Is DJ Moore the Right Move for the Bills?

18:26Jourdan Rodrigue:Totally agree. And there was only so many that were going to be available and there is competition for it. And I do think there was a market they are not giving. I, I know in terms of like how much they had to give up with the contract, that's where it got a little crazy, but I, I fully believe that someone else was offering a third out there or else they wouldn't have had to go to it too. So, so good on Brandon Bean for trying it. Let's go for it. just sets up a fascinating rest of the period for them. Will Dawson Knox stay on the team? I assume they're going to cut Josh Palmer, who's due a little bit of money.

18:58Jourdan Rodrigue:Tyrell Shavers is like a good four. Keon Coleman's not going anywhere because you're not going to get anything for him. And really sets up the Bears. Yeah, they really mishandled that, Terry Pagula. Yes. And I think that is a sneaky hard market. They, you know, you got the Sabres there, but they're not happy with the Pagulas. They're not happy with the Sabres. and this is a team that's just been knocking on the door for a while. The natives, like Eric Roberts, are getting restless. They want to win. And we got a win, by the way, Eric points out. This is now two players off Bill Barnwell and I's trade list in the last couple of days.

19:31Jourdan Rodrigue:So we got many more to go, hopefully. But Trent McDuffie and now here's DJ Moore. We're trying to top the nine players off our list that actually got traded a year ago. Let's take a break. We're going to come back. We just have a couple little items of news. Today's going to be a quick one, but some Max Crosby buzz when we get back.

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24:02Jourdan Rodrigue:Back on NFL Daily, we did get the opinion of Bill's super fan, Eric Roberts, over the break. He seems moderately optimistic about DG now, but believes he needs, we need some growth out of Keon Coleman. Let's move on from the Bills. It is time now for charging into the offseason, presented by Apple Card for all your game day purchases. Hey, now, let's talk Max Crosby. And I know this is a weird thing to throw out because it comes from Trey Wingo, not a guy you normally see breaking news on Twitter. But it just was so intriguing. It's a little red meat I wanted to get into. He wrote, things are moving fast about Max Crosby.

24:45Jourdan Rodrigue:Last night, and he writes this on Thursday, Dallas thought they were close to a deal. But since then, other teams have raised the ante and potentially are offering the Raiders two first round picks. Now Dallas is expected to shift their focus to Trey Hendrickson. Now, Trey Wingo doesn't break a lot of news, but occasionally he's popped up with some things over the years, and it's so rare that actually I do give it some credence. It's coming from somewhere. Whatever the reason for this is to get out, I find it interesting, even if wherever you think it is on the 60 % accurate to 100 % accurate scale.

25:23Jourdan Rodrigue:I like that the Cowboys are really in on these edges, like spending big. I'm a little surprised. And the thing I would be a little surprised in terms of accuracy is like, I'd be stunned if the Raiders get two firsts for Crosby in the end. But we've kind of seen with McDuffie and certainly Parsons and some of these deals, like we're seeing more picks than expected. And like, who could this other team be? I don't know. But we're kind of on the lookout right now. And it does really feel like this is going to be the offseason that the Cowboys spend big, whether it's Crosby, Hendrickson or something.

25:59Jourdan Rodrigue:It is kind of also hilarious that they would be getting an edge rusher after trading. I know, right?

26:04Gregg Rosenthal:Just pretend. Just pretend none of that ever happened last year. Yeah. Trey was on, I think, the first go round of the Aaron Rodgers sweepstakes. He was all over that. So definitely some like a lot of credibility here on this. And then Jane Slater posted earlier today, our pallet NFL network said on mass Max Crosby and the Cowboys being at play here. Here is what I'm being told from a team source. She quotes a team source saying Raiders are talking to a lot of people, but we would not give up to first rounders. She says that's the situation now. Will that change? I don't know. She said, but I checked for those of you who are interested.

26:42Gregg Rosenthal:And I'm like, that's my girl. She's great. Like, I love the little flourish. She adds at the end, too. She's like, I know you guys are all fussing about this. So I went ahead and checked with like a high ranking team source because I'm Jane Slater.

26:54Jourdan Rodrigue:Yeah, I somehow missed that. And that does push the ball forward a little. First of all, it's coming from two people. And you would imagine they're both have some Cowboy sources. Obviously, Jane does. It kind of indicates the Cowboys are willing to give up a first for Max Grosby. If they're not willing to give up two firsts.

27:12Gregg Rosenthal:Yeah, that was very specific to me.

27:14Jourdan Rodrigue:Right. So that makes me feel as we sit here Thursday afternoon that Max Crosby is going to get traded. It just like we've gone a little back and forth over the last week, two weeks of like whether I think this will happen or not. But the fact that we're hearing other teams, in this case the Cowboys, but we'll see if anyone else is in the mix, is willing to give up at least one first form. I just think it's a matter of negotiating what the price is going to be. And I will be fascinated. And it is really interesting, too, Jordan. You know how these markets work. That Hendrickson and Crosby, it's like, which one is going to find a new team first?

27:57Jourdan Rodrigue:First, is Hendrickson going to be kind of the backup prize to Max Crosby? Is a team like the Bucks who, you know, I could see Hendrickson going to, just ignoring the Crosby of it all, but just going right to, like, wanting to go to free agency. Does Crosby want to get moved before? It's all very interesting. And I think, look, two of our best edge rushers in the last five years are probably changing teams in the next five days. That's why it's the Greg Euler season.

28:20Gregg Rosenthal:The Greg Euler season, yeah. And to your point, the agents are probably waiting out these teams as long as they possibly can because they want to see, they want a really good read of what these markets are. And, you know, these teams are all kind of listening to what each other is doing, and it's basically who blinks first and throws in a first and a second instead of a first and a third or a first and a fourth. So this is going to be interesting to watch because, yes, I do believe that because the Raiders per Jane are being so chatty right now in terms of assessing whether they can get this level of a haul for him.

28:58Gregg Rosenthal:It kind of feels like the haze in the barn on him.

29:00Jourdan Rodrigue:I love it. Let's go through a couple of the releases that have happened. None of them were overly surprising. We mentioned earlier that the Vikings were cutting Javon Hargrave, who was a big signing for them last offseason. They're now cutting Jonathan Allen, who also was making around$10 million-ish a year. He's had a great career, but he's getting cut, And he also retweeted a fan who wrote about how in Brian Flores' system, the defensive linemen don't get sacks or pressure, which is true. And maybe Jonathan Allen didn't really enjoy his time in Minnesota, and the numbers don't look great. The Steelers are releasing Jonu Smith.

29:37Jourdan Rodrigue:So Pittsburgh fans, I think they're going to be, you know, unfortunately for Jonu Smith, I think happy about that. That kind of indicates maybe Pat Friermuth is not going anywhere. Darnell Mooney, who had a good 2024, is going to be a free agent. Wasn't as good last year, but could kind of be a decent fourth receiver for someone out there. And then I'll throw this one to you, Jordan, as a surprise. It's just a lot of Alec Pierce smoke in the mix in New England right now.

30:05Gregg Rosenthal:Our Silver Lake friend, Alec Pierce. Just everyone thinks Alec Pierce to the Patriots.

30:12Jourdan Rodrigue:I don't know where this came from or what, or if it's his agent using the Patriots who kind of look like the team that's going to spend the most on a wide receiver and they're trying to use it as leverage or what. But I'll tell you this, at this point, you know, you got like the fastest white receiver in the last I don't know how many years. The Patriots fans are going to be disappointed if he's not on the team at this point. They think he's already there. And I'm like, I still don't quite expect it. I don't know.

30:38Gregg Rosenthal:I just think back to that one guy who I ran into at joint practices that with the heavy Boston accent explaining the lore of white Patriots receivers to his father. And Efton Chisholm was definitely absolutely going to become the next one. And I was like, I feel like I'm listening to a moment in a fan culture here.

31:02Jourdan Rodrigue:Right. Yeah. That's why Alec Pierce would be nice. It would be changing the stereotype, but only so much. as one of the biggest, fastest receivers in the league. Chisholm fit more of the profile. But anyways, I don't know. We'll see. We'll see if that appears.

31:16Gregg Rosenthal:I was laughing because you mentioned John U. Smith and his imminent release. And our friend Mina Kimes has this great podcast, and she talks about reality TV on it. And it's with David Dennis as well. and I don't watch a ton of reality TV, but I needed something to listen to that was light and with people that I like listening to. So I picked up that podcast and I feel like I don't even need to watch episodes of Love is Blind because they describe them so well. But I started watching for the first time, totally enraged by this season, by the way. We don't even need to get into it. But the Johnny Smith thing reminds me of, it's everything that Arthur Smith ever wanted and they finally, they get to the altar and then they're standing there facing each other and then there's the entirely cringe moment where he's like, you know what?

32:10Gregg Rosenthal:This ain't it. This actually, this is not actually it.

32:14Jourdan Rodrigue:I mean, they tried to make it work. There were some games where it felt like it was the all Jonu offense and it was not effective. I don't think it was Jonu's fault entirely, but yeah, they needed to. These things can be complicated, Greg. Yeah, I think they made the right decision to not say I do. I quit Love is Blind. The Minnesota season did it for me. If you're a listener out there, I haven't watched the last few seasons. I was like, I gave it a good five, six seasons. I felt like that was enough. Maybe I'll get back into it. We'll see. Cam Jordan, speaking of saying I do, he's making it very clear through Adam Schefter that he's going to hit free agency for the first time in his career.

32:53Jourdan Rodrigue:A little bit of a leverage, like, hey, he's not happy with what the Saints are doing. And I just bring him up to kind of say, look, if a team, if a player is this close to free agency, Man, that price better be sky high for you to get me to sign on the dotted line before Monday. And there will be some signings. But, man, you're so close. To me, the only reason that you would resign now before getting to Monday or Sunday, whatever it's going to be, is that you don't really think the market's out there for you. So something to watch there. Also, I wanted to welcome back, we teased it earlier, Matt Eberflus to the NFL.

33:24Jourdan Rodrigue:How about the new member of the Raheem Morris defensive staff in San Francisco? the flooce is loose in the NFC West.

33:34Gregg Rosenthal:Whatever did we do without it? I have no question for you.

33:35Jourdan Rodrigue:That was just more of a statement.

33:39Gregg Rosenthal:Yeah. Man, I don't even really know what to say about it, Greg, to be honest with you.

33:45Jourdan Rodrigue:I was just like, what do you think? You know, add a little sprinkle, a little flooce to this whole NFC West thing. It's fun.

33:51Gregg Rosenthal:So I cover a lot of coaching cycle stuff, as you know, over for The Athletic. and one of the funniest things to me every year is watching everyone's titles change and like how niche some of these titles get because they can't promote a guy any higher but they have to give him a pay raise and the agent like wants a title a better title for the coach or whatever this one is this one cracked me up it was uh assistant uh assistant head coach

34:19Jourdan Rodrigue:on defense right it's not even the assistant head coach it's just the assistant head coach To the regional manager. There might be another assistant coach on the team, so that's why they couldn't give it.

34:30Gregg Rosenthal:It's incredible. It's great.

34:32Jourdan Rodrigue:Last item is a player I like. Running back, Sean Tucker, was not tendered by the Bucs, so just keep an eye on him. I know our friend Jackson Bevins, who hosts a great podcast, Cigar Thoughts, about the Seahawks. He is a big Sean Tucker guy and thinks that would be a great fit for the Seahawks. And I do think that's the kind of running back they might be going after. I think he's intriguing for someone out there, So I might have to add them to my 101. That was charging into the offseason presented by Apple Card. Apply for Apple Card in the wallet app today and start earning daily cash back on all your game day purchases.

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