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17:15Steve Wyche:A beautiful touchdown throw. Where it ends up being a pass interference. It goes through Devonta Smith's hands. Devonta Smith's hands. But he had so many different plays. And then, of course, you remember in the Super Bowl, it wasn't just the big time touchdown up the middle of the field. It was some great third and long. So it matters a little that you play your best in the biggest of spots, Jalen Hurts.

17:35Jourdan Rodrigue:And he's throwing it. You mentioned it a couple times in sort of the breakdown of these plays that we're watching on the screen right now. Third and long, third and long, third and long. And he's going outside the numbers. He's making extremely precise, difficult throws. He's showing that he's got all of the tools that you could possibly want or need in a quarterback. It's just not the way that their offense needed to be sometimes through the course of the last. I mean, he struggled, though, too.

17:58Steve Wyche:Chris Babona, who's doing the graphics in the back, kind of negging him, noting that he was the Super Bowl MVP, but ranked 23rd by PFF grade in 2024. I mean, but yeah, by the week-to-week consistency in the passing game, they need to get better. But he got there in the end last week. Fine. I mean, my whole thing is, they're a team that when you get to a certain part of the field, once it's third down, it's two down territory. Yeah. Right? They're pushing it. They're going for it. He plays under a different metric than other quarterbacks because of the way they call their plays because of those situations.

18:32on third down. It doesn't most teams on third and five are throwing it outside of Detroit. They're going to run the Eagles and the Lions are likely to run it.

18:43Jourdan Rodrigue:It's not a must pass down. It is not. They go automatic to third and fourth down just because the way they're built.

18:49Steve Wyche:It's a great point because like that, that interference on Devante Smith, we pointed out this great pass that sets him up on the goal line. What happens next? Tush push. He's just a, he's a red zone. And it's here for one more year, baby. So Jalen Hurts is on the island. Congratulations. Let's get him on. Slight apology for last year, but, you know, circumstances. We got six guys on. We now have 16 remaining. Can I drop the first controversy bomb in here? Yeah, you could go a guy that you don't want. You could do a guy you want. I'm going with a guy I want, but it's more of a projection. Oh. Dak Prescott.

19:23Okay. Okay, and here's why I say they got him wide receiver, right? You got George Pickens to go with CD Land. you got to show up the offensive line is going to be a little bit better we don't talk about the Cowboys right now we're talking about Jerry Jones and Micah Parsons but we're not talking about the Cowboys right that's usually when they play better at shoddy and I'm talking to coaches who have coached with him who have coached against him the level of respect he has among his peers is significantly greater than the uninformed public has a Brian Schottenheimer they think he is the perfect type of temperament and everything to lead this offense and this team.

20:00I think Dak Prescott, he may not make the initial list, but he will spend a majority of the time on the island doing his thing with those wide receivers.

20:11Jourdan Rodrigue:I'm so glad you brought him up because he plays into a massive question I asked myself when I was going over who I was going to argue for and who I was going to sit back on, at least for now. I asked myself this question, who do I trust right now? to not just be on quarterback island, but at the position with the entire collective of the offense. Who do I trust right now? Or who do I not quite trust yet for various reasons? Unfortunately for me, Dak was someone who I don't quite trust yet heading into this season specifically, not because he has a poor body of work. I think that he is, if you're thinking about running an offense and doing all of the little intricacies that you need to do to manipulate coverages and make the throws that you need to make, and he can move a little bit, all those things he's got, but I don't quite trust him quite yet because first of all, the body of work last season's incomplete because of the hammy.

21:04Yeah.

21:05Jourdan Rodrigue:But then also like a gnarly hammy, by the way, like off the bone situation. And then, but also because I have yet to see that they are going to give him a run game, which he will need. Right. And I have yet to actually see this offense together work in a, as a collective, you know, in a real game that matters.

21:25Steve Wyche:That sounds like a no or a table to eat from you. So I'm table. I'm table. I have no problem to it because I think this is worthy of a discussion. Yeah. I have a problem with it. I'm voting him on the island. If you're saying yes, I'm saying yes. That's majority. To me, Dak Prescott deserves to be there. When you ultimately look at this list, I am voting yes. And here's why. It's kind of my argument against Eli Manning taking a stray for the Hall of Fame. Tell me the point of Dak Prescott's career when he's played football. And I know it's not all about rankings, but when I, when I, looked at this list and the question marks.

21:57Steve Wyche:Tell me the point of his career when he was playing football and he wasn't a top 10 quarterback. I agree. He's just that dude. And he's worked in a bunch of different ideas of what that offense can be. Yes.

22:07Jourdan Rodrigue:I am looking at it contextually through the lens of 2025 specifically. Sure. I feel great about him. I really do. I want him on the island. I want it. And I think that it's going to happen. It's just I had to table it because for me it was an incomplete.

22:22Steve Wyche:Well, you had no choice now. We voted him on. I'm just explaining. It's a three-person panel. It's a little different dynamic. Here's why. Have we had it? This is the first Dak Prescott conversation that's been had this summer. Well, we do a daily show, Steve.

22:39Jourdan Rodrigue:God knows people are having the Dak Prescott conversation off of our show. I mean, I know that, but I'm just saying, like, when you watch NFL Network, when you watch ESPN, they're talking about Micah. They're talking about Jerry. Yeah. They're not talking about Dak in this offense. Totally fair. And you know what I'll say is when you think about the situation that they've put themselves in with Micah, your next thought logically is, oh, thank God they still have Dak. You know, thank God they have someone stabilizing the organization in that way.

23:11Steve Wyche:To me, he is. Dak who's getting the$50 million. Right. He doesn't elevate like those first four guys, but I think he is proven in any, with any sort of surroundings that he is elevating in general. And yeah, can I be convinced by one day of practice that I happen to watch at Cowboys camp and just him, him looking all trim and going, throwing bombs down the field. I mean, he throws a beautiful football and he's one of the smartest quarterbacks in the league. He has targets. I just feel good about this. So he is the seventh man on quarterback Island. I'm good with that. I've got a lot of yeses so far.

23:45Steve Wyche:I'm good with it. And just because I like to mix it up a little, I'm actually going to bring up a guy that I don't think is going to make it. I'm going to bring up Drake May. I love that conversation.

23:59Jourdan Rodrigue:You are going to bring up Drake May. What?

24:01Steve Wyche:And I'll say right out, when I ultimately did this list, I thought it was too much of a projection to put him on. So I'm voting no on Drake May. I think he has to show it. I think it's starting from not from scratch because he has experience in the NFL, but it's a little like Trevor Lawrence throwing out that year with Urban Meyer. Obviously went better, I think, for Drake May in his rookie season. But it is a new system that's complicated. I think there's major offensive line questions. I think he can overcome all of that. But I think putting him on as a projection, I don't think he showed enough to give him that much leeway, that much grace when there's all these other quarterbacks that we will get to.

24:41Steve Wyche:that to me have enough of a body of work to say like, all right, you got to earn it, bro. So even though I'm a big believer in Drake May, I'm voting no on Drake May.

24:50Jourdan Rodrigue:I'm voting no on Drake May, mostly for the reasons you're saying. However, I was going to table Drake May to some other conversations, but the no's have it. Yeah. And Greg, I will push back on you just a little bit though. I actually think, I don't think this system will be too complicated. Like I think when I was out at Vikings Patriots, the way that they had to adjust the pressures that Brian Flores was bringing were tough and were really, you weren't going to run the full version or be able to run the full version of your offense regardless against that group. But the way that he and Josh McDaniels sort of navigated that together and totally switched to being patient, like a dink and dunk more offense and really being patient and waiting for the rotations to fail or for coverage breaks because they knew that they would come if, you know, when you're that defense, you're trying to communicate so much, something would happen to give them their opportunity.

25:45Jourdan Rodrigue:I really saw two people who seem like they're clicking so far. Love that.

25:50Steve Wyche:I just want to see where he's at. To me, he's almost like... It's a complicated system. He's almost like a rookie in the sense that I'm really curious what he's going to look like in week 10, week 12. I'm not as worried about if September is a little rocky. It's not going to take that long. It's going to... Look, Drake May, I cover... I had the misfortune and the good fortune of covering in person a couple of Patriots games last year. He's got it, right? You talk about a guy who's not, besides a talent, he's got the tough stuff. He's got the moxie, right? He's the type of dude, when Josh McDaniel starts eyeballing him and gritting on him, he can look right back and be like, let's go, let's figure this out.

26:30If it takes an argument, we can figure this out. He's not going to with him. He's not that guy. To put up what he had to go through last year with that terrible offensive line. They had 10 million guys doing it. No real threats at skilled position and to perform the way he performed. That says a lot, but he's more than a tough guy. I just think he's got some stuff to him. And once they get him more targets, let's see when Stefan Diggs comes back. That offensive line already is better. We've seen Travion Henderson add some electricity to that offense that they have not had.

27:00Jourdan Rodrigue:He might be the number one receiver. It should be better.

27:03Steve Wyche:Am I a little anxious about the constant reports in Patriots camp that the offensive line gets worse by the day that he's getting sacked seven or eight times by both the Patriots, the Vikings. Yes, I am a little concerned. The Vikings are going to get on. The Vikings are going to get on. But even at Patriots practice, like their offensive line throughout has some issues. They're going to be better. We put seven guys on, okay? He's not, yeah, he's a... Drake May is a no right now. And I'm doing the math in my head. He's got time. And it's a little difficult, but I believe we have five spots remaining.

27:38Steve Wyche:Yes. And I believe we have 14 guys who are eligible. There's a couple other slam dunks.

27:46Jourdan Rodrigue:For our listeners, Greg just went cross. It really hurts.

27:50Steve Wyche:We are going to take a quick break and we are going to find out who are the original members of season two.

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31:49Steve Wyche:Back on Quarterback Island. Music's like a little, it's a little more ominous than fun. It should be fun. I feel like we should be outside taking a little break right now. We're bringing up the drama.

32:01Jourdan Rodrigue:I feel a mixture of dread and fun. Okay.

32:04Steve Wyche:The drama. You know, before we get back to the eliminating these men from what could be the greatest moments of their entire career, a couple of things. Number one, I forgot to list Caleb Williams as one of the obvious 10 guys that I wasn't going to put on this list. Like he's just got to prove it in the same way we talked about. Agreed. So he's eliminated. I meant I said 10 people would be eliminated. I forgot to mention Caleb Williams. He could he could get there. Maybe he'd be the guy that lifts from that list. And then I did want to just get your thoughts a little bit on Daniel Jones winning this job, something we predicted here, by the way, on NFL Daily, you know, listening to the Shane Steichen of it all.

32:39Jourdan Rodrigue:When he says we, he means I. Yeah. Greg predicted.

32:42Steve Wyche:He's picking himself in the third person. Nick was there. Nick was there too. He gets a little credit. The reason I wanted to bring it up now is Shane Steichen said, this will not be a short leash. Correct. That Daniel Jones will be the starter for the entire season. My vibe from everything going on in Indianapolis was the coaching staff had lost confidence in Anthony Richardson last season. And that this now looking at it in hindsight was always weighted towards Daniel Jones winning. Because the reality is from everyone that's been there and the preseason games, there wasn't a lot to separate them.

33:21Steve Wyche:They were kind of predictably good and bad where you would expect them to be. But I thought it was interesting said Anthony Richardson is not getting this job back. They asked him if he had a future in Indianapolis. And Shane Stiggen said, that's hard to say. He's going to be our backup. He'll have to go in there if Daniel Jones gets hurt. Makes me wonder if they would ever trade him. I would think now he is available. If you want him, you can have him. That's what I thought. I did reach out, and he gave me permission to say this on the show. Ian Rappaport threw some cold water on that privately, now publicly.

33:55Steve Wyche:To me, that was just his opinion. he thought ultimately like they're trying to win games and they need a backup quarterback and even if you know all the reasons we said they're out on Anthony Richardson is true they need a backup quarterback and and they know that they have to win games this year they just think Daniel Jones

34:10Jourdan Rodrigue:is the guy to do it I am so glad that you brought that up from Ian because to me that puts off all the alarm bells in the world in my head of like okay who would be the one that would have to actually say yes on a trade of Anthony Richardson, Chris Ballard. Who was the person talking to my colleague at the Athletics, Zach Kiefer, being so adamant that they were going to have all the patients in the world with Anthony Richardson coming into this season. And Zach has a good BS meter and in a very believable, convincing way said these things. Chris Ballard, who is the one standing up there at the lectern right now, casting doubt on the future of the player that they previously drafted with the highest pick that they had, Shane Steichen, who is the one who is going out there and picking the guy who is going to run his offense, who he thinks can run his offense the way he specifically wants to in potentially a make or break year for his own job.

35:11Jourdan Rodrigue:Shane Steichen, my red flags going off here, all this to say, I think there's a split forming.

35:16Steve Wyche:Doesn't seem like it's great, does it? We've seen it before, Steve. You've seen it a million times in the NFL when things get really hot. Every man for himself. And a GM and coach are on the firing block.

35:27Jourdan Rodrigue:That's the ominous music right there. Yeah. And look, let's just also keep this real. When they drafted Anthony Richardson, who came out and said he's going to start right away? Jim Irsay. So, you know, Mr. Irsay no longer is with us. So there's a different dynamic in that building as well in terms of who's got complete power. Let's not forget that. And I am with you. I think they lost confidence as soon as Anthony Richardson tapped out last year. Talk about I'm tired. If I'm his teammate, I can't I can't roll with that. If you got a dude saying I'm tapped out, I'm an offensive lineman, get my elbows wrenched and everything to try to protect you.

36:02You're tapping out because you're tired. I don't know if I can rock with you. He played better when he came back from the benching last year. But coming in, this is why I'm saying if a team out there said, you know, we can rescue Dan or rescue Anthony. I think I thought so too, but Ian said no, but I mean, look, this is a coach and Shane Steichen who won seven games at Gardner Minshew.

36:24Jourdan Rodrigue:That's what I'm saying. I'm saying, I don't doubt at all that Shane Steichen would trade him in a second. I agree. Ballard would be the one saying, no, got to make this work. I think if they could find, and there's going to be quarterbacks available when these cuts come down, one might be Kenny Pickett.

36:39Steve Wyche:If you can trade Trent Richardson for a first round pick, if you can trade Josh Rosen for a second round pick, I mean, you could maybe get a conditional fourth to third for Anthony Richardson. Chase Claypool for a second round pick. I was going to say, like, well, maybe there's no one in the league, you know.

36:56Jourdan Rodrigue:There's always an I can fix him. There's always an I can fix him.

36:59Steve Wyche:Right. I was going to say there's no one foolish enough to, like, give up a late second for, like, what Chris Greer and ownership did in Miami back then. I was like, oh, wait, they're still there in Miami. So who knows? I guess. We'll see how long. All right, let's get back to it. I did just want to hit that because that's something we've talked about all offseason. Let's go, Jordan.

37:17Jourdan Rodrigue:Yeah, I had a gut feeling this would be a pretty automatic yes from both of you guys. Really excited to see what he does in year two, but I'm going yes on Jaden Daniels. That slam dunk. Yeah, I kind of forgot to mention him. You would have maybe been the fifth guy on for me. That's a slam dunk for me. We're all holding up our yes signs, and I want to say, too, first of all, so excited to see what he does with continuity at the offensive coordinator spot in Cliff Kingsbury. We talked to Jared Goff how later in your career that doesn't always matter as much, having that continuity. When you are as young as Jaden Daniels is, it can matter to have that same play caller who's there with you developing that rapport.

37:55Jourdan Rodrigue:And everything, I was up at Commander's Camp recently. Everything I saw there, the vibes are immaculate in terms of the love and respect that he commands and has from his teammates, the camaraderie that they have with each other, despite a vast age difference between a lot of those players on the roster. And it's going to be exciting. They're still going to be, you know, helping him out a lot, too, with some of the things that Cliff and Anthony Lynn do in the run game and some of the tight end personnel usage that they use. It's going to be, I think, an exciting and progressing year still for the commanders.

38:27Last year, this time, they're figuring out if he was better in the pistol shotgun or under center. Now they know he functions mainly better under, you know, off off the ball, whether it's pistol or shotgun, but they've got different pieces around him. They know what he can do, but now you've got a new left tackle. You've got a different type of wide receiver in Deebo Samuel. Terry McLaurin, that deal is going to get done at some point. They're changing running backs. Brian Robinson clearly is out of the picture now. They're moving things in a little different direction offensively where they're going to open things up a little bit more.

38:58He's not going to be their leading rusher like he was last year. Defensively, they're going to be better. You see getting Trey Amos at the corner to go with Marshawn Lattimore, who's healthy. They're going to get a few more possessions per game. You know, and defensively, one thing, you know, speaking to Dan Quinn and Joe Witt about, last year on first down, they got tagged. They were in second and fours and stuff all the time where teams were just rolling down the field. So now they built a defensive front that's to stand up on first down.

39:23Jourdan Rodrigue:Johnny Newton getting some pop. Correct. So now they can get guys in second and eight, and they can turn some stuff loose so they can possibly feel they can get at least one extra possession a game.

39:32Steve Wyche:Glad you mentioned Brian Robinson. yeah he didn't play in the preseason game on Monday night and the reporting is indicates that he might no longer be with that team Chris Rodriguez was playing it you know our guy Bill Corey Cross in there all right let's move on because we got a 13 guys still to talk about for for four spots and yeah it's never bad by the way to just see Jaden Daniels doing things scoring a touchdown in preseason just just to get back excited but we have eight guys on the island Jaden Daniels is on the I'm gonna throw another another bomb in here I'm gonna go controversy again because I'm going to stand up for this guy, Bo Nix.

40:03You know I love Bo Nix. It's a tough one. He's right on the border, I think. I know he's on the border because there's some other players. We've got the Stafford's, we've got the Herberts, the guys we have to get to and have a conversation about. Whether we table it or not, I think we need to have a conversation about Bo Nix because we saw him get better and better in Sean Payton's offense. They got him more weapons this year, including a Camara-type running back in the draft. Offensive line is very good. The defense might end up being the best defense in the NFL. That's all stuff that's not in Bo Nix, though.

40:32Steve Wyche:And so that's the question. Is it the quarterback? You can sit there and say that, but what Bo Nix did for them last year, one he showed, besides the athleticism, he's tough as hell. They won games because of Bo Nix. He made plays to win them ballgames in his rookie year playing for Sean Payton. Sean Payton, one thing we've seen about him is he always had veteran quarterbacks. He did with a young guy. Now he's got a guy in his pocket. So we can do all this, and maybe he doesn't make the first iteration of the island, but I think he's in the boat. I think he might. I think he might, and I think this might be something where Broncos fans, be careful what you wish for.

41:09Steve Wyche:Not everyone can handle the heat that comes with quarterback island. Broncos fans have been asking, oh, give us our respect. Give us all this hype. Okay, you're building up the hype, Sean Payton, saying you're a Super Bowl champion. Maybe you get it all. We'll see if he can handle it. I want to table him for now because he's very intriguing. does he define the quarterback position right now? It's like right on the borderline. He swayed me watching him last year.

41:31Jourdan Rodrigue:I think he, we knew he was an old prospect coming out. So like, this is not an old quarterback joke, but like he's beyond his years to me at the position. And some of these second year guys, I mean, he played, you know, it was Jaden Daniels and then Bo Nix at the end of last season, by the end of it. And it was a steady progression by Bo Nix. We did say at the top of this show that we are not going to hold the system around the quarterback against the quarterback. We're going to define the quarterback by what the quarterback is able to do and how the system and the quarterback sometimes fit each other perfectly well.

42:04Jourdan Rodrigue:We're not going to hold that against the quarterback. It's a mutualistic, beneficial partnership between the two. So I think like for me, everything's great around him. They've again, similar to Jared, they found the defining quantity in the math equation for their offense who helps make everything go. And in reverse, that offense helps make him better too.

42:23Steve Wyche:It's just him versus the other guys that are coming up. So I'm going to table him for now. Let's table him. I agree to table him. I think he's worth that discussion. I am a Bo Nix fan.

42:32Jourdan Rodrigue:You, and I will say, Steve argued for Bo Nix last year too. So I remembered the lore. Okay, Nix is tabled.

42:39Steve Wyche:We still have four spots left. I'm trying to think if I want to eliminate guys or put them on. Let's eliminate a couple. Let's eliminate a couple. All right, the two guys at the bottom of my remaining quarterback list that I just think are worth mentioning are Trevor Lawrence and Bryce Young. There's reasons to believe. We've talked a lot about Trevor Lawrence. We hit him on the top 10 offenses show with JP Acosta. That's the last one in your feed. There's reasons to believe it could get better this year. So far, the body of work hasn't been there. Bryce Young loved how he finished last season.

43:09Steve Wyche:To me, it's not enough longevity at a high enough level to really merit serious consideration. But guys that are kind of on our watch list, I vote no on both Bryce and Trevor Lawrence.

43:20Jourdan Rodrigue:I vote no on Bryce Young and Trevor Lawrence. Both of these guys, you guys remember I said, this is the big question I asked myself, who do I not trust yet for various reasons? Trevor Lawrence still, I feel like I've been honking about this year over year at this point. Still don't necessarily know whether he will take the next step. Hopeful that he will believe it's possible. And Bryce Young, hopeful that it's possible, but still haven't seen enough data yet. Yeah. Okay. Can we add some more takeaways, discussion?

43:50Steve Wyche:Do whatever you want. It's your world. Your boy. You're the real island guy here. Your boy. Quarterback for the Las Vegas Raiders. Oh, no. Who I think is going to be fantastic. I just look at the other numbers and I look at his targets.

44:06Jourdan Rodrigue:Did you guys notice how we were like the family at Thanksgiving where it's like we already know the topic that's going to come up at some point that we're going to fight about. We're just not going to bring it up. Let's not bring up the Middle East, Rosenthal. but at the same time, I'm going to go with my boy too, to be excluded. So you're already saying you're out on Gino. And Tua cannot make the initial list. Wow. That doesn't seem to be categorized the same to me. I mean, I'm just saying like Tua is my guy. Yeah. Yeah, that's true. Yeah. And so I just, they seem like they got a little bit more stuff going on in Miami than most teams in the NFL.

44:44I hear that.

44:45Steve Wyche:It's really tricky because I think Tua, has been slighted your guy so much now that he's almost underrated when it when it comes to playing the quarterback position and this is this is also he knows how to do like him and gino both do it at a very high level at best i feel like they're tables for me though i agree that it seems like they're on the outside looking in but i kind of want to hear the arguments for the other guys but if you guys want to vote them off no no no right off the bat do it no let's look at i don't This feels like a trap. You're a trap. There's some landmines right here. You want to get into the landmines?

45:25Okay.

45:26Jourdan Rodrigue:Baker Mayfield, let's talk about it. He's a slam dunk. I actually don't think Baker's a landmine.

45:30Steve Wyche:Yeah, let's vote him on. No, it's to you he's a landmine. No, I'm a yes on Baker Mayfield.

45:36Jourdan Rodrigue:I'm a yes on Baker Mayfield.

45:37Steve Wyche:Yeah, I think here's where my personal rankings, and Jordan told me there was some internet chatter. I stay away from all that. About last week, we did a QB tears with Sando that I was somehow giving away my QB Island thoughts while talking quarterbacks with him. No, QB Island's different. Here's one way it's different. To me, Baker Mayfield clearly is one of the men defining the position right now. Even if I was not starting my franchise with him personally in this year, and maybe I should be compared to some of these guys. He clearly, the body of work, where the bucks are at, what he's done, absolutely.

46:13Jourdan Rodrigue:I think I'm just traumatized, Steve, because all year last year, I feel like I fought Greg viciously about Baker Mayfield and advocating for Baker to be on the island. But, you know, actually, a couple of weeks ago, Greg said congrats to Baker Mayfield on moving past, you know, a certain level in his esteem.

46:32Steve Wyche:And so I was that was on I can fix him. I said he's no longer eligible. So still I can fix him. He's been fixed.

46:39Jourdan Rodrigue:He's still kind of sent him astray, you know, in a little. Here's where the pendulum has swung. Okay, two years ago, wow, Dave Canales got the best out of Baker Mayfield. Last year, Liam Cohen got Baker Mayfield to his greatest year. Kingmaker. Baker Mayfield's the kingmaker. He's got two dudes head coaching job. Yeah, now he's got King Grizzard over there. And I think that this is going to be fun to watch. I know that they're dealing with some even more injuries at the receiver position right now with Jalen McMillan. But that team is so well built. When all systems are go midseason and on, this team's going to start rolling.

47:12Jourdan Rodrigue:I mean it's going to be it's going to be fun to watch the Bucs again and Baker Mayfield is one of the most fun and they've got a culture when we talk about teams with culture we do not talk about them they've got it they step on the field knowing they're going to win and I'm telling you Emeka Abuka could be the offensive rookie of the year

47:27Steve Wyche:I love that love all of it and Baker is the ninth guy onto the island I'm doing the math here if you guys are watching this I'm like counting my brain is hurting we have not mentioned the NFC West quarterbacks at all that's what it's about to wait to do that. So nine guys are on. Three guys have been tabled to a Knicks and Geno for now. To me, there's only one guy left that I would stand on a tiny table. I would stand on a large table and I just feel like is a pretty safe pick for quarterback Island to start and then it gets really hairy and that's Justin Herbert. Now we are kind of in the Herbert season of like show me like I feel like everyone there's a lot of Herbert fatigue out there.

48:11Steve Wyche:And I do get that. That playoff game. It's like, what has he really done? What he has done kind of like Dak, maybe not quite as consistent as I think provide a real advantage on a play to play game to game basis overall that to me, he still deserves. And maybe it's towards the back of this quarterback island right now when he used to be a little higher up. But to me, he does deserve to be on. What do you guys think? I'm voting yes. I'm a Justin Herbert guy. Okay. So you vote yes. We're talking about the epitome of playing the position. He's on. He's on. So we've got 10. Yeah.

48:41Jourdan Rodrigue:I'm voting yes. And I also want to point out last year, he didn't make it on the first iteration of quarterback island because he was injured. So we, he was disqualified. Your rule. That was a rule you made on the fly. Yeah. Well, no, it was a rule we came in with. Certain other people made rules.

48:52Steve Wyche:There was a lot of rules on the fly. Yes. If you're curious and you're, you're fans of the infamous ripcord, riptide. Yeah. Nobody even knows the name. What is it?

49:03Jourdan Rodrigue:It was the riptide, but ripcord got more pop.

49:06Steve Wyche:It makes more sense. From our listeners. Because it's like a cord pulling you off. We want to stay away from riptide. We can't use that on this show. That's in a future show. Each one of us, and Colleen is included too, she's going to usually be on Quarterback Island. But like I said, she's on the beach right now. You can use the ripcord to what, Jordan?

49:23Jourdan Rodrigue:To without a vote. Yes. To immediately yank somebody off the island. Yes, it's the hook. Which then leads to you presenting your candidate. That still has to be voted on. Okay. The reason why this was a big controversy last year with quarterback Island is because Greg used the rip cord, which was at that point called the riptide and then changed the name. Okay. It's good. It's a better name, Greg. And then he put he used it not to take someone off. He used it to put someone on. With no vote. With no vote.

49:54Steve Wyche:If a rule is so confusing that no one there even knows the difference between the rules. It's it's you know, you got to be questioning. it. I feel like I'm being gaslit right now.

50:05Jourdan Rodrigue:You kind of are.

50:06Steve Wyche:Okay. You mentioned injuries then. Let's get into it. I will throw out Stafford because he's one of the most difficult discussions right now. Now, rumors, and I know you're tied in to the Rams, but this is not from Jordan Rodrigue. I talk to people too. There are rumors that Stafford got wind that were taping quarterback Island this week. And he says, get me out there, Sean. He He's not what he's not what me up there, Sean. I need to get let me out of the immortal chamber. I got to get out there and at least show that I could be ready for week one and get on. Because you guys might remember we were about to yank him off at one point last season.

50:46Steve Wyche:And then he like showed up in some primetime game right before the vote. And he was awesome. And he stuck himself up. So it means a lot to Stafford. It means a lot to Stafford. I don't know what to think. He was on mine. Like, I wanted to see what you guys said.

50:58Jourdan Rodrigue:In all fairness, and yes, I am the Matthew Stafford person on this show. I get that. But he actually falls into the same exact category of the big question I ask myself. Can I trust this guy right now? The answer for me was no. Because he has not been on the field.

51:16Steve Wyche:For Herbert last year, you mean. A full. Like the injury-wise.

51:19Jourdan Rodrigue:No, no, no. I've been talking about it all show, Greg. Greg's just doing math in his head. He's not listening. is that the group of players who I was on the fence about, and I asked myself this question, do I trust them to run this team to be available? Some of it was injury related. Some of it was just inconsistencies or incomplete bodies of data last year. Right now for me, do I trust Matthew Stafford right now to open up the island? No, because if he plays like how he finished last season, great. but he wasn't dealing with an aggravated disc last season. And even though he's back on the field, so I wouldn't disqualify him for an injury because he is back on the field practicing.

52:02Jourdan Rodrigue:I just, I don't trust it yet. And it's only been two days in the season starts in two and a half, three weeks. That's why I think. Again, I'm willing to table Stafford. I think he opens week one, but my thing with him is getting through 18, getting through 18 weeks. That's the trust. This is starting to sound like a no.

52:21Steve Wyche:Cause I was, I was thinking about it because I'm easily swayed by the latest thing I've heard. And Sean McVay saying on Tuesday, he looked better even than he looked on Monday. I'm like, OK, all right, we're feeling better about this. I think Stafford's going to be fine in the open of the season. It's just once that wear and tear. OK, and we do want guys. It's important for guys on the island. We don't want injured guys on the island.

52:40Jourdan Rodrigue:And that's why he was a no for me. Not necessarily because of the injury, but because I couldn't trust it.

52:46Steve Wyche:No, just because I'm a Stafford dude. But OK, so he's off. first mild surprise, at least to me. I was actually thinking he might get on. So we have two spots left, by the way. Okay. We haven't talked to NFC West much at all. We haven't talked to NFC West, but I want to depart from there because there's another quarterback who I'm not settled on yet, and that's Jordan Love.

53:08Jourdan Rodrigue:Yeah. He's a guy who's just so talented. We saw him last year. He did it, but he just... Right now, he's got the thumb thing. He's, you know, I think he's going to be fine. he's practicing I'm not considering that it's not the injury thing and I think they've got some players who look really the rookie wide receiver looks like the freaking dude there but I look at the other guys that are left and I'm kind of like I like Jordan Love in his circumstance more than I like a lot of these other guys circumstance circumstance, you know,

53:49Steve Wyche:but do you like the quarterback on it? And talk about trust. Like I like him, but man, you're not exactly sure what you're going to get.

53:55Jourdan Rodrigue:That's exactly why I put him in my, my large trust bucket.

53:58Steve Wyche:Are we going to vote on Jordan love? Are we just going to table him? I want a table. Okay. So we're going to table. Okay. I actually think there's two guys that aren't that close to making it to the island. I am too. I know you're going to go for me. Let's go ahead. They are both in the NFC West. I'm with you. Like, like I was saying, and there's two spots left on quarterback island, but we still have some more guys to talk about. It's Kyler and it's Sam Darnold. And Sam Darnold, one of the biggest upsets, one of the greatest achievements of his entire career, he finished season one of quarterback island on the ice.

54:31Steve Wyche:As he should have. Never would have guessed it. Now has he...

54:34Jourdan Rodrigue:And then the playoffs happen.

54:36Steve Wyche:Yeah, then the playoffs happen. Has he proven it year after year? He's in a different system. Does he help define the position right now? Both him and Kyler Murray are both intriguing. I think they could get there in the end. It's hard for me to pick those two guys, even over the ones that we've tabled so far. There's no way I can put them in there. I mean, Kyler, we just don't know. He's a fun player to watch, but he's been in this league for a little while. Yep. And we're still kind of asking, what exactly is he? Yeah. Early in his career, he elevated them. Has he been able to do it? Is it his fault?

55:11You just don't know. And Sam Darnold, I'm not even judging last year. I'm just looking at the circumstance this year. He's got one proven receiver in Jackson Smith and Jigba, Cooper Cup, but again, how long is Cooper going to be on the field? They're going to run the football. This is going to be a different team than he played last year with Justin Jefferson and Jordan Adderson and TJ Hawkinson. So I think he's got the potential to get on, but starting, that's a new.

55:39Jourdan Rodrigue:Yeah, I put both of those guys in my guys I don't trust yet for various reasons, Bucket. Not in the bucket. They are in the bucket. They're in the guys I don't trust. Don't trust Bucket. For various, the don't trust Bucket. And so along with the Staffords, along with even CJ Stroud I have in there, along with, I said I had Dak in there earlier. Those guys all are in the same bucket. With Sam Darnold, it's, okay, I think they're going to run the ball really well this year. I do think that. Can they pass protect still? That's still my question for them with this offensive line. They've showed a lot of promise so far in the preseason.

56:13Jourdan Rodrigue:But I have questions about that. I have questions about the sustainability overall, week over week over week, deep into the season after the Kubiak offense sputtered out in New Orleans last year. I have questions. A whole lot more sputtered out than just the offense. I have questions about Kyler for all of these reasons that Steve mentioned. So yeah, I don't necessarily trust those guys yet. So I'm not putting them on.

56:38Steve Wyche:I'm really excited to see both of them this year. I think Seattle's going to be a really good team. I think they're going to end up being really good. We just don't know when you look at him. Darnold can take his career to a totally different level. Become a guy that's going to be a starting quarterback for a long time. He has to do it again. And then Kyler, this is really his last chance saloon. So it's a nose all around for Kyler and Darnold. We've been relatively efficient. Like I mentioned, two spots are remaining.

57:07Jourdan Rodrigue:It's always time to derail.

57:08Steve Wyche:We've tabled four guys, Bo Nix, Geno, Love, and Tua. And there's only two players we have not discussed. You just mentioned one of them. It's CJ Stroud. That's a hard one for me. He was the hardest one for me.

57:23Jourdan Rodrigue:Me too.

57:24Steve Wyche:I'll say, like, what is this list exactly? Because, you know, CJ Stroud was the guy who illuminated that question more than anyone. because to me, do I believe that he plays football at a level that deserves to be on this list? Yes, I do. Yep. If I was starting my team, yes, I do. Do I think he kind of defines a position in a way that just like, yeah, like I think he's got it for, he's got a lot of pop. He's got it for lack of a better word, but he is coming off a pretty rough season. And am I only basing it off one rookie year? Him versus Knicks to me is an interesting question. Like they both statistically had two of the better rookie seasons that we've seen.

58:10Steve Wyche:Stroud was another level, frankly, but they, they both were really good. So like those guys versus each other, Stroud versus a love, for instance, like it, I don't have the, the answer.

58:20Jourdan Rodrigue:For me, I would put Stroud in there over Jordan love, not because I think that either of them lack different potential. I don't, I'm not trying to use it as sort of a negative quantification of anybody. I just think that if I'm building a franchise around a quarterback, CJ Stroud to me separates a little bit in that conversation. Now I will say he is also in my guys. I don't trust yet just this for this season for various reasons, because of how catastrophic last year went for him. Not just not really because of what he specifically was doing, but because of how everything fell apart around him and it got so bad.

59:00Jourdan Rodrigue:and I just think that when you have chaos or tumultuous circumstances around you in the similar ways Jordan Love kind of has had with his receivers room for example then I think that it's really tough between those guys and I have him I couldn't decide on CJ Stroud I just had him in this trust bucket section. I've decided because of when I go back and something I said about some of the guys you said earlier and about Jalen Hurts and guys like this I think CJ Stroud's the type of quarterback where you can put him in almost any scheme with any coach and he's going to be the guy to lead your team.

59:37Last year they did have chaos. They had injuries like Matt. Offensive line was terrible. Clearly there was some disconnect between the OC, the O-line coach.

59:46Jourdan Rodrigue:And then they lost Mixon. Yeah. But that's the issue. But you're a yes. So I'm a yes, but like you look at it this year, they got lost to Mixon again. They've got wide receiver concerns. They've got O-line concerns. But I'm going to say when I look at the rest of the guys on here, circumstance and everything on here, I think C.J. Stroud is still a quarterback who I would say I believe in C.J. Stroud. I do too, but I would ask you this because this is going to be the question we're going to have to ask here in a second. You might have to be deciding to put C.J. Stroud on over Gino, which I know based on your previous year that you would, but that's going to be the thing that might come up.

1:00:31Jourdan Rodrigue:And also CJ Stroud potentially, depending on how the rest of the debate goes, potentially over Bo Nix. I would put CJ Stroud over Bo Nix right now. Then that tells me everything. To me, Steve is a yes on CJ Stroud.

1:00:43Steve Wyche:I'm going to table him right now. And just see, because we haven't gotten to Brock Purdy yet. We have two spots left. We've tabled five guys. I think let's determine the final two spots of QB Island after the break.

1:00:59Jourdan Rodrigue:All right.

1:01:01Steve Wyche:Will there be backroom dealings while it's not recording?

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1:04:55Steve Wyche:Back on NFL Daily. No one accepted my bribes.

1:04:59Jourdan Rodrigue:Is anyone else sweaty?

1:05:01Steve Wyche:Yes, it is hot here. This is like, this is tense, man. This is like coming up on the final episode. Weiss and Jordan, their morals, their integrity are pristine. They're intact right now. Yeah. Don't worry. So we've tabled five guys, by the way. Tua, Jordan Love, CJ Stroud, Gino, and Nix. We haven't talked. Ooh. Purdy. Ooh. I tabled Stroud in part because, and I think we're at the point where we need to just put our cards on the table. Ooh. I think Purdy's the one I feel the strongest should be on the island of everyone remaining. And I know I've been on a journey with Purdy. And part of the reason is...

1:05:40Steve Wyche:I'm a big Brock guy. His season last year had a lot of CJ Stroud's season to it. I think he proved to me last season that he can elevate. His number is still top 10 and all the advanced stats and all that sort of stuff. But more importantly, it was the eye test. I think his situation was better than CJ's, for instance. but his history now that he played well enough to win a super bowl that he played his absolute best when they absolutely needed it trailing in those playoff games. And then he has a little longer of a track record of all these guys remaining. I think he's the guy that I feel the strongest should be a yes.

1:06:19Steve Wyche:So that's why I wanted a table CJ for now. And I say yes on Brock. It's a yes.

1:06:26Jourdan Rodrigue:Oh, wow.

1:06:26Steve Wyche:We got a unanimous this late in the game.

1:06:29Jourdan Rodrigue:I have to tell you though, It is a very well-documented... At some point, I'm going to bribe Eric to make a supercut of your journey through. Because as a player improves... What I really like about your journey, tumultuous at times with Brock Purdy, as it has been, as a player improves and shows that he can do different things, you have also evolved and adjusted your evaluation of said player.

1:06:56Steve Wyche:well also I might have been like wrong for a lot of the time too that I wasn't seeing enough of the things that were there of course I mean it's happened with a lot of people with Josh Allen we went through it on the Old Around podcast Chris Wessling was always in in in on Josh Allen and I was not and like ultimately I just didn't see it right well I think a lot of people with Justin Herbert like oh gee what and you know when we live in LA so we get to see a lot of Justin Herbert and it's like that dude put him on to put him on any other team, put him on any team for the most part. He's going to be pretty darn good.

1:07:29Jourdan Rodrigue:Yeah. And to your point, Greg, the, the way that he showcased making a range of different kinds of throws, having to be the person who lifted the floor of that offense at times last year with all the injuries that they went through, um, though that is, and, and the fact that he is clearly one of their, so to speak, weight bearing walls of trying to develop this roster forward this year. I think all of those things are in his favor. And yeah, I do think he belongs on the island.

1:07:57Steve Wyche:Plus he was in the original graphic with Josh Allen, CJ Mahomes, Kyler is in there, and Jalen Hurts. So that's just a little bit of a plus for him. So wow, he is on there. And he's got Christian McCaffrey back this year. He is on there, which means there's only one spot remaining for five players. Now you essentially said no to Gino and Tua way back in the show, and we tabled him because I just wanted to see where we were at. At this point, I'm not making the fight for either of those guys personally and so I will join you on the nose for Gino I think Gino's closer than some of these other guys but ultimately I'm not I'm not if it was a little bigger of an island I would do it but I don't think he's defined so we've got Jordan Love, Stroud

1:08:40Jourdan Rodrigue:Stafford

1:08:40Steve Wyche:I am sad, that's a no, I don't know if you were a yes or a no on those two guys too

1:08:44Jourdan Rodrigue:I'm a no on both of them but I do want to push back just a little bit because actually Greg I think that there's a lot of questions about Gino right now, moving to a different team. Obviously it's a team that really wanted him badly and a great fit with the coaching staff there and all of that. And so, but the questions that have sort of circulated as I think they tend to do with quarterbacks who move into different environments, whether it's a new regime coming into their old spot or for whatever reason, but I got to say watching him and Brock Bowers and Ashton Janty, I think we're going to be voting him back on very, very soon.

1:09:19Jourdan Rodrigue:Good.

1:09:19Steve Wyche:Preach. I mean, that, what am I doing here? I'm taking Gino off the final Island. I know. And this is just a projection because I'm actually shocked that Greg went

1:09:28Jourdan Rodrigue:this direction. Well,

1:09:28Steve Wyche:because I look at him versus Stroud and Nick specifically. And for how I think about the Island, for some reason, I think they, they deserve it more. So he would be my next guy after those two. Here's, here's where I think he's going to be challenged. We're going to find out if Gino is really that guy. He's going to be playing from behind a lot more than he had to play from behind in Seattle. The Raiders defense is still going to get gashed, right? They're still going to get tagged playing in that division. He's going to have to put up some numbers for them to win ball games. He wasn't necessarily asked to do that in Seattle because at times he was, but that defense was pretty good.

1:10:05We saw Geno when he's having to play toe-to-toe or with a lead. That's why I think he's going to be a little bit challenging. Like Stroud's got a defense that's going to keep them in games every week. Bo Nix has a defense that's going to keep them in games every week. So they might not have to show themselves as much as Geno. If I'm using that as the barometer. That's just something we have to see when we come back to that. Oh, yeah.

1:10:23Steve Wyche:You don't think Geno Nation is watching the Seahawks suddenly have a cohesive offensive line and running game and be like, you couldn't have done that? You couldn't have made him a little more quarterback friendly back then?

1:10:34Jourdan Rodrigue:We also don't have like an old guy badass on the island yet.

1:10:38Steve Wyche:Oh, that's a good point.

1:10:39Jourdan Rodrigue:Just to play devil's advocate. It's weird that Geno is the old guy now. Is this a Stafford argument? No.

1:10:47Steve Wyche:It's weird to think of Geno as the... I don't trust him. How old is he? 34 years old now? Wow. Okay. It's down to three guys. And here's the thing about Jordan Love. As much as I love watching him play, I don't feel like there's enough support. Like, maybe it's Steve, but of these three guys, Nick, Stroud, and Love, I find Love to be the harder argument, even though I think he's great. Yeah. When he's healthy and he's on, I mean, he's special. But again, when we look at these three. I would have him behind Geno for what it's worth, too. Jordan Love. We have no on Jordan Love compared to these two guys.

1:11:25Steve Wyche:I would say so. I'm a no.

1:11:27Jourdan Rodrigue:I'm a no on him, but man, the highs are so high with that guy. Yeah, he looks.

1:11:31Steve Wyche:He's a fun guy. If I was just drafting quarterbacks to move forward, I'd have him above all these guys except for Stroud.

1:11:39Jourdan Rodrigue:Yeah, well, that was what I was saying. That was what caught me mentally. That was so hard because I was really just comping those two together. I mean, either way, you're in a great spot as an organization. with either one of those guys. But for me, CJ Stroud just had the edge slightly there. So we're down to Stroud and Bo Nix, right?

1:11:54Steve Wyche:There can only be one. That's easy. And what is it? CJ Stroud. I think it's CJ Stroud too, but Broncos Nation, I kind of want to... He's got time. Bo's got time to get back in there. We're yeses all around on CJ Stroud. He is the final member of Quarterback Island 2025. Here we go. At least the first one. You know, we got to give Bo Nix something to fight for. something to be hungry you can't get it all before the season even starts the broncos fan uh they want it all oh you're not you're not pumping us up enough say that they're the best team that's ever been made now okay when we come back we're 13th or 14 we come back we five or week six to do this again which one of the guys who didn't get on well see i don't like to think that let's project oh who didn't get on i thought you were gonna say that is on that is most likely did not get on who's gonna be the big threat will it be gino will it be bo nicks will it be Stafford.

1:12:49Steve Wyche:Now, Bo Nix has a lot of organizational support that I think, and he's going to grow in that system, and they could be a really great team. Bo Nix. Yeah, that's going to help his case, I believe. Jordan Love, to me, is the most talented guy.

1:13:05Jourdan Rodrigue:Jordan Love's ceiling is the highest of any of those guys.

1:13:08Steve Wyche:He's the most likely to be in a, hey, NFL.com is listing their top four MVP candidates after week four. If any of the guys not on the QB Island list, He's the most likely to be on that. Don't you think?

1:13:21Jourdan Rodrigue:Yeah. Yeah. His ceiling, like I said, his ceiling is the highest of anyone remaining. I think there's a good argument that because I'm thinking about how Sean McVay offenses have historically gone to start the season when he does have the health of the quarterback, it could, you know, Stafford could make a case. Gino, I think, still will make a case by the time we reconvene. But if I were going to say who would be on it if we revoted all things equal, if we've revoted 10 times, Bo Nix might get the vote five times out of that 10. Yeah, I mean, wow.

1:13:54Steve Wyche:I don't smoke, but I feel like I need a cigarette, you know? Yeah, that's kind of wow. I don't support that. I don't even really drink much, but I need a drink, you know, just the whole thing. I need a gummy. Because like I said, because Gino, I mean, I don't think the Raiders defense is going to be that great, but if Gino can come up here and make some plays to save the day, to me, he's got more of an opportunity to be a hero than a lot of these. And honestly, among everyone, both him and Darnold have the most to be angry about in the sense that like we are writing Gino off. Will he write back?

1:14:26Steve Wyche:You know, Sam Darnold and Gino Smith finished last season on Quarterback Island. Yeah, whether legal or not. They believe that, you know, they were an important part in elevating this franchise to the point where we got picked up for season two. and this hasn't been publicly discussed, but we all got huge pay bombs because it's quarterback island.

1:14:47Jourdan Rodrigue:I got a question. Sorry, bad joke that's not true.

1:14:49Steve Wyche:I've heard he got a huge pay bomb. Bad joke that's not true.

1:14:52Jourdan Rodrigue:I have a question for you guys, though, actually, before we wrap. Of the guys who for sure are not on the island, let's say you have to pick one of those guys to build the next season, at least not the long-term future. You already said it. You already said it. Jordan, Michael Penix. Well, I'm saying like the guys that we voted that we voted that are not off, not the sort of like unproven guys yet. You know, like I wouldn't say you could pick JJ. I'm saying pick between like Flacco, Rogers. Oh, you're talking about deep, deep.

1:15:20Steve Wyche:We answered that. Yeah, I think it's Rogers. You say Rogers, I say Caleb. Way deep. Deep cut. Maybe it's because it's what I fear the most. But ultimately, he didn't make not the most in my life. That's my mortality. But we've been through that.

1:15:35Jourdan Rodrigue:A lot of death talk so far. NFL daily season.

1:15:39Steve Wyche:These 12 men are breathing life into Quarterback Island. We are saying goodbye. We will be back in the feed with 40s and free agents next. We switched up the order and later in the week, but more importantly, we'll be back on Quarterback Island throughout the season. It's a quarterly decision of who gets to stay. Bring the sunblock. Bring the sunblock. And I'm looking forward to the regular season because we've got more Steve Weiss in the studio now that we're at the big time. Do it. The members of Quarterback Island, once again, Lamar Jackson, Joe Burrow, Josh Allen, Patrick Mahomes, Jared Goff, Jalen Hurts, Jaden Daniels, Dak Prescott, Baker Mayfield, Justin Herbert, Brock Purdy, and the last one, CJ Stroud.

1:16:26Steve Wyche:Don't let us down. You've been given a huge responsibility.

1:16:30Jourdan Rodrigue:I think we nailed that.

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