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29:16and then everyone gets it off and you feel like a special little flower that the rest of the country is going to school while you have it off. Big day. You know what else is a big day? Thursday, the NFL Draft. We are going live on YouTube after the draft. It'll be Jordan, Rodrigue, and myself. And yeah, really looking forward to that. And so yeah, do the little thing where you save it and you get enough options during the draft. Who needs that? The second it's over, you don't have to wait for the podcast, but you could do both. Listen to both. So you're saying the entire state of Massachusetts also has a day off on April 20th?

29:56420, bro. Oh, that's what Dave Damaschek would say every time it turned 420 in our NFL Network newsroom, which was like funny the first 7 ,500 times. But once he got into like the 400th, the 500th time it happened, like it was even funnier. But yes. Art is subjective. I just learned Maine has it off too. I didn't know that. Let's actually wrap up the Giants because literally as we were taking a break, Odell Beckham, we learned, is in the building taking a physical. So we don't know if that means he's going to get signed, but that's interesting. Doing a little bit of a workout. Seems like this thing might actually happen.

30:36I also saw this little report that like, hey, Dexter Lawrence, He doesn't like to work that, you know, this report kind of dogging him. Dexter Lawrence doesn't like to work that hard Monday to Saturday, and he wasn't necessarily looking forward to the John Harbaugh era, Harbaugh known as a taskmaster. And that made me think of this appearance that Zay Flowers had on the 4th and South podcast hosted by Jarvis Landry and Leonard Fournette. You know, look, I think Jarvis is from New Orleans. Anyone from New Orleans is immediately just got a little extra something to them and Leonard Fournette from the area too.

31:08Bet it's entertaining. Zay Flowers got a little notice last week. I thought, said, quote, however many practices and pads you can get, we're doing every single one, talking about Harbaugh. One-on-ones in Week 17. Everybody out there, we're tired, we're still going. Later, he's like, that's why I think we had a lot of injuries because of how we practiced, how we went. The load was heavy. And people were like, you know, we didn't hear this from players when they were in ball tour. I was like, yeah, we did. Ed Reed talked about it openly that he never agreed with John Harbaugh. Didn't really like how Harbaugh did business.

31:44Ed Reed was at the end of his career when Harbaugh came aboard and they won a Super Bowl together. But interesting. Just thinking about that with Harbaugh landing in New York. It's all a piece of the puzzle. Old school, man. It's old school. And you're going to like it or you're not going to be on the team anymore kind of mentality. They have had a lot of injuries. I don't know, though. I don't know enough to say that practicing in full pads, which is out of step, that late in the season is a bad idea. I mean, the Chiefs have been famously running a harder training camp than everyone else over the last five, ten years, and that's worked well for them, so who knows?

32:23Let's go to some news because, like I said, we're going to get to the A.J. Brown stuff later. We've got to fly through this. We've got to get through our segment. But a lot has happened, a lot of contracts. Let's start with Trent Williams. It gets done, two years,$50 million. He gets$37 million guaranteed on this contract, adds a lot of money guaranteed in 2027. So it seems to basically lock him in through his age 39 season, unless things just went horribly wrong this year. And even in that case, he's earned some money into next year. So good to see that he got his deal done. Yeah, which is what we all expected.

33:00it's just one of those things where John Lynch and company just kind of keeps avoiding the problem until it becomes a much bigger problem than it actually is. If he can still go, then he will. I don't think that this precludes them from attacking the position in the draft, trying to find what the next development plan of the next player will be. But yeah, this is kind of like the rest of the roster is so top heavy. You might as well roll to the wheels, fall off on this one. Matt Barrows report or just made a tweet like joking. half joking that he just thinks John Lynch didn't want to do another press conference where he said that a Trent Williams contract was imminent and he has a press conference on Monday.

33:37And that was like his soft deadline. And I'll give them some credit because they've dragged these things out over and over into training camp and they've been trying to avoid that. They even said that was a goal for them. So this is early. Now it's just happening up in Washington, you know? Right. And Trent Williams, it is interesting to think when he got traded to the 49ers, I even remember saying back on around the NFL, I was like, it sounds crazy, but like he's not that far away from like a guy that has a hall of fame candidacy at the time. Like he has to just add on a few more years and like, he's going to have a candidacy.

34:10Now it's just, you know, he might be first ballot. Like it's just assumed he's one of the best tackles of all time. So what a trade that turned out to be for the 49ers. Speaking of a team getting contracts done earlier and earlier, let's give the Cowboys some love. Brandon Aubrey, $28 million over four years, $20 million guaranteed$10 million in his first year. So the$7 million per year, not nearly what he was reportedly looking for, but the fact that he's getting paid$10 million this year is breaking major barriers for a kicker. And even the average is pretty good. And he'll probably go looking for more money by the end of this contract.

34:47So the Cowboys didn't drag it out. Good job. I don't know if there's much to say about that. How about Will Anderson getting$150 million in a three-year extension? a hundred and thirty four million dollars guaranteed for will anderson he is now locked up and i think the word extension is really important here he had two years left on his rookie contract so that changes the whole average money he had the fifth year option it's great for him all this guaranteed money is right at the top of defensive players in the history of the nfl so he's earned that but also they control his rights through 2030 which is a really long time i i I know you're a big fan of Will Anderson and just kind of like the, maybe the biggest weight bearing wall right now in that organization.

35:33Yeah. He is the present and the future for that team. And you can pair him with, you know, Daniel Hunter has been great paired opposite him, obviously, but you could, you're going to be able to pair him with any type of rusher because he can do everything. He is absolutely a incredible sort of queen on a chessboard type player where you can do so many different things mathematically because of who he is as a franchise, like you said, weight-bearing wall. I also like that they did it early. This is smart business. This is extend your best players, extend your players who you know are going to be around for the long term and do it before, you know, he even reaches his prime.

36:14He's not even there yet. And do it before he potentially costs way, way more. Right. This is going to age well for the Texans. and he'll, if he plays as well as he's played so far, will want more money once you get into year three of that. But that's the great thing of these longer extensions. So the average is not that crazy, even though per year, just on the three-year extension, it's quite a bit. It does show the difference between him and CJ Stroud. Not that we needed a contract to explain that to us, but I don't think they're working on a big contract extension for CJ Stroud. Two years ago at this time, you would have thought they're getting it together.

36:48I have a comp for Willie Anderson, by the way. Ooh. of what he means to the Texans and the type of career that he's having. Because I kind of remembered him as a draft prospect. When they gave up the number 12 pick in that draft,

37:03the 33rd pick in that draft, and then a first and a third the following year. So two firsts, but you get Will Anderson, and a high second, the first pick of the second draft, and a third. Well, you've got to be great. And people are wondering, does he have the ceiling? Like, is he ever going to be Miles Garrett? He's not quite that bendy and twitchy. Is he ever going to be the best edge in the game? And it's funny to think about that now. And maybe he's not quite. And this is where my comp comes in of what he means to them and where he is in the in the stratosphere. Is he like their Larry Fitzgerald as a player?

37:36Because Larry Fitzgerald, people kind of think of now as like he's one of the great receivers all the time. But he was never like the guy. He was always like the third or fourth best receiver in the league, but just consistently throughout his whole career. Obviously, he had that great playoff run like he had moments. I'm not trying to downplay him, but that's kind of Will Anderson to me. It's like, yeah, there might be one or two guys that are just like a little higher than you at the NFL level. But what you mean to the franchise and the consistency of being a top five guy at your position over and over and over and maybe a future Hall of Famer.

38:04Maybe. But I think that one of the elements of the Larry Fitzgerald conversation was relative to his peers. They were all kind of in the same area of their career. I'd say Will Anderson, like I said, has not even entered his prime years yet. some of these other guys that we talk about as the best are, you know, age 29, age 30, are about to exit. So there is a very real scenario in which this is the most dominant pass rusher in the NFL for the next, you know, eight years. Keep an eye on them at edge in the draft. I think that's a sneaky need for them. If they had a guy that they liked late in the first round, wouldn't shock me because Daniil Hunter, they had a one year extension there, but they're thin behind those two guys relatively.

38:45And I wouldn't be surprised if they are always looking edge because Hunter won't be there forever. It's time for the offseason ride along presented by Toyota. Speaking of the Cardinals, Jacoby Brissett, not at the Cardinals facility right now while they are lifting weights. You, I think, texted me. I hope this is OK to say that you just wish you could walk through the, you know, through your life with the type of confidence that Jacoby Brissett has not show up to the facility. I just love this energy, man. I know he's getting heat for it from their local media. I don't care. Like, I love this energy to say, the context of this too, is that last year, even as early as training camp, Jacoby Brissett called his shot and was adamant that he was going to be the starter for that football team and then went on to start and they lost a ton of games and he threw the ball a ton of times, a record breaking amount of times, and they lost so many games.

39:40And now he's like, all right, you don't have a plan for your starting quarterback yet, I would like to get paid like a starter if I'm going to be starting games. So just the confidence and the energy of this, I don't care. I just love it. I think it's awesome. I love it too. And there was reporting from Ian Rappaport that it sounds like the Cardinals would be willing to play ball. Then again, they had a press conference on Thursday before this news was out that maybe told a different story. Listen, we got Jacoby, Gardner. They both played a lot of ball. I think as we sit here today, we're not trying to install a system.

40:19You guys are rolling. I'll defer to you on that, but we're not really naming anybody and we'll see how that room looks by the time we get in August. They were naming Jacoby like a month and a half ago saying he was the starter and now he's not because he's staying away. They don't want to pay him. Of course they're doing it like this. He's due a little under$5 million this year. Get him to 10. Get him to 10. His average for the two years I don't like it when people just take away the signing bonus money was 6.25 so that that is mid-tier backup money. It's not great. I heard that and I thought does he survive the draft?

40:53I think there is a world where he's on the Jets or some other team. I don't think it's that crazy because if they end up with Ty Simpson you don't need Ty Simpson, Gardner Minshew, and Jacoby Brissett. They might just be like see you man. Even if it doesn't turn out. Advice to the young people listening. If you You don't ask for what you want. You're never going to get it. Even if you are, if you have to find out, if you're never going to get it in the first place, fine, find out. But if you do not ask for what you want in this life, like Jacoby Brissett is doing, then you will never get it. You won't even have the chance of getting it.

41:23Also, he is the best quarterback on that roster. He is better than Gardner Minshew. That was the off season ride along presented by Toyota. Because when people are the destination, your ride is important. Learn more at toyota.com and find the vehicle that, fits your people. Let's fly through a couple other quick ones. A challenge trade of second round defensive tackles. That's a first. Just from two years ago, the Jaguars swapped Mason Smith with the double A in the middle. Really hasn't been doing much at all. Kind of a bust. Like a big foul exchange. Yes. To the Falcons for Rook Arororo. Arororo.

42:03I love saying that name. Really surprising because Aurora has been promising as a pro. 32 pressures last year from the interior, not known as a great run defender, but compared to Mason Smith, who had six pressures, I think, according to NextGen all of last year and was a healthy scratch behind some pretty poor people, it is a confounding trade for the Falcons to trade some pass rush juice. But I guess it's just like, hey, we have a new system. This guy doesn't fit our new system, but I like it for the Jaguars. They got some pass rush juice. This is a nice addition for Jacksonville, I would say, because now they get to see what his upside could be.

42:45This is probably a player that they had a strong evaluation on coming out of the draft, or at least in their previous regime. And I just think that this is, I don't know, this is like a high upside situation. 11 quick pressures, which is actually more than Arik Armstead, their high-paid defensive tackle. It was more than their entire defensive tackle group. And I tell you what, they're not looking at sacks up down there in Jacksonville. They're looking at pressures. They're looking at proximity to quarterback. They're looking at hurries. They're looking at those types of things. Mason Smith, in theory, they would probably want to play nose tackle in Atlanta and help with the run defense.

43:24But Jacksonville didn't really have any room for him. So just kind of an interesting challenge trade. A reminder, all second round picks. Yeah, they don't work a lot of times. Some first round picks that have been working. Pete Skaranski got his fifth year option picked up by the Titans. Really improved, I believe, at guard last year. And Darnell Wright, who's had a nice trajectory at tackle for the Bears, his fifth year option picked up. Chris Ballard, the Colts GM, mentioned that Alec Pierce is overcoming a ankle surgery, which nobody knew about, at least in the media, didn't know about going into his free agency period.

44:01Interesting timing. I mean, they clearly didn't want to have that surgery at the beginning of the offseason. And so that's a little disappointing for them. But supposedly he's going to be back. Puka Nakua is at the offseason program. It was reported earlier he was at a rehabilitation center. So he is now working out with the Rams. And Ian Rappaport said Jimmy G could be retiring, something that you've been hinting at this show as a possibility. Just saying, like, Jimmy G might not play football this year. Let's wrap up the news just quickly with just an item. Zachariah Branch, the Georgia wide receiver, was arrested over the weekend and faces charges of obstructing public sidewalks, prowling and obstructing a law enforcement officer.

44:42Obstructing a public sidewalk. I was like, is that something you can be arrested for? It can, but you only need thirty nine dollars to pay your bond to get out. I've never seen a bond that low. And I'll just read a little bit of the police report here as revealed by Tom Pelissero, NFL Network. A male later identified as Zachariah Branch continued to stand in the sidewalk without making an attempt to move. I continued to give Zachariah Branch verbal commands to move from blocking the sidewalk and advise that if he did not, he would receive a citation for blocking the sidewalk. Zachariah Branch smirked, then stepped backwards and to the right and remained standing on the public sidewalk so as to obstruct, hinder, or impede free passage upon the sidewalk.

45:27due to these actions, he was arrested. Wow. This seems like a really, really good use of my tax money. This, on one hand, like, people got off their jokes of, like, oh, a smaller guy who showed off his blocking skills. You are a San Francisco 49er. Yeah, on another hand, you know, our friend Adam pointed out, this is just standing while black, you know, and is not expected, according to Mike Garofalo, to impact his draft at all. Probably a day two pick, maybe a high day three pick. Fun player to watch, but more of a guy that I think teams will be worried about. Is he just a gadget guy? Kind of one of those guys.

46:07So that's Zachariah Branch. I just wanted to hit that before the draft. Let's get to the 10 things we want to see in the draft. We took a while to get here. Can I just say? We're going to use some pace. No, you can't say it. I will. One of my small joys in doing this show is when you get a really solid news day. Oh, yeah. Let's go. You just light up from within, Greg. It's just great. The three-day weekend helped. Saw a great UCLA men's volleyball game. Good sport live with Walker, who's very into volleyball these days after mainlining Haikyuu. All right, you start out with one of the things you want to see, Jordan.

46:43I want to see it, and I don't know that it will necessarily be picks for players. I doubt that all of these will be, but I do think we're going to see a lot of movement in the first and second round draft, And so I would like to see at least four more trades. Okay. I'm not asking for much. Four more. At least four more trades. It would have been nice if they waited for Dexter Lawrence to the draft. I know. I could have counted that one involving first round picks. So that also means movement back. So I think there's like a couple of big no man's land pockets. There always is in these drafts, usually right around those pick points, 10 or 12 all the way into the end of the first.

47:23It could also be teams moving up to get players out of the second round. So this is really sort of a general, I would like to see more trades happen. I think this will be a trade heavy draft. That's what all of the chatter is right now, coming from the insiders coming from league people that I've spoken to. This is going to be a trade heavy draft and particularly could be on night one. And so I would like to see at least four. I think it could be little ones too, especially the tackles. I think once you get in, there's going to be a run in the tens and twenties. I'd like to see some big ones. Adam Schefter, among other people.

47:59Hey now, among other people, Adam Schefter has alluded to the Cardinals wanting to trade down, but that if they don't trade down, there's increasing belief in league circles that they could take Jeremiah Love. the combination they probably listened to our show and heard me hyping study styles to them and so now no i'm just kidding the combination of that it's like yeah we want jeremiah love but we want to trade down makes me think like do you really want jeremiah love or do you want to take a tackle and you're throwing that out there but there has been a lot of connecting the giants to come up there are the other teams that it was reported that the chiefs and cardinals have talked a little bit about who would the Chiefs be going up for maybe maybe it's it's Arvel Reese or David Bailey just just for a pass rush all the way to three that that would make some sense there is a lot of talk Andy Reid wants an offensive lineman yeah I think the Cowboys are a candidate to go up now but not really what they do they do have the extra first round pick and people thought for what it's worth like Daniel Jeremiah put this out there like the Bengals at 10 were kind of in a tough spot because, you know, depending on if one or no tackles go ahead of them, I think there's like a, it's, it's an eight or nine player draft where people are really excited about those eight or nine, especially for their needs.

49:15And they didn't need tackles. So that's what I mean by no man's land. You're going to hit those desert pockets where you just feel like, okay, the best thing I could possibly do is trade back. Yeah. I have trades in general as one. I'll go, I'll start off with the Steelers just getting specific. because there's a few Steelers items. But Steelers Depot and some other places have been saying that there could be a possible trade of one of their edges. And so Alex Highsmith, Charles Robinson of Yahoo Sports had this, is the more likely of the two. Nick Herbig would be the other potential target. It sounds like teams would love Nick Herbig, but Alex Highsmith might be a little more available.

49:55He's going to be a third contract guy. getting closer to 30, but still really productive. Whereas Nick Herbig is younger. I want to see this because they just don't get Herbig on the field enough. It has annoyed me that one of the best pure pass rushers in the league, they just like sit him down. I think the TJ Watt contract was not a smart one, the way that they structured that and who they decided to pay there. So just because I want to see these edges go elsewhere and Alex Highsmith is a fun piece. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I just would like to see that happen. If you're not going to use Herbig, then trade him.

50:28I came up with some teams for them. You want to hear them? Yeah. Okay. Philadelphia. Yes. That's pretty strong. We'll get to them in a second. Carolina. I think it would be a good one. Yes, please. That's where he came out of, right? Alex Eismith? Where did Alex Eismith go to school? I forget. The Patriots, but their pick might be taken by someone else. The Titans, I think, actually could be in the mix. The Bucs. There's a lot of teams. UNC Charlotte. Good job by you. continue the Bucks would be great I think the Bucks would be great you know sneaky kind of the Bills maybe would be a good one too I know they made the move for Bradley Chubb but they do still need help there he would be a fun player a lot of teams need edges like Baltimore hey if you were going to trade for Max Crosby and you said you were going to pair him New Orleans Miami actually I don't think is a crazy one for Herbig specifically if they were going to invest on someone long term those are some edges I want to see that There's a lot of talk, too.

51:26They might take an offensive lineman, the Steelers, in the first round because Broderick Jones, who's had a star-crossed career as a first-round pick, had a setback with his neck injury, might not be ready for the season, according to Adam Schefter. Also, our guys say Aaron Rodgers. Remember when the owner said, well, we're not going to wait around until the draft this time? We expect it to be within a month? We're at the draft, and the reporting now is that they're not going to hear anything before the draft with Aaron Rodgers. We're all looking for the guy who did this. they also have five picks in the top 100 for now.

51:56If they trade one of these guys, they will have more. They could even get more. I want to see it. All right, give me another one. Another one for me is I am anticipating and very excited to see, specifically through this draft, what power dynamics start to truly cement themselves in these organizations. We've heard whispers of and chatter, like we mentioned earlier, about John Harbaugh being the one who is going to be making these picks. It's obviously a collaborative process, but with Harbaugh having a dominant say in kind of how he wants to build this team's identity moving forward in New York.

52:31And I'm eager to see like Kevin O 'Connell and many in Minnesota, for example, with Brzezinski as the interim GM right now. And those two have a great relationship. But this has a dynamic or a feel to me of a coach wanting to have just a little bit more say in the draft operation. the pictures they've already shared out on their team media department is of those two specifically sitting next to each other and purposeful. They're having a great time. I do think that, you know, seeing how much power a new coach in some of these new organizations, declarations of intent, as you like to call them, what those actually look like and a place, even a place like, you know, in Baltimore with an established front office, how much say will Jesse Minter actually have in bringing in quote unquote his guys or identifying, especially understanding that coaches do not come into the draft process until extremely late in the scouting process.

53:30So you're not necessarily, you would probably opt to lean on an established general manager and infrastructure in that case, but the coach still has to get his guys that match a scheme. It's not unheard of that the coach has one idea going into it. And then as OTAs begin, a different plan sort of starts to take shape or a better plan or a better strategy for that season starts to take shape. And then they just have to kind of wait until the next full season with them. It's going to be hard to tell the difference because frankly, they were drafting Jesse Minner players before. Yeah. I mean, he was there.

54:01The systems weren't too different relatively the types of players. Obviously he'll have a say. I think that's going to be a nice cooperation. Yeah, I did say I do like statements of intent with the first. So we talked about the Giants. That was going to be one of mine, but I'll skip past that because it's very similar. Miami, Las Vegas. I'd like to say Atlanta power dynamic. Yeah. I'd like to say Atlanta because, but they don't have any picks early Tennessee, like his Borgonzie. Now it's his show for the first time. So these are some statements of intent, but especially Miami and the giants with early picks.

54:32I'll do a quick one then, which is just, I like, I like the post draft depth charts. You know what I mean? To me, it's just very satisfying that we reached this point of the off season. And it's like, okay, let's just look at those babies on our lads. They're working all weekend. And they're pumping those players into the depth charts. We're doing a show on Sunday with Ali, and I'll just look at it. And it's like, this is what we're working for. Enough speculation. And I know there's other moves to be made in the offseason. But for the most part, these are our teams. And I just find that a very satisfying exercise, the post-draft depth charts over the years.

55:08It's just something I'm looking forward to. Yeah, something I'm looking forward to is more prospect celebration videos with families, especially. I love to see the moms celebrating with their sons. It absolutely warms my heart every single year. Good mom and son content of just the biggest moment possible in this prospect's life and his family being around him. I know we put together a super cut of this. You can see some players, if you're watching on YouTube, some players really excited with their families. And it's always the most heartwarming. You know, when the dad breaks down and tears and just the culmination of a lot of dreams and hopes and wishes and a lifelong memory.

55:51It's just like one of the most endearing things that can come out of the draft. And that just injected all into my veins. I just want all the joy. I love that. I'd love seeing them at their house. I love seeing the dynamics. Andrew Hawkins had a, you know, sometimes a great one between the girlfriend and the moms are very interesting. Who's sitting where? CeeDee Lamb had a famous one where he had the two phones and the girlfriend takes the phone away. There was the Titans draft pick. I'm forgetting who it was, that tackle that didn't work out. That was a classic of the genre in general, though.

56:26I love those dynamics. We'll see what Fernando Mendoza is doing. He'll be at home not going to the draft. All right, let's get to the Eagles and the Chiefs. I decided one of the things I want to see on draft weekend. the plans of the Super Bowl 59 teams. And this is where we can get into the AJ Brown of it all, man, like these two teams, which on balance have been the best two organizations this decade. The 2020s would be the chiefs in the, in the Eagles, but kind of coming off difficult positions. Now the chiefs are in the top 10. Who could they be moving up for? They have three of the top 40 picks because of the McDuffie trade.

57:07So 9, 29, 40. I think offensive line could be something there. Cornerback, certainly curious, like how they get aggressive. Would they go Jeremiah Love? Would they go Jordan Tyson? We'll see. They're fascinating. The Eagles, I don't think their depth charts in as bad shape as the Chiefs, but I would say they have more questions right now than they normally do. Two offensive linemen threatened to retire this offseason. Lane Johnson is right towards the end. Landon Dickerson, we'll see. They have three of the top 68 picks because they have a high third from the Hassan Redick trade from a couple years ago.

57:40They have five of the top 115. There's a compensatory pick in there too. So they have a lot of picks. There's rumors they might want to go to Jonathan, go get Jonathan Grenard from the Vikings. That's still out there. Could they be trading for a wide receiver to replenish A.J. Brown? Could they be trading to move up for a wide receiver or just drafting a wide receiver to replenish for A.J. Brown? Their offensive line. and I would say their defensive line is thinner. It's very good overall, but they're not, they don't have stars at the edge and it's thinner than before. Like there's just a lot here.

58:14And that leaves us to AJ Brown. What do you make of where we're at in the AJ Brown news cycle? Yeah. Well, so, okay. So there's been some reporting first over the last couple of days, Nate Tice on football 301, our friend of the show as well, made some allusions to just hearing some chatter that there was, I'm paraphrasing here, obviously, that there's sort of an understanding that this trade is already going to happen. Adam Schefter and Jeremy Fowler put out their annual, what I'm hearing before the draft or insight, what insiders are saying before the draft report. You know, to be clear, I haven't read it in full, but I do know there's some big AJ Brown implication.

58:55I read it in the, the wording is very funny because they're not positioning it as news like on their news stack and yet a lot of aggregators are taking the actual words that adam schefter said including he tweeted it out i mean and he literally writes aj brown is likely to become a patriot and to for that to come from adam schefter to me is news it's still on track to happen after june 1st per league source. Still on track is interesting phrasing to me because that would have been previously established as being on track. He puts all these caveats in here almost transparently trying to avoid the league being upset that this has worked out because that's not like how post-June 1st stuff is exactly how it's supposed to work or the team is being upset because they're just trying to stay quiet about.

59:51And then the actual wording as he goes on is not as strong. It's like remain highly interested. It's possible another team could get in the mix. But to be clear, the Patriots are very interested in restarting those negotiations after June 1st. It sure sounds like a deal is going to happen and that there's more of an understanding than is being reported. I've never seen a story quite like this where everyone is expecting something very specific to happen. That's massive news. And yet no one's exactly reporting it. So I'm just assuming it's going to happen. I will say you do see this with coaching hires and the hiring cycles too, where people are positioned as the favorite, but oh, they have to go through a couple of other steps in the process.

1:00:41Almost like a Rooney rule thing, but an AJ Brown trade, which is like, it's a similar vibe that I get from all of this, frankly, of like the, okay, yeah, we already know what we're going to do, but just, you know, just wait. Cause there's some steps as a podcaster. How should we handle it? I feel like we should almost just talk about AJ Brown's on the Patriots and what that means now, but I guess we, we can't, I just think perhaps your own, um, excitement about this might be taking a little bit. You don't think I'd be excited to talk about AJ Brown going to any team. I'm actually a little wary.

1:01:14As a Patriots fan, I just think you're just excited to just, you know get this conversation going no i'm just a news guy i i'm a little wary of it i think they'll probably news guy i i mean it's the humble newsman it's an annoying thing to have to talk around for a month and a half but i the most telling of all these were jeff darlington got on espn he said the eagles are operating in this draft as if aj brown's not on the team because they have to because there's a possibility that he's not on the team but then i was like if jeff darlington specifically is reporting this and he does a great job but he's not trying to break news it's like it's happening that I just feel well they've been operating it's happening they've been operating before the draft I mean they went out and got receivers like they you know it they're they're building the aggregate right like that's you know that's it they've been operating like this I think the AJ Brown is very similar to Dexter Lawrence in the way that I don't think it's a great overall team building approach I don't think they're gonna have to give a pick that's that high maybe it's a pick next year but I also think they'll get like a probably a really great honeymoon year that they're happy with.

1:02:20And then long-term, like it, it might not be something you look back on as like the best move, but, but you get a short-term bump and a long-term hit. I don't know. AJ Brown wasn't like amazing last year, but he is still AJ Brown. All right, let's, let's fly through the rest of them. Yes. What else do you got? For number eight, I would like to see Fernando Mendoza hit us with a swear word. You know, he's going to be joining be Las Vegas Raiders. I'd really just, let's effing go. You know, I'm effing fired up. You know, it doesn't have to be that one. It could be a number of colorful choices he could potentially pick.

1:02:53I don't think it's happening. I would just like to see him. I would just like to see a little, him come out of his shell a little bit. I'll let Kirk Cousins, who also happens to be on that roster. Speaking of Nate Tice, I really like that he interviewed Mendoza, Nate Tice did, and Nate shared that after the interview, Mendoza asked Nate for what he thinks he should get better at what Nate thinks Mendoza needs to work on and then it was like oh and it it was like it was clear then Nate realized like he had done his homework Nate Nate's you know a quarterback kind of guy that makes me happy but also that like you know he's studying for these different interviews of like who is this guy interviewing me and that he wants to hear he wants to get better in any way possible so he's asking I like that I like that knowing can pick I can picture what Nate's reaction to that would be which would be like totally disarmed caught off guard never expecting it even though anybody should be asking Nate for feedback on how to he is one of the best in the game it's just I can picture him being like who me you know it's like it's just a very uh endearing but I bet he had a good answer too um things to work on maybe maybe a little bit under center.

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1:08:11It's just like when it goes really well, the rare years that someone was really on top of a lot of things, then you're just like, hey, I nailed it. But there is something to me, because I'm keeping track, of just seeing everyone who is so confident about, they were doing this, they were doing this, and then none of it happens. Maybe this makes me a small person figuratively, in addition to literally, or a contrarian, or a hater, they might say. But I enjoy that when it comes to draft weekend. Do you have any specific receipts here? I do. I would say, like, McShay, Todd McShay, I'm specifically rooting against him in general, I would say, this year.

1:08:48Because he came after our guy, Ali Connolly. First of all, I noticed that last week, McShay on Thursday says that he'd be shocked if David Bailey doesn't go to the Jets. And then by Saturday, he's saying, I think Arvel Reese is going to the Jets. This is the type of information gathering that changes so much and doesn't have a ton of value. but he went after Ali calling Ali like a ridiculous word for just reporting the news on Ruben Bain for literally reporting police reports that are out there for publicly saying police reports as if it was some sort of hit piece and I think Ali explained it really well in our show I don't need to defend Ali of like of course why it's newsworthy even if a lot of teams knew about it like the general public didn't know about it and a lot of people didn't know certain things and teams do have questions if he's been transparent throughout the process and if there's anything else behind door number two that's all sort of behind the point i think it really reflects on your own character if you're not like looking into the person that's doing this and you're getting upset about someone just reporting the news because you think what it may hurt their draft stock like who are we who are we defending here if all the teams knows you can't be on both sides.

1:10:09If all the teams know and it's not affecting their draft stock, what exactly would you be mad at in the first place? You're saying it's a nothing burger, right? The whole reaction to Ali's reporting bothered me a lot and I honestly wasn't aware about it until on Friday or Thursday night when we're like done taping this. I was told about these comments. Give me a break. Also, just my general advice to like any adults, especially like a grown man, just like, you know, go reach out to the person you're planning on, you know, like pick up the phone. Well, it's clear like he didn't really look into the situation.

1:10:43And like that shows the type of lack of character that you're accusing the other person of going after someone's character. That's it. That's 10 things. Nope, that's nine. You got nine. A man was in a doozy. I have an extra one. We might have to do 11. Nine kind of came out of you. Maybe, you know, alternate ego there. Um, okay. Mine, uh, I can't wait to see the middle round surfers kind of take over on day two and day three. These are teams that have frequently picked pretty well in the middle rounds, regardless of the number of picks. They also often turn a lot of middle few, a few middle round picks into more middle round picks.

1:11:21Um, these are, uh, the, the 49ers, the, the Rams, the Ravens, the Jaguars, the Dolphins, uh, even the jets. I'm excited to see what Darren Moogie does with some of this like middle round surfing. and a lot of picks at their disposal and moving up and moving back. And I love the point where like the trackers, the draft trackers get so ahead of the broadcast and all you hear is the little trade ding going off. And you just know that some chaos is happening and all of a sudden it pops up onto your screen that this team that was supposed to be picking a few picks later is actually picking now. And maybe they're leapfrogging to get a guy that they like or maybe they're moving back.

1:11:58I just love all of the permutations of the middle round surfing that happens. I think the Falcons are going to be really active because they're going to be trying to pick up extra picks. The Dolphins, just because they have so many picks and are probably willing to kick some into next year, are going to be super active. The Eagles we talked about are going to be super active. The 49ers, their picks all stop in the fourth round. So they're going to have to try to pick up some more. I do love that stuff, too. That is 10. And yet I didn't get to... Go 11. Do 11. We have a whole graphic that says 10 things we want to see.

1:12:26You know, we're going to have to change that. Well, this is just a free one. D 'Angelo Pons. after Daniel Jeremiah talked about him on a show that you're going to hear on Tuesday, our final 40s of free agents before the draft. He puts D 'Angelo Pons, the cornerback from Indiana, into his top 50. He compared him in a way to Jalen Hurts, a guy that throughout the whole process, he didn't have in his top 50. And then at the very end, he's just like, this player is so good. There's something so much about him. I got to at least put him in my top 50. And so I remember that with DJ where at the last second he put Jalen Hurts, even though it didn't make a lot of sense into his top 50.

1:13:04And this guy is fascinating. Yes. Am I going to root for an undersized player a little extra than, than other people? Of course, five, eight, one 74 at cornerback. And I think what he is going to test is just like, how much can the size really matter? Cause a lot of teams really believe that they have hard rules at cornerback specifically. and it took DJ talking about him and then Ollie and John Ledger talking about him a lot too on the read optional that made me want to watch him and I watched the tape against Denzel Boston specifically like Denzel Boston's one of the best vertical you know contested catch guys in the league and there's D 'Angelo Pons out there doing a job against him his tape is crazy if you're into the draft and you haven't watched him yet it took me until this weekend to watch him I mean he's no question one of the top three cornerbacks in the draft and his tape is as electric, I would say, as the top two, but he's 5 '8 and 174.

1:14:01But he went up against Jeremiah Smith, against all these great players. And so I'm just curious. I'm now tracking his career and I'm curious what the NFL thinks of him too. Because I think his film would tell you he's a first round pick. You just ignore the height. I get that he's probably not going to go in the first round because of that. But is he going to get totally killed because of it? To me, he's just a fun player I'm going to be rooting for. Yeah, I love that about the draft. is when these guys that you just really, there's something, just that little extra edge to them or there's something about their profile or their character or the way that they play or just that pops to you and you're sort of just attached to them.

1:14:37You're now on their team. You're now rooting for them. Well, in this case, it's just that he's small. And other than that, he's electric and he's not old. He's super athletic. You know, some of these guys didn't work out over the years. And he's not old. Mike Sanrasil got drafted pretty high. He's not coming off a good year, but I think Pons is even better. I'm just saying he's not like a guy that would be dinged for being like 24 or 25. Like he's a young player. By you. Very athletic. Yeah. Great vertical leap too. Making up for it. I think he had like sixth among all players or something like that.

1:15:08That's it. We did it. As we go, I'm just going to like put this weird Detroit Lions tweet up. I'm surprising you with this one that they sent out on Monday morning. For some reason, the Detroit Lions are tweeting like a wide receiver. live your life with no regret because tomorrow is not promised. The Detroit lions sent out. I think Dexter Lawrence put that on a post-it. What do you think that was an admin, uh, signed into the wrong account, but now they just got to live with it as the lions. No, they're going to make some big trades. They're just trying to get people 1.5 million views. This has all the makings of a copycat attempt on the PF Chang's tweet.

1:15:48I mean, I don't know. Just like blind tweeting. Yeah, first of all, Detroit Lions admin, are you okay? Like, call me if you're not. We'll get through this. I do see grown men, sometimes older than me, or around my age tweeting like this often, too. Just like little shots out into the ether that you don't even know what, nobody knows what they're about. Yeah, I've seen a couple of those recently. Let's grow up. Let's talk about our next show, 40s and Free Agents. Final one before the draft. This is where I put Daniel Jeremiah on the clock and give him the hardest sitting questions. Rapid fire. And we go through a number of late situations.

1:16:27Our last show before the draft is going to be my mock draft with Patrick Claiborne. That'll be coming up on Wednesday. Until then, Jordan, you'll see her next Thursday night live on YouTube.

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