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24:02You choose where to start, wherever you want to start, bud.

24:05Nick Shook:Well, you know what? We're going to start in Pittsburgh because Latrobe, Pennsylvania. Latrobe, for those who are not familiar, but those who are locals say Latrobe. Really? St. Vincent College, yes. Didn't know that. I'm definitely not local. The more you know. St. Vincent College has long been home to the Steelers, and Aaron Rodgers was not expecting it to be as hot as it is, but he is settling in with the Steelers. He also, this is just like, not to start with a quote, but I'm starting with a quote. He reacted to Terry Bradshaw telling him to go chew on some bark in California by saying, I'd love to get to know Terry on a deeper level if he's open to it.

24:40Nick Shook:Maybe we can go chew some bark or whatever the hell he's talking about, which I thought was funny. But on the field, Broderick Jones has got a lower body injury. It's day-to-day. Kind of worrisome for a left tackle, but it's still very early in camp. And back to Rodgers, the Steelers secondary. They are challenging him. Jalen Ramsey, new acquisition, recent acquisition. He gets a pick over the guy who was involved in that trade, his former teammate in Miami, Jonu Smith. He's been making plays there. So the vibe that I'm getting from this Steelers camp so far is that all of these moves that they made in the offseason seem to be coming together.

25:14Nick Shook:And more than anything, that defense is looking really good in the secondary and they're causing some issues for Rodgers and the other quarterbacks. So this is a defense that didn't perform up to their standard last year or in recent years. I would be really interested this season to see if they bounce back and that becomes the backbone of them, especially with what they did offensively. Yeah, it's always a catch 22. If a defense is dominating, are you exciting that they look good or does the offense just look bad? Also, defense tends to be ahead this time of training camp. Also, a caveat for everything here.

25:46This last week, other than the Lions and the Chargers, was the ramp-up period. So it's kind of juiced up OTA minicamp, not quote-unquote real football practices. Everyone's putting the pads on on Monday around the league. And so we don't want to draw huge conclusions. It's just fun to get some of the nuggets. And you can with where players are playing. And for instance, Roman Wilson has consistently been their wide receiver too. When they have two receivers on the field, Roman Wilson is the two next to DK. So that's something that you can take a big takeaway from that. I'm not shocked, but also that's like, okay, that confirmed maybe what we thought Calvin Austin has kind of been the slot.

26:25You mentioned, you know, Rogers and Ramsey. It sounds like two out of three of Rogers' days were pretty rough. And that Ramsey, for the most part, is like in the nickel when it's, you know, in the slot when they're playing nickel defense. and then when you only have four defensive backs on the field, which doesn't happen that often in 2025 anyways, but he's playing a little safety. So, you know, they're going to make sure they find a way to keep him on the field, and that's a change for him in terms of what he's done throughout his career. Let's get to your brownies. Come on. Come on. All right.

26:56Nick Shook:Well, we all know what they're talking about in Berea, which is the quarterback situation. There is some news that has become apparent. Kenny Pickett, dealing with a hamstring injury, is expected to miss multiple practices. That was according to Mary Kay Cavett of Cleveland.com. Re-evaluation set for sometime next week. Anytime you hear anybody suffering a hamstring issue in camp, you get a little concerned because those injuries can pop back up later. They have to be treated with extra caution because of the likelihood that they can be aggravated, which by the way, aggravated, not re-aggravated.

27:28Nick Shook:So what I think this does is actually makes this quarterback competition even more interesting because the distribution of reps has been the talk of the town through the first four days or so of camp. how are they splitting them and mostly it's been picket getting the most dylan gabriel right behind him or even with him shadora slightly behind them and then flacco in last place which makes sense but if you look at it with picket on the sideline now it becomes a two rookie competition because you know what you have in joe flacco so i think that's going to be really intriguing this week especially as they put the pads on who is going to be better who's going to be worse uh opposite you know you just talked about when an offense is struggling is it because the defense is good or because the offense is just bad or needs to get there like you said defense is usually ahead the browns defense is very much ahead of the browns offense so far which is to be expected with this sort of quarterback competition that's going on right now andrew barry said uh that he could see a scenario in which they keep all four which is interesting because you're sacrificing a roster spot somewhere else in order to keep all four again it's early though so we'll see uh and you know what because i have to give a shout out to my kent state golden flashes shador sanders threw a touchdown pass to a former Golden Flash, Luke Flore, who's in camp with the Browns, and that just makes me happy.

28:39I mean, does he have a chance to make the team? No. Practice squad? No. No. Okay.

28:43Nick Shook:No. Probably not. Yeah, Shadur's been basically with a third team until Saturday, and then reportedly had a few good throws. Supposedly, the offense has just gotten overwhelmed. So I reached out to our friend, Andrew Siciliano, who's there every day. and he's the Browns radio voice and he's there covering training camp and and yeah he said the same thing defense has been ahead the defensive line has has a chance to be really good like Mason Graham the top 10 pick has showed up there and he's ready to prove me wrong who doubted his pick and has had a nice week but I think it did get a little lost in the shuffle we might have mentioned it briefly but Jordan Hicks retired which you don't think is a huge deal he's kind of a journeyman, but he started most of their season last year.

29:30And then if you think about the difference, they lost Jeremiah Owusu-Koromoa, you know, this season because of injury. And then Jordan Hicks retires. That was supposed to be your two starting inside linebackers. So now you lose them both. And maybe Carson Sueshen, who is like the rookie second round pick, top of the second round, like who hasn't played that much, is like, has the green dot on offense. So, you know, that could be a lot on him. Jerome Ford hasn't been out there. Andrew mentioned as well, but said Dylan Sampson, the rookies, looked pretty good. But overall, the vibe—I buy Andrew Barry, by the way, that you could keep four quarterbacks.

30:07Let's not be too precious about a roster spot for the Browns. If they want to keep Pickett and Flacco, that's fine. I think it's obvious they're going to keep the two rookies. They're not going to try to clear them through waivers. That's my personal opinion.

30:20Nick Shook:Yeah, I would agree. But I think the green dot thing is what actually attracted my attention there. They did bring in Jerome Baker in the offseason. and he's a local kid so i could see that being a possibility for them but yeah it's it's kind of weird with this group now i want to say i was on the mason graham train from the beginning so if he does ball out and again this is no pads like we can't really effectively judge a lot of the interior play right now without pads once those come on if he starts to make a difference i'm gonna be victory lap in that well some of the dumbest victory laps ever are from people like myself or whoever, and I did learn this, don't take any victory laps in August.

30:56None of it. You just can't. The games haven't actually started. I don't know. I don't know. My running shoes are on.

31:02Nick Shook:I don't know. Even Josh Simmons, which it seems like it's going great. It's like, yeah, but what if he gets out there when it actually matters and he stinks? Who knows? All right, let's get to the Ravens. Okay. All right, Ravens. Not actually a lot of buzz out of that camp right now, but Jair Alexander went on record earlier this week when asked about how he's adjusted to being in Baltimore over the last month or so since he signed with the Ravens. he said he is in heaven he loves it like literally said i'm in heaven um the culture there is fitting him he is excited to play a key part in a defense that he thinks will be an important part of this team this team i mean they're loaded on both sides of the ball so thinking that you know the defense got paced the offense that was incredibly productive last year is kind of crazy but on paper they looked really good um they are they were off today sunday but the tez walker hype train starting to build and we we heard this from them earlier i think in otas that they felt like he was going to make a big stride in year two and he's made some nice plays he caught a 30 yard pass over the middle from lamar jackson on saturday and that was one of at least six catches on saturday so he's making the most of his uh opportunities in his second training camp and finally greg we talked about a kicker competition kind of you know tongue in cheek last time tyler loop is on fire 23 of 23 so far he owns that job i love that you're hitting me with all these items I have had no idea about.

32:22That job's over. Loops locked it down. I mean, you draft a kicker to replace Justin Tucker. He's going to have to have a terrible training camp to not get that job, but it sounds like it's the opposite. Maybe he'll be the next Justin Tucker. You mentioned Jair. I actually had flagged a different quote. He was supposedly playing really well, making some good pass breakups on his first day, and he thought Lamar was trying him a little bit.

32:49Nick Shook:Oh, Lamar, yeah. Yeah, he threw a back shoulder. You know, he tried to throw a back shoulder on me with D-hop, so, you know, I had to give him a little jazz about that. You know, I said, come on, man. I know it's my first day, but, man, you know, it's still me. You know what I mean? It's still me. But, you know, it's always fun, man. We can joke like that. Man, they are deeper because there was a quote, and I know it's July, but Kyle Hamilton saying he thinks Nate Wiggins, who supposedly had a really great first week, He could be one of the best cornerbacks in the league that he's had his hands all over footballs in practice.

33:22So, man, that one, two, three, if Jair Alexander can stay healthy at cornerback is really good. And if Tez Walker, if they're just a little deeper, even at wide receiver, DeAndre Hopkins, I don't know how much to fall for, but making a lot of sideline type of catches, can he have a role as a third, fourth receiver type of guy? It's a really fascinating team. I'm not saying this is their last chance because it's the Ravens. They're always successful. But they do have a ton of free agents this season. So there will be a lot of turnover after this year. They have Kyle Vannoy, Mark Andrews, Isaiah Likely, Tyler Linderbaum, Travis Jones, and Odafe Owe.

33:59Those were the ones quickly I came up with who are free agents with just a ton of starters. So it's go time for the Ravens, even though so many of their great players are young. Let's get to the Bengals to wrap up the AFC North.

34:13Nick Shook:All right, Cincinnati. What do we want to know about Cincinnati? Well, Shamar Stewart's finally signed. The great, I don't know, Skyline Chili Nightmare is over. They got their first round pick in the building, which is great. And he didn't really get much out of it, like you said earlier. So that's handled. That's done with. He spoke very loftily about his goals and everything, that he wants to threaten Aldon Smith's rookie record of sacks and everything else. And he was the last guy to really do it. He's got to get his feet underneath him, but he did get on the practice field, which is good.

34:43Nick Shook:um lucas patrick the guard is wearing a sleeve on his calf after exiting practice on friday he did not practice on sunday so a little bit of concern because we know that the instability in the offensive line has been a running issue for the bangles over the last few years and we'll go back to kickers greg because i know you love kickers evan mcpherson perfect 18 for 18 the guy who had an incredible rookie season hit some bumps in the road recently starting off on the right foot pun and unintended in 2025. Sneaky big story for them. I saw that featured a little bit. I think that was the athletic that, yeah, like he was one of the best kickers in the league his first couple of seasons and really had a downturn and now has changed his motion, hasn't missed a kick.

35:24That would be big for them. And yeah, maybe it's because Lucas Patrick has been out partly, but I think they've just been giving Dylan Fairchild, who's a rookie guard, all the snaps with the starters. Jermaine Burton, we'll see. but so far everything has been really positive. Second year player, very talented, who just had a disastrous rookie season. They wanted him to have a big role, but he's very talented. And so he's started to make some consistent noise. We'll see if that keeps up. And I heard Shamar Stewart talking about his agent. Like that's who I want with me in the foxhole, like guys who will fight for me.

36:00But in the end, this whole holdout, it just seems stupid from both ends. All he got out of it was they gave him more money out of his signing bonus now instead of it being delayed until December. He didn't really get anything in particular out of it. So it just seems the whole thing seems stupid.

36:19Nick Shook:I think he said both sides agreed that he needed to be on the field. Like, let's end this madness. Yeah, it was almost like the Bengals gave him something just very small just to get him back without actually breaking their principles. So they more or less got their way before we get to the AFC East. Just just some quick hitters from the NFC that I just if you're listening to this show, the ideas we want you updated on everything. It really hasn't been like a crazy huge news week, I feel like, around the NFL. And that's good because a lot of times huge news at this time of year are injuries. Unfortunately, there were a few.

36:55Cardinals lost the starting cornerback, Starling Thomas, not a household name, but it's literally the second starting cornerback they've lost for the season, which is terrible luck. Sean Murphy Bunting is their nickelback. Starling Thomas was supposed to be outside. He is out with a torn ACL for the season. Terry McLaurin returned to training camp or showed up to training camp on Sunday, but he's not practicing. They're saying he's out with an ankle injury, so the holdout is out, but the hold in is in. Matthew Stafford is going to be out another week. disappointed to hear that because we were hoping to maybe see him at Rams practice on Monday, but more time for Jimmy G.

37:34Starting to get a little concerned that a 37-year-old can't practice for a week and a half with a back injury and that the hope is that he's ready for a week on. That's a little concerning. Eli Apple is back in the league and a couple contracts for veterans. Jake Ferguson got a big one. Josh Metellus in Minnesota. That is your NFC update. I don't know if anything strikes you as particularly interesting there well i i liked how the cardinals looked going into this camp in terms of depth that depth is going to be tested and it's going to be young

38:04Nick Shook:guys very quickly like the pick of will johnson will johnson would have been a first round pick out of michigan if he hadn't gotten hurt last year and i love that selection when they made it um he's going to be asked to do a lot i think very quickly for them and so it's going to be an early test of him as well and they have other young guys in that group including will johnson's uh collegiate rival ohio state's denzel burke um a guy who flashed as a freshman never really got any better we'll see um but suddenly the younger guys that you thought well maybe they'll compete for a roster spot and play special teams they're gonna be asked to do a little bit more now i should have spelled out eli apple signed with the 49ers so a depth piece there and it's interesting they signed jake ferguson the cowboys coming off a bad season and with micah parsons contract just hanging in the wind that's that's getting uglier by the day by the way they just that's not they just do things differently but you know what i actually think they're buying low on jake Ferguson that it's going to be a team-friendly deal in the end, and they believe in him as a player despite a down season.

39:01So ultimately, I think that was a smart move for them. And Metellus, the safety for the Vikings, just one of the most unique players in the league. It's cool to see him get rewarded. All right, the AFC East, Joey Bosa back at practice. And I thought it was interesting. They kept Greg Rousseau on his normal side. He had been moving around depending on who had been coming in for them over the last few years, like Von Miller. He's got his side. Bosa's got to kind of work around him. Bosa can play either side. But he is back. He's practicing. So that is good early news for the Bills. They have been starting Tredavious White so far over Maxwell Hairston, their first-round pick.

39:40So that's a battle that I will be watching to see if Hairston takes over. And unfortunately, Hairston was involved in a play on Sunday, Shook, where it looked like he might have been a little overaggressive. and Tyrell Shavers, who had a real good chance, I think, to make this team, appeared to have a bad injury, an ankle injury after Hairston kind of took him out by the ankle in a contested play. And they've had a few injuries at that position at the back end of the wide receiver roster. Nothing to be too panicked about, but Elijah Moore, Curtis Samuel, and Tyrell Shavers all injured. Shavers might be the only one that's really serious, but just some of the Bills' depth.

40:21not really their top three guys though. So, you know, it's not something that's going to panic those fans, but you, man, you hate to see obviously an injury like that to anyone, especially like a young player trying to like start his career.

40:33Nick Shook:Yeah. I agree with that, but really I'm more concerned about Curtis Samuel even if it's not serious just because I think he cracks that top three in some situations. And I mean, unless you have more confidence in Joshua Palmer, which, you know, that's up to you. The money says he's going to play. The money says Josh Palmer is going to, he's gonna be the two alongside kian cole i don't know if i buy that but all right we'll take it for what it's worth uh i think that samuel might bring a little bit more to the table so you hope that those guys get back but nothing that's really overly concerning across the board here i do like the idea of tradavious white coming back and making a difference but it is camp it's still early and you know we mentioned this about the line i thought about this with the ravens too but like nate wiggins and his you know slight frame and everything else when the pads come on at defensive it back too that really tells you where guys stand because the physicality gets involved Tredavious White is not the youngest guy anymore does he still have the speed and agility to keep up with guys because that was an issue in recent years so it's gonna be a test of his fair and Maxwell Hairston is he a guy that can tackle in the open field that that's a smaller cornerback we we will see a couple other little bits items there I noticed Joe Basalia of the Athletics said there really is a quarterback two battle there and he thought Mike White's looked better than Mitch Trubisky.

41:47So could be someone that plays this year for the Bills. Bills fans hope that will only happen in week 18 because they've like clinched a buy or something like that. Dawson Knox, by the way, who was injured to start camp there tight end was, was activated. The good news out of Jets camp. And I could not find a ton of Jets news, which is to, to the credit of Aaron Donald. I mean, Aaron Glenn, rather that he's kind of having a no drama news free camp for the most part, But Justin Fields, already back to seven-on-sevens in positional drills. That toe injury really proved to be nothing. And it supposedly looked pretty good in camp early.

42:25So, like, I'm not worried about just, like, the fact that Justin Fields is already back on the field. When I said that that injury, like, it started making me wonder if the Jets' vibes are just going to overtake Aaron Glenn. The fact that Fields immediately was back on the field, it's maybe a flip of it. It's like, no, these aren't the same old Jets.

42:42Nick Shook:Yeah, I feel like I've bought, But for as much stock as you've bought in the Raiders this offseason, I've bought just as much with the Jets because they have an adult in the room in Aaron Glenn. Finally, this feels like a professional organization, at least from the outside. At this point in the year, it's still early. I'm not buying it that much yet, but it just feels like they are changing their culture and the vibe around them. And yeah, a dislocated toe and coming back there, you know, very quickly for Justin Fields isn't necessarily an example of it. But I'm telling you, man, this is a team that people need to keep an eye on.

43:13Nick Shook:Not necessarily because they're absolutely loaded or that they should have Super Bowl aspirations, but I do think they're going to be better than most people think, and it starts with Aaron Glenn, and these are the examples of why. Totally agree with you. They're making Brees Hall earn that running back spot. I think Braylon Allen is going to be featured, and Brees Hall knows he's not getting a contract. That was interesting. Connor Hughes, who covers them for SNY, he said something that he thought Will McDonald is probably having the best summer of anyone on defense, so that would be really big for them if they can get a more consistent pass rush out of Will McDonald, who I know has put up sack totals, but as an every down consistent difference maker, maybe hasn't been that dude.

43:49They're looking for receivers to step up. It sounds like early Malachi Corley, who was a pretty high pick last year, has not been that guy, so that's someone to watch. And then just because I was unaware of this fact before Sunday, there are two gentlemen by the name of Harrison Mevis and Caden Davis who are competing to be the Jets kicker this year. Harrison Mevis and Caden Davis. So just the more you know. You know what I mean?

44:17Nick Shook:I mean, honestly, I didn't know either of those guys existed. Right. Me neither. And sometimes when you have a kicker battle like that, they're also battling against whoever gets cut as a veteran. For instance, like a Nick Folk. I can remember a couple years ago when the Patriots kind of immediately got snapped up and took over a job. So those guys could always take your job. but I'm team Mavis. I'm team Mavis. Okay, all right. And I'm sure it's just because you like his last name better. I don't know. But it's also like the long snapper battle that's going on in Cincinnati right now. Two guys by the name of Cal Adamitis and Will Wagner.

44:50Nick Shook:There you go. Wow. You went deep. Let's go to the Patriots. Biggest story for them this week to me is that Stefan Diggs is just fully out there taking every snap. Kind of shocking. Like, not just that he's not on PUP, but that he's taking every team rep and everything. And, you know, I follow all the Patriots beat reporters. It's a really good beat crew. Taylor Kyles is one of the best doing it right now. And to me, he says the wide receiver battle, which seems so wide open, doesn't seem that controversial. Like, unless it changes, he really sees the exposition as Kayshaun Booty right now is the starter.

45:31And Kyle Williams is behind him. But that one's kind of up for grabs. The Z position is kind of clearly Stefan Diggs and Kendrick Bourne, who has a history with Josh McDaniels and I think is going to make this team, is behind him. And then in the slot, it's Demario Douglas, and it's this undrafted kid, Efton Chisholm. And who knows if Jalen Polk makes this team. Even though he was a second-round pick a year ago, my guess is he gets traded for a late-round pick swap. He has not even been out on the field practicing because he hasn't been healthy, so he has to get into that mix. Maybe they try to sneak that kid Chisholm through waivers or whatever it is, but that's the Patriots wide receiver update.

46:10And at this point, I'd be surprised if DeMario Douglas and Stefan Diggs are not their top two receivers, at least to start the season. Those are the guys they're going to be counting on and hoping the best for. It's not the best group.

46:22Nick Shook:Yeah, I believe Taylor Kyles is an NFL media alum as well, so shout out to Taylor. But I have to point out the fact that a guy who is out right now, Is there room for him on this roster if it shakes out the way you just described it, which is the barefoot wonder himself, Matt Collins? Forgot about Matt Collins somewhat. Yes, because they gave him like$3.5 million guaranteed, and they're just going to have to find a spot. And so he's also been a good special teamer. He's coming off a good year. You can keep six receivers. Plenty of teams do. He certainly, you know, seven is stretching it. it might be a situation if everyone's healthy where both poke and a guy like Kendrick Bourne could go in like a very low level trade though at the end of at the end of camp if everyone use one to me in case on booty like they like his lot like it's funny because they got these guys who are all about the same level from that list they actually might have like the most interesting wide receiver cuts of any team in the league and yet they don't have but it's because like they don't really have a good wide receiver group but they are very deep so that was a smart there's potential there this is nothing to do with your patriots homerism it's the fact that there's potential there and it's more than a lot of teams can say in in terms of depth yes but i would still put them bottom five uh overall one thing i noticed watching you know the camp reports there it's like they're incredibly thin at the tackle position their seventh round pick michael bryant right now is like their swing tackle.

47:53This other guy, Demantre Jacobs, who was a disaster that was like a late pickup for them is the other guy competing there. I mean, that's that's rough. If Morgan Moses gets hurt, who's 34 years old, like man, that is rough. They're using last year's pretty high pick, Caden Wallace at guard. Supposedly, the offensive line has been bad at camp so far. The one positive is their third round pick, Jared Wilson has been progressing pretty quickly, playing a lot with the starters at center. at guard competing with Cole Strange, but also competing at center with Garrett Bradbury. And so their rookie class might be fun.

48:29A lot of Travion Henderson is wide open all the time, and Josh McDaniels cooking up special running back wheel routes down the field. So, you know, good news for you, because I know you like Jared Wilson. I love Jared Wilson. I know you like Travion too.

48:42Nick Shook:Love Jared Wilson, and they threw a lot of resources at the offensive line. To hear that they're looking thin right now is concerning. But, hey, look, you got to nail a couple of blue-chip guys. I think Jared Wilson is going to prove to be one of those guys. Well, you got to be right about Will Campbell. But when I say thin, yeah. On paper, after the top two at tackle specifically, it's really thin. They're a little deeper at guard. And then I mentioned it before, but Christian Barmore, who has all-pro potential and was sidelined by those blood clots last year, by all accounts has showed up and has been fantastic at camp.

49:16So that would be huge for them. Let's finish the AFC East with the Dolphins. Since we last talked, we confirmed for sure Artie Burns has a torn ACL. He was a depth cornerback piece. Cater Kohu left practice with a leg injury. He's supposed to be their nickelback. It's unsure how serious that is. And then they signed two guys we know, one of whom I think was in my top 101, Jack Jones and Mike Hilton both signed contracts with the Miami Dolphins. I think I slid Hilton into the very end of my top 101, but Jack Jones apparently went out there like first day and he was like their first team cornerback and is making plays.

49:56That's the kind of situation they are. They're signing guys off the street and he is probably their best. He might be their best cornerback and he was available. Man, that's weird.

50:05Nick Shook:Unless you're buying into the Storm Duck hype, which started last preseason. Yeah, this is a team that can, I mean, I understand why they traded Jalen Ramsey. We knew that was basically inevitable, but for a team that just traded Jalen Ramsey, they are outrageously thin at the position right now, which is very concerning when you add in the fact that Caterco, who left practice and they had injuries elsewhere with Artie Burns. So, you know, I just had to look it up right now. Mike Hilton, I feel like he's been in the league forever. 31. So it might be his last gasp at an NFL career, but I still, I've loved him over the course of his many different stops in the NFL.

50:39Nick Shook:So maybe he ends up contributing. Started to play a little more Madden lately. and Mike Hilton. I love a good slot cornerback. I mean, I love watching that in real life, but I love being the cornerback, the slot cornerback blitzing in Madden and Mike Hilton, one of the goats at that. One thing I noticed this last week was this whole Tyree Kill story. It's weird down there. Off-season long, Tyree Kill has been saying how he hasn't taken his career seriously enough and he hasn't been a leader. And there's been a lot of talk about the comments that he made at the end of last season in the locker room where he all but, you know, quit on the team and didn't really express any remorse about it afterwards in week 18.

51:25And Tua Tungabailoa was pretty real about it in front of the microphone earlier this week saying, you know, Tyreek's got some ground to make up that he needs to prove it that he's here and a leader. and he was on NFL Network inside training camp this weekend and they circled back for those comments.

51:45Nick Shook:But I don't feel it's me talking bad about my teammate. Kind of what you said, I'm just trying to hold him accountable because that's what we're trying to do with everybody on our team. And if this is what we say the standard is, then that's what the standard is and nobody's exempt from it. Spicy Tua, I like it. He's just being honest. And I think Tyreek Hill publicly has tried to take accountability. I do like seeing Tua Tungvala kind of in that salty leadership position. Oh, yeah. It's just been strange vibes. Strange vibes all around. Okay, so you know how I spoke about Aaron Glenn being the adult in the room with the Jets?

52:23Nick Shook:I feel like the Dolphins are the reverse Jets in that they had a lot of hype around them. Mike McDaniel's arrival and the explosive offense and everything else, and they took a significant step backward last year, obviously, to his injury. you know the latest concussion had something to do with it but Tyreek had you know basically his worst year in like five years since an injury riddled season in Kansas City now he's talking like this it feels like the wheels are starting to get loose or something about them spending so much time in the spotlight over the last couple of years all the hype the lack of ultimate success with this team and the frustration they lack an adult in the room right now at least energy wise outside right now and Tua's trying to be that guy and I respect that but I don't know if that's going to work yeah I I think it makes it clear that those comments from Tyreek Hill and how he acted at the end of last season like everyone noticed for Tua Tungvalu to publicly feel comfortable enough to be like yeah he's got to kind of prove it to us to me he's probably talking for the locker room now Tyreek Hill is is in a contract year essentially he's going to be motivated as hell to have one last great year he's a hall of famer someday like it wouldn't surprise me if he bounces back we will see i uh i listen to three yards per carry very good uh dolphins podcast they they made the comment that they thought these were the best backup quarterbacks of the mike mcdaniel era just in terms of how they looked on the field so a little quinn yours and zach wilson pop probably going to be zach wilson but apparently they're they're looking okay maybe they understand that system you never know who's going to understand that You know, that speaks to that speaks to the fact that they've watched a lot of Skylar Thompson practice.

54:05Nick Shook:Yes. And Mike White. And like, fair enough, though. Maybe I trust them on the left side. Patrick Paul and Jonah Savanea are their offensive linemen. Reportedly have looked pretty good so far. And then we'll wrap up the Dolphins with Minka Fitzpatrick. Got a new deal. But when it was first reported, it was a little misleading of like how much guaranteed money he got. They just pushed most of his salary into a bonus right now and then gave him a$2 million raise. So here is a guy, Minka Fitzpatrick, who basically wanted to get an immediate long-term deal out of the Dolphins, more guaranteed money because he's essentially up after this year or he's going to want it redone after this year.

54:46And they didn't do it. They stood their ground and they were like, you know what? We will give you$2 million out of the goodness of our heart. A lot of money. But we are not giving you the same kind of contract that Jalen Ramsey got a year ago when we didn't have to give it to him or Tyree Kill got a year ago when we didn't have to give him. So to me, actually, that's progress for the Dolphins. They did not get bullied into a contract from Drew Rosenhaus. And if he plays great this year, then give him the contract. And supposedly he has been awesome at camp. It wouldn't shock me if we get like a Renaissance Minka Fitzpatrick year out of him this year.

55:17But he'll do it without getting some huge raise.

55:19Nick Shook:And I don't feel like he ever really took much of a step back in Pittsburgh either. I just think it's hilarious. A little bit. A little bit. But I think it's hilarious when you look at his career arc, the place that he hated so much that he traded and he ends up back with, and he still can't get the deal from them right now. That's a fair point. But maybe it means that there are those adults in the room. Maybe not on the field, but in the front office. Yes, that you don't need to. All right, let's take one more break, and we will wrap up with the AFC Center. For adults with Crohn's disease or ulcerative colitis symptoms, every choice matters.

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59:52Back one more time. NFL Daily needed that second break because we just had to squeeze so much goodness into the first of our Sunday evening shows. Once the preseason starts, we'll start doing preseason takeaways for all the teams. But for now, we're going through all the camp reports. We will have the Hall of Fame game coming up on Thursday, not too far away. Let's get to the AFC South. No Hall of Fame game teams there.

1:00:21Nick Shook:No, but I will be at the Hall of Fame game. So keep an eye on that, NFL.com, for all your coverage. Shameless plug. All right, AFC South. Let's go to the team with the guy that everybody talks about so much that I can't wait for him to get on the field because frankly i'm a little bit tired of talking about it it's the jaguars it's travis hunter who has had the busiest syllabus week in the history of training camp the guy is going from offensive meeting to defensive meeting to figuring out if he's going to play defensive practice this day or offense in this practice the next day uh defensively he is building some steam he had three pass breakups on sunday when what was a defense defensive only practice for him but his uh his schedule is crazy and his rep totals are pretty crazy uh through four practices he's been on the field in 11 on 11 and 7 on 7 for 83 snaps and he spent the first two practices exclusively on offense with 36 snaps and he's played exclusively on defense over the last two 47 snaps according to espn's michael doraco so he's getting a lot of work he said the biggest challenge for him which is what he said earlier this week playbooks digesting the playbook which allows him to play fast i'm not worried about his stamina i don't think anybody there is but even liam cohen admitted it's kind of hard to figure out how to get all of this, you know, organized to make sure Travis is processing all this stuff and soaking it all in.

1:01:35Nick Shook:So unique training camp experience for him. But that is definitely the leading story in Jacksonville. And it's overshadowing pretty much everything else. The one thing I'll add. I'm fine with that. Overshadow away. If you're watching on YouTube, you'll see him with a breakup. Apparently there was a play earlier, too, that he almost dropped the potential pick six, but that he's breaking on the ball. I mean, man, when you watch him, he's so slender and it's like lower half compared to most NFL players. You do wonder, but he's made it work at a level that no one has ever made it work before. So there's no reason.

1:02:07Nick Shook:Yeah. And I'm excited to see how it turns out on the field because he's a hell of a player on both sides. But I think he's a better corner than receiver, but that's just my opinion. Other notes from Jacksonville. This is like best shape of my life stuff. But Josh Hines Allen is aiming for Michael Strahan's record. and he said, quote, I think all pass rushers should strive for that goal. Yes, you are correct, Josh. You are correct. And Jordan Lewis, veteran cornerback, turning heads. He's getting daily pass breakups in practice as well. That would be a nice little addition to their secondary if he could come through.

1:02:35Yeah, we've had John Shipley on the show a few times. He writes for Jaguars on SI. Check out his work. Check out his podcast. And he said that Jordan Lewis has probably been the most consistent guy on the team in terms of making plays the entire offseason and he transferred it. He's their number two cornerback, really, assuming Travis Hunter is not a cornerback. Tyson Campbell also is a guy. You know, he reminds me of some cornerbacks just pop up like every three years with an amazing year, and it's like one of those positions where you need everything to work out right, and he's really healthy, and this could be that year for him.

1:03:14The only other note I really had from the week was it seems like Tink Bigsby is getting most of the first team reps over Travis Etienne. Not that they're not going to move it around, but if you were from the outside just watching, you'd think like, oh, Bigsby's their one, Etienne is their two, and Basial and their rookie is their three. We'll see if that changes, but so far, that's definitely a nugget I think fantasy heads are curious about.

1:03:39Nick Shook:Fantasy heads and those who like to predict trades, because Etienne doesn't pop. Keep an eye on him, as teams need running backs elsewhere. Let's go to Houston next. first off they don't have a lot of guys out there there are a ton of guys on pup daniko autry tank del foley fatakasi jimmy ward damian pierce derrick barnett and kurt heinish are all on pup and then we had the news of joe mixon on nfi with a foot injury that's frustrating considering he had the ankle issues last year and that limited his opportunities to play but it also opens the door for nick chubb to maybe get a bit of redemption season if he has anything left in the tank.

1:04:12Nick Shook:I don't believe he does, but if Mixon's off the field, Pierce is on PUP. Suddenly it's Nick Chubb and Dario Gumbawale, which means they're going to get a lot of reps. So something to definitely keep an eye on. The rest of the offensive line is taking time to gel. This is an offensive line that was bad last year, but the pads are not on yet. So I would hold off on pressing the panic button there. That's going to be a big part for that offense going into the season. And to a very hot start in camp. Pick six, pass, break up, and a tackle for loss on Saturday. He seems to be making a lot of plays.

1:04:46Nick Shook:That would be good for a defense that we expect to be good this year. Yeah, I think it's Alshair and Toto as their linebackers right now. Christian Harris, weirdly one of my son's favorite players in the entire league, just has struggled to get healthy. He was one of my favorites coming out of Alabama, so I understand. Yeah, and the Joe Mixon news was one of the biggest injury news items since we last did a show that Ian Rappaport says he will be out the entire preseason. And the hope, according to Aaron Wilson in Houston, is to get him ready for week one. But it sounds uncertain. And considering it's the same ankle slash foot that bothered him last year and kept being a recurring issue, it's a big concern.

1:05:35We'll see about Nick Chubb. I'm hopeful, and yet I saw one practice report that just didn't look like the old Nick Chubb, at least not yet. And so we'll see. It'll be interesting. He'll probably play a lot in the preseason, Nick Chubb, kind of playing for his job, what kind of role he's going to have. I don't think they'll treat him like a veteran that doesn't have to get any preseason snaps. So he's someone that I'll be curious to watch because that is one thing you can tell in a preseason game is, like, who has juice or not. That's all. And I think you'll be able to tell that. And you mentioned the offensive line, by the way.

1:06:13Like, yeah, they're trying everything. So I wouldn't make any judgments there yet. They are still rotating and trying, like, three different people at every position. You don't want to do that too long, but it's the first week of training camp. That's what it's for.

1:06:25Nick Shook:And they also have two really good edge rushers that they're facing every day in Demi Hunter and Will Anderson. So got to take that into account as well. Tennessee, we know the news. about trailing Burks suffers a fractured collarbone, just the latest setback in a career that has just fallen way short of first round expectations. And it was a year, not that it's over, but it's a year in which he really needs to prove that he's worth considering keeping around. So it's a terrible over though. Right. I guess it's early enough in theory. You can come back from a collarbone and get like half a season at this point.

1:06:57Nick Shook:I usually, I think it's like an eight week recovery. So like there's still some room, but I mean, even a shortened season, It's just really limiting your opportunities in an offense that needs weapons, that needs weapons for Cam Ward, who is throwing some picks in practice, but he's also asking the defense what went wrong and why they were able to pick him up. Three of the four interceptions that he's thrown have been caught by linebacker Cody Barton, who said Cam has taken the time to talk with him to try to learn. So it's a good demonstration of a young guy trying to soak up as much as possible, as he knows the keys to the franchise are in his pocket.

1:07:30Nick Shook:Speaking of other injuries, LeJarius Sneed dealing with a new injury. It's not the quad that he dealt with last year. It's it's he had a cleanup of his knee and he's not playing right now. Lloyd Cushenberry dealing with the Achilles issue. Both of them start on PUP. And then the last note, another one kind of like the Jordan Hicks thing linebacker, Lorenzo Carter retiring. He told the team that was a surprise. So they're probably gonna have to find a way to replace him. Not great vibes out of Titans camp so far. Oh, how dare you? You're right. Some of the leftovers, like Lorenzo Carter is probably going to be their, you know, fourth edge rusher, third edge rusher.

1:08:04So it's disappointing for them. It happens. There was a couple other retirements around the league of just guys who, they just had enough. The game ain't in me no more. And I will push back with you on the bad vibes, if only because you have a number one overall pick. And then Daniel Jeremiah, our friend, and we'll have some news about Daniel Jeremiah and myself coming up soon. like behind the scenes news um he was there and he said you know this they're gonna say this but there is excitement about the rookie class in terms of the receivers so that's chamere dk uh erica a humanor and gunner helm that the tight end um that you know they feel good about them so far jeffrey simmons is is back to being fully healthy he's dominating and then ward like man he's had some eye-popping plays so at least you're seeing like the really exciting plays and he's in at 5.30 a.m.

1:09:02every day type of treatment, according to DJ, and that he has really won over the entire organization. That means something to me. It seems like he's a mature rookie. Let's actually listen to one of his teammates, Chig Okonkwo, the talented tight end, talk about Ward.

1:09:20Nick Shook:Does he have kind of the star power already? Hey, he's the number one draft pick, man. He's shown why he is. So, yeah, I mean, you see wherever he's walking around, every single person is trying to call him. So he definitely has that star power. He got that aura, as the kids would say. Okay. Wanted to use this in part, Shook, because aura is not a word, you know, I would feel comfortable using out loud. It's not my place. But I do think there is a life cycle of trendy words. Ooh. And the life cycle all but ends in a meaningful or cool way. The second that every corporation is using it nonstop in a tweet and aura has reached that point.

1:10:08So I, I feel bad for the kids, but it's too late. You have to move on.

1:10:13Nick Shook:Yeah. You got, you guys got to find something new and they'll find something new. They always do. It reminds me of the term swag, which was cool when I was in high school. And by the time I was out of college, it was being used to describe free gifts, swag bags, and that's when we knew it was over as well. I mean, it's hung on a little bit. You just got to change it up a little bit. Someone's swaggy now. You got swaggy pee. Nope, nope. I guess we can get away with that one. Let's wrap up with the Colts. All right. Neither Daniel Jones or Anthony Richardson has separated themselves so far. I thought you were going to say neither one of them have aura.

1:10:48See, that would have...

1:10:49Nick Shook:Daniel Jones definitely does not have aura. Anthony Richardson, I would say, does, actually. but the gano jones gano jones dresses like he's still in yeah all right i don't want to go there negative the khakis negative confidence yes of course um alec pierce knows that he's gonna have to earn his next contract this season he doesn't expect to get one before this season starts so uh interesting thing to keep an eye on there he's been a big play guy who has had his moments beneath the the deep shot but hasn't been super consistent and they also have had you know all these issues at quarterback so i don't hold that against him uh offseason additions in the secondary big thing because they had to fire gus bradley last year because their defense was not good in the back end charverius ward is all over guys in camp so channeling uh his golden days from uh you know the time when he was the 49ers and the chiefs before that carrying it over to indianapolis cam bynum is also uh becoming a bit of a playmaker against both of these quarterbacks which maybe is contributing to the fact that neither have separated themselves and again like i said before They haven't put the pads on yet, but the offensive line has been sloppy when it comes to false starts.

1:11:53Nick Shook:Multiple false starts being committed in practice to the point that Shane Steichen reportedly had to light up the unit, stop practice, and get in their face. Because, again, pads or not, you shouldn't be committing false starts. It's one of the simplest things. Know the count. Know the snap count. Take a laugh if you don't know it. So they got things to clean up, but Tyler Warren, a tight end that they invested heavily in in this draft this year, has made some nice grabs. He's a guy with very strong hands who can catch passes away from his body, maybe not in the same mold as Mason Taylor, but a guy that a lot of people obviously watched coming out of Penn State where he drove their offense all the way to the college football playoff.

1:12:26Nick Shook:He's making some plays there. Yeah, I think it was a little underrated. When the Vikings signed the Colts' interior line, everyone said, well, what a great move that was. Ryan Kelly, Will Fries goes from Indianapolis to Minnesota. That could be an issue in terms of how the Colts replace that. We will see. Reportedly, Richardson has been throwing Anthony Richardson to Tyler Warren quite a bit. They've had a nice connection, whereas Daniel Jones has not. So that's a good move by Richardson. But I don't know what Shane Steichen's doing there. He's yelling at the team. He's also getting intercepted.

1:12:58Did you see that one?

1:13:00Nick Shook:Oh, God, no. I don't know why or how, but on some sort of drill, Steichen actually stepped in as the quarterback. And I think it was Ward. Someone intercepted him. It was not a good rep by Steichen. But that seems like it's kind of typical. I know it's only one day, and supposedly Richardson has had three pretty rough days and one good one, and Daniel Jones has been consistently not great. But on 11 and 11s, James Boyd of the Athletic were keeping track on Saturday. The two of them combined to go 9 for 28. yeah and that that's about what i expected from this competition no i did not nine for 28 is insane in july these drills and i they could be working on other things but this is actually where the stats kind of do help you a little bit because if it's that bad like offense just isn't getting done isn't getting played it reminds me so much of the craziest camp practice i've ever been to I was doing a story for about Frank Gore in 2017 and Andrew Luck was supposedly coming back from injury but didn't and he was still hurt at that point and it was Scott Tolzien PJ Walker and someone who wasn't great who I'm forgetting about and they couldn't complete a practice they couldn't complete a pass the whole practice like they just couldn't do it that was the year eventually they just got Jacoby Brissett in there and then and then you like he was the adult in the room but like it was so dispiriting to be there for all the offensive players because you like you couldn't do anything nine for 28 is crazy 80 Mitchell supposedly has had a ton of drops which is not what you want to hear I don't know where he even plays this year he's their fourth guy because Pierce to me is is underrated he's a good he's a good player but you want to see AD Mitchell improve but bad vibes some of the worst vibes in the NFL I feel like are with the Indianapolis Colts right now on the offensive side I have faith in their defense but on the offensive side we don't want to end this on bad vibes we got we got your power back shook it's all it's all looking better look and I got blue lights for those of you watching on YouTube again like and subscribe on YouTube I got blue lights back here the aura is really cooking oh you brought it all around uh thank you Shook appreciate you and uh we will be back as I mentioned early in the show on Monday.

1:15:24It's going to go up overnight Monday. We will be at Rams training camp. We will get you all the news from around the league, but we will also talk to some players, some people in front office kind of there with the Rams. So I'm looking forward to that. All the NFC notes will be coming on Tuesday's show. And yeah, when the pads are coming on on Monday, like that is the ultimate football is back.

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