In short
Recap of Seahawks vs. Cardinals (Week 4 Thursday Night Football), focusing on Seattle’s late-game comeback, Arizona’s offensive miscommunications, and key special teams/clock-management moments.
Guests
Patrick Claiborne and Jordan Rodriguez (hosts of NFL Daily).
Guest backgrounds
Both are NFL analysts/commentators; the episode is presented as a “home edition” TNF recap with play-by-play and tactical breakdowns.
Key claims
Seattle’s heavy-personnel, tight-end-focused offense stayed cohesive and avoided forcing deep throws until the look appeared; Arizona’s offense was “disjointed” most of the game, especially Kyler Murray–Marvin Harrison Jr. route/communication issues; Arizona’s defense (Calais Campbell, aggressive line, back-to-front coverage) kept Seattle from pulling away.
Notable examples
Jason Myers’ late game-winning kick after a missed earlier FG; a controversial holding call negating a late Charbonnet TD; JSN’s 36-yard sideline catch; Harrison’s late TD catch; Ernest Jones interception of Harrison’s bobble; Cardinals’ short kickoff/extra-point decision and a near-tie.
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Chapters
Tap a time to open that second in VOSeahawks Victory Over Cardinals
0:34 to 2:14
Recap of the Seahawks' thrilling last-minute victory against the Cardinals.
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Key Plays and Turning Points
2:14 to 4:27
Discussion about pivotal moments and plays that defined the game.
“But how about Jason Myers stepping up after everything went wrong just moments ago and summoning the courage and belief, Jordan, to win the game for the Seattle Seahawks.”
Analysis of the Cardinals' Defense
4:27 to 7:12
In-depth analysis of the Cardinals' defensive performance and adaptability.
“And it really was, it could have been a catalytic swing if the Seahawks would have lost this game.”
Cardinals' Offensive Struggles
7:12 to 11:28
Exploration of the Cardinals' offensive issues and miscommunication.
“Yeah, the defense was consistently making plays, whereas the offense could never really string anything together.”
Darnold and Seahawks' Offensive Dynamics
11:28 to 14:01
Examining Sam Darnold's performance and the dynamics of the Seahawks' offense.
“And it makes perfect sense, Jordan, because the numbers for Trey McBride, right, show that he can be a focal point of an offense.”
Seahawks Offensive Strategy Breakdown
14:01 to 16:00
Explore how the Seahawks offense utilized heavy personnel and effective formations.
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Marvin Harrison Jr.'s Rollercoaster Game
16:01 to 17:58
Analyze Marvin Harrison Jr.'s performance and the emotional moments of his game.
“I know it's you're not always getting your yards per play the way you want it.”
Cardinals' Resilience and Turnovers
17:59 to 21:05
Discuss the Cardinals' comeback efforts and key turnovers that impacted the game.
“It was a sigh of relief from everybody in State Farm Stadium.”
Decision-Making in Crunch Time
21:06 to 24:10
Evaluate the critical decisions made by the Cardinals in the final moments of the game.
“And then later on, they have a chance, Jordan, to win the game.”
Decision-Making in Crunch Time
24:11 to 27:23
Evaluate the critical decisions made by the Cardinals in the final moments of the game.
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Seahawks-Cardinals Game Analysis
30:28 to 33:01
Breakdown of key plays and strategies from the Seahawks versus Cardinals game.
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Impact of Coaching Strategies
33:03 to 34:23
Discussion on the influence of coaching styles on team performance in the NFL.
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34:43 to 35:39
Reflections on the themes presented in the screenplay adaptation of a popular novel.
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36:53 to 37:43
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Transcript
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2:13Chris Stoll does the snap in. Michael Dixon puts it down Jason Myers, the kick is on the way and the kick is up and the kick is good and the Seahawks win the game they beat NFC West the Arizona Cardinals on the final play of the game
2:37Patrick Claybon:that call right there from Steve Rabel and Dave Wyman if you're just watching the highlight, welcome into NFL Daily Patrick Claibon, Jordan Rodriguez, a little home edition of Thursday Night Football's Recap as Jordan, if you just checked in, if you just watched the last five minutes, you would have thought, wow, this is an incredible football game. A lot happened to get there. But how about Jason Myers stepping up after everything went wrong just moments ago and summoning the courage and belief, Jordan, to win the game for the Seattle Seahawks.
3:09Jourdan Rodrigue:And summoning that smelling salt that he brought from home because that is the only way you are legally allowed to inhale them at this point per league rules and taking that double hit right through the left nostril, Patrick. And I think that gave him a little five extra yards, at least on that. Not the single hit, but you got to double hit that thing. And man, what a game that turned into over the last possession and a half, because it was a snoozer on the side of the Arizona Cardinals for most of it.
3:38Patrick Claybon:Yeah. And we're going to have to work our way back through this game because I go to the moment that it kind of turns around because Zach Charbonnet is dancing into the end zone. It looks like a Seahawks touchdown to go up late in the fourth quarter, but there's a holding call. I'll say it. You know, I'm accused constantly, Jordan, of being a shield robot. I did not see a holding call on Jackson Smith and Jigba. The microphone caught him also feeling like there was no holding call on Jackson Smith and Jigba. And ultimately, the Seahawks don't get the points that they need, And then the Cardinals come back from what felt like the dead.
4:12Patrick Claybon:It was zombie Cardinals late in the fourth quarter to make this a little interesting for the folks watching on Amazon Pro.
4:18Jourdan Rodrigue:That was only their second trip to the red zone all game, deep into the fourth quarter. The previous one was a field goal early in the first, or in the first half. This was a Cardinals team that, you don't want to talk about smelling salts, suddenly did not feel the urgency, did not feel the urgency of this game throughout the entirety of it until the last couple of possessions and including until that mysterious called hold and the stern teacher face from the official after JSN walked by him talking into the hot mic. And it really was, it could have been a catalytic swing if the Seahawks would have lost this game.
4:56Jourdan Rodrigue:That would have been the moment that we were talking about, you know, for most of the show.
4:59Patrick Claybon:And for most of the game, Jordan, to go back, to how that we got to that point, Sam Darnold played very, very good football. There were several moments where the Cardinals did summon a little bit of pressure. Darnold was able to escape that, make moves, make throws on the run, where we didn't necessarily see a lot of that earlier on in the season. But there was a drive where Darnold didn't deal with a lot of pressure, made plays with his legs. I believe he had a 32-yard scramble. and balls to Barner as well for a touchdown where we got to see what this offense looked like when everything's working.
5:38Patrick Claybon:But then either it's credit to the Cardinals defense or the Seahawks offense just kind of hit a lull there in the middle of the fourth quarter.
5:46Jourdan Rodrigue:And you know what? I am going to credit the Cardinals defense on this because I do want to start with the good for Arizona. We're going to spend a lot of time talking about the bad because my God, was there a lot of bad from the Cardinals offense. But I want to compliment their defensive line, especially. And their secondary, we know that they're back seven, especially with Mack Wilson in there. And he left the game and he came back in. And their linebackers and their safeties and their DBs, that's where Jonathan Gannon has built this defense. It's a back-to-front coverage dictates rush sort of structure that he likes to deploy.
6:17Jourdan Rodrigue:Well, they're missing a bunch of corners, right? Will Johnson was not able to play. A lot of guys are banged up. Jalen Johnson left the game near the end. And so you have to change your identity quickly, and they very much did that. I want to give the Cardinals defensive line, led by heart and soul, somehow still doing it, Calais Campbell, who seemed to almost unilaterally get the most out of every single one of his teammates. There were six tackles for loss through the third quarter by the time the Seahawks started their first possession of the fourth quarter. Sam Donald was sacked multiple times.
6:52Jourdan Rodrigue:They were aggressive. They were down. Their offense was absolutely lifeless. They were getting booed into halftime. They were getting booed in the third quarter. And still, this defensive line for the Cardinals kept showing up and kept making plays. And they're a huge reason why Seattle had trouble moving the ball later in the game and almost let the Cardinals back in it for good.
7:14Patrick Claybon:Yeah, the defense was consistently making plays, whereas the offense could never really string anything together. like the opening first drive of the second quarter. They had a great run. It set up a second and two. Kyler gets one to Marvin Harrison Jr. They weren't even close to being on the same page. Another, they got back at it. A couple of good balls to Wilson and McBride in the flat. And then he hit McBride in a nice hole shot between the corner and the safety. And then it all falls apart. Like Kyler winds up taking a sack. They look disjointed. And there was another bad play for Marvin Harrison Jr.
7:48Patrick Claybon:also in that same drive where he hit McBride on the corner. And we get this ocean of pseudo psychology where everybody's peering into the mind of Marvin Harrison Jr. And Jordan, it was the most predictable thing in the world that I felt was like, oh, Marvin's going to make a play. He's going to hit a knee and celebrate a touchdown like he always does. And everybody's going to act like, oh, this is it. His entire brain has shifted. This is now a different person. Versus it's just a good football player who was struggling to make some plays. And he made a good play. I'll be on my horse about that forever.
8:21Patrick Claybon:But there seems to be two versions of the Cardinals offense. Yeah. And we get them in the same drive sometimes. And it's infuriating.
8:30Jourdan Rodrigue:Yeah, it really is. It's exasperating to watch. And that 17-yard pass to Trey McBride on third down that you talked about, that whole shot that they hit, to that point, their longest completed play, not just pass, their longest completed play that wasn't called back to penalty, that wasn't intercepted in the entire game to that point. And that was pretty deep into the game. The Cardinals did not have, heading into their sixth possession, the Cardinals had one completed play over 12 yards and only two total. One was a run by Trey Benson and one was that 17-yard catch by Trey McBride. This offense was horrible for most of the game.
9:13Jourdan Rodrigue:And it wasn't just the miscommunications. And that is what, you know, I know that local market and I, you know, I know that team and all of that. And that is the number one thing that everybody is going to be talking about. It was the number one thing that the broadcast decided to talk about was the continued struggles between Marvin Harrison and Kyler Murray. And I think there's a fairness to discuss it because it's very clear this has not improved very much. It was the number one goal of the offseason. If you heard all of the things that people were saying and when they were being quoted and all of these things coming out of that market.
9:43Jourdan Rodrigue:And even when I was there for a couple of days of training camp, it was also we're trying to be positive. We're trying to get this young man in the proper trajectory. This Cardinals offense, what my main beef with it is, is that it overthinks itself to the point of constricting itself. And it's not just Marvin Harrison, who very clearly is feeling the weight of the world on his shoulders because he has to be a number one receiver, even though this offense is not built to function around a number one receiver. It's built to be a heavy personnel. Everything flows through the tight ends team. And you need to have more so a burner, a three, that can take the top off of a defense with enough regularity and gadget play that player up with enough regularity to back the defense the F off of you.
10:31Jourdan Rodrigue:And that is not what happened. Seattle had no respect for the deep passing game to the point where Julian Love is down there jumping routes on passes intended for Trey McBride, like five yards off the line of scrimmage because they did not need him deep. And they did not need these players to play deeper because there was no downfield passing game. And they could not mix their personnel. They couldn't do anything in part because it felt like they're just trying to force this thing to run through a true bona fide number one receiver when he sometimes just doesn't have it. And it's okay. He's growing up.
11:05Jourdan Rodrigue:Like, let's not try to make this young man something he's not yet. Let's get him, you know, support and let's like make sure that the offense makes sense and that the quarterback is on the same page, not, you know, disconnected, not talking to each other when they're, you know, cutting to sideline shots and they're not speaking to each other. You know, I just there's so much that's not feeling cohesive and functional and it's everyone's overthinking what this is and nobody's playing free as a result of it until it's almost too late. That's my soapbox. That's my rant. There we go.
11:36Patrick Claybon:And it makes perfect sense, Jordan, because the numbers for Trey McBride, right, show that he can be a focal point of an offense. He can make plays. He can catch balls like that 17-yarder. But also you can say, completely fair to Trey McBride, that this offense is asking him to do things. Like it's even putting Trey McBride in disadvantage, disadvantageous circumstances where he could probably be more successful if if he's being asked to do something a little bit different. So it feels like a mismatch of parts that have just been thrown together. And then you get into a fourth quarter situation where you have to go in the drill and the offense actually functions to an extent where, you know, Michael Wilson's making blind one handed catches to extend the drives on fourth down.
12:22Patrick Claybon:It wasn't just the Cardinals making plays down the stretch because we do need to, and again, to acknowledge the defense making the plays because Max Melton, the Cardinals defense, had great plans. Specifically with regards to Jackson Smith and Jigba, who's so much of a part of the passing offense, didn't really have a lot going into the fourth quarter. And Sam Darnold, Jordan, throws one of the better players. I don't know if we're going to make it a throw of the year candidate because the pocket was very clean.
12:45Jourdan Rodrigue:Well, and can you imagine getting that pass, Greg? I mean, can you really imagine trying to argue something on behalf of Sam Darnold? Like you and I, I think are a little kinder to some of these guys.
12:56Patrick Claybon:Well, I have a, I have a history of perhaps not being fair to Samuel, Richard Darnold, but on, it was a, it was a crucial third and six. Ultimately Jason Myers would go on to miss the field goal, but 36 yards down the sideline to Jackson Smith and Jigba, which felt like a moment that could have won the game for the Seattle Seahawks. That's one of those on-the-table moments where you feel like, oh, Sam Darnold just hit this beautiful stop and go to JSN. And all the things that anybody's ever said about Sam were wrong. Shout out to the Fightin' Tritons, his high school. Everything all on display there.
13:38Patrick Claybon:We kind of wipe it away because Myers missed, but still a great moment for Sam in the Seahawks passing attack.
13:43Jourdan Rodrigue:Yeah, I mean, he's been playing good football all through the start of this season. And I really think that he and this offense are custom built for each other. And maybe it was kismet that they ended up in each other's laps here because, you know, Clint Kubiak was not designing this offense for Sam Darnold at the start. He was designing it for Geno Smith at the start. And then everything kind of shook out in, in free agency the way that it did and then trade the way that it did. And all of these things, this offense, I know this sounds a little bit takey, but this Seattle offense seems like the offense that Arizona was pretending it was going to try to be coming in to this year.
14:19Jourdan Rodrigue:And I say that because they're using the heavy personnel. They were 12 personnel for most of the game, two tight ends, two receivers, one running back. The way that they were mixing up their formations, at the end of the show, I have a couple of notes that I want to bring up that aren't necessarily in the game flow if we have time. And one of these things is with these tight ends that they were mixing up formations and not just, you know, they weren't always totally efficient running the ball between Zach Charbonnet and Ken Walker, But they kept going because they understood that that under center run game and then that under center play action game was going to settle Sam Darnold down and give him confidence.
14:55Jourdan Rodrigue:And eventually, if you hammer it enough, you're going to start being ahead of down. And like we credited the Cardinals D-line in advance for, you know, making a lot of plays. They made a couple of big TFLs early and they still kept running the ball and they still kept utilizing these heavier personnel sets and going to the tight ends. A.J. Barner, I think, caught their first touchdown. But this was like a smart use of the players that are talented in their roles, and you're not asking them to play outside of their roles. Everything felt cohesive and functional, and they weren't trying to force the ball down the field to a one receiver until the look was there.
15:33Jourdan Rodrigue:You notice what that play was, that 36-yard incredible throw, incredible catch down the sideline by JSN. He was in one-on-one coverage for probably one of the only snaps of coverage, one of the only routes that he ran all night where he wasn't either bracketed or double covered or being leveraged and tilted in a certain way to where he was not going to be the most available player on the field. And they did not force anything. That's what I love about the Seahawks offense so far. I see the vision, guys. I see it. I know it's you're not always getting your yards per play the way you want it. But like, man, you run it like this steadily enough and you throw the ball clean and all of these things and you take your shots when you have them and you don't force anything and you mix up your personnel, like your personnel looks like this.
16:18Jourdan Rodrigue:You really got something down the heavier stretch of the season.
16:21Patrick Claybon:They did. And you can see the way that that plan has come together in Elijah Arroyo, a little bit of a coming out part. As long as he's covered by Josh Sweat, which is one of those matchups. It's just good math.
16:33Jourdan Rodrigue:It's tight end math out of 12 personnel. Yeah.
16:36Patrick Claybon:Let's have our highly touted, highly paid Ed Rusher rush the quarterback and not necessarily cover tight ends because he was down the field like taking a futility swipe at the ball. It was not good tape and a rough one for Josh White. He did almost kind of completely turn the game around before the Cardinals turned the game around with an opening second half sack of Sam Darnold where he got the ball out. where we saw what this Cardinals defense can do. And late, we finally, the aforementioned Marv Jr. touchdown. Why don't we get a listen to the call? Because so much led up to this moment, and it felt like the universe had already decided Marvin Harrison Jr.
17:15Patrick Claybon:was going to get in the paint. Snap to Murray, four-man Seattle rush. Murray drops back, now throws it deep left side end zone. Harrison goes up and stabs it for a touchdown. What a catch by Harrison. a huge score for the cardinals harrison down on one knee in prayer got omagi saying thank you i finally pulled that one in to help my team when they needed it most that's dave pasch and aq shipley uh on the call from uh kmvp as uh marv you know bounces back up tosses the ball to the referee and yeah you're getting booed uh the offense is playing poorly It wasn't just a sigh of relief from 18. It was a sigh of relief from everybody in State Farm Stadium.
18:04Jourdan Rodrigue:Yeah, because you heard the Seahawks chants really loudly, which not super surprising on that front. But the crowd booing them out of halftime into the tunnel and then again booing them in the third quarter. And then sort of giving them, you know, he made a catch before that play and giving him sort of the mean cheer. You know, like the, oh, you can do it. You're doing amazing kind of like mean girls cheer. And so it was interesting. I think I'm soft, so I really felt something. I felt moved by his reaction to that and how he seemed very overcome in the end zone in that moment. And I loved seeing his teammates come around him and pat him on the helmet and all of that.
18:46Jourdan Rodrigue:Because to get there even, I mean, we have to understand how catastrophic the start was for Marvin Harrison Jr. to this game. Not only was there two separate miscommunications on routes, some of it is the quarterback some of it is the receiver I'm not going to ever place the blame on one person but there was clearly you know a couple of routes where they thought that Marvin Harrison Jr. was going to run to the outside Kyler threw it to a landmark to the outside uh he ended up running down the field um there was more miscommunication and then the worst one of all was a downfield throw and Marvin Harrison Jr.
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19:20Jourdan Rodrigue:I mean it's a beautiful pass you place it perfectly and he's got like the mitts, the size of dinner plates, and still he bobbles it. You know, Ernest Jones, former Los Angeles Ram, comes away with the interception. And that, even in that moment right there, not only were you just sick for the guy, right, knowing how much he was putting on his shoulders, not only were you sick for him, but you also, that felt like when the game was starting to get out of hand and in favor of Seattle, Patrick.
19:49Patrick Claybon:Yeah, in fact, let's listen to the call on KRRO from Steve Rabel and Dave Wyman. Slots to both sides. Murray hits his back foot, throws inside. Harrison bobbles. Ball's picked off. Coming near side, it's Jones. He jumps over him and he's still going. Midfield. And he is down in Arizona territory. And poor Marvin Harrison lets one bounce off his chest and into the arms of Ernest Jones who makes the most of it. Yeah, even the Seahawks call. Feeling bad for Marv Jr.
20:24Jourdan Rodrigue:They were like, oh, no. But yes, but oh, no. Yeah, to see Kyler kind of pump fake, shift his shoulders, hold the middle of the field,
20:34Patrick Claybon:just a note to clear Marv, to get them that ball in a great spot. Great quarterback play. But in fairness to Marv, this is a drop turnover we've seen guys well into their careers make. And he bounced back from it on Thursday night. But it's one of those things where things start to snowball, or they can start to snowball. And they were. They decidedly were snowballing for the Cardinals offense. But they're able to summon it and get back into this game thanks to the efforts of the defense. And then later on, they have a chance, Jordan, to win the game. And Amari DiMarcado, who had against the 49ers a fairly nasty drop in a similar situation, comes through this time.
21:24Snap to Murray. Drops straight back. Looks left. Short throw to the left. Caught DiMarcado. Five. Breaks a tackle. Hits to the end zone. Touchdown with 28 seconds left. But Cardinals a point away from tying the game.
21:38Patrick Claybon:So a couple of things there are both of those plays end up being a Devon Witherspoon is on the receiving end of the Marvin touchdown, as well as the Di Mercado touchdown. I would like to get your thoughts, Jordan on that decision from Jonathan Gannon. Cause at that point, 30 plus round 30 seconds to go in the game. They had just driven, it felt like a little bit of a miracle to be in there. How do you feel about kicking the extra point?
22:03Jourdan Rodrigue:I feel like, I mean, I would have gone for two personally. no guts no glory I'm also I thought this was a really conservatively called game from both coaches because we had a fourth and two field goal that ended up being missed that could have also put this game away after the JSN catch down the sideline and that was in my opinion a poor decision by Mike McDonald um and and obviously could have swung the game in a big way because the Cardinals then came roaring back and then um you know it ended up you know tying it ultimately I just think when you are, I know you don't believe in momentum, Patrick.
22:40Jourdan Rodrigue:So that being said, but when you, when you finally have the crowd back into the game, because they were gone for most of this, I mean, they, they had, if we're going to do time of possession parentheses crowd, this was like a total Seattle Seahawks game and very frustrated, but then you, you could feel it. You could hear it through your broadcast, the swell back into it. But I know that I think that the Seahawks were actually kind of expecting Jonathan Gannon to go for two. It kind of seemed like near the end there. There was some I was watching the dots on NextGen. There was some pausing coming on and off the field because they weren't necessarily sure.
23:18Jourdan Rodrigue:Are you are you really not going to go?
23:20Patrick Claybon:That's a ball knowers tip, folks. The the dots on NGS are well ahead of the broadcast. Yes. For those of you who are addicted to ball. Yeah. Go ahead. Check out the dots. Yeah. Real sickos.
23:31Jourdan Rodrigue:Watch the dots. Yeah. but but yeah I mean I I don't know what what would you have done there because I would have gone for two and I would have said I'm going down swinging if I go down well it's one of those things because
23:43Patrick Claybon:the analysis of how confident somebody is is something that we do all the time watching the game I feel like if if you're having a conversation with Petsing uh there and you feel like there is an instant recognition of this is what we're going to run uh this is how we're going to run it um Everybody knows the procedure and everything. I think all those things, all those boxes have to be checked for a go decision like that. And if there's any hesitation from any part of the operation, I completely understand kicking the extra point. What I don't understand is Chad Ryland short, kicking the ball short of the landing zone and completely ruining the circumstances.
24:24Patrick Claybon:Because that's it, Jordan. It's like until 60 minutes, the results are cumulative. the Cardinals lost the game on the kickoff.
24:31Jourdan Rodrigue:I know the kickoff suddenly matters so much these last couple of weeks. It's wild. Shout out to Sam Schwartzstein. He's probably thrilled right now. And it happened on an Amazon prime game too. Yeah. So between that, that was crazy because for those who maybe were catching in late or in fairness, if you walked away from this one thinking that it was just going to be terribly boring right around halftime, the ball went to the 40 for Seattle. And then after that, there was a play downfield. Sam Darnold hits JSN again. Who else? Downfield. And JSN, very, very smart play where he makes the catch inbounds, but he stretches with two hands around the football to then tap the ball out of bounds to make sure that he is out of bounds to the point where even the officials had to recalibrate and figure out, oh, yeah, that's the rule.
25:18Jourdan Rodrigue:You have to make sure you stop the clock here. And then gave Seattle back a timeout, its last timeout, at the end of the game. and you know I still think there was a lot of conservative uh late down calls here but the players made Mike McDonald right and in the Cardinals they sort of proved that you should have gone for two because then you effed up on the following kickoff because you know what I mean so it's it's all like a what-if scenario but like that that kickoff specifically in that tiny when you are that close when you're tied like that when there's still time on the clock every tiny margin matters and the Cardinals really, you know, fell short, like literally.
25:59Patrick Claybon:Literally. About a foot and a half.
26:02Jourdan Rodrigue:About a foot and a half.
26:03Patrick Claybon:And we've had multiple games, you know, Ben Johnson had to deal with the aftermath of not kicking the ball out of the end zone. And now Jonathan Gannon will have a full week of questions regarding kickoff procedure at the end of the game, being short of the landing zone. there's so many ways that things can get you in this game and the Arizona Cardinals almost managed to get got in all of them. For adults with Crohn's disease or ulcerative colitis symptoms, every choice matters. Tremphaya offers self-injection or intravenous infusion from the start. Tremphaya is administered as injections under the skin or infusions through a vein every four weeks, followed by injections under the skin every four or eight weeks.
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30:23Patrick Claybon:You had mentioned, Jordan, that there was one tidbit that you wanted to get into. Yes. Let's do it.
30:28Jourdan Rodrigue:Yes, thank you so much. So there's a couple of really interesting plays that I think other teams are going to steal from the Seahawks out of this game. And where I really like the dichotomy of this game in general, because I always think about play callers and all that stuff, was you had two guys from the Kubiak system, Drew Petzing, and then literally a Kubiak in Clint Kubiak. Nepotism, woo! I was going to call him literally a Kubiak.
30:53Patrick Claybon:Literally a Kubiak.
30:54Jourdan Rodrigue:But no, he called a heck of a game, in my opinion, the things that he could not control, such as the laid down situationals, I don't put on him at all. That's obviously the head coach making that decision. I thought Clint Kubiak called an absolutely awesome game. And what I really, really liked was the play on their opening script, which is where coaches like to show off. Right. And this was a four by one formation. So four skill players on one side and one skill player on the other side of the stack of offensive linemen in the middle. and the quarterback obviously ready in the back of that to take the snap.
31:30Jourdan Rodrigue:I say skill players and not receivers because they were in 12 personnel. So in the four, in the cluster of four on the left side of the formation, they had two tight ends, one receiver, and a running back, Ken Walker, in this case. On the other side, detached far from the stack as the one on the other side of the 4x1 was JSN. And they ran a screen out of it. And it went for, I think, like 19 yards or something like that. And what I really, really liked about this, and it was a screen pass to Ken Murray, and it was a little catch-and-run huge gain for them. What I really liked about this was that they had started the game in 12 personnel, and they didn't want to let the Cardinals substitute in different players.
32:11Jourdan Rodrigue:So they stayed in their heavy personnel. They hurried to the line of scrimmage, kept their personnel, and still ran a super unique, this is not used at all ever. A four by one usually is not used and let alone with two tight ends and a running back in the four. It was super fascinating. It helped them stay in their heavy personnel. It kept the defense from substituting. It made them go fast and it got a huge gain. And I think that play specifically is going to be copied all around the league as 12 personnel increases. And I think that was Clint Kubiak flexing on us casuals a little bit as well.
32:44Patrick Claybon:Well, I mean, not flexing on you, Jordan. Oh, I saw it, Clint.
32:48Jourdan Rodrigue:I got my eye on you, buddy.
32:50Patrick Claybon:And so now, I mean, it's the literally a Kubiak play. Literally a Kubiak play. And when Sean runs it, it's going to be very exciting. We're going to love it. Who runs it next?
33:03Jourdan Rodrigue:That's what I want to know. Who, in your opinion, runs it next? Because it's going to be either Cliff, right? Or Sean or Kyle. It's going to be Kyle.
33:13Patrick Claybon:It's going to be Kyle. He's going to do it Sunday. Yeah.
33:15Jourdan Rodrigue:Do you think he'll give Clint any credit for it? No, no.
33:19Patrick Claybon:He may like wink and note. He's like, hey, you know, I'm grinding tape at, you know, 12, 30, midnight. Everyone steals from everybody.
33:28Jourdan Rodrigue:It's normal.
33:28Patrick Claybon:I'm listening to Jordan Rodrigue. She saw the same thing I did. And then he's going to lie to us about where the Rockberg is going to play.
33:36Jourdan Rodrigue:It was so cool because Patrick, Drew Petsing's right out of this same system and he also has the tight ends to do this. and he is not doing the interesting things they said they were going to do with their tight ends, again, because they're trying to force it with a one receiver who's getting, you know, and all of it, to me, felt so disjointed to what the literal Kubiak did. I just thought it was very interesting, a little subtext for this game tonight.
33:59Patrick Claybon:Yeah, and subtext for a division now where the aforementioned Kyle Shanahan can sit back and relax. One of these teams that they've beaten, because they've beaten both of them, was ultimately going to lose. Thought it might have been the Seahawks for half a second there, but the 49ers, big winners, as they were going to be regardless, as the Seattle Seahawks survive a late push from the Arizona Cardinals and get a win on Thursday night football. NFL Daily will be back with Greg from Dublin. Looking forward to that. For Jordan Roderick, I'm Patrick Claiborne. We'll see you guys next week.
34:42Patrick Claybon:Earlier this week on NFL Daily, a topic came up I had little to no knowledge of. I didn't want our listeners to be in the same situation I was. So as a reward for listening this far, I'd like to offer my thoughts on Elizabeth Chambers' screenplay adaptation of multiple Anne Brasheri's novels into what ultimately became Sisterhood of the Traveling Pants 2. What happens when a coming-of-age story realizes that we never really do, and life and experiences build upon each other to help us learn not just about one another, but about ourselves. Without spoiling too much, we get a look at the parallels of life.
35:15Patrick Claybon:Ancient Greek artifacts show us the things we leave behind can tell us all so much, while a daughter relearns her relationship with her mother, ultimately revealing it's often never enough to love someone. Sometimes you need to show them that you do in a way that they can understand. The thing about the sisterhood of the traveling pants too is somewhere someone is holding on to something you gave them, be they metaphorical pants or literal ones. And whether they're tucked away in a drawer or haphazardly left on a Grecian clothesline, the things we leave behind matter. Thanks for listening to this screenplay review.
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Patrick Claybon and Jourdan Rodrigue collaborate on a special edition of NFL Daily's Thursday Night Football recap, where the Seattle Seahawks defeated the Arizona Cardinals 23-20 in Week 4 of the 2025 NFL regular season. The Seahawks defense picked off Kyler Murray twice, while running a smooth offensive operation throughout. The Cardinals, on the other hand, struggled to move the ball -- and Marvin Harrison Jr. had a rollercoaster of a game, to say the least. All of that and more on the latest from NFL Daily!
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