In short
NFL Daily hosts Chris Wessling, Jordan Rodrigue, and Patrick Claibon recap the AFC teams’ 2026 drafts and what the picks mean for each roster’s depth charts and needs. They frame the discussion around how teams addressed (or didn’t) key positions after the draft, including compensatory-pick implications and post-draft questions.
Guests/hosts
Chris Wessling (host), Jordan Rodrigue (host), Patrick Claibon (host; recovering from knee surgery).
Key claims and notable examples
- Ravens: Drafted an interior OL (Vega) in Round 1 to fix a prior neglect; added receiver depth (Jacoby Lane, USC) and edge (Zion Young). Question: can Mike Green + Young compensate for not landing Crosby? Also concerns: center and tight end depth after Mark Andrews.
- Bengals: Traded up for Dexter Lawrence; added Cassius Howell and other defensive pieces. Question: is defense improved enough, especially inside linebacker/safety/nickel?
- Browns: Exciting offense haul (Casey Concepcion, Denzel Boston, Harold Fannin). Question: did they do enough at quarterback to change the franchise trajectory?
- Steelers: Receiver help (Jeremy Bernard) plus offensive line (Hatcher). Notable: Aaron Rodgers right-of-first-refusal tender suggests possible offseason uncertainty; question: how much does Mike McCarthy improve an offense constrained at the line of scrimmage?
- Broncos: Mostly continuity; added Jalen Waddle and defensive/OL depth. Question: is “running it back” safe, given prior QB issues?
- Chiefs: Traded up for corner Mansoor Delane; added defensive pass rush (R. Mason Thomas, Peter Woods). Question: did they do enough at receiver?
- Chargers: Offensive line volume (Jake Slaughter, etc.) plus Hakeem Mesidor. Question: does the Mesidor pick reflect a real edge need after Cleo Mack’s year-to-year status?
- Raiders: Loaded secondary and edge; question: is Fernando Mendoza set up for success?
- AFC South: Texans defense-focused (Caden McDonald); Colts high-risk defensive build (C.J. Allen, A.J. Halsey) with dime-season questions; Jaguars intangibles-heavy approach; Titans success hinges on offense consistency (Cam Ward + Arnold Tate).
Written by AI. May contain mistakes. Listen to the episode to check what was said.
Chapters
Tap a time to open that second in VOOverview of AFC Teams Drafts
0:57 to 2:00
Discussion about the AFC's draft performance and team strategies.
“And it's complicated because we're hitting every single team in the AFC and recapping their draft and what it all means.”
Baltimore Ravens Draft Recap
2:00 to 5:30
An in-depth analysis of the Ravens' draft decisions and their implications.
“We're going to put three minutes on the clock for each and every team.”
Cincinnati Bengals Draft Review
5:30 to 7:50
Detailed look at the Bengals' draft strategy and player acquisitions.
“And you think about their line now with Miles Murphy, might not pick up the fifth-year option with him.”
Cleveland Browns Draft Analysis
7:50 to 9:50
Analysis of the Browns' draft choices and their potential impact.
“And it's a, you know, in terms of what he does, a deviation away from anybody else in the league.”
Pittsburgh Steelers Draft Insights
9:50 to 12:20
Exploring the Steelers' draft picks and the team's future outlook.
“Have they done enough inclusive to, we are not really sure yet at quarterback to potentially alter the course of this franchise right now?”
Aaron Rodgers Situation with the Steelers
14:00 to 15:00
Discussion about the Steelers' handling of Aaron Rodgers and its implications.
“Let's put a pit in Rodgers for a second.”
Broncos' Draft Analysis
15:00 to 17:40
Analyzing the Denver Broncos' draft choices and their impact on the team.
“They also picked up Drew Aller out of Penn State.”
Chiefs' Defensive Focus
17:40 to 19:16
Exploring the Kansas City Chiefs' draft strategy and defensive needs.
“Who's the position that you want to change?”
Chargers' Draft Moves
19:16 to 22:40
Reviewing the Los Angeles Chargers' draft strategy and offensive line improvements.
“The Chiefs went really defense-focused, which I like.”
Raiders' Roster and Quarterback Development
22:40 to 28:00
Discussing the Las Vegas Raiders' draft decisions and their quarterback strategy.
“They eventually come back and get Jake Slaughter out of Florida, the center.”
Show all 22 chapters
Analyzing the AFC Teams' Draft Strategies
28:00 to 29:20
Discussion on the draft strategies of various AFC teams and player selections.
“I thought there were so many like Ted Hurst and Chris, but there were so many of these third round dart throws.”
Deep Dive into the AFC South Teams
30:39 to 37:46
Exploration of the Houston Texans and Indianapolis Colts' recent drafts and future potential.
“I just shook it up and randomized how these divisions would go.”
Jaguars' Draft Decisions and Intangibles
37:46 to 40:05
Discussion on the Jacksonville Jaguars' unconventional draft picks and their focus on intangibles.
“The thing that got a little lost in the shuffle afterwards was how James Gladstone talked about it.”
Tennessee Titans' Roster Changes and Expectations
40:05 to 42:00
Examination of the Tennessee Titans' roster changes and what success looks like for the upcoming season.
“Yeah, because saying intangibles, it doesn't mean anything.”
Tennessee Titans' Path to Success
42:00 to 43:35
Explores what constitutes success for the Titans this season, focusing on key matchups and offensive improvements.
“who traits that he would like to develop and a player who he can really kind of see a vision for.”
Buffalo Bills Draft Strategy
43:35 to 45:55
Discusses the Bills' draft choices and how they address team needs, particularly on defense and offense.
“They kind of remind me a little bit of the Saints last year or a lot of that division.”
Analyzing the Dolphins' Draft Picks
45:55 to 47:51
Looks into the Dolphins' draft strategy and roster challenges, emphasizing their weaker areas.
“He says that these are not scheme fits to what he knows that Jim Leonard, well, does Jim Leonard want to live?”
Rebuilding the NFL Rosters
47:51 to 49:54
Discusses the challenges and strategies behind rebuilding NFL teams, focusing on draft picks and long-term vision.
“Chris Johnson, the cornerback at the end of the first round, was great.”
Assessing Draft Decisions and Future Potential
49:54 to 53:04
Evaluates recent draft decisions made by teams and speculates on their future implications and potential successes.
“And I appreciate picking in volume when you are going through a rebuild, a decimation of their defense.”
Coaching Challenges and Player Development
53:04 to 56:00
Explores the challenges faced by coaches in player development and team dynamics after recent drafts.
“things that they've done this offseason including the one thing that has yet to be done that we're all projecting that they're going to do.”
Jets Draft Analysis and Future Prospects
56:00 to 57:28
Explore the Jets' draft picks and how they impact the team's future.
“It was like the jets were almost like listening to all the conversations of people's favorite players in this draft.”
Reflections on the AFC Draft Coverage
57:28 to 58:25
A recap of the AFC draft coverage and insights on team dynamics.
“Yeah, it wouldn't surprise me if they are better than expected on defense this year.”
Transcript
Automatic transcript. May contain errors.0:00Gregg Rosenthal:This is an iHeart Podcast. Guaranteed Human. Draft day really outdid itself this year. And now that American Express is the official payments partner of the NFL, I know draft days will always be a highlight. This year, card members could feel closer to the action at the 2026 NFL Draft by visiting the Amex fan experience where they could test their skills and earn a personalized fan profile. Now that's membership at its best. Capacity limitations and terms apply. Learn more about Amex's partnership with the NFL at go.amex.nfl.
0:38Welcome to NFL Daily, where we have successfully waited to sign all our players past the deadline for the compensatory pick formula. That was way too many words, but it's complicated. NFL rules are complicated, and this show is going to be complicated. I'm here in the Chris Wessling podcast studio with Jordan Rodrigue and Patrick Claibon. And it's complicated because we're hitting every single team in the AFC and recapping their draft and what it all means.
1:03Gregg Rosenthal:I hope it's not that complicated. Yeah. It's only complicated if we forget somebody. We won't forget everyone. We're going to hit every single draft. No, never. Who was the team we forgot last week? We forgot the Saints. We will not forget the Saints. He also forgot the team he forgot. This is going to be all about the AFC. and yeah I've said a lot already about the draft we did we did day one day two we did some winners and losers but this is more how these players now that we've seen the depth charts fit into the context of the team what it all means and I haven't heard a lot of your two thoughts uh Patrick how are you feeling by the way after your knee surgery and now we're back I can't believe I put it off for as long as I did okay and um for everyone modern medicine's come a long way watching on YouTube.
1:47We appreciate you. Like, go ahead and subscribe so that you can see Patrick's cool new red shirt. It's orange, but good try, Greg. I'm colorblind. Let's start in the AFC. We're going to put three minutes on the clock for each and every team. We're going to talk about their draft and maybe ask a question moving forward about this team. You're up with the Ravens, Patrick.
2:13Patrick Claybon:Okay. I saw the scenario where there was a Bain fall, and And I'm thinking the whole time for months that this was going to be a possibility. But now, you know, Vega is there, the best interior offensive lineman in the draft. There's clearly a need. There's no project, no discussion about moving somebody that plays guard to tackle. You neglect the position in previous years to the extent that John Simpson is having to come back. Now you're drafting a guard in the first round, but you're not going to ding somebody because improvement is about self-evaluation. and when you solve a problem of your own creation, you're still solving a problem.
2:48Gregg Rosenthal:Nice.
2:48Patrick Claybon:I am the Ted Hurst guy. I wish, you know, I all love, you know, to Lane and everything he can do at wide receiver. Jacoby Lane, USC, third round. Yeah, they get him. A couple picks before the Bucs get Ted Hurst, who I love. But, you know, in terms of what they want at receiver, because you saw it in Surratt as well, somebody who can make plays with the balls in the air they get a couple of guys a couple of shots at the dartboard on that and so if it could work out uh i just think coming back uh the question a lot of it because you know with with deckland doyle hey it's lamar you snap the ball to him you block it up they're going to score points this defense does jesse mentor plus the return of matt abike simply solve the issues for the baltimore ravens defense he gets a big one you You know, they take an edge in Zion Young in the second round, who had divergent opinions.
3:46Some people really liked him. Some people think he's just more of just an edge setter. He's very much a Ravens type. But can the combination of Mike Green and Zion Young really make up for not getting Crosby? I know you have Hendrickson, but that's not a great spot over there. But you're right. They didn't add a ton. I think they left a lot of questions moving forward, and I think they might be a team that is pretty active in this post-compensatory pick formula world signing guys because they don't really have a center and tight ends pretty thin after Mark Andrews. So those are two positions I worry about.
4:21Gregg Rosenthal:There was some conversation before the draft about Van Gaon being able to move inside even further. I know we don't want to like often switch guys from position to position, but there was some chatter pre-draft about the potential that he could play center. So he has the football IQ, certainly has the size and the ability and is great on the ground. I think it's interesting. What I really liked that they did was that they didn't. I know this sounds a little bit galaxy brain, but that they didn't just say, OK, Jesse Minter, we're going to go full on at the players that you think you need to kind of make this scheme come to life.
4:54Gregg Rosenthal:Now, they're probably going to sort that out as they go over the next couple of weeks and months and really understand who does fit and who doesn't with what he's got right now and what he's going to do in terms of his scheme. I like that they address the fact that they need to maximize Lamar Jackson and his potential with offensive linemen and receivers, combinations of receivers, specifically giving depth to this offense and dimension to this offense. Love that. Shout out at the end. Diego Pavia, who was going to be a tryout player, Vanderbilt quarterback, has been signed officially to a three-year contract.
5:28So congratulations. Oh, the honking means it's over. I thought it meant Greg didn't get the hint
5:37Gregg Rosenthal:or he took it as an invitation they could be an Njoku team by the way I'm thinking about teams I am up with the Cincinnati Bengals you trade the 10th pick for Dexter Lawrence in a class without a lot of defensive tackles that makes you better right away then they take some real size outliers they drafted a bunch of skinny guys Cassius Howell who's a baller off the edge. And you think about their line now with Miles Murphy, might not pick up the fifth-year option with him. They bring in Jonathan Allen. You have Boye Mafe. You hope Shamar Stewart develops. It's like a skinny group. They also took a tall, skinny cornerback in the third round, Sicario, whom I think you have, Sicario Davis, right?
6:22Sicario Davis.
6:22Gregg Rosenthal:Sicario, that would be a cool last name. Sicario, great movie. My question is, did they do enough? It's very similar to your Ravens question. Did they do enough on defense? Because it is an entirely different looking defense than it was a year ago. Yeah, I'm looking a little bit more closely at what they decided to do post Dexter Lawrence acquisition, because what they clearly thought was, OK, this player is an anchor for us and we're going to build other pieces or other complementary skill sets around him. And I think they really it seemed it appears that they really did try to do that. Cassius Howell, I think, is a good fit, you know, kind of springing loose a little bit off of what Dexter Lawrence can do.
7:02Gregg Rosenthal:And it's a great question because we don't know. We don't know what the fight now Goldens are going to do. Right. Especially I'm concerned still about inside linebacker. I'm concerned about, you know, safety. I just think we need to see that they've gotten some size and speed so they can at least like lift the floor of what this defense. Yeah, they have a questions at Nickelback right now. It's a guy, Jalen Davis, probably who played a lot last year. Kyle Duggar was brought in with Jordan Battle at safety. Powell is a guy I really like, gives them a different vibe. But linebacker, to me, is a huge concern.
7:33And they have to sign some. Some veteran will be signed at linebacker. Right now it's Barrett Carter and Demetrius Knight. But they attacked it. We wanted them to attack the defense, and they attacked the hell out of it and more or less ignored the offense until some middle-round offensive linemen.
7:49Patrick Claybon:Yeah, you just have to, you know, Bengals fans have to reevaluate that pick as Dexter Lawrence was taken with that particular pick. And it's a, you know, in terms of what he does, a deviation away from anybody else in the league. And so, yeah, it's different. So that has to be. I mean, if Howell started, which is probably unlikely over Miles Murphy or Shamar Stewart, they would have four new starters on the defensive line with Mafé Lawrence and Allen.
8:16Gregg Rosenthal:I think there's a chance that he starts. I think there's a chance that he's the best player of the group. I don't think they'll pick up that fifth year option on Miles Murphy. And for what it's worth, the draft Knicks all love Connor Liu, who is a fourth round center that might have a chance to start. But they're basically saying like, Joe, you got this on offense and just kind of running back the same group. It is. I mean, it's not like the worst theory in the world. As long as factoring and as long as the defense does improve, you know, this offense was far from the problem. And yeah, the depth along the offensive line is always going to be important.
8:55The timer's so quick. It just comes up on you.
8:57Gregg Rosenthal:I like this better than the buzzer, to be honest with you. I asked Eric to get creative with the new solution. He did it. The Browns are up. Andrew Barry is the toast of the draft. Yeah, it seemed like the Browns could do no wrong. They read and navigated the draft well. Their picks made sense and several, including the receivers, which I'll get to in a minute are downright exciting to pair together and add again, layers and dimension and like real cool play design opportunity to this offense. And they even got the camera angles correct in the draft room because Jimmy Haslam was not looming over the top of the head coach and the GM instead.
9:33Gregg Rosenthal:He stayed just out of frame. This is the second. We don't know yet. They have to play, but it could be the second consecutive, really solid draft by the Browns in consecutive years. And if you can do that, you can really turn the trajectory of your franchise around. So that's my question. Have they done enough inclusive to, we are not really sure yet at quarterback to potentially alter the course of this franchise right now? I think they have to, I think you have to have expectations. It's year freaking seven of Andrew Barry. Like, yeah, like I think it is okay to have expectations. You went from three wins to five wins.
10:12I mean, how many different, like, how long of rebuilds can you get? And if this is as good a class as a lot of people think it is, and I think it's a good one, too.
10:19Gregg Rosenthal:I think it's a great class. You got two Fanos, by the way. His brother signed as an undrafted free agent, the tackle, Spencer Fanos. That's fun. I think it's okay to have expectations. The quarterback is a major concern, obviously. But beyond that, like, I think you want to see them be much more competitive and win seven or eight games or something like that, I think it's okay to expect more in this long of a rebuild.
10:42Patrick Claybon:Yeah. As you build and you grow off of the things that you've done previously, last year's class was great. And, you know, to, I think maybe we're projecting a little bit, you know, just based on the sheer quantity of picks, right, and the quality of last year's draft. Well, it's like, oh, they can duplicate that. And Concepcion was like my favorite player, so that's obviously going to be right.
11:06Gregg Rosenthal:I like him in pairing with Denzel Boston, too, because to me, it's like I'm not looking at just one of those players in a vacuum. I'm looking at three players, the combination of Casey Concepcion, the combination of him with Denzel Boston and with Harold Fannin. Like, I think that is so fun for Todd Munkin to kind of just really try to create with and try to set everything up. They're setting everything up to leave no doubt about the quarterback eventually when they have to make that decision.
11:35Patrick Claybon:And you can go the easy Monken to Zay Flowers to Casey Concepcion comp in terms of his utilization. And you can kind of picture like this, you know, it's hard to picture Raven's offense. Of course, it's not the biggest part of it. But, you know, this is a 2024 team lighting up the field, but they can be serviceable at the very least, regardless of which second year quarterback or whoever is going to end up playing. And I like they went so heavy offense. Like Fano gets a lot of attention. and obviously probably the left tackle, but they also took a third round developmental tackle. They finally drafted linemen.
12:09And then a guard. And so you add four guys in free agency and trades, three more there, you double up at wide receiver. It's okay to be excited. It's okay to have expectations. Patrick, you're up with the Steelers.
12:21Patrick Claybon:So the Steelers draft looked pretty good. The glaring aspect of it is you're on the phone with the player that you want to draft and Howie Roseman is doing it again and winds up taking him. And so that clouds, I think, the overall vision of what was a pretty solid Steelers draft with that embarrassing moment. I think Jeremy Bernard is a solid player who can make plays now that the Steelers have had to trade for Michael Pittman Jr. and DK Metcalf. And they draft Bernard addressing receiver, reminding me of those days where it's like, oh, the Steelers know how to draft wide receivers. Well, now that the best one that they've drafted, Antonio Brown, is playing for the Dallas Cowboys.
12:57Patrick Claybon:They're back to taking quality at that position. I think any Hatcher, again, in a great spot of need on the offensive line in the middle of what was kind of a run on tackles can help things. But my question is, if Mike McCarthy is an upgrade over the FedEx air, shout out to the United States Postal Service, where does that upgrade come in terms of providing a service to the people of the United States of America? I'm going to mention FedEx. I would like to mention. What is the McCarthy-FedEx connection?
13:28Gregg Rosenthal:No, no. Try to keep up. It was Arthur Smith. Arthur Smith.
13:32Patrick Claybon:So now Mike McCarthy is going to be orchestrating his offense. Yes. Mike McCarthy, a child of the people of Pittsburgh, not the AI Mike McCarthy that Tom posted. And not, you know, a child of nepotism. So if he's there, where does the upgrade come from in terms of an offense that was already severely constricted towards the line of scrimmage? And a bonus question, what's more likely, week nine Will Howard or week nine Aaron Rodgers? Oh, wow. Ooh. Let's put a pit in Rodgers for a second. The upgrade's wide receiver. You mentioned Metcalf, Pittman, Bernard. None of those guys were on the team 18 months ago, and only one of them was on it last year.
14:13So that's the upgrade, and yeah, the play calling. I think the attention to detail. Rodgers, some news came out Monday that the Steelers, at the deadline for this compensatory pick formula, gave him the very rare tender of right of first refusal, which would indicate just in case they have his exclusive rights to sign him if he's unsigned going into training camp and that he would count for the compensatory pick formula and he would sign this one-year$15 million offer, which you would only do that if you thought there's a chance that he would entertain playing with another team. So he's making us think about it.
14:49Gregg Rosenthal:They literally put a pin in Aaron Rodgers. Yeah. Like this is basically keeping him in place as long as they can. under certain terms that you just described. It's interesting to me. They also picked up Drew Aller out of Penn State. So they've got Will Howard and Drew Aller kind of having like a mid-off for backup quarterback or potentially starter. That's where, though, Patrick, to your question, the McCarthy question is huge because he was known back before he kind of became, you know, Mike McCarthy, the retread head coach kind of guy, like as a quarterback developer. He has worked really well with quarterbacks over his history.
15:28Gregg Rosenthal:So I'm excited to see this. I answered. This is now. I think it's still Rodgers. He's not going to fake me out. The question was Howard or Rodgers. Oh, Rodgers. What about Aller? I mean, they just drafted a guy in the third round. I don't think Drew Aller's got it, but they just drafted a guy in the third round, wasting, just throwing picks out willy-nilly. Well. Makes you wonder a little bit that they're a little worried about Rodgers and McCarthy wanted a guy to play with that wasn't Will Howard. Kind of interesting. I don't know about that draft. They're another possible Njoku team. I am up with the Broncos.
16:04Only one pick in the top 100 of the draft. Of course, they went and got Jalen Waddell. Tyler Onyedem in the third, who fits kind of their rotational defensive lineman guy. Jonah Coleman is a running back we talked about at length on the show that I really liked coming into the draft is kind of a Kyron Williams type, could lead the team in carries. And so even the day three picks, the draft Knicks loved them for value. So good draft, not a ton of picks at the top. The only thing is, if you look at their all, they're all 22 on our leads. It's the exact same starting group, except for Jalen Waddle.
16:42So you could, and there's some great teams I've noticed this year, especially. A lot of continuity around the NFL right now. Does that worry you a little bit to be the team that's just we're bringing everyone back and not much is changing. Patrick's given me the crazy eyes.
16:58Patrick Claybon:No, no, it doesn't work. Their quarterback got hurt. They had to play Jarrett Stidham, who played arguably the worst game I've ever seen in the postseason, sans Brian Hoyer. And I may have to go back and watch those Brian Hoyer. The weather was tough. I mean, Drake may honestly wasn't that much better. The weather wasn't as tough as Jarrett Stidham was. That's crazy, Greg. But yeah, you add in a place where it can expand the offense. You get your quarterback back. What were the glaring holes with the Denver Broncos? They needed to do that. I'm not worried, but it's the theory of like when you win the Super Bowl and you just run it back, that almost never works.
17:34But they didn't win the Super Bowl. Right. That's what I mean. It's the same logic that you always need to be changing your team or else it gets a little... Who's the position that you want to change? They did change their team.
17:43Gregg Rosenthal:They literally get the quarterback that they should have had the whole time back and also an improvement at receiver and a different type of player at receiver too. I feel like, to me, the reason I don't necessarily worry about the Denver Broncos here and sort of quote-unquote running it back is because of their offensive line. If that position is stable, it's a much better likelihood of making another push the way that they did if you have that position intact and stable. And conversely, on the defensive line as well, they did miss Jonathan Franklin Myers, but also they clearly were okay with, with letting him walk and not extending him and that defense in general, keeping staff continuity.
18:23Gregg Rosenthal:You know, I think that all of this, I just trust them. I just trust that. And it's interesting because they approached this draft similar to free agency. They didn't make moves, many moves in free agency to all of a sudden they made one major one, right? The, this draft here, they didn't make any major decisions in this draft. And certainly their picks didn't start until the third round, similar kind of approach where they're like, We like the guys we have. We do still need to build depth for the future. Yeah. In the end, the answer to my own question is I'm not that worried. I do think it's okay.
Read the full transcript
18:51Gregg Rosenthal:Had me in the first half. I'm not going to lie. In general, I can see this with a lot of teams. That hasn't always worked because the team you had the year before isn't the same. And I think Sean Payton was getting at that a little bit when talking about we got a little lucky how many close wins we had. But you mentioned it. They've prepared well, for instance, for a guy like Jonathan Franklin Myers to leave. A lot of depth everywhere on both lines. Although their lines stunk in the AFC Championship. To be fair, that was maybe their biggest concern. Jordan, Chiefs, you're up. The Chiefs went really defense-focused, which I like.
19:22Gregg Rosenthal:They needed to because they needed to lean on one of the best cornerback identifiers and talent developers in the NFL in one Steve Spagnuolo. These two corners, Mansoor Delane and Jaden Canopy, have just spags ridden. He must be beaming from ear to ear right now, thinking about what he can do with these players. And I like the chiefs draft overall because they traded up to get Mansour Delane, which you can debate the merits of trading up or trading back. It sounds like two teams were going to potentially pick him if he fell to them. And he was the player that they IDed as the guy that they wanted to get after their secondary basically went to the LA Rams last this past off season.
19:59Gregg Rosenthal:So I really liked that. My big question about the chiefs still, it's usually the question I have about the chiefs is did they do enough at receiver? And then I look at the running backs that they drafted, uh, you know, Emmitt Johnson out of Nebraska, and then they brought in Ken Walker, obviously, in the offseason. And to me, that speaks to potentially Andy Reid counting them in the passing game because of what we knew Ken Walker can do with the ball in his hands. Emmitt Johnson, similarly so, was lauded through the pre-draft process for his hands and his ability there. So I do think that maybe he's counting that because otherwise they're still a little bit questionable or too thin a receiver.
20:33One thing you said before the draft, which is so dead on, which is the teams tell us how they think about their own team in the draft. And I think the Chiefs told us that they're good at receiver and they're good on the offensive line. And a lot of people thought those are two positions they would address. I think Rasheed Rice, learning that he's not going to face any more further punishment from the NFL, informed that, like that they can expect him week one. I think their pass rush guys that they drafted are going to be absolutely crucial to this season. R. Mason Thomas, early second round pick.
21:03The R stands for nothing. Right. It's about as important an early second round pick because they just need juice. and Peter Woods, who's a late first-round pick at defensive tackle. Again, they need juice, and those are two guys that they're hoping add a little juice to their defense. It's been about three years since they've had a great draft when they had him with McDuffie. They could really use for this to be like that.
21:22Patrick Claybon:And that's why having the ammunition that they had for the first time in forever to come up and get Delane to kind of solve, to pick out the spot of, well, what is the most difficult spot for us to add young talent here relative to what's available? And so they're able to go up and do that with the lane and then kind of filter in guys like Peter Woods on the interior defensive line. It's going to take time. It's probably not going to be like one of those situations where, Oh, instant impact with Peter Woods, but you don't necessarily need that instant impact. You need,
21:55Gregg Rosenthal:you need to occupy at least one extra per one person. So that Chris Jones has less. If you don't know, if you don't get instant impact though, like you need me, me, our Mason Thomas to do it or Ashton Jalati from last year. like their pass rush was an abomination last year. They need Chris Jones to be like a little better than he was last year too. So.
22:15Patrick Claybon:And that's why you draft on the traits of a guy like Peter Woods, where it's like, okay, maybe your hands aren't where they're going to be in year three, but big fast guy run hard. Also Patrick Mahomes, Justin Fields, Garrett Nussmeyer. That's a weird QB room. I love it.
22:31Gregg Rosenthal:Patrick and I are really respecting the honking. I just want to throw that out in the universe. Okay. That's my last honk of the day. Patrick, you're up with the Chargers.
22:39Patrick Claybon:All right, so the Chargers take Mesador after three tackles go in the previous five picks. They eventually come back and get Jake Slaughter out of Florida, the center. The speedster, Brennan Thompson, out of Mississippi State for Mike Mack to scheme up. So that's fun. They come back and go the other direction in measurables to get the largest player in the draft. And Travis Burke, Logan Taylor, the guard, and another guard, Alex at 206. So late in the draft, they go quantity on the offensive line. but the quantity pick that they had early on goes to an edge that would have to either supplant a Hall of Famer or a guy who had 13 sacks last year.
23:15Patrick Claybon:Did the OA departure actually put the Chargers in a position of need to take Hakeem Mesidor in the first round of the 2026 draft?
23:23Gregg Rosenthal:I think yes, because they were rushing three a lot. And so and it was super productive for them when they were doing that last season. And so I do think that this was something they considered to be their biggest need. and also offensive line depth. They got killed for, and they had a position catastrophe at both tackle spots, obviously. But even before that, they just got totally killed for not having enough developmental depth on the interior offensive line. And now they do. Sounds like Jay Slaughter, which is a badass name, by the way, could play center or guard as well. So I know, again, we don't want to move people around too much, but it is something where they, This was kind of a self-aware draft by the Chargers, in my opinion.
24:05Gregg Rosenthal:I always appreciate when teams draft with some self-awareness. And it was very like Harbaugh gets his guys and Mike Mack gets his guys. And it was a very identity kind of draft as well. Yeah, they just went volume on the offensive line, hoping that they can develop some of these later guys. It's a risk. Jake Slaughter was a lot of people's number one center in the class. You would have to imagine they are going to move him to guard as a rookie and cross-train him because they signed Tyler Beata. who's never played a different position. I think long-term, though, having a guy that can play center, Biotis might be a one, two-year guy.
24:39You have him on a rookie contract. It all makes sense. The entire offensive line is going to be different than it was a year ago. Now, after Joel got hurt. Obviously, the two tackles got hurt, but all five starters will be different than the five starters that were playing in the playoffs.
24:56Gregg Rosenthal:I'm trying to just find out if the Chargers offensive linemen collectively, if their group of last names is more of like a detective, a detective show title. Slaughter, Beatish, Cole, Strange, Joe Alt. Or if it's a series of Pokemon. You know, Strange, Beatish, Slaughter. I could see it. Strange and Slaughter itself is a buddy cop film. It's sick. They need your guy from a year ago, Trey Harris, to kind of step up at receiver. They didn't go receiver, but I think the guys they drafted last year could step up. And to answer your messador question, Yeah, I think the answer is yes. And also, Cleo Mack's very year-to-year.
25:34He thought about retirement. So I think they think of that position as three starters, and they got one.
25:39Gregg Rosenthal:Yeah, and again, it was highly productive for them last year. So I can see at least the process behind that.
25:48I'm up next. It's the Raiders. I love that John Spitek is back to being everyone's favorite. They're so deep. at Edge, our buddy Drew Christensen, before we taped 40s and free agents, the Raiders fans, he's like, did they even need Kieran Crawford in the third round? Like, we got too many pass rushers. I mean, talking about the Raiders having too many pass rushers, I thought that was a good pick. There was a big gap maybe between him and who was coming next. Trayden Stooks in the second round can play safety for you. They added four players in the secondary between rounds two and five. So I think they told us a little bit what they thought about their roster was that the defense, especially the secondary, actually still needed more work on offense after Mendoza.
26:34I mean, they had a million picks. Trey Zunes, an offensive lineman in round three and Mike Washington, kind of a big play running back in round four. My question is, are they setting up Fernando Mendoza for success? The number one wide receiver right now on the roster is probably Jalen Naylor.
26:53Gregg Rosenthal:It's the tight end. Sure, but I'm saying wide receiver. well yeah and I know they got banged for not like focusing more high round pick attention on that they needed more dimension in my opinion and I say that you know not to sound like a broken record a lot of teams I think suffer from this where they get too many guys that are the same guys or they they kind of go and fall into these patterns or habits Malik Benson I know he's a six-round pick super late pickup but he's a burner like he's fast fast he can get behind a defense so we'll see if that works out. I like that they address the quarterback development plan in free agency.
27:30Gregg Rosenthal:I think that's where you do it. If you are going to spend that type of draft capital, the number one overall pick on a quarterback, you need to set up infrastructure for him around him, the Linderbaum signing and then bringing in Kirk Cousins to sort of help in that bridge. Like, I just think that they've already done their quarterback development plan. And now it's about, okay, we really need to figure out there's a, the rest of the roster exists also. And I'm sure they had, there was a scenario where they take a receiver earlier, but yeah, that guy didn't fall to them. They didn't want Denzel Boston.
28:02I thought there were so many like Ted Hurst and Chris, but there were so many of these third round dart throws. I wouldn't, and they had so many picks. I would have thought they would have done a receiver a little earlier, but no. Yeah. Or Surratt, give Surratt to his old college QB Mendoza.
28:15Patrick Claybon:I think we could take away from that, you know, their comfort with regards to what they did do in the plan. which calls 2025 into question once again, like what exactly was that? Because you clearly are looking into this Kirk Cousins thing, and I don't think it's going to be Kirk Cousins all season. I think eventually the number one overall pick is going to have to play because playing is how you improve, and I don't know how much watching is going to do for Fernando Mendoza. And to be honest, I think good. But, you know, if he goes out there, you know, has the slings of an arrows of outrageous fortune, you know, things can work.
28:55And they got Javad McCoy in the fourth. It's a good offseason for Rob Leonard. And for the 99 percent of the people out there listening who don't know who Rob Leonard is, that's the defensive coordinator of the Las Vegas. Don't think that many people are familiar, but man, they loaded up some picks for Rob Leonard. Once again, I did go over the honking limit, but let's take a break so we don't honk anymore. We will be back with AFC South on the other side. We're moving. We're moving well.
29:33Patrick Claybon:For adults with Crohn's disease or ulcerative colitis symptoms, every choice matters. Tremphaya offers self-injection or intravenous infusion from the start. Tremphaya is administered as injections under the skin or infusions through a vein every four weeks, followed by injections under the skin every four or eight weeks. If your doctor decides that you can self-inject Tremphaya, proper training is required. Tremphaya is a prescription medicine used to treat adults with moderately to severely active Crohn's disease and adults with moderately to severely active ulcerative colitis, serious allergic reactions, increased risk of infections or lower ability to fight them, and liver problems may occur.
30:14Patrick Claybon:Before treatment, get checked for infections and tuberculosis. Tell your doctor if you have an infection, flu-like symptoms, or need a vaccine. Explore what's possible. Ask your doctor about Trimphia today. Call 1-800-526-7736 to learn more or visit trimphiaradio.com.
30:38back on NFL Daily. I just shook it up and randomized how these divisions would go. AFC South, I feel like, has to wait till the end. A lot of the times we're going second with AFC South and one of the premier teams in the NFL, the Houston Texans.
30:54Gregg Rosenthal:Yeah. Do you guys ever feel like Texans GM Nick Casario is one of those sort of like mild-mannered guys who walks around the office in like his fleece quarter zip vest and then in his non-work hours, he's in a fight club. Because I feel like he and D 'Amico Ryans just keep finding absolute ass kickers to add to this defense. And if there's one thing I'm starting to really, really trust, it's that they will find guys who can not only at times contribute immediately, but will just continue to make this an absolute defensive factory. This time, it's Caden McDonald, the defensive tackle out of Ohio State, who's going to contribute right away, should give their run game an immediate boost.
31:35Gregg Rosenthal:Also, like, really loved that moment for him when he did get drafted because he was super emotional about it. And they didn't have much else to do on defense in terms of starters. That was a need for them, sort of a quiet one after for agency. And they didn't they needed some safety depth as well. And so they always are looking for those guys and also linebackers as well. So they paid attention to those spots in the draft. I also like that they continued to address their offensive line. Like this was a team that maneuvered its offensive line quite a bit in the offseason, some departures and also a couple of additions, but also needed to get younger at certain positions to Kaylin Rutledge.
32:12Gregg Rosenthal:It was a popular pick for them. So I really like this draft. And my biggest question is, what can this offense itself specifically look like in year two under Nick Cayley? I don't have any remaining questions about this defense right now and probably in the future. But I do have questions about year two of this system. How will they add in help for C.J. Stroud? And who will C.J. Stroud even be? I'm not worried about C.J. Stroud, but it is obviously a big question for them, for him to regain the sizzle I think he had as a rookie. because it's less about the disastrous playoff game and more about the uneven regular seasons that he's had the last two seasons, where I think they haven't been as bad as people think, but also they haven't been as consistent.
32:59The weirdest rumor, you know, report throughout this whole thing was that Nico Collins was potentially available. They have a lot to sort out, Patrick. That's what worries me with Kaylee, who didn't seem like he sorted out. Yeah, you have all these offensive linemen, but you have a million to sort out. And then after Nico Collins, you kind of have a weird receiver group to fill out where it's like we don't know what the roles are.
33:18Patrick Claybon:Yeah, we don't know what the roles are, but we know that there's talent there. Yep. Like top to bottom. And we consider a team that was so gifted, so explosive, so good on defense. And it's like, we just got to fix the offense. And you look position by position, and you're like, wait, okay. So they got those two rookies from Iowa State. They were pretty good at wide receiver, plus one of the better wide receivers in the game. Tight end, they at least have one. You get Tank Dell back this year too. We'll see. Turn of Tank Dell. So it's like position wise, I want to look at this heavily defensive draft and be like, oh, wow, why aren't they addressing the need?
33:50Patrick Claybon:It's got like Keelan Rutledge, Nick Haley, CJ Straub. They got to figure it out.
33:55Gregg Rosenthal:Yeah. And don't forget, they addressed already. David Montgomery is on the team with Woody Marks now. And I really so I really like this build. They just have to do something with it at this point. The with a stick. The Colts build has been fascinating to me over the last handful of years, especially this offseason. This is your team, Patrick.
34:12Patrick Claybon:Yes, the Colts get one of the better interior linebackers in terms of the draft where they're able to kind of build on the need there. The questions kind of go out to edge where it's, you know, a lot of it was related to what players were actually available when they did make the picks. But in terms of, you know, filling out this this need, where's that necessarily coming from? And then also with the the trade request and I'm blanking on one of the better corners. Sauce Gardner? No. Kenny Moore. Yes. Kenny Moore, who's again, you know, it is age 30 season. You do get sauce, but you have, in my opinion, a need at cornerback where there's still spots on this team that are massive areas of need that haven't necessarily been addressed.
35:05Patrick Claybon:And my question with the 2026 Indianapolis Colts, obviously the status of dimes and his availability coming back from the Achilles is there. Are there enough pieces to facilitate a successful dime season even after he came back? Yes. To me, they're one of the biggest boom or bust teams. Like if everything goes right, I think it's just barely yes. although they could use another wide receiver. Alec Pierce is coming off a surgery, and their third receiver right now is Westbrook-Akine. People love Deion Burks, who was a seventh-round pick. You can't even expect that guy to make the team, but Daniel Jeremiah loved him.
35:41People love Deion Burks, so maybe he could help, but they're really trying to thread a very short needle, whereas some of these teams that are good, like the Rams, obviously, we'll get to, where you can't see starters out of the class. The Colts didn't have a first-round pick, and they're definitely starting CJ Allen and they're almost certainly starting AJ Halsey, their third round pick who people loved. And some of their later guys also, I think, are going to have a chance to play right away. So high risk, I think, approach.
36:10Gregg Rosenthal:CJ Allen picked a team match, one of my favorite ones in this entire draft, because he immediately, you know, they parted ways with Zaire Franklin and it was probably time at that point. And they needed to get a day one starter, Captain Green Dot material in that building to shore up the center of their defense that had a lot of issues last year. And so I like, you know, you've talked a lot about statements of intent, Greg. This was one of them for them. No first round pick, so you're not going to probably draft an edge rusher. You're not going to reach on one in the second round. So you're going to go take other areas of your defense in the second and third round that are super, super important to that group.
36:48Gregg Rosenthal:And that's C.J. Allen and then A.J. Halsey at safety, like you mentioned. I think that they really, I like this draft class. And I think it works based on where they're at. I also don't think they necessarily added like a premier receiver with a high pick because they also have Tyler Warren, and they've sort of declared him as one of those mismatched receivers. So they're building out these layers, but you're probably looking at him as like a volume one or two and receiver three, essentially.
37:15Patrick Claybon:And they go volume at edge at five and six with Gumbs and Curry. But you hope one of those guys hits. They have to. They sort of do. I like that my guy, TJ Allen, getting the first round treatment. Whenever you're the second round pick, but they didn't have the first rounder, you get the first round treatment, and he deserved it. One of my favorites. The Jags also did not have a first round pick because of the Travis Hunter trade. They angered a lot of the draft nicks because they went so far off the consensus board with a lot of their picks. The thing that got a little lost in the shuffle afterwards was how James Gladstone talked about it.
37:51And he said, we continue to just place a higher priority on the intangible elements of the. So when people, I think almost unfairly, like, hey, you think you're smarter than the rest of the NFL? When he's saying that we're focusing on intangibles, I do think he's telling you, yeah, like we're trying to look at things differently. We'll see if they're right. The only problem with like taking, you know, Borker in the second round, people were shocked about the tight end. and it started this tight end run is like, if all these tight ends and Marlon Klein was another crazy one with the Texans, if all these tight ends were worthy of second round picks, like why, why didn't these tight ends in free agency get paid more?
38:30Like Kate Otten's a$20 million player. If you're taking, if you're taking Burke or in the second round,
38:35Gregg Rosenthal:they didn't get paid more because they were coming in the draft. Right. Like it helped. These are teams capitalizing on a surplus. Right. And I think the, the argument would be like, we'll see they're, they're projecting a lot in an older player who's not necessarily going to be like a big blocker, but Albert Regis, Jalen Husky, Wesley Williams, all these guys that they, they were taking like a risk on. Do you believe that there is a way Jordan to find intangibly rich players better than other teams? I guess we'll see, you know, I mean, I've done a lot of work on scouting and process and all that type of thing.
39:13Gregg Rosenthal:I think a lot of teams think they are, they have a good process of doing that, but you just don't know, right? Like, I guess we'll have to see. He said like, that's kind of their focus to the point where they will ignore, I think, some of the other more traditional stuff like combine numbers. Yeah, because I will tell you, I will tell you too, just knowing that building, they're not ignoring the consensus board. Like they probably have a bigger built out consensus board. like they're using like our friend Arif Hassan like they are using these things that they are aware of them but they're choosing to go in a different direction and that is really I don't want to say strange but it's intriguing to me like I'm curious to know more about why they did that I love it but they also didn't get almost any production out of their rookie class last year so they need that class to step up and they need these guys to play because then if you go a couple years like that then it gets really worried
40:00Patrick Claybon:and I think eventually you will need to tell people what aspects you are using to evaluate these guys
40:05Gregg Rosenthal:I would like to know.
40:06Patrick Claybon:Yeah, because saying intangibles, it doesn't mean anything. Like, what is it? Well, Casario talks a lot about he wants captains. He wants guys who are married with, like, kids. He wants responsible, like, young men.
40:17Gregg Rosenthal:And he wants them to join his fight club. Right. I don't know. I don't think that's what the Jaguars are doing, but that's what Casario talks about. Well, yeah, the married with kids things is preposterous. Yeah.
40:26Patrick Claybon:It's incalculably vapid. But the whole intangibles thing. Yeah, like, James, let us know what the thing is. because saying intangibles, like you couldn't evaluate based on intangibles. That's proprietary information. Because they're intangible.
40:41Gregg Rosenthal:I'm going to find out. How can you evaluate on something that's intangible? Wait, did you say incurably vapid? What did you say? Incalculably vapid. Incalculably vapid. That's a winner. That is what the Tennessee Titans will hope not to be this year. Basically, do not be the incalculably, I can't say that word, vapid team. Amazing. You gave it a creditable attempt. Thank you. Yes, I have the Tennessee Titans. excuse me, not even halfway through last season, we at this desk were all collectively tearing our hair out about all of the drops and inconsistency that Cam Ward had along his receiver during his rookie season.
41:18Gregg Rosenthal:Now he's got a new best friend. Yes. Arnold Tate, who the Titans really surprised everybody by drafting him at number four. But it was pretty clear with all the hype around them potentially picking Jeremiah Love that they were going to go offense. And I really liked what they started doing in this draft because they had some fun with pairing. I think players, their head coaches were going to like. Now they have two head coaches in the building, our former head coaches, one currently the head coach and Robert Sala. And they also have Brian Dable. So it really felt like - Assistant GM Brian Dable?
41:48He's doing great.
41:50Gregg Rosenthal:It really felt, it really feels like they're kind of getting, they each got like their guy guys because later in the first round, Keldrick Falk really does feel like a Robert Sala player who traits that he would like to develop and a player who he can really kind of see a vision for. So I like the intentionality that they went through. I like that in the offseason that they rebuilt their defensive line. It looks completely different now with Falk and then also Jonathan Franklin Myers being there next to Jeffrey Simmons. My big question that remains, what does success actually look like for the Tennessee Titans this season?
42:24Kim Ward playing more consistently and having a productive offense. Obviously, you don't want Salah's defense to fall, like to be terrible, but they don't even matter that much to me. They could be anywhere from like 24th to 10th. It's not going to change how like...
42:40Gregg Rosenthal:Great seat if you're Salah, you know? And Dable, like think how different this entire roster would be if Dable wasn't there. He has so many ex-Giants. But yeah, if this works out, and Tate is only the second number one over, or third number one overall pick to have a receiver drafted the very year after. Good history here. Joe Burrow got Jamar Chase the next year and David Carr got Andre Johnson the next year. So let's hope let's hope it works like that. Yeah. If he's Jamar Chase or Andre Johnson, that absolutely works out.
43:11Patrick Claybon:I think success for the Titans looks like road wins in like two of three in Indianapolis, in Houston, Jacksonville. They get those. They get two out of three of those wins against pretty good teams. They're all playoff contenders where you can say, all right, they've arrived. They are within the division. They're having success there. If they get that, I think we can project long-term success. They kind of remind me a little bit of the Saints last year or a lot of that division. The jump from three wins to six or seven is actually one of the easiest jumps you can possibly make in the NFL. That's success.
43:50Just getting to like, not great, but okay. But especially on offense.
43:54Gregg Rosenthal:That's all I care about. improving on offense and showing you're building an environment for your future franchise quarterback is going to be the end all be all goal here and it has to be and so that's why I like about what they did in free agency combined with picking Carnell Tate you're just giving the quarterback more tools I love that tape pick the more the more I sat with it and I'm surprised some people don't they're dumb the bills they're up Patrick Claibon is going to talk about him
44:20Patrick Claybon:Yes, and the Buffalo Bills are able to use their draft capital to address multiple spots where you get TJ Parker out of Clemson and you're like, wait, this feels like a McDermott pick in terms of the type of player there, but they address needs. They address needs in the secondary as well, and the Buffalo Bills also get a wide receiver in terms of what they can do in this draft where they've got a unit, a group of guys who haven't necessarily had success where they bring in the veteran edge rusher. So they address needs there. In terms of trying to stay healthy, I think Brandon Bean would like to get into the postseason where they say, okay, these are the guys we can count on and rely on to play and rush the passer.
45:14Patrick Claybon:it's just a typical question of was enough done right I don't I don't see the vision on defense I do worry about it they've added people this year I don't know if I necessarily see them as like Jim Leonard people that was you know we that was how they talked about really taking this group over like we have a vision for the whole team I don't know if I see it yet on defense we'll
45:37Gregg Rosenthal:see I expand on that please because Ollie was like pretty fired up on the winners and losers podcast that you guys did recently. And I thought it was super interesting because when you look at this draft on paper, it does look like they've addressed their defense yet. When you go, you know, pop the hood a little bit and Ollie was, was pretty solid talking about this. He says that these are not scheme fits to what he knows that Jim Leonard, well, does Jim Leonard want to live?
46:03Patrick Claybon:Jim's Jim Leonard's scheme. Really? We think it's going to be more of, you know, the Vance Joseph guys in multiple positions, a lot of posts, that move, a lot of like versatility. And that's not necessarily what they've focused on this offseason and it is interesting to see. We're taping this in the studio. We got the nice graphics up if you're checking it out on YouTube and it says how the Bills eliminated by the Broncos and Jim Leonard's team last year. It just makes me think, man, that's another Super Bowl appearance they really should have had. They should have won that freaking game. They were playing well.
46:31They would have beat the Patriots. I think they probably would have lost in the end, but yeah, that's like two Super Bowls they were robbed by. Sorry. That's just a distraction from the larger point. Skyler Bell could be like a future Khalil Shakir.
46:42Gregg Rosenthal:Yeah. Partner where he does some similar things and Josh Allen likes to use him. Yeah. I like his, his upside in terms of just like he, he, we want to talk about versatility. I do think that he's a versatile player. He's kind of like toolsy. He's physical, like all of that. But, but I also think I'm higher Patrick to answer your initial question. Did they do enough on offense? I'm just, I'm higher. I think than most on the DJ more edition. I think he plus the tight ends, you know, Brandon being alluded to this and I know he says it every year, but he alluded to this a little bit more, Greg, with us in our very brief interview we did with him at the Combine, actually committing to getting a little bit heavier in terms of the personnel, not using the extra tackle, doing more things with the tight ends.
47:23Gregg Rosenthal:And I think that this, you know, getting their guys healthy will be important, but I like DJ Moore's fit with that type of plan. The roster, even though I think it's got some problems on defense, not as bad as I I thought once I went through it, still Super Bowl contender. The Dolphins are not. Maybe the worst roster in the NFL. I love this draft. Right now? I love what they're doing. I think when you have so many picks, you're going to have ones that are popular. Chris Johnson, the cornerback at the end of the first round, was great. Jacob Rodriguez was an interesting pick that they chose him kind of over CJ Allen and some of the other inside linebackers.
48:02But he sets a tone. Chris Bell is a third round pick with a really high upside from Louisville. But Caleb Douglas was a guy that people were stunned went that early. We'll see. I mean, their number one receiver right now, potentially, is Greg Dulcich, third tight end. I mean, they have no... I can't remember a worse wide receiver edge combination. Their top edge is Chop Robinson, who hasn't been able to stay on the field. So they didn't really get to address those positions with anything. Sure. Like, I like the draft. Fine. But do you think this is the worst roster in the NFL, Patrick? That's what I settled on after going through 32 hour lads groups.
48:42Patrick Claybon:No, I don't. I would give the edge to a different team. Who? If the Arizona Cardinals have to play Gardner Minshew.
48:50Gregg Rosenthal:He finally came back around. Yeah. The Arizona Cardinals have an awesome offense other than quarterback, actually. I've kind of settled in on that. But that's another conversation.
49:00Patrick Claybon:Yeah. No, I mean, it's Jacoby dependent. to me there. But yeah, I wouldn't say it's the worst roster in the NFL, but I mean, it's in the discussion. This is what rebuilds look like, though. I'm not killing them for that. I think some of these picks will work out. Some of them don't. You said you really loved it. What made you love this class?
49:18Gregg Rosenthal:I loved it because they followed exactly what this build is supposed to be. They have established who they're now. John Eric Sullivan is calling them pillars. Previously, they've been known as weight-bearing walls. he's established who they are and then picked in volume on the other side of that movement in free agency and I think that that's important because a lot of these guys are going to play right away and they're gonna they're gonna have to see kind of what they can be and what they can contribute and I think if they get you know if they even hit on 40 percent uh contributors key role players in this class that is a successful draft and I like that they had they picked 30 they had 13 picks the most of any team.
50:00Gregg Rosenthal:And I appreciate picking in volume when you are going through a rebuild, a decimation of their defense. That's that significant. And I absolutely think that, you know, a guy like, um, uh, Chris Johnson is a, is a cornerstone type of guy who you can build around. I appreciated this draft because it, to me, it's really part to whole sets. It really is in sync with their overall plan, not a sprint rebuild, just a, it's a sprint. Same old rebuild. I maintain that. Caden Proctor's got to work out. You passed on Caleb Downs. I do think them and the Giants, I'm going to keep an eye on those two for passing on Caleb Downs.
50:34Gregg Rosenthal:Talk to me in 20, in 2027. Right. After, you know, as, as 2027, like halfway through the season, get, get to me at the midway point because these are the exact same things that people were saying about the 49ers, the Bucks, the Rams. But those teams were previously good and had like great players. All teams that decimated their roster and then overhauled it in rapid fashion by taking on a lot of dead money and then picked in volume on the other side. I think, yes, they were coming from a position where they didn't have like the longest playoff drought, you know, winning, in terms of getting a win in the NFL.
51:06That's the problem. They're building really from the start. You got the Patriots who felt like they were in a similar position last year and then ended up in the Super Bowl. What do you think?
51:16Gregg Rosenthal:I appreciate it. Again, like I just mentioned with Miami, I appreciate when a team has a lot of draft picks and then things kind of make sense with their decision-making. Caleb Lomu might have given us the best intro video of the entire draft and one of the best I've ever seen. I like that they went that direction with their first-round pick, and then they grabbed another tackle later on in Demetrius Crownover, also a great name. I like that they hit the other side of the line of scrimmage. Is it Yakis? Yakis, Gabe Yakis. Yeah, Gabe Yakis, who is a fast and aggressive pass rusher. He fits kind of in with what they need to really desperately add on that side of the ball.
51:53Gregg Rosenthal:They had a tight end need as well. They went with one with their third pick, Eli Raritan out of Notre Dame. He's more of a blocking tight end, but it really balances well if teams are wanting to put multiple tight ends on the field at once, which they are. Really fits in. Again, piece of a larger puzzle. You could see the strategy. And first and foremost and most importantly, it began with continuing to add to their offensive line, continuing to add to their pass rush. Those are going to be needs for them, I would say, again, in the coming year as well. They just were decimated. They just needed so much help.
52:24Gregg Rosenthal:But I think this is a really, really great addition to what they built last year along those lines. Yeah, Yakis is kind of a rugged power player. That's their type, and they needed to get younger. It was an old, pretty slow defense, still pretty slow at linebacker. It would be interesting if Lomo possibly plays left tackle for them. like if they do consider playing will campbell inside but it gives them some flexibility i think
52:50Patrick Claybon:that's part of the advantage of that pick yeah and they have the the options right and once you you know it's it's better to have the options than to not and it's you know not to say you're forced into a situation where the guy you took in the top five uh to play tackle has to play tackle uh but they would be able to to move off of that i think like when we consider all of the other things that they've done this offseason including the one thing that has yet to be done that we're all projecting that they're going to do. AJ Brown? Yeah. It's hard to evaluate everything until that thing actually happens.
53:21Let's predict what they give up for him. Anyone have any thoughts?
53:26Gregg Rosenthal:A first and a second. Whoa. That would be... A first and a fourth. A problem for me. Howie Roseman. Next year's 2028. First and a fifth. I think like first in Kayshawn Booty. How about that? But a first is rich. It might be a couple years out there was one report, like that it could be a 28 first. I don't know why the Eagles would want a receiver back in the equation after doing what they've done to their receiver's room over the last. Just a different style than the types of guys that they have. I guess Stowers kind of plays a Keishan Booty role, but maybe more just like, why not? But yeah, I mean, I would, that probably isn't really changing the equation too much, Keishan Booty.
54:04He's just a nice little throw-in. Nice little booty.
54:07Gregg Rosenthal:As a Patriots fan, what did you think about their draft? It was fine. fine. I don't have hot takes on Lomu. I like the flexibility. My big question about them was on paper, and especially factoring in the potential of this AJ Brown trade, on paper, they look like they got better. They're also going to have a tougher schedule this year, so what will this team actually be? I worry that they're giving up future picks to get slower in general for a team that I think was a little slow, but I like AJ Brown obviously. You're up with the Jets. Is this the last team in the
54:41Patrick Claybon:AFC well and and that's the thing about the Patriots schedule getting tougher the Jets got better not only do they get the court you know the parallels uh Dan Campbell in the turnaround with Aaron Glenn there they get Aiden Hutchinson well here's David Bailey they get Sam Laporta well here comes Kenyon Sadiq they get a couple of national champions and Omar Cooper and D 'Angelo Pons on both sides uh of the ball there where you you see the vision for the way that this is going going to work in this edition of the Aaron Glenn era. But the question comes back to a couple of guys that have seen and played and done a lot of football and Frank Reich and Gino Smith.
55:22Patrick Claybon:Is that the recipe for success still? Like even after this draft, which I do feel great about in the year of our Lord, 2026. I'm, I'm more worried about Reich in a weird way. Cause I think, I think Gino, we kind of know who he's going to be. Let's say in a better situation, he's going to be like a high level backup bridge starter type ish. But can Frank Reich provide that? We'll see Sadiq. I think there's questions of like, how do you see using him? You know, Mason Taylor is going to probably have to bulk up and be a little bit more of that wide tight end and do the blocking while Sadiq is, is running up the seam.
55:58Gregg Rosenthal:Yeah, I could totally see that. You know, it was funny. It was like the jets were almost like listening to all the conversations of people's favorite players in this draft. because it's Kenyon Sadiq, who is a lot of people's favorite player. It's Omar Cooper Jr. is a lot of people's favorite player. D 'Angelo Pons, which was really a nice moment when Pons, who got the Aaron Glenn comp, goes to Aaron Glenn and Aaron Glenn watching him like, you know, like a proud dad, watching him on the screen. It's hard to fault this draft. It's also hard to say, okay, the Jets. The Jets, right? Right, like on paper, their roster looks okay.
56:35Now they have eight new starters on defense. I think it's a big test. Can Aaron Glenn actually coach defense well in this modern NFL? He's kind of using some of the old Parcell stuff. It didn't work great at the end of the Detroit run. He has a lot of new players, including the number two overall pick in the draft and pond. So I think he's got to make it work. I think Darren Mugey though has set himself up. Well, it's hope season. The fact they have three first round picks next year. I think he's kind of insulated himself from any.
57:04Gregg Rosenthal:he's built he's built himself a castle he that any changes that go on do you think Aaron Glenn can get it done with all these new guys in free agency in the draft I hope he gets a chance
57:13Patrick Claybon:we've already saved Aaron Mugey's job with hypothetical picks I would like I would like Aaron Glenn to have and he had to lose Quinnen Williams and Sauce Gardner to get it but that is a difference I think between let's say the Dolphins rebuild and the Jets rebuild is that the Jets are really selling hope with these three picks next year and that's the advantage in the GM coach dichotomy is it's easier for the GM to sell the future than the coach because the coach has to sit there and answer questions every time after Sauce Gardner and, you know, Quentin Williams are making plays for other teams.
57:44Gregg Rosenthal:Yeah, it wouldn't surprise me if they are better than expected on defense this year. The safety that they picked up, the corners, I really – it's good on paper. I mean, I like their line. Yeah. I think it was a great week for Geno. Geno Nation, we are so back. We thought it was over. But I'm a Jets fan, at least for 2026. We did it around the AFC. We did it all week, all 32 teams. I think we've accomplished a lot, and I appreciate your friendship. And most importantly, what you contribute to NFL Daily. Friendship comes and goes. This show's forever. Yes. In reverse order, that's your hierarchy.
58:27No, it's not. We will be back one more time this week. myself and Nick Shook talking about some of the veterans that were impacted by the draft. And then I think that finally wraps up our 2026 draft coverage in the offseason really starts. See you then.
58:46Gregg Rosenthal:This is an iHeart Podcast. Guaranteed human.
From the publisher
Gregg Rosenthal is joined by Jourdan Rodrigue and Patrick Claybon to take a look at the state of the AFC now that the dust has settled on the NFL Draft. The crew starts with a breakdown of the AFC North followed by the AFC West, AFC South and AFC East.
NFL Daily YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/nflpodcasts
See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.




