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19:08And then I love C.J. Allen. I'm going to talk about him on the 40s and free agents coming up, linebacker from Georgia. And if he fell all the way to the Texans as kind of like maybe the next Aziz outside here, that would be great. But also if he made it to Todd Bowles as Bucs or Brian Flores as Vikings and is at 18, 19, I think he is worth a pick that high. I think he's a really explosive, like fun player, and they would know how to use him. So I think like that combination would be fun. I think he's a little underrated in this class. All right, next one. Who is your favorite draft prospect you've ever evaluated?

19:45This is from Hortz and all on IG.

19:48Patrick Claybon:Well, mine, of course, played college football in the state of Kentucky. And you may think I'm going to say Lamar. No, it's Josh Hines Island. There was so much discussion about Bosa in that draft. And, you know, this was, you know, I still watch a lot of SEC football, but I was still like habitually watching so much SEC football. And that first Kentucky win over Florida in 25 years, just watching him play. I'm like, this is it. This is it. And all of the Bosa comp and everything is like, there was this vast gap. I thought that you were going to be able to get that same quality player there and vindicated.

20:22Patrick Claybon:I was right. The key is being right.

20:25Gregg Rosenthal:I picked mine that way too. Although I guess I didn't because one I was wrong about, but it still was my favorite. Go ahead. Okay, mine, a little personal to tinge to it too, Patrick, because I appreciated being right about this one, but in not the way you would have thought, because I think everybody knew that Christian McCaffrey was going to be a good NFL player, if not a great NFL player. However, there was so much conversation that was so irritating about Christian McCaffrey when he was coming out and certainly up into that Heisman campaign as well. And you remember the narrative narratives.

21:01Gregg Rosenthal:Like he couldn't run between the tackles and all these things that I remember going through like snap by snap. And actually he was the first player. This was my first full, full season. I had the previous season, a little bit of it, my first full season and off season covering the NFL as a, as a reporter. And that was my first like real snap by snap charting that I did for pre-draft stuff. And I was like so angry that this narrative and And then even carried through into the story that I did at The Athletic about a Heisman voter literally telling Christian McCaffrey he didn't vote for him because he didn't watch enough of his games in college because they were on too late at night.

21:44Gregg Rosenthal:Which me, being the petty person that I am, led me to do a snap-by-snap study of what percentage of his snaps actually did come at night. 87 % of his snaps came after 10.30 p.m. Eastern time. It's a statistic I will never, ever forget. He was robbed and I still, well, maybe not. Turns out they were both good. Yeah. Wait, who won the Heisman? Derek Henry. That's the thing. Yeah, no, he wasn't robbed. As I say, our king, Derek Henry, there's no way. However, it was a really great exercise for me in all seriousness of actually going through the fact-finding process at the NFL level. I was very, very inexperienced at the time.

22:24I always remember watching that draft class in terms of the running backs, like one after another. And it was just like, wait, what's good? What? Like Joe Mixon, Joe Mixon was such a good prospect. I mean, he had the off field stuff, but as a player, like it was crazy. I was like, Alvin, Alvin Kamara is going to go where Christian McCaffrey is going to go where? And then he actually went higher than people expect.

22:46Gregg Rosenthal:All those guys. He went top eight. Not all of them because Leonard Fournette goes fourth overall atop that class. But then Dalvin Cook in the later rounds, you had James Conner and Aaron Jones. That is a sick. People can argue all they want about the Fournette. Fournette, when he was at his best in the NFL, you cannot criticize him too much, I don't think. I can. He was like an average starter at his best. Like he wasn't a bad player, but they took him over Patrick Mahomes. Miles Jack was knocked down. Listen, you can criticize the teams. Sure, do that. But that was a badass class overall. I agree.

23:21I just mean like in a class where you had McCaffrey sitting right there. I think it's okay to criticize him a little bit that you took the inferior player at the same position.

23:29Gregg Rosenthal:You can criticize the team, Greg. As I'm saying, the players are badasses. Fournette was solid. He was good. Super Bowl winner. Super Bowl winner. You can't take that away. I think we all are showing our, like you always remember your first, like when you were just starting out maybe in the business. The first one you were right about. Like the first one. And Jay Cutler definitely wasn't my first because that's a few drafts in for when I was working at Roto World. But I just remember the wars that were being waged. Like the Jay Cutler Hive back then, who was like, no, he's actually better than Liner and Vince Young.

24:03And he ended up going very high. He was a fascinating prospect to watch because he had nothing around him at Vanderbilt. And you were like, wow, this guy is incredible. So Cutler stands out to me. but similar to that Robert Quinn at UNC because like I think I tend to favor guys who have just such incredible first step suddenness because that doesn't take maybe the greatest scout in the world to be able to see and you can see that with Robert Quinn. AJ Green and Julio in college were just kind of like outrageous players. I'm throwing out a lot of people and then one I was totally wrong about but I will always defend because I still think he was a better pro than people realize was Ronnie Brown at Auburn.

24:42I just love Ronnie Brown at Auburn. I think that is a hell of a player. You feel like you were wrong? I mean, he got taken two overall. Would they draft him that way again? But I think he was much better as a pro than people really realized anyways. Change the game. All right, I'm standing behind my Ronnie Brown. And Drake may, honestly. Drake may in the mix. Even before he got taken by the Patriots.

25:04Gregg Rosenthal:Oh my God, the argument was, will he go one or two? Right. Really? Well, I'm just saying, it just said favorite. I'm not saying I was on a limb. Jordan, I might say you a statement

25:13Patrick Claybon:to the haters and the doubters that said Drake will never amount to anything. This isn't about the doubters. I'm saying, like, who is just the most fun to watch? I mean, Lamar was up there, too. Yeah, I didn't wear a lot of doubters there. I didn't want to be a homer. Yeah, there's a lot of doubters there. You have the number one pick in the draft, but you have to only draft based on coolest name in this class. Who would it be? And this is from Brandon Laurie Wright on Twitter. coolest name number one pick Patrick it's Casey Concepcion that is cool I think because there's also a disambiguation on Wikipedia because there's a Filipina actress and singer also named Casey Concepcion that's how cool the name is

25:59Gregg Rosenthal:I love that it's like a inception like you can I like names where you can make puns out of them the first time he gets behind a defense we could call it Incepcion you know I feel like people are overthinking Just slip through their conscious. A lot of like, yeah, drops. Yeah, drops are important. They're not that sticky. You know, Terrell Owens dropped a lot of passes too. Mine was, I didn't really have to do a deep dive on this. This was the most movie star ass type football name. I think you have my number one pick too. Sonny style. I know. I don't overthink it. What a freaking name. How much?

26:32It sounds like a fake name in a football movie. It's so cool. And the cool thing is when you hear him and when you think about his playing profile, he feels and sounds like a Sonny Styles, which is he's kind of like low wattage, but very much in control. Almost like Keanu Reeves in an action. He's not going to say much, but he's a total badass. That's Sonny Styles.

26:56Gregg Rosenthal:I love it. That was my pick too. Some Monoville mentions. Jennings Dunker. That's pretty good. That's cool. Offensive lineman. D 'Angelo Pond. I like that. Smaller cornerback type. D 'Angelo Pond. The Monty Pond scene. Except a sword from a woman in a pond. Let's take a break and we'll come back with some more questions in a minute. So tight in a pond.

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31:03Back on NFL Daily. Big week on the show. Looking ahead to next week. We're going to be previewing the edge position, the cornerback position, the running backs, the tight ends, the quarterbacks. That's all this week. We're also going to do just things we're looking forward to in terms of the draft. It's draft season. It's a sprint. One story you guys talked about, and you and Nick did a great job last Monday. Generous. Jordan. And you talked about the Dexter Lawrence trade request. James Heisman asked, do you see a scenario where they trade Lawrence and Kavon get capital?

31:38Gregg Rosenthal:I wasn't sure if James Heisman meant this as a double, like that they would be a package. Yes, as both. I sort of looked at it separately first saying like, yeah, I can absolutely see Dexter Lawrence getting traded. It seems like because John Harbaugh was so eager to then remark that everybody is tradable, the second Kayvon was brought up that maybe he's not the player that they're getting a lot of calls on right now. But yeah, I guess reframing the context of the question. Absolutely. I could see a team or them even saying, hey, we'll throw in a player. we don't maybe don't really see as a fit on our roster anymore to make a trade happen.

32:20Gregg Rosenthal:I think that this Dexter Lawrence situation, I know that there's a lot being made about the contract and working the contract out over time and all of that. But I could see teams being incredibly, incredibly interested in particularly the closer we get to the draft and watching how the board falls in actually making that a reality. I think they might be willing to do it, too. I think the chances of him getting traded are a little higher than it's been talked about.

32:47Patrick Claybon:I feel like a lot of it just comes down to standard negotiation and playing this thing out. I would think that Harbaugh is, you know, I'm not even mentioning Joe Shane. I feel like he's just happy to be a part of the festivities. But, like, I think it's more of a win now situation. And I don't know what, you know, what the 27 and 28 picks would be doing. right for that you're trading Lawrence and or cave on your you're immediately hurting your strength and yet I I do think they might take a little longer view when it comes to Lawrence and for the right picks it does make some sense would the Bears really draft another tight end in the first round like I'm seeing in some mocks that's from best planet on earth on Instagram and Jordan with an aggressive shake of the head, a nod, a yes.

33:40Gregg Rosenthal:I think they would because Ben Johnson wants to activate multiple tight ends at once in this scheme. And yes, they have Cole Komet, but he's turning 27. And so you always have to be, or turning 28 this season, I believe. And you always have to be replenishing high volume positions within an offense, especially with a skill guy. And in this case, the tight end position in this scheme is just as much considered a skill guy as your top receiver would be, for example. So, yes, I think this is a position that they'll keep replenishing and especially to make sure that it's cost-controlled with young players by the time Caleb Williams' contract comes due.

34:17Gregg Rosenthal:I absolutely think so.

34:20Patrick Claybon:I just think it's more of a situation with regards to the players that are available.

34:26Gregg Rosenthal:Yeah, that too.

34:27Patrick Claybon:If Kenyon Sadiq is there, yeah, that's one thing. I don't know if this is a class that's deep enough, like last year's tight end class was, where I think you could make an easier case for, you know, a large amount of tight ends going in the first couple of rounds. So I think, yes, this is something that the polls and Johnson would do. I don't feel like it's likely this year. Yeah, he's a good compliment. I mean, yeah, no single player is probably likely to get traded, but it wouldn't it wouldn't totally shock me. Next one is from Liam Lodge NFL draft on this. okay, how many quarterbacks in the first three rounds?

35:02So if we assume Ty Simpson gets taken in the first three rounds, which I don't think is 100%, but it seems likely that we get taken third round. It's basically a question. Does anyone else fit in there? You say no, Patrick.

35:18Patrick Claybon:No, I just don't see the value in, you know, not to diminish like the Carson Becks of the world or the rest of this draft class, but I'm constantly looking back at, you know, we're seeing Drew Aller highlights if you're watching us on YouTube or, you know, over on the Fast channel, but there's just, I don't see the players there. Garrett Nussmeyer is on the consensus board in the first three rounds for what it's worth. He would probably be the most likely, but I don't think so. All these guys seem like day three guys, so the question is, where does Ty Simpson go? Daniel Jeremiah thinks the Cardinals are really a team to watch for him.

35:59Would that be, you know, at the top of round two? Who knows?

36:03Patrick Claybon:It's another reminder that the guy who I would have had with the best name in this class, Trinidad Chambliss, to me should have probably come out. The fact that we get past those two quarterbacks and there's nothing. He would have made it three, but I'm going to agree with you. I'm going to go two players. With players staying longer in colleges, do teams value the experience gain or would they prefer to develop in-house? Thanks. Love the show. That's from Mason. And I think this is a question with look, we we still have some COVID year players in the draft. Keontae Scott, who I like a lot as a slot player from Miami, it played six years in college.

36:38You're getting different waivers for various reasons of why guys can play longer. longer. And so I think it's a question that some of these guys that you're interviewing for power players, Jordan, will be asking themselves, like, would we rather have more of a finished product, a smart 24-year-old, or would we rather have a 21-year-old that's a little more raw?

36:58Gregg Rosenthal:Yeah, it depends, first of all, on the team, depends on the coaching staff. There's so many variables, obviously, of how fast can you onboard that player into being a real, real player contributor into your system. So that aside, one thing I have noticed when I'm kind of on the ground talking to these scouts and all of that year over year here is a tonal shift, especially now that we kind of it's still the Wild West. We have more of an understanding of what NIL is and what the post-COVID years are and what all of this is going to be when you're looking at it from an NFL perspective, looking into the college dynamics.

37:35Gregg Rosenthal:So there's been a shift. It used to be that these players and I saw it with my own as being in these interviews where these players would come in and they would talk to these scouts about how they feel like NIL is going to ruin football and saying everything that they think the scout wants to hear. And even though you're sitting there like, no, dude, make money. Like, what are you saying? But saying the things that they're maybe coached or trained that they think the NFL team wants to hear. And over the last couple of years, especially I've seen a real shift in people wanting older players on their teams, People wanting players who have seen more football on their teams.

38:12Gregg Rosenthal:Again, caveat, so many variables. Injury history is one of them. I know, Greg, you hate old quarterbacks for that reason when they come out. No, Tyler sucks standing tall for all the old quarterbacks. You hated him when he was coming out because he was older. But that's a real tonal shift that I'm noticing. And the thing that goes hand in hand with this is now there is a significant trend over the last three years of the second contract that these players sign. It is more player friendly. It's also becoming more team friendly. It's shorter term. It's average three year deal versus maybe a four or five.

38:44Gregg Rosenthal:And so that is going part and parcel with we're OK with a player who's a little bit older who is coming out. It's a really fascinating sort of cycle that we're moving through right now.

38:55Patrick Claybon:Yeah, and I also think it's just a reflection of the players who are being compensated now are able to stay in and be compensated for their labor as a college football player, which is leading to guys staying more, which is leading to more good players staying more. where teams have always liked talent. They would prefer to take talent. You could see one season of Jamar Chase like, oh, okay, yeah, we can go ahead and sit out. We want that guy. You don't need experience. The experience is just a reflection of your relative power that you had to use with the talent that you could get there. Teams want talent.

39:30Patrick Claybon:They've always wanted it. Right. I think age, if anything, once you get past the first 50, 60 picks or whatever, it's not going to be viewed as a bad thing because of what you're saying of guys who can come in and contribute right away. And when you're talking about the higher ceiling guys early, like, yeah, the tie is going to go to the younger players, I think, because you're hoping that they develop more than the older players do. But there's a risk in that. The more data that you're getting from these older players, the better. I'm just saying, like, from a really top of the draft type of view, like if you're talking like a 21-year-old quarterback and a 24, like, yeah, you'll take the 21 if he's that good.

40:06It's time for the off-season ride-along presented by Toyota. Let's go to most and least favorite defensive schemes in the NFL. That is a wild question.

40:13Gregg Rosenthal:And offensive. Yeah, like offensive and defensive. Just favorite scheme. Patrick.

40:22Patrick Claybon:Because there's so much tree discussion. I like that Matt LaFleur doesn't feel like he's in the tree. And so I will take Matt LaFleur, especially if I could add a caveat. When Malik Willis is starting, Matt LaFleur is my favorite offensive scheme in the NFL.

40:39Gregg Rosenthal:I had a Matt LaFleur caveat as well. Oh, wow. I said specifically when Tucker Craft was healthy. That was my Matt LaFleur caveat. And yeah, everyone, all of you guys in the collective listening audience, you can groan right now. It's Rams 49ers for me. It's been that. You guys know this. The way it's just because it keeps evolving. It keeps evolving. And it's so interesting, like to watch the different permutations based on personnel and based on the front offices and who, what types of players they gravitate toward. And then the scheme shifting and then the quarterbacks as well. Um, I just think that it's been a lot of really cool show your work football over the last, uh, 10 years or so.

41:24Gregg Rosenthal:And, um, but yeah, I love that. I have that for the Matt La Fleur when Tucker craft is healthy. I could even go Matt La Fleur when Malik Willis is on the field, Just like that's amazing. I thought about historically to the Mike Martz scheme was so insane. I like to me, that was like the offensive version of what Brian Flores is in the middle of right now. Yeah, I think we're going to look back on these Brian Flores. Yours is like, whoa, that was crazy. And he's having an impact on other defenses, too. So that certainly would be my defensive pick. And then I like I think you go back to some of those Rex Jets defenses, which are pretty closely connected to the his his dad's buddy Ryan.

42:08Gregg Rosenthal:Ollie Connelly wrote the best the best article, the best piece. I don't want to reduce it, calling it an article. It's a masterpiece. The best thing I've read in like five years reading about football. Ollie Connelly wrote it about the Rex Ryan influence. And then, yeah. How about the Joe Burrow offense? To me, he's one of the best game designers and play callers. Joe Burrow, the Cincinnati Bengals. Specifically Joe Burrow. That's a shot. My least favorite was last year's Falcons offense, in part because they betrayed my beloved pistol formation. And I've loved what D 'Amico Ryans and Matt Burke do in Houston because it's relatively simple, but they're just better at it than you are.

42:48Gregg Rosenthal:Like, it's so badass. That was the off-season ride-along presented by Toyota. Because when people are the destination, your ride is important. Learn more at Toyota.com and find the vehicle that fits your people. The next question, Conan, Irish Eagles on Blue Sky. Everyone talks worst to first. I want to hear you guys on the opposite. First place teams most likely to come in last. Some early prediction stuff. We'll try to avoid that this early, you know, in the offseason. But the candidates would be the Pats, the Steelers. You know, both of those, you know, they would have to finish below for the Pats, you know, the Jets and the Dolphins.

43:24The Steelers would have to finish below the Browns. the Jags who'd have to finish below the Titans and obviously the rest of the division the Broncos the Eagles the Bears the Seahawks and the Panthers I heard from one listener on Blue Sky that was like you make me feel bad about the Panthers I just want you to like the Panthers it doesn't

43:44Patrick Claybon:mean that we don't like the Panthers it's just two games was the difference between first and last it's probably the Panthers or the Bears and that's because of the natures of their division because you could see a last place finish in the NFC North being decent. And the bear is just taking a step back for whatever reason. And then the Panthers, similarly, if they take a little step back and that's a balanced division, you could see it.

44:10Gregg Rosenthal:I Greg, you've said this before, and I really agree with you on it. The Eagles to me have a huge amount of variance. That's spicy. And I think that the Broncos do too. I think they have a massive amount of variance. We saw it off a cliff at the end of last season when Bo Nix got hurt. But I do think on the other hand, the Broncos are going to once again be one of the most contention worthy teams. But I just think the variance is so significant.

44:38Patrick Claybon:Got a pick. Yes. It's the Panthers. That's why. Okay. Yeah. Would you rather have three good starters from a draft class or one hall of famer? That's easy. It's a human, not a human nature. It's a me nature thing. Like I would, I'd rather have one hole in one than have really good, really good rounds all year. I'm not taking pictures and telling people about that one, those, those really good rounds for the rest of my life. I'll take the hole in one. Yeah. The hall of famer can just change everything. And he also wrote, this is from lucky to be here on blue sky, a merely capable starter. So the word merely there.

45:10Yeah. You get the hall of famer that can change anything.

45:13Gregg Rosenthal:If you had said, if you had said like good starters, that's a little tougher of a question, but merely capable is like, okay, that you can be easily replaced. My only thing is that I don't think it's good team building to chase outliers. And so for me, I'm like, I build. This is assuming he is a Hall of Famer. Like, you got it right. But that's the thing. We're also assuming position. Aaron Donald's a Hall of Famer, and they lost like crazy those first several years, and they didn't have a quarterback. So once they got the quarterback, who's also going to be a Hall of Famer, that's a debate for another time.

45:44Gregg Rosenthal:Like, you know what I mean? Like, I just really think, for me, my method of team building would be to not chase outliers and instead to build complimentary traits. I would love to stumble upon a hall of famer, you know, just as a treat. The, the same user also asked, why as I age, do I feel like I care less about football? Oh, that was an interesting one.

46:06Patrick Claybon:I think it's time. We used to have so much of it. And there were like entire decades where I saw like every, every single shot that went up in March, like all 68 of Tigers shots on Sunday, like every single game in the NBA playoffs. And as like, as we get older, like the amount of things that we have to do and need to do just, they add up. I think that it's okay to have evolving relationships with sports teams, with sports in general, with specific sports like football. And I think this does and can happen as you get older that like you might care less about football right now. And then in seven or eight years, you'll find that you care more about it.

46:47Or you might kind of get sick of one team for a little while and then come back to them because you're like prioritizing and sometimes it's nice to give a little break. So maybe you'll come back to it.

46:56Gregg Rosenthal:I hope it means that you care more about other things that are bringing you joy and richness to your life. What else is there? As he says, as he returns from a week with his family, rank them from best to worst. before sunrise, before sunset, and before midnight. Okay, I have a really stupid question, by the way. These are movies. Are these movies? I thought they were done. I mean, you could have just moved. I went crazy literal. I knew. Oh, you went literal. I went literal, yeah. I went totally. Justice for Linkletter, our guy. Oh, this is the guy that did Boyhood? I know that they are iconic movies.

47:35Gregg Rosenthal:I get that. But in the question, I didn't know. I went literal. I said before midnight because that's when I write. This is crazy. Yes, Richard Linklater wrote a series of movies, iconic Julie Delpy and Ethan Hawke. Ethan Hawke. They meet and they just kind of talk. It's like a first date. And then eight years later, they come back. They never met back up and they do it. And it really messes with time because, you know, like it's the same characters, but every eight or nine years. And then before midnight, there is a clear answer. These are important movies to me and my wife, Emika. and she went in order.

48:10She would just go in the order, sunrise, sunset, midnight. The clear and obvious thing is that before midnight is obviously last.

48:18Patrick Claybon:I am so happy that people have a positive relationship with Richard Linklater films. I do not. Why not? I watched Boyhood and I feel as though it happened in real time. And I would just like to have had a plot. Good rewatch. I enjoyed it. It was messing with time. When somebody tells me a story, I am interested in the plot. The story is life. The story is life passes. Life passes while I was watching the movie. I think before sunset takes it here, you know, it's coming back together. You're in your 30s. You're a little smarter. Before midnight's tough, I think you realize, you know, you're like deep into the marriage.

48:56And sometimes there's some realities there. I think that echoes life a little. Before, you know, the first meeting's overrated. For some.

49:04Patrick Claybon:For them. For your literal answer, what did you pick, Jordan? she said before midnight

49:07Gregg Rosenthal:before midnight because that's when I write yeah I was like oh I love that time before sunset one of the best movies the last like 25 years the NFLPA and the NFL has hired you to replace the franchise tag with something that helps team keep franchise stars longer assuming you want to do a good job and get them to agree what do you say oh you guys are both looking at me I like the caveat assuming you want to do a good job I did have one I did have one if you want me to throw it out first yeah it doesn't I need to think it through that there'd almost be no salary cap for like you would the franchise player would be outside of the salary cap like and that would encourage more money now there's particulars like maybe it's three years guaranteed but it doesn't count towards your cap and the number has to be like above the number one player in the league average or something like that so the players get paid it doesn't hurt your cap to keep them it's like an exception for one player but you would really only do it for super duper players mine has not been thought through whatsoever just to be clear there is mine really um i was saying i was thinking that there is a minimum salary threshold as sort of a placeholder but certain parameters that are set that are relative specifically to that player that are pre-negotiated so it's almost like there's a two series of negotiations one agreeing to the parameters that the player must make at least this based on his value and production based on some agreed upon primators versus the needle moving and the goalpost moving that we often see during this time.

50:43Patrick Claybon:So you don't think I'm copying. This is what I literally wrote down. The NFLPA working in tandem with capitals, a limit worker power sounds like something this version of the NFLPA would be all but willing to do. But I think the abolition of the salary cap provide teams with everything they need in order to keep certain players in a particular location. The starting point for my negotiation will be something reminiscent of the Supermax NBA deal where you're allowed incremental violations of the cap for certain players. I like it. So complicated, but I do like it. I like it. Assume the afterlife is real.

51:12Where do pets go after they die? I like how people know us

51:15Gregg Rosenthal:at this point. So they say, assume. They use the word assume. Approach this question with this framework. Cover your bases. I like it. Yeah. Where do pets go after they die? Human heaven, hell, species-specific domains or somewhere else? It's a tricky one. I can't imagine, and everyone has great relationships with their pets, but I just feel like heaven for pets is not being subjugated to that relationship. Well, you don't have a dog. So I would say that for a dog, especially if you got, I learned this phrase. This is maybe Gen Z, I don't know, but like a soul dog. you know if you have a soul dog you know you and that dog you would think even if you're applying your own feelings onto that dog's own feelings like that that dog also wants to see you I think that it's probably a combination of energies that find each other again you know like if if that is what the energy was on earth for both of those and then if you don't meet your pet you know wherever then it's assuming that the pet has decided and has the autonomy to decide.

52:30Gregg Rosenthal:So I think, I think the afterlife for pets is given, given being given autonomy for the first time in their existence, the autonomy to decide what they want to do. Right. I guess we can't rewrite all of human existence. Cause at some point, you know, then we kind of made the animals answer to us. So, you know, maybe this would be an opportunity where they, they're no longer answering us at all, but then you'd have to rewind and it wouldn't be the same soul. Very complicated.

52:56Patrick Claybon:Yeah, I would hate the idea that, like, because, you know, we lost Penny and Dottie within the last year, that they're, like, somewhere with George Washington and Thomas Jefferson right now.

53:03Gregg Rosenthal:I know.

53:04Patrick Claybon:Like, I'm not doing that, but I would hope that, you know, for all conscious beings that, you know, there's a place where you're kind of separated between bodily format and you're just aware and calm and free. That would be my hope. All right, this has to be the last one because we got to get out of here. Jeff Ball asked, Will the Vikings or Lions ever win a Super Bowl or should fans of those teams like me just abandon all hope?

53:27Gregg Rosenthal:I thought you were going to go with Jeff Paul's bonus question. Yeah, that's coming. That's, you know, that's the second part. I was just confused because Jeff Paul Comedia, Comedy. I thought he was a media company. Right. Comedia, that might be it. Like, who is a fan of both Vikings? Comedia. Who's a fan of both the Vikings and the Lions? That's the dirtiest. Yeah. You stepped all over it in multiple ways. In a way, you did. All right, let's just get out of here. No, they're going to win. Yeah, they're going to win a Super Bowl. I believe. I believe. Don't give up. Part of the experience of human existence is hoping for things.

54:12Gregg Rosenthal:Don't give up. And yeah, the bonus question was, what's the dirtiest part of the human body, which is a subject we covered on the Jesselnick and Rosenthal vanity project. So it's a, it's a callback to that. And the answer is the butthole answer. Let's get out of here. Sorry. We couldn't get to all your other questions, especially shout out to shadow chase. Who's tried to get a question on three straight times, but there are long questions. I'm going to get it to it next time. Chase. You're now part of the bit. Put it on blue sky. answer his question on blue sky. That's a good, that's a good point.

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