Texans-Steelers Wild Card Recap: The End for Aaron Rodgers and Mike Tomlin in Pittsburgh?

13 Jan 2026 · 40 min · 21 chapters

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In short

Recap of the Texans’ 30-6 Wild Card win over the Steelers, focusing on Houston’s dominant defense, CJ Stroud’s costly turnovers, and the future of Steelers QB Aaron Rodgers and coach Mike Tomlin.

Guest backgrounds

Jordan Rodrigue is a Texans tracker who previously picked Houston to reach the Super Bowl. Greg (host) is the co-host/commentator throughout.

Key claims

Houston’s defense was “simple” but relentless under DeMeco Ryans and Matt Burke, never allowing the Steelers to reach 200 yards and limiting them to only a few first downs after early drives. The Texans blitzed minimally (zero blitzes mentioned) while generating pressure (45% pressure rate). Rodgers was pressured into quick throws and late-game mistakes, including a pick-six by Kalen Bullock.

Notable examples

Sheldon Rankins’ postseason touchdown on a defensive score; Christian Kirk’s 8 catches, 144 yards, and a TD; Stroud’s multiple fumbles (including two on one play) and a red-zone interception; Nico Collins’ concussion protocol exit. Discussion also speculates Tomlin’s job status and Rodgers’ potential offseason future.

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Texans' Dominating Defense

2:52 to 3:20

Recap of the Texans vs. Steelers playoff game focusing on defensive performance.

“And how fitting was it that a large man on this epic Houston Texans defense scored the most important touchdown on a night where the Texans defense absolutely dominated the Pittsburgh Steelers.”

Defensive Touchdowns and Performance

3:20 to 4:09

Discussion on the significance of the Texans' two defensive touchdowns.

“That touchdown came with just over 10 minutes left in the game.”

Strategies and Takeaways from the Game

4:09 to 5:01

Analyses of the Texans' defensive strategies and their effectiveness.

“I know you love this defense, just kind of big picture first takeaways after watching them on a night where, yeah, they did not allow the Steelers to score.”

Aaron Rodgers Under Pressure

5:01 to 6:16

Evaluation of Aaron Rodgers' performance and challenges faced during the game.

“But you could flip on the tape all season, and this is the Texans' defense.”

Texas Defense's Dominance

6:16 to 7:20

Insights on how the Texas defense outperformed the Steelers and key players.

“We talk all the time about how fun it is to notice some of the chess match that goes on through the course of this game.”

Family Ties and Personal Reflections

7:20 to 8:13

Host shares personal anecdotes related to the Texans and family support.

“Like, Daniil Hunter had Fautanu in all sorts of problems tonight, and Fautanu had a good season.”

CJ Stroud's Performance

8:13 to 9:16

Discussion on CJ Stroud's struggles and impact on the Texans' success.

“And to be fair, my son, for some reason, He doesn't really love me.”

Strategies to Combat Texans' Defense

9:16 to 10:52

Exploration of potential strategies other teams could use against the Texans defense.

“on a night where because of CJ's turnovers, almost any defense would have given up the lead and maybe give up the game.”

End of an Era for Aaron Rodgers?

10:52 to 12:39

Speculations about Aaron Rodgers' future and implications of his playoff performance.

“So you're you're behind the sticks before you even get your drive started.”

Final Thoughts and Future Outlook

12:39 to 14:00

Wrap-up discussion on the implications of the game for the Texans and Steelers.

“Let's actually listen to the pick six in the fourth quarter that finished off the score.”
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Aaron Rodgers and the Steelers Offense

14:00 to 14:40

Discussing the challenges faced by Aaron Rodgers and the Steelers offense.

“So something about it, you know, players never like to leave on a sour note.”

Mike Tomlin's Future with the Steelers

14:40 to 16:20

Analyzing Mike Tomlin's potential departure from the Steelers and its implications.

“We'll, we'll see how it goes for Aaron Rodgers, but you, I mean, it's tough to, it's tough to go out that way.”

Texans Defense Performance

16:20 to 19:00

A detailed breakdown of the Texans' defensive strengths and key players.

“But it almost makes it feel worse here because it just feels like it's Groundhog Day.”

CJ Stroud's Performance Analysis

25:26 to 28:00

Evaluating CJ Stroud's mixed performance in the recent game against the Steelers.

“They just don't have a weak spot and you thought maybe Reed gets hurt and like is the other safety going to get picked on enough?”

Texans' Balanced Offense Analysis

28:00 to 30:04

Explore how the Texans achieved offensive balance and effectiveness.

“I just mean the other 50 plays, which are a lot of plays.”

Critical Plays and Performances

30:04 to 32:35

Discuss key plays and performances, including the impact of turnovers.

“He just was so in his head, Greg, through this game.”

CJ Stroud's Development and Challenges

32:35 to 36:22

Examine CJ Stroud's performance, his growth, and areas for improvement.

“Six-yard touchdown pass from CJ Stroud to Christian Kirk.”

Nico Collins' Injury Concerns

36:40 to 40:02

Discuss the implications of Nico Collins' concussion on the Texans.

“And these playoff games are funny because Christian Kirk has not been a productive trade chip for what they expected.”

Mike Tomlin's Future and Post-Game Reflections

40:02 to 42:00

Reflect on Mike Tomlin's status and post-game comments following the loss.

“for this team I'll just say too Greg to your point um which is a great one that it's not for lack of technological tools to help the spotters see what they should be pointing out.”

Mike Tomlin's Future and Reflecting on the Steelers

42:00 to 43:34

Discussion on Mike Tomlin's status with the Steelers and reflections on the team's performance.

“We'll wrap up with Tomlin because we do have some quotes.”

The Texans' Impressive Playoff Journey

43:34 to 44:51

Analyzing the Texans' significant playoff win and their potential moving forward.

“And I think D 'Amico Ryans is showing like, you know, you can, you can be all about fundamentals and hitting and playing fast and old school.”
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2:17And Rogers, tapping his gut, takes the snap. Rogers, pocket collapsing. Rogers, it's going to go down and the ball is out. Who's got it? Rankins picks it up. He's on the move. 30, 25, 20, 15, 10, 5. Touchdown Sheldon Rankins. Rock and roll.

2:37Jourdan Rodrigue:The big guy touchdown. The ball came out and Sheldon, his second touchdown of the year. And what a huge one in the postseason. Woo-wee. Rock and roll. That's Mark Vandermeer on KILT. And how fitting was it that a large man on this epic Houston Texans defense scored the most important touchdown on a night where the Texans defense absolutely dominated the Pittsburgh Steelers. Texans move on to the divisional round in Foxborough. They win 30-6. That touchdown came with just over 10 minutes left in the game. It's only 10 to 6 at that point. And yet it was only one of two defensive touchdowns on the night.

3:31Just a signature performance by maybe the signature group in the entire NFL this season. Jordan Rodrigue is with me. She's been tracking this Texans team ever since she picked them to make the Super Bowl. And that pick is looking good today. You talked to my friend, and by friend I mean a guy I love watching play football, Jalen Petrie in the locker room. What was the quote that he gave you in the locker room after that Chargers game?

3:57Jourdan Rodrigue:God is the greatest, but the Texans' defense is probably second. I mean, we might have to, after tonight, we might have to move the Texans up a spot in the rankings. I love the rankings. I know you love defense. I know you love this defense, just kind of big picture first takeaways after watching them on a night where, yeah, they did not allow the Steelers to score. Obviously, they did not even allow the Steelers to get 200 yards. Men lie. Women lie. Numbers lie. The Texans defense never lies. It never lets you down, Greg. It just keeps on rolling. It comes at you. It is magical. It is vicious.

4:38Jourdan Rodrigue:It is physical. It is one of the smartest defenses, yet the simplest looks that you could possibly get, and they are relentless. And they tormented Aaron Rodgers for nearly the entirety of this game outside of the Steelers' scripted opening drive. This was absolutely one of the most dominant performances you're going to see. But you could flip on the tape all season, and this is the Texans' defense. This is the heart and soul and ethos of this defense led by D 'Amico Ryans and Matt Burke. What a masterpiece for their first road playoff win in franchise history. Yeah, you know the craziest stat of this game I got for you, which is I think the Steelers had five first downs in their first eight plays, which is outrageous to think about.

5:28They only got a handful the entire rest of the day. And after those first two drives, which were like 30, 45-yard drives, which stalled, they only had three points out of it. And I was thinking, that's trouble. And they basically didn't do anything the rest of the day. Big picture, like before we get into the nitty-gritty of everything that happens, I think what you said about how simple it is is really cool. Tori Aikman talked about it a lot tonight. We know it to be true. I love that in this world of all the disguised looks and different formations and matching personnels and everything like that, the Texans are maybe the simplest defense in the league, and that lets them play with an aggression that made me fearful for Aaron Rodgers' life.

6:12It looked like elder abuse at one point.

6:15Jourdan Rodrigue:I mean, it was crazy, Greg. We talk all the time about how fun it is to notice some of the chess match that goes on through the course of this game. at the beginning of this game, ESPN had the field mics turned up really loudly. And so the center, you can hear the center and the quarterback communicate. This was a real hit when Phil Rivers did this in his first game back for the Colts. And it was, you could hear Aaron Rodgers pointing out like Aziz El-Shair and some of the communication. Aziz El-Shair told the sideline reporters that, Lisa Salter specifically, that Aaron could hear what they were saying and was keying on some of their communications.

6:51Jourdan Rodrigue:And so they just moved to hand signals and you could hear the mics flip off after they said that because but it doesn't matter. That's the that's the entire point. Like Aaron Rodgers knew what this Texans defense was going to do the entire game, even when they switched to hand signals. And it did not matter because their dudes are better than your dudes and their dudes are better than your dudes at every single position on this defense. Yeah, and it's almost hard to pick out one. Like, Daniil Hunter had Fautanu in all sorts of problems tonight, and Fautanu had a good season. You know, Will Anderson on the other hat gets a couple sacks going up against, like, a backup tackle.

7:36That's an unfair matchup. But I think the players that stand out to me more for this team is our guy Petrie that you talk about. Petrie and Lasseter and the tone that they set early in this game. And I think what you said about like Rodgers can figure out what you're doing and so they go to the hand so he goes in it. And so maybe this is the worst matchup possible for a Steelers team where like that's their one advantage is he can figure things out. But there's nothing to figure out. Jordan's laughing because we have a comment in the chat that says I'm never as smug as when a team he dislikes loses in the playoffs.

8:12I apologize. I have loved the Texans all year. And to be fair, my son, for some reason, He doesn't really love me. So he chose the Texans as his favorite team. But I love him. And we had cupcakes tonight that said, go Texans. So they needed to come through or else it was going to be a bad night in the Rosenthal house tonight. So I am happy that they won. So it is.

8:32Jourdan Rodrigue:The rankings did change, Greg. It goes. The Texans defense is the greatest. And then there's Greg. Sure. And they did it, too, on a night where CJ Stroud fritzed out for a good portion of this game. And I think that is kind of like the last level of a dominant defense is that you can completely pick up. We can get into CJ's night a little more in depth in a second. I do want to just stay on the Texans defense. But I do think that is kind of the final form me and you have talked about to this Texan defense. There's been a couple fourth quarters earlier in the season where they gave up game winning drives.

9:08And I was thinking like if they want to be all time defense and that's kind of what they're going to have to do, I think, to make the Super Bowl, to win the Super Bowl. they have to do things like they did tonight, which is pick up the other side of the ball on a night where because of CJ's turnovers, almost any defense would have given up the lead and maybe give up the game.

9:26Jourdan Rodrigue:You know, I was thinking about, I tried to like reverse game theory this and think about like, what is the way that you could try to beat the Texans defense? If you're another team and you're the Patriots, for example, and you're looking down the line, how do you possibly beat these guys? And really one of the few ways to do it, if one of maybe be the only ways to do it is those intermediate and deep crossers that we saw maybe two of them have success because the Texans don't often carry their corners with a single receiver. They pass things off really well. Well, if you pass things off in the middle of the field, you're going to need some safety help and they're missing their, one of their best safeties to injury.

10:05Jourdan Rodrigue:And Jalen Reed left the game as well. He started this game, left the game to injury. And after, right after that you saw DK Metcalf have success on one of those those intermediate crossers well you also have to count on the fact that the quarterback can get to enough of a step in his drop back to get to that deep or intermediate crosser and at a certain point they showed it's just not possible so it's like there there is very little margin of error if any against this team and especially Jalen Petrie coming down the corners coming down as well and tackling this Pittsburgh team they've They've been yak merchants all year.

10:43Jourdan Rodrigue:They've been yards after the catch merchants. That's where they've had success running backs in the passing game as well. And they couldn't get anything after that first script. Like I said, the scripted drive that got them a couple of first downs because of how well this Texans team tackles because of repeated back to back tackles for loss run and pass into the flats that they can just smother and snuff out. So you're you're behind the sticks before you even get your drive started. And that is exactly why they're so fearsome and why they were such a great foil to everything that this Pittsburgh offense likes to do, inclusive to Aaron getting the ball out fast, which you know he loves to do.

11:22The crazy thing is he has played so much of this season to avoid taking big hits, letting go of the ball, throwing the ball near the line of scrimmage. I was wondering if he'd be a little more willing tonight to stand in there and take a hit. The very first, I believe, third and long in the game, I thought, nope, he got rid of it very quickly to avoid a hit. And it really felt like once there was pressure and you moved him off the spot that the play was essentially over. If you're watching us, we love that you're with us live on YouTube. Keep the comments coming. And if you're watching later on YouTube, you can see actually the sack that Rodgers took in the red zone late in the second quarter.

12:00At this point, the Steelers are trying to go in for a touchdown after another one of those CJ Stroud turnovers. And this act to me was was kind of typical of the night because, you know, Anderson caves in the pocket and Rogers wants to step up. But there is nowhere to step up because Hunter is pushing the pocket on the right side. There's interior pressure and Rogers doesn't even really like get hit. He just sort of trips on the feet that are in front of him. And look, if you're a big time Aaron Rodgers fan like this, if it was his last game, I kind of think it won't be his last game was a sad way to go out.

12:39Let's actually listen to the pick six in the fourth quarter that finished off the score. Short side left.

12:45Jourdan Rodrigue:Friar Muth will be the target here on fourth and five. Rodgers looks it over. Here's the snap. Rodgers in the pocket. Rodgers leaning it downfield and picked off at the 50. Bullock to his left 40, 35, 30. Bullock 20. Bullock upended at the sideline, maintains his balance and runs for Paydirk. Bullock took a hit, kept going and he scores two defensive touchdowns in the game.

13:16you don't want that to be like his last moment but if any if ever there was a game that was going to kind of make you question whether you were going to come back because it started to sound that Aaron Rodgers would be coming back and in my mind he talked to his teammates by all reports about that and just the way he's talked publicly sounded like his mind was maybe changing like this would be that game because they really got after him and hit him hard yeah by the way

13:41Jourdan Rodrigue:You catch Jalen Petrie running all the way down to lead block for Kalen Bullock. I believe the season started out with a Kalen Bullock pick six as well. So nice little bookend for the Texans here. Yeah. You know, Aaron Rodgers is one of the greatest we've ever seen play the position that anyone's ever seen play the position. So something about it, you know, players never like to leave on a sour note. Often it's unavoidable, such as injury. He's not injured. so I would not be surprised if he comes back I don't I don't see another pairing with this Pittsburgh Steelers offense and uh with or without Mike Tomlin I know we'll get into sort of the stakes in the future and all of that but I know they get along really well personally I just don't see him sticking with this type of offense the way that it was you just it was lacking and in some ways he was really needing to get the receivers on the same page they shuffled the receivers room a ton.

14:38Jourdan Rodrigue:He ended up loving throwing to the running backs the most. So it's just, I don't know. We'll, we'll see how it goes for Aaron Rodgers, but you, I mean, it's tough to, it's tough to go out that way. Exactly. To your point, Greg. So I just can't see it happening for that reason. Well, it's interesting. Well, we're talking about it now. Let's talk about it because yeah, on this night, he was getting upset with the receivers a couple of times, but he was upset with himself. Like he missed an open third down DK Metcalf. I thought his drop, which I think you alluded to in the second drive of the game, second or third drive of the game where he springs open and it just clangs off his hand against a defense like this when they do make a mistake.

15:14That was where you texted me, you know, Stingley got lost on that one. And he is prone to gambling a little bit. So occasionally you can beat him. And there's just so few chances like that, that you have to make it happen. So Rodgers, you know, misses a throw or two here. Tomlin has been reported to be considering going to television. To me, it is really hard to imagine Aaron Rodgers back if Mike Tomlin is not back. Like, why would the Steelers want to keep that going? Gut feeling. What the heck, Jordan? We have no information. Do you think Mike Tomlin is going to be back with the Pittsburgh Steelers?

15:53Because this is what their sixth straight playoff loss. It is now more than more than eight seasons since they won a playoff game. I was there at the AFC championship game, which started this losing streak for Tomlin in the playoffs. They're now the first team in NFL history to lose five straight playoff games by double digits for whatever that's worth. And it's just the same thing over and over. And they get that that win over the Ravens last week with a little bit of luck, certainly. But it almost makes it feel worse here because it just feels like it's Groundhog Day. and maybe Mike Tomlin, not the Steelers, but maybe Mike Tomlin has had enough.

16:32Jourdan Rodrigue:I think there's something to the maybe he's had enough point because it has taken since Ben Roethlisberger for Mike Tomlin to have a quarterback like Aaron Rodgers, even this version, a much older version of Aaron Rodgers, to even get into his building. And this was after an incredibly fruitless sweepstakes where the Steelers were in at one point and trying to convince Matthew Stafford, lurking sort of quietly in the background. They were trying to, if I'm remembering right, they were in on Justin Fields. No, who else were they in on? They wanted Justin Fields to come back by all reports, but they weren't willing to go as far financially as the Jets were.

17:13Jourdan Rodrigue:Correct. They really were thinking about their different avenues at quarterback, and I think it's good for them in a way that they landed with Rodgers because him and Tomlin do seem to have a very good working relationship, personal relationship as well. And this was as good as it was going to get for this version of the Steelers, right? And so that's where I think maybe it is time for a break, reset, recalibrate. Look at where the rest of the league is at right now. Now, I also believe that if he decided that he was going to step away, he'd have teams blowing up his phone immediately. Like this would now start to be a competitive situation between someone who wants to hire him and potentially a TV situation at one of these broadcasters.

17:56Jourdan Rodrigue:You know, there's a vacant CBS spot now because Matt Ryan's no longer in the chair. So I feel like this, which is a wild sense. I feel like every network would literally just like create a room. I'm not going to say who they might, you know, kick off, but some of those guys have been out a while or they'll just make a new spot. The money is just flowing. Have you seen the ratings lately? Give all the money to Mike Tomlin. I feel like if he wanted to, like he would do that. And if you wanted to take a year off, kind of like Sean Payton, who quote unquote retired from the Saints, if you remember back in the day.

18:25And then a year later, you know, he was back looking for a job. So that could be an option. I almost feel bad talking about such negative things on a beautiful night for the Texans moving to the final eight. And what a fascinating matchup it is against the Patriots. Drake May having just faced, you know, maybe his toughest defensive challenge of the season and now has to go up a level. and the two best tackling teams, I would argue, in the NFL. The Patriots are not a great defense, but they do not give up any extra yards. They are really sound tacklers and just two physical teams. I'm really excited for it, but I want to give you the floor here, Jordan.

19:02So you said, you know, you lead the way tonight. You know, you decide what we're going to do. Just anything that we haven't mentioned about the Texans defense so far that you want to get in there, whether it's a shout out to a player or something that they do schematically. before we get to the fact that this game was way closer than it needed to be, despite the Texans putting up 400 yards. Like this thing was on a knife's edge till about 10 minutes left of this game.

19:28Jourdan Rodrigue:Yes. And you're so correct. I'm glad we're going to get to that, that part of it too. And especially the offense, which still has its issues. But this interior of this defensive line, as good as the exterior is, the interior often gets slept on, in my opinion, Tommy Togiai and Sheldon Rankins. Obviously, both of those guys have a touchdown in back-to-back weeks, which I love that for them. Big man, thick six, you know, happening. And this is a defensive front that plays in such an egoless way. They, you know, D 'Amico Ryans, I think there was some fun being poked at him because of his acronym SWARM and what is SWARM and what does that mean or whatever.

20:08Jourdan Rodrigue:Probably not on this show, but, you know, like maybe. I mean, don't be passive aggressive. I like aggressive aggressive. Just say, you were having some fun with the swarm. We were having it in a fun way. I just, you know. I truly, actually, I actually could not remember if it was you that was poking fun at it. But so I guess I should have just assumed. But the greatest thing about this is how, as one, they rush. They rush in layers. They see each other's space that they create. They are very egoless about the numbers. They're very egoless about opportunity. You don't see a lot of freestyling out there.

20:44Jourdan Rodrigue:You see a lot of discipline. They play so professionally with each other. That is so incredible to me. And you see it in these little moments like Nick Shook and I did a show a couple of weeks, several weeks ago, or it was another Texans game. And we were talking about how when Daniil Hunter and Will Anderson were tackling the quarterback, sometimes the physics of their body were twisting them around where they could have gotten flagged for a roughness penalty or that, or even a hip drop because of the way the physics were carrying their bodies. And if they didn't let go of the quarterback's legs at that moment, they probably would have gotten flagged.

21:18Jourdan Rodrigue:And so they knew they had the quarterback contained. So they let go. This is similar, you know, trying not to step on Aaron Rogers, uh, when all that mess is happening is being tackled by his own offensive lineman. Right. And he's being sacked by his own offensive lineman, um, staying, staying, uh, underneath sort of that pile to make sure that you have a hand on the quarterback when he's on the ground, like Will Anderson did. It just is like really professional football in every single phase. I love their linebackers. I don't think I just think they're just clean everywhere. They're so good, Greg.

21:51Jourdan Rodrigue:It's just incredible to watch.

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26:08They only had six more the rest of the day. The Steelers had a 21 % success rate, which is just absolutely brutal, throwing the ball. And then here's my favorite just stat I'm pulling. This is from NextGen. They had a 45 % pressure rate, which is sky high. You know how many times they blitzed tonight?

26:28Jourdan Rodrigue:Zero. Three times. Oh, wow. That's even more than I thought. But three is nuts. That's crazy. They just don't have to send any extra rushers. And yeah, Anderson and Hunter are going to be keeping Mike Braybill up at night and Will Campbell and Morgan Moses, because I think that's the biggest weakness of the Patriots, potentially, and they can get after Drake. Maybe they had 15 pressures combined tonight. Let's talk about the offense. And I guess we got to start kind of with the bat. What was happening with CJ here? To give you just like a quick overview. Yeah. I need to double check this, but he ended up with five turnovers on, I mean, five fumbles on the night, right?

27:14Because he, reminiscent to that crazy Jalen Hurts, Herbert game in play that happened in the game I went to on Monday Night Football where there was multiple turnovers on one play. Twice tonight, C.J. Stroud had two fumbles on one play. So he had four total fumbles, I mean, on two combined plays. And in each one of those plays, he wasn't paying attention and fumbled the shotgun snap and then eventually fumbled because he held the ball too long on that plate and lost both of those fumbles and then had another one later on and then also had a red zone interception. It was really a crazy combination of him getting so in his head on a night when if you just took those plays away, it was a great offensive performance by the Texans and a good one by CJ Stroud.

28:11If you took those plays away.

28:13Jourdan Rodrigue:Yes. Big caveat there. That's a big if. I just mean the other 50 plays, which are a lot of plays. Totally. I thought it was one of the more balanced games that I've seen from this Texans offense in huge part because the run game was great. Now, it's been a work in progress all season, and they've chipped away at it and really want to give credit to Nick Kaley, the offensive coordinator here, who has been through his fair share of battles here on the season, but didn't run away from it. Kept going even when the turnovers would happen. Kept trying to find ways to balance and settle this offense down.

28:48Jourdan Rodrigue:Woody Marks goes over 100 yards and has a touchdown at the end of the game. And it's like they just kept chipping at it. They were at or over nearly a 50 % success rate between Woody Marks, who had the lion's share of carries, left the game at one point, came back in. And Nick Chubb as well, who had three consecutive really solid runs in the first half that started getting this run game going, settled the offensive line down. When they got into the third quarter, they really started moving the offensive line. They really started controlling the line of scrimmage more so, especially half over half.

29:22Jourdan Rodrigue:This third quarter was when they really started, you know, settling and digging into that trench work. And I thought it was it was great because you had a combination of Nick Chubb with a lot of that middle zone or gap running. And then you would get Woody Marks, who can also do that, but then would hit you with like some explosive speed around the edge, too. And the Steelers were just not quite sure whether they were going to be stretched physically or stretched wide. And that was just really special to me because that's the kind of balance within the run game that you also need to have in order to really challenge these defenses in the postseason.

29:56Jourdan Rodrigue:And this was the best, to me, the best game that Nick Kaley has called because there was chaos, Greg. You mentioned it. CJ Stroud, I mean, dude, take the sack. Take the four-yard scramble. Don't try to force the play. He just was so in his head, Greg, through this game. And there was clear issues with the center, Jake Andrews, too, and issues in the shotgun. But they just kept steady and they got a monster performance out of their defense. And that's like, I hope that's not the formula because we know CJ Stroud can be better than this. And maybe I remembered it incorrectly that he was credited for two fumbles on two separate plays because he also, of course, had the fumble on what I thought was Kaylee's.

30:40I mean, it's hard to say it's his worst call of the night, but they didn't execute it perfectly. The flea flicker.

30:46Jourdan Rodrigue:What is happening with these flea flickers? What's happening to the play that I love? They're playing on bad grass. This is the worst field maybe in the league. Green Bay is certainly up there. And Woody Marks just like slightly slipped, I think, on the flea flicker. Very similar to that Carolina game in week 18. And he still got the ball back to CJ Stroud, but the timing was just messed up just a little bit. and then C.J. Stroud gets his arm hit. Now, it appeared there was a wide open receiver down the field. So if they had time to do it, he would have gotten it deep. But instead, Jack Sawyer comes up with the first of a few really big plays in this game.

31:25But I'm glad you brought up, you know, the running game and how great it was. And look, they they ended up putting up what? 164 yards on the ground. And the crazy thing is tonight, they didn't have a ton of drives. There's only nine drives in this game. If it wasn't for the turnovers, they actually played pretty good complementary football. And they do deserve some credit, I think, because you see the final score and you're like, this is a joke. In the fourth quarter, they go on a pretty long field goal drive to actually get it up to 10-6 at the very least. And then they do capitalize with a touchdown drive after the Texans get their fun and get the turnover on Rodgers.

32:04And it was just a waterfall. So like there's no rule that says they were going to have to go and score a touchdown there in the fourth quarter to completely put the game away on offense. And they did it. And so they deserve credit for that. And they also deserve credit for that second quarter drive, which was 14 plays, 92 yards. They start with the ball on the eight yard line and they go mostly running, but some nice throws by CJ Stroud. Let's actually listen to how that drive was capped off the first touchdown of the game. And three at the six. Stroud takes the snap. Takes the toss behind him.

32:39Throws right side. Christian Kirk to the end zone. Touchdown, Houston. Six-yard touchdown pass from CJ Stroud to Christian Kirk. And the Texans go in front. Stroud did have some nice throws. Like his first down of the game was a dime down the field to Christian Kirk. There also was a 46-yard reception late in the third quarter to Christian Kirk, which came on third and 15. This is with about 40 seconds left in the fourth quarter, right after C.J. Stroud had had his fifth fumble on a ball that he was very lucky to get back. He wasn't looking before the ball was snapped. And it's third and 15. And you're thinking, they really might blow this game.

33:28It's 7-6. and he gets protected really well. And I think the offensive line actually had a sneaky good game in front of CJ Stroud, even pass protecting. And he hits a dime down the field to Christian Kirk. So there were moments. So I do want to pat him on the back, but there's something weird about Stroud. When he gets in his head, like he kind of stays there sometimes.

33:47Jourdan Rodrigue:He's kind of like a, he wears his heart on his sleeve as a quarterback where you can tell exactly when he's overthinking things. And I think it's a product of being young. I think it's a product of all the hits he took last year and all the chaos at offensive line. I think some of it's a product of changing systems and still trying to figure out what his rhythm is. Nico Collins was in and out of the game. Hope he's OK. He left on a cart to the locker room in the concussion protocol. But and so trying to figure out, you know, different guys, different timing and those types of things. Christian Kirk really stepped up for CJ Stroud, gave him wide open targets.

34:22Jourdan Rodrigue:There were a couple of times where I worried about some of the other receivers because CJ was throwing them into some danger, too. And this is not the thing is we know what his potential is and we know what his ability is. And you saw it in a lot of the pass plays and a lot of the decision making this game. I love that Christian Kirk touchdown because it was a fake toss to one direction and then he throws a touchdown to the other direction. calm and steady as could be a lot of misdirection cadence timing has to happen on that type of play selling the fake flowing in one direction hitting the other side like you see it right it's there and then you know he throws a high sort of hospitaly ball to to Jaden Higgins and and Jaden Higgins somehow hangs on and he overthrows a couple too and and you know it just is one of those things where they're gonna need more consistency out of CJ Stroud they don't need him to be a superhero anymore at this point or ever because he has this defense that's going to be the hero of this team and he's got a great even keel special teams unit just needs some consistency and that's why I love that the run game was there if this run game wasn't there Greg they don't recover like this yeah I totally agree and I was watching this game with with you know of my family and, and Emeka, my wife is just like, what, why is every pass so hard?

35:47And I was like, it's a great point. Cause the first half of this game, every completion was contested. And for the most part, CJ was on point and some were broken up and some weren't. And so I don't know if the receivers just weren't open or he's just trying to fit it into tight windows, but they were like very difficult throws. I actually think the Steelers defense overall, you know, played a pretty good game. Their offense just sold them out. Maybe not good. You give up 400 yards to the Texans in nine drives. That's not good. And you also allow Christian Kirk, who's been quiet all year, to be the guy who makes me say that it is time for delivery and results presented by Uber Eats.

36:24When football makes you hungry, order Uber Eats. And yes, Christian Kirk goes eight catches, 144 yards and a touchdown. A couple times gets them out of bad field position. A couple times sets up a big score. And these playoff games are funny because Christian Kirk has not been a productive trade chip for what they expected. For a good chunk of this season, he's hurt. And then the rookies end up kind of passing him in terms of importance on the team. He plays 13 games and he somehow only ends up with 239 yards. Like he almost matched that tonight. But I'll tell you what, like that front office is so happy they made that move.

37:10Now it's like the Brandon Cooks move in Buffalo. Like it's all worth it if they come up in a big spot like this. And he's obviously a really talented, experienced receiver. And he gave them something tonight that they absolutely needed. And if Nico Collins is out next week, he went into the concussion protocol tonight, then Christian Kirk's importance is even going to be bigger next week.

37:31Jourdan Rodrigue:A little birdie told me that Christian Kirk was set to be a huge factor tonight, in part because of the way with a healthy Nico Collins, in part because of the way that they thought the Steelers were going to defend them, which I think is a fair, fair assumption to make. unfortunately nico collins who had a couple of great catches himself including a really tough one over the middle for a big conversion um you know that's he just took so much contact uh to to his head and hopefully he's going to be okay and we'll hear more about that obviously in the in the coming um in the coming days yeah and they are on a short week which i i think is unfair for these teams that that have to do it the monday night game is sort of inherently unfair teams have won coming out of it.

38:17Themes of loss coming out of it. It hasn't been decisive or anything. The Rams won the Super Bowl coming out of it, as you know. But yeah, shout out to Christian Kirk getting it done. And it's a free agency year for him. So it reminds everyone how good he can be. That was delivering results presented by Uber Eats. When football makes you hungry, get game day deals on Uber Eats, the official on-demand delivery partner of the NFL. Order now. I am frustrated by the Nico concussion. because I just thought it seemed kind of obvious on TV when he took a hit on that very, I think it was the first target he had of the game, that he was shaken up, and he just goes over to the sideline, and I didn't see them examine him for a potential concussion, but he got up very slowly after that first play, and I do feel like it's becoming a little bit of a trend lately that they are not taking care of the players as much as they were, let's say, five to ten years ago.

39:14There's just not as much attention on it. And you know, you can have a rudimentary understanding of science and concussions and everything that when you suffer maybe a more minor one, uh, both before suffering a bigger one, like in the same game, it, it makes it worse. And he did, you know, as Troy Aikman pointed out, like he was walking the wrong way after the second one. You just, you just hate to see that. And you just hope that like they did everything that they were supposed to do before that because I was a little surprised how quickly he returned to that game if you remember I think he sat out basically like five or six plays on the first drive and then came in for the final third down I was like wow that that was quick for him to come back in there so you just you just hope he's going to be okay and he's really important that almost goes without saying

40:02Jourdan Rodrigue:for this team I'll just say too Greg to your point um which is a great one that it's not for lack of technological tools to help the spotters see what they should be pointing out. They have every tool available to them up in the booth to literally spot, to spot these things and to, to, to raise the alarm. So that's, that's what I'll say on that. Yeah. And, uh, it's crazy. I'm checking the stats while we're talking in terms of Kirk. Cause I was like 239 yards. That's even less than I expected. He was not wide receiver too, for this team, as everyone expected, Jordan. He was, that was Jaden Higgins.

40:38in the end. He was not wide receiver three for this team in the end. That was Xavier Hutchinson. And if we're just going off yards, he was not wide receiver four for this team. That was Jalen Noel. He was wide receiver five on the season and he steps up on a big night and yeah, helps CJ Stroud out. It's why, you know, it's a team game. And we talk about quarterback wins and everything. The rest of his team picked up CJ Stroud and, you know, he's a much more accurate quarterback than he was tonight. I think he'll play better next week. But you want to know who my comp is for him just in a little way right now in terms of the streakiness that he has within games?

41:22The emotions on his sleeve you mentioned really hammered at home for me.

41:25Jourdan Rodrigue:You mean CJ Stroud? CJ Stroud's comp that popped in my mind right now in terms of how he's playing sometimes. Maybe not style. One of my least favorite quarterbacks, as you know, in terms of frustrating to watch, Baker Mayfield. Because it's just like, he doesn't play as the worst. Never miss an opportunity, Greg. Never miss an opportunity. It's like, it's just that he, because of the emotions, you can almost see it, like you said. When he's pushing too hard. Drive to drive, like quarter to quarter. He can just get so hot. And they obviously are different in different sorts of ways. I think, you know, CJ can be a great pocket quarterback at his best.

42:02We'll wrap up with Tomlin because we do have some quotes. Shout out to Chris Bibona, who's been doing great on these live shows all season long. We have one more next or this Saturday night after the divisional round. Mike Tomlin was asked about the status of him with the team. He said, it's not time for talk. We agreed we'll meet tomorrow and go from there. When you're in this single elimination tournament, there's not a whole lot to talk about. You win or go home. And then when asked for a message to the fans, he just said, when you don't get it done, words are cheap. there's too much talking in our business fair just another manic monday i uh i want you to promise we can you know count on you singing at the end of all these shows uh what a night for the houston texans 30 to 6 you know they've won a game

42:52Jourdan Rodrigue:smiling i shouldn't be smiling this big no i think that i love this team so much The Steelers fans are going to take offense, but for everyone who's like, I want, you know, the Texans are kind of what you would want the Steelers to be, right? Like this, they are the closest thing we have right now to the steel curtain. If you want some 1970s, maybe even 1980s ass looking football, like this is it right here. It's crazy. I love it. It's true. It's true. And I, you know, if this is what, Mike Tomlin steps away after it. It is there's, you know, we've had some crazy poetry in football. It's John Harbaugh who, uh, parts ways quote unquote with the, with the Ravens after a game that is going to most be remembered for some special teams errors, including a missed field goal, um, as the special teams expert, who is one of the few special teams coaches ever hired to be a head coach and then Mike Tomlin the defensive mastermind getting beat in his own house by the best one of the best defenses we've seen in modern football that's playing like a total throwback run and hit somebody defense it is there's there's poetry in there I think and it's true the Steelers are if not the most expensive defense in the league they're like second or third and when this losing streak in the playoffs started a lot of the criticism with Tomlin and this happens in the regular season two from his fans are like, well, they're just so static and they're just the same defense year after year.

44:29And I think D 'Amico Ryans is showing like, you know, you can, you can be all about fundamentals and hitting and playing fast and old school. Um, but you just got to have the right players and the right coaching and the right system. And they, they are the new, so we will, we will be tracking obviously everything, uh, with Mike Tomlin and the Steelers throughout the week. we'll be talking about this Texans and Patriots game. We might get Seth Payne on the show, I think, for the preview show. Yes, who's a big Houston Texans follower, so I can't wait for that. Let's hit the music here. Chris Babona.

45:06I told Walker, my son, earlier today, not many teams make the playoffs every year. Like, how many teams have made the playoffs three straight years like the Texans? You can't take this for granted. How many teams have won a playoff game now three straight years? You can't take them for granted. We find out next week, Drake May versus CJ Stroud. Can the Texans win too?

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