Sorsby Denied, Pitts and Strange Extended and Ranking Non-Football Things

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3:03Patrick Claybon:Welcome to NFL Daily, where we discuss football filled with apologies. Because I would like to start off this show, which features Nick Shook. Hello, Nick, with an apology to the estates of both Roberta Flack and Robert Stack as I combine them into a Voltron of a human being, which would be incredibly talented but does not also exist. My apologies to anybody else. And Shook and Eric, thanks for putting up with my constant mistakes. Hey, man.

3:30Nick Shook:Hey, you know, in the moment, I was just like, let's just roll with it. And then it started to make me question it, too. And I was like, I swear it's Stack. But the idea of Roberta Fleck and Robert Stack combined, kind of frightening. Yeah. Maybe good enough for an unsolved mystery.

3:45Patrick Claybon:It would be very unsolved, and it would be there in Santa Clara near the substation and not next to the giant cancer-causing EM radiation source that we all know is 92 million miles away. Shout out to our star, by the way. So let's get into today's show. We're going to start with a little bit of news. We've had some this week, some of it we weren't able to get to on this final pod before we take a little break. You guys can listen to some of Greg's musings coming up next week. We will start with that little bit of news, which was felt like a lot of news, Nick, when the NFL sent Brendan Soresby a letter that basically said, no, thanks.

4:21Patrick Claybon:There will be no supplemental draft. You are the only entrant in this hypothetical supplemental draft. We are not pleased with the level of contrition you have showed with regard to your gambling. and basically good luck to a possible introduction next year. Possible seemed like a very heavy handed word there, Nick.

4:38Nick Shook:Yeah, that's what was, I think the, I don't know if I would say funniest, but most interesting note about all of it was the way it concluded, which is that you, you know, you, you could, you could enter next year's draft, like just enjoy preparing for that, but we're not going to, you know, make any special considerations for you, which is funny because the supplemental draft itself is not really all that special. It's not like this would be the first time that's happened, but it did send a message, which is that the league is not interested, I think, in trying to unpack the situation or the circumstances that led to this point for Brendan Sorsby.

5:10Nick Shook:And the only thing that I really am disappointed in is the fact that his stock is now going to get boosted off of nothing. I saw top 10 quarterback lists hit social media after this announcement. Sorsby listed as high as three in some, and I'm just thinking, off of what? Like, did we not consider the existence of some other guys who are actually going to play football next year? So it's going to make for an interesting quarterback class, even more interesting than it already is.

5:34Patrick Claybon:It's funny because quality play enhances the conversation and the conversation enhances the perception of how relevant a football player is like the way Trinidad Chambliss played in the postseason of college football last year, where it's like, oh my God. And that was based on what he did on the field and all love to bring source these accomplishments. but a lot of it was vaporware in terms of the discussion about the hypothetical value that this player can have. And, you know, I instantly said to Greg, because it seemed like this was all going to happen, that the NFL sometimes makes rulings based on the vibes of the conversation.

6:08Patrick Claybon:And the general vibes of the conversation was, I can't believe he's gotten away with this. And so, yeah, the league was not going to be a part of him continuing to get away with this. And so here we are. And good luck to Brendan Swordsby. And, you know, maybe all the other quarterbacks, Nick, who never bet$90 ,000 on their college football teams.

6:28Nick Shook:There are so many questions to answer that we'll never really know the answers to, which is where did a college kid get$90 ,000 to place on bets first off? And then it's also like, why did we get this out of season, you know, pre-draft push of a player who's not actually going to be in the NFL this year? But yeah, it really felt like just a message was sent, which is that, hey, I don't we don't want to really deal with this right now. It's kind of functions as a pseudo, you know, one year suspension. So we'll see how it all plays out.

6:55Patrick Claybon:Yeah. And again, good luck to him. There was, of course, we've had a few suspensions in the NFL related to gambling. One of them was former Atlanta Falcon Calvin Ridley, who detailed his, again, much less involved series of wagers in a Players Tribune article. and his former teammate, Kyle Pitts, agreed to a three-year,$54 million contract. I guess we can button that up with Britton Strange, whose injury last year for the Jacksonville Jaguars really changed their offense in the middle to late part of the season. It's three years up to 54, 36 guaranteed for Kyle Pitts, and three years up to 48 with around$26 million guaranteed for Britton Strange.

7:37Patrick Claybon:A couple of nice tight end deals, Nick.

7:39Nick Shook:Yeah, first off, hell of a segue. That's why you're a pro's pro. And secondly, yeah, it was interesting that the Pitts deal comes first. And then immediately after the Strange deal comes, almost as if they were kind of the Jaguars were kind of waiting for Pitts to sign first. And then Strange's deal comes in, understandably, below Pitts. But I like the language of it, which is the up to 48 million. It's always, you know, in favor of the agents trying to boost their job well done or whatever, negotiating these contracts. But I expect Strange's deal to land more in the range of like Isaiah Likely, Mark Andrews than where Kyle Pitts is going to be.

8:09Nick Shook:still a good deal. And I think it's a good deal. It's going to look better in a couple of years from now for the Jaguars, you know, taking a bet on, and I guess that's not the term I want to use in this situation, but taking a chance on a guy who has steadily ascended, who was good enough in his second year to convince the Jaguars to move on from Evan Ingram. And I'm really excited to see really what this entire Jaguars offense is going to do in year two under Liam Cohen, a guy that I, you know, didn't believe was going to be that effective in his first year in Jacksonville. And boy, was I wrong now in year two with Trevor Lawrence and this whole offense coming back and basically the team with the most continuity from one season to the next.

8:43Nick Shook:I would love to see if Strange can continue to build on his own success and then make that contract look good.

8:48Patrick Claybon:Yeah, I love both of the deals in tandem because it shows their space for the different brands and regions of tight end, just like their space for different brands and regions of wide receivers. And as we go into more 12 and 13, I understand that there's a general push and appreciation for tight ends that do it all, but there's always going to be a space for Travis Kelsey. There's always going to be space for a six, five guy in Kyle pits who can run away from people, jump over people and score to the extent that we've seen Kyle pits in spots. And I know that there's frustrated fantasy managers.

9:20Patrick Claybon:If there's a person who could do what Kyle pits does, that person is going to get paid there. You're going to have to draft them and just deal with the consequences. That's, that's what happens. Yeah.

9:28Nick Shook:It's not the fault of Kyle pits that he hasn't produced to the level that fancy managers wanted him to produce too. It's the fact that the Falcons couldn't figure out how to use him until basically last year. I think the best years are ahead for him and that money is going to reflect it or at least that contract is going to look good in a few years.

9:42Patrick Claybon:Yeah. Great news for them. A bit of negative news as Terry on Arnold turn himself in. He was arrested in Florida in connection with what's allegedly a scheme to recover stolen goods that police in Florida are alleging he was the orchestrator of. The Lions have said that they're going to comment once more information is made available as we kind of sort through this because, you know, law enforcement would like to have a monopoly on violence and recovery of stolen goods. And we don't we want everybody to be safe. We don't want anybody taking matters into their own hands. And so we're going to wait and hope that everything sorts itself out in Florida with Terry on Arnold.

10:20Patrick Claybon:That wraps up our news. It's time for the offseason ride along presented by Toyota. as we look ahead to the 2027 NFL draft. Yes, you too, Britton Sorsby, may be able to take part in the 2027 NFL draft. It takes place Thursday, April 29th, the Saturday, May 1st, 2027 in Washington, D.C. Get a chance to look forward to that.

10:39Nick Shook:And you know what? Look, I'm excited for the latest place for the draft to go to. I know this has been a traveling circus for, what, a decade now? It's no longer the, everybody make the pilgrimage to Radio City Music Hall and sit in the seats and get ready to boot the Jets pick. Now we're going from one place to the next and there's a lot of positive momentum in Washington. And this right here, if you're watching on YouTube, is one of the reasons why. The commanders under owner Josh Harris, that whole group, have been moving positively for years now. And the renderings of their new stadium that they want to build are magnificent.

11:06Nick Shook:This is in a world in which so many new stadiums are designed to look almost exactly the same. This one does not. This one is unique. What would be the new RFK on the old RFK site? It's obviously years away from construction, but the draft going there, going to give Washington a taste of the big time in the NFL. and it's going to proceed what eventually will be a magnificent palace for commanders football.

11:28Patrick Claybon:Yeah. And it's a far cry from the days, the dark days of the slur era for the franchise come a long way since then. Congratulations to all the people who have made it through that. I know there's a lot of people in our nation's capital. People do often wonder that there's, there's a lot of a certain segment of Cowboys fans in DC and it's like, how can that happen? There was a period of time where the franchise was not amenable to all folks you know and speaking of our nation's capital that could also be said that was the off-season ride-along presented by toyota because when people are the destination your ride is important learn more toyota.com and find the vehicle that fits your people let's get to a fun off-season segment where there's so many chances nick uh for us to rank things we've had the nfl daily 32 all summer we've done wide receiver rankings with nate tice last week quarterback rankings with john And Ledger comes out next week.

12:24Patrick Claybon:Greg has famously been a part of ranking players even before the existence of this podcast, before the existence of around the NFL, even shout out to NFL top 10, which featured a very young Greg Rosenthal would always air on NFL network. But we love that. But we've ranked some things. Some of them have nothing to do with football. And I would like you to bet lead officer.

12:45Nick Shook:Fun fact, Patrick, before you and I ever crossed paths, before I ever met Greg or anybody else, I was the intern producer intern on NFL top 10 at NFL films way back in 2014. So this is a near and dear. I've never known this. Yes. This is where I started. Jason Weber, the producer. I ran to him in, I think new Orleans before the super bowl a couple of years ago. Great guy. I was his intern way back in the day. And not only was Greg on that show, our dear late friend, Chris Westling was also on that show. And that was the first time I ever saw either of them on camera before I got to know them as closely as we, as we have now.

13:18Patrick Claybon:Did you guys shoot the number interstitials? That's what I want to know.

13:22Nick Shook:No, those were already there by the time I got there. But I will say there was one comedian whose name will not be mentioned. He was supposed to show up for an interview for a show one day. And I was very excited to see him because he was on a popular sports related comedy at the time. And he bailed on us and said he was sick. But he did morning radio that day. And I've never let him, you know, I've never forgotten about it. He's, you know, he's on my list. He's definitely on my list. Also on my list, non-football topics. And we're going all over the place here, okay? I'm just going to start it out right now.

13:50Nick Shook:This is as I thought about what would I like to randomly rank? I'm somebody who likes to kick back, have a good time from here and there. So I'm going with your top five situational beverages. For me, my beverage of choice is, of course, a beer. I'm not going to name the brand here because there's partnerships. But number five on the list, it is perhaps the most cliche one of all. It's the shower beer. Now, the setup's got to be good. You got to be in the right mind for the shower beer. but if it all works out well, it's a good way to start whatever evening or day you're about to embark upon. Number four, nothing better than going to the airport early, sitting down at a bar and having an airport beer or getting stuck in a layover like I did in Atlanta last year and having a couple of beverages at the airport bar.

14:36Nick Shook:The airport beer is number four. Number three, when you live in a place that has very defined seasons like I do, there's nothing better, even though I just said there was nothing better than the airport beer, than stepping out onto a patio and having the first patio beer of the year when it's sunny out, when it's nice. Could be a rooftop as well on a warm summer night, but that first patio beer just hits different. Down to number two. I'm a guy who enjoys tending to his yard. The post yard work beer is just, oh, it's refreshing. It's rewarding. As soon as you crack it or you pop off the cap to the bottle.

15:13Nick Shook:You're just like, I earned this one. I'm going to enjoy this. Maybe you're sitting on your porch or just admiring the work. I just edged my yard last week. I'm looking down the lines. They're crispy. So is this light draft or this light Pilsner that I'm drinking as well. Very crispy. And last but not least, my favorite beverage, my favorite beer of all. One of my favorite reasons that I, one of the favorite things about living in Cleveland for me is how the city is very centered around sports and there is no better day than when the Cavaliers or the Guardians are in a playoff game and the whole fan base descends upon the city and you all hang out hours before the game.

15:50Nick Shook:It is the first beer at the start of an all day sporting event. You can think about those playoff games. You can think about an NFL tailgate, the community and the taste of that first beverage. When you know you're going to have an all day, a marathon of fun, that's number one on my list.

16:06Patrick Claybon:It's a, it's a great list. I I'm looking back and adding beverage, uh, in because it, it applies not just, uh, to the, to the, you know, the barley and the, and the weeded, you know, cause I'm not necessarily a beer guy, but the order that you have, like it almost goes into the order of accomplishment, right? Like that shower beer, you know, you're getting up or maybe you're going to bed either way. Like the barrier for entry at the airport you've accomplished right getting their baggage you got through gsa yeah everything is done so you're finishing up there getting out on the patio you have a patio you know like you've done everything you need to do so you can just go out there and do nothing yard work you you finish the entire thing you can enjoy it uh in there and then the whole team community coming together to have a playoff beverage come on man you're right hey i i love

17:01Nick Shook:to bring people together or at least celebrate accomplishments and those are all celebratory to

17:04Patrick Claybon:me in one way or another all right i am going to rank general summer things um as they popped into my head and at number five the moment you set the hook on literally any form of fish it's the culmination of the process of picking out the time the bait when to go where to cast all leading up to that moment combined with the uncertainty of what's at the end of the hook as every single child's toy is some form of loot box nowadays and almost everything is a loot box that is nature's loot box and you get a chance it could be small could be tiny it could not be in the legal limit you throw it back you put another one in there but that moment where you feel that first head shake that's at number five number four is realizing you're looking at a great 10 to 15 minutes of a blended fruit beverage where perhaps you've augmented it with some form of way or maybe you just don't care about the macros that day and you're having whether it's some banana mango acai blueberry just some form of blended fruit where you know whether you're walking driving you can mindlessly consume the sugar for the next 10 to 15 minutes unfortunately for me it's more like five or six and you get sad when it's over but when it first starts man that's awesome at Number three, fireworks.

18:27Patrick Claybon:They're dangerous. They can hurt you. They can hurt other people. But it's big thing, go loud and go boom. And maybe somebody may, you know, be convinced that you're celebrating 250 years where you might not have been included for the whole 250. But who cares? It's a big, great thing. I love loud noises. My dog doesn't. But she'll be all right. Everybody will figure out. Number two, you're traveling somewhere and you wake up on the plane while the wheels are hitting your destination. You have somehow managed to not drool on yourself and embarrass yourself for the entire flight. You've managed to navigate.

19:06Patrick Claybon:Well, somebody's managed to navigate the cart down the aisle without tarrytating your shoulder and alerting you from the slumber. So that's good. And at number one, the first few seconds of people being at your dwelling, having a good time, drinks in hand, you realize that you have brought all these people together and the meat is on the grill and it is cooked to perfection. That is my number one summer thing.