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20:09Jourdan Rodrigue:I mean, I'm making a big deal over it. He's starting to crack, I think, a little bit. Let's listen to him. We've been harping on it as a coaching staff, and when it results in a loss, I think it just magnifies the issue that was at hand. How was that message received by your team leaders, your captains, and then what actions would you like to see them take this week to change those penalties? Yeah, would like us to stay on side. So, you know, it's simple. Yeah, it's discipline. you know I think they're as fed up with it as everyone is in the building and so they understand it's just not what good football teams do and I think they're going to take ownership of it I think we're going to be just fine Seems okay I know I'm making a thing over it because he's haunted by it He is though, it's been consistent It's been since camp, it's been since OTAs it's stuff that he was losing his GD mind over on the practice field that still is not fixed and he's mentioned And he's had some pretty loaded comments previous to these most recent ones, just about how they are coaching it the way he wants it to be coached.

21:18Jourdan Rodrigue:And there's a little, I think, insinuation that maybe they're being inordinately penalized by officiating and all of these things. You can't say it out loud. Obviously you get a fine, but there's, it's just, it's, it's a mess. All of the pre-snap stuff though is like, you can only blame yourself ultimately. And it's a really interesting point to make because I think it's so integral in what they do is all the pre-snap motion and everything. And I thought it was really interesting. After the bye week, he basically said, okay, we were conservative and didn't essentially run the offense I wanted to run the first month.

21:54But now we're going to run it. We're going to do all my stuff. And for the most part, it led to better rushing performance and things looking better when they did get the snap off. But ultimately, yeah, they need that to be the Bears team they want to be. here's the good news. They played the Bengals, potentially the worst defense in the league. And then they play the Giants, which shockingly has the worst run defense since at least my subscription for FDN Fantasy allows, which is only to 2017, even worse than the Panthers a week, a year ago. So they have two of the easiest possible matchups the next day.

22:32Jourdan Rodrigue:That adds to him being haunted by this because these are, if there's, if the only reason that they can't get this offense off off the ground finally for good are the self-inflicted penalties. I mean, I'm just saying, the nerd rage. Yes, I love a little nerd rage. Okay. I'm going to go more my own rage. But it's about Mike Tomlin. And it's about this Pittsburgh Steelers defense. And I think sometimes it's the ghost of that steel curtain. It's the history of what the Pittsburgh Steelers are supposed to be back in the 1970s. But more than anything, it's the ghosts of what Mike Tomlin said just a couple months ago.

23:23In August, Mike Tomlin said that this could be a historic defense. I got some clown calling me little bro on Twitter being like, Tomlin never said that. Here's the quote.

23:39Jourdan Rodrigue:Little bro. I'm your big bro. You're my son. No. Here's Tomlin. We got to write that story, but we've got enough talent. We've got enough schematics to do big, big things. And when I say big things, I'm talking about historic things. That's Mike Tomlin on August 12th. Fast forward two and a half months, and their offense is performing better than I expected, better than anyone could have expected. 12th in DVOA, they are more than doing their part. What are they in defense? Number 22 in defensive DVOA. Dead last in yards per drive allowed, bro. Get off the field. Meanwhile, you got the Rooney family spending$165 million on this defense.

24:32that is more than$25 million more than any other defense in the entire league. What's historic is how poorly they're playing.

24:46Jourdan Rodrigue:And I know this is especially tough for you to say because the offense is playing adequately, Greg. Good enough, yes. And I know you want to be a hater. I am a hater. And that's fine. But this is not just haunting but downright frightening because you can invest this much, not just money, but personnel and draft picks and all of these different things. Derek Harmon, first round pick this year. Keanu Benton struggling, second round pick. And it's just not looking like they look slow. They look older. And they don't look like they're evolving. Some of that at the beginning of the year, you could blame on injuries.

25:24Jourdan Rodrigue:You know, Joey Porter was in and out. Junior was in and out of the lineup. and at a certain point, Jalen Ramsey was dealing with a hamstring and all of these different things. Alex Heismith was out. You could do that to a point, but now you're getting to the point where there is nowhere else to look and Mike Tomlin is being asked about it. Oh, he's looking elsewhere. Let's actually listen to Mike Tomlin. This was part of his press conference on Tuesday. We certainly need to be better in third down than we've been, but it doesn't necessarily mean dramatic changes in terms of schematics and things of that nature.

26:01Why not? That was what got me in that quote from before was because of our schematics, because of our players, we can do historic things. I think their players are really good in the front. I don't think it's perfect in the secondary, but I think it's more about the schematics that are the problem. And it bothered me. It's why I'm doing this segment that he opened his press conference today talking about how frustrating it was that they couldn't put together a complete game plan and that the offense couldn't finish drives, that they were in third and long too often, and they settled for too many field goals.

26:38And I'm thinking, you're opening that press conference with that when your defense, the one you said was going to be historic, just gave up 90-something points in 900 yards or 60-something points over the last two weeks and 900-something yards. Like, look in the mirror. You should change the schematics. They've been the same since he got there.

26:58Jourdan Rodrigue:Yeah, and what I think is probably frustrating to Steelers fans right now, and to you as well, Greg, is that some of the changes that they did make in terms of the personnel, and I do point to that Jalen Ramsey trade, or excuse me, yeah, the Jalen Ramsey trade as one of them is, is you get some of these players who are supposed to be, and no, he's not playing like vintage Jalen Ramsey. Like, let's just be clear about that. But he has made splash plays. He will have games, especially when he is, I think, set up for what he's more able to do now at 31 years old, um, play in the slot and kind of be that like tilt coverages and leverage different mathematical matchups.

27:41Jourdan Rodrigue:And, and at the beginning when they, when this trade happened, And it was all the sort of the running line and myself included was this is this is among the multiple different gestures or signals that you're getting from this Mike Tomlin led Steelers defense that they are going to take another step in a different schematic direction. They are going to evolve a little bit. And the production has not matched it. no and I think when he's pointing out you know them struggling to get off the field it's because good coaches I think know what is coming it is a lot of the same you know man coverage blitz type of concepts and if you wanted to really simplify it I think it's more of an execution defense it's more about our players are better than your players we're not trying to fool you and uh it It reminds me of the old John McCaite quote, the old Buccaneers coach, when he was asked what he thought of his offense's execution, and he said, I'm in favor of it.

28:47Jourdan Rodrigue:This defense is not executing. Very Halloween. Not executing. Chop its head off. I mean, I love Mike Tallman. He's such a good coach, but I think Dave Damoshek has done a good job pointing out, like, there's nowhere left to point. Like, it's always the offensive coordinator. It's always the offensive line. And I think right now, Tomlin is a big part of the problem. All right. Give me what you're haunted by. I think that somebody is being haunted by some previously very strong comments that were correct made last fall. That is Kevin O 'Connell on the Rich Eisen show. And he said these incredibly truthful words.

29:26Jourdan Rodrigue:I believe organizations fail young quarterbacks before young quarterbacks fail organizations. very true right and I think credit to Kevin O 'Connell for not only speaking up something saying something very plainly and very honestly that's been an issue across the league all 32 for for years for decades at this point his comments were not and are not wrong but they loom extra large right now as the Vikings walk a pretty impossible haunting and tightrope with their quarterback situation in light of the Carson Wentz season ending labrum and arm socket injuries and JJ McCarthy seemingly returning from a high ankle sprain, which was the reason why Carson Wentz, AKA the human shield was playing through those injuries to give JJ McCarthy enough time, according to Kevin O 'Connell and the organization to return in a safe and healthy way.

30:23Jourdan Rodrigue:For me, multiple things are true here based on all the reporting and all the, uh, on the record and radio comments and probably continued questions and comments all throughout this week from Kevin O 'Connell, from Carson Wentz, from everybody involved in the situation. It seems like he was really pushing to play through this injury, these multiple injuries. And that can be true. While also teams don't protect players from themselves historically. And it's also true that in this case, the Vikings could not really protect the player who they have spent less resources and invested time in from himself.

31:01Jourdan Rodrigue:The lesser of two evils in their minds seem to be okay. Let him play and protect our future investment. But that's also failing a quarterback. That's failing Carson Wentz. Well, maybe it's in the words there. He's okay failing older quarterbacks. He just doesn't want to fail the young one. I think you're right. And I think if you go back to what could be haunting this team, it's their off-season plan. Yeah. Because Carson Wentz wasn't there. They wanted to have Sam Howell. I was forgetting. I was like, who was their backup quarterback two months ago? It was Sam Howell, who they traded for. That was a bust.

31:34I think leaving Wentz out there was brutal when you could have played Max Brosner last week. At least at some point in that particular game, that happened. I don't know what happened behind the scenes, But at some point, the decision was made. Carson Wentz is going to be put down for the year. That might have been Carson Wentz is like, OK, you used me. I'm good here. See ya.

32:00Jourdan Rodrigue:You know, because he can't physically play, Greg. We just we literally just saw him do it. So he could, in theory, put off that surgery. I said at the top of these comments, like everything that everyone, including Carson Wentz, is saying out of Minnesota right now is he was pushing to play through these. Right. Right. So that can be true while also this can be a total mess and an organizational failure at the same time. Both of those things can be true because a player will always want to play and an organization will nine times out of 10 not protect the player from himself, right? It's very rare.

32:31Jourdan Rodrigue:Both of those things are true. It's a fact of the league. You don't have to like it. Fact of the league. But the thing is, is this franchise, because you're now trotting out, you have two quarterbacks on the roster, JJ McCarthy and Max Brosner. They're probably going to add another guy, but it's hard because there's not a lot of people with scheme or system familiarity. And then you're putting more resources into a quarterback room that you already reshuffled right before the start of training camp. You're throwing whoever's out there behind a bad offensive line. It's not playing to the level of the investment.

32:59Jourdan Rodrigue:And some of that's injury related as well, but an offensive line, not to the level of expectation or investment and also a run game, not to the level of expectation or investment. And when you have all of that. Carson Wentz happens to be the first casualty, the first real noticeable casualty of all of this, but you have to get this right because you have gained the reputation through your very true and correct actions with previous quarterbacks, as well as your reputation and your very correct words. You've gained this reputation as a guy who gets quarterbacks and is the quarterback whisperer.

33:34Jourdan Rodrigue:And to reiterate, he earned that reputation, but it's dangling kind of precariously right now as those words as as honest as they were kind of come back to haunt him and the organization because you could argue that whether or not they got it right with J.J. McCarthy watching what happened to Carson Wentz the rest of the system is not is not succeeding around the quarterback and yeah there's nowhere to hide I think they were they were trying to set up J.J. in the best chance for success by making sure he's 100 % back. Look, do I think if he had played lights out the first two weeks of the season, he would have sat as long?

34:13I don't. I just don't.

34:14Jourdan Rodrigue:Yeah, and a lot of people are forgetting that, that he did not look good, but for that one quarter. Right, and so I think that was a big part of why he had to wait to start longer, but at some point, you know, they had to play him. They would have been playing him, it sounds, I think this week, whether Carson Wentz was hurt or not, and it's going to be tough. You got the Lions and the Ravens right out the gate for J.J. McCarthy. I am curious who else they'll bring on there. But it's also an opportunity. That's a great thing about the NFL. You're like one week away. Like if they could just somehow beat the Lions, then it's like none of this mattered.

34:47All that really matters is J.J. McCarthy's development for the rest of this season.

34:51Jourdan Rodrigue:And that quarter against the Bears was enough of a wild card that I wouldn't rule. I wouldn't rule it out. He's got some gamer in him if he's feeling healthy. Like I just wouldn't rule it out. at the same time, the Lions are a wagon on both sides of the ball. And also, like, again, this this roster, this I mean, the defense is not playing up to the level of expectation. The offensive line is not playing up to the level of expectation. All of these things preseason that they tried to construct in order to basically plug in and give this quarterback like a crescendo through the course of the season.

35:22Jourdan Rodrigue:It's just not happening. Vikings fans probably don't want to hear. But I'm I'm with them kind of where I was with Drake May in the offseason. in and last. It's like all that matters is J.J. McCarthy. They're probably not making the playoffs this year. But if J.J. McCarthy has a positive next nine games, that's kind of all that matters for the Vikings. And so that will start on Sunday. And we'll preview that game on Wednesday. Can't wait. Colts. Man, I have a lot of regrets about how I evaluated the Colts. I'm haunted.

35:55By many things. When it comes to picks. But the over-under win totals draft, that's my baby. Hadn't had a loss in four years of doing it. And my number two pick this year, partly because Nick Wright took the over on the Chiefs, which is looking good. My number two pick this year was under on the Colts, seven and a half.

36:19Jourdan Rodrigue:Ooh. Not only that, a couple weeks ago, I flipped my pick on game debut from the Colts to the Chargers. I mean, in that game. just absolutely stupid and there were so many reasons to see what was coming with this colts team first of all ever that was like the most obvious everyone's piling on type of pick i don't want to consider myself a contrarian but i do find myself kind of making picks like that so for me to just go like a lemming and fall right off the cliff do exactly what vegas wanted me to do and and take the colts so early like they were going to be some sort of disaster off based off vibes Whatever.

36:58That was stupid. I should have seen what was there, which is weirdly a win-now team full of incredible continuity and really good on the offensive line. Now, did we know Tanner Bordellini and Matt Gonzalez, I believe you pronounce his name, were going to be as good on the interior? Probably not, but they played pretty well at the end of last season. So there were signs there. But in terms of the weaponry, they've all been in Shane Steichen's system now for years in terms of their defense. Like, it is a veteran group. Zyre Franklin and Grover Stewart and DeForest Buckner and Kenny Moore, and they bring in Charverius Ward.

37:38This is not a young team. Jonathan Taylor, like, if this didn't work this year, obviously they were going to blow it up in terms of the GM and the coach. But also, I think, I sort of forgot, the players that have been there have been there for a while, and they're good players. And Steichen has proven he can win games without great quarterback play. And so there was a lot leading up to this season. I think that that made us just off target that I should have been able to see. I should have been a seer. And more than anything, once it started happening, I really should have just trusted it because I do trust it.

38:12I don't think they're going anywhere. I don't think that means they go 15 and 2. But I think they're the second most likely team in the AFC to make the Super Bowl. And I think the offense is going to be a wagon, as you say, all season long.

38:25Jourdan Rodrigue:They are. And Jonathan Taylor having the season that he's having. I know we're too early. It's not even technically mid-season. We can hand out some awards next week. So we could say. MVP type of season. You could say that he would be your offensive player of the year so far. He's playing incredibly well. They're explosive. They are getting, you know, their success rate on conversions is like some over 50%. And then some, it's incredible. They are, they're fantastic. And I think a lot of what was maybe the bias that a lot of us, myself included, came into the season with was this sense that Chris Ballard was just going to do the stubborn thing again.

39:07Jourdan Rodrigue:And that kind of carry Shane Steichen along in the undertow with him in terms of sticking with Anthony Richardson and trying to make that work because of the investment and because of the evaluation that they had on him, because the investment they had made into him. and that's not what happened. Instead, they pivoted from a decision that, you know, I think say they pivoted into the right one, whether or not we still know what Anthony Richardson can eventually be, we don't, I don't think, but you can say they pivoted into the correct decision and they did it kind of without that fear of embarrassment, I guess, of the first decision that they had made to invest in him in the first place.

39:46Jourdan Rodrigue:And I think that it's like, we should have just read the tea leaves with Daniel Jones choosing to go there, despite the fact that Minnesota, he had just been in Minnesota with Kevin O 'Connell. Does he get credit? Does O 'Connell get credit for helping to restart Daniel Jones' career or blame that they could have just paid him$16 million this year? Also could have paid Sam Darnold, just saying. Right, but they could have paid Daniel Jones a backup type of contract. He's sort of in between, but they could have paid him$25 million less than Sam Darnold and kept Daniel Jones. I'm going to say I give him more blame than credit.

40:25Jourdan Rodrigue:Well, I'm going to say I give Daniel Jones credit for going where he could see a roster and believe it would be successful. And so like, we should have all followed Daniel Jones, honestly, but I will say, I'm still stuck on you saying you're not a contrarian. Like I got stuck on that at the beginning of your comments. No, I said I would not want to... I'm still stuck. No, what I was saying was I, which is kind of a funny thing for a contrarian to say, I would not want to think of myself that way, but I'm I'm open I'm admitting on the internet that I'm a contrarian exactly I'm basically saying that I recognize that in myself alright one more thing that's haunting you well you know I'm an optimist so I picked something that is hauntingly beautiful like a treasured spirit that's come into your life or a treasured soul from your past this is the Chargers offense specifically out of their heavier personnel groupings with Joe Altback and activating Scott Matlock at fullback and activating all of these different tight ends, including Omari and Gadson in the passing game.

41:26Jourdan Rodrigue:So you could stay in the heavier personnel. Kamani Vidal, 23 of his carries on his 23 carries last week, 20 of them were out of a heavier personnel. So that's either with a fullback added or multiple tight ends added or six offensive linemen and a fullback added in Scott Matlock. Jarrett Patterson, not on his 11 carries. 10 of them were in heavier personnel. This is all according to NextGenStats. The Chargers had 207 total rushing yards, including 62 by Justin Herbert, who clearly feels more confident using his legs, and especially when they can block it up for him, and especially when they've got these human sequoia trees up front blocking for him.

42:14Jourdan Rodrigue:Like I mentioned, you can activate actual pass catching tight ends and stay in your heavier personnels. I'm just, I just got all tingly, you know, watching it. And especially there was like a second and six where it was all of them lined up and Scott Matlock was in and they had two tight ends and they had a running back as well as the fullback. And it was just this wall of people. It's everywhere. It's your league, your league right now. Hauntingly beautiful. The Eagles had 12 snaps of, uh, six offensive linemen. And they're just using, they call it a tight end, but it was just Patrick. It's like basically just another tight end.

42:51The Texans went nuts, cranking up more six offensive linemen snaps in that game almost than the rest of the season combined. Patrick Ricard returned for the Ravens, who I kind of feel like is an offensive lineman.

43:03Jourdan Rodrigue:So yeah, heavy personnel is happening everywhere. It is. All right. Let's talk Thursday night football. Okay. these are two teams, the Baltimore Ravens and the Miami dolphins on Thursday night football who are coming off. Maybe the most encouraging games. Each one of them has had all season long who like a lot of the teams we just talked about, we're kind of haunted by backup quarterback decisions. Okay. Maybe the dolphins were, but they did elevate Quinn yours one week and he made it all the way to the throw of the year candidacy. And now for some reason, Zach Wilson is back to being the backup, but no, I really do think like the Vikings are haunted by their backup quarterback situation.

43:44The Giants for making the wrong one, I think, to start the season. And I think the Ravens for signing Cooper Rush to$7 million when your boy Tyler Huntley was right there all along, gets a big win last week. And I just think there was a lot of encouraging factors for Lamar Jackson to return to. They did confirm Lamar spoke to the media. He'll be out there. Kind of a hometown game for him. and all they need for Lamar Jackson to be successful is an average defense. In the last two weeks, they've been average. All the numbers would say they've been right around average and a good enough running game.

44:21And the running numbers have been average, average success rate over the last two weeks. And when you add Lamar Jackson to that, it becomes exceptional.

44:28Jourdan Rodrigue:Yeah, I am really eager to see what this will look like because we noted this on the recap show on Sunday that Todd Munkin called a better game. And this was important for him to do because there had been reports locally of just dissatisfaction around the building of how it was going to that point. He called a better game. And he also called a game that you could see Lamar Jackson dropping into and elevating, obviously, the quarterback position in doing so. But then also you could see all the pieces and how they would pertain to a Lamar Jackson-led offense as well, obviously with a huge improvement.

45:05Jourdan Rodrigue:a quarterback because this is Lamar Jackson we're talking about. So I'm really curious to see what this looks like. Having Patrick Card back is sneaky huge for them too, and activating some of the ways that they want to run the ball and some of the ways that they want to disguise their run pass looks as well. And having this defense, you know, moving the safeties a little bit, Aloha Gilman coming in and adding to the group and then being able to move Kyle Hamilton a little bit again. We saw this work last year. It's almost like, would you just want to start the season that way. I know they were limited in personnel, so maybe couldn't, but it's like you could start to see maybe this Ravens team is, at least in theory or in ideation, what you're seeing them do schematically on the field, maybe turn a little bit of a corner.

45:48You can kind of like look at the snap count. It's as easy as that to me and see who's playing. And it's like, yeah, Gilman's now playing every snap. And Roquan Smith, who did not look right early in the year, and then they sat him down, and that did seem to be one of those injury situations where it was like, you're not helping us playing through the injury that you have. Let's sit you down. They get through the bye. He has his best game of the season by far. That's a massive deal. Marlon Humphrey is so integral to what they do on defense. And then I even noticed last week, like Mike Green has not been that effective for them as a rookie pass rusher, but they just need him.

46:22And he basically was out there every snap. He did have a couple of splash plays. I'm not saying he's turned the corner, but he's helped. And it's interesting because I know it's just one week and it might just turn out to be one week, but I do think it's a tougher matchup this week against the Dolphins, who really showed something a week ago with a lot of diversity in their running game. Certainly Tua Tungavailoa's best game of the season. Jalen Waddell's gone 95 yards or more three out of the last four weeks, and it might turn into just a blip, but it was a really clean, awesome performance by the Dolphins, especially in the way that they attacked the running game last week.

47:02And so I do think it's a tougher matchup than people might realize when they look at a seven and a half point spread on the road.

47:07Jourdan Rodrigue:Well, and I think the Dolphins would probably prefer to not be looked at too closely because coming in as an underdog is helping them. It has helped them. But also, you know, I think a lot of us expected this to be an interim coach by now, possibly even, you know, interim management in the front office as well. And it's not because these guys are getting a shot genuinely to turn this thing around or so it seems on the surface. Right. And so I feel like it's very interesting to me. I actually have not spent a lot of time truly worried about Miami's offense this year, whether it was, yeah, they still, for years, they've had issues in the run game.

47:41Jourdan Rodrigue:Like, I won't say that that's perfect by any means. They need the running game to work better, like it did on Sunday. But in terms of the way Tua, I mean, a couple of real stinkers of games, but especially last few weeks, playing better, some of the, the, the vintage sort of timing and, and ball handling and, and just different little layers and elements that they add for trickeration for the handoffs and the misdirection and all of those things. That's there. Jalen Waddle is playing great. Not having Darren Waller obviously is a, is a blow, but Jalen Waddle has really been that guy and been that player who it's almost like he's, he's, um, he's just like shining a little brighter without a Tyreek Hill also demanding some of the targets or needing some of the targets to go his direction because of his pure speed and ability to separate.

48:28Jourdan Rodrigue:So this has had to be sort of a rebuilt on the fly a couple of times this year. Offense. If Mike McDaniel can just commit, just commit to running the ball, Ollie Gordon might, you might really have something in compliment with Ollie Gordon. I think, I think he's a player that should be part of their future. Like he's a, he's a short yard, big, big physical back. Jalen Wright got into the mix last week. And then Devon H and is great, whether lined up as a receiver or as a running back. the flip side is where I'm even more curious if it was a one week thing or not, because they did make some schematic changes of terms of how they were like lining up their defensive tackles last week.

49:04And everyone got on the Falcons and you did at somewhat as well. I don't think it was about like, in terms of how much they were using Bajon Robinson, it was more like knowing how to use him. Because when you look at that game last week, they tried to use him. It just wasn't working. And so is that a one week thing? Cause the, the dolphins do have talented players up front. Jalen Phillips definitely coming off his best game of the year. I would say Zach Seeler is too. I think Jordan Brooks has been great all year. They do have some players. The weakness is in the secondary. So that's one where I want to see it more than one week.

49:36But that one week was enough. It really isn't one week. If you look at their last three or four games, every week has probably been their best game of the season.

49:44Jourdan Rodrigue:Well, they're all hot seat games for everybody. Right. Even the Browns game defensively. Like I know they were playing the Browns, but they gave up around 200 yards in that game. The defense was fine. So I'm always hopeful that we're going to have a more interesting game to talk about on the Thursday night recap. But I know is that booth? Yes, I I do think they showed some things last week that at least make me think, OK, maybe they're a little closer to the seven and ten, eight and nine dolphins that maybe some people expected before the season than they are to this total problem. The problem is that they're playing the best offense in the league when it's healthy and it's and it's quite one of them and it's quite healthy.

50:20Jourdan Rodrigue:And also if it goes horribly, horribly, horribly wrong, just a couple of days before the deadline, the Ravens might be getting a great look at a pass rusher. They should try to make a move for and see if that works. Ooh, that's good. Because I think Bradley Chubb is probably more likely to be traded, but he hasn't really been that effective this year. Has a big number. Jalen Phillips is a really interesting young player who you could think about trying to sign long-term after you trade for him. But I think the Dolphins should be trying to sign him long-term because you're always better that second year.

50:50Jourdan Rodrigue:Yeah, you might be frozen, though, whether you're offloading or extending if you don't know if you're going to have a job at the end of the year. That's a great point. So that's why a team like the Ravens could bring them in. They could think, hey, we'll tag them if we can't work out a deal. Something like that. Thursday night football. I think I think the Dolphins maybe keep it close. Closer than seven and a half. Why not? That's it for today's show. We will be back on Wednesday. Are you ready? I'm so ready. Honkers Anonymous. What did we call it? Honking? Haunted honkers. All bad. All bad. All of it's bad.

51:23Jourdan Rodrigue:End the show. Spooky. It's going to stay spooky all week. See you Wednesday.

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