Super Bowl, Division Winners and Awards Prediction Show!

19:57I'm not going to change it to Mendoza now that there's a point system. Although just likelihood, you know, if he gets in there by week four or five, like he has a strong chance just because I think he's very good at football and he plays quarterback. But we're going to talk about the kickoff game on our next show going up on Monday. You know, I think Jadarian Price is going to be one of the key offensive engines of one of the best teams in the NFL. it's not like the deepest group of offensive rookies of the year and so I think he has a really strong chance if he gets 250 touches on that team to win it who do you got Patrick?

20:34I've got DeJuan Stribling I like that mainly because like I was him and Hong with Jadarian Price and I know Jadarian Price will have the opportunity early on but to play an entire NFL season as the starter at running back I think maybe that's going to be something difficult to get to the finish and get that vote at the end. But a wide receiver, especially in this offense, if Kyle and company feel good about him now and have opportunities, then at the end of the season, he'll be right where he needs to be to get it. Where I'm viewing him, he's the fifth favorite plus 1 ,000. That's not a bad one.

21:10The favorite by Little is Jeremiah Love, despite the injury. He might play still week one. Shout out to the Cardinals, by the way, for getting their Michael Wilson contract done on Thursday. I think that's going to age really well for a good young player. Carnell Tate is the second favorite. Mendoza's tied with him. Price is right there. Basically, it's a big four. And then it's DeJuan struggling. Quarterbacks are so likely to win this award that Carson Beck and Jack Strand are in the top 12 options here. That offensive rookie of the year.

21:39Jourdan Rodrigue:Jack Strand. Just continues to just. The odds makers saw the Falcons second preseason game and were like, that's it. Jack Strand just continues to elicit these responses from us. From Minnesota Moorhead, it would be crazy if he was good as a rookie, but I do think we are now living in one of the multiverses. I don't know which one, but let's say there's... The bad one. Let's say there's 20 of them. Let's say there's 10 of them. 10 of who? 10 multiverses. Oh, okay. Universes. In the multiverse. Oh, that's good. I don't know how this works. if you just put the effort in you're like the smartest guy I know if you just put a little effort in what's the Hot Dog Fingers movie that's all I know everything everywhere at once

22:27in three of those you know universes like Jack Strand starts at least five games this year you know I think there's like a pretty decent chance that we see a lot of Jack Strand way more than I was expected things would have to go pretty wrong for the Falcons but that's very possible all right quickly Jordan It's Jadarian Price.

22:46Jourdan Rodrigue:Okay, I like that. Defensive rookie. Why don't we start with you then? Yeah, I liked. Crazy how deep this is. Actually, I want to read off just some options. Just want to list the top favorites in order. Reuben Bain, pass rusher for the Bucs. Wow, what a great option he would be. David Bailey, pass rusher for the Jets. Caleb Downs, I think would be the favorite in many years. Safety for the Cowboys. Sonny Stiles has had a quiet camp. He's starting for the Commanders. Can rack up numbers. Arbel Reese, another top pick for the Giants. Mansoor Delaney could be the version of Keelan Rutledge. Rutledge you're talking about, like help turn around that defense at cornerback for the Chiefs.

23:21Akeem Mesidor, great camp for the Chargers. Jacob Rodriguez is going to be starting at linebacker for the Dolphins. That was about eight names, which I think no offense to last year's class, but would have gone into the year last year, maybe as a favorite of just over just about anyone that we had last year. So a really good rookie defensive class. Go ahead.

23:40Jourdan Rodrigue:It was cool to go through. I picked David Bailey with the Jets, not just because I think he's going to be outstanding, but also because I think he's going to play the most. Akeem Mesidor was a close second for me, but he'll still be in a three-man pass rush rotation. And then David Bailey is going to be really a featured player here. Pass rushers are usually very popular for this award. I really wanted to pick Caleb Downs, but I just thought statistically speaking, the eye-popping stats are more possible with David Bailey. I love that he had such a strong camp because he was going against the Jets tackles and their reporters saw him win over and over.

24:14And then same thing with the joint practices, same thing in preseason. So he backed it up. Patrick, who do you got? I have Mansoor Delane. I don't think Spags is going to put Delane in a bad position at all. And I think he will be in position to make plays to the extent where we've seen good corners and they're all playing for the Rams now. But we've seen good corners in Kansas City, but I don't think we've seen this level of talent for Spagnuolo. And so I think, as you do with your MVP pick, that it's like this resurgent Chiefs season. There's huge matchups like primetime against the Rams. And we're going to see Mansour Delane make enough plays to be in this conversation to eventually get him the vote.

24:54Jourdan Rodrigue:I think it helps him that Noel Williams was really good last year too because he's going to get thrown at. Mansour Delane is going to get thrown at. And I think that helps him rack up the statistics, to your point. For sure. In that aggressive defense, they really count on their cornerbacks. and I think that's a good one. I wrote down, I want to see what you guys choose first because they all seem so even. Just playing his own. No, no, this time I just wanted to be the third. I just wanted three different names. Sonny Stiles had a quiet camp so that scares me off of him just a little because the other guy's got such positive notes.

25:26I'll go with my heart here a little over my head and go Arvel Reese because I just love that dude and I thought he should have gone higher. Bain is a really strong... Yeah, I'm surprised none of us picked that up. Is a really strong option. He is the slight favorite for what it's worth, although all these guys have pretty close odds. But I love watching Arbel Reese play football. And back in the day, off-ball linebackers would routinely win this award because of what you mentioned about the edge rushers. They get stats. You know, you just see them making tackles, and I think he'll force some fumbles.

25:56Comeback player of the year. An admittedly vague award.

26:01Jourdan Rodrigue:Minus five points. Which I... No, not minus five points. You still get a point for this. And this is where the fact we're keeping score has me thinking. I'll let you go first because of that. Patrick. Okay. I have the comeback player of the year as Kyler Murray coming back from it being all his fault in the desert, finding a team that also had a person to blame and in solving that issue as well and fixing things for Justin Jefferson to the extent that he's Greg's offensive player of the year. Kyler Murray is my comeback player of the year. Kyler Murray is the third favorite. Now, in this category, there is a heavier favorite to win an award, specifically this one, Jordan, than there is in any other awards category by quite a bit.

26:51Can you guess who that player is?

26:53Jourdan Rodrigue:I was not paying attention to you just now. Oh, my God. Is it Patrick Mahomes? You've got to be present. We're in the studio. I was looking up a rule clarification. What rule? Our rules. We haven't even given out the point system yet. The Associated Press, I was remembering last year, they sent out an advisory that said the player has to come back from an injury or an illness. That was the advisory they sent out last year. I was just looking it up. Okay. Patrick Mahomes is the heaviest favorite in this award compared to any other player in any other award by far. Now, if I'm just playing the game, you can see him winning this award, but I also just picked him to win MVP.

27:32They're not going to give him both.

27:33Jourdan Rodrigue:Patrick Mahomes. is that going to be your pick too? If you're playing the game, I think that's, yeah, that's my pick. Good choice. Yeah. I'll go Aaron Donald. He's not coming back from an injury, but certainly you could give him comeback player of the year. He was my, he was my second choice. I don't know if the, these, this advisory will actually be followed. That's the thing. I just love that there's an advisory for, because it was Flacco, right? Because it was Flacco won it. Yeah. It's, there's an advisory for one of the more easily determined awards that nobody's ever argued over. Right. But MVP can be as nebulous as we possibly want.

28:05Well, because once they gave Philip Rivers the award for bouncing back from being the 17th best quarterback to the eighth, it made zero sense whatsoever. There's been a couple of times that happened. Aaron Donald literally didn't play football. He's coming back. So I feel like he qualifies.

28:20Jourdan Rodrigue:Part of it was one of the issues where the player who came back from his couch to play football won it over a player who's heart stopped on the football field. So I think in that case, we got a sternly worded. It was a sternly worded. That was a tough one. But yeah, Mahomes, I'm picking Mahomes, but I think Aaron Donald is a very close second. I love the Kyler pick because I do think that he will be very much in this conversation about, quote unquote, redemption, where maybe there didn't have to be even any redemption. Yeah. And I think that that makes it difficult because you're going to need the people who vote on this award to feel like there's some sort of thing there.

29:00but those are the people who are also willing to blame Kyler for everything that went wrong in Arizona. Well, you look at some of the principles involved and see how things are going for them right now. And you have some questions, even though my homes is such a favorite. There's so many incredible options because of how many big stars we lost last year to injury. Jaden Daniels, Malik neighbors, Micah Parsons, Fred Warner, Tucker craft, George Kittles. There's a lot of really good options. Daniel Jones is a lot of really good. I think Greg just named an all pro team.

29:30Jourdan Rodrigue:Yeah. Last award is Coach of the Year. And this could be a little preview of what's coming in the second half of our show because it matches up. I have D 'Amico. Damn it. Me too. I had a feeling. I think I picked him last year too. I have D 'Amico again. D 'Amico Ryan. He's never won the award. I went to check. He came in second once. I think he tied. How stupid is it to tie and then you don't get the award? It's stupid. Because we had Steve McNair, rest in peace, and Peyton Manning share an MVP once. Why not share coach of the year? I believe... Can you imagine? It was the Stefanski... The egos involved.

30:12Jourdan Rodrigue:Can you imagine? Like, okay, stand together and hold the flag. Okay. They each had 165 total points, him and Kevin Stefanski. But Stefanski had one more first place votes, and that's the tiebreaker. So someone probably had, you know, D 'Amico. I had Stefanski like third, but, you know, had him first. That is where you need to step in. Matt Ryan's on Instagram concerned about fairness. Like, tell Kevin to give that one. Right. Like, send that one to Houston. This is where, first of all, D 'Amico Ryan's was taking over a team that had won, I think, what, five games in two years combined and won 10.

30:50Second of all, this is where an awards commissioner just needs to step in and be like, we can't be giving Kevin Stefanski a second award here. This is not going to look good when he is falling asleep coaching up Jack Strand in week four of 2026.

31:04Jourdan Rodrigue:Just and and some coaches just keep on winning and keep on succeeding. And other coaches just sort of coast on the glory of a coach of the year award. Oh, wow. Bringing us to my coach of the year pick. Kevin O 'Connell wins coach of the year because like D 'Amico players come in. they have success early you never get the perception of wow this bad player really turned it around yeah under this coach and so he gets the ding because we take the players that he developed and say oh well well they're good we're here you have this heroic head coach who rescues players and brings them back uh from the depths of despair and kevin o 'connell wins another coach of the year that would be sad because that'll be the second time in three years it basically the only non And like he wins the award whenever JJ McCarthy is not as quarterback.

31:56Jourdan Rodrigue:Well, I was going to say that means they have to trade JJ, right? Because the reminder of this not working is right there. That is a long shot, by the way. Somebody wanting to trade for JJ? He is the 15th favorite. Can you guess, this surprises me, the favorite, maybe some of the favorites for coach of the year. Kyle Shanahan? No. My hint will be like none of the old standbys who are actually the best coaches of the year every year, like Shanahan and McVay and Andy Reid are anywhere close because it's all narrative. So that's that's ridiculous. So Minter, Jesse Minter, Minter is second. Kellen Moore is third.

32:39Salah's fourth. They like the new time coaches, which is the new coaches.

32:44Jourdan Rodrigue:Give me a hint for one. he's not going to win the best introductory speech to his team award oh Liam Cohen no Harbaugh I thought you were meant to introductory speech John Harbaugh I jumped the gun on you there solid favorite John Harbaugh is the favorite okay provides me with an opportunity to say lines are to spur action that I know it's a great point that I know we don't go too heavy in terms of the lines on this show but I thought it was instructive that was fun that was the awards and I can't wait to hear the sound effects and the music that Eric has for the rest of the show. Let's take a quick break.

33:23No pressure, Eric. Pressure is a privilege.

33:27Jourdan Rodrigue:My chair just kept sinking too. Billie Jean King. We'll hear the Super Bowl winners after the break. What happened to Patrick? My chair. I'm sunk.

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37:03That's firing me up. Firing me up to tell people about a scoring system. One point for every award, except for MVP. We get two points. One point for every division winner and wildcard team correctly named. Now, if you pick a division winner that ends up a wildcard or vice versa, no points. You got to get it exactly on what they actually earn. You get an extra point if you predict a team correctly into the conference championship, an extra point into the Super Bowl, and then another extra point for the correct Super Bowl champion. So if you got that Super Bowl champion right, that's four points right there.

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38:30This was one of my favorite weeks of the entire season. We have our over-under win totals. I did some making the leap picks with Brett Coleman. We had quarterback Island kicking off the week. And now we're really ending it in style, going through every division. Let's start with the AFC East, Patrick. I believe the Buffalo Bills will win the AFC East, and it's Bills, Patriots, the Dolphins bringing up the very last bit. The Jets fall in there in between the Patriots and the Finns, but it all shapes up. Not a lot of significant changes on offense. They get better on offense talent-wise. On defense, it's a mystery box, but it's it's safe to be chalky with Josh Allen I think they just have a higher floor I picked them too I want to change it to the Patriots for the purposes of this exercise and not all being the same and for picking what I root for which is generally what I do but like I said earlier in the week we had to put the picks down without knowing anyone else's picks on NFL.com 17 people picked the Bills including myself only two picked the Patriots That feels too mismatched, but I can't fault it because I was one of the two.

39:47I have real concerns about the Patriots defense in a way that I don't over anything specifically with the Bills.

39:54Jourdan Rodrigue:And their depth. And as even the head coach came out and made some pointed commentary on that. And that will really serve you well in October, November, December when you're trying to make a playoff push. I also picked the Buffalo Bills to win the AFC East. I think their upside on offense is even better. I love the pairing of Josh Allen with DJ Moore. I think that's going to be so much fun. Their run game is really good. Their offensive line remains good. Yeah, defense, like you said, it's a mystery box, but I really like some of the guys that are there, and I really like Jim Leonard, the new defensive coordinator.

40:31Yeah, he's a huge X factor. He could upgrade that defense, or he could make you miss Sean McDermott. We'll see. I have the Ravens as my AFC North pick. I think the NFL.com voters are instructive, just how people are kind of thinking. They got 10 votes, they being the Ravens, and the Bengals got nine, and no one else got any. I think that's pretty typical, that it's getting split, maybe a slight edge to the Ravens. A lot of my Ravens optimism, Patrick, is about the coaching, is about Minter upgrading the defensive coaching, and frankly them looking on paper like they have a little better depth defensively, especially up front than they did a year ago.

41:13So this was not a hard pick for me. No, and especially considering the rest of the division, I was very low on the Pittsburgh Steelers and the Cleveland Browns. And so that lifts up, obviously, the Ravens and the Bengals. The Ravens with a couple game advantage over Cincinnati, where it's not necessarily even homerism in my view. The way that the schedule specifically shakes out with some of the home road circumstances for the Bengals and the Ravens, as well as the primetime games. Where the confidence is there. You get the plus side of a couple of defenders where you didn't know during the Orr-Halbauer era if those defenders were going to pan out.

41:48Seen evidence of that in the preseason, enough to feel confident about it.

41:52Jourdan Rodrigue:I also picked the Ravens. I think I really like the points that you and Dave Damoshek, the great Dave Damoshek, made earlier this week on your show that the Cincinnati Bengals remind people a lot of the Dallas Cowboys in terms of their their variance or just how they're built or the certain elements that of the floors that have to be raised here I just am less high or certain on that because I can't trust that the quarterback will stay healthy and I trust that when the quarterback is healthy he's elite I like what they're doing they're not being shy about changing their their scheme that the Cincinnati Bengals it's just that I also I also look at a team like the Baltimore Ravens and they're also going under in offensive scheme change.

42:34Jourdan Rodrigue:And I just believe it so much more. I believe in it so much more. And I believe that the defense will be so much better. And this is just going to be a wagon, honestly, the Baltimore Ravens. So I really, I think that to me, when I'm thinking about even teams, when we go through like our wild cards and stuff, like it's getting kind of scary for a couple of these very, very high variance teams of not maybe not even making it. I would include the Bengals and the Patriots in that. the AFC is just so deep in general. The West is just skewing everything in favor of the West, really. The South could make the case for depth two.

43:12Do we all have the Texans winning it?

43:13Jourdan Rodrigue:Yes. I do not. I have the Jacksonville Jaguars winning the division. A little diversity. And the Texans ruining somebody's very good season getting in at 12-5 where these two teams and not to spoil anything just kind of make things very difficult for the Dimes bounce back season. And it is the Jags and Texans just wrecking everybody else, also beating each other up because I have them splitting their games. But just far and away, at least in terms of top heaviness, maybe not as even as the West, but those two teams, two of the best teams. I suspect we'll talk more Texans coming up with the conference title and who knows beyond that.

43:52So we'll put a pin in that for now. But I do think it's a big two here. and man, I felt bad. Like they were one of my favorite win total picks, Jaguars. And yet you do have to let some teams go when you're picking these playoff teams because they're on paper, like someone's really going to get disappointed. There's nine or 10 teams. I don't have a lot of hot takes of like who's going to be really disappointing, but someone's going to wind up being that. Like Colts fans even think that they have a chance and they should after how last season started. In the AFC West, you said great division. Who do you have on top?

44:25and since we're getting there, you can mention who else you have in the wild card from this division if you have any.

44:34Jourdan Rodrigue:Yeah, I do. I have the Broncos winning the AFC West and I have three AFC West teams making the playoffs this year, inclusive to the Chargers and the Chiefs. So I have the Chiefs winning the division. I'm staying consistent when we did the division and did the order. I went back and forth all three of these teams, but I did the same thing Jordan did and put three teams from the West into the playoffs as my second and third wildcard teams, the Chargers and the Broncos. Did you have three AFC West teams? I had two. I had two because I have the New England Patriots getting in 12 and five. And the Kansas City Chiefs finishing second in the division with the Denver Broncos going back-to-back AFC West champions and the start of the Davis Webb sweepstakes.

45:17As soon as they get that division championship wrapped up, the interviews will begin.

45:23Jourdan Rodrigue:Then what is it? The Bengals? It could be. It could. I mean, these, these teams that are out. Yeah. Over on this side. Well, we have an Eric B enemy sweepstakes. If the chiefs, you know, offense just turns it around. Probably not based on his college experience and his experiences interviewing at an NFL level, but he is part of the reason in the end. I feel like it's sometimes better to pick without thinking too deeply. and to me it's more just like it's Patrick freaking Mahomes in a season where they're expected to come in third by some people but plenty of others I mean they're over under it's not like there's some Cinderella's 10 and a half wins I just think they will find a way and somehow be rejuvenated like with a bit of a fresh start and they got to play less football last year that's not that's not a bad thing that's a real thing yeah it's a real thing I think it's a real benefit to them.

46:16Jourdan Rodrigue:And you mentioned Eric Biennemi and I really love what he will infuse into this offense that the run game, but also the way that he marries the run and the pass together. We'll see a lot of the Patrick Mahomes when Patrick Mahomes was thriving out of a bunch of different alignments a few years ago. I we're going to see all of that. And I really I really can't wait to see what we get from this. I have the Pats as my first wildcard team. I do think they're going to be good this season, double digit wins. We'll talk about them a little more at length going into that kickoff game, Jordan, you and I, but I just think their route is simple.

46:54It's being a top five offense, having just one of the best passing games in the NFL again, like on paper, it looks better in year two of a complicated offense. And by a lot of efficiency metrics, They were the best last year throwing the football. And so I think that gets lost that like Drake may can get better. The passing game can get better. And that it's a flawed team that I think is going to be very entertaining to watch. And so that's why I have them as a wild card, not as the division winner. But I like them getting in. You had the Pats in. You had the Jaguars and the Texans in. And you had the two.

47:30We already know your teams. You had the Chiefs in as a wild card. Is that what you said? Yeah. Chiefs in the wild card. That's yours.

47:36Jourdan Rodrigue:I had the Jaguars in. Okay. You had the Jags. So cards on the table. I had the Jaguars out. That one hurt me the most. Whoa. Liam Cohen. I like it. It helps my pick because Coach Cohen will clip that, show the team. Show the team. But you know what? They were one of my highest picks in our win totals draft because eight and a half just felt outrageous. So I do think they're going to be good. They're not going to care about that. They're not going to care about that. That's not motivating. Small text at the bottom of the bulletin board where it's like. They're also not my pick for the You Let Us Down Biggest Disappointment Team Award.

48:13If this is a award. There's no way to get points for this one, to be clear. Unless Eric decides at the end of the year. Why don't we give the responsibility to Eric? Eric.

48:24Jourdan Rodrigue:Yeah, let's give Eric more work. Maybe it's a tiebreaker. I think Eric decides who's the winner of the AFC's You Let Us Down Biggest Disappointment Team. Yeah, we'll officially put this as a tiebreaker. If anyone ties, this will be the tiebreaker. And Eric will decide it. Although, who knows? We might have the same teams by the sound of it. I've vacillated back and forth. I will go Colts because they're a good team in a tough division. Maybe it's not fair to say you let us down disappointed. Like to me, and I'm not trying to sway future January, Eric. Fun season. We had a good time, Eric. I know I can be a jerk sometime, but I think we made a great product and we learned a lot about each other.

49:10I'm saying the Colts, if the Colts win eight games, that's not a biggest disappointment to me, even seven or eight games. To me, the Colts' biggest disappointment if they kind of bought them out, which I think is a possibility. You know what I mean? If they win eight games, that's fine.

49:24Jourdan Rodrigue:I don't have them making the playoffs, so I can't be disappointed by them is kind of how I read it. Well, in theory, any team that is your biggest disappointment would be. It's the Patriots for me. Okay. Because to go from being in the literal Super Bowl and missing the playoffs, to me, that would be the biggest disappointment. The only reason is, A, because I think the AFC West is so strong, and I think the Jaguars and Texans ceilings are so high, that this just absolutely is a numbers game, and it just someone is miserable by the end of this, right? And I love that for the AFC in general because it's going to be fun football.

49:59Jourdan Rodrigue:but I look at their schedule. I look at again, the depth concerns. I look at just, uh, I think that this offense is going to be just fine. I don't see them being able to be maybe as, as multiple as other teams are, which would really help them. I'm not convinced on their, the sustainability of their run game. I'd like to see that improve. And I just, I just don't know. And their schedule is, is dense. So for me that they just sort of had, they were the odd man. Plus it's a good, it's good podcast move. Just a little, Well, I learned so much from you as you continue to attempt to mold me in your image.

50:31I'm not trying. If that's just what naturally happens by being around greatness, then, you know, that's good influence. You give the man an electric car and an MVP vote, it's all over. CX5, Greg, is gone. I miss it. I miss the CX5 life, I got to say. I might go back. I'll let you know how it is. Yeah. I like parking right next to Patrick with our matching cars. The Bengals are my pick. And I could be falling victim to the thing that happens in offseason sometime where, like, back in March and April, I think I was very high on the Bengals and then just I got sick of it over time and everyone's high on the Bengals.

51:16New scheme. Coaches I don't really believe in. An offensive line I don't really believe in. It's a bad combo. and then you could read the Joe Burrow like urgency and all this stuff is like you really need to do that you know the real ones don't need to do that Joey B is happy Joey B is happy you know it's almost like voicing your biggest fears so that would be the Bengals and to me they if they miss the playoffs at all that's a big disappointment if they have a losing record forget about it let's do the Vibes Awards at the end let's go to the NFC East where the voters at NFL.com chose the Dallas Cowboys.

51:57The biggest surprise I saw in terms of just consensus over the Philadelphia Eagles. By the way, in the West, the Broncos got eight votes, the Chargers got seven, and the Chiefs got four. So split pretty well between those three, which makes a lot of sense. To me, do you have the Cowboys or the Eagles, Jordan?

52:15Jourdan Rodrigue:I have the Cowboys. I think that it's not that I doubt the Eagles. I think the Eagles are going to be really interesting to follow this year. I just think the Cowboys have all of the elements in the equation to ultimately achieve this. Their offense is not getting worse, in my opinion. High-level quarterback play, good run game, great receivers, really, really good, two-great offensive line, and a lifted floor on defense. So to me, I think that they—and good special teams. So to me, in every phase, I just think they're they are so quality. I think they're really well coached. I think that this is just going to be a group that will earn the hype that it gets this year.

52:59Have them as my second wildcard team. I like what you said about the offensive line. A lot's on Clayton Adams and the front. Man, I think they have a high variance offensive line. If you told me they have a great offensive line, then the Super Bowl is possible. This this to me could be they could be average. It could be a little below average. They could be great, which is why I love taking the Eagles. I mean, to me, as I sat with it more, it's a little cuckoo puffs to not just view the Eagles as the juggernaut that they've been, that they win 11 games in bad seasons, that their roster is awesome.

53:31And so I'm just going to stick with the Eagles because whenever I don't, they make me regret it.

53:35Jourdan Rodrigue:I think they'll have one of the top three defenses in football. You have them as one of your wild cards. Yeah, and whether it's one to three, I just don't know. Do you have both these teams in, Patrick? I do not have both. Ooh. Give us the spice now. Why not? I have the Dallas Cowboys in, and I have the Philadelphia Eagles out. Are they your biggest disappointment you let us down? Because if they're out, they're an extremely strong candidate, but they don't have to be that award. Yeah. No, it was the spoiler alert. The Eagles would be the biggest disappointment team. After winning 11 games in a division that is exceedingly top-heavy to me, one of the more top-heavy teams.

54:10But I, you know, again, perhaps the comeback player of the year. Wait, you have them missing the playoffs but winning 11 games? The Eagles? I do. Now, this is bad podcasting. You're trying to have your cake and eat it, too. That's a great season, 11 wins. It's great. It's a great season. But at the end of the season, if they're not in, it's going to be a big disappointment because of the talent that they have.

54:31Jourdan Rodrigue:It's great podcasting. I want. I have one division getting three games in. And so it's going to be tough for the Philadelphia Eagles, as I have Dallas running away, honestly. Well, not running away. It's three-game lead over the Eagles and getting the bye, honestly. Wow. Okay. Because I have horrible seasons for the Commanders and the Giants. Good move. Yeah. Do any of us have either one of those teams? No. No. So I still like the Cowboys plenty. Good offense, good schedule with those two teams. NFC North, I suspect, could be mixed up. Let's start with Patrick. The Minnesota Vikings. Wow! After a tiebreaker.

55:13Jourdan Rodrigue:You just had to give him some time. Yeah, over the Detroit Lions. They both finished 12-5, but the Vikings get the division championship, leaving two very, very good teams. A crazy season. 11-6 Green Bay Packers out of the playoffs. 10-7 Chicago Bears out of the playoffs. You're just giving everyone a participation trophy. everyone wins 11 games and yet they somehow don't make the playoffs. in the conference winning one game. Okay, yeah. That's how. He balanced it out. I need to see how that even works out. I don't know if it's possible. Wait, who are those two teams that only win one game? Well, no, the Falcons win two games.

55:48The Giants win two games. The Commanders win one. The Giants win two. That is, wait, how many did the Commanders win? One. One. I just went through and picked. Okay. I just went through and picked. You've made, oh, wow, You went through every game and I picked every game. And so the commanders, it was the only way to make sure that I didn't have 17 teams. I don't know if you're able to pull this up quickly, but you are saying, I'm just doing the math in my head that in games, I'm assuming you had the giants and the commander split, correct? Yes. Okay. So in games, when they were not playing one another, they went one in 31.

56:30And I'm curious where and what that victory was. But you believe the Giants? After the show, we will click back through this. You know, just for Giants and Commanders fans out there, when you two bums don't play each other, you will go 131. Who is the team? The Giants got a second win in there somewhere. The Giants got a second win. I'll let you handle that. I don't know how we got there. I got the Vikings in the playoffs too, by the way. Let's just talk NFC North. I thought I was being cute with the Vikings as a playoff team. I was like, man, my picks are a little too chalky. So I had them as my last wildcard team.

57:10But I have the Lions winning the division. Who do you have?

57:12Jourdan Rodrigue:I have the Packers winning the NFC North. I have the Lions also making the playoffs. I do not have the Vikings. So none of us, even though we all did the thing where we gave the Bears a good record, I actually went over on them, I think, for their win total. I didn't take it on the show, but if I had to choose, I probably would. And yet none of us have them in the playoffs. That's what the Bears fans would call it. I mean, I've got the entire division within two games. It could be a coin flip. And the answer to your question was the Cleveland Browns Sunday in week 15 travel to MetLife Stadium to take on the Giants.

57:47Where did the Browns end up? One in 16.

57:54People really People really arching their back For Mr. Manning That's the phrase we're trying to get going I'm sorry, what? Inappropriate You know you know What? NFC South is the division I feel the strongest about Family planning for Manning I think that's good.

58:27I stole mine.

58:29Jourdan Rodrigue:Take a break. I stole mine. We can't take a break. The Buccaneers in the NFC South are my favorite favorite for any division. I think there's a gap. I think they're significantly more talented. I think they bounce back. I think defense is excellent this year. And they're closer to an Eagles Lions that category of teams than they are to the rest of the riffraff in the NFC South? What about you guys? I picked my beloved Carolina Panthers to repeat win the NFC South. That does make the Bucs my biggest disappointment team. Yeah. They occupy an interesting space coming into the season. I feel like their vibes and the Falcons' vibes are both a little shaky where they're on awkward footing where you could have a quarterback unhappy, a coach on the hot seat.

59:21So I could see it going poorly. And yeah, I just think their players are excellent at playing football and so they win games and prevent any of that from happening what about you yeah i have jalen phillips and devin lloyd being what it takes to take the panthers defense to the next level and growth on offense with bryce and dave canales back together again panthers win the division and i'll i'll keep the win totals uh well this one actually makes sense uh nine and eight panthers win the division uh eight and nine saints second place the eight and nine bucks and then a two and 15 atlanta falcon

59:53Jourdan Rodrigue:Wait, who are the two? Well, you don't have to look it up. No, that's having my back. They were my number one overall pick in our either win total draft. They said under Falcons was my favorite. I wish we had you on NFL.com in general, Patrick and Jordan, but especially for the diversity we could have used in the NFC South picks. Two Panthers picks here. That's two more than all of NFL.com. We had 17 Bucks picks and two Saints picks. No one was on the Panthers. I'm kind of surprised. Well, you see the talent of the Bucs roster. That's the thing. But for me, I'm always super wary if a team has that many questions around some of the head coaching job, around some of the players that the franchise is willing to move on from.

1:00:38Jourdan Rodrigue:Some of the partial measures that seem were one foot in the last era, one foot in the new era. I want Baker Mayfield to thrive. But today at TheAthletic.com, my esteemed colleague, Zach Kiefer, one of our great writers in sports that we have, has a story about Baker Mayfield and how he's basically playing against his own front office this year. So that, to me, I just, you know, the vibes. I'm a little wary. We've seen good examples of that in the past. It can work. I mean, Lamar Jackson, I feel like, is doing the same thing. Lamar Jackson is not Baker Mayfield. No. Vice versa. Baker Mayfield is not Lamar Jackson.

1:01:14Jourdan Rodrigue:Right. I do think it's a little underplayed, and we'll make sure to correct that because we are. the NFL media. That Lamar Jackson has a chance to change the salary structure for quarterbacks in a way that we thought he might previously. If he forces himself to free agency this year, which feels possible based on his contract. Well, we'll see. We saw a collective effort. A union, if you will, to collaborate to make sure that didn't happen last night. That's true. Alright, let's go to the NFC West. Do we all have the Rams winning or does someone want to throw a bone to the Seahawks? I have the defending Super Bowl champions winning the NFC.

1:01:56Let's go. Not a single person on NFL.com including myself picked the Seahawks to win the division and not a single person picked them to win the Super Bowl either. Wow. This is just it's just icky. I have the Seahawks as my number one wildcard team to try to make up for it. So do I. Why do you have them over the Rams, Patrick? I think in terms of maintaining at least some aspect of what they had on offense, I understand the coordinator change. You bring in an offensive coordinator in Brian Fleury, who the 49ers ran the second most outside zone in the NFL. When Jadarian Price was running the outside zone again, it's at Notre Dame.

1:02:37He averaged seven yards a carry. I think they can maintain success in the run game, and you get another darn old season with these players, even if it's a different system, he's back with these players. And I understand the cornerback departure is significant for your number two corner, Enrique Willen, but not significant enough for me to hate the defense now. And this group of veterans is still really good, so I believe. Yeah, I love this team.

1:03:09Jourdan Rodrigue:I love this team. I think they're so – to me, they don't drop off. there. The questions will be answered very quickly into the season about these guys. And those questions to me include their cornerback depth right now with some injuries. Nick Imanwari, still not sure whether or not he's going to start the season. Seems like some days he will, and then other days he won't. Their third corner, that being a little bit of a question mark, is something we're going to talk about on the previous show. But that, to me, those are not long-term problems. Those are short-term problems. And I actually think the potential of Sam Darnold having a better season is upon us, frankly.

1:03:44And look, sometimes champions come back and they still, this happens in the NBA a lot, but it happens in the NFL too. We've seen it with the Eagles teams after they make the Super Bowls. They start off with still that same mindset. And it's about proving that you can finish as strong as you did the previous season. Like the Seahawks finished so strong November, December. What team do they turn into? The schedule I think is a little harder this year. You know, when their offense was struggling down the stretch last year, they were helped out a little bit by some opponents where their defense got to just strangle other teams.

1:04:14But man, I just think these are the two best teams in the NFL by a decent amount. And people just don't recognize like how dominant they were as a Super Bowl team. So Jordan and I have the Rams. We talked Seahawks. I have the Cowboys. I failed to mention as one of my wildcard teams and the Vikings. I did mention as my third, which means I do not have three NFC West teams. And then the 49ers get my you let us down biggest disappointment team. I don't feel it with my entire chest, but going through this NFC, the NFC North is stacked and the NFC West is stacked. Someone has to get left behind and they just have more questions than other teams.

1:04:54They just have more age and I'll never doubt Kyle Shanahan's ability to coach it up, but I do see some losing record on his mark that you don't see with McVay, for instance. and it does still stick in my head that they've lost by a combined score of 54 to 9 last year. So to the Seahawks down the stretch. So I know a lot of players are back and everything, but it's not a big three until they prove it. To me, it's a big two. And then the 49ers, it's tough to come in third and make the playoffs.

1:05:23Jourdan Rodrigue:Yeah, I agree with your take on the two best teams in football. And because the Seahawks, you know, they won the way they did last year, I sort of flipped it this year just in terms of when I used to watch those epic 49ers Rams back and forth when, you know, Kyle Shanahan wasn't just dominating that entire series in a one-sided fashion. When they started to really go blow for blow, it would always happen where it would be like, okay, you get two and then I get the next one. Then I get the next two and then you get the next one. So I sort of went with that a little bit more rhythmically for how I think this is going to go.

1:05:57Jourdan Rodrigue:And I actually, I just, the Eagles roster is so good. I just don't, I know there, there's a lot of uncertainty, but even when the Eagles completely hit a wall and we're creaking to like their 10 win season and that finish after their, when their Superbowl hangover, they still were the Eagles, you know, they still were like one of the best rosters we've seen in, in modern football. And I just think this is, this is the third, but in my opinion right now, this is the third best team in football. Who the Eagles. So how are they the biggest letdown team? No, no, they're not the 49ers for me. I agree.

1:06:30Jourdan Rodrigue:I agree with you. I'm saying I have the Eagles and the lions also in the playoff. Okay. Yeah. Wild cards. Yeah. Got it. I got confused. No, the 40, I'm with you. The bucks and the 49ers are my, are my letdown teams. You went multiple. Um, well, I just have enough disappointment because the, at some point, Eric future, Eric looking great, by the way, I think the haircut makes a lot of sense. Um, I like you showing off the leg tats more often in the office, uh, under NFL media leadership. some great leg tats that you just don't see out of Eric enough. He's getting uncomfortable. But I think for the interest of future Eric, who I'm speaking to, you have to pick one team for the tiebreaker.

1:07:08Jourdan Rodrigue:The Bucks. Okay. Yeah. All right. So my wild card race essentially comes down to those last couple of weeks. And the biggest reason that I have the 49ers in and the Eagles out. Yeah. 49ers play host to the Eagles on January 3rd. That's so much more work than I did. No. Some people are calling this the greatest wild card race of all time. Everyone goes 11 and six. And what a win for Roger Goodell and all of us down the stretch. But that's why it could be a horrible situation for either the 49ers fans, the Eagles fans, or the Packers fans, or the Bears, right? Where everybody's going to be in that range in the final three weeks.

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1:12:06Back On what Us Weekly is calling The most important NFL Daily episode Episode? Ever recorded

1:12:16Jourdan Rodrigue:You're doing great Late night at the BTS show Let me tell you Nice It was fun Chaperoning my wife Ow! There might have been more just pure happiness in SoFi Stadium than when the Rams won the Super Bowl. It was just a lot of nice people enjoying a nice time. I had fun. Such good vibes in this podcast studio when the three of us get together that we give the floor to our friend Jordan Rodrigue for explaining whatever is the Vibes Award and awarding one of them. Yeah, you couldn't choose this award based on any data off of any predictions or, you know, line projections or desert projections. It could only, you could only choose whoever or however you wanted to crown this team based solely on the fact on the vibes that you, that she sort of felt around them all through training camp.

1:13:17Jourdan Rodrigue:For that reason, I think that the most likely vibes Superbowl appearance team is probably the Buffalo Bills. The vibes are so good over there right now. everyone's having fun everybody seems to have loosened the expectations a little bit and i really like the like again the apparent chemistry already between josh allen and dj more now really really good vibes can go south and hurry if you start losing games i hope they you know they keep the good vibes going but man out of training camp i don't know if there was a better vibes team than the buffalo bills sneaky good vibe off season it's been quiet there relatively for a new head coach and an MVP quarterback.

1:13:56Good vibes. Which is a good sign. I think Dave Canales' vibes could power the earth, what he's brought to Carolina. So I'm afraid not picking them to win the division. But similar to yours, I do think taking John Harbaugh out of that building after a little while and putting in some younger head coaches, you got all the players talking about all the attention to details. sometimes it's just time for a new start. It's time for a new relationship. The last relationship worked out better than you could have ever expected. It's getting a little stale and now they got a new regime and a place that needed it.

1:14:35I think the vibes are going to power the Ravens hopefully to the moon. If I'm picking purely based on vibes it does also happen to be a very good team. The Jacksonville Jaguars win a vibe championship in a community in Duval where they deserve the team to be this good. They've been through some rough times. And purely based on the season that I think Travis Hunter can have smile-wise, just an electric glowing smile when he makes plays, it's going to light up that building and it's going to provide a lot of positive attention to the people of Jacksonville and the vibes are going to be through the roof.

1:15:13What is the ad where all the NFL players are practicing their celebrations? Have you seen that yet? It's been in heavy, heavy rotation. But Travis Hunter is giving his all. Like Josh Downs is there. There's different players. But his vibes pops off the screen in a way that no other player does. He's just joy personified.

1:15:34Jourdan Rodrigue:That's one of the things that is so magnetic about him as a player is he's just joy. He just is. I can't wait. We get him back. We get him back on the field, you guys. You know what would have been good podcasting is checking out the odds for Travis Hunter defensive player of the year. That would have been easy getting in the mix there. Okay, we've done it. We've reached the portion of the program where we start to pick the final four teams of the NFL. This is where it's really on Eric to give us some inspiring type music. Let's start in the AFC with Patrick Claiborne. In the AFC, I have the Jacksonville Jaguars traveling to take on the Baltimore Ravens for a shot to go to the Super Bowl.

1:16:24And who's going to win this game, Patrick? Liam Cohen and the Jacksonville Jaguars win the Super Bowl in the AFC. Let's go. Can you explain what happens in this game, specifically in the fourth quarter? In the fourth quarter of this game, the Jacksonville Jaguars are trailing by five. Yes. Trevor Lawrence has two dump off passes to Basial Tootin to get over on the Baltimore Ravens side of the field as the clock ticks down. Liam Cohen takes a timeout. During that timeout, Travis Hunter comes onto the field. There's a lot of discussion as he goes into motion. Ravens defenders are pointing at each other.

1:17:04And then Trevor Lawrence drops back and hits Parker Washington for 47 yard touchdown. And the people of Baltimore are very sad. And I am very sad. And I will come in here and podcast immediately after probably with tears in my eyes. Oh, we've been together for some tough Ravens moments. That would be at least this time. It wouldn't be somebody fumbling. It'd be a great play. And you have an affection for the Jaguars, I would say. and it sounds like Lamar Jackson had a great season and a game in that scenario. Maybe that would ease the pain. No, not at all. How about the fact that you predicted all of it exactly correct, and then we played it on the show, including the part where you said you come into the show teary-eyed, and that winds up being the part that's not true because we played it for you, and it made you happy.

1:17:55It made me happy? Just being able to podcast with you in this situation. A lot of time-space continuum nonsense happening in this show. I'll let Jordan tell us about her AFC championship next.

1:18:09Jourdan Rodrigue:My AFC champions are the Houston Texans. And that's really all I have to say about it. I had a feeling it was going this way. We've been fighting over them. We've been staking our claims as early in the offseason as possible. My argument is whoever went to go see them in person gets to stake the claim. How about whoever's flesh and blood has been rooting for them? There it is. Oh, I see. Hold the kid card. How about the best podcast move is actually not splitting up. Is presenting a semi-united front. That the AFC South is going to the Super Bowl regardless, by the way. That doesn't happen too often.

1:18:53The Jaguars are going. Justice for the AFC South. And that two-thirds of this crew today have the Texans go into the Super Bowl. And that, yes, we extend a little bit of the pain for fictional Patrick in this scenario with the Texans beating the Ravens in this particular game, the AFC Championship. So the Ravens make it close. And yet it's an entirely different game than the one that he imagined. Unfortunately, it's a showcase for one of the greatest defenses we've ever seen. And they win 9-3. It's in Baltimore, so bad weather affected it. And they were actually down 3-2 late in the game when Woody Marks rips off a run that ends up being the difference.

1:19:50You kick the extra point, you win 9-3. So they got the nine in a very.

1:19:54Jourdan Rodrigue:Wow. Did you have a conference championship game loser? Or did I miss it? No, I just, I read, I picked exactly how I read it. Conference. I said game results. Okay. Well, you gotta literally the conference title game results. You have both teams. Sometimes you get a lot of heat for being the robot on this show, Greg, but I think sometimes it's me in my brain that does it. That's, that's fair. If you need. I can do extra minutes. I can see. I could give you my NFC pick. We could get into the NFC picks and you could eventually get your AFC runner up when you do your NFC. No, I think it'll be Texans over Ravens.

1:20:31Jourdan Rodrigue:Wow. Okay. Simpatico. Right now. Identical AFC picks. We live or die together. This is how I keep getting invited back to NFL. No, this is going to be good. I like that we're going to be on the same side here. Let's start the NFC with Patrick as well, because this will give Jordan time to think of a NFC type of game. Oddly enough, with the way that I had the division shaking out, it's a rematch between the Rams and the Carolina Panthers. Whoa! No, not in the championship. Oh, okay. To start things off, the San Francisco 49ers getting a win over the Seahawks in the divisional round. So it's 49ers losing to the Dallas Cowboys.

1:21:18The Rams beating Minnesota Vikings in an NFC championship game. It is Rams, Cowboys, Rams go to the Super Bowl.

1:21:25Jourdan Rodrigue:Wow. I like that. And because you are so good at reading off what was clearly not improvised earlier in what happens in this game. I actually want to know what happens in the third quarter of this game. In the third quarter of the Rams, Cowboys, NFC championship. Yeah, this is the part. Is this close? What's happening? Yeah, no, because it's in Dallas as they won the NFC East. And the third quarter is really where the folks at AT &T Stadium start to believe. It's a home game. Yeah, it's a home game. There's a big George Pickens catch, oddly enough, down the left side of the sideline where it's not in Green Bay, but where Dez actually caught the ball.

1:22:00George Pickens makes a similar play, reaches around Tremend Duffy, and it's a touchdown for the Dallas Cowboys. They go up by four at the end of the third. The fourth quarter is where Miles Garrett and Matthew Stafford take over, and the Rams are going back to the Super Bowl. I love that. I love the...

1:22:18Jourdan Rodrigue:Patrick, you're amazing. The story. I have the Rams over the Seahawks. I did not want to get it twisted. I wanted to imagine a world that I want to live in where the Seahawks and the Rams become a little bit like the 49ers and the Cowboys back in the 90s, where for a certain stretch, they really were the two best teams that we had these superpower teams that were different and loading up and trying to beat each other. And it's all about each other. And that for the second straight season, a team from that division, yeah, gets out of the wild card, wins a couple road games. The problem is this time it's played in Los Angeles.

1:22:59The Rams are at home and they do get the win. They get the Seahawks back in the conference championship.

1:23:05Jourdan Rodrigue:I love that in terms of the drama between the two teams because these two teams are such heavyweights. And I think all of their focus this offseason on each other makes either of these two teams just prime for the takedown by the Philadelphia Eagles. Wow. They were the original thorn in the Rams side over the 2023 and 2024. And even at times it's still. Didn't beat them last year either. Still 2025 season. So I have the Rams over the Eagles. Finally, finally getting back. Oh, you had me excited. All of that. Now, that's the thing is any one of those three teams to me, because of how well they play each other and how intense those games are, this is so fun.

1:23:53Jourdan Rodrigue:To me, it's those guys and then everybody else. So it was my fault. I don't think you intentionally okie-doked me there. I thought you were stunning me with an Eagles going to the Super Bowl, but it was the big upset. They get past the Seahawks. No, you had too much faith in me there. Yeah, that would have been surprising. You have the Rams in. I have the Rams in. we have the exact same Super Bowl right now again. We might have the same winner too. We are united.

1:24:20Patrick, who are you putting your belief by? And this is an important part of the scoring system. Remember, you get a total of four points if you get the Super Bowl champion right. If you had this Super Bowl result right, each one of these teams already would have earned you three points. You'd be in great position. Would be, hypothetically. Who? Patrick Claibon's Super Bowl championship. This is really the end of the Patrick Claibon offseason. The next time you're on the show, like we're talking season. Yes. The season that leads up to this, where there's so much buildup and there's disappointment on the AFC side as the Ravens can't get there.

1:24:56Disappointment for the Cowboys and disappointment for the Jacksonville Jaguars as they lose to the overwhelming Super Bowl favorite Los Angeles. Sorry, everybody. I wanted a world where for some reason, Liam Cohen, like leaving for Kentucky at the wrong time was like a huge story. I guess it would be leading into that Superbowl regardless, but that it was the pupil beating the mentor in a big spot, man, that would hurt Sean McVay if he lost to Liam Cohen, but instead it's, it's Sean McVay's second Superbowl title. I mean, they've, they've taken the steps here. They lost in the wildcard round. They lost in the divisional round.

1:25:35They lost in the conference championship game in order. But you know what that means, Jordan? They're due to losing the freaking Super Bowl. They're due to lose in another one of the greatest defensive performances that we've ever seen by the Super Bowl champion, Houston, Texas. That's right, people. Going with my heart, going with my head, Going with a world in which the Rams make every prediction happen until the very end, the moment that they didn't, and that this pass rush and that this defense ultimately keyed, and I'm sorry to do this to Kyron Williams, by a forced fumble returned by Aziz Alshair, is the difference in a 16-13 Super Bowl victory.

1:26:30Jourdan Rodrigue:16 to 13. Now, are we going to... That's high scoring. Are we going in all the way together? You already knew who I was going to pick. I told you who my Super Bowl pick was. I didn't know that. I didn't know who your winner was necessarily. The Houston Texans are my Super Bowl. Wow! They were also my Super Bowl pick last year, to state that for the record, too. Well, that was a bad pick last year. That was a bad pick last year by me. But the Houston Texans, to me, again, if their offense can get to top 12, top 15, this defense is one of the most special groups I have ever seen on a football field and has a chance to be one of the most historically special groups on a football field this season.

1:27:17Jourdan Rodrigue:And they are together. They're also a vibes pick for me in the same ways that you feel the Seahawks really being together and really felt that all year last year, you feel that from this Houston Texans team. And I think it'll be lower scoring than that. I did not pick a score because, you know, I'm still me at the end of the day. But I think it'll be Texans over Rams. I think it'll be incredibly low scoring. I think that for the real, you know, in the weeds, football insane people, like it's going to be just glory for all of us sitting here to watch something like this. It's going to be fun. I love that.

1:27:59And before anyone listening is like, oh, the media, they're so high on the Texans. Why do you like the Texans? It just happens to be the two of the three of us in this studio. I mean, look, if you wanted to go and...

1:28:11Jourdan Rodrigue:I don't think they're the favorite. It's three of them. I have them winning 12 games. Yes. Who hasn't? They are the number nine favorite. tied between 9 and 12 favorite. There are eight teams ahead of him in the desert. The Rams, Bills, Ravens, Seahawks, Chiefs, Chargers, Patriots, Eagles. And then it's a four-way tie between the 49ers, Lions, Texans, and Packers. So this is not a consensus pick. Although two people out of 19 at NFL.com did pick the Texans to win the Super Bowl. The most people picked the Rams with the Bills next on that list. What a time it's been. Play that music. We have reached the end of what I consider the offseason road.

1:28:59What contributions? Thank you, Jordan. Thank you for joining me. We're going to live and die together. Now you have to do this. You like the Texans do. You know, we like each other. You like the AFC South. I do. I think it's a good division. Two teams are really good. Can we get some teams into the Super Bowl that have never been there before? Like the Jaguars, like the Texans.

1:29:23get an AFC South champion. It's been a while since that Colts team. The offseason was fun, but you know what's more fun? The season. On Monday, we will be previewing for the first time an actual NFL game. Jordan and I will talk about the kickoff game between the Seahawks and the Patriots, and we'll talk about the Melvin game between the 49ers and the Rams. That's coming Monday. We'll get into our regular season programming next week. The previews, the recaps, all of it. We cannot wait to hear that. Scams don't always look like scams anymore. AI can make a fake ticket offer look legit or a sportsbook text sound official.

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