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24:17Jourdan Rodrigue:And to your point, once the little pieces and the details and all the minutiae, the timing and all of these things catch up. They've already got this fundamentally sound run game that's really popping so far this season. And they're getting blocking for it, which I think is one of the most important things. The blueprint is there. It's literally about taking the next step forward within it. Yeah. They've had two of the most dominant pass blocking games of the year. Granted, it was against Carolina and against the Nick Bosa-less 49ers, but he was not touched, literally. Not a quarterback hit on Sunday, which is crazy.

24:52And they're playing well in the running game. I think this is where Liam Cohen's Jaguars really remind me the most of the Liam Cohen Bucs. The cohesive nature from day one is the secret sauce. Travis Etienne is becoming the guy. He's leading the NFL in yards per carry right now. He's hitting the big plays. He's more patient than he's been. and the blocking, they're greater than the sum of their parts. Right now in terms of DVOA, Jordan, they're 20th in terms of passing, but they are second right now in the NFL in terms of their running game. And I know you're just a football dork at heart and a cohesive running game like this.

25:32There is nothing more fun to watch. So wrap us up with a little just love for what they are doing on the ground and why I'm really excited to watch this team the rest of the year.

25:44Jourdan Rodrigue:Well, I think it's giving everybody confidence. And I want to call back, you know, James Gladstone was on our show in the spring and his main thing was making sure they're building up front and continuing some positive pieces that were already there and continuing to build through the run game. And he said, get in the way, stay in the way in terms of blocking up your assignments and all of those things. and I just think that you can see it in some of the mannerisms and even the extracurriculars after the game. This team is feeling itself a little bit. I think rightfully so, but it's this confidence that comes with, you know your foundation is solid and that comes from the run game.

26:22Jourdan Rodrigue:I know this is a little takey, but I don't know that Liam Cohen is out there talking smack to Robert Sala after the game if they got pushed around on the line of scrimmage all game, even if they won. It's winning at the line of scrimmage. Liam Cohen's a former quarterback with a sort of a receiver's mind, clearly. Like you have to, you really have to see this, this entire, the way they're winning up front on the, you know, on offense, but also on defense, I think is just giving them a lot of all over confidence and a little bit of vibe over there. Making them a little chesty. You're right. I didn't really think about the connections here because yes, the 49ers became who they were by being the biggest, toughest team.

27:01and they were pushed around by the Jaguars who were somewhat built by Trent Balky who had the same idea back when he was with the 49ers. And yes, now the Jaguars aren't perfect. I know they're messy. They're messy. They'll have some stretch, but man, I love watching ETN and toot and run. I love watching this team. And yeah, back when we had the, around the NFL podcast, we would have a team of the podcast every, I'm not saying the Jaguars are this team, but we just wanted to give them a little shine. Felt like they deserved a little extra. They don't get enough national spotlight. You know who does get a lot of national spotlight?

27:39The Rams and the 49ers. We will talk TNF preview after this break. Duval.

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32:04Rams are favored by five and a half in this game. Brock Purdy, you know, missed the fake practices early in the week, but he did finish out that game. So I feel better about him than Ricky Pearsall, who we just might not know about going into the game. Same thing with Juwan Jennings. Pearsall has a PCL injury. Kyle Shanahan doesn't believe it's going to be long-term. Juwan Jennings didn't quite finish last week's game with a shoulder injury. Do you think the 49ers, in a world where they have these guys, let's say at least the receivers for the most part, have enough, even if they are healthy, to win this game in Los Angeles, where for most of Sean McVay's tenure, they've had a lot of success.

32:51Jourdan Rodrigue:Yeah, Demarcus Robinson revenge game a little bit here, right? Because Demarcus Robinson is back for the 49ers and he will be a factor. He'll have to be, right? I am still skeptical after, especially after watching some of the contours and the spaces and the voids that the Colts were able to find offensively. I am concerned still about their ability to defend a pass catching tight end. Tongass has been, you know, Brock Purdy's like kind of go to guy, especially in that red area with George Kittle banged up. And I do I do expect I mean, it's not reported, but I do expect Brock Purdy to play just because he did finish.

33:26Jourdan Rodrigue:He looked like he was in pain, but he did finish that game. And this is absolutely a huge game for the 49ers coming in to SoFi Stadium in mass numbers. And so I do think that this secondary for the Rams is what still remains my biggest question. And I don't know if the 49ers have the, you know, I don't know that they're going to out match them in terms of like body for body here. But in terms of scheming guys open, I still have very much my flag up, my guard, my guard rails up thinking about what the secondary is sort of culpable to with, you know, Kyle Shanahan and some of the ways that he can like sort of circle certain defensive players.

34:05Jourdan Rodrigue:and then just spam play calls right at those players. That's a concern still for me. Yeah, last year, even with a really down 49ers team and the second time around, it was a total mash unit. They played those games to where it was a final possession game. The Rams won both of them, but they were both close. Obviously, you really need Pearsall and or Jennings out there to help with the offense. I'm a little concerned, though, about their running game. This 49ers team doesn't make sense to me if Christian McCaffrey is dead last in the NFL and complete in a rush yards over expected. Huge negative.

34:44The offensive line actually passed protected pretty well last week against Jacksonville, I thought. But the run blocking hasn't been great. And they're not that injured in terms of their offensive line. They're just not playing that well. And McCaffrey's not as explosive. He leads the NFL in touches. I think about some of those old 49ers teams, Jordan. And I think like, man, they could use a Raheem Mostert. You know what I mean? They could just use a little bit of more juice in terms of their running game.

35:09Jourdan Rodrigue:Yeah, and they went out and they got Brian Robinson, right? To try to see if maybe they could spell Christian McCaffrey a little bit. You're not seeing a lot of that happening so far. And this is especially like we mentioned earlier in the show about how the Jaguars defense was hitting. I mean, John Jennings, part of it. Yeah, it's a shoulder or whatever it is. But also he was crunched between two defenders, took a kidney shot that set him on his back, flat on his back for a little while during that game on the sideline as trainers were working on him a little bit. Like these, this is a banged up team that is really, really loading up the workload early on for Christian McCaffrey, a player who we know his injury history and coming into this game on a short week.

35:52Jourdan Rodrigue:And yes, the Rams have been banged up to their interior offensive line. is still a little shaky. Justin Diedich played well at left guard. But if you're looking at the Rams defense, which is pretty healthy overall in their run game, I can't imagine you're not trying to use at least a little bit of a changeup if you're Kyle Shanahan to try to get some power going a little bit and get Christian McCaffrey working in the passing game. Yeah, I totally agree with that. And I know Robinson's not like a big play guy either, but if nothing else, you know, use him on the goal line, use him to just take some load off of Christian McCaffrey.

36:28I really love the way Matthew Stafford played last week. In general, the way he's adjusted to this offensive line, giving up a lot of quick pressure. He has the lowest time to throw when he's under pressure of any quarterback in the league. So he is making quick decisions. He has the lowest pressure to sack ratio of his entire career. But I don't think he's bailing. As you watch on YouTube, you see some of the dimes he had last week. Like, I don't think he's bailing out of plays early. He's just playing at a high level and playing smart. And Puka Nakua right now, Jordan, is literally on pace for like 170 catches or so.

37:06Like, remember, we were like 1-1-A. Well, not so much. Devontae has 17 catches. And I think Devontae's presence is actually opening things up a little bit for Puka versus the other way around. Puka is just absolutely in his prime right now.

37:19Jourdan Rodrigue:It's so funny to me. I mean, he's like pretty unguardable right now, right? And he's doing everything and he's sort of getting him into that 11 and a half personnel because he's playing tight end sometimes within the blocking structure on run plays and he's doing all these things. And you're right. It is interesting. It's like, at what point are... And I think he's got plenty of respect around the league, but it's like they're still almost leveraging things toward Devontae Adams. And it's like Puka is destroying these defenses. Nobody has had a solid coverage plan for him yet and he's making every throw or making every catch.

37:54Jourdan Rodrigue:I'm watching those Matthew Stafford throws and our friend Nate Tice always does a Monday Matthew Stafford cut-ups every week. And like, I will never quit him. I won't. I won't do it. Rams, our listeners can get as mad at me as they want for talking too much about Matthew Stafford, but I will never quit him because he makes the sickest throws you will ever see. And I am never out with that guy. Never out. Well, I tell you what, He is, I'm going to, while I'm over here, I'm buying him a one-way ticket to quarterback island, barring an injury, you know, cross your fingers. He is playing like a top five quarterback right now.

38:31And it's the biggest reason why I like the Rams in this game. I don't necessarily like five and a half, but I don't have to worry about that, at least for this purpose. Look, they don't have a pass rush right now. The 49ers without Nick Bosa have Bryce Huff, and that's about it. Michael Williams is a good player. He's not like a pure pass rusher. So Stafford ultimately against a quarterback, Brock Purdy, who looked like he was injured last week, did not play particularly well, was pretty inaccurate. It's just too much of a mismatch in a game that I think the Rams are going to score. I don't know if the 49ers can keep up.

39:05I will take the Rams.

39:07Jourdan Rodrigue:If anything is going to swing this game, in my opinion, toward the 49ers, it's going to be plays that are made by these linebackers, Fred Warner and Dee Winters, who are all over the field. and because they cannot rush the passer, I do expect Dee Winters, the way Robert Sala we've seen earlier in the season, using him in the blitz, creating pressure, simulating like he's going to pressure and then dropping and really covering well as well, flying all over the field. I think that if this is going to swing, that's going to be where it does. But I just think the Rams, A, are healthier and B, body for body, pound for pound at almost every position on the roster are just as nearly a complete team as it gets in the NFL right now.

39:45Jourdan Rodrigue:I'm picking the Rams. This is what Kyle Shanahan likes. Everyone doubting him going into a big game against the Rams. Ominous respect to Kyle. Ominous respect. Don't make eye contact. If you thought he was in a bad mood after losing to Liam Cohen, who knows who Robert Sal is going to tell that he's going to kill after this game. Okay, let's get to someone who would never say something like that on the football field. It's a Walter Payton Man of the Year Award winner. And yes, I'm throwing it to you, Jordan. Have a great time talking to Calais Campbell. I will see you guys on our preview show on Wednesday.

40:24Jourdan Rodrigue:Okay, NFL Daily listeners. It is an unbelievable honor to welcome our next guest here today, Calais Campbell. Once again, an Arizona Cardinal. Thank you very much for coming back. 18th NFL season. Calais, I just have one major question for you that I've wondered for the last probably about 10 years, how the heck are you still doing this at such a high level, showing up all over the stat sheet, week over week over week, as still one of the best defensive players in the NFL in your 18th NFL? It breaks my brain. How are you doing this? Well, I will say I'm surprised myself. You know, I'm just grateful that I get to still go out there and perform at a high level.

41:09I love this game so much with all my heart. I'm really a fan that's lucky enough to play it. and so for me I just dedicate myself to it I put a lot of work in hard work does pay off but this is just God you know I'm very grateful that God's blessing with the ability to go out there and produce it produce at a high level and hopefully keep it going

41:29Jourdan Rodrigue:I know I never want to see you stop playing I know that's very selfish of me but I grew up in Phoenix and you know I actually interned for the radio station out there I know you're very familiar with Arizona sports out there Ron Wolfley and all the guys and I was an intern for them in 2015 and I was gathering sound in the locker room and I was squeezed right at the edge of the Calais Campbell post game scrum that always would surround you to hear you talk about everything that happened during the game and you will not remember this but I will never forget it and I was I was squeezed out of it by some of the cameras and you turned to me at the very end and you asked me if I got everything I needed and I was just a baby intern at the time.

42:10Jourdan Rodrigue:And for you to notice that and to take an extra second. I mean, you've always been such a presence, Calais, not just on the field, but in the locker room. And I see all of these shots. This Cardinals defense plays their butts off. They play so hard and you're a huge part of that. And I see these shots of you on the sideline, always giving these galvanizing speeches and keeping people's heads in the game. And I guess over the years, you've always done that, But how have you developed that? Where do you look to to find these motivational conversation starters to find the things that inspire you to then talk to others?

42:48Jourdan Rodrigue:And I see you post a lot on your Instagram as well. And I'm kind of wondering where your curiosity in that space comes from of motivating people and then letting it all out on game day. Yeah, I think a lot of my motivation, you know, I love the game of football. And I want to be really, really good at it. And the best thing about football is you need a team. You can't do it by yourself. And so you have to be able to inspire other people to go and be at the best version of themselves, be at elite level for you guys to win. And because that is a big part of it, you know, you have to learn about motivation, how to get people to, you know, sacrifice self and become part of a team.

43:26and that's just, it's a challenge. But over the years, you know, even when I was in high school, I've always had this mentality. In college, same thing. So over the years, I just kind of try different things, figure out what works. But one thing for sure is you have to over-communicate. You have to talk to guys. You have to tell them, remind them all the time, like, hey, this is the most important play of the game. This is the most important drive of the game. Where we are right now, there's nothing, nowhere else we'd rather be. Like, lock in, breathe, get your breath. you know, whatever you have to do to get ready for this next drive to be the most important one.

43:58Jourdan Rodrigue:Where do you go to, to find that for yourself? I know you're such a competitor and you have that drive intrinsically, but you know, keeping yourself like locked in the way that you have at such a high level for, you know, almost two decades now, like, do you, what are your books that you like to read? What do you listen to? Do you do breath work? How are things, what are things that keep you centered and ready to kind of let the monster out of the box a little bit when you have to? Yeah, you know, I have a great support team, you know, between like, you know, just some of my brothers and sisters and just like, you know, some of my best friends, you know, I'll bounce ideas of things I'm thinking, you know, off of my best friends, we talk all the time about like, just motivational tactics and the way of going about doing things.

44:42My wife does a good job of keeping me grounded and keeping my head, you know, look forward. But I also will like watch a lot of you know old Michael Jordan and Kobe Bryant videos and um you know Ray Lewis speeches and stuff like that too so you know kind of just like always looking like okay who are the best leaders and what can I learn from them you know what can I use that's gonna allow for me to be a better leader and um but uh but a lot of it too though is just a natural instinct you know like sometimes it's just like staying present there on my feet are figuring out what my real goals are, right?

45:17What are my goals? And, you know, usually the goals are to win and perform at a high level on the football field as a team. Well, then what can I do? What's in my power to make that happen? You know, I feel like I can only maximize so much of my physical stuff. I just physically, I have to, you know, move slow and tread a little bit lightly during the week. But where I can get better at is studying, you know, trying to help other guys understand what their role is and how they can be more effective with it. So a lot of how I can be effective and impact the game comes to the mind and how I can help other guys.

45:55Jourdan Rodrigue:You know, it's interesting. I know it's a point of pride for you that you are known around the league and pursued every time you're a free agent because of what you bring to a culture in part. But the real people who know ball and watch you every year know that you still bring it and you still are playing at such a high level. I guess I know the culture thing is a point of pride for you, but what's the point of pride being like, okay, I'm not just a culture guy. Like I'm coming in, I'm going to earn my snaps and I'm going to make splash plays. I'm going to get my giant hand up there and bat your passes down every year.

46:27Jourdan Rodrigue:I'm going to rush the passer. I'm going to stop the run. What, what kind, like, is that sort of like a little edge that you still have? Like, Hey, I'm not just in here to motivate people. I'm here to play ball too. Oh yeah. You know, that's a big part of it too. Like even, even when, you know, I've been a free agent a bunch pretty much every year the last few years. And I've heard a lot of pitches and teams trying to get me to come there. And when they lead with me just being like a vocal leader, it kind of like rests me the wrong way a little bit because that's coming automatically. You know you don't get that.

46:56But you also got to see me as a baller still too because I can play football still at an elite level. And part of me, part of my motivation is proving it, right? Proving it because, I mean, everybody thinks you're going to fall off. Not everybody. But a lot of people think you're going to fall off. They think that when you get to be 39 years old, you can't do it at an elite level anymore. And most of the time, they're right. But part of my motivation is going out there and proving them all. And it's a daily process. Dalvin Thomason, he's a great teammate of mine, but he always challenged me pretty much every day.

47:26Like, I don't care what you did in the past. None of that matters no more. What you going to do right now? And I'm like, you're right. Because if I try to play football again, all my history and all my legacy, there'll be a time for that when I retire. but right now none of that matters all that matters right now is what I can do for this team today and so uh I have great teammates around me to keep me grounded keep me focused on the main thing but uh my I would like to be able to make impact you know I told myself I didn't want to just join any team I wanted to join the team I thought I could make an impact on and off the

47:56Jourdan Rodrigue:field yeah and off the field too Calais I want to talk about that because we see it all over the tape year after year. But you also, you're a Walter Payton man of the year. I mean, people don't forget like the impact. I know as a Phoenix native, like I will never forget the impact that you've made in the communities everywhere you've been. You always do such amazing work in the community. And right now you're working on the Calais Comes Home, Homecoming with a Heart campaign. Can you tell us a little bit more about the work that you're doing? Yeah. So it's kind of a two-part thing. First things first is the House of Refuge, who I've worked with for a long time.

48:39It seems like it's been over a decade. And they really help people going through homelessness, which I personally experienced when I was a kid. And usually it's single mothers with a few kids who were trying to get back on their feet. So we're donating weekly based off my stats. But really, the big thing is trying to bring awareness and just try to use a platform to create exposure for them. And then as well as I'm picking nine other charities, they get one home game and one away game where I'm trying to encourage fans to donate alongside me. But I'm donating based off of my stats. And so that's part of another reason why I want to perform well, because I want to be able to utilize some of the resources and bring it to some of these cool charities who are all Phoenix-based or doing some really good stuff.

49:28And I really want to just really shine some light on them and show the Phoenix community who they are and what they're all about.

49:35Jourdan Rodrigue:Calais, when you're helping to provide resources for people who are experiencing homelessness, I know that's a, like you said, it's a very personal thing for you and a part of your story. I guess, what can you share with the audience, with the listeners about common misconceptions emotions about, you know, what they see versus what you're actually experiencing when you are out there, you know, in, in the buildings, helping people in, you know, in the communities, helping people, um, and, and really what you want people to know about this work that you're doing. Yeah. So, um, a lot of times it's very similar to my family's story where you just follow hard times, right?

50:13You know, uh, I know sometimes you can get the narrative, yeah, like people were homeless, you know, for whatever reason, right? Most of the time it's just you feel hard times, right? Misfortune comes at the wrong time. You're not prepared for it and you have to just make do it. You're just trying to tread water and figure it out so you can get back into a good spot. And so for my family growing up, both of our parents lost a job at the same time. You know, we ended up getting evicted and everywhere to go. And, you know, we found a family homeless shelter similar to what House of Refuge does, where they keep families together.

50:46and we were there for like six months until my parents can get back on their feet. And then coming out of that, we moved to a one-bedroom home for another like six months or so and then we ended up moving to a five-bedroom house after that. And it was just like, we just needed somebody to help us for a short period of time before we can get back on our feet. And that's the same thing with a lot of these families that you're dealing with. A lot of them just need a little bit of help for a short period of time until they get back on their feet and then you get them to a place where they can be self-sufficient and then go out there and, you know, live a normal life again.

51:18And so, you know, it's just like, man, like, you know, I think a lot of times you try to encourage people to realize, like, you know, just a helping hand. You know, some people just need a helping hand. It's not a forever, you know, helping for the rest of your life. You just got to help them for a short period of time. And then, you know, most people can get back on their feet and do great things in this world.

51:34Jourdan Rodrigue:Well said. And it's been so impressive. You are like the living embodiment of a helping hand, not just in the community, but on the field as well. he's still going guys somehow some way at a high level Calais it was like a personal and also a really great honor to talk to you today thank you so much for taking the time everybody go check out Calais comes home homecoming with a heart campaign we'll make sure to share these links on social and within the episode description as well Calais good luck this week man we really appreciate it Thank you for your time. I appreciate you. That was the legend.

52:13Jourdan Rodrigue:Calais Campbell still doing incredible work on and off the field. Personal hero of mine. Stoked to be able to talk to him today. You guys, this is a pretty fun show. Honestly. I mean, I got to sit in the power chair. Had to lower it a little bit. Shots of Greg. Greg and Patrick Claibon and myself will be back later this week with the preview shows. And guys, week five. Right. Right. Let's do it.

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