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20:26Will Gavin:I was thinking, playing it on the show. I'm like, that's a step too far, but it'd be like Travis Etienne. So I, you know, as a man who had a friend, Nadir Ajlani that grew up, I believe in Lafayette. I had a couple people that I knew from that area. Bro Bridge was another one. If you're a real Cajun and you're from the 337, and that's the area, they're different. I mean, they're among the most different that you'll find in the United States of America, and they will let you know how they're different. So I just want to honor them right now. Shout out to Travis Etienne.

20:59Jourdan Rodrigue:You strike me as a man who maybe would be a St. Etienne fan, the band, or maybe an A.S. St. Etienne fan, the South of France football team. We've always known it was pronounced wrong. We just assumed it was an Americanism. We just kind of got along with it. I actually, funny Dave Hellman story while we're doing a show that's just firing around and all over the place. I'm a big fan of their show. The athletic football show is excellent. I would say the two shows I listen to most. I'll forgive you for that. I would say the two I listen to most in a week are yours and his, but I'd never watched their show before.

21:32Jourdan Rodrigue:Super Bowl week, we went to the Fanjul party where Green Day were playing. Jordan talked about it on your show where he said that she said that she was amazed I still have my voice on Sunday. Thanks for calling me out on an internationally famous podcast, Jordan, for my professionalism. But I watched their live draft, their live free agency coverage this week and I saw them and I went, I recognize that guy. Why do I recognize that guy? And it turns out that at Green Day, I was introduced to a guy called Dave. and i had no idea it was dave hellman and i had had quite a few cocktails and so the first time i met dave hellman he saw me dance around like an idiot and sing at the top of my voice uh and i never realized it was this guy whose podcast i've been listening to for like the last two years so yeah that's the kind of fun you get on super bowl week when you are a misbehaving brit that that's

22:24Will Gavin:awesome uh great great guy i met him a couple times at some uh some mina kai'm suarez uh he's He's part of a power couple, NFL power couple. Let's take a break. His bride or bride-to-be, Carmen Vitale, has done great work. Let's take a break. We're going to come back, and we're going to do our segment. Some big roster concerns after this first wave.

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26:20Will Gavin:Back on NFL Daily, still getting used to a world where Mike Evans is a 49er. Kyler Murray is a Viking. Malik Willis is going to be starting games all season for the Dolphins. I'm really excited. So the depth charts aren't finalized. We got the draft coming up. We've got some key guys still available. There's about 25 guys in my top one-on-one still available. most at the back end, but some useful players. But right now, it's going to be time for the off-season ride-along presented by Toyota. And what this is going to be, Will, is just going back and forth quickly. I'm just looking at the depth charts right now and wondering what's going on with a couple of these kind of holes on the depth chart.

27:06Will Gavin:You never want to enter the draft just desperate. So give me one to start that you think is a concern.

27:12Jourdan Rodrigue:Okay, so I'll pick the only team who didn't sign an external free agent so far this year. The Denver Broncos. They went to an AFC Championship game. Everyone says that if Bo Nix had been in that game, maybe they beat the Patriots. Maybe they're in the Super Bowl. But so far, their moves have involved re-signing J.K. Dobbins and not really doing much else. And they are desperate for some juice. They need a major talent upgrade in terms of their weapons. courtland's certain entering his age 31 season evan engram less than 500 yards like i i last year they were second in drops in the nfl fifth worst in receiving yards by tight ends bottom half of the league in terms of rushing yards by running backs if there is a team who are desperate for weapons this offseason i think it's the denver broncos yeah that's a good one

28:00Will Gavin:and i like the word just weapons as a catch-all because i i you know what i did it wasn't too complicated. It just went on hour lads, did the all depth charts thing, looked at some of the better teams. And in the end, I kind of scrolled past Denver because I was like, well, they're just the same team as they were a year ago. No one looks more similar, and they're solid, but you're right. They need just more juice, which is why they would be a fun combo for Adrian. While we're on weapons, then, I'm going to throw out the Ravens. Center right now is just wide open, but also just weapons. We're really going to do this again, where Rashad Bateman is the wide receiver, too.

28:35Will Gavin:And we don't really have a three. And Isaiah likely is gone. So that's just a little more juice there. Charlie Kolar, who was like a blocking weapon, is gone. Linderbaum, who was a running game weapon, is gone. So I'm stretching the definition. I don't think they're done. They're a team that's been excellent with late signings, like the Chargers might wind up doing. That helps play the comp pick formula. And so it wouldn't surprise me if they're in the trade market. It wouldn't surprise me if they were a Stefan Diggs team. but just like right now they they seem very incomplete up front and and in terms of the

29:10Jourdan Rodrigue:weapons yeah i think like the weapons and tight end obviously being a key part of that but also just uh with the interior of that line all the focus is on tyler lindabum i know they went and got uh john simpson but daniel filelle going out of the the door as well they're gonna want to keep running the ball a huge amount you'd imagine they're gonna want to keep using lamar jackson in that fashion i just i do worry about teams getting interior pressure on them and i do think that like that could end up being the side of the ball that they really do struggle on

29:39Will Gavin:also they lost max crosby good player yeah well there you go kind of it really i mean supposedly they're trying to sign them both that we had trey

29:49Jourdan Rodrigue:hendrickson apparently said that he was expecting them both to be there and there was definitely no pivot there it was not a pivot it was a we try we wanted both desperately wanted both by the way

29:58Will Gavin:Max Crosby said that, told the Raiders that you are going to get 200 % of Max Crosby and that he will absolutely be ready for week one. And that Gerald McCoy said he spoke to him directly and that they've awoken a beast. To which I say, like, I feel like he was pretty beastly before and he was working really hard before. Is it really going to be that much different? All right, give me another one.

30:21Jourdan Rodrigue:I'd quite like them to work him less hard, to be honest. I'd quite like him to not be on the field for every single down. I had a kind of similar one, and it's something you mentioned earlier about the Chargers, similar one to my first one, but different in terms of position. And actually, James Gladstone spoke yesterday about, for the Jaguars, that they are being cap conscious and that they are thinking about those comp picks and that's how they are approaching this offseason. They don't want to do anything splashy. But I saw what that defense looked like when Devin Lloyd went out. when the Rams came and played them in London and he missed that game and then the following two or three afterwards.

30:58Jourdan Rodrigue:I know that he's got a little bit of that situation we saw with Roquan Swift and Patrick Queen about him, where maybe Devin Lloyd was elevated by Foye Luakon, but they struggled without two guys in the middle who could really be difference makers. And Devin Lloyd obviously was a huge, huge difference maker in terms of the turnovers, in terms of the bullhawking. So I do think like they're back seven. I'd like another corner there as well. Travis Hunter is probably going to play most snaps at corner. That's what Liam Cohen told us in San Francisco. But yeah, I do think their back seven and particularly linebacker looks like a real gaping hole to me.

31:34Will Gavin:Yeah, they have four picks in the top 100, but they're all 56 to 100. They have three third round picks. They have two regular ones, one they got from the Lions and then a comp pick, you know, because they made that Travis Hunter trade. and I have thought about that too, Will, that like, well, if you trade Brian Thomas Jr., one thing now is you kind of are counting on Travis Hunter at cornerback, so you're not really counting on Travis Hunter to fill that in. And so, yes, in the back end, I'm with you. They could use a little more juice. But I do get team life cycles that they pushed pretty hard in their first offseason, and they don't have much cap space this season because of some older contracts, and they're probably looking ahead.

32:14Will Gavin:It is okay to kind of go back and forth each year, and this year maybe was never shaping up for them to be super aggressive. I like it. I'm going to go to the Lions edge position. You could have gone left tackle too. I had already kind of mentioned that on the show, so I wanted to get different. These are the edge two and edge three on the Lions right now. We know who edge one is. It's one of the best players in the league. Their edge two is a man named Ahmad Hassanin. who was a sixth-round pick from a year ago, and then Tyler Lacey, who was one of those future contract picks. They don't really have any edges other than Aiden Hutchinson.

32:55Will Gavin:Obviously, they're going to get some. They're a candidate for some of these guys that are kicking around in free agency, like Joey Bosa or Cam Jordan, Jadavenian Clowney. There's a bunch of these veteran types, and I'm sure the Lions are going to sign at least one. I'm sure they're going to draft one too. but you know you have like like you need four edges and they they kind of made this team build at the beginning around just like line play line play line play and yet right now they basically don't have any edges and they don't have a left tackle i when i first started putting this list

33:28Jourdan Rodrigue:together i did the same thing as you and went through our lads and went through and and the number of teams i had as a edge one or edge two down yeah i almost ended up being like i almost don't want to do it because otherwise i'm just going to end up having the same conversation and naming the same four players over and over again. But like the whole of the AFC East need an edge seemingly. I think I had 10, 12 teams plus who that was for me their most pressing need. But that is, they are a prime example of them. And like the Bills are the other one that I really had down as edge. And I think like wasn't necessarily because I just, I can't buy, as much as Bradley Chubb played 17 games last year coming off the ACL and had eight and a half sacks, He just didn't look like he had the same get-off, didn't look like he had the same speed.

34:11Jourdan Rodrigue:And it felt like the Bills, yet again, paying an aging pass rusher who's probably on that one contract beyond where they actually want to pay him. Because they're always picking too late to go and find their own. And I get that, you know, they move on from Bosa, they move on from AJ Epinesa. But they need somebody really with some juice. That wasn't going to be one of mine. But just when you started talking about edge rusher, it reminded me how much that deal just didn't make sense to me.

34:35Will Gavin:Well, those two guys are out there, and they're actually two of the highest-ranked players I have left, Bosa and Epinesa. Hasan Reddick is still out there. These guys aren't going to change your lives, but they're good pickups for one year. Kyle Van Nooy is out there, kind of a different type of edge. So there are some players. And yeah, I guess let's just stay with the theme. The Bears, I feel like, could really use a Bosa or an Epinesa. And they feel like they're a little out of, according to Adam Schefter, uh they're out of cash like they are not going to get back in the max crosby sweepstakes because you know they spent their cap space they maybe spent their cash according to him and but they would be a good team for one of these hired guns like a reddick or a bosa because that was to me their biggest issue on the team to end last year was the total lack of a pass rush and they've done nothing right am i missing something have they done anything in terms of the pass rush no you're

35:32Jourdan Rodrigue:absolutely spot on and and actually it's interesting i um because i when you started to name those guys and you mentioned to me pre-show you might ask me a little bit about the 49ers i think seeing bryce huff deciding that he's gonna retire to go and protect from lithium battery fires like the most kind of bizarre reason for retiring i've ever seen but a huge fan of it and definitely no jokes about power stations flowing around a little bit can you explain that so you You told me you haven't watched the full like eight minute long video that you put out after he said that he could. It was too long to put in the note.

36:08Jourdan Rodrigue:He has designed a protection system which is going to protect against fires caused by lithium batteries. I don't know the science behind it, but he's 27 years old and decided that with two years still left on his deal with the 49ers, he doesn't want to come back. So I think they're a sneaky one that even though they brought in Osa Adikizua to get that pressure up the middle and to try and provide a bit more juice on that line. I think look to them to once there are the last two or three of those guys floating around, if they can get someone for sub 10 million for the year, then I think they definitely will push.

36:41Jourdan Rodrigue:Well, we know who one of those guys.

36:43Will Gavin:Right. Come on.

36:44Jourdan Rodrigue:We haven't thought that last year, though, and it didn't happen.

36:45Will Gavin:So make the 49ers great again. The Boses on the edges.

36:51Jourdan Rodrigue:No comment. how are we feeling in general i want to get back i want to get back into your country uh and i don't want them to take my visa away so i'm not going to buy on that in any way shape or form how are we

37:02Will Gavin:feeling about the 49ers post post mike evans and odigie zua you know we hit that but that happened like right before we started to do the show it was a fascinating trade and i think a really good trade for the 49ers i know they lost out on jonathan franklin myers and i know you'd love to have that third round pick but just in terms of the player i'd rather have osa odigizu yeah 100 and i don't

37:26Jourdan Rodrigue:hugely get it from a cowboys perspective i understand that the theory is that christian parker's coming in and it's going to be a completely adjusted system and he's going to move to three four and i don't think he fits as a kind of nose in that situation but for me he is the right age and has the right skill set arm length everything else that actually i think he could be trained into that position whereas for me it's much more jerry jones has gone well i don't want to admit that the guy that i got coming over as part of the micah parsons trade isn't the guy i want i'm not going to get rid of kenny clark so i've got to get rid of one of these tackles to make some space and like you say the pick is semi-rich but i think probably about the right price and i absolutely love it i honestly the only one that i haven't got super super excited about is the Dre Greenlaw situation just because I want to see exactly what the real money is seven and a half million feels like a lot for a guy who's come off those those two injuries the one with the 49ers and then last year missing time as well with with Denver um if that's actually more like a three four million dollar deal with incentives I'm in I think it's a great great move for them but Mike Evans and Osiru Degizua both of them had me truly excited about a free agent signing like I haven't been in a long time Mike Evans just what he does over the middle of the field suits the Shanahan system so much they haven't had a proper X receiver in that system for so long and Purdy loves to throw over that area of the field he will enjoy having a big body who can win at the point um I'm trying to remember who it was who put this out there but uh no quarterback in the last 20 years has completed over 50 percent of his passes into the end zone except for brock purdy and now he gets mike evans on top of it so super super excited about the mike evans signing and a diggy zero is exactly what they needed in the middle they can rotate in those two young guys from last year to help with the run game michael williams off the other side if they if they stay healthy the biggest if in all of football but if they stay healthy that's a

39:22Will Gavin:that's a much improved line from last year what a loaded nfc super bowl there they feel a little super bowl or busty just because of the age of some of the players you will have kittles coming off that injury which doesn't help trent williams it's been quiet on the trade front we got to assume he's going to stay there uh but the rams are super bowl or bust in the same division and the seahawks are the defending super bowl champions and that's before you even think about the eagles and all the contenders in the north i just i love how this season is setting up as we're talking by the way the rant the commander signed another wide receiver van jefferson they're just just deami brown van jefferson traylon burks they're just throwing dartboard really stacking up on those

40:02Jourdan Rodrigue:wide receiver fours i mean that's getting ready to come over to london and thrill us i've liked

40:08Will Gavin:that approach from the commanders this offseason in terms of just dartboards um yeah a couple of the other ones and we're going to say goodbye the raiders you know they got a nice three receiver in jail and nailer maybe he can be a two it'd be great if they got like a real deal number one at some point the panthers i think still need more weapons and i kind of can't believe the bengals are trying to win a Super Bowl and running it back with these two second year linebackers who were really poor last year for them so that that's one I'm keeping an eye on I don't know if you have any speed round ones before we say goodbye and let you get back to taking care of your your twins

40:40Jourdan Rodrigue:on a Friday night they're fast asleep don't worry about it I'm gonna go and enjoy my evening the wife's out I can kick up put my feet up enjoy my life um I the one that kind of jumped out to me that I haven't mentioned yet was just, the Chiefs' back end of their defense is an obvious shout because of losing Trevor Duffy and because of losing Jalen Watson. And yes, I know that, you know, the great Steve Spagnuolo trains guys up and they can go and pick up guys in the draft. But I just think the whole of that defense, George Karloftis isn't the number one edge. He's a number two. And Ashton Galote on the other side, or however he'd pronounce it if he was in New Orleans, just doesn't do it for me.

41:20Jourdan Rodrigue:Kairos Tonga is a nice plugger in the middle, but Chris Jones is coming off another year where he didn't really pick up until past week 10, week 11. I think that defense is not looking like it's going to be a difference maker this year. And when you're not going to have your quarterback for anything from four to nine games is the report. I don't know. There's a lot of holes there. There wasn't one glaring one. I just thought defense. They could do a whole defensive draft this year. And I wouldn't hate it.

41:47Will Gavin:I like the Cater-Cohu signing. a Lowy Gilman that gave good money at safety, but at cornerback on outside corner right now, it's like Noah Williams and Christian Fulton, who's always hurt, who was a free agent who barely played for them last year. I couldn't agree more. That's a great shout out to talk about the Chiefs defensive players. Will, you know, it's the off season. You're making Instagram, you know, popular overseas with your calls. You're making Instagram popular. What's going on in the off season? with will other than the occasional nfl daily appearance that we should get you back down soon

42:24Jourdan Rodrigue:oh we are we're doing the across the formation podcast weekly now the new podcast from talk sport that i've launched with with ollie hunter my buddy sam harris which is just an attempt to get back to doing something like i we used to do when we first started out doing shows and it was just a few guys who are mates talking about football and enjoying themselves so very much in the kind of vein of what you guys started out doing, of what the Ring of Fantasy guys are doing. It's a lot of nonsense with a little bit of analysis in there, but we've been having a lot of fun doing that. I went into this week's kind of free agency assessment show saying, actually, I really liked most of the moves people made.

43:02Jourdan Rodrigue:I was really positive. I was like, you know what? And then we actually started breaking it down, and I tore into about three different teams. Not intending to, it just kind of happened, that everyone said I was maybe a little bit harsh on people.

43:14Will Gavin:That was the off-season ride-along presented by Toyota because when people are the destination, your ride is important. Learn more at toyota.com and find the vehicle that fits your people. You know, every move can't be great. Will Gavin, he's the best. A great hang, a great broadcaster. Check out the podcaster. Yeah, let's get out of here. And by the way, he's on a poster with me apparently at the NFL UK office. It's me, him, and Ross Tucker because they have all the broadcasters from around the UK from the Super Bowl. So shout out to that. And yeah, shout out to all the listeners for checking us out this week.

43:53Will Gavin:We'll be back on Monday. See you then.

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