Teams We Are Most Curious to See with Mina Kimes

26:39Well, if Hunter looks as good as I think he can, and he played a little bit of corner last year, and I thought he looked like he belonged. I really feel comfortable with putting this defense in the top seven. I had them in my top 10 defenses pod. Okay. I think they're extremely balanced. They're extremely well coached. It's interesting because right now when you look at the defense, like they don't, like Josh Heinz Allen is kind of like a, just outside that star tier, right? But he's very good and honestly underrated. But outside of that, it's a defense full of like really good players. But do they have stars?

27:20maybe Travis Hunter could be that star. He certainly was drafted to be that star. And then suddenly, you know, I just feel like this looks like one of the more balanced teams in the NFL in terms of like, I like when I did top 10 offenses and top 10 defenses. And obviously there's some, you know, obvious choices, the Rams, you know, for example, Jags are one of the few teams in the NFL where I think they have the potential to be a elite unit on both sides of the ball. I remember hearing that from you, and I remember this is like a rare mean to take that I disagree with, and that's good. I look at their defense, and I think, isn't this a prime regression candidate?

28:00They had a ton of turnovers last year. On paper, it's not great. I like what you said about the Travis Hunter star, because I can't kind of have it both ways. I mean, I think he, if you told me he's a top five cornerback this year, I don't think that's crazy ascension from where we thought he was going to be as a prospect. and as a player. But man, no Devin Lloyd, like the linebacker position, definitely is question marks the entire secondary outside of Hunter. I just don't know. Like they won a lot with turnovers and scheme last year, but can you repeat that? Oh man, I think the secondary is good.

28:31Monteric Jackson, Jordan Lewis, Jerrion Jones is dead. Antonio Johnson's a rising. There's a lot of, there's no like stars, but there's a lot of really good players. I also think they're really well coached and keeping their defensive coordinator at the camp is good. I like that they are a high variance team because if it hits, you just said it like top 10 offense, top 10 defense. I've always been a little Lauren skeptical, but the combination of him and Cohen together was awesome down the stretch. So like, can he back that up with like an awesome group around him? And then like, suddenly they're like in the mix for like a one seed.

29:07But if you, you also told me they have like a losing record. I feel like they, they were a team that could go anywhere. They're a little like their coach who I really like. We had him on NFL daily. I love his personality, but he does feel like quotable McVay Shanahan, where he's got all the play calling, but he's much more entertaining. If the Jags ever have a bad season, I'm very curious how that's going to go with Cohen and the media and everything. He's a m**** like me. All right, let's take a break, and we'll be back to do the rest of the teams we are most curious to watch the start of the season.

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33:11Them signing Trayvon Diggs makes me think they thought they were going to have Terry on Arnold for the preseason and get him ready. And now he's going to be on the commissioner's exemplary. We hadn't hit that on the show yet. And it almost seems like they were somehow surprised about how this is all going down. Either way, I think a good signing. I haven't watched Hard Knocks, So I know that they talked about a death, but if they're surprised by Terry and Arnold being on the commission, somebody should be fired. Well, at some point when they, the first episode or maybe it was the first one talking about Arnold, not the third one overall, they, you know, Schneider expressed that he expected, well, we can get them on the field.

33:46We can get them into practice. We can get them, you know, part of the preseason. And then he, so maybe they were caught a little flat footed there, but I think Trayvon Diggs is a, is a great signing. I know he's got some weaknesses and he's got, you know, he's another year removed from an injury. like someone that's shown a high level of play at some point in their career take a chance on those guys totally one of the very few questions with the Seattle defense is if they want to kick Witherspoon inside at any point for like matchup reasons you've got Job on one side who's on the other is it Nemiah Pritchett who's a young player or is it someone else is it a veteran and I think that's why they're looking at all these low-cost quarterbacks so and they can coach them up better better than any team all Who is next on your list?

34:30Teams most curious to see week one. All right. I am going to go here with the Cincinnati Bengals. Yes. I was looking to see where they're playing. They're playing Tampa.

34:47I think actually both sides of the ball intrigued me, right? Because defensively, massively upgraded pass defense, is the run defense any better? Do the linebackers look like they're competent this year? Are they protected by Dexter Lawrence? Dexter Lawrence, who's amazing against the pass. Can he bounce back against the run? And then offensively, you know, I talked about this a little bit on my pod, but there just seems to be such a clear movement in Cincinnati to evolve this offense a bit this season. Burrow under center, incorporating Eric Hall, the tight ends and all that. So I kind of want to see if they try to.

35:25if week one, that's a direction that they go in. They're the team that I'm most afraid is going to bail in the middle of week two because the new offensive structure that they're trying to implant on this team, on Joe Burrow, essentially, isn't working. And then Joe just gets his way and goes back. Although we don't know that they've always been running the offense his way because he is demanding it or whether they just are trying to do what he does best. But some of the reporting out of camp does sound like the Bengals defense is winning a lot more than you would expect in Bengals training camp.

36:04And then it's Tampa. So that's team, assuming Vita Veya is there, you don't want to run on. It's the kind of team where you are probably better served by just spreading things out and throwing it all around. So, you know, it might be like week one. Let's throw out some of that stuff if we were talking about doing a power run game, but this is a kind of first month thing for me. I want to see what, because, you know, it's kind of there. The, we can't keep doing the same thing and expect different results team. And I feel like let's see if that's actually true. And it was only last season that their entire off season storyline was, we're going to change things up.

36:43So we're better in the first month of the season. Cause we're always the worst team in the NFL. The first month of the season, that's no longer the storyline, But it is interesting to think about what happens if they do get out to a slow start. I'll go Bears next. The chutzpah by Ben Johnson to want the number one scoring offense ever. When Khalif Raymond is your number three and either Luther Burden or Roma Dunze is your one. And DeAndre Swift is your top running back. You have no idea who your left tackle is. if you could get anywhere near first in the NFL this year, you have the title right now as best offense of mine.

37:25The onus after doing the NFC North on this offense is so high in my belief. And the same applies to the Lions and the Packers, to be clear. That I think they're going to have to be that. Greg, this defense is bad. There's something fun, though, about watching Dennis Allen have to spackle it all together. I don't know why I'm like a Dennis Allen as a defensive coordinator defender. The way he did it last year actually was quite entertaining to watch. They had zero pass rush. They still made it happen. But you're right. It looks way worse on paper even this year than last year. I'm very optimistic about the offense, though.

38:03So I don't want to I know Bears fans like I sound like a hater. To be clear, copy, paste Detroit Green Bay. I feel the same way about three of the four teams in the NFC North. Yeah, I also want to see Caleb, year three, right? Like all offseason, the talk has been how comfortable he looks this summer relative to last. He's no longer, you know, drinking from the fire hose. He's playing more calmly. And I'm, you know, this is, I'm interested in seeing if that's true. So that's a good choice. I listened to your quarterback's pod and I feel like similar in how I evaluated a season last year where it was way more erratic than people remember.

38:40remember and yet I am kind of Caleb curious there is a world where like there's a reason he was this level of quarterback prospect like compared to the last you know 10-15 years he's one of the best quarterback prospects and that it all does come together and that he like totally zooms and it is like a different player this year which which is a big reason why I have them this high all right you're next all right I gotta I gotta effed up one hold up your laptop we gotta cover our faces for this one. You know what I'm going to say? Not the Falcons, but their rival. Is Gino over? Does he have a chance for a bounce back season?

39:19All right. I aggregate us. You can't see our faces. I had them relatively high and the one, but not like as high as I really wanted to put it. And part of it is because I'm just afraid. Like I'm just afraid. I'm afraid too. I did it the whole bit. Yeah, that's right. I'm just afraid to get hurt or else they would be number three. I mean, I will be seated. This will be amazing. And he's got weapons. That's what I'm saying. The situation should be infinitely better. Let's see. To be clear, I'm not saying he's going to bounce back and be 2022 Geno Smith or whatever, but it can't be as bad as it was last year, right?

39:57If he has moments, all I need are some moments. I'm not expecting the playoffs. If there's a handful of moments of like a big comeback victory, like a 30 point game. The Jets fans are chanting his name. Like that, that's all I need. I'm eating that. Is that what Jets fans want? Do they want comeback majors? I don't know. That's why it's confusing to me. Like, I don't know how Jets fans feel about Geno Smith in general. Like they would have never expected him to be coming back. I'm buying the 80 Mitchell hype though. I've always believed. Yeah. Got a couple of tight ends. I, you mentioned the Lions and Packers, by the way, I don't think they're going to come up because to me, they're, they're like too much of the same.

40:35It's like, it's, It's all similar, but like a little stale. And is it a little bit worse? Like if Michael was there, I'd be more into the Packers early. But like prove me wrong on that. I guess I have to take the Patriots at somewhere, somewhere here. Because it's kind of underrated how different the Patriots are. Thinking about that, that week one game, you're talking about like a team that didn't have the horses to kind of make that Seahawks outside corner group vulnerable like last year. And now, you know, that juice, all I needed to see was that juice from A.J. Brown and like the depth here and the Drake May of it all.

41:13Well, I'll take the flip side and we can cut just because of the game. Like Seahawks offensive coordinator is the biggest change on this football team. Right. Like we talked about cornerback three. Sure. Brian Fleury never called plays before. This is going to be a test. I think this Patriots defense is going to be pretty damn good. and their play caller, Zach Kerr, I think has really grown in my estimation. So this is the game that's prime for Overreaction City because if Seattle's offense looks bad out the gate, there is going to be some panicking, especially because they let Walker walk, but otherwise they're running it back, right, on offense.

41:54They made a priority to bring back Rashid Shahid. There's players who have returned to health. so they're using the same offensive line which is crazy I can't remember the last time that's happened in Seattle and then there's Sam Darnold the 21st best player in the NFL according to the NFL 100 so I just think this is going to be the Seahawks offense in particular is going to be very intriguing on that Thursday night game Wednesday night it is strange to think how we're starting the season on a Wednesday I just love how how well they own being badasses on defense. There just hasn't been a team built like them since the last Seahawks team like them, like the confidence.

42:37And yet that week one game, like I'm kind of with you. I actually think there could be like a lot of points in that game because I have concerns about like the Patriots pass rush and their safety position slow and the linebackers. Like I could see that being like a weird sloppy game where it's like, wait, the Seahawks and the Patriots were in the thirties in week one. Those are not the teams they turned out to be. do you feel good about your bill like reek wolen is the guy you'd probably want on aj brown he's not on the team so how do they handle him with this new look patriots offense if aj brown again this is this is the overreaction game because if aj brown goes crazy in this game the eagles like just the noise around it either way right because if he's done if he's it's dud you will hear more from eagles fans than you might the entire season and look josh mcdain Daniels, he doesn't quite have the reputation of like an Andy Reid type, but he has shown up with, like he shows up in the first couple of weeks and knows that like you haven't been able to scout those games.

43:37And he just shows up with weird stuff. They were so vanilla in that Super Bowl, which was very disappointing. And I would expect the opposite. I would expect pace. I would expect it to be crazy. But more than anything, they're watchable because like four players in NFL history, Mina, have been first or second in MVP voting. As a second year player. I know you voted for, for Drake may as your MVP. So he, you know, he almost won it. And that list is like, is Dan Marino, Lamar Jackson, Patrick Mahomes, and then Kurt Warner, who was, it's a kind of a strange case. Cause he was 28 years old. I'm not saying may is necessarily at that level, but he's 23 years old.

44:15You know, it's possible. Possible. He could get there. It is possible. I want to see that. Um, okay. Let's fire through some surprising picks to, to end it up and go back and forth. I'll let's go Giants. Like the Giants are a team where they don't have to be good for me to like be very intrigued. Like I mentioned earlier, the Cowboys Giants week one, they always used to put that on Sunday night. I was just, you just got sick of it. Like another Eli Romo game. And yet this being Sunday night, I'm kind of into cause it's like, I want to see Abdul Carter and Arvel Reese on the same team. Dart has his flaws, but he's extremely watchable to me.

44:55I have no idea what this is going to look like. It could look bad, but I'll be fine as a slight Giants hater to watch it look bad. But I actually think they're going to be better than people think. I think there's a lot of top-level talent, Maui Noah, how that all works. In general, I'm just very intrigued by what this team is going to look like in September. Are we going to see Malik Neighbors? Yeah. Big, huge plot line. That's a good one. I'll go Rams defense. Is this the world-destroying unit that everyone conceives of at the moment? yeah we might be too contrarian to wait this long to talk about the rams but i think it makes sense i feel like we know who they are on some level i feel like i know who they are so at this point it's more just like is it are the expectations too high right um also you know i haven't heard anything about uh their left tackle larry jackson whether or not he's going to be suspended if he is that's something to monitor as well in los angeles because the offensive tackle position is not an area of great depth for them.

45:51And they are a team, they're kind of like the Bengals, but don't get the attention for it. I think they've started under 500 through four or five weeks of the season for much of the last five years. I'm trying to think, did that happen last year? They started normal last year. They were like three and two, but for that team, that actually was a slow start. But they've generally been like a slow starting team under McVay. And yeah, I think they're going to feel that extra kind of attention as like the superpower, like the evil empire. I'll go like the opposite then and put the Dolphins this high.

46:26I really do want to see Malik Willis as like a starting quarterback and Devon A. Chan and just the run game alone. I'm just into seeing week one, partly because I have a feeling that like by December, I'm going to be less interested in the Dolphins. Like the September is probably the time I'm going to be most interested in what Miami is doing. yeah I'm interested in how weird they can get like Bobby Slough here's your chance to get back in the conversation that's how I feel right and not because no one thinks they're going to be great but if he can do some funky stuff with Malik Willis and that very deficient receiving group they could become a little bit little borderline leak pass type team um all right I'll go flip back to the the heavies Denver's offense does Bo Nix take the step um that's gonna whether or not this team is a legit Super Bowl contender.

47:17I mean, they are, but whether or not they're a favorite, that is the whole thing, right? And Jalen Waddell, by all accounts, looks as advertised there. The effect is going to be, or has been touted as being real. So I'd like to see that. Yeah, the Broncos being lower on my list and Broncos fans think I have it out for them. It is more just about, they're the team with the most continuity in the league, literally. They are the team with everyone back. That'd be awesome. My biggest issue with them and the Chiefs and the Chargers, because I do consider the Chiefs real deal contenders to win that division, is that only one of those teams can win the division.

47:55It's just tough. I think that division is like, whatever you think of the division power ranks, that division is even better, I feel like, than given credit for. And it's going to be tough. At least two of those teams either aren't making the playoffs or are having to win three road games to make the Super Bowl, which is tough. I'll put the Raiders then as my next team. as part of that. It would be a lot different if we knew Mendoza was starting week one there. He's probably not. So he's, they're much lower than, than they would be otherwise. But I'm kind of into the, like the wholesale changes on defense and then Jente.

48:27And I'm a little Mike Washington curious, like in general, I look great. I'm kind of into like this new Raiders thing and just like biding my time. And the fact Mendoza is getting a little more first team reps lately. I still haven't totally ruled out him starting week one. I feel like that's possible. I mean, they got Miami, so talk about a nice starting spot for Mendoza if they were to go that route. Along those lines, I'll go Titans here because Cam Ward, you get the Jets defense week one. If it don't look better than it did the preseason, I'm not hitting the panic button. It's the preseason.

49:05Everything's new, but I do, you know, like, I really hope it looks better at the game. Yeah, the only reason I had them low was it was irrational but I just now I like Cam Ward so much that I just don't want to see him struggle and I'm like afraid for it, especially early in the season. And this is absolutely overreacting to the preseason and some of the practice reports, frankly. And like I never talked about it on the show because I hadn't gone back and watched it yet, but his preseason game was rough. It was just like basic stuff, holding it. It just wasn't great. The Bucs have a lot of players I like.

49:46The only reason they're even this low is because the defense is going to be different. I think the ceiling is high, but it is familiar. Like I've seen it for the most part before. I think they're going to be good. I had them on your pod winning the division, and I think it's a solid difference between them and the Saints at two. You had the Saints. Are you coming off your Saints to win the division prediction? Jordan Tyson. yeah I that's that was a big blow but Tyler Shuck by all accounts still looks great um the Bucs assuming Veya's out there I they're they're they're not super high not because I don't have my estimation just because I think I kind of know what we're getting with this team I would love to see the run game bounce back great opportunity again week one against that aforementioned Bengals defense because I I think that's going to be kind of the barometer for how the season goes.

50:39Like, can they run the football better than they did last year? To me, that's how you get the best out of Baker Mayfield. I love that. Yeah, I love that week one game too. I still believe in the Saints. I have a lot invested in the Saints. We're going to the Paris game. I don't know if we've even officially announced that. But we need the Saints and the Steelers to stay in contention here in the mix to make that game. The Saints are in Paris. Who are they playing? I mean, they have been pushing. I'm not really sure why. Is it just the New Orleans? I was going to say, yeah, Florida Elite. They've been pushing for that game for years, like the Saints specifically.

51:18And so they were always going to have it if it happened, and it's happened. And yeah, they're hosting the Steelers. So I'll see Aaron Rodgers playing overseas, assuming he's healthy for the second straight year. I saw him in Dublin last year. I actually would have the Steelers much higher. I have a lot of curiosity about this team, if not for Rodgers. Rodgers and Watson are like ruining their two teams for my like overall curiosity because it just caps the ceiling when there's a lot I'm really curious about otherwise for the Steelers specifically. Yeah, I... Just texting you about listening to a podcast when the Steelers are in the top 10 offense.

52:00I feel like I know... Well, okay, so I'm about to tape my AFC North pod. And I will say, flipping to the other side of the ball, there's some intriguing things happening with the Steelers defense. Patrick Graham, new defensive coordinator. I think there might be some changes there finally. They're a very talented unit as well. After doing my season preview, I regretted not putting the Steelers defense in my top 10 defensive pod. Yes. Patrick Graham has a sneaky upgrade potential on Mike Tomlin, which feels harsh, but he was there for a while. And I'm just saying as like a defensive coach, who's going to mix things up with extremely talented front seven.

52:42And I think the secondary is going to be good enough. I apologize to the teams that haven't made the list. Cause there aren't many. Most, it's Cardinals. It's the Panthers. I, you know, I like the Panthers. They're likable. They're like the Bryce young of teams. You know, they're Phillips and Devin Lloyd. Yeah. you got what you paid for. Holy mackerel. Both those guys in the preseason game looked awesome. I'm curious, like the Browns, the young core there. I'm very interested to see how that looks. And then the, the, where we're parking our car in the, in the same garage is, I think we both had the Falcons 32nd.

53:14At least I did. I did make like a full list just in case, you know, it's a crime against football that a team with Bajon Robinson feels this vanilla and boring going into a season. You, I, again, I'll say what I said about the Falcons this week. Michael Panix Jr., you will never have a better chance than this year coming off of the injury. The springboard is there. Tua looked awful.

53:41Did they go against the Broncos? Yeah, they were against the Broncos. Having the Falcons starters on the field, most of them, versus the Broncos starters was one of those, holy crap, the talent discrepant, the moment, just like, oh my God, this Broncos defense is terrifying. Um, and they say they don't game plan in the preseason. I'm sure they didn't specifically for Atlanta, but Vance Joseph was running those blitzes and Sean Payton was literally talking trash at halftime with his home, uh, crew. He genuinely hates the Falcons and their fans. And I think it was a little bit of saints Falcons, like coming out in the preseason.

54:19There were a few defensive coordinators that took me by surprise. Like Flores, you know, obviously, but you know, he was the one who, the blitzer hit war, hit Jackson Dart. But like Jesse Minter, excuse me. It's just like, hey, if we're going to like rep it with our starters in practice, in the joint practice, let's rep it with our backups. Preseason for thee, but not for me. I actually ended up like saying, I don't think the Eagles were ready for it. But yeah, the Falcons, listen, if Michael Panks Jr. comes back and is healthy and can make this interesting, then I will be reinvested in this team.

54:57And I know we've both been, I think in your words, did you call it Cardinals curious coming into the season? No, I saw that. I saw that floating around. Maybe it was Heifetz. Our friend Danny Heifetz might have mentioned that. They are going to be fun. They should have been higher on this list. This is why I talk about the flowers. I saw you talk about the skill position group. It's like, great. It's great. I'm excited for every single one of these games. I am too. Week one, best time of year. It is Mina time of year. It was the summer of Mina between Jeopardy and the Bake Off. That was this summer too, right?

55:30That feels so long ago. That feels so long ago. It really was. It was last summer. The spelling bee is what I was thinking of. It's always Mina Kimes time. Check her out on the Mina Kimes show featuring Lani. Thank you. We'll see you soon, Mina. Thanks for having me, bud. We will be back in this feed with our first fantasy-specific show leading up into fantasy drafts. We have Josh Norris, one of my absolute favorites on the show. And we're going to do a Josh Norris type of show. Nine fantasy truce. Everyone's getting wrong. Something like that. We'll see you on Friday.

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