right now, as much as this was a fun performance last night we've just picked apart why the defense is going to be great next year without major investment they're losing travis kelsey like outside of mahomes what are we excited about about this team next season yeah yeah xavier worthy has not really

29:04Will Gavin:stepped up they had put rishi rice on injured reserve like the biggest play they had on offense was a pass interference to worthy they actually did not complete a air yard pass over 10 yards It's only the 10th time that that's happened all season long. The tackle, I feel bad when I don't want to name a man. So it was Chudwa Buka Godrick for the Chiefs playing in his first game. And yeah, you're right. The pass pro wasn't really a problem. Nick Benito's been pretty quiet. He was very hard on himself after last week's game, saying that he thought he did not play well. And they have been relatively quiet.

29:42Will Gavin:Shout out to the crowd in this game. I just want to give a little bit of love that like they were live. They were in it. They just found out that they're moving the team. You know, I know it's only 20 miles away, but there's a lot of Chiefs fans that are not happy about that. It's Christmas night. This team is out of it. And I think the home team gave him a good show. They're like showing my homes up in the booth, and he's cheering after the first touchdown. um i just give give them some credit uh as good fans on a on a the end of a tough season they got a lot of stick a few weeks ago as well for that chargers game where there were a lot of people who left early in a three-point game and so yeah they they yeah they deserve a little bit of praise because generally i've been there before it's a pretty great crowd but there's some people who maybe think they've rested on their laurels a bit it's one of one maybe it's i mean lambo is its own thing, but Arrowhead is such a unique, great atmosphere, and they're going to have it for, what, four or five more years here, but there just aren't other places like that, and ultimately, Broncos fans, you're listening.

30:51Will Gavin:Bo Nix is playing well. I think he's playing his best part, his best football of the season right now. You did what you needed to do, and who cares about style points? Let's take a break. On the other side, we are going to talk about the Cowboys-Washington game, but I'm even more interested to talk about this Amar Jackson, John Harbaugh, Raven situation. We will wrap with that.

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35:35Will Gavin:Book today. Shotgun snap. Prescott. Steps up into the pocket. Fires down the middle of the field. Hits Turpin straight at the 40. Running away from the defense. Turpin to the 20. The 10. Touchdown, Dallas. Kevontae Turpin if it stands an 86 yard touchdown grab but there is a flag down back at the 11 yard line. Defense number four that penalty has declined results of the play touchdown. It stands and Kevontae Turpin with an 86 yard touchdown grab breaking away from the defense and breaking open this game. It's 20-3 Dallas with seven minutes to go in the second. Woo! That Cowboys offense. I will miss watching them.

36:22Will Gavin:That's J.P. Shadrick on Westwood 1. Rather, that's Jason Horowitz, our friend on Westwood 1. They scored three touchdowns, three possessions to start the game. Kevante Turpin, I've always wanted you know, let's build a little more of the offense around one of the fastest players in the league, but whenever they try, it doesn't quite work, so maybe one catch, 186 yard touchdown is the perfect way to use them the cowboys hold on in the second half to win 30 to 23 um this is what i want out of a meaningless game in terms of playoff you know scenarios to start off christmas day if we're gonna have no playoff scenarios just give me a lot of offense early and that's what we got from the cowboys yeah cowboys get out 21-3 lead early doors and Dak Prescott's looking absolutely sensational through this game they converted six fourth downs successfully they ran 87 offensive plays to Washington's 41 and they beat them in time of possession by 17 minutes like how is this game a one score game at the end of it is what is beyond me because Dan Quinn always finds a way to like make it look closer than it really was he kicked that field goal at the end and then kicked it off which wasn't a crazy decision over two minutes to go.

37:39Will Gavin:It was probably his best chance to win was hope to get a three and out. And of course they could not get a three and out. And the, the Cowboys finished the game with the ball. Yeah. You know what I was thinking about during this game? You know, we think about on these holidays, like the past and generations before us and stuff. Let's think about Marty shot. This was a Marty shot in the Heimer game. You bet. The first two drives had 30 plays, but for the Cowboys, That's the longest any first two drives have been all season in the NFL. They finished with 44 rushing attempts for 211 yards. Just outrageous.

38:15Will Gavin:They lose Javante Williams to a neck injury at halftime, and yet it didn't really matter. Malik Davis, who was getting the ball in the first half quite a bit, goes over 100 yards on 20 carries. They're giving the ball to Hunter Lipke, their fullback, as a real tailback. They didn't have anyone else, Will. and they picked up a third and eight run at one point to Lipke. It was like a give up play or a set up the fourth down play, but they just got the first down anyways. And they only punted one time, the Cowboys. And that was because George Pickens dropped like a easy throw from Dak Prescott on third and eight, which had CeeDee Lamb reacting like either he was mad that George Pickens dropped it or this is on my radar a little bit.

38:55Will Gavin:Maybe he was mad that the ball didn't go to him. And I'm just kind of watching that as George Pickens continues to outproduce CeeDee Lamb. But yeah, they completely dominated this commander's defense all day. Yeah, and that's personally on the commander's defense, which we'll get on to. But shout out to, you mentioned, Marty Brian Schottenheimer has been as surprising and impressive as a head coach performance. I think of people that were appointed last season, as I think we've really seen this year. And him and Clayton Adams between them, they got in their bag. They recognized that you were able to run on this commander's defense.

39:26and all this interior stuff as well. And they basically just went like draw, trap, power. Like, we're going to throw absolutely everything at you we've got in our bag. And it's just going to just crush you, just completely batter those doors down. Malik Davis, I saw he had 103 rushing yards. About 93 of them came on inside carries. It was just, you know, it's meant to be the inside carry, set up the big outside plays, and that's where we'll get our big plays from. And nope, they just ran it up the gut time and time again. And Washington don't bring a lot of guys to the line of scrimmage. That's part of how that Dan Quinn defense is set up.

40:04But we just talked about with Kansas City, them needing a new voice in the room desperately. We were in Madrid when Dan Quinn took over the play calling from Joe Witt Jr. And I was watching back the last few games, kind of preparing for, right, what could Dan Quinn throw differently? at this defense that Joe it hasn't been and Joe it was basically calling Dan Quinn's defense like to the letter none of the play calling has changed at all it's still a throwback to the early 2010s Dan Quinn defenses of that kind of Seahawks mold etc and I don't know they just when you're that predictable you've got to have great players and instead they're mostly slow and old at this point And I don't know.

40:50It's it's difficult to watch.

40:51Will Gavin:It really is. And they're two years into this. So the fact that Dan Quinn's defense has stunk both years because they basically stunk last year, despite making the NFC championship, is concerning because they don't have schematic answers. They certainly don't have answers on personnel. Everyone's old on that defense, except for Jerzon Newton. Johnny Newton was the nickname as a draft pick who I was really high on at the time. Three and a half sacks in this game and another few quarterback hits. The crazy thing is Dak Prescott took six sacks in this game. A lot of sacks, considering their pressure rate wasn't that high, but he was trying to make the big play.

41:25Will Gavin:And you asked, and TJ Batt, they had some replacements on the offensive line. You asked, how was the game close when the Cowboys were so dominant offensively? Well, it was because the Cowboys' defense was on the field. And Washington did pop a couple good runs, and Josh Johnson looked pretty good. Let's actually listen to probably what will be our last Bill Krosky-Meritt call of the year. Josh Johnson under center for a first and 10 with a handoff over the right side. Krosky-Meritt breaks free. He's at the 50 down the far sideline. They won't catch him. Inside the 10. Angling in zone. Touchdown, Bill.

42:04His second touchdown of the day. He just rolled the sleigh 72 yards here on Christmas Day.

42:15Will Gavin:That laughter, by the way, is our friend Ross Tucker, who will be joining us on the Super Bowl call. They got something in Bill. Both his touchdown runs were awesome. Like, Bill is who people think Isaiah Pacheco is. He's got to be a role player, but here's a young player that you can have. And it might be 12 carries a game. Like, maybe he's not playing every down or whatever, but he makes people miss. Watching the prime vision, by the way, for that Chiefs game, I mean, Pacheco cannot find a hole. like he has the worst vision of like any starting running back they actually did a great job that's beside the point uh blowing open holes but so did the commanders a couple of nice runs there by the commanders that that's how they kept it close as the cowboys enter in offseason where they got to figure out a lot on defense i thought quinn and williams and kenny clark flashed in this game i mean kenny clark cap it next season is ridiculous so there'll need to be some reworking there it was the jadavian clowny game a guy who i know you've had the back of for a very long time six pressures one and a half sacks he did well in the run game as well so like he had a decent game but yeah they um i don't know not ben don't break quite but they just they seem to once they were up 21-3 maybe a little foot off the gas pedal they were bad the whole time this is actually one of the worst eber flus games of the season because the commanders only had eight possessions even at halftime will like the commanders had only had the ball three times and they had driven you know they had 10 points which points per drive that's excellent that's leading the league you know josh johnson averaged over eight yards per attempt they averaged eight yards per play on the cowboys i know it wasn't perfect like they had a couple punts but they they weren't making mistakes josh johnson i thought if he wanted to earn another year in the nfl um i mean he's certainly another Yeah, I mean, he's 39 to 40 years old.

44:08Will Gavin:He's been in the NFL or been in professional football like 17 years. But yeah, he could come in. The reason I called for that highlight, I totally forgot, was that was a funny moment in the game because I don't know if you had this. You had a different situation on Netflix. But Clinton Portis was like part of the broadcast at that moment. And Netflix was popping in old stars throughout the day, giving it kind of a preseason vibe. But they had bad connections. It was a bad idea. But the best moment of the day in terms of the guests were Clinton Portis popped in. First of all, just love hearing him.

44:42Will Gavin:And literally one play in, Bill pops that run. So it was like the vibes of Clinton Portis led them to a touchdown. We got the ones where they were on the call. So like Chris Carter popping up in the Vikings game randomly, for example. We did get a few of those, but nothing in the interim. We got our little Scott Hansen, Kyle Long, showing us tweets from all around the world and telling us how football works, which was... okay okay well you're an expert but no no i i tell you i i was i was listening to the great man ross tucker that's what i was doing and listening to the west we just had commercials so i guess that you know that was the difference is you don't get uh the commercial so yeah uh rough game and like washington didn't have two of their offensive line and beadish got hurt in this game tunsel was out for this game and so that's why i think it was even worse by the the cowboys defense uh week 18 you know they're they're going to be in the mix for draft positioning I'm in the mix to at least save myself and get to that 8-8-1 that I've been saying since the day they had that tie.

45:41Will Gavin:I said, this team, I don't know how they're going to get there, but they're going to get to 8-8-1. It's going to be annoying, but it will happen. And they have, I believe, the Giants next week. So they got a chance to do it. Jake Ferguson and Javante Williams got hurt in this game, so it'll be a little higher. If not, I think I have to do something for Nick Wright. like put up the his his signage of his show in the background of our show something like that so i need them to get that eighth win for me i think they can do it you say that you you did obviously this is from your over under draft with yes we did a similar thing uh on uh on talk sport where we were looking through those records and i uh very famously for amongst my friends uh went on air earlier in the year and went are you really telling me that a 15 win team are going to drop down to eight and a half wins because they lost sam darnold banged the over on eight and a half on the vikings well it turns out that if they beat the packers in the last week of the season scraping in at the last second that was one of my draft picks too i i had my worst year ever doing that so uh that was disappointing all right that's the cowboys win they're up to seven eight and one uh now it is time for quarterback keeper presented by snapdragon i i said we'd finish the show talking a little Lamar Jackson.

46:56Will Gavin:He's doubtful for Saturday night, so very unlikely he plays that game. Very unlikely, I think, that they win that game with Tyler Huntley, and so then you kind of think Lamar Jackson's season is probably over. We've been talking about the possible sayonara for John Harbaugh on the show now for a couple weeks. I think it's time. Mike Preston who has been writing columns for the Baltimore Sun for a couple decades wrote a fascinatingly timed one after Lamar Jackson was already missing practice that he thinks Lamar Jackson and John Harbaugh could be headed for a breakup and posited it as a potential opportunity right now to trade Lamar Jackson.

47:44Will Gavin:When the columnist in town writes this piece, it doesn't happen in a vacuum. The timing is purposeful. I want to get into some of the specifics of it, but that plus what I already was thinking about the situation to me is really fascinating, and I expect the Ravens season to end on Saturday night, And they really are the most fascinating team to watch this offseason. The Chiefs are pretty close. The Lions are in the mix. Like, it's some of the good teams this year that are really interesting to watch. But the Ravens are at the top of my list. What were your takeaways from this article and just the Lamar Jackson story, right?

48:27So I did a potentially slightly, you know, I don't know anyone on Boxing Day who's making such a wild decision as this. I went to Raven's Reddit because I really wanted to get an impression of what the fans thought of Mike Preston as a writer of the timing of this piece. Like you say, you're not a fan. You get guys like whether it's Grant Cohn with the 49ers or Omar Kelly with the Dolphins who like they might sometimes write good stuff. In Grant Cohn's case, probably not. But like they are divisive to say the least. and I did find a piece that somebody posted from 2005 where Mike Preston absolutely buries Brian Billick because of his treatment of Ray Lewis and holding him up too highly and letting him get away with whatever he wanted to and not having him be a leader and essentially it reads very similarly to this Lamar Jackson piece slightly differently in terms of it's a different age and we're not getting video games and late for practice and things like that with Ray Lewis but i don't know it felt like a hit piece like it felt like it was targeted and it felt like it was something that was designed to make a change happen the problem is is it's really interesting like um as you know i've been doing this channel 5 stuff here in the uk recently which you've done previously on the monday night football um but they do for the 1 p.m eastern games the show is very much designed to be a bit more of a layman show it's designed for like new fans and trying and attract people in and they bring in celebrity guests who quite often aren't big NFL fans or kind of follow it like semi-closely and the guy who was on this week's a comedian called Sean Walsh and he was asking me a head coach firings in the NFL like manager firings in football where guys last like six months and just disappear and I'm like no if anything quite a lot of the time in the NFL it's it's the opposite it's you know we get these situations like Mike Tomlin like John Harbaugh where we're all questioning, are they really the future of the franchise?

50:25Several times over the course of the last few years and either consistently get proven wrong or you just get that bite back of look at what they've achieved, look at what they've achieved, look at what they've achieved over and over. I just, my feeling on this is always there is only one goal in the NFL. There's only one team that win out of 32. There is only one trophy to lift. And if you really don't feel like, you've if you feel like you've got a generational quarterback which is what lamar jackson is and you don't feel like what's happening in the building is working to get that guy to that place

50:58Will Gavin:then maybe it is time to make a change i mean trading lamar jackson's insane i have so many thoughts about this and i i quote tweeted it and i got a lot of people misinterpreting what i was saying and what i said was that after reading this i'm even more convinced that lamar and John Harbaugh are not going to be together this year. And it would be insane to trade Lamar Jackson. That's my main takeaway. It's not that everything in the piece is true. It's that the existence of the piece speaks to an incredible fracture between John Harbaugh and Lamar Jackson. And it reads from the outside to someone's airing of grievances of Lamar Jackson that it's desperation time, It's fourth down.

51:49Will Gavin:John Harbaugh's career might be at the 47-yard line, and his Hail Mary is letting this thing out because it doesn't come out in a total vacuum. And there was, like, no sourcing here. And some of the bigger accusations in the piece, which were interesting to see, was that, you know, Lamar Jackson sometimes is asleep at meetings, that Harbaugh is kind of sick of him and how he, I think, maybe approaches the game. That he shouldn't be up late at night playing video games. That was the most ridiculous one. That they've moved practices to the afternoon, I think, in training camp, I believe, or because of Lamar Jackson.

52:38Will Gavin:Some of those are probably, they all probably have varying degrees of truth. And there's probably some truth to a lot of it. And frankly, it's stuff that has been buzzed around that building and outside of the building since Lamar's contract negotiation a few years ago. You would hear that, almost the exact same stuff coming out kind of from the Ravens side of things. So it might not all be coaching staff. It might be front office. It might. Who even knows? I'm sure there's elements of truth to all of it. My bigger thing was the fact that this is all coming out Right now is like, oh, come on, because Lamar is going to see that.

53:18Will Gavin:Everyone in the organization is going to see that. John Harbaugh goes up on the podium the next day and says he has an A++ relationship with Lamar Jackson. And I'm just thinking everyone inside that building knows the truth. And now everyone outside the building is starting to realize the truth because me doth protest too much. And I don't care how many picks you're going to get for Lamar Jackson. I think it'd be crazy to trade him. And if you even considered trading him well, I think it'd be even crazier to trade him and keep John Harbaugh. Like if for some reason you want to entertain this, you still are making the coaching change and you're making a full scale, like huge change.

54:03Will Gavin:And I don't even want to get into what they would need to come back. Like none of that makes sense to me because I think the obvious thing here to do is find the right coach for lamar jackson yeah what are we talking we don't we don't need to sit here and list we don't need to sit here and list it off right the two-time mvp should have potentially won it again last year very close in the voting apparently like yes there is this knock against all of these guys whether it's him whether it's josh allen whether it's obviously joe borrows made it to a super bowl but all these other afc quarterbacks who haven't got there but as we've talked about a lot in the last few weeks as the Chiefs went out of the playoffs it's like oh wow this is gonna be the first time in however many years it's not Brady or Mahomes it's so like it's been so dominated by certain teams that I don't think that means that the Ravens have necessarily failed I think this year they will see as a failure because they went into the year very high hopes you know you think about the the continuity coordinator you think about the continuity on the defense like they really thought that this year could be a year they contend and they're going to look at it from the outside if they don't make it in and go, no Mahomes there, this could have been the year that we stormed the castle and turned up in Santa Clara in four or five weeks' time, and instead they're going to be sitting and attending Pro Bowl games, etc.

55:21on that week. So there will be a huge amount of frustration, but to trade Lamar Jackson would be insanity.

55:29Will Gavin:Okay, so he's about to turn 30. I do think it's okay to recognize that there are elements of the column that are worth talking about, including most importantly about his body potentially breaking down. And that was what Preston said. He thinks Lamar is as tough a competitor as there is. Like, he wants to be out there. But the injuries are starting to pile up. the running ability in two of the last three years, because I think people kind of forget that he didn't look quite the same running the ball in 23 either before he looked incredible in 24. That like Mike Vick talked to Lamar Jackson at some point, like you do have to, you know, protect your body, run a little bit less.

56:13Will Gavin:Lamar has always been great about that. Like there are things to think about in terms of maximizing the rest of his career, of course. And if approach to the game is part of it, of course. Like I think about another quarterback in that division. Ben Roethlisberger, who to me famously adjusted his approach mentally, physically, everything when he got into his 30s and was better, like very much relied less on his physical ability. And Lamar's always been great mentally in the game. So that's not a question. He's a great pocket quarterback. He should age well. But finding the right coach for him to do that is really important.

56:51Will Gavin:And Chris is in the in the comments saying I should I should mention that it's a Baltimore Sun columnist, not a reporter. And to that, I would say when you're that columnist and I know Preston, I have thoughts about I think he's ultimately like it's good to have one of those guys in town. And he might be serving a lot of different like sources and stuff. But he knows he knows the truth. He knows what's going on. And I know a lot of Ravens fans kind of don't like him because he's he stirs it up a little bit. but these things don't happen in a vacuum. So honestly, it coming from him, even as a columnist, that's what a columnist is there for, is actually a column like this, even if you don't like totally love it, because it does say something about it.

57:33Will Gavin:We don't have to wrap up here, but I do want to remember that was quarterback keeper presented by Snapdragon, learning more at snapdragon.com slash laptops. Just fascinating. Snapdragon getting their money's worth here with a meaty Lamar Jackson segment. it i just to finalize the point you were making because i think the ben roethlisberger comparison is fascinating what this isn't is russell wilson what this isn't is early career success with a brilliant run game great scrambler great deep ball thrower but did he have the capacity to be a pure or mike vick is a good example yeah another one like what are we talking about here lamar is like one of the all-time greats who's had like even this season which was you know not great for him was like of course you're betting on that guy to to have a good you know sorry to cut you off no no i think at some point a full story of this season might come out where we find out about like just how healthy was he when he was playing because there was that six week stretch where he just wasn't running the ball at all i think over six weeks he had fewer yards total than his average per game in his career up until that point and you just you were surprised he wasn't using that part of his game because it clearly wasn't necessarily designed that way but get in one of these kind of young offensive genius types who can whether that's as a coordinator or as the head coach and and we've seen it daniel to baltimore i've been i've been speaking it i i was speaking mike mcdaniel to kansas city as a run game coordinator for quite a while but actually i'd sure he'd rather take a head coaching job with lamar jackson uh in a heartbeat like i that's the kind of guy that if you get them in there and they can they're younger they can connect with lamar better and they can design an offense that is more suited to his skills at 30 maybe than 24 i i still think this is a team that can go on and win not just a super bowl potentially multiple over the next day whoa okay let's no i mean yeah i mean i i think he could but um so much needs to to go into it but we we are in the post drake may world of course so you know we're not going to get it's now going to be the AFC Mahomes May Mahomes May.

59:40Will Gavin:It's one of my favorite damage check bits. Like there's only so many Superbowls to go around. Everyone says, Oh, he's going to get one. He's going to get one. It's like, if my homes is taking so many, um, and you got the Eagles who are getting back, but this year it is wide open. Josh Allen, by the way, is going to play this weekend. We, we learned that from, um, Bill's coach, Sean McDermott, uh, some other injury news sauce. Gardner is going to return for the Colts this weekend, but they lost to Forrest Buckner for the rest of the season after he re-injured his neck. That's not great. Tristan Wirfs is out for the Buccaneers, so that was just something I was keeping an eye on because I picked the Dolphins in that game.

1:00:18Will Gavin:I kind of feel like the Buccaneers have a little bit of a death witch. At least at the very least, I think they're going to cover five and a half points there. This was a pleasure, Will. If we were casting the NFL Daily Christmas play, you're playing Santa. I mean, you're just, you know, I'm not trying to typecast, but you're just a jolly, pleasant guy to see over the holidays. And I do love talking football with you, and I'm looking forward to that Super Bowl too. So what many people won't know is as a 20-year-old student living in Leicester in the Midlands, I got offered the opportunity to be Santa not only at like a local like the kind of council run local free visit Santa thing but I also ended up being the one that went on the float at the big turning on of the Christmas lights and everything else I did have to still wear a suit despite the fact that I'm a man of substantial carriage and with the big beard and everything else and so I have been publicly in front of a crowd of quite literally hundreds of people uh as santa people so i've been well cast it's the beard it's it's it's wonderful and yeah no will's will's the best and i'm glad he's been been recognized this year as a great play-by-play man for talk sport you can check him out on talk sport you can also check out a new podcast he is doing called across the formation so everyone go and like and subscribe to that that's that's on podcast apps that's on youtube uh and you can check out talk sport there as well uh it was a pleasure we will be back on sunday it's a little bit lighter of a sunday slate but we have those two big saturday games jordan rodriguez gonna the boots on the ground give us a in-person update she's going to texans chargers we also have that packers ravens game eagles bills is a fun one on sunday i cannot wait uh merry christmas to everyone we'll see you next time

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