NFL Daily 32: Ranking Wide Receivers

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42:06Learn more at don't sleep on osa.com. This information is provided by Lily, a medicine company. Back on NFL daily, we've drafted the 10 best receivers. Unquestioned. No one can doubt our rankings because we agreed with them pretty much. These top 10 guys. Yeah. I have a tier of about, about nine or 10 more guys. And then actually I feel like it's a big drop off, but I don't know where I'm going to go here. I'm curious where Nate Tice goes at pick 11. I am maybe going to go my first kind of like, I would say I'm totally veering to the right, but maybe just like a little, little, little, little turn here.

42:45I'm going to Tetrella McMillan. Ooh. Yeah. Yeah. He's the real deal. And I think another one of those, again, the quarterback situation kind of defeats or doesn't let you see it all the time. but I think we saw it enough last year and obviously offensive rookie of the year, which was a football three Oh one tout. No, but Oh, a top 10 receiver. Oh, a top 10 pick. Oh, I really went on a limb there, but even just underlying stats, 15th, the first downs per outrun right behind Nico Collins, actually tied with Nico Collins. Also more explosive. And these are the guys I'm always going to be high on prospect wise and why I kind of wave away.

43:24Maybe some of the like separation concerns, how they, with the ball in their hands, he is unbelievable an unbelievable athlete he gets the ball in his hands tetra and how fluid he is getting upfield how he can turn and change direction like watch him catch like a stop route on the outside or a hitch and how he can like pivot around a defender and create those yards like he's a very good yak guy for such a big athlete um and also i just think the competitiveness he has he had a couple frustrating drops but man his ball skills got shined i think throughout the year i'm also really high on his teammate jalen coker and i'm also really high on the tight end they have mitchell evans um the the list of receivers that are awesome that might not get drafted here is pretty long and who knows jalen coker could be in the mix here at the end he made my big board i'm not gonna tell you how long my big board went but he made it he's on my big board as well that's wild i had i had t-mac lower but i kept inching him up and maybe i shouldn't punishing too much that i just want to see it like again because sometimes you know it's fair they've just been through it year after year and yet i do love an intermediate slash downfield king and that's that is what he is and he could work with with any offense and he wasn't in the slot much but when he did when he was he often killed people so they started they started moving him there and third down they started designing routes for him on third down and then coker and this is why Coker went up in my head as well.

44:51Coker started lining up on the outside instead of his power slot. And the fact that both can do both, that's super interesting. That's where offenses start cooking is when both receivers, so then you can get to 12 personnel and you can put those guys inside, outside. You can do a lot of cool things when both guys can do both. I struggled, I'm struggling now because I struggled with Garrett Wilson as a prospect. And yet I feel like he deserves to be drafted around here. I think I'm just going to take him. I don't know what to do with him. Okay. Same here, actually. I'm not going to take him. I'm changing my mind.

45:27I got to go with my gut. Dang, I should have just caught him off the board for me. He was next on my board. And if you don't take him with your next pick, I'm going to take him next time around, but I got to go with my gut, which is, I still do want to, I want to put George Pickens here. I know he's next for me. George Pickens was next, swear to God for me. He's a little wild. You know, Now, you do kind of like McMillan. You'd like to see, obviously, Pickens has been in the league longer. Yeah. But you'd like to see him back up that explosion that he had last year. But, man, if you're just talking about last year, the efficiency with which he got to those numbers, it was just outrageous.

46:04And the thing that stands out to me with him was he killed some great cornerbacks or very good cornerbacks. And, look, he benefited when CeeDee Lamb is next to him. but he also was incredibly productive when CD wasn't. There were two performances I think of specifically where he just destroyed Jalen Watson, who just got a nice contract on things, just killed Jalen Watson. And it was even worse against Mike Jackson, who had like a great playoffs, had a great season. If you, according to PFF, was one of the best. And it's like when George Pickens was against those two guys who were not the biggest guys, he destroyed them.

46:36It's a little bit of a high wire act for him, but it also was the most consistent play in football was, it used to be slant to AJ Brown was the most consistent. and now it's slanted george picken so i don't want him to fall any further because he's just nope i would take him if you didn't know on my next pick so i had him at 12 on my board and he goes 12 so that was actually kind of nice no he that's it's kind of like the in between like this because if you look stat wise he was a top five guy last year and then how i rank him in my head is maybe like 15 so here we are at 12 um just another guy that's a true x and again that's not that's a pretty rare skill set and always had had excellent ball skills and just just i mean just the body control that he can have you true pirouettes on the outside but it was just always just consistency and keeping his head on straight now i think being around cd and dac way different kind of mentality but we're seeing a little little old george kind of creep back in maybe with this contract talks maybe not publicly we'll see that's yeah that that probably would knock them down just like the slightest and yet like he's he's too good of a player and i the like yeah you can pick on some like run blocking reps or whatever but the effort level is through the roof on like the other reps so it's not it's not something where i think he's going half speed too often all right you're up with 13 all right this is i have like five candidates i'm looking at here so this is this is tough i'm gonna just stick with my board the top of that kind of group was chris Olave for the saints.

48:05I think finally get to see some health with him. Finally get to see maybe now he's just a competent quarterback, competent situation around him. And that's not even with a real deep receiving room around him. He was kind of on his own outside some, some random touches from other guys. But Olave is kind of showed last year exactly why I was high on him. Even as rookie or I thought he should have been off. It's rookie of the year. It's just wonderful route runner. I mentioned that with JSN. And Alave is up there, too. And Alave has plays bigger than at times as far as he's comfortable. I mean, he takes a lot of hits now, so it's probably going to go away because he's a skinnier guy.

48:43You know, not the strongest guy, but he's tough and willing to get those stuff, get those things. But I do think that the route running is just exquisite. I think now with health and with a better offense, you're actually seeing the production match what he is able to do as a route runner. But, yeah, I really like Alave just overall. And I think this is kind of a fair spot. And I just think this year, like Jordan Tyson might not have like an outstanding rookie year, but no matter what he's going to do is make Olave's life easier. And I just think another year marinating in this offense will make his life easier.

49:13So yeah, Chris Olave, I think is going to have a real nice year this year. Yeah, I had him 14 and he probably would have been a few spots higher if it just wasn't for, and he's had those concussions and injuries. But the one thing that I don't think people get about Olave, Like the numbers support what I think people that are really into the game would know, which is like, look, it's a zone league and he is a zone killer. The part that it was maybe a little surprise to me is his average one second burst, according to next gen stats, like moving for one second. Who's moving the fastest in the league?

49:47And this has been consistent the last two seasons. It's him and it's Alec Pierce and it's Marquez Valdez Scantling. like his burst is like a lot of them is running down the long speed once they pick up yeah yeah and he can do that too obviously but yeah for him it's more just like the one second burst is there and i and i can see that and that's why like a stop route to him is is hard to to stop and even if it's not the biggest it's just the threat of it it's just like oh my and he comes out of the break and it's like whoa all right yeah that's why i loved him i had him one in the class coming out because i was just like this has to like this there's no way this wouldn't work and it has worked that's what i said it just felt extremely safe and you know what shuck is throwing some like in breakers to him i think yes shuck will help open up his game a little bit more he looked like a pro receiver playing college his last year like he was just so good it was for me another guy and this is the thing if i like a receiver under 190 195 and i really like him it's like all right there's gotta be something to him a lava and davante smith are my two like real big exceptions to that and it's like if i hate a quarterback that's big and fast then they must really suck you know it's like the opposite of that uh but no alave i've just i safe is a good way to put it but i i just think he's just that class i had london one and a lava right after him i went one two wilson was the guy i struggled with the most and i still talk about him let's get right to him yeah it's actually that's why i was hoping to segue i just i just don't want him to go any further and yet i it's okay we're in ohio state corner we're picking the ones that we want.

51:18I'm not sure why I struggled with him as a prospect. Like Daniel Jeremiah absolutely loved him. And, and he's been right. And they've been right. Like considering the situation he has been in, he does get open. He's been productive. He's gotten over a thousand yards with, with bad quarterbacks. Now the target share has been huge, but I give him mostly credit for that. Not as good, you know, in terms of like contested catches and yards per route run, some of those things. I want to see it again. He does create separation. So he's not like Stevie Johnson or something. But there is a part of him where it's like, I'm not sure how you do this, but you are doing it.

52:00And he is like an upper tier receiver. I don't think he has quite the ceiling as the guys in our top 12, let's say. But I think he deserves to be in here where, yeah, you're a number one receiver because you're in the top 15 in the NFL, Garrett Wilson. Yeah, and that kind of feels, yeah, we're getting into the range of him, like where he's that kind of mid-low one, however you want to define these things. I think Wilson, all right, I put it this way. The other guys, like Apuka, even JSN, all these guys, they can just be the true one, and they don't need a real number two. They just need auxiliary parts around them.

52:37Fair. Where I think Garrett Wilson ideally would need another guy. He needs another kind of guy to kind of bounce him out, That's the tier we're getting into, I think, with all these receivers. But again, I think this is a tier that he goes in. He's explosive, quick as all get out. He's a creator at receiver. I think as my former coach sometimes knocks him because he's not the most detailed guy, and I think that's where Aaron Rodgers soured on him at times, is that he can just be those guys that are quicker, with really quick feet. They just don't understand sometimes the depth that they have to get to on a route, and it kind of could script all the timing.

53:12OBJ was a guy that was I was gonna I was just gonna say like in a perfect he's the biggest culprit in the best world he's like OBJ Malik neighbors maybe a little bit yes yes yep Judy is probably the bad example like that is more of the where it can go sour um and Judy is probably the worst example that Omari Cooper is another one um and I think that's where I can never just get too high on him because of that it's like I understand why in his head and why his feel like he's like i'm open i get open i separate here i'm separating the timing of my head makes sense but maybe not understanding the context of the play and i think that you have to be so dynamic like a neighbors or an obj or wilson at times to kind of overcome that a little bit so but i i'm not having said all that we should have taken him later we're being too negative uh about our 14 i know gary i know he's a good player i a guy that i like a lot i like a lot i don't like the loose jersey when you try to copy aaron but i do like him a lot all right you're up with 15 yeah you You could stay in Ohio State.

54:11Just keep going Ohio State here. Just saying. If you wanted to create a theme. I have, again, like 40 wide receivers I could pick through here. I was doing all that talk about your pick without even marinating on who I'm going to go with. All right. Can I just merge all the Jaguars receivers into one? No. That would be really nice. Just, you know, Brian Myers, Washington Jr. Parker Washington going 15th overall would be bold. No, no, no, no, I'm not. But I was just saying, can I merge them all into one? Because I can't even separate them on my list. All right. We're kind of talking like a guy that's essentially a low-end one.

54:52But in his role, though, he's a high-end two. I'm going to go with T. Higgins. And this might be a little rich compared to some other guys that are maybe ones in their offense. I can make like a DK Metcalf. There may be a couple of the guys that might be productive this year. But T Higgins and a lot of other offenses would just be the true blue one getting a heap load of targets and a guy that we consider even better than he is. I think production wise, he kind of always ends up getting knocked a little bit because it's just where the when it's per routes run, he's running around knocking the ball.

55:22Mike and knocked a little bit. But even if you just look like he still is a very productive receiver that really can take over games at time. Like there's times that Higgins is unguardable depending on who they're playing against. and again like I said would be considered a true ex a true guy that everyone's like oh yeah this is a number one guy but just because of the offense is not considered that but yeah T Higgins another guy that verticalness more health than anything with him but he's in the prime of his career and yeah I think this kind of kind of range I was a little rich there's some other guys I like but this is more going with my heart here I have a very solid top 20 and he was firmly in it we have similar taste he's a like contested catches is is a hard skill to replicate year after year but it's in the numbers he is a volume contested catch guy and he so he he is like a three-point shooter who not only is you know shooting 40 or whatever yeah this is much higher but that he they're throwing him a key he's also shooting more than everyone else and he does it year after year.

56:26There's actually only a couple of those guys in the NFL. And the numbers always say like his on off splits are crazy with the Bengals. Like they are just not the same without him. When Jamar Chase is not there and he's there for what it's worth, like it's tended to go almost better for him than when it's vice versa. I don't think obviously he's a better player, but I think that just speaks to how valuable he could be if he just got the ball more. So yeah, there's some, I think there was a game against the bills last year where he was just dunking on Hairston and Tredavious White when sometimes he gets those matchups that's to your point about like he can just take over an entire yeah he's he's the high-end number two it's like how many teams have a guy that can match up with him and the ones that don't they just punish him like in yeah so my my 16th overall pick and this might be higher than you had him because I think people are thinking he's getting older as great as T Higgins is uncontested catches the contested catch god for his generation quietly is Terry McLaurin.

57:24It's Terry McLaurin. I mean, and I don't want to over punish him. He's turning 31 this year. Yes. And he missed games for the first time, but he's always been so durable. When he actually played last year, he had the highest yards per route run of his career and they needed him to go deep a lot. And so he went deep a lot. And my eyes told me he still got the juice. He is probably the only player in the NFL that caught a touchdown and a deep pass off Patrick Sertan last year. that impressed me just in that game. Like he got, I mean, Sertan won his share of that battle, but the fact that it was a battle and he's someone, I checked some like old notes occasionally for, for this exercise and they didn't move him around at all with Cliff, but he is the type of guy that for whatever reason, my notes, I just write Terry McLaurin is so good.

58:10Like Terry McLaurin is the man. He's so good. And so I just, if it's my team, I didn't want him to slip any further than this. and just also like perfect for jane daniels because jane daniels likes to pepper those throws on the outside and it was just perfect for him no but it's like you said you mentioned some of these guys the contestant catches are sticky and and can do it you're and he is a guy doesn't matter who's throwing it doesn't matter who's whipping the ball over his way he is statistically he might be the guy of his generation not quite as much volume as some of the other bigger dudes yeah but in terms of like efficiency and making it happen when they throw it to him uh he makes it happen yep he does and also because i have to mention it fantastic blocker okay one of the better one of the better ones actually that's big um yeah i know i know there's something to it not much have you noticed a lot of these guys they're really good receivers are also some of the best blockers too there's something to that i don't know there's something to it um and i wonder how many are left-handed have i ever told you that theory no more pass catchers are left-handed than like when you compare it maybe to that average population whatever that is one in five um i i'm convinced that there's more more pass catchers are left handed drake london's left-handed there's definitely more ohio state products that's four right that we still got five potentially go abuka could still go no that's still go that's four but we still get maybe two more wow okay and again we're Picking this season.

59:41This season only. I have a very solid top 20. We have not gone outside it yet. T-Mac was the most off of my board, but I still had him like 18th. It wasn't that crazy. I would say T-Mac was probably the one, but it wasn't that much. Yeah, it was like when I remember I said a big group of the next that he was in it. So, yeah, again, I would say I would say my next group went from like 14 to like 22. I would say it's next tier. Let's go. You're up with 17. I know, and I'm stalling as I look through a few. All right, you know what? I do think he's going to have a big year. And again, we're getting into this range where it's maybe low end one, high end two range, and maybe that's just me limiting myself because there's some others I want to throw in here.

1:00:24But I'm going to go with Jalen Waddle. I'm going to go with, yeah, super productive, always wins on the field. It's always health because he's not the biggest guy. I think he's in line for a big year. I love that trade. I don't love trading for receivers for everybody, but for the Broncos and this year and what they're trying to be in a wide-open AFC, yeah, go for it. And what they need, creating explosive plays. They've tried designer plays to Marvin Mims. Let's get a guy that just doesn't need it all to be a designer and can turn literally any play and take it to the house. And a team that loves running screens, whether because Sean Payton likes him or Bo Nix prefers to throw a lot of screens, well, okay, let's weaponize it.

1:01:04and has guys and also for an undersized guy has beef around him. Pat Bryant, Cortland Sutton. And that's also what I think is going to help too. Now he's got Sutton who, again, is more of a high, high end two to me than a true one, like in a perfect world. And that's why you pair these two together. But I think he's in line for a big season. Again, it's just always staying on the field for him. But man, Jalen Waddle, now we're getting to the range of more good, great. he's one of the other guys that's truly game breaking like can actually take over a game so that if you kind of notice these guys i'm going towards it's more like chasing the highs of these players that are more super super super super role players i guess they they asked him this week what are you going to bring to the broncos and he was just like speed speed and speed like he knows he knows his game he's great on verticals he's great on yak he's probably the best player on in this draft that you could you could call a jitterbug you know yeah yeah a little bit of a jitterbug and that look the production hasn't been crazy four of his five years it's been either right at a thousand or lower and yet i i am very confident he is what they need and it's gonna be a nice mix and first downs per route run over the last three years just behind davante adams just above justin jefferson and jsn and and no surprise that when tyreek hill got hurt last year Like after that, he had, I think, one of the highest percentages of air yards.

1:02:31You know, he can carry an offense if he needs to. All right. I'm going to go to DK Metcalf. I would say of all my picks, that's the one that surprised me the most of my own. Your own pick surprised you. Yeah. I'm surprised I kind of went with – I ended up going with Waddle, but I think this is the proper range for him. Yeah. My next two players were DK Metcalf and Jalen Waddle. I had Metcalf ahead of him. The complete opposite. Metcalf was the other guy I was thinking of, too. Yeah. The complete opposite and – At a certain point in the DK Metcalf development, we probably overrated his development.

1:03:03Like, hey, he's not just this. Like, he started to develop more than he was as a prospect. And maybe that's true. But what he does, dunking on people, as you would say, and if he's not a totally complete guy, that's fine. He was stuck with Aaron Rodgers. He still is. Like, you want him as a deep threat, and it doesn't work as well. But that's not his fault. And if you actually look at what the Steelers numbers last year, I know on off splits can be a little noisy. But with when he wasn't on the field, they just missed him. Right. It was it was over. So his gravity is really important in this ranking.

1:03:43You know, your boy Arthur Smith really didn't help him out. And so I feel I feel good. Like, again, yeah, he's not one of that. I think people who are hoping maybe he would become a top five to ten receiver. And he's not that guy. It doesn't matter. He's extremely valuable for what he does. No, I think this is, I've never, I've never been the highest guy in DK because I think people misconstrue how he plays. You know, I think you see him and George Pickens are like, yeah, yeah, two dunk artists. And it's like, well, he's more catching run and then a slant guy, you know, DK is. And it's funny because you mentioned the on-off splits, which was, I, during the season, I looked that up.

1:04:20It was atrocious when he wasn't on the field. And the same thing was in that offense or in that ecosystem, I should say, the year before with Pickens when he was still a Steelers. When he was on the field, it was like, oh, yeah, pretty good offense. Off the field, the worst offense in the league that they couldn't do, can't do a single thing. So it kind of finally carried over for two years. No, I think this is a proper spot for him. Like I said, he was the guy I was debating, was Waddle or DK Metcalf with those two. So he kind of ended up going exactly where I was going to. I wish he had a different quarterback this year, but I do have some hopes for the Mike McCarthy Steelers offense.

1:04:55And I do feel like I'm a little higher on the Steelers in general than consensus. All right. You're up, you're up on 19. I, I, I, I'm going to put a pin on that Steelers conversation. I'm still, it's the quarterback, man. It's the quarterback. Yeah, that's it. But I actually think the defense could be pretty good. Which is funny because I think, I think most people don't think that's the thing that's limiting it. It's like, no, at least for me. No, I do. I agree. I think defense pretty good. I think the old line is going to be good. I think the run game will be good. And like the weapons are actually solid.

1:05:28Like, you know, I I'm right there with you. Um, man, again, I have a little tear break here and there's two teammates. I'm actually deciding between, um, because one is more, am I betting the disco stew stock up or one? I'm just saying I'm betting the respect of what he is. Do you know who those teammates are? They play in the, um, uh, no, but, Oh, all right. Maybe I'm going to, I'm going to go with a Mecca. abuka here okay those weren't the teammates okay chris godwin jr was the teammate i was thinking oh okay interesting it was a little rich for godwin jr but i do feel like he has to be he has to be talked about somewhere soon okay um now i'm gonna with the mecca abuka and there's a lot of guys i'm considering here like even like a rashy rice i actually think even with all his crap it's kind of where we're gonna start differing yeah yeah and this was gonna be fun but a mecca abuka and this is betting on the flashes they showed yes or last year which was like contender for offensive rookie of the year every fantasy guy saying wow you guys were all wrong look how right i am look at my dynasty dynasty team i can't believe i have a mecca buka look at these stat analysis about how wrong you guys are then he got banged up and hurt like everybody else with the bucks but i think he's gonna be a locked in top 20 receiver for the rest of his career um i i think extremely high floor player but showed last year he has more ceiling much like his teammate chris Godwin did when he entered the league and became a pro.

1:06:51I think just does it all, combine the slot, combine the outside. Every route's available to him. Like I mentioned before, it's just I think him having a little bit. The Seattle game is maybe doing a lot in my head, but it's one of those where he showed that he can do more than I think maybe he even showed at college. You know, underlying stats were more kind of middle of the pack, but he did have a lot of explosives, which, again, is kind of what I'm speaking to as well. but I do think that as he even becomes more professional or as his pro career goes along, the rest of the bucks offense stays healthy on top of his health and whatever happens with Baker or beyond, I still think he can be a productive guy.

1:07:26So I'm going to just throw in a Mecca of Buki here. And maybe it's just, I want to make an argument for him more than other guys, even if I do like a couple of the other guys that we can talk about soon. Yeah. Mina Kimes, our friend who you just did the show with last week in terms of the best offenses. She, she talked about a book at length. and so I'm going to steal some of her notes because I was just like, well, that makes sense. Well, he was just great versus zone coverage. When he had off coverage, the numbers are great, but teams started pressing him. He didn't handle that as well. I had him lower.

1:07:57I had him 25th, but they talked about moving him around as a Z. It's not that much different here to me. I guess I want to see the ceiling. There were some drops. He struggled a little bit in the contested catches, So I did have two more guys in my I thought for me, I had a tier top 20, which was pretty clear. And I had two more guys in it. And I'm just going to go with my gut right here and go for the high ceiling. And that is a man you mentioned earlier. Man, this is hard. It is hard. I know there's a lot of flavors I can go. Screw it. It's my team. I'm taking Brian Thomas, Jr. And it's always been about the eye test for me with him.

1:08:40There's only so many humans. Because he moves different. Because he moves different. I get it. He got in his head last year. He can get out of his head. He got in his head, and now he can get out of his head. He played more slot when Jacoby Myers arrived, which was surprising. And he just did not pick up that offense, period. I think it was pretty obvious it was a mental thing. Yep. I think he can get over that. And then we get back to where, closer to where he was as a rookie, where he had more deep receiving yards than any rookie in a long time other than Jamar Chase. And the way that he moves, I know the yak was down last year, but to me, if I'm at this point in the draft, I want a guy that has a, is there anyone left that could be a top, like eight receiver?

1:09:27And Brian Thomas Jr. to me is maybe that guy, possibly. Like he's got to refine some things. I could maybe, like, there's a timeline, I could argue. But, you know, it depends what you're going for. That's what I'm going for. If it was my team, I would just take them. We did on our Football 301 last year, we all drafted, or we just ranked our top 10 receivers. I think I had BTJ at 10 just because I was like, hey, Disco Stew, graph going up forever. Let's do this. And what you said, the eye test, he moves different. Like, you don't see 6 '4 guys with those type of feet. and the guy that can run it's just more his hands it's a good feet the hands are a little inconsistent but i agree i he was swimming last year um and that's where the jacoby myers trade wasn't just roll stuff it was jacoby i think calmed him down mentally okay now we can just have btj run nothing but outbreakers as opposed to any any aim breakers um like that that was what was bug or we'll just have jacoby run the end breakers now so if you are betting on just like hey how he shored up in the you know maybe after week 10 after jacoby myers got there then yeah i can bet that because the talent's there it's just right yeah like you said getting the head on straight because but if he touches talent that's a top 10 guy if it's it's very self-selecting in terms of what off-season storylines you will believe in yeah yeah yeah but since it's confirming my priors john shipley does a great job covering the jaguars exactly what you're going to talk about and ship said he's been dominant right yeah and he said last offseason that brian thomas jr was struggling in the offseason and so that's why you have reporters on the ground.

1:10:59And so I'm willing to buy this Brian Thomas Jr. is dominant here in year two of Liam Cohn. Let's take a break where you will wrap up with our final 12 receivers in a minute.

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1:14:10Learn more at dontsleep on osa.com. This information is provided by Lilly, a medicine company. We love ball here at NFL Daily. Our guests love ball. Our co-hosts love ball. I don't know if anyone loves ball more than Nate Tice. I mean, even during the break of this show, we're talking about how complex the Jaguars offense is. He just can't stop talking ball. He knows ball. And I've got a two-part question here because you're up with 21. It doesn't have to be your pick. I felt like I had a solid top 20 before it just got really messy. There's only one player left on my board that's in that top tier.

1:14:55It doesn't have to be your pick. Can you guess who that player is? And is it your pick? We'll see. I don't know if even that would be a different answer. How have you been going? I don't think it would be the one that came to mind at first. Is it... I have two that come to mind. Okay. right it's not dj is it dj more no you're going to the bills okay is it davante adams no okay all right do you just make your pick and i'll reveal all right mine's davante adams okay um and this is a sheer just this year production designated hitter watch him score 15 touchdowns he might not break a thousand yards but he's gonna be highly productive on his touches um but still highly productive on his touches he is 34 this year 33 34 this is my scariest pick this is this is this is a red flag year and this is my honorary i i just if it does hit if he does play 14 games and averages a touchdown a game yeah we're great so but even if he does deflate a little bit when those stats and it's just a little less productive i still think this he could be a top 20 as far as just production wise last year fifth and first downs per route run top 20 and everything else um and on top of it just had touchdown after touchdown even was a at least for the first month was trying to block a little bit and make Sean McVay happy.

1:16:14And then he was like, ah, my hamstring hurts. Nevermind. We're not doing that again. But no, this is some honorary selection here, but I do think he'll be productive when he is on the field, even if they lean towards more tight ends and Pukunikua and all that good stuff. The highest average up the target of his career, despite being that red zone merchant, which is a one yard wonder, a weird combo. Little bit of a red flag to me. They sounded like, okay, with possibly trading him this year. There was also a stat on NextGen. Yeah, it sounded like if they were going to try to bring in A.J. Brown, Devontae Adams would go somewhere else.

1:16:47They had to talk. And granted, you're replacing him with A.J. Brown still. Sometimes he saw pretty favorable coverage. He didn't always make it count. There was a stat from NextGen that the only game, or maybe it was the most snaps, one cornerback played against one wide receiver where every single snap of the game was one cornerback against one receiver all season was Nate Wiggins against Devontae Adams. And he didn't make him pay at all. It was just all Nate Wiggins all the time. And he caught like one pass for five yards or something, had a long PI. But there were some drops. I mean, look, I have Devontae Adams on my list.

1:17:25He was a little bit lower, but just some red flags. But he's either going to be a great pick or a bad pick. Like he might be much better than this. That's why he's smack dab in the middle for me. You know, 21 or ish, middle-ish. The other guy that I thought really deserved to be in my tier was Ladd McConkie. Okay. I get the injury stuff or else he would be higher. That's the concern is he didn't hold up through games. Because when I talked about Brian Thomas Jr., is there a route to him being a top 10 receiver? I think that's true of Ladd McConkie too. He would do it in a different way. His rookie season was so good.

1:18:00Like he can play outside and inside. He's better inside. I mean, he was one of the highest percentages in the league, although I do think Keenan Allen kind of messed him up. They were a little too duplicative. But he also didn't play as well last year, whether it was the contested catches. Herbert and him weren't always on the same page. It wasn't a great year, but he showed me what his highest level can be. And he's just got to be able to, like, finish games without limping to the sideline more often because he does finish games and start games. It's just a size thing. But, man, he can be a great player.

1:18:32I think you agree with that. Like there is a world where he gets a little stronger and more durable, Nate, where he is just unstoppable. I think there is a world that we could live in where that's the case for McConkie. I've told you ever my comparison for him for Ladd as a prospect. It was Emmanuel Sanders. OK. And Emmanuel had some injury stuff early in his career. And then he started rattling off 16 games, 16 games, 16 games. And I will say some of the Ladd stuff, and sometimes this is what we forget, how did this guy go in the second round? how'd this guy go in the third round he had injury concerns in college too yep and that's the scary part that it's already a thing with him and then he hits the nfl and it's like continuing to be a thing so that that is only thing that knocks him for me because it's not ability because he has inside outside abilities a great route runner he's got great hands um also i think one of the coolest things and this is where i started i like lad coming out of georgia i had him as a top 40 guy um but what really stood out to me was his rookie year was they played the panthers and herbert had to break contain a bunch again to scramble drills a bunch and he kept finding lad yep and how lad lad's kind of he just has that feel like a lot of these top guys we talk about they have that feel that spatial awareness to go oh i should throttle right here and stay safe to the quarterback or stay nice to the quarterback oh i got sprint up here and get vertical on this like he just has that kind of innate feel for playing the position um but man quick as all get out really good route runner good hands it's just health really that's it not exactly your type you like the big guys i like him no but also yeah i like him no i like him i just think he's what do you have made your top 32 oh yeah yeah yeah no he was i mean well within the next like five picks you know for why or i guess i guess it would be three picks for me i guess would be best way to put it um the thing is i'm actually also optimistic one about the run game in in la but i also am optimistic optimistic that McDaniel can actually make Johnson work more consistently Quinton because of the yak ability as far as like those runway routes that he's actually good at he's not great at a lot of things but when he can pick up steam and go that's what that offense is all about on those play actions creating those opportunities so like it's not to knock lad I think lad's gonna cook but I think Quinton Johnson's actually gonna kind of really rise this year even if he's not a top 32 guy but just be better this year more consistent I think lads their best receiver and is their most important but i probably like them even slightly more in reality than i do in fantasy because i agree with gadsden and they're gonna spread it around they're gonna run i don't know if his numbers will go crazy but that's fine i think he's gonna be great you are up with pick 23 we're into our final 10 yeah i know again we're getting into the the funny pages area um because now it's just who i want to argue for all right i'm gonna go with one because i know this is kind of a hot topic at least this receiving room is and i know everybody has a new favorite crush in this receiving room but i'm going to go with the original crush everyone had and that's roman dunze for the bears nice yes i know it's a little high and but i do think that this year he finally puts it together as far as he's battled some health stuff too weird and contested catches as well for a guy that was so good at him and so physical as a player he's another great blocker type um but still has been really productive uh like even with inconsistencies and also weird chemistry with Caleb, even though they're like buddies.

1:21:52Yeah. Like they said, they haven't ironed it out yet. And usually buddies firing it out a little quicker than that. So, but no Rome, I think this year is like, we actually like puts it all together. I think this is the classic year three leap. Is it your three year four leap now? You're a four leap, I guess for him where you got to see it parts last year, like everybody in that bears offense. And I know the excitement about Luther burden. And I agree with a lot of that excitement. but Luther still has a little ways to go with some of the route running polish where I think Odunze they wanted him as the X and I think they started to realize oh we can kick you inside be a power guy we can kick you on the outside being under or as a Z and being underneath guy as well so I think they're just kind of figuring out exactly how to use him best but I mean last year he was 24th the first first downs per route run right behind Chris Alave right above Alec Pierce right above Justin Jefferson Devante Smith like he was still productive and what people are considering kind of a lost year really um but i i still i'm betting on the talent coming through this year and and and really i do think when i watched that offense even if he wasn't getting the ball there's a lot more positive snaps with him so really just finishing some plays um but i i'm still very high on a dude say he's uh he was lower on my list i don't know if he would have gotten taken in the end but that's i have a little garrett wilson with him to me they're they're not similar but just i've never quite gotten there and yet the numbers are good the you know bat harman's numbers are good for him getting open like he is a pretty complete receiver it's only year three by the way so you know going to year three right yeah his third year i'm gonna go with someone this same this is caleb that's right this is the most um flag plant i've had so far and this maybe you'll laugh at this but if it was my team and I hope it's not a small sample size that I'm falling for Michael Wilson but I don't know man I just love Michael Wilson oh no that was mine okay that was no all right so he was 27 for me and I was gonna take him whenever that pick came around I mean I don't know it's a little bit of what I talked about with Nico and I was like is everyone watching this because I it did take a little bit to get going obviously but watching and obviously fantasy football I'm not breaking any news to them.

1:24:04He carried some teams to a title last year because his numbers were, you know, top five in the NFL down the stretch last year, especially when Marvin Harrison was hurt. He led the NFL in yards and yards per catch over expectation. And I just, the more I watch him, like, what can he do exactly? Because he can take a short one long. He can run long. He's physical. They use him in motion a lot. Like I, I saw what I saw. It matters more than his college tape it matters more than what happened before he's in the pro doing it his his contested catch numbers are bananas the last two years we'll see how sticky it goes but it's a two-year sample size he's 33 for 52 according to pff over the last years that's literally the best in the nfl i just feel like i've seen enough he's freaking awesome uh and he can be a he can be a one it's weird because he's with marvin harrison and they can just be a tandem but if If he's the best receiver on your team, I think you can build in a group around him.

1:25:04I also think it's a great bet. He fits so perfect in that offense. If I think what he's going to run, he is he's built just like Puka. He literally said in a press conference, Michael Fleur. Yeah, he's going to be like in the Puka role. And yeah, it's because he can play inside and outside. He's a power slot. So I love Michael Wilson. So I'm all about this pick. no matter what he was going to get taken for me somewhere it was just me justifying it um so i'm glad you you threw it out here and i may i actually even still relatively bullish on mh uh marvin harrison jr i think relative to public um but i i do think too like and also disclaimer i'm probably not going to draft neighbors just because i have no idea what to do with him but the injury stuff i even though i i trust the talent it's just more him availability but with wilson it's inside outside ability willing blocker green the intermediate stuff because he's got that power and just that fluidness that we talk about with a lot of these guys and why he's getting mentioned as the the puka nakuo roll quote-unquote is because he's pretty good with the ball in his hands as a because of his contact balance and so maybe some jet sweep stuff but he's just a great blocker that can play on the inside it's kind of like that de facto tight end the cooper cup which became the puka nakuo roll which now it could be michael wilson so uh i love this pick i think he's a hell of a player and yeah more there's this one was for us and i like that yes i love that for us i sniped him from you it's also for me but really uh the list that that eric puts out it's not you know we're owning this together so we wanted to we wanted to look good and everything yells at us at the end of the season you're up with 25 oh boy um this might be my my kind of like it's not really he just got paid that's christian watson i'm just gonna go with him yeah i was gonna he was i had like a list of guys i don't know if they all will get drafted but he was right at the bottom of my i want him to make this list like he's in my top 32 but i just know you'll take some other guy i was just like yeah he deserved i want him at the end of this list if possible you want to talk about him at some point yeah it's um watson is not a guy i was high on coming out of college uh he's a guy that's grown on me and i think that's because his game's grown uh even drops he's cut that down and And whether that stays sticky, we'll see.

1:27:18But he just looks more confident as a player. He battled injuries even last year. But when he was on the field, he's just so highly productive. Leading into last year and last year. Last year, 117 receivers, 200 more routes. Watson ranked 10th in first downs per route, 4th in yards per route, and 3rd in explosives per route. And doing it in more of a real way, not just straight go balls. He's added a lot of branches to his route tree. incredibly explosive but as a great athlete and now that he's more confident in his hands the production is kind of about you know exploding off of that um that on top of the stuff that he's already kind of shown that he can do so more about health with him but he's a guy i know he got paid i was surprised and sometimes it's my own fault i don't look at just true box score numbers enough like i look at the true media rate stats so much that i forget how many total yards they go for it was like when romeo dobs got signed i'm like oh my god he had such a breakout year and he had like what 800 yards and i'm acting like he went for 1400 um same with watson i forget that but i was surprised when he got signed how many people were just like oh my god look at that it's like no he's really he was truly one of the most improved players in the entire nfl last year when he was on the field um and really become one of my more favorites because he's so explosive and stuff so again throw him out here yeah i i love it he he has some crazy again giving me some credit on her like X Factor show the on off splits for Watson in his entire career with or the last four years are crazy.

1:28:47They, he similar, obviously similar to DK Metcalf, but obviously very different as a player. But I think the gravity that Watson brings and just, he's a problem that you have to have a plan for, help out everyone else. And then, yeah, last year, he just felt like he became more of a complete receiver and you're getting him like a real receiver and and you're getting him another year healthy he was that good coming off of a torn acl so that that's strong i'm gonna go zay flowers okay zay flowers okay you know watson was just one of those where it's like i can't believe how high i've gotten on him and now again it's one of those guys i wouldn't say i've stayed level on him i've really risen how my how i estimate him how i rate him and and it's really been it's it's cool i love when we say Same with Dobbs, same with his teammate or former teammate.

1:29:39It's just guy. I love when that happens when I got like, yeah, OK, I see the athleticism. But when it works and it's like, oh, sweet, like all that work you guys put into him, it's actually coming out and coming to fruition. So I think he's I think he's going to surprise some people, maybe just the raw stats this year and just it's going to be more real for everybody. Yet you have a great perspective as someone who's so deep into the draft. But it is great when you see these. speed guys, size guys that, well, if they can develop by year three, by year four, they could be this. Watson, to me, is a great example of that, where he is doing that development.

1:30:14Flowers is a guy who I think, similar to Garrett Wilson before, is maybe not either of our perfect flavors. And yet, I just, the numbers are so undeniable. I just feel like he should be on this list somewhere, and he was next on mine, so I'm just going to take him. He's so unique. like yes he's been playing with a hall of fame quarterback which has helped a lot does he need to have a great quarterback like he he's been helped by that but he he he does get open and similar a little bit to amon rossst brown like they build a lot out of him like he is used in motion more than any wide receiver in the nfl period full stop like he is always moving and he's someone that you have to account from the separations are numbers numbers are there the yards per route run are straight up elite when they use them in the slot like it is extremely efficient by the numbers also throughout his career not just raw numbers which are also very consistent but just by the the advanced numbers he looks like he's the exact same guy every single year he it doesn't feel that way because he's certainly not on a route to route basis but basically the zay flowers you get is you get them back every year and it's extremely productive and And so at a certain point, I just feel like we have to take us some Zay Flowers.

1:31:32Yeah. So put it this way. He was in my draftable range. I was never going to take him. Yes. I had a feeling, which is why I even took him there. It's like, no, I insist. No, I insist. It's kind of like, yeah. I understand where the talent is. Yeah, he's just not my kind of flavor. There's some frustrations I have sometimes where he always works backwards with the ball in his hands. But I understand his ability. Like I think he's a very good number two. Like they've been desperately needing another one. I don't think Elijah Stratton is going to be that as much as I like him. But I did like that flavor kind of change.

1:32:07But no, Flowers for what he is, is good and actually plays more like a real receiver than I think he gets credit for because of what he looks like, how small he is and everything. But he's always been, even at BC, just a guy that runs a full route tree and everything. And I like how you put it. He's always moving. It's a good way. It kind of got a good way to put it. But yeah, he's kind of a, not a jitterbug, a sugar bug. He's just chock full of sugar on this stuff. So I like that. As much as his stats have maybe gotten inflated because he's clearly the best guy, they also would be a little bit of a mess without him as a receiver group.

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1:35:10If anyone has ever said you snored loudly or if you spend your days fighting off excessive tiredness, irritability, and concentration issues, it may be due to OSA. OSA is a serious condition where your airway partially or completely collapses during sleep, which may cause breathing interruptions and oxygen deprivation. Learn more at don't sleep on osa.com. This information is provided by Lily, a medicine company. All right. You are up with 20. Oh, man. There's some fun ones I just really want to talk about. So I'm, I'm, I'm making my little kind of like short list, uh, for the, for our next pick.

1:35:48So hopefully we get to talk about all these guys. All right. I already took the one teammate. No, do I, do I want to, all these guys have a teammate drafted? I think, except for one all right I'm just gonna go with him because I just trust the quarterback and I'm gonna go with DJ Moore uh at 27 not a guy that has kind of disappointed me the last couple years some of his attitude stuff some of the the effort stuff I've seen I won't I'll some of the attention to detail as well I don't think him and Caleb just really bonded I have no idea I know nothing about that I'm just guessing off what I watched on film um and I just one of these guys that going to Buffalo, though, even if they overpaid a little bit for him, I do think that he's going to eat in that offense because they've needed someone that can win vertically down the sideline.

1:36:37I also think he's always just been a good like yak guy on screens and handoffs and everything. And I think that offense, I mean, it's built out of bubbles. You know, as much as I love Khalil Shakir, you only can do that so much. But him and Dalton Kincaid run those bubbles. Now you got DJ Moore, who's another dynamic player. But I think Josh Allen has now, he never attacks the sideline anymore because he just never had a player. They try to do with Keon Coleman, DJ Moore, even if he's not built like it, he can run an X route tree, meaning he can run vertical. He can run stop routes and win isolated.

1:37:09So I'm going to throw him out here. I actually was thinking maybe the guy I was kind of like, you know, peppering out there just thinking about was his old teammate Luther Burden as a breakout year. I know, I know. And another guy that's kind of like, I like more as a pro than even as a prospect. But I think more though, I think in this offense, this year only is going to be very productive and be quite easily a top 27 receiver. I think I like them way better in fantasy than in reality. I don't think I would have taken him. He was a little bit like Zay flowers for you because there's just too much inconsistency where it feels like you can't trust.

1:37:47He's going to do what you want him to do. and I even look back at the Panthers trade and wonder like, hmm, were they a little tired of DJ Moore? Some of the effort stuff I think was real. And so I think he'll be really productive. I actually think he'll get a great year out of him and that is what this is about, 2026. So it totally makes sense as a pick. And yet I didn't want him on my team. I feel like I'm a super team. That's the thing. Real football, if I were like drafting guys, he'd kind of be off my board. You know, here betting just production, and betting what it could be. Okay, this is my head, not my heart kind of a selection here.

1:38:25It's kind of just what he is going to be, and I think what he's going to be in that Buffalo offense. So very similar to Christian Watson, I believe Jamison Williams' development gets him a spot on this list. And I had him just a little bit higher. They were both quite draftable on my list to Watson, but similar in that you've seen him get better at the things you were hoping early in his career where now he's doing much more of the route tree when amon ra got hurt against the packers jameson williams steps up like i don't think you'd want him to be your one but he could have a bigger load than than he really does his yards per target on in breakers and this is because he just takes these things to the house is higher than like anyone ever over the last two years it's just like because every like 12 of those he just runs for 75 yards so i I don't know if that's misleading or not, but he stretches the field.

1:39:17They're using him on short throws a little more, but obviously he's great with the yak. He's great with the deep ball. My style of receiver would just really help out any receiver room, Jamison Williams, getting better and better. Yep. We did our skill player draft. So many drafts this time of year. I know. I know. I wanted to change it up, and we kind of had a – I did it with some rules where it's like, you're basically building a skill player room. So it's like, you had to take a tight end. You had to take a running back. You had to take two receivers. And then you had like a flex. And even Charles McDonald, he took Jameson as a top, you know, 15 guy, but he was doing it from a team building perspective.

1:39:55Cause he goes, well, my other guys, no one can create space like Jameson Williams. He's like, this guy is not going to catch many balls, but he's going to help everybody else out. And I was like, you're right. Like he's who, maybe a guy, Deshaun Jackson was like that. You know, when we were younger, I wouldn't say to the extent, like they're different, different flavors, but kind of what those guys, the boost that those guys provide for everybody else, like it's, it's as worth as much the yards that they put up as well. So I had him as my next, he was on that next little chunk of guy. So I was hopefully going to take him this either the next pick or the pick after that.

1:40:26So I know this, I'm going to, all right, I'm going to go with the guy. This one, this one's just for me. Keep, keep in mind. You only got two more picks left. So if you only have two players, you feel like need, can I just tell you, can I just tell you my short list and then that would make it just no that's giving it away that's giving it away i want to i want to gauge your reaction i'll play poker like show my my hand and just see what your reaction was um this one's for me okay this one's for me and i understand he's hurt right now and i understand that we don't even know what his timeline is i'm going with alec pierce because i just want to plant this flag and not play he's next on mine he's actually fallen further than i had i only had two players left i was like i'm going to draft those two players alec pierce is one of those two i mean we got it it's only the injury that's even not that's really yeah even regretting having him below dj moore um no pierce is i just talked about vertical guys like jameson williams uh and uh deshaun jackson pierce has that in spades that's why he got paid money and then last year you got to see him he's not going to be the pristine route runner that's not going to be how he wins but the fact that he has the 103 mile an hour fastball now his off-speed pitches are just enough like just enough you have to worry about the curveball just enough you have to worry about the slider that the fastball is so much more dangerous because he can throw that at any time as the houston texans and but also now he is threatening defenses with his breaking routes a little bit more out routes a little bit more comebacks um again he's a little stiff hipped and that's why he just even physically he's always gonna be limited as a route runner but ball skills and speed, maybe the best in the league.

1:42:04You know, just like you're talking about Jameson, Jameson's a little different flavor as a yak guy, but I think there's very few there are even in the same tier as Alec Pierce. So I think he's on top. That's why he got paid and just become more of a complete player than even just kind of those big plays that obviously grab the highlights. No, no one like them in the NFL and not just leading the league in yards per reception by far back-to-back seasons, 22 and 21. just like outrageous 1970s on the Chargers type numbers, which is fun to see. Lance all over. But his average like ADOT is over 20, which is crazy.

1:42:39There's no one else around him or like him. One thing I think that showed how good he is is when Phillip Rivers came in, the rest of the passing game kind of fell apart. But Alec Pierce was still getting his buckets. Like he still made it happen with Phillip Rivers down the field. So I don't like the vibes with the contract and the injury. it's a lot of pressure but weird but he had to be taken i was actually kind of glad that he re-signed with indy because i i said this during the free agency period i go he's gonna get overpaid by another team and no matter what he'll never live up to that contract no matter how good he is on a per route production bay you know efficiency rate the stats fans are gonna go thousand yards we just paid you 28 million a year you know like i and so i'm actually kind into glad he went back to indie um like as far as just expectations and just you know just hometown hero that kind of stuff and everything but i know i actually almost regret not having them above more yeah that kind of makes me yeah i want kind of recap retcon and flop those two okay i i am i'm gonna take mike evans you you took the guys i pierce was the last of my guys that i felt like had to be i was wondering if you take mike evans okay yeah i didn't know Pierce was the last one that had to be on my list, and you did it for me.

1:43:55Evans is next up for me. I know last year it was trendy to say, well, he still looked like Mike Evans completely when he was out there, and he's still great versus man, but he never gets a lot of yak, but it really was like a next level of not getting it. It's like zero yak, so he's a very specific flavor. He's 33 years old now, but I think it's a skill set that will work. And look, if you ask me to choose between Mike Evans and Devontae Adams, for instance, if one of them happened to really fall off, I actually would say Adams would be more likely than Evans. I think Evans is going to be a valuable role player plus for the 49ers, and they're really excited to have him.

1:44:44I think he matches up pretty well, actually, with how Brock Purdy is precise in the red zone. But also, Brock Purdy throws a nice touch deep ball like Drew Brees style. And that's what Mike Evans does great. It's a lot of contested catches 30 yards down the field. And so I think Evans will be good for the 49er.

1:45:06My just made me think of a new Purdy take is that Brock Purdy is if Johnny Manziel worked out in the NFL. like that as far as arm strength even athleticism like because birdie's a better athlete than people realize and he's a good scrambler uh yeah that's even size wise are kind of similar size but that's that's who had texas a &m watch mike evans rumble on alabama it's some of the most impressive stuff you'll ever see uh no love it i was curious i didn't know what to do with mike evans and i i really didn't for this exercise i mean love it in a real football sense and i actually i had ricky pierce hall is one of the names as a draftable name for me okay well we're gonna have a just missed list because we only have two picks yeah i know but i'm stalling because i don't i know we have to get out of here and i'm stalling and i'm just really debating a lot of players here you can list a bunch of them now because it's your last pick and you're gonna have luther burden yeah rasheed rice because i'm higher on rasheed rice than everybody and i understand all the stuff marvin harrison jr because again i'm higher than him than everybody corlin sutton as kind of a respect pick because he actually is kind of like the quietest top 30-ish receiver in the league he's officially next on my board I don't know if I'm gonna take him but I'm with you I just felt like I had to give him the respect he was inside my top 30 Ricky Pearsall I actually am pretty optimistic about this year it's just health and actually at my one Ricky non was Carnell Tate just because I do think he's gonna get he's gonna eat and just get a lot of touches this year and I like Carnell Tate um you know and then other guys I was like I don't know what to do with these guys Chris Godwin Jr.

1:46:38is one Malik neighbors was one. I mentioned Mike Evans is one. It's like, I don't know what kind of really rank you guys. So that was hard. And that Jalen Coker for fun. So 31 though, I'm just the guy that's on my list, Luther burden. Why not? That's a, he was top of my list. Just go with that. Go with that. I wanted you to take Sutton just so that the Broncos fans won't be mad at us. Oh, they're going to, they're going to roast us. Well, maybe I'll take them 32. I don't know. There you go. They love being angry. You can just, yeah, but Luther burden, I liked as a prospect. I had him as a late first, early second guy.

1:47:12You know, I think like 28 on my big board, something like that. I saw the talent, but these guys are always huge, red, big, big, big, giant, deep, deep red alarm bells. Red flags is gadget guys. Their only slot. They get a lot of plays designed for them. whether that's scarring from Troy Williamson, whether that's just, I knew that would get you, whether that was just a lot of guys that have come out over the years. I was in the green room with Troy Williamson during his draft. The only draft I spent in the green room. I don't know why I was there for NFL.com. Bigger guy than you would expect, Troy Williamson.

1:47:52Yeah, he's well built. Yeah, just couldn't catch and couldn't run a route. Other than that, though, he could run. and and yeah that was a bad draft class to have two first round picks too that was because the other receivers were like braylon edwards um michael clayton um was another one in that class we drafted vikings drafted erasmus james too that was it was just just awesome five-star draft um no but uh who'd i draft oh yeah luther burton is that well one another guy that's bigger than i think people realize a great athlete very fluid still a little raw he caused an interception last year by throwing a hand up and going rogue on a route, which is a big no-no in the NFL unless you're Randy Moss.

1:48:34And also, though, more of a dirty work, gritty player than I gave him credit for and has more outside ability than I maybe give him credit for and already has shown that. And I think already has shown Ben Johnson that. And I think Ben Johnson's very giddy about him. And, I mean, I wish I could draft Colson Love on, like, one of this group. but I think burden is just shows more of a real receiver on top of the, I mean, truly exceptional body control and contact balance and what he can do with the ball in his hands. And he already shown that he can be an average ish route runner. So even if he just gets to above average, the blocking the completeness of him, that's a very exciting, very dangerous player.

1:49:14So yeah, Luther burden. I want to give a little shout to if I feel like Luther burden becoming as good as I think he's going to be as is, is almost going to prove my cadarious honey, hype right years later. That's a great example. We're canarius. Tony let us down a little bit, though. He had a moment in the Super Bowl. Luther Burden will make it happen. No, I agree with you. Luther Burden is so much stronger and complete, and he landed in a perfect situation, and that matters. It does. I know. Now I'm curious who you end with, other than Cortland Sutton, honorary pick. If you're listening, Broncos fans, Cortland Sutton is next on my list and would have officially been like 27th on my list.

1:49:5615 explosive plays on late down. I'm not taking him. The most explosive plays on late downs of anyone in the NFL. Very similar. He got boxed out here by Mike Evans, who is a similar style of player. Sutton has been a volume contested catch guy over the years. He kind of reminds me of a lesser T. Higgins if T. Higgins had his own team. Like this is what it would look like for T. Higgins. I think a little bit. And yeah, I just want to take someone I'm more excited to just see on that graphic. I feel wrong about not having Malik neighbors on the graphic. So I know he's injured, and that's like, what are we even doing with this?

1:50:31But I don't care. I want to just slide him in at 32 because he's Malik freaking neighbors. And he's a unique style, but I mean, his rookie season. Like, even before he got hurt last year, his percentage of air yards was the highest in the NFL. as a rookie. He's top five in targets per area. You can build a lot of the offense around him. I do think he's another level. He's not a Zay Flowers. No, no, no, no. He is at a much higher I don't know if it's OBJ level, but it's so exciting that even if he's not ready and this injury is really concerning, I just want to slide him in here at the end and just have him represented.

1:51:19as a prospect even in his rookie year he's one of those guys where it's like the coach in me was like oh he doesn't do this right doesn't do this right and then the personnel evaluator in me was like but he does this but he creates an explosive play every time he touches it but he throws or catches it one-handed behind his back as he's falling out of bounds like i can't teach that um if he were healthy and everything's hunky-dory he's low teens for me like you know you know that's probably the range of the lava range, you know, Garrett Wilson. Yeah, that's about right. Volatile guys. And I, cause the talents there, like he has top five talent.

1:51:56It's just, you know, now it's just that health stuff. And again, the, that draft class was so cool with him and Harrison Jr. And, and even a Dunze was, it was so hard. It was so many parts of my brain screaming at each other about what I valued the most so far. No, one's really been right. I guess if you're the neighbor's guy you could say you're right there but yeah man he's just so talented i totally get this pick but again i told you i i had no idea what to do with him with the health stuff but yeah i mean i feel a little weird about because either like we're saying he's going to be healthy and then he would be higher or he's not and then he wouldn't even be on it yeah i'm on the list right yeah yeah like sutton i mentioned was next on my list the other names the probably the other guy i would have taken just because i wanted to give him a shout out is jordan addison who i think is really an underrated player um just so good on the outside like the outbreaking routes are just outrageous for him as a rookie he was so good and so addison sutton i thought a little jacoby meyer certainly marvin harrison jr josh downs if we were really going deep um those are some of the names i thought i thought about but yeah he can only choose one i just let's get natives on on this list.

1:53:06I apologize to Jordan Addison. I believe in you. A little bit of a can you trust this guy factor to him, but a hell of a player. Hell of a player. The Vikings have a weird shape. Every player seems like they have a weirdly shaped chip on their shoulder this year. That's why I'm betting on them. I'm betting on it all works out. I think KOC's ticked off. I think Kyler's ticked off. I think Justin Jefferson's ticked off. I even think Jawan Jennings is ticked off how the 49ers run ended. So I don't know. I I'm that's that's a very much a like uh narrative scouting I'm that's why I'm kind of bullish on the Vikings so I like that I like Jordan Addison I he's I had him as receiver one in that class I had him and Jason I had kind of the same grade um I just didn't know what to do with both of them I was like I really like you guys but I wouldn't take you top 20 and they've both been good players Jacoby Myers um also just I feel bad still not getting taken was right on the borderline uh teams that could have a chip on their shoulder didn't get drafted any receivers here Dolphins I mean, Dolphins fans know.

1:54:06I'm sorry. It wasn't going to happen. The Browns, no one was particularly close. Carnell Tate, you mentioned with the Titans, but, you know, they got Wandale. They don't have a top 32 receiver right now. Neither does the Raiders, but they have Brock Bowers. And then, yeah, Rasheed Rice did not make it. So the Chiefs and Patrick Mahomes, I think those were the only teams that didn't have anyone taken. And Marvin Harrison Jr., prove us wrong. Rasheed Rice didn't have this last month. I would, you know, that's just hard for me to plop out of my brain. But I've always been higher on Rasheed Rice than I think a lot of people are.

1:54:40This is just on-field stuff only because I do think he's one of the best yak guys in the league and has shown a little bit more, but it's just consistency and whether you trust him, yada, yada, yada. But I think he is truly, I think he's a top 20 talent, if I'm being honest. But it's just consistent. I know every time I talk about Rice, I know Matt Harmon's always like, I can tell he's being nice the entire time I'm being I'm talking about him but yeah and then the Raiders what about what about my guy Trey Tucker you know I mean yeah that would be a stretch uh 20 mile an hour Denzel Boston for the Browns someday supposedly having a good supposedly having a good spring yeah um all right we did it you know Nate Tice does not have a chip on his shoulder he is feeling the love because I feel like everyone's asking him to be to be their guest barnwell you'll you'll you know hear him with mina last week uh we got him here he's taking a break but he is cranking out great shows at football 301 everyone check out nate tice and then in this feed coming up this week i'm uh i'm taking off a little bit i'm gonna go see the in-laws and uh we're gonna have patrick claibon and nick shook uh helping me out but we have some great content this week.

1:55:53We have some fun stuff over 4th of July. We've got our quarterback show, which I'll be a part of, so I'm not going anywhere too far. We are at the summer. Thank you, Nate Tice, and thank you all for listening. Let's get out of here. I've been waiting for that music, Eric. Got to go catch a bird. That was fun. Ranking all the wide receivers. NFL Daily 32. Two, like I said, we will have quarterbacks coming up later in the summer. But next time you'll be hearing from Patrick Claiborne. We'll see you then.

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