Naming Some Dudes

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2:25Jourdan Rodrigue:a lot of lost players from from that time even on like some of the super teams Ricky Prohl people don't think about Ricky Prohl no Ricky Prohl's I think remembered mostly for talking too much that he was going to come back and beat the Patriots really in 0-1 NFL film did him wrong that's a certain point that's a very Patriots point of view I think of Ricky Prohl with the catch, right? Yeah. Against the Buccaneers. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And that's just editing, Greg. That's just mean editing, you know? Bill Belichick was probably in there at the time with NFL Films. Greg Zerline back in the day there.

2:59Jourdan Rodrigue:Yeah. You guys remember, this is a player I was so fascinated by when I was in high school. And then, like, coming into my actual football watching in college, John Smokey Brown. Yes. Oh, that 15 season? Come on. Well, smoke. That brought, maybe I thought, maybe I'll be a Cardinals fan. And then quickly it was beaten out of me. So. In 2015, there were six or seven weeks where you could have been convinced that Gary Barnage was the future. Oh, Gary Barnage. The catch. The leg catch. I mean, he was incredible. Cleveland Browns touchdown. And he only played one more year after that. Who could have so much more?

3:40Shout out to Gary Barnage. Both very prominent around the NFL. Characters.

3:46Jourdan Rodrigue:Yeah. Wes loved him some John Brown. And, yeah, Gary Barnage, a legend. D 'Angelo Hall. Yep. As a player? Yeah. I don't want to think about him as a... Like, D 'Angelo Hall as a player was a thing. He, to me, he's, like, up and down. Like, the ultimate, like, streaky cornerback. Yeah. Love D 'Hall. Like, impossible to separate him from the I Fear God homie training camp. moment like one of the premier training camp moments in history with and with you know DeAndre Hopkins maybe trying to get on the coaching circuit like maybe we'll probably hear a fear God homie a few more times. I like thinking about other lost St.

4:33Jourdan Rodrigue:Louis Rams to Austin Davis. Austin Davis. Wow. Deep pole for the wrong reasons. What was it? Eight games but he tied for the lead and pick sixes that year. On a short list of like the worst starting quarterback stats. But I'm sure it was a nice man. How about Adewale Ogunlie? Adewale Ogunlie. Ogun? There's so many. Like when you go through and you just like the names themselves when this happens, like Chris Fumatu Maafala. it's just like something premier about a name and a moment that that stand out for a lot of guys a lot of those bears for some reason stand out to me like lance briggs is maybe that's a good yeah you're good are you allowed to say good ones and just naming guys oh i think like i think you can name good guys yeah you can name good guys keep the process going but it doesn't it doesn't give that spark that like a, an Aurelius Ben does.

5:45Oh,

5:47Jourdan Rodrigue:I think I remember thinking, you know, when I first started being a fan of football and, you know, I was like what, 13 years old and you, you try to look and see what you want the best last name. You don't really care when you're a kid, like what the, what the team is, especially when you grow up being, you know, in a Cardinals household as I did, you really don't care about the team. Ben Ben would have been a good one Ed Dixon Recently Just like really Always just did his job Kind of guy You know Ed Dixon the tight end The tight end Well you might have different memories of Ed Dixon Than I do Well it's because so many Things are around that team And you're like what are the primary options here and it's ed dixon some ted gin yeah and you and you think well caitlin clay it's like you can i interest you in some caitlin yeah always a little keevan seymour action not sure how much how much there was around one time one time i was in the publics in south end and i ran into keevan seymour poor guy in the summer he was recovering from double shoulder surgery and his wife had just given birth and so he was getting the groceries instead of you know and being a helpful partner and he was pulling a little cart and he couldn't reach up to the top to the top of the uh the aisle with the shelves in the aisle and i saw him and i was like hey can i oh he was in a double sling you know and i was like what what a guy just trying to help out the fam did he feel emasculated in that moment no we bonded over it yeah always rooting for that guy there's something about tight ends that just like beau scafe a lot of it is about the name like some really good tight end name.

7:34Jermaine Wiggins. It's an old Super Bowl champion for the Patriots. I don't want to lean too hard on that, but just give me a 430 yard as your peak career, your tight end. I'm feeling good. You're mentioning mid 400s, high 400s. It's impossible. I know I say his name all the time because I think about this moment in history in 2004. But Billy Volek needs to be mentioned in every single one of these discussions. In two weeks, He had 920 passing yards, eight touchdowns, and the Titans were 0-2, but I will never forget it. He only started two more games in his career after that. Shout out to Billy Volek.

8:14And Drew Bennett, who did it along with him. And I've probably even said it on NFL Daily, but those two men, indirectly, almost directly responsible for my children's lives because my old friend and boss, Rick Wolf, staked us to a high stakes fantasy league. This was allowed, you know, because I wasn't working for the NFL. Shield protected everybody. And my co-owner and I, Rick Cordella, who now runs all of NBC Universal Sports, which is insane. We hit that lick, you know, on... Billy Bullock, Drew Bennett. We made thousands. I spent that money.

8:55Jourdan Rodrigue:And Ellis, that's how... Yeah, I spent that money to go visit my best friend, Dave Bennett, who I just climbed Mount Fuji with, who was living in Japan at the time and working, and one of his best friends in the world in his friend group turned out to be my future wife. But if Billy Volek and Drew Bennett didn't go on that run. And that's why that itch. Yeah. You know, Greg works hard to not screw. The Shield is safe. Was Cortland Finnegan on those teams? Yes. I mean, I was just thinking if the year is matched up. Cortland Finnegan is... It's one of the coolest NFL names ever, in my opinion. And a great player who's mostly remembered for getting his ass beat.

9:36But a great player at his peak. He was sort of Richard Sherman before Richard Sherman and just not on as good a team. Yeah, D1 instigator. He was like a mix between Richard Sherman and Chauncey Gardner Johnson. Sorry. Cool names always spark for me.

9:52Jourdan Rodrigue:Fozzie Whitaker. one of the all-time one of the micro fullbacks I guess I would say Beanie Wells that's a good name yeah but you know what could have been Legadoo Nune like anytime a guy's running fast and has long legs his name is Legadoo it's like alright I always thought he'd be back Hartley Dykes that was a first round pick right I don't know why I just remember the upper deck card from that year I thought he was going to be good We were just talking about that 04 Titans team and fun names and tight ends. Ben Troop. Oh, yeah. Yeah, that's, I mean, come on. As in support, though. You don't get any more tight end than that.

10:35Ben Troop, Ben Coates. Ben Troop was kind of the original Jonu Smith, too. It just has a player. Like, looks good going off a bus. I don't know why we're going so hard, Titans, but Kyle Vandenbosch feels like he belongs to the show. So just what a juicy name right there. Juicy player, too. In the name genre, you run across some repeats for the same franchise. What about Falcons defensive end, Jamal Anderson? Oh. Yeah. I think it was one. Was there a guy with double A's at the end of the name, though? Yeah. Yeah. That was confusing. Two A's for the not Jamal Anderson that we all familiarize with.

11:14Jourdan Rodrigue:Well, yeah. 98 Falcon. How about the other Kurt Warner? I mean, come on. I mean, listen, I say the other Kurt Warner, but depending on your perspective, Kurt with a C, the Kurt Warner, like that is the original Kurt Warner, you know, depending on your perspective on all of it. How about the poor, I think he was a Jets center, Lamar Jackson bouncing around the lake the last couple of years. There was a corner of Lamar Jackson. Bo Wolfe, our friend, was saying he really wants to ask Jalen Hurts what it's like to be on the same team with Michael Jordan at training camp this year to see if he can get Jalen Hurts to like half smile.

11:51Jourdan Rodrigue:See if he says, I took it personal. Jalen Hurts notably made a point to not call LeBron James the greatest basketball player ever when asked about him at his press conference because we know. Jordan Brand. He's that guy. You guys remember, well, how could you forget? Von Taz Perfect. Arizona State Sun Devil let me tell you when you're a kid growing up in the valley that Sun Devils team is larger than life a lot of those famous you know from the you know Jake Plummer obviously one of my favorites of all time Pat Tillman Jake Plummer Jake Plummer the snake good for him man living his best mushroom life now you know you're a special kind of NFL character when you make Adam Pac-Man Jones kind of like the secondary figure of who's getting too much headlines and kicked out of games on that Bengals team.

12:47Yeah, the answer to how could you forget is Vontaze Perfect for a lot of people because he's made people. I don't know why, but the first name that came to my mind, I don't know why it's waited so long here, was Bernardrick McKinney. It's an old Texans linebacker. That's just an NFL name, Bernardrick McKinney.

13:09Jourdan Rodrigue:my mom and I were talking about my training camp schedule coming up and I'm going to go see the Texans at some point she was writing it down and then reciting it back to me and she goes okay and then you're going to go see the Titans and I go no mom the Texans and she was quiet and I go I could see where you're coming from you know her era her era some players based on name alone feels like they had no choice with their position like Jasper Brinkley was destined to be a linebacker That's a good call. Now I want to come up with people that are that category. Algie Crumpler had to be a tight end.

13:46Michael, the burner Turner probably had to be a running back. I guess you could have, you could have been, you could have been a receiver, but then you might've been confused with Michael, the beer man, Lewis.

13:57Jourdan Rodrigue:Ooh. And, and honestly, how could you not be anything but one of the largest defensive linemen we've ever seen? If your name is not Vince Wilfork. Yeah. Yeah. Parlayed into a tremendous barbecue post career. And also, yes, I just saw an Instagram video of him salmon fishing. He said it was the first time he's ever done a salmon run before. Patrick's reaction to me saying Michael the Beer Man Lewis was all I wanted out of this exercise. Yeah, no, because it's such a great pull. And one of like, why don't we have a Beer Man movie? We need more Beer Man. Yeah. How about Old Kickers? Olindo Mare I always like that one Rob Baronis It's all Titans today I have a Steven Goskowski Yeah He was good I was always I think old kickers Mike Vanderjet Where again It's another player Calling him out It's like the Premier moment Of the league Is when Peyton said Their idiot kicker got liquored up and ran his mouth.

15:08Jourdan Rodrigue:It's like one of the all time. It's like, wow, that's some heat. Neil Rackers, if we're sticking with old Cardinals. Oh, man. Little Josh Scobie. Okay, Rackers is such a cool kicker name, though. Like, I mean, if it. How about Tank Johnson for a name? We're off kickers here, but just Tank Johnson. One more kicker. You're a nose tackle and you're Tank Johnson. Yeah, absolutely. Get in the way, stay in the way. Janikowski is whenever you say kickers and then you talk about clips. Anything slow-mo. Seabass. Moving in slow-mo toward the T, you know? Yeah. I want to go T. Well, Tim Rattay. The LaTec guy was getting buckets.

15:50Didn't necessarily work out. That was at a point in time where it was like, is every 49ers quarterback always going to be good? He was the one who kind of stretched it to the end point. Well, what about T. Martin? He's now a coach. But T. Martin as a player. More of a college guy.

16:07Jourdan Rodrigue:Modern throwback, Torrey Smith. Go ball king, drew the PI like nobody else could and probably still can't. Not a receiver, but there's DJ Moore of the Chicago Bears, the defensive back. So they still. I don't remember him. DJ Moore? That's not even one that I know. No, I don't know that one. How about both Tatupus? Lofa and Mosey. Mosey is the one that gets Mosey was a good player I know you were worried that we're going to bring up players before your time I encourage it Mosey Tatupo was getting it done in the Patriots throwbacks before they were throwbacks and then Lofa Tatupo kind of there's not a lot of players like that anymore they've kind of taken them out of the game Bernardrick McKennie was one of those players just like a walking concussion.

17:03Either he got one or he gave one to someone. Not to get dark, but this was true. Ruben Foster falling into that category as well. How about Ruben Drones? I just like going off the names. Ruben Drones. Ruben Drones makes me think of a guy on my list. Olandis Gary. Yeah. Just like Broncos running backs is fun. CJ Anderson. He had Super Bowl MVP.

17:28Jourdan Rodrigue:Super Bowl touchdown scorer. CJ Anderson. Was he MVP? No, Von Miller was. I remember thinking he could have been MVP. Ronnie Hillman, also on that team, I believe. My favorite thing is when like a really serious and really solid running back has like a little kid's first name, like Timmy Smith. Remember Timmy Smith? He's a Washington running back, like two touchdowns in that Super Bowl. One hit wonder. How about Tatum Bell? I was all over Tatum Bell in like the second round of a fantasy draft with the Broncos running backs.

18:06Glenn Milburn.

18:11You look like you had a good one. You did. You did.

18:14Jourdan Rodrigue:You guys remember Trey Turner? Can't forget Trey Turner. Good career with the Panthers. Played well with the Chargers at a certain point. I'm trying to remember what he was, what he looked like at the Chargers. That was like the COVID season. Strong man. Great style. One time he complimented my shoes in the locker room and it was like the best day of my life. You got a lot of Panthers. Formative memories, man. It's a good one. Formative memories. I'm sure I could convince you to do a little. I know a lot of them are my favorite players. Like Fred Jackson. Yeah. Captain Munderland. Fred Jackson.

18:49I know Bill's fans still remember fondly, but I just, I always, Fred Jackson was my guy. Yeah. Marlon Jackson. I just haven't had another Marlin I know that's what I immediately tried O.N. Marlins but not a lot of like fish Marlins so shout out to Marlin Jackson How about Dequell Jackson? I mean he was just in the NFL but he just feels like a guy that deserves to be made

19:14Jourdan Rodrigue:Again another position already assigned at birth Who's like a guy that when you guys think about your childhood or some flashes of memories when you were watching football I didn't watch football a ton when I was a little kid but I remember you know as I was kind of growing a little bit older I remember two names one good one bad bad was Levi Brown and I was in my friend's car one time and her dad was driving we were going to like a sport like we played like youth soccer or something and they were talking on sports radio about Levi Brown and and the guy in the the dad said human turn style and then turn the radio off I'll never forget it and then the good one I remember always because Ron Wolfley would always yell Carlos Dansby.

19:57Jourdan Rodrigue:And I just loved hearing him yell Carlos Dansby. It just really enamored me. Carlos Dansby, who when I got into a playoff game in high school basketball my freshman year, I went to block out a person who subsumed me, got the rebound and went back up and dunked it. It was Carlos Dansby. Shout out to Woodlawn High School. I'm so glad you brought that up. Yes. Thank you, Jordan. and you've really earned your paycheck today. Hugh Millen, you're talking about teams that you associate with childhood. I, for some reason, loved there was a Dick McPherson Patriots. The team was in a dark place where six wins and winning a few games at the end of the season felt like the peak of all time.

20:43And Hugh Millen, I think they had two rookie of the year running backs on that team, Leonard Russell and John Stevens. Marv Cook was on Tecmo Bowl as like the tight end. Ben Coates, who we already mentioned on that team. Urien Fryer before things went wrong. Were you mentioning Bills players and then like formative players? For some reason, even though he's not that old, Josh Reed, the running back that converted to wide receiver, and it was like for some reason that was just so cool to me. It's like, oh, this guy gets the ball, makes plays in space.

21:26What was his name? The running back on that team, the Vikings, Ontario Hardesty? No. Montario Hardesty? Montario Hardesty. I'm mixing things up. He was a Brown. How about the combination of Cleo Lemon and Greg Camarillo on the Miami Dolphins? Winning that first game for Cam Cameron. just just YouTube Cleo Lemon Greg Camarillo Cam Cameron and you will see a celebration that exceeds many Super Bowl winning championship moments not even joking

22:01Jourdan Rodrigue:I like those I like going down like the YouTube rabbit hole I'm like celebrate like Joe Horn he was the one that pulled the phone out of the end there was right I love that Joe Webb was the first one to shoot the webs you know in my in my in my recollection you know I'm a lot younger than you guys. In my recollection. Just keeps pointing this out. Joe Webb, do it all. So is Patrick. It's like halfway in between. Joe Webb played for a few different teams with the Panthers. He had the audacity to list him as a receiver. Go to Pro Football Reference and look. Guys, what about Brian Mormon? He's a punter.

22:38It's chewy. We have not appreciated enough punters. He was the only Bills Pro Bowler for so long. I would watch the Pro Bowl. I was like, who's the Bills? Oh, the punter. Forever on the highlight reels, wrecked by Sean Taylor in the bubble. I was going to say, one of the most famous punter moments of all time is him getting absolutely destroyed. Getting blasted in a meaningless game. Pops right back up and looks like he's getting his face, but he said he went to go congratulate him on a hit. I had a Brian Mormon jersey, a punter jersey. Goes to show the times. How about, you know, Jeff Fegels?

23:10Jourdan Rodrigue:I was going to say, should we name more punters? I struggle with it off the top of my head. I don't want to cheat. I'm cheating. Shane Leckler is one. Oh my God. I can't believe I forgot. Andy Lee. Andy Lee. Yeah. Yeah. You saying Marquette King, you saying Joe, Joe Horn reminds me of some old favorite saints, like Chris Ivory. Chris Ivory was so ruggedly. Will Smith, RIP. Hmm. Great player. Will Smith. How about, I don't know why I'm just thinking of Alf Morris. Alfred Morris on those Washington teams had a moment. There's something about like a running back that just has a moment for. Yeah. And a great celebration at the baseball celebration.

23:56You talking old saints, it makes me think of Aaron Brooks, who's so many guys favorite player. Good Aaron Brooks years.