Most Underrated Player For Every AFC Team

21:50And he is known as like a great run defender. But what happened was when he went up against some of these smaller centers, and these are guys who get paid a lot of money. Garrett Bradbury was one Tanner Bordellini, who had a great season for the Colts. He got past them with like quickness. And so if you watch his film for a rookie 21 year old defensive tackle, there is a strength and quickness for his size, which is massive that not many people have. Like I'm definitely taking him long-term over Kenneth Grant, who improved later in the season was their first round pick, but they told us what they thought of him by putting him out there, essentially week one and keeping him as a starter.

22:28Not a, not a guy, uh, it's gotten a lot of pop, but someone I think they feel pretty good about moving forward. Jordan Phillips.

22:34Patrick Claybon:Whenever you can have somebody contribute very early, uh, in a rebuild, He's also a 71 rating on Madden, which, and again, a lot of these things, a lot of it's based on the awareness stat, which is heavy, and you're going to move that over as a guy progresses and gets better at the game. But in and of itself, that's underrated to me. The potential for growth. But even, you know what, a rookie defensive day three tackle, getting 71 on Madden, it's like a nice little accomplishment. You want to know another accomplishment that he had? What's that? He was one of two different men named Jordan Phillips to be drafted by the Dolphins in the last 10 years.

23:16Pretty weird. I kind of forgot that the other Jordan Phillips who then went to the Bills bounced around was drafted initially by the Miami Dolphins. Both defensive tackles. Yeah, same position. What are the odds? This next one is spicy. Is it? For this exercise, I thought it was spicy. It's the Ravens. So now I feel even more, I'm like, this is shades of Fontenot now.

23:42Patrick Claybon:No, not at all. No, it is. Trey Hendrickson had a 56 run defense grade last year, according to PFF, where clearly the Wobegon Bengals suffered as a run defense from the presence of Trey Hendrickson based on that rating. 56 will get you held back a grade. people will make determinations about your viability as a human participating in society with 56 the Bengals gave up a yard and a half more per carry with Trey Hendrickson off the field hey last year they loaded the box more without Trey Hendrickson on the field and behind the line of scrimmage uh they got hit behind the line of scrimmage more five percent more when Trey Hendrickson was on the field and the explosive run percentage was cut in half uh those numbers were an issue in 2024 but what my take presupposes greg is when the football player is being asked to do different things there's different outcomes and also there may be deleterious effects when you are in a long term multi-year conversation about not providing somebody with compensation and they rush the passer and they prioritize sacking the quarterback over other things because that's how you get paid when somebody is is fairly compensated uh i think trey hendrickson is let's be honest he's he's not he's not max crosby against the run okay but he's he's a serviceable football player that i think like this idea that like oh yeah he's getting murdered in the run game every single time you don't like that it's just not happening like it's like oh if you could just post up step curry every time okay it's not working that's what i'm saying it's a great point the majority of people paid to do this that said that trey hendrickson is a sieve in the running game is a negative in the running game.

25:30They just kept parroting that over and over during this whole off season. They don't know what they're talking about. They're just saying something that everyone else said. I'm not going to, I'm not going to go out. I'm going that far. Okay. I'm saying, they're just saying, I'm going media criticism. They're just saying things other people said. Now, I'm not going to say that I have a hot take about his run defense in general. I would have to, I would want to go back and study that whether they're targeting him.

25:58Patrick Claybon:I wanted to confirm my priors. and bring tape to give to Eric. There's not a lot of great stuff on there. Yeah, but your stats, stats are more important. You backed it up with real stats. The spicy part of it is that Trey Hendrickson is an extremely well-known player. And I think people think highly of him. So I think to go as far as saying he's underrated, the most underrated player on the team, in theory, I guess we just, and an underrated player. you're you're saying he's another level better than people even realize like 56 uh being the issue here and to go back to like if we want to talk about armand membu right here um has a 50 55 he has a 61 in change of direction okay armand membu the the massive human being that moves around.

26:53Patrick Claybon:They're giving him a 61 in change of direction. The relative here is that Trey Hendrickson is like a quarterback out there in the run game and I'm just not feeling that. He's just lying down every time. I don't know what to do. I went back. The worst run defense the Bengals played last year in terms of success was against the Denver Broncos. R.J. Harvey had a good game as well as J.K. Dobbins. He went for 121 and I just expect to see Trey Hendrickson just diving out of bounds on these run plays. It just, it's what's happened. I'm not seeing it. I think he is an underrated run defender. And I do believe systems can impact how people view you.

27:34So he is going from a team that's been terrible stopping the run in general, one of the worst, the Bengals, to a team that prizes stopping the run, especially from their edges. So we might see him get coached up a little differently, have different responsibilities and see that run-stop score skyrocket and Claiborne look like a genius. I love it. We're going two of the most famous players on this list back-to-back in terms of underrated. So when I say that Chase Brown is underrated, I am recognizing the fact that the average fan does know Chase Brown and they do think he's probably pretty good.

28:13My point is that he's even better than you realize. from week 11 on when they kind of figured out their running game. Dalton risers healthy. They figure out who to play. He was fifth among all running backs in yards from scrimmage. You can guess the players ahead of him. It's it's Gibbs and it's McCaffrey and Robinson and B. John. And I think cook was, was the other one cook I think is a good comp for him in a type of contract that I think chase Brown would be worthy of getting. Cause I think he's a very smart player. Went back, watched some of his tape from last year, and he sees things before they happen.

28:52I decided to watch a game where the Bengals didn't score a single point. I was like, this is a game where Chase Brown, he's not going to do well. And that was against the Ravens. Multiple times in that game, he made great plays. On one, Aloy Gilman, perfect defensive play call. He sees him approaching. He's going to be unblocked into the hole. He knows Gilman's coming. Brown hits him with a spin move. He's got one of the better spin moves in the league. He likes to use it. He likes to use it as a receiver. He used it. If you're watching on YouTube on the very play that's going on right now against Jordan Brooks magic.

29:23There's multiple times in that game, by the way, that he made Jordan Brooks look like the stiffest linebacker you'll ever see. I don't want to, I don't want to be smirch anyone, but an elder linebacker that needs to basically end his career. And Jordan Brooks is a good player. Now I'm wondering who you're talking about. Chase Brown. It's on the list actually. Chase Brown makes slower linebackers look that way. He is outstanding in terms of his receiving production. I don't need to tell you this, Patrick, because as fantasy football goes, and I know he had a slow start that last year, he's a productive player.

29:58Top 12, I believe, in fantasy at running back the last two years. I do think he comfortably fits in that 5 to 10 range. He'd be exactly the type of running back if I was making a team that I would want to be my running back. Assuming you're not going to get like Bajon Robinson, a Hall of Famer, he can do everything really well and I think is better at the things like running through contact, power, picking up the tough yards than people realize.

30:26Patrick Claybon:Yeah, people sleep on his... I think most people are well aware that Chase Brown, everything he can do in the receiving game is a guy who can separate quickness in and out of his breaks, making plays on the ball as well, especially for a smaller guy, but people undersell his capacity to be explosive with the ball in his hands in the run. And is he Jameer? Is he Bajon? No. But there's other aspects of the game where he contributes, but because I think of the size, the box is placed on him. They have this idea of like a satellite back. Okay, he's going out there and getting yards. He's being productive.

31:02Patrick Claybon:What more do you want? And I think he makes the Bengals able to do what the Bengals can do. and how many running backs in the NFL in the last two seasons have had more total touches than Chase Brown. It's a pretty short list. At this point, having 240-ish carries and then you're getting 50 catches in the receiving game, that is your workhorse back in 2026. There's not many of those left. I actually consider Chase Brown one of those. And yeah, he's not your first pick to just run it in the middle. And yet, like his missed tackles force is really high in that same Ravens game. He ran through a Kyle Hamilton tackle.

31:38He's one of the best tacklers in the league two times. I mean, just ran straight through him. And there are some times where he's got a smaller guy from the secondary trying to line him up, and he'll run right through him. So really impressive player that wouldn't surprise me if he takes another step, and he's kind of recognized in that. James Cook, I think, is a nice comp for him of the level that I see him at.

32:01Patrick Claybon:Yeah, and I just do think the accumulation of pain and punishment on his back. Like we didn't necessarily appreciate peak Austin Eckler at these times. So I'm glad that you're shouting out Chase Brown is underrated. Well, in the first five weeks of the season, there was this crazy stat that him and Ashton Gentry had that their average spot where they got hit was in the backfield. It was negative. That's how bad the Bengals' offensive line was, run blocking early last season. And so it was a slow start for him. But once they got it going, he got it going as well. All right, you got the Browns up next.

32:34Patrick Claybon:So Harold Fannin got a grade on PFF of 69.1. It was an offense. Here's my point for Harold Fannin. The offense had a 34.6 % success rate. They were dead last in the league. They had 26 touchdowns rushing and receiving total in 2025. Harold Fannin had seven of them. He was the team's leading receiver, demanded a ton of targets. Everyone in the stadium on the planet knew he was getting the ball. His catch percentage was low. Yeah, the offense was bad. the quarterbacks were bad and the coach got fired. I think everybody generally accepts that he's good, but his target percentage was similar to Trey McBride.

33:11Patrick Claybon:His reception EPA was comparable to Tucker craft. His rating on targets was higher than Theo Johnson, Travis Kelsey, and Tyler Warren. And the Browns offense was miserable. And all those things were still true. He's underrated. Love that. Love recognizing a unique player. When you see Harold fan and on the field, I remember very distinctly, watching him overseas. There's no one quite like him. He moves a little different. Big player. Makes crazy catches. Drops some catches too. It happens. I'm saying he's just but he's a bucket as the kids would say. He's out there. Produces. And also another position that traditionally pretty difficult for tight ends.

33:52I know they've gotten more productive over the last few years. He's someone I have a feeling is rooting for Shadur to win that job because I think him and Shadur specifically had a nice connection and should have trusted him as he should as really his best receiver. I'm going with a guy who probably would have been on this list last year for the Steelers. And he's still on the list because he's still underrated. Nick Herbig has finally graduated in my own brain from confusing him with Nate Herbig. It just was something I could, I just couldn't get past. I mean, it happens. Nate Herbig was on the Steelers.

34:26It's like a gar. It just was very confusing at this point. Nick's career is so outstanding. I'm not going to confuse him anymore. Sorry to Nate. He led the NFL.

34:37Patrick Claybon:There's only space in your brain for one Herbig on the Steelers? Yeah, that's it. Okay. I don't know what Nate's doing right now. I think he's, is he still on the Steelers? I think he's bounced around. So it's true for real. Who knows? Only one Herbig is allowed at any time. So in 2024, pass rush to win rate, people have different opinions about the stat in general. but in 2024 Nick Herbig's pass rush win rate was so far ahead of the entire rest of the league I think it was like 9 he was 34 % and the next closest was 25 the next closest by the way was like Will Anderson and Jonathan Grenard and not far behind that Nick Benito and Michael Parsons so you can say it's a flawed stat but last year after Nick Herbig went back to back back to back The people right behind him are Nick Benito, Michael Parsons, Will Anderson, Abdul Carter, watch out for that second year leap, and Miles Garrett.

35:33So I don't know how flawed that stat is if it's pumping out those players as the best pass rushers in the league. And yet, I still think that makes him a little underrated. To be able to do that back-to-back season. Now, he didn't win it by nine percentage points last season. What they did was up his usage, mostly because of injury, early in the season. and then they put him back on the bench. At the end of the season, he only had one game in the last, I believe, seven or eight games, Patrick, with over 30 snaps. So he's not underrated by Joe Phan. He's underrated by the Steelers and that's why he deserves to still be on that list where like Highsmith and TJ Watt are just getting so many more snaps down the stretch than Nick Herberg.

36:21Patrick Claybon:especially when late in the season when you weren't necessarily getting maximum uh tj watt like it was like 25 of tj watt last year a bit of a crime like to pay to play 60 of the defensive snaps uh in 2025 he went up 10 from 50 in 2024 uh but to have win rates similar to those guys they gotta know we need we need more nick herbig and we need like better nick herbig propaganda Like we need Nick to be promoted. I mean, he's got the traditional numbers to eight sacks, 13 quarterback hits, 47 total pressure. So those, those numbers were, were good. And he only got that extra 10 % because, because Highsmith and Watt missed some time early and even late, late in the season, it was crazy.

37:06I mean, when they essentially benched him and I guess he's not as good at, at, at stopping the run as those other two, but I don't think he's a total sieve when they essentially bench him. He was leading the league then too. Imagine, imagine that leading, you know, essentially benching the guy who's leading the league in pass rush winery. We're going to take a quick break, and when we come back, Patrick Claibon is going to blow your mind. Wait. The most underrated player on the Houston Tech. Yeah, this is taking. I love it.

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41:33Back on NFL Daily, Patrick Claibon drawing a lot of disrespect from the matting ratings specifically, and he noted the ultimate disrespect that the two Jordan Philipses, the Phillips eye, in Buffalo and Miami, only have one profile picture. They just were lazy and copied and pasted it.

41:52Patrick Claybon:And you having delved deeply into the younger Jordan Phillips. have determined that that is a picture of the young Jordan. Pretty sure. Yeah, it's the younger one. So you come into the league first. It's your name. And the Madden folks, who are great, by the way, they got a lot of ratings to do. Somebody's got to do the ratings. Yeah. I get it. We're doing underrated. I'm not taking to task the people who are doing this. I'm just saying, as opposed to saying, somebody's just underrated based on ether. You went with the numbers. That's fair. Provided some numbers. And we do love the Madden family.

42:26Shook is a part of that family. My son, a massive Madden player and fan. And you're going to talk about his favorite team to play with here.

42:35Patrick Claybon:Yeah. And honestly, one of his favorite players. That is Coleridge Bernard, CJ Stroud IV, who has cratered to a 77 overall on Madden. A lot of people may be familiar with the game against the New England Patriots in the playoffs where it was horrible. I would like to suggest to the people who watched that game, who saw some football, who appreciate our game, that CJ Stroud was not as bad over the course of the season and had a miserable playoff game. He was successful against man coverage. He had 116.2 passer rating, the fifth highest in the league. He averaged 7.1 yards per attempt. In the red zone against man, he had the third highest mark.

43:18Patrick Claybon:He completed 67 % of his passes. He had 11 touchdowns, not a single interception. He had a bad game. He had spots in the season that were miserable. And we've gotten to the point where CJ Stroud, who was like the future of the NFL, I don't think we lean too heavily on that. But I think the fallback after after some bad play has been way too much. Totally agree. His numbers for the season. actually are better than I would have even expected having watched every one of his games. His EPA per play, his QBR, his success rate. They all paint a picture of about a top 12 quarterback. If you consider the offensive line struggles and the lack of a running game and the offensive coordinator, you got to give some extra points for that.

44:07The catch is... Last year was the most concerning year for me as a CJ Stroud fan. because I do think what happened in the playoffs was typical of what happened a few times in the season. Usually he'd get out of it. When he would get into a funk, it's like he had a hard time getting out of it. Like you could almost, you could see it on his face a little bit, but you could see it in his play where, you know, they say with Sam Darnold, oh, he leaves the bad plays behind him. On to the next play. I didn't get, I felt like Stroud got streaky in a bad way last year, but people are ignoring all the good streaks too.

44:43Patrick Claybon:Yeah, and I think that is instructive in that that was a thing that was said about Sam Darnold, who one time lamented the things he was saying on the field. And it became like the thing about Sam Darnold. But we've seen that a Sam Darnold quarterback can literally win the Super Bowl with the team around him is correct. And if C.J. plays to the extent that C.J. Stroud has in the past with this team and this defense, the Texans will be fine. I think we've gone too far. I agree. I'm included in that in going back and trying to figure out which Texan is underrated and I'm scrolling through looking at PFF I'm looking at Madden and I'm seeing where CJ Stroud was and you go back and look and think about it he's underrated I still have him as a top 15 quarterback in the NFL I'd take him over Sam Darnold who just won the Super Bowl I'm going Josh Downs as my next pick the slot receiver for the Indianapolis Colts look his raw numbers are good he's got almost 2 ,000 yards in three seasons which is very good for a third round pick he got over 100 targets in 2024 it was his best kind of counting stat seasons but to me he's better on tape than he is as a player no one converted last season more third downs and this is where he missed a lot of games too where he received the ball short of the sticks and then converted a first down.

46:08Then Josh freaking first down. He was the third highest volume in terms of targets in the entire league on third downs. The two guys ahead of him were in probably on the same team, Pukenikua and Devante Adams, which just shows you like literally a two man offense is pretty effective

46:28Patrick Claybon:duo. That's crazy. So everyone knows it's going to Josh downs. you can't cover him high volume and the after catch ability is just fantastic, which I think the first stat points out in the right situation. I think he could have a crazy great counting stats season, but he doesn't even need to, for me to just like recognize him as one of the best slot receivers in the NFL. And I think it explains some of the moves and the, why they're able to do that and the perception about the MPJ trade and the way the Colts are moving is Josh Downs allows you to do that. And maybe we, you know, I got to stop with this week.

47:05Maybe folks who generally perceive Josh Downs feel as though the slot capacity.

47:11Patrick Claybon:You see Pierce and Pittman in the size and the way that they can produce and Tyler Warren doing all these different things. It's like, oh, these guys are where it's based. But when you're getting almost a third of third down targets going your way when you run around. It's the most important play in the game. That's who they're going to is Josh Downs. I became a bigger fan of him when I, when Drake may was coming out and I went back and to watch those two seasons. And I think it is instructive that we always talk about quarterbacks making receivers better. Like Josh Downs made Drake may a lot better and vice versa when they were together.

47:46Drake may was not the same player without Josh Downs. I don't think Dana Jones would have been the same player last year without Josh Downs. I think, I think he helps out his quarterbacks a great deal on money downs. All right. You got the Jaguars.

47:57Patrick Claybon:So looking at the Jacksonville Jaguars, a team that lost some talent as well. I don't feel they are as good as they were last year. Maybe I'm underrating them. But this is the antithesis of the Trey Hendrickson take, where Trevon Walker played pretty good in rushing the passer. Again, it's tough to say that a player that was the number one overall pick in the NFL draft is underrated, but there's this idea that, you know, he's only good against the run where it's like, guys, we've got to pick something. that either it's important or it's not important. But when he was on the field, the Jags had a pressure of 35 % of opposing quarterback dropbacks.

48:39Patrick Claybon:When he was off the field, it went down to 27.5%. The Jags were far and away the number one run defense where nobody had over 100 yards rushing against this team the entire season. They were great, and he was a big part of that, and I think he's a touch underrated. I agree. I think he really got caught because he's the number one overall pick but now he's graduated to the point that he was a good number one overall pick he kind of reminds me of Jadavion Clowney in the sense that play style athleticism how he developed into his career just below an all pro level you know but not not quite there the problem is multiple things can be true I actually think it was kind of an inspired and good pick by Trent Balky in a way that he went number one overall and he actually is going to be better than plenty of number one overall picks.

49:28And it was still the wrong pick because there was a better player that seemed more obvious available at the same position, Aiden Hutchinson, that they passed on. That's not Trayvon Walker's fault. No, it's not Trayvon Walker. Like if you put him number two or three, he would have had this career and you'd be like, yeah, that's an incredible two or three pick. Like Trayvon Walker. I'm going Cedric Gray. Not CJ. He's so underrated, I wrote him down as CJ and my aforementioned son was looking at my list and I was like, it's not CJ Gray, bro. It's Cedric Gray. So nice correction there. Shout out to Walker.

50:02Sliding in there. Pretty impressive. Second in the league in stops. I'm talking about Cedric Gray and my son. And my son. For the Titans. People probably don't even know that. Off ball linebacker. Not a lot of carryover from last year's Titans defense to this one. And I think they have a keeper in Cedric Gray. look he was second in the league in stops tackles and stops can be a little misleading but he was also extremely high in stop rate so that's per snap that he was on the field ultimately it's like success rate as a defender did you prevent the opposing offense from having a successful play depends on if it's first or second down also very high in terms of tackles for loss and just the guy that's a see ball, get ball, pursuit linebacker to do that as a second year day three guys is really impressive.

50:56Or was he taken in the third round? Like he was in the middle of that draft, but as a second year guy, I think he's going to get better. He's not all cleaned up in terms of his past defense, but that's true of basically all linebackers in the league. He could become a star with Robert Salas. So I'm also kind of calling my shot here that he's only going to get better with a really good coach in Robert Sala.

51:19Patrick Claybon:And that's what a typical underrated player is. They finally get the opportunity. A guy who went 106 overall was a fourth-round pick for said Gray. And sky's the limit. Get Bob Sala in there. Start, you know, you may get diced up at linebacker, but these guys are all put in conflict all the time, especially in that division. And so... Got to be next to Anthony Hill. I mean, that is... Creditable. That is an athletic. You know, they could get diced up a little bit. Hill's kind of the more the inferior guy that's going to really play well in coverage. But we'll see. That's going to be a fun duo to watch.

51:58And Salah's linebackers are always fun to watch. All right. You are up with the Broncos wrapping up here with the AFC West.

52:04Patrick Claybon:Yeah. And the Denver Broncos famously had an opportunity to go to the Super Bowl. They beat the Buffalo Bills with an opportunity to go to that AFC championship game. They didn't have their quarterback. Taquan McMillan, who is a 76. Hey, now, according to our friends at Madden. And again, this is a difficult task to rate these players. 34 snaps in the divisional round against the Bills. He was targeted three times, negative four yards, and he got the interception in overtime. Even after the interception, we can't get my man into the 80s. It seemed glaring to me. I feel Jaquan McMillan is underrated.

52:41I was going back to that Bill's Broncos game for another exercise we're going to do on quarterbacks. And I was on Nate Tice's show this week talking quarterbacks. People should check that out. And I remember, you know, like Josh Allen had a few turnover worthy plays in that game. But this wasn't one of them. The interception that Jaquan McMillan had because that was just a great defensive play by McMillan to rip that ball away. and all he didn't see right at all i love an undersized slot guy i love a guy who was kind of told by his coaches hey we're probably not going to play you as much this year because of the draft pick that we made jadey baron first round pick and he comes out and he just earns his spot and he keeps that first round pick mostly on the bench they they told us what they thought of jake one mcmillan they were like we can't take him off the field it's kind of why it was a curious pick because he's been so good throughout, but you know, can't ever have too many defense backs.

53:36Yeah.

53:36Patrick Claybon:Upwards of 70 targets over the course of the season, zero touchdowns. Come on. So they told us what they thought of McMillan by his playing time. And that's my main take with Noah Williams from the chiefs. I'm not going to pretend that like he stood out to me watching him each and every snap, but in some high leverage spots against good teams, including I can't remember that Bills game. They trusted him in a very similar way as an outside cornerback to the way that they trusted Jalen Watson as a rookie cornerback all through that Super Bowl run. And then they told us what they thought of Noah Williams by the way they acted this offseason.

54:15Yeah, you move up in the draft for Mansoor Delaney. Noah Williams is still locked into that starting job right opposite him. I think they entered this offseason thinking, OK, Noah Williams is one of our starters. How do we get that second starter next to him? that's a mid-round pick and I trust him. You think I'm stretching here?

54:33Patrick Claybon:No, I like the idea of like, you know, with the Broncos, we're like, we got to find somebody to go on the other side of Sertan. It's like, we got to find somebody to go on the other side of Noah Williams, but it's true. It's true. I mean, yeah. Maybe not thinking of that way, but like, I think they looked there like, okay, we saw enough. He's our guy. He's going to be our guy throughout this rookie contract. I just have kind of no doubt that if Steve Spagnuolo believes that he's the guy for the next four or five years, then he will be the guy. They've proven that they're going to be right about these things.

55:05You got the Raiders next.

55:06Patrick Claybon:And this was a very difficult part of the exercise to me. I lean towards discussing Ashton Gentry and all of the tackles behind the line of scrimmage, but I decided to go with Trey Tucker. Okay. Greg, who is a 78 overall, according to our friends on Madden. Trey Tucker has consistently been explosive. in week three he had you know eight catches for 145 yards and three touchdowns that was a significant portion of the las vegas raiders receiving totals for the season in in week three when like there was you know they beat the patriots there was this idea that they may be some sort of viable football team they weren't and i had to pick someone purely i had to pick someone i went with trey tucker because the team was miserable he's the rare nfl player that makes everyone else look slow.

55:58If you're checking us out on YouTube, you're seeing some after the catchability. You're seeing some tough throw catchability. Some plays that... Look, he's not going to break a ton of tackles at his size, but his speed just jumps off the screen. There's not that many receivers that actually have different speed. There's only like I'd say like 15 of them in the NFL. I think Trey Tucker's in that group. Just a pure pure like kind of make the defense panic speed.

56:24Patrick Claybon:Hit 18 miles an hour on 39 routes this season. It was the third most in the NFL. Playing for a team where you don't have a lot of opportunities to hit 18 miles an hour. Like, frankly, you had Geno doing weird stuff back there and the protection not necessarily being NFL caliber protection, not players, but just implementation all the way through. Similar to the Fannin thing where people produce despite the situation around them being miserable, Trey Tucker did that. I kind of like that fit too. Cause I was thinking like Trey Tucker is one of those guys. If he was a role player on a great team, he'd be very famous.

57:01And I have no doubt he would be a really effective role player for a team like the 49ers or the Rams or something like that. Like the Rams have been looking for Trey Tucker for years. Right. And then everyone would be like, Trey Tucker is awesome. I'm going chargers next. And I was bullied into taking a player that the average fan, you know, would recognize more that we have B roll for that. You can see the vision, but I'm not going to be bullied on, on my own show. There was also needless. Tierra tart is the man. Tierra tart is so good at defensive tackle that they had to give him a big contract.

57:39Okay. I was bullied. I'm sneaking to it. My two guys were Tierra tart who capably replaced Puna Ford, a little different, more of a pressure. Eric wrote, please on this. He goes, please go with the running back. I have B roll. I was going to play though. Omarian Hampton B-roll over you talking about TR Tart anyways. I was like, this is whatever. People get to see it because I cut it. It is cool. Let's see some Omarian Hampton B-roll because it is awesome. I think he is underrated.

58:03Patrick Claybon:Especially with the Mike Mack influence. He's going to be much better than he was his rookie year. Not usually my style of player either. I really like the short area quickness, like the guys who can make you miss in a phone booth, as they would say. And Hampton isn't that guy. but what he has almost as much as like anyone for this skill set since Derek Henry is a combination of, Oh my God, he is going to run your ass over. If you're in the secondary, there were some plays like Paulson, a Debo, Javon Holland in that, in that giant scheme where like, he is just going to make you look like a small person and run you over combining that with the, with the bad angle, just breakaway speed.

58:50He obviously doesn't have the size that Derrick Henry has, but I think he can have like a Derrick Henry style of play that gets him to some Pro Bowls with some major yards because it's actually a pretty rare quality to have the run over you and big playability that he has.

59:07Patrick Claybon:Yeah, because there's that moment of conflict where you're trying to figure out how to get this person down. Obviously, Derrick Henry, he's stiff-armed a million people and that's like the fifth time that a tackler is trying to figure out how to tackle Derek Henry. And for Amari and Hampton, it's similar in that, like, the way we see Jamar Chase break all these tackles, where he's explosive, but he's also larger. And so the arm contact isn't doing what it normally does to people because force equals mass times acceleration. And so, like, Hampton's out the gate. That's why I'm so excited to see him in an offense that has spacing and, like, planning to it where I'm excited about what the charge is.

59:46Have you been tracking average draft position or anything like that? How people are losing Hampton? Where's Hampton at these days?

59:52Patrick Claybon:ADP-wise. And again, like post-draft ADP tends to be a little bit different. 16. He's overall 16. He's RB10 right now. I think that goes up as we get closer. Praise maybe. Hopefully we get to have fantasy preseason shows. Hopefully the fantasy show exists in some capacity. but I think we're going to talk him up and leapfrog guys like Saquon, you know, where you don't necessarily know what the Eagles offense is going to look like. McCathery, JT, Jameer, Bajon, that that's going to be locked solid. But Amarin Hampton gets to this place where you're in that, you think about the RB dead zone kind of starting where it's like, am I getting the value here?

1:00:37Patrick Claybon:Maybe I'll go a wide receiver. I think you can still get good RB value with Amarin. He just has to prove that he can stay on the field. and stay healthy because like those broken tackles I talked about, for instance, against the Giants, it was kind of a joke. Like Paulson Adivo, Javon Hyland, and Tyler Newman, like they literally can't tackle him. He's just too big for them. He just runs right over them. But sometimes he just puts his head down and literally runs right over them. And so he's going to take a pounding. If you told me, if there was a world where you're drafting everyone for fantasy and you're telling me everyone gets 15 games minimum, I think he's a top five or six pick.

1:01:12like that. I am loving him on the turn in fantasy drafts. He could be a 2 ,000-yard type of guy. It doesn't take long for these running backs, 2 ,000 yards from scrimmage.

1:01:25Patrick Claybon:And dynasty folks are obsessed with getting in early, and they're going to want, oh, it's going to be Jeremiah Love and all these situations. And Ryan Hampton's been in the league one year. You're not losing the value. You need to win now. I think winning is important in fantasy football. Yeah, you want to prioritize the dynasty down the road you'd also like to win now because it is a season that you were playing as well and i think jeremiah love like being close to there is a little little fraudulent oh little fraudulent just because of the situation i agree long term i get it though and i mean he's pretty special no he's a special player um the franchise and i recognize we're talking about the chargers i feel a whole lot better about the 2026 los angeles chargers than i do about the I think that's a fair take.

1:02:10A lot of fair takes. Love the underrated players that you picked, Patrick. You'll be back next week.

1:02:18Patrick Claybon:Hey, I love the opportunity to do this show with you, Greg. And I hope nobody ever takes it away. I could not agree with you more. And I feel good about it. I feel good. Claibon to the moon. Claymates. The Claibon Vivants. It's not the name of the show, baby. All the Clavon fans are excited They should be excited about our next show too I mean the shook ones out there Can't get enough of shook, it's a too shook week We're back on Wednesday No such thing as halfway shook

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