In short
Greg Rosenthal compiles his “greatest football books of all time,” organized by categories (best overall, history, season/team access, training camp, coaching/strategy, biographies, X’s-and-O’s, fiction, and oddities), urging listeners to read at least one.
Guests
No guests appear in the episode. It’s a solo monologue by Greg Rosenthal. He mentions other writers/people (e.g., Chris Wesseling, Eric Roberts, Chuck Klosterman, Matt Casey) but they do not participate.
Key claims
Zimmerman’s The New Thinking Man’s Guide to Pro Football is the “Bible” for learning positions with humor and reporting; America’s Game is the definitive NFL history; Friday Night Lights is a darker, deeper alternative to the TV show; inside-team access books are rare and valuable; few great football books are being published now.
Notable examples
The New Thinking Man’s Guide (Paul Zimmerman), America’s Game (Michael McCambridge), Friday Night Lights (Buzz Bissinger), Bringing the Heat (Mark Bowden), Collision Low Crossers (Nicholas Dawidoff), Three Bricks Shy of a Load (Roy Blunt Jr.), Paper Lion (George Plimpton), Finding the Winning Edge (Bill Walsh), When Pride Still Mattered (David Maraniss), Education of a Coach (David Halberstam), The Real All-Americans (Sally Jenkins), Blood, Sweat, and Chalk (Tim Layden), The Art of Smart Football (Chris Brown), A Fan’s Notes (Frederick Exley), North Dallas 40 (Peter Gent), Billy Lynn’s Long Halftime Walk (Ben Fountain), All Madden (John Madden).
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Chapters
Tap a time to open that second in VOThe New Thinking Man's Guide to Pro Football
1:09 to 2:30
Discussion of Paul Zimmerman's influential football book.
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The New Thinking Man's Guide to Pro Football
2:38 to 3:00
Discussion of Paul Zimmerman's influential football book.
“You ever notice how everything keeps going up?”
The New Thinking Man's Guide to Pro Football
4:38 to 6:15
Discussion of Paul Zimmerman's influential football book.
“It's called The New Thinking Man's Guide to Pro Football by Paul Zimmerman, a.k.a.”
America's Game: A History of the NFL
7:00 to 7:55
Exploration of Michael McCambridge's definitive NFL history book.
“The next section is going to be if you want a history of the league.”
Friday Night Lights by Buzz Bissinger
8:05 to 9:37
Analysis of the impact and depth of the book compared to its TV adaptation.
“It's crazy to me that the show has overshadowed the book for me, too.”
Season Narratives in Football Literature
9:38 to 11:04
Overview of notable season narratives in football literature.
“And I've lined up a bunch of stacks around my desk of these books.”
Three Bricks Shy of a Load: The 1970s Steelers
11:04 to 13:58
Insight into Roy Blount Jr.'s classic about the Steelers and their era.
“But that's bringing the heat about the 92 Eagles.”
Exploring Classic Football Books
14:02 to 17:02
Discover some of the best football books, including quirky anecdotes and insights into legendary figures.
“I realized some of my favorite books, I don't know where the copies are.”
Training Camp Adventures in Literature
17:03 to 19:28
Learn about iconic training camp stories and the experiences of football players and writers.
“And again, I'm doing these roughly in the order of how great they are.”
Investment-Worthy Football Literature
19:29 to 22:34
Uncover books that are valuable investments and offer unique insights into coaching and biographies.
“Nate Jackson was one of the characters as a bottom of the roster type of guy, and he ended up writing a book called Slow Getting Up, which was a fun from the perspective of a player book if you were looking into that.”
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Historical Perspectives in Football Books
22:35 to 25:14
Examine significant historical football stories that shaped the sport and its players.
“Chris Wesseling really loved the history books.”
X's and O's and Fictional Football Narratives
25:15 to 28:01
Delve into books that cover the intricacies of football strategy and compelling fiction related to the sport.
“And I'm going to go Blood, Sweat, and Chalk by Tim Layden.”
Exploring Football's Oddities and Classics
28:01 to 29:56
Learn about unique and significant football books, including insights into their themes and authors.
“It's maybe the best book about what it's like in terms of a fictional representation of being a completely addicted, obsessed fan.”
Books with Badass Covers and Influential Stories
29:58 to 32:29
Discover books with striking covers and significant narratives about football's history and culture.
“include just because their covers are badass and the writing is very often badass.”
The Impact of Football Literature
32:30 to 34:46
Understand the relevance of football literature in contemporary culture and personal reading habits.
“mentioned, and there are a lot of very good football books I didn't get to that I have read, of course, hit me up.”
Podcast Closing and Transition
37:46 to 38:52
Wrap up the episode with final thoughts and a preview of upcoming content.
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Transcript
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3:13Welcome to NFL Daily, where it's always reading season. I'm Greg Rosenthal, coming to you live from my garage in the middle of the summer. And yes, when I think of summer, I think it's go time for all the books that I want to read. And I get a lot of messages on Blue Sky or X whenever we ask for questions. One of the questions is, what are some of the best football books ever? And I thought, let's finally collect them all in one definitive podcast that I am calling the greatest football books of all time. When I got my first job in football at Roto World, I felt like I needed to catch up in terms of learning the sport.
3:59And I went on a tear trying to read every single football book that I could for about five to ten years straight. And so I feel like I'm in a good position. It's not exhaustive. It's only books that I've read, but I don't think there's that many great ones out there. And I got a little help from our dear friend, Chris Wesseling, who put together his greatest football books of all time document. And I'm going to go in order, roughly. We're going to go from the best books and just the ones that I think you would absolutely love if you are into football books. So let's get going. And I wanted to start with what I consider the Bibles, essentially the greatest football books, if you're going to pick one of all time.
4:46It's called The New Thinking Man's Guide to Pro Football by Paul Zimmerman, a.k.a. Dr. Z, who was the longtime Sports Illustrated writer. Now, if you're watching this on YouTube, it's a fun one today because I got all these old books that I'm going to be holding up. If you're listening, that works just as well. In the case of this book, I actually have like three different copies of it because I used to carry around this little paperback to every Super Bowl just to have as inspiration of what great football writing could be. And to me, Zimmerman combined the best X's and O's writing with humor and actually great writing.
5:30So you learn a lot, but he knows how to write. And he's also an excellent reporter. Five-tool writer. I don't know if there's ever been anyone as good as him. I've shown a few different copies. There was an original in the 70s called The Thinking Man's Guide to Football. And then he had an updated version in 1987 called The New Thinking Man's Guide. And so it's a little more modern. But basically, it's him going through position by position and talking to all the players. but the way he just mixes in reporting and just quick quotes about what it really means to play these positions and everything that goes into it was the book that helped me understand how little I really understood about football, but it makes you love the game even more.
6:22The best compliment I could give this book is that I have thought so many times, if someone came out with this book about today's generation of players that I know so well, I would just lose it. There aren't books like this right now. Maybe I'm the man that should be writing this book, but I don't think I could do it. So if you're out there listening and you love football reporting, write this book for me. I want this book, and yet when you read it now, it is just as relevant and modern, and you learn so much about the game. So again, The New Thinking Man's Guide to Football by Paul Zimmerman.
6:59Okay, I'm dividing this into different sections. The next section is going to be if you want a history of the league. If you were going to read one book and teach a college course in football, and you just wanted one book as your document, document. I would go America's Game by Michael McCambridge. It is, to me, the definitive history of professional football. He also wrote a good book on Chuck Knoll. He wrote one with Brian Billick called More Than a Game, a Lamar Hunt book. But this is about how the NFL came to be, what the NFL was like before the Super Bowl even happened, and then well into the Super Bowl era.
7:40and it really helps you get the characters and how pro football ended up taking over baseball and all the other sports and it's really well written. It's exhaustive. I think if you want everything in one place, this is it. My next category would be one with a question mark and the question mark comes at the end of the sentence. Is this the best sports book ever? I'm holding up Friday Night Lights by Buzz Bissinger. It's crazy to me that the show has overshadowed the book for me, too. I mean, the show is one of my all time favorite shows, but the show, as much as it gets how central football is in the life of Texas teenagers and adults, the book is such a banger and gets in depth in a way that I think the show just can't in certain ways.
8:33And it's not like it wasn't popular. This book sold over 2 million copies, which is incredible because it's not necessarily an easy book. Some of the characters from the TV show are very loosely based on the characters here, but not really. It explains in a way that Chuck Klosterman, who joined the show a few weeks back, did really well, that for these kids, this is in many ways the peak of their lives. And I think it explains in a way how football just has a chokehold on us as Americans, and especially in Texas, its next level, but how we kind of like it. I mean, it's not painting it with a negative brush.
9:17It is darker, certainly, at points than the TV show, but it's just incredible. And I go back to it. Again, kind of like Paul Zimmerman, it combines just insanely good reporting with great writing, and the characters are next level. So shout out to Buzz Bissinger, one of the best that ever did it. All right, my next category. And I've lined up a bunch of stacks around my desk of these books. And so hopefully I can keep it all straight. The next category is probably my favorite genre of football books. And so I'm going to go through my favorite season in the life football books. And I tried to pick ones too that weren't as obvious.
9:57And I will start with Bringing the Heat by Mark Bowden. It is about the 1992 Philadelphia Eagles. To me, it was so eye-opening in so many ways. He got such great access. The characters are crazy. Reggie White, Randall Cunningham, Buddy Ryan, Reggie Brown, they are just larger than life, and Bowden brings them to life. But it also got real. There's a lot of stuff about the players and their wives and their girlfriends, and sometimes how the girlfriends and the wives might show up to the same game by mistake and be in the player's section. That leads to issues. So the access that he had is kind of crazy.
10:37It's 500 pages, and yet it reads almost like a thriller. I absolutely love this book as an inside the team type of book. You would never get this type of access now. He also wrote a book, Mark Bowden, about the greatest game of all time, as it's called, the greatest football game ever played, Giants-Colts, that I would also recommend. He also wrote the book Black Hawk Down, which became a badass movie. So a versatile writer, Mark Bowden. But that's bringing the heat about the 92 Eagles. Collision Low Crossers is one of the three books that our producer, Eric Roberts, has tried to read in the last decade.
11:15But he said he didn't finish it. It was only three chapters deep. I think this book, which is about the 2011 Jets, suffered a little bit because Hard Knocks came out at the same time and also suffered. let's be honest, with a terrible title. Collision Low Crossers, it needed to be better. And yet, I've wanted books written about this era of football in depth where you really get what it's like to be inside a team. And Nicholas Dawidoff, who is a Wall Street Journal writer, really nailed it. And I think it's aged extremely well. So many good characters in this book. It's Daryl Rivas. It's Rex Ryan, of course.
11:56There's Mike Tannenbaum. There's a lot going on in this book, and I think if you want to understand what the modern NFL is like, it's a great one. Another one that really stands out to me as a book that would never get written out is called Three Bricks Shy of a Load by Roy Blunt Jr. This is an all-time classic. If you look at lists of the greatest football sports books of all time, it's very often on it. Blount is just a crazy talented writer and weird and awesome. It is a very druggie book. Blount seems like he's, you know, high half the time with the team. The team is high quite a bit. It's the 1970s Steeler.
12:36And whenever I hear how players today, they just, they don't have as much respect as, you know, back in the day when, you know, it was gentlemen and this and that. And I'm thinking, are you high? Players talked way more trash back then. They were bigger characters because we knew what big characters they were back then because books like this were written. It is with the 1973 Steelers. It's very digressive and goes in different paths that are fascinating sometimes. It's about the ownership there. It's about Chuck Knoll. It's about Terry Bradshaw and how much disrespect he got at the time, what a character he was.
13:20and it's right before they go on their run as a dynasty. So it's a moment in time, but it honestly felt like you are very much in the locker room. He hangs out with the team the entire year. It almost feels like you're smoking weed with them. There's some serious issues that come up in this book, whether it's drug addiction and depression and a little bit of crime. There's a lot going on and there's one of the greatest teams of all time and like countless Hall of Famers who are profiled in depth in a really fun, entertaining way. Not necessarily like the easiest book to read either, but it really rewards you.
13:58And so that's Three Bricks Shy of a Load by Roy Blunt Jr. As I went through this exercise, I realized some of my favorite books, I don't know where the copies are. So there's a book called The Last Season of Weeb Eubank by Paul Zimmerman, Dr. Z, who I've mentioned before. You're gonna have to find it in a library because I looked for it online. You got to pay like 150, 200 bucks for it right now because it's out of print. It's hard to find. I might have given my copy to Matt Casey, who's a big Jets fan. Matt, if you have my copy, give it back. It's worth a lot now. I feel annoyed that I gave it away.
14:30But since I don't have it in person, I'm just going to hold up one of its biggest characters, which is Joe Namath. This is a book called I Can't Wait Until Tomorrow Because I Get Better Looking Every Day by Joe Willie Namath. That's literally the title of the book. and the book cover is just Joe Namath's face, which is absolutely hilarious, as is the title of the book. The book itself is fine. It's funny. It's with Dick Schaap, but it's a reminder of that team. Weeb Eubank is a guy who I think people have kind of forgotten as among the best coaches of all time. He won three different championships between the NFL and the pre-Super Bowl era.
15:12He coached Johnny Unitas. He coached Joe Namath. John Riggins is in this book. A truly great book about a coach at the end of his career, a player Joe Namath whose body is breaking down and is betraying him, and a team that's already kind of hit the mountaintop and is maybe on the way down, but incredibly written, incredible access for this one. Again, these are the teams, you know, the season and the life type of books. Another one a little more modern is Patriot Reign. And I've mentioned this before on the show by Michael Holley. It was about the 2002 Patriots right after they won their first championship.
15:52And Bill Belichick gave great access to Michael Holley, who is still in the Boston media there. And he has some great scenes inside meeting rooms, some real tough talk about Patriots players by the Patriots coaches that got into this book. He continues it on to get a better ending into 2003 so that they win the Super Bowl at the end of that year, but it's really mostly about the 2002 Patriots, a lot of good Brady Bledsoe stuff, and again, great access in terms of Belichick wanting and accepting a guy being in all their team meetings throughout the season. So for all the people that say Belichick is stingy with access, he's done it a few times for books.
16:35And then the final one in this category, I don't think it's as good a book as the rest of them, but it's called Next Man Up about the 2004 Ravens by the late John Feinstein, who's a great writer. Maybe not as tight and great as some of these other books, but it's got Ray Lewis. It's got Jabal Lewis. It's got Billick. It's got all these Hall of Famers. It's a little more modern, and it is fun going through this season with the Baltimore Ravens. So I would recommend that one as well. All right, the next category I am going to call Adventures in Training Camp. And again, I'm doing these roughly in the order of how great they are.
17:13And this is probably the last section where they're all stone cold classics. Paper Lion by George Plimpton was for a long time one of the most famous, most popular, most sold sports books ever written. I feel like it's probably not known as much. I couldn't find my copy. I don't know where it is. So I'm holding up, if you're watching on YouTube, the sequel to it, which was called Mad Ducks and Bears, which is just more football talk by George Plimpton. But the premise is simple. It's this stuffy, highly educated, political talk show-appearing writer, George Plimpton, very literary, too. who pitched going to training camp as a player with the 1963 Lions, and they let him be a player.
18:06It was eventually turned into a movie. He started doing it in other sports, but Paper Lion is the original. The culmination is he gets, they won't put him in an actual scrimmage or an actual preseason game. That's what he wanted to do. But they do put him in a team scrimmage as like a fifth string quarterback, and that's kind of the culmination of the book. but him just hanging out with all these great pros at just a different time. You see how different the game is. Dick LeBeau is a terrific character in this book. I believe Matt Millen is too. Dick LeBeau is like a long-haired guitar-playing heartthrob in this book, which is hilarious.
18:46And similar to this book, Paper Lion is the one I'm talking about, although his sequel is pretty good too, not as good, is a book called A Few Seconds of Panic, which should have become a modern classic. It's by Stefan Fatsis, who was a Wall Street Journal writer who convinced Mike Shanahan to let him do what George Plimpton did, except at kicker. So it is a training camp where Fatsis gets to be a kicker for the 2008 Broncos. Jake Plummer is here. I believe Champ Bailey is here off the top of my head. And they let him, you know, do some kicking like in the inter-team scrimmage. and it's a great inside look at more of a modern NFL team, but also really hilarious.
19:29Nate Jackson was one of the characters as a bottom of the roster type of guy, and he ended up writing a book called Slow Getting Up, which was a fun from the perspective of a player book if you were looking into that. All right, we're continuing on to a category that I'm going to call the best book to buy as an investment. I'm holding up a book called Finding the Winning Edge by Bill Walsh. When I bought this, and it's basically how to build a football program for other coaches. It's not the most readable thing in the world, but there are a lot of interesting insights into how Bill Walsh ran a team and a lot of good examples from his career.
20:12But it gives you an idea of why every coach had this book. It's on Bill Belichick's bookshelf. Every coach owns it. And I bought it for maybe like 100, 150 bucks 15 years ago because it was hard to find. And now I see it going on Amazon, minimum 350 to 400. A lot of people are selling this thing for like 1 ,000 bucks. So this is worth a lot, Finding the Winning Edge. That's pretty cool. Just more of like a brag than like an amazing book, but it is an interesting document. Let's do biographies. Not my favorite genre. So I just chose the best of the best. When Pride Still Mattered, which is about Vince Lombardi, it's by David Moranis, won a ton of awards.
20:55The title is supposed to be sarcastic in a way, but people totally missed that point. It really punctures the myth of Vince Lombardi while also showing what an incredible coach and man he is. And that to me is the best type of biography. It just makes him a human. He was just a dude. But it makes you appreciate what he overcame to become Vince Lombardi and the demons that he dealt with throughout his career. And it's really great if you want to go to school. There's a lot of literature on the old Packers, but When Pride Still Mattered. Probably my number one biography by a decent amount. Education of a Coach is a book about Belichick and how he became Bill Belichick by David Halberstam, who is one of the best nonfiction writers of his generation.
21:43He wrote The Best and the Brightest about the JFK crew that got us into the Vietnam War. And then this is him focusing on how Bill Belichick became Bill Belichick, largely through his father. And it's a really intelligent and quick look at Belichick. It's really good. And the other one that stood out to me was the Namath book by Mark Kriegel. Really good about Joe Namath, former NFL Network employee, Mark Kriegel, who I see bouncing around Santa Monica every once in a while. I never say hi, though. We didn't really know each other. If you are into biographies, though, I know a lot of people are.
22:17The Johnny Yu bio is pretty good. Tom Callahan, not the same level of the ones I talked about. And The Genius, which is by David Harris about Bill Walsh, is great. Although it made Bill Walsh seem kind of miserable, which bummed me out. But that's how a lot of these guys are. Let's go to more history books. Chris Wesseling really loved the history books. And I can't say I major in those as much, but I've definitely read enough. The Real All-Americans by Sally Jenkins stands out because it's a story that I just would have never heard of in my life and is really significant. How in the early 20th century, around 1912, a team of all natives, Native Americans, led by Jim Thorpe, it was coached by Pop Warner, defeated the Naval Academy, defeated a bunch of Ivy League teams, went on this long undefeated streak.
23:09And you can imagine all the things that they overcame to do that. And it's really the story of a sport just starting and an incredible overcoming of everything stacked against these Native Americans in life. And they're able to essentially become champions on the field in a way that the society at the time were not going to allow them to become in life. Some other good history books. I mentioned all the Packers before. Instant Replay by Jerry Kramer is a good one. This was a sensation when it was released. It's also with Dick Schaap, who was on ESPN a long time. This is like a number one bestseller.
23:52It is really fun, well-written. It was an inside look at the Vince Lombardi Packers. So it's more of a history of the Packers than a biography, and it's really good. If you were ever into the Bill James abstracts back in the day, I think the closest thing football has to it is the Pro Football Chronicles, which is by Dan Daly and Bob O'Donnell, I believe. And it's just a quick history going through in different arguments and sections and stats. I learned a lot from that book, but it's also very entertaining to read. And a more modern book I would throw in this category is Why We Love Football.
24:27It's by Joe Posnanski. It's 100 different moments. It's really quick. It's great for kids. My son loved it, but I think it's great for adults, too, because Posnansky is a great writer. So you basically just get four pages with extra reporting and some insight into, let's say, the Russell Wilson, Malcolm Butler play. And he goes through 100 moments that kind of defined football as we know it. It's modern. It's older ones. It's great. Some other history books, Jeff Perlman, to me, had the definitive Cowboys book from back in the day, Boys Will Be Boys, about the glory days of the Dallas Cowboys.
25:04And then I mentioned the best game ever is that book by Mark Bowden about the championship between the Giants and the Colts back in 1958. We're getting to the end here, but I wanted some X's and O's books on my list. And I'm going to go Blood, Sweat, and Chalk by Tim Layden. kind of an inside look of how coaches build the game. And it's from the early 2010s, maybe 2012. So that's a fun one. The Art of Smart Football by Chris Brown, who had a great website. Shout out to Chris Brown. I used to keep in touch with him back in the day, but it's called The Art of Smart Football, where if you're looking really deep X's and O's, it's some fun insight.
25:49I don't know if you can still find this book or not, but I liked it a lot. The Bob McGinn Super Bowl book called The Ultimate Super Bowl Book deserved to be a classic. It wasn't released on like a major, major publisher, and yet it goes through every Super Bowl. If you can imagine a deeply reported, highly X's and O's game story that you would spend a month on writing and then would come out a month later, it's got one of those breakdowns for literally every Super Bowl. If you really want to find why each team won each Super Bowl with insights from the players and the coaches, it's Bob McGinn's Super Bowl book.
26:28It is really good. And yeah, while we're getting crazy X's and O's, I mentioned Bill Belichick and his dad earlier. I actually bought the book Football Scouting Methods by Steve Belichick, which is more of a historical document than it is, you know, as modern. But it's literally the book a lot of people bought, I think, when they wanted to get into scouting and learning how to scout. And I found it helpful, too, of just charting different things like that. I didn't want to leave here without mentioning at least a few fiction books. I got North Dallas 40 by Peter Gent, which is like a loosely fictionalized story of the Roger Staubach cowboys.
27:06It cranks it up. They made a couple great movies about it, but that's a fun one. Billy Lynn's Long Halftime Walk by Ben Fountain, probably the best modern novel about just the mix of commercialism and football that really has this country in a chokehold, as I mentioned earlier, for decades. It's set at halftime during a Thanksgiving game. It includes a Jerry Jones-like figure, and it's about a veteran who comes back and he's honored at halftime. And it's called The Long Halftime Walk. A lot of the thoughts that go with this, like what am I doing here? It's about America. It's about more than football, but it's very much about football.
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27:49And then I had to mention A Fan's Notes, which I know was Chris Wesseling's absolute favorite football book, certainly favorite football novel. I like it a lot too by Frederick Exley. It's maybe the best book about what it's like in terms of a fictional representation of being a completely addicted, obsessed fan. There should be more books like this, but it's a great book about what it means and why we are so obsessed and how it can almost take over your life. The last few books, I couldn't really fit into any category, so I'm just going to call them oddities. All the Madden books are great. His first book is, Hey, I wrote a book.
28:33I got it. Out of the library, just to make sure, like it is like hanging out with John Madden. He's an underrated writer. He's with Dave Anderson from the New York Times. So he smooths everything out. I'm holding up a book called All Madden. He has five or six books. There's a lot of great insight in these books. I would recommend them. There's an analytics book called The Hidden Game of Football by Bob Carroll, Pete Palmer, and John Thorne, which is really old and gets deep into the numbers in a way that you just wouldn't have thought was possible 20, 30 years ago. It's somewhere around here, but my stacks have finally let me down.
29:08I can't find it. God's Coach by Skip Bayless is an outrageous book that I can't believe exists. And I know it's Skip Bayless. The subtitle is called The Hymns, Hype, and Hypocrisy of Tom Landry's Cowboys. And it destroys Tom Landry. But it does it in a way with a lot of inside stories that, you know, you got to read it all with a little bit of grain of salt. I know it's Skip Bayless, but I found it fascinating. There's some people who come out of this book not looking great at all. And there's a lot of negative stuff about the Tom Landry Cowboys, about, you know, how they presented themselves as greater than the rest and that what was going on behind the scenes was very often dark.
29:50And Skip Bayless gets into that in a major way, just absolutely destroys Tom Landry. I can't believe this book exists. A few books that I wanted to include just because their covers are badass and the writing is very often badass. Out of Their League by Dave Megacy. I mentioned the 70s are just a crazy time and this became a very famous book about the types of pills and everything that football players had to go through, how much they were taken advantage of, especially back in the 70s and weren't being paid very well. On the front cover. It even says the roughest sports book ever written. But just they don't they don't make books like out of their league by Dave Megacy anymore.
30:32Some other just like fun covers run to daylight, which is Vince Lombardi's book, which is also a pretty good book. I would recommend it just a classic cover one by Jack Tatum, who became famous, unfortunately, you know, for paralyzing Patriots receiver Daryl Stingley had a book called They Call Me Assassin. And interesting complicated career, Jack Tatum, and became very famous for that play. But I would recommend this one as well. And I don't even know if I ever read the Dick Butkus book, Stop Action. But if you're watching on YouTube, tell me this isn't a badass cover. It is an incredible cover.
31:09Some of these old 70s covers I just had to get just because they look cool. So I mentioned some Wes favorites, but I had to be real. And there were a few that I haven't read that he absolutely loved. Fans Notes by Frederick Exley. I mentioned that one. I love it. But The League by David Harris is a little like the Michael McCambridge book that I talked about earlier, like a full history of the NFL, but a little darker, a little more no holds barred, the type of book maybe the NFL wouldn't want you to read. He really loves that book. I've been meaning to read it forever. And then he loves the history of the John Madden Raiders called Badasses.
31:50So I have this on my list by Peter Richmond. I want to get to this book eventually. And that's the great thing about reading and books and even football books, which there aren't as many great ones coming out now. I don't feel as there used to be, but I try to get to them all. I've read so much football and I live so much football. I have to admit now in the off seasons when I'm reading more, I need an escape and I I haven't been keeping up as well in recent years. I'm more of a fiction guy. But going through some of these books for this exercise made me want to reread some of them, made me want to go and find some of the books I haven't read over the years.
32:28So if you have any suggestions for me that I didn't get to that you think I should have mentioned, and there are a lot of very good football books I didn't get to that I have read, of course, hit me up. You know, let me know that you read this. Pick up one of these books. and if you like it, let me know that you read it. I tried to be as exhaustive as possible. Eric is probably thinking, yeah, I think you mentioned enough books here. I didn't want to be involved in this, but I'm sitting here on this side of my computer laughing. Like for those who are, if you're listening to this, it was almost felt like an SNL bit, like reaching around the camera.
33:06I kind of want you to send me a picture of your stacks at the end of this so I can put picture in picture because it felt like a bit that you were reaching over We're reaching under, like at one point right now, the books are coming into the screen. At one point, they're coming into the other side of the screen. It felt like a bit, honestly, like you just kept pulling for more and more. I set them up in a semicircle in order so that I could pull them up. And frankly, I feel bad. I mean, there's more. Here's Peter King, Inside the Helmet. Great book. It felt like I had to make some decisions at some point.
33:36I was involved in about as little of this planning for this show as I have ever been in NFL Daily. I was like, oh, he's going to give us 10, you know, a little synopsis here and there. no off the dome you're just giving us like i i should have kept count i i should have kept count and i feel bad i let you down because this would have been i know you like numbers well here 32 nugs i did it this was crazy this was nuts to watch here's why i did it because i could do an an episode entirely on one or two of these each one of these books almost but i wanted to have one spot the definitive list these are the greatest football bucks of all time and so So if someone wants to come back and ask me four years from now, I can send them this link.
34:15And it'll always be there where I feel like this is an exhaustive list. But of course, we're going to find some more. And I hope you get to at least one of these. And I did try to roughly order it from top to bottom. Although even some of the books at the end are some of my favorites. Thank you, Eric, for listening and bearing with me today. It's summertime. I really did enjoy this. This was like some honestly watching you do this off the dome. It was you. It seemed like you enjoyed just kind of rattling off. Like it looked like you had a lot of fun doing this. I don't know what it says that one of my favorite podcasts I ever did was just me talking for 30 minutes straight.
34:52I didn't have a co-host. We had ideas for co-hosts. It didn't work out. And then I realized, who am I kidding? I want to get to all these books myself. And so I hope a lot of people can enjoy that this summer. Obviously, we're in our summer programming season here. It is July 4th week. Enjoy your reading. Enjoy your books. And yeah, enjoy our quarterbacks ranking episode. We've been saving this one. It is coming up later this week. That is going to be myself and John Ledyard. That will take you into the July 4th weekend. In the meantime, I'm not going to say this is homework, but try to read one of them.
35:29Let me know if you liked it. Even Eric, I want you to read one of them too.
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