Joint Practice Takeaways from 20 Teams and Early Trade Candidates

20:42Jourdan Rodrigue:Yeah, it's funny. I feel I have almost this like, oh, man, pity feeling for when you're a quarterback in either of these two situations and like you have to get your plays off the ground. And this defense also has to get its own install and its own work, too. And so these joint practices, they become, especially against strength on strength like this, when there's two really good defenses and then you are sort of, you know, that's sort of where the advantage lies with the group. It sounds like Abdul Carter just continues to absolutely shine. I can't wait to see real football that counts when he plays.

21:20Jourdan Rodrigue:He looked awesome in the preseason so far. And like you just hear these reports every day at a Giants camp about him that I, I mean, they absolutely have done it again. finding a player who could be very, very early to be saying this, but there's been a lot so far made of his talent, his ability, how he's popped so far against true competition as well. I mean, this could be really special for this defensive line. Now, the rest of the team, who knows? But the defensive line is going to be rad. Yeah, Dexter Lawrence was participating in team drills and is starting to do 11-on-11. So I said injuries are the most important thing this time of year.

21:59He's coming off the biggest injury of his career, and he's still the best player on that defensive line until proven otherwise. And supposedly in these practices, Brian Burns was giving Armand Membu and Olu Fashnu the great, I think, great, potentially young tackle combo for the Jets, the business. Let's go to the Dolphins-Lions, which it's a rare time where it's just a decisive victory. but your colleague Colton Pouncey, a couple of the other people there were like, this is the most one-sided that they have ever seen a joint practice. That was day one. By all accounts, the Dolphins fought back and made it a little more respectable.

22:41Certainly the, on the offensive side of the ball, the Dolphins offense on day two of the joint practices, but you had to score the decision. It was over day one, a little concerning that it's the second straight week that we've heard that the Dolphins have kind of been dominated in a joint practice. Last time it was the Bears. This time it was the Lions. Let's listen to Mike McDaniel at the podium. This was after Wednesday's practice.

23:06Jourdan Rodrigue:I didn't like practice because there was a lot of negative results tied to things that we've been working on in our process. So like I'm cool with contested losses. I'm not cool with bus i'm cool with um uh you know uh uh db making a great play i'm not cool with a receiver running a wrong route based upon um their responses we'll see how valuable yesterday was you're our mcdaniel translator there i know you're not used to seeing him quite like that yeah stuff's getting real over there i think um and that's more uh frustrated angry i know his voice tone does like not change at all but like that's more frustrated and angry than i think i've i've seen him um and it's i you hate there's always a couple teams every year where they come into the season and sort of the narrative drumbeat is going and you feel it and i don't care if you say you block out the noise.

24:16Jourdan Rodrigue:I don't care if you say whatever you feel it, the drumbeat of how many games does this person really have? How many games does this front office really have? How many games does this head coach really have? And so I think that's where it's you can tell and the players will be able to feel it. You can tell. I am curious. It's tough sometimes to read the reports that come out of there, out of Miami, just because you're not really sure. I'd like to I'm curious you know obviously they were outmatched and outmanned but I'm curious are they playing hard once they stop playing hard because they played hard last year still through the end of the year especially that defense for Anthony Weaver and um if they stop playing hard I don't know about the offense by the end of the year Tyreek Hill was refusing to come back into the game and that is what is concerning to me is that the offense made so many mistakes against the Bears had an awful day and then that the Lions defense which I'm letting myself get excited about might be my Super Bowl, you know, NFC pick.

25:16So I think that the route for that is their defense, you know, just going two levels up. And they do have these guys that I think if they're healthy, can be good. And I was reading the practice reports of who made some big plays. Derek Barnes making big plays. I was like, oh, yeah, I love Derek Barnes. Missed all of last season. Marcus Davenport. I've been hurt before by him. But if he's on the field, like he was winning his matchups up front is a good secondary rusher for them. I'm not going to get carried away or anything. And I did think it was interesting. Amon Rossing Brown after the practice, and I saw one Lions reporter said, like, this was maybe as good a practice as they've ever seen.

25:55Like, any one player have, just like his releases and everything. He was just dominating. And you can think about the matchups against the Dolphins secondary and think, like, oh, yeah, Amon Ross against that team is going to be a disaster. And he said, unprompted really, you know, we just offensively, we haven't had a good camp. Essentially was saying it's been a little frustrating. There has been a little drumbeat about that. It hasn't been the offensive camp that they wanted and that this almost was a release for them where they felt really great about it afterwards. One bad item was on Thursday, though.

26:31Sam Laporta, it was revealed, will miss some time with an injury. not believed to be too serious, but certainly like the rest of this week and maybe into next week. So that was that was from Dan Campbell.

26:42Jourdan Rodrigue:I saw Colton Pouncey, my colleague at the Athletic. I saw his post where it was like sharing the news and then like an hour later, a follow up that said, I can see people are already overreacting to this. It's like, well, it's about that time of year, you know? He also. Yeah. He also was like Dolphins fans. Calm down because Dolphins fans today. It's like Everyone gets into these joint practices. The players do. I know. I don't post anything from them. I can't deal with it. Yeah. The fans go, how come you're not pointing out today the Dolphins were more competitive? It's like, okay. Dolphins have a number of injuries, too.

27:17Tyreek Hill and Jalen Waddle were limited in some way in these practices, which, look, they're dead on arrival if those two players are not 100%. It's more the defense. It's the combination. It's the vibes. Eagles-Browns. You know, maybe the most surprising result of joint practice season. Jordan, I might give this one to the Browns. I mean, based on the reports, just seems like they seems like it was like a draw, like maybe the Eagles by a little on Wednesday, maybe the Browns by a little on Thursday. But if it's a tie, then you give it to the Browns. Unfortunately, Shador Sanders did not participate much.

27:52And well, it really looks like we'll miss this preseason game. And Dylan Gabriel had some good moments, apparently. Joe Flacco, though, was the first team quarterback. And I don't think they're going to play him in the preseason. I think it's going to be one of those games, Jordan, where both teams really rest the starters. And Dylan Gabriel then maybe gets his chance to play a quarterback.

28:12Jourdan Rodrigue:So I was looking at this and it was like Kenny Pickett is still not totally recovered. And then there was something with Dylan Gabriel. I was scanning it while I was walking out to practice today. And so obviously he'll get his shot. Then Schroeder Sanders is dealing with the oblique issue. And then they obviously don't want to play Flacco yet because they would like him to remain healthy into the season. And I was like, what if they went from four quarterbacks to now you have to have an emergency fifth guy play in the preseason? Well, it's Snoop Huntley. Justice for Tyron. Yeah, justice for Snoop Huntley, man.

28:44He comes in there. He's probably like the second best quarterback in the room. like there is a world where he's actually right now the best quarterback in that room to win a game I mean it's all probably close but like he could be he could be uh yeah we'll see Dylan Gabriel it's not announced that he'll start he was increasing his work I'm sure they don't want to risk him but uh it was also interesting I heard from our friends at the all phly show that Keely Ringo at least for Thursday and these practices are important like appeared to be demoted that it was Adoree Jackson with the starters. And then they have this fifth round rookie.

29:20Heard that call out.

29:21Jourdan Rodrigue:Adoree Jackson heard that call out from Vic Fangio. Maybe so. They have this fifth round rookie, Mack McWilliams, who's starting to move up and was playing with her ahead of Ringo today. And they brought in Ja 'Cory and Bennett and he's getting his chance. So there's some concerns there. I would love a new corner in Philly emerging Mac McWilliams in Philly. I mean, that's just, you got to do it. You got to do it. I hope I got his name right. That was one that was off the dome. My favorite, I don't know if you saw this though. My favorite, the ultimate offensive line training camp picture today.

29:58I don't know if you saw it, that, that Landon Dickerson brought out a cooler of Miller light for all the Browns offensive linemen and the Eagles offensive linemen. They're out there. It's like 100 degrees, and they're just pounding a Miller Lite after practice. You're 300 pounds. That would be like me taking a sip. But that's great. Let's not take this too seriously. Tomorrow is going to be mostly a rest day. Let's have a beer on the field.

30:26Jourdan Rodrigue:Yeah, that's lineman Gatorade right there. That's hydration right there. A Miller Lite. I think that's – I see nothing wrong with this. By the way, the Eagles, they just seem like a little banged up. Like Lane Johnson was resting today. AJ Brown had a hamstring, was resting today. Milata has been fighting through something. And reportedly their passing game wasn't amazing. And yeah, by the way, no one can block Myles Garrett. Even guys on the Eagles can't block Myles Garrett. Every player in the league has a scouting report. Strengths, weaknesses, history, tendencies, everything an opponent wants to know.

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34:55Jourdan Rodrigue:This is according to Oculus Beat Test Intelligence. Date a second half of 2025. All rights reserved for T-Money Back Guarantee within 30 days of cancellation. Let's go to the Rams and Saints who had a rare surprise joint practice. This came together last minute and then the Saints actually put it on their website. Shout out to them. I love that. Okay, I have a theory about this. The Rams, they try to close as much as possible in terms of like their beat reporter rules. Like you cannot report on first or second or 13 reps. You cannot report on any scheme. Obviously, you can't report on like anything people say at practice.

35:31Jourdan Rodrigue:They give you great access in terms of watching and learning from it. But they're very strict. And that's a Sean McVay thing, a paranoia thing. Most coaches are very, very paranoid. but it's it was so interesting I I kind of think this was a little mind game because the Saints the Saints haven't really been super open about their practice either there's no fans at the practices in Irvine and so it's like uh-huh you know Brandon Staley's over there he kind of knows how McVay's mind works and all of that you know it's like oh you're got you can't actually run your offense because we're streaming it you know like it's like any little that's amazing It's sort of.

36:07Jourdan Rodrigue:I'm just joking, by the way. I'm sure I'm going to get a DM or a comment about how I should talk less because I'm full of nonsense. But yeah, I love that idea. And I love that the Saints, they seem a little a little looser. We heard from the media. They're a little more open maybe with this new regime and allowing that is great for the fans to watch. The downside is when it starts going poorly. you know, I was texting with my friend Adam, our friend Adam from the Saints Block Party podcast, and he showed me, you know, the message thread on his discord and everything. And people are apoplectic as they can't, you know, they're going, it's just a disastrous red zone period where they can't get anything done.

36:53But on the plus side, and I looked at all the reports and asked, you know, we looked around and it really sounded like the defenses on both sides of the ball really won. So I'm calling this one a draw. Not enough information. I need to be responsible that the Saints actually moved the ball a little bit on offense, but it was like they couldn't finish drives. But that the Rams offense maybe had a little bit of a humbling moment after what went on last week. And you could actually tell by Sean McVay's tone after practice. Oh, yeah. Always mad when his offense isn't doing well. The Saints defense was all over them, too.

37:31Jourdan Rodrigue:Yeah, that brought me. I watched some of it. It brought me back to 2020 when he would come to the lectern and he would be furious because Brandon Staley's defense had just kicked the crap out of him all through practice in that truncated training camp period. And it's interesting. I love that this was sort of a throwback because we saw a really loose and connected and vibey defense when we went to Saints practice last week. Was that last week at this point? And then and then but we've also seen a really strong Rams defense emerge over the last year in a couple months or so, and especially hearing some pop out of some of the reserve interior linemen.

38:09Jourdan Rodrigue:Tyler Davis got some pop from my buddy Adam Grosbard, who does a great job over on the Rams beat. And it's just it's interesting that this was more of a defensive battle. And, you know, that had to just grind Sean McVay's gears like no other. It did. I mean, by the sound of it. And I I'm probably higher than consensus on this Saints defense and lower than consensus, even though not that a lot of people are thinking about it, about their running game. This is on my radar, and it sounded like today they could not get anything done in their running game. And to me, with Rattler and Shuck battling, and by all accounts, Shuck keeps elevating, keeps having a good week, but Rattler is getting the first team reps.

38:53He is getting more of the starter reps, and they both reportedly had okay days today. But if they don't have a running game, Like they are dead on arrival. Let's give some pop to the Saints coaching stuff. I saw this clip today of Demario Davis talking to Kay Adams. And I was just like, wow, that's something. This is his show.

39:18Jourdan Rodrigue:Like he's the man. He's coming in and he's setting a whole new precedent and a whole new standard. And it's a joy for me to be able to be a part of it and come to work each day. I mean, I am a fan. I don't know if I've ever had a coach who I was a fan of. And, I mean, he is very impressive. He is remarkably impressive. And that's talking about Kellen Moore, not about you guys daily. No, but I love that. It's worth listening to the whole thing of why, you know, he's so impressive. But the detail, the attitude, and I just love that from a veteran. All right, let's go on to the Falcons-Titans. don't have a ton here, but scoring this one from the Falcons, from all accounts, they just look like the more talented team overall, which is not too shocking to me.

40:07And Cam Ward and Calvin Ridley, that connection reportedly is great. Your friend Tori, who covers the team, right? Yeah. Tori McElhaney. Am I getting that right? You say it?

40:19Jourdan Rodrigue:You almost got it. Good for you, Greg. I mean, you could help me out here. It's your buddy. This is so much more fun. Yeah, Tori covers the Falcons for the Falcons. She does a great job. And yeah, she noted, you know, a couple of the position battles where Xavier Watts, the rookie safety, looks like he's winning that job. Probably Dee Alford is winning the Nickelback job. Mike Hughes. So these are the sort of things that can be illuminated in these joint practices. Who's really getting the consistent starter reps? Various reports in camps that, James Pierce might be a little ahead of where Jalen Walker is in terms of their two highly drafted edge rushers.

41:00And then this was the most fight laden practice so far that we've had. There was there were brawls, including one that started because after Michael Penix had one of his big touchdowns and supposedly their offense was looking very good that the first day he was talking his stuff and it started a chain reaction. And then he was in the middle of it, like apparently really fighting, which you don't you don't want with your quarterback. He said that is unlike him. And that's maybe the first time that's really happened with him, but that he's from Dade. He's from Tampa, Dade County, and that you can't mess with him.

41:36And I like that when you start saying where you're from, that they better not mess with me, then you're for real.

41:41Jourdan Rodrigue:I mean, you know me, I'm a big believer in Mike Penix. I think there was last year we were just scratching the surface of everything he can and will be for that team, not just as a quarterback, but as a leader and somebody who fires his teammates up. Leonard Floyd was actually one of the first people to draw our collective attention to the fact that Mike Pennix actually, despite if he protests about this, does talk trash and quite a lot of trash. If he pops you on a play, he is going to be talking to you. That's it. Leonard Floyd sort of spilled the beans on that a couple of weeks ago. And I'm not surprised at all because when he goes, he is so confident.

42:19Jourdan Rodrigue:Anyone who watched his Washington tape and stayed up late to watch those games would absolutely agree. I'm excited. I don't still don't know what this defense is going to be. But like we mentioned before, this offense is quite literally built to score points. So should should expect that. I'm worried about the Titans. You know, when when the reporters covering their own their team, I know, but when the reporters covering the team are like, well, the Falcons are just clearly more talented. I'm just, oh. And the Falcons are really talented on offense. And I think that was the side of the ball that was maybe the most uneven was the Falcons offense winning.

42:56And then, obviously, you have a rookie quarterback on the other side. Texans and Panthers.

43:01Jourdan Rodrigue:I like how you say Titans, by the way. Titans. I'm overcorrecting because the Western Mass accent, if there is one, is you don't pronounce the T. Yeah, you're like two seconds away from just getting really, really fired up and excited about Efton Chisholm. So I can understand. You're trying to hold yourself back, Greg. I get it. Falcons, Titans. Bye-bye. Texans, Panthers. I didn't realize how tight CJ Stroud and Bryce Young were. I know they had the experience with the one and the two pick, but I didn't realize their friendship really went back further into high school. Years and years and years.

43:38Like, you know, going through all those camps, being those dudes. It was just cool hearing them talk about each other. And CJ Stroud really just putting on his cape for Bryce, which he has this whole time thinking, saying he's one of the best QBs I've ever seen. That's a bold statement, but that's a buddy. And I think he believes it. And considering how good you have to be to get to his level at his size, I get what he means. My biggest takeaway here was just Derek Brown is in full pads here and wrecking shop apparently against the Texans run game. And they're just bigger up front this year. And I think that's something that's been a little bit slept on.

44:15It was very hot there, Jordan. And it sounded like a day there wasn't a winner. I'm not going to call one here because it seemed like for the most part, the offenses were uneven but had their moments. So like slight edges to the defenses overall. But if the Panthers are even competing against the Texans defense, then to me, that's a win.

44:38Jourdan Rodrigue:Yeah, I love that. Go back. You guys would want to go back and watch this clip. After Bryce Young was drafted by the Panthers, he like waited in the back area. Like he didn't go rejoin his family quite yet. He waited to hear the next picks. And when CJ Stroud was picked, nobody celebrated more. It was so endearing. One of my favorite things I think I've seen in football, just how pure and joyful the emotion was watching his friend. They grew up battling each other's reputation, essentially, like being compared to each other. They grew up at the same quarterback camps. They grew up with a lot of the same quarterbacks, coaches.

45:18Jourdan Rodrigue:And I really love that they got a chance to reconnect with each other on the field. That's pretty cool to me. That's also what these joint practices and training camp is all about from a life perspective. It's pretty cool. And this week, particularly, it's where a lot of teams are wrapping their training camp portion of camp. So a lot of teams, it was really their last day at their location or with the current setup. Now, we still got a while before the regular season, obviously, but I think that was the case there in Houston. And just one moment there stuck out to me where I think the Texans had been struggling most of the day, but got it going late in the two-minute offense.

45:59And Christian Kirk gets a big touchdown, and C.J. Stroud is celebrating. I just think Kirk is going to be so important to this team. They really need another veteran other than Nico Collins because counting on the rookies is a lot. And D 'Amico Ryans was the defensive coach, by the way, I was thinking about. Sorry. I like Mike Vrabel spending all his time on the offense. That's all he's doing is watching their offense. I've heard really good things about those two Iowa State guys

46:25Jourdan Rodrigue:that they specifically wanted to try to pair together. Jalen Knoll and Jaden Higgins heard really good things about their camp, both of their camps so far. But to your point, you do want to have a more established player sort of setting the way alongside Nico Collins. But it is interesting. I think they're going to end up with several very good receivers, at least four if not five, once other guys get back from injury and all of that. Cardinals Broncos. I found another hot day. Another very hot day. I found it very interesting that the takeaways here were both offenses won, that both defenses really struggled with the other team's offense.

47:05Now, it sounded like maybe it was more decisive by the Broncos offense. You know, they had a 70 yard touchdown to Devon Vele, who stays in that mix. And I mean, it just seems like he is going to stay there. And you've heard a lot about Troy Franklin in this training camp, the second year player. And some of the Broncos reporters thinking like this was Bo Nix's best day, maybe the offense's best day. So I'm going to score it by decision. This is tough. It actually took three judges, Jordan, because it was that close. Both offenses were great. And I'm basing on a limited sample size, so don't get mad.

47:40But I'm going with the Broncos. This is where their effusive media maybe helped them just by a little, just the Broncos. But offenses, both winning. So that's good for Kyler and Marvin Harrison, too. Supposedly, they look good.

47:51Jourdan Rodrigue:Yeah. Wow. Yeah. Twist my arm being excited about the Broncos. I would never, you know, like. Yeah, your video we cut for social. That did numbers. Joint practice news for next week. Commanders Ravens canceled. Sorry. But one that did happen, Packers Colts. And this was a defense's win on both sides of the ball. Now, a little bit of context is necessary. No Jordan Love. And then five of the top six Packers receivers are out right now with various injuries, which, you know, one of them is Christian Watson, which we knew he's coming off a torn ACL. One is seemingly serious, Jaden Reed, who I believe is out of his walking boot, but seems very iffy for week one.

48:36So your boy, Matthew Golden, is the only one out there. And so, yeah, they're struggling to move the ball at all against a Colts defense that has some talent. And then on the other side, reportedly, this is to me a bigger takeaway. The Packers defensive line just handled the Colts offensive line up front and almost gave Anthony Richardson and Daniel Jones no chance whatsoever. And reading between the lines of all the reports, actually, it was Daniel Jones that maybe made the more rookie like mistakes under all that pressure, which is not too shocking to me. Whereas Anthony Richardson was more just not having an amazing day, but probably taking the sacks and hitting some shorter passes.

49:18So maybe advantage Richardson on this day, but mostly advantage defenses. So this one's a draw. The defenses both win. Yeah.

49:26Jourdan Rodrigue:You know, I recall Shane Steichen a couple weeks ago wanting to have more clarity, commenting he wanted to have more clarity on where their quarterback situation is by now. Um, doesn't sound like he's getting much of it. So joy of joys. Finally, the Raiders and the 49ers, they had a joint practice and I'm giving it to the 49ers because it sounds like the Raiders defense. Like when, when I read something that Russell Gage is just having his way with every Raiders cornerback, Russell Gage has bounced around the league a little bit and is probably the eighth most talented, you know, 49ers receiver coming into camp and is now like their number two or their number three because nobody's healthy when he's dominating and the 49ers offense had like big day for your guy.

50:19Pearsall, you can honk about him if you want, but Kittle, McCaffrey, it sounds like both offenses had their moments, including Gino, that that was maybe closer to a draw. So that's good for the Raiders offense. But the Raiders defense, no shock. We just talked about him a lot on our last show. We don't need to repeat it, but losing a lot to a team like the 49ers.

50:38Jourdan Rodrigue:Yeah. Ted Wynn, a really great analyst over at The Athletic, was commenting on how good Ricky Pearsall looked. So if listeners don't want to believe me, believe Ted, who's right about literally everything, truly. I buy it. And fantasy football related, we're going to have a draft, by the way, next week, mock draft. You're famously not a fantasy person. You are not going to be involved. Don't worry. I'm liking Ricky Petersall. That could be a billion of histamine day for me. How about we try it that way? I would love it. And a lot of times, like the less specifically you know about fantasy strategy, where players are going, the more I think it's kind of an advantage because you know ball.

51:24It's not that complicated. And there's too much copycatting. It's kind of like the poker player who doesn't go by the rules, sometimes messes up the rest of the table. I think it would work. If you want to know like where the Raiders defense is at though, that, that trade they made last week for Thomas Booker, who was like the sixth defensive tackle on the Eagles. Pete Carroll confirmed today that he absolutely might start on the Raiders, that he's played really well. He's been playing with the starters, but it's, it's probably not a great sign that like he's coming over and he's immediately one of their better players.

51:54And then, And, you know, finally, Cowboys camp. One thing I didn't mention on our YouTube exclusive. So everyone go check out the YouTube exclusive. Some Cowboys takeaways. Had some good interviews. It was really fun up there in Oxnard. And, you know, if enough people complain or the bosses complain, maybe we'll put it out over the weekend as a podcast. I don't know. But for now, it's a YouTube exclusive. One thing I thought about watching Michael Parsons, like ignoring a problem, Jordan, tell me if you think this is true. Sometimes when things are really going bad and there's like a big problem in your life or an interpersonal issue, sometimes if you just completely ignore it, that actually is like a great way to handle it.

52:41I'm not even being sarcastic. It's a productive way to handle it because it seems like the Cowboys have completely ignored this man and it has kind of quieted down and I think everything's going to be fine?

52:52Jourdan Rodrigue:I don't know that I think that everything's going to be fine based on the vibes when I was out there a couple weeks ago. But I will say it is a bold strategy. Let's just go about pretending that the best defensive player, certainly at his position, but one of the best defensive players in the NFL right now is just wandering the sidelines and standing underneath the crazy tower structure that Jerry Jones places himself in. He's getting quality time with the special teamers. I don't know how much he has to say to Brandon Aubrey, but it was like him and the long snapper and Aubrey and the punter just chatting for like 30 minutes.

53:37So that's good for - It's almost like,

53:38Jourdan Rodrigue:are they trying to make him bored enough to agree to a contract? Because like that, I don't know that that's going to work out for you. I just, Micah Parsons is - You know, they've played this out with other players in the past. Micah Parsons is a different dude. He uses social media in a different way. He uses his platform, his own podcast in a different way. He's represented by David Muligheta, an agent who does things often in a very different way and in a way that puts his players to an advantage. This is going to be, I think, yes, it's a strategy. Let's see how it works out for him. I guess I meant like, well, if nothing else, no one's talking about it for these couple of weeks.

54:20He's just fatigued.

54:21Jourdan Rodrigue:People are like, oh, my God, it's still the same. I just sort of forgot it even existed until I saw that number 11 across the field. And I was like, wait, is that my car? Oh, yeah. He's still here. OK, so look, I'm loving this show. It's nice. It's loose. It's feeling like you took an antihistamine. I thought like we needed more to this show. So I had added all the possible cuts and trades. We're going to fly through those at the end of the show. because I think that's just good information. But before that, just a couple of news items for you, Jordan. And there's not much to add on these, so I'm just going to let the people know so that they know that the Chiefs wide receiver, Rasheed Rice, is expected to have a disciplinary hearing with the NFL on September 30th regarding his potential suspension that's coming from the crash that resulted in two third-degree felony charges.

55:12and that's all according to our insiders, Ian Rapoport and Tom Pellicero. And I was like, what is this exactly? And you know what it is? It's because the player association and Rice are appealing the suspension and the NFL, they could not come to an agreement. Usually they do and things are changed on appeal and there's no agreement. And so how that works is they have to have a hearing and that won't be till September 30th. So he will be eligible to play in the first four games of the season. They play the Chargers, Eagles, Giants, and Ravens to start the season. Any likely suspension is just kind of figuring out how long the suspension is going to be, would have to come after that.

55:53If you're a Chiefs fan, it's kind of interesting because Eagles and Ravens, two of the hardest games you'll have all season. And Chargers, the most important divisional opponent all season, technically an away game because they're in Brazil. I guess you're going to get them for four games. Like that's not a bad four game stretch to have them. Then he'll go away for some time to be determined later and he'll come back. In other legal news, the U.S. Court of Appeals for the Second Circuit found that certain claims made by Brian Flores, the former Dolphins coach, now the Vikings coordinator, should not be sent to arbitration.

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1:02:08Jourdan Rodrigue:Cuts you could do whenever. I think you could take or leave cuts. But trades, you love a trade. Okay, well, then let's start with the team you just watched, the Patriots. They weirdly, I think, have the most amount of notable players that could be cut or traded, at least that I could come up with. Kendrick Bourne is hurt right now. Could he have a market at the contract that he had for a team like San Francisco, like a late-round pick swap market? Maybe. I think he'll be on an NFL roster. He could certainly make the 49ers right now. He could make the Saints right now. I think he will be on a team.

1:02:42I don't think that team's going to be the Patriots personally. Jalen Polk, a second round pick from a year ago. I absolutely think a team out there could want to rehab his career. The problem is he has an injury. We don't know how serious that injury is. Anfernee Jennings has a lot of good tape and some people that he's coached under, played under rather. I think he could absolutely be on a team this year. I don't know if he's going to make the Patriots. And then I know you saw Kyle Duggar. What did you see from Kyle Duggar the last couple of days?

1:03:13Jourdan Rodrigue:Yeah, it's so the second day of practice was when I mostly was able to watch Kyle Duggar. And then the defense collectively seems a little bit like an odd man out and gave up a couple plays as well, including a touchdown. So that's that's tough, right? I mean, talking to the beat writers, too, they very much think that a trade that he is a big trade candidate. The contract makes anything a little bit tricky, but there was a lot of conversation about how Mike Vrabel has methodically moved away from some, if not all, most of the Belichick era, the late Belichick era players and has sort of wanted to re-infuse his own guys, guys he's familiar with, guys that they drafted specifically Mike Vrabel is drafting or having a large say in drafting.

1:04:03Jourdan Rodrigue:So I definitely think among all these guys, he's certainly someone to watch. The Jalen Polk situation is interesting because the injury, it might be more beneficial for the team and because of the nature, he's still on his rookie contract to IR him for the year season ending IR and then sort of revisit the topic in the in the spring, especially considering, you know, they don't really know how the rest of this receiver's room is going to pan out. That that makes a lot of sense. And Duggar is a guy who played with such aggression. and the thing I don't love to hear and will make it tough to trade.

1:04:35If they traded him, they have to take on the guaranteed money in his contract. He has a lot of money due him this year. I think it's eight or nine. They would have to take on a lot of that money, and the other team would potentially take on the rest. Is that an aggressive player who's had a couple surgeries now, and maybe he is just not able to play with the same sort of level of explosion that he did before? I'll be irresponsible here. This is probably more of an in-season trade, but I do think Tyreek Hill is a guy that Jeremy Fowler, a reporter for ESPN, said that other teams around the league are talking a lot about Tyreek Hill, whether this guy could be available.

1:05:17I think if you're just looking at like a big old name, that's like, oh, that's a surprise. It won't be a surprise. You want to know why, Jordan?

1:05:27Jourdan Rodrigue:Why, Greg? Because you listen to NFL Daily. Yeah. You could kind of see it. I found out on the ground in Minnesota. A lot of people. I'm stoked to hear how many. I was there for The Athletic. I was stoked to hear how many listeners are around. Like who are we talking? Media people? I'm not telling you. You already know. I told you already. I'm not going to tell you. With the team, high up, middle up. Not going to say it. I already told you. You're baiting me. I already told you. Not going to do it. Not going to do it. Let's go big names down. Remember Trey Hendrickson? He's still holding out. I don't really think the Bengals would consider trading him or cutting him, but I just wanted to mention he is out there.

1:06:10Will Kenny Pickett actually make the Browns? Like, why keep four quarterbacks? Maybe he can enter this race again next week, but by then, the race is over. It's going to be Joe Flacco. I'm breaking the news right now. That's not official. Literally, no one's reporting that. I would, you know, stand on the tiny table. Let's put it that way and say Joe Flacco is starting week one. So then like why keep Kenny Pickett? I don't know if it's a trade. This is more of a cut probably.

1:06:38Jourdan Rodrigue:I mean, listen, I still think Dylan Gabriel is a potential trade target because people did inquire reportedly about into him during the draft and after the draft. And honestly, Shador, Greg, I got to say, I'm kind of proud of us. I will say this. Like I'm going to do the thing that's pretty annoying and obnoxious where I toot our own horn or pat ourselves on the back. We're wearing matching shirts, by the way. I don't know if the listener knew that. It's like we're starting to emerge into one mind, and I'm a little concerned about that. But it's like Shador was exactly, if you watched him and you sort of understood, you're not reaching for the moon and the stars with this guy, but he's got some tools.

1:07:17Jourdan Rodrigue:He's got some traits. I always said he reminded me of pre, pre, pre, pre, go get the bag, Shanahan system, Kirk Cousins, some of the traits and the tools, the short throws, the mid-range throws, and the way that he can move a little bit, the calmness that he plays with. And if that guy is emerging in a way that's natural and all of that, and you want to keep him, then there was already reported interest in another guy on your roster who seems to be struggling at times in camp too. So Kenny Pickett might be a cut candidate, but I still think that Dylan Gabriel might be a trade candidate. Wow. I'd be stunned.

1:07:53I really would. It doesn't mean that you're not right here, that it'd be possible. I'd only be stunned because, how should I put this? I have tried to ask around about this. It's like, look, they took him in the third round for a reason. That's not, I think you can say from the outside without knowing anything. Like, that's not one where Jimmy Haslam is coming into the room and saying, take Dylan Gabriel, right? So the biggest decision makers on the team have a belief in him. And so that's that's all I'm saying.

1:08:25Jourdan Rodrigue:And I know of teams who are not the Browns, who are not the Rams. Just going to put that out there because I think it's well documented by now that I was able to be in their their draft spaces. But like not the Rams and who are also not the Browns. Other teams that were interested were looking at him closely as somebody they wanted to bring in their backup quarterback's room as a developmental prospect. Likes how he throws on time, likes how a lot of the concepts he ran at Oregon are very similar to a lot of the system stuff that we see prevalent around the league right now. This was a thing that was, you know, it had not, I wouldn't say relevant buzz, but it had, there were teams who were definitely looking at him prior to the draft.

1:09:02I'm putting a few, one and one together there, but they, they just seem like they would seem like they were so lost in the sauce if they're trading their third round pick after the camp, but they, that, that is where they are. This is the organization. As I, as I've mentioned now for the hundredth time on some podcast over the last decade plus that Charlie Fry started week one for and they traded him before week two. An all-time quarterback battle moment. I mean, I know it was a long time ago, but it'll never top that. He didn't make it out of the first half, Jordan, of week one. He was benched, I think it was before halftime or at halftime of week one, the starting week one quarterback.

1:09:51And then they were so embarrassed about it, they traded him before week two. That's crazy. That's what's... So I guess anything's possible. That's amazing. I still am amazed. I was at Cowboys practice and I was wondering, does Miles Sanders and Javante Williams make this team? So that could be like a quote unquote surprise cut, like one of those two guys. Chavon Diggs would be a very difficult guy to trade. That would probably be more in the season. But could he be on the way out? I just go through the rosters and I just look at names that I can't see there in 2026. And I think, OK, I'm not sure about Trevon Diggs there.

1:10:27That's just one I threw out. Total speculation. But the dots, they connect. How about Juwan Jennings? Getting a little uglier there in San Francisco. And I don't think they're not a team that has traded. They need Juwan Jennings. And yet this one would seem more possible to me than than the normal 49er situation, because he is not going to be one of their top receivers next year. They want Pierce Hall and Ayuk to be and they don't want to pay him the money. Tim Kawakami reported that he's looking for 20 million dollars a year. And they're like, I don't think they're going to get anywhere near that.

1:11:03Jourdan Rodrigue:No, and he has been sort of dealing with what the team is calling a calf injury, but what Kyle Shanahan is sort of like sneering at when he's at the lectern thing, you know, you got to ask him. He told me it's a calf. And really the subtext of the contract is sort of simmering under all of this. I think multiple things are true here. I think he is 100 % right and fair to want to get his contract redone right now because because of Brandon Ayuk's injury and that taking the recovery now taking a while into the season or projected to with still no real actual timeline for that, then yes, absolutely.

1:11:39Jourdan Rodrigue:If you're being expected to step into a bigger role, you should ask for more money. That's just you should be doing that as a human. But it's also tough because the emergence of Ricky Pearsall, it's not just Buzz. It's a real thing. I saw it with my own eyes. Other people are seeing it with their own eyes. It's a real thing. Now, I don't know that he's like going to be the full time one, especially not when Brandon Ayuk is back. But it practices. They're putting him in prototypical one position without Jawan Jennings, without Brandon Ayuk there. At the same time, Christian McCaffrey in the passing game, George Kittle in the passing game, your offense is bread and butter is still going to run through those guys, especially in the pass game.

1:12:18Jourdan Rodrigue:So it's a pretty difficult situation to be in if you're Juwan Jennings, while he is very much should be doing this in terms of trying to get what he can and what he should get being asked to be in this position. But it might get, like you said, it might get a little uglier before we're through here. Would a team give up a third round pick for Juwan Jennings? in a contract? Maybe. I guess it depends on what his actual number is. I mean, it really does depend. If he would take two for 36, something like that seems fair to me. Two for 32. Third round pick? I mean, it was Belichick's later days, but we've seen trades like this before.

1:13:03They gave up a second for Mo Sanu in the middle of the season, like a late career Mo Sanu. So it happens. Juwan Jennings is worth a lot. There'd be a lot of interest in Juwan Jennings. Yeah, I believe. All right. Just ripping through a bunch of these names I wrote down. They're just notable. When they started Travis Etienne in the preseason game and played him a lot, even though in reports in training camp, he's kind of been the back. But I was like, is that a showcase situation? Travis Etienne is on the list. Eric Armstead, that would be more of a cut. Just hasn't been able to get on the field.

1:13:33Who knows? Marquez Valdez-Scantling maybe getting boxed out by our guy, Torrey Horton in Seattle. I could see him being a cut. Trey Brown kind of falling down the depth chart in San Francisco. Trent Brown hasn't been healthy. The offensive tackle for the Texans. Luke McCaffrey, you know, because of the connections between like.

1:13:51Jourdan Rodrigue:Adam Peters. Yeah, Adam Peters. Like, I don't think they'd want to cut him, but it sounds like if it wasn't for the third round pick status, he probably would be a problematic, whether he makes the team or not. Deontay Banks, Jalen Hyatt, those would be surprises with the Giants, but maybe a trade or a cut. Sky Moore, Peyton Turner is with the Cowboys, former first round pick of the Saints. Isaiah Foskey is a guy who has taken quite high in the second round just a few years ago. I don't think he's making that Saints team. So that's always interesting. The people that you passed up for him, our friend Adam had reported that other members of that front office, Jeff Ireland specifically, wanted to take Brian Branch there, and Mickey Loomis came over the top and made them take five.

1:14:36Oh! Whoops. And, yeah, that's it. My eyes are on the Joe Mixon situation, but it wouldn't make sense to cut or trade him because, like, what would the point be? No one's going to trade for him. It's an injury situation.

1:14:51Jourdan Rodrigue:It's like, is that unless I missed something massive today when I was at practice? It's just an injury situation. Yeah, you know, like, I mean, he's still, Well, he's had some of his best year, you know, his best time there when he's healthy. So I just hate it for him because that was so out of his control. The hip drop that got him hurt before and then having a setback. I just it just stinks. You know, good player. Those are your potential. Cut candidates. Trade candidates. We're about two weeks out. The Greg list of Greg hypotheticals. well we're 12 days away as we're taping this jordan oh my god the cuts or the trade so maybe this segment would have made more sense next week as we get even closer but i wanted to be the first to do it and uh i enjoyed this i enjoyed going around all these joint practices and hearing how minnesota is where do you where do you go next i go to washington next uh so hopefully luke McCaffrey doesn't listen to this podcast.

1:15:50Jourdan Rodrigue:So no, I go to Washington next. I'm really excited because a couple conversations scheduled there about topics that interest me greatly as some of the schematic shifts and trends we're seeing in the league. And I hope to be able to formally tell Frankie Louvoo that he is the official favorite player of NFL Daily from the 2024 season. So let's go. I mean, you don't have to qualify with 2024 because then that, you know, it makes to sound like we're dumping him. We're staying with Frankie. No, I mean, we'd like to stay with him. It's an aspirational. 2025, guys, it's wide open. Any takers, you know?

1:16:24It's fair. Probably shouldn't have said that

1:16:26Jourdan Rodrigue:on a recorded podcast. Stay tuned to this. So I mentioned the YouTube of the Cowboys camp. So you guys can check that out. We will be back here on the NFL Daily feed. Sunday night, Nick Shook and I breaking down all the preseason week two takeaways. You will also hear a 40s and free agent show from me and Daniel Jeremiah in your feed in the meantime. So we're cranking along. Jordan's all over the country. She'll be back. When training camp's over we're keeping her in that studio. But yes, training camps are kind of ending and that's an ultimate. Football's back.

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